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Ep063 Making foam core sheets - Life On The Hulls Building a Catamaran
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 เม.ย. 2019
- This week I get into making foam core sheets to be used as robe partitions and internal walls of the Catamaran. My Resin Gel coat machine gets a tear down and rebuild and we make our annual pilgrimage to the One Day International Cricket Match at the Sydney Cricket Ground with Sam.Gotta love cricket.Have fun, Rossco
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For the love of cricket, I know those in North America will struggle to understand our love of this game, but it really is entrenched in us and the best day's entertainment. It is a family tradition to travel to a Match every year with my son Sam and now deceased Dad, and has become a family and friends day out that I would not miss for a million bucks.A huge thank you to our good friend Marea for taking us into the members stand for the day, it was a welcome relief after many days of being locked in a bunny suit and respirator, and to sink a few coldies with your son is priceless. Cheers Guys Rossco.
We do have cricket pitches in North America, but your video is the first time I have actually seen a cricket stadium.
It's not the Cricket, it's the false title! I don't object to maintenance, cricket, or much really(except libtards, can't stand 'em), but if you want to video your maintenance, make the video about maintenance! If you want to video your day at the "pitch", make the video about your "day at the pitch"! I wanted to see the process of making foam panels! You gave me LESS THAN 6 MINUTES IN A 20 MINUTE VIDEO! Not cool!
@@QImpact We do? Where?
@@austntexan Here is one I used to pass on a regular basis: N 43.9542 W 79.5074 . It is dedicated to cricket, I know there are a lot of clubs/associations around although some of them share facilities with soccer and/or baseball.
Not too many people would attempt a project like this one solo.
It'll be worth a huge pat on the back when it's all said and done.
Thanks for the video.
Not sure I would either if I really knew what I was getting into.Thanks Duncan.
I love watching resin dry Ross best way to spend a sunday in my opinion
the hulls are coming together rapid now mate even when you are striping equipment down for maintenance or repair you still keep chipper and smile
Good on ya Davey, appreciate you watching my resin dry. Rossco
No struggle for the love of Cricket. Family, baseball and cold beer is understood here. Understanding the game of Cricket, now that will take a bit of explaining.
It is certainly a complicated game but so si good.Lots of pfaffing about,doing pretty much nothing..Cheers
Nothing like some house cleaning to get a good muck restarted !..
Lovin my clean workshop,feels counter productive whilst cleaning up,but I am certain I am more productive afterwards.Cheers Ross
Looks like fun was had by all! I am sure you needed a break from the hulls, great to be with family and friends! Thanks for sharing your game day! Cheers 😀
I have to include some of this stuff in the build to put it all into context. It's not all work here on the Mold ahh Hulls
Loved the cricket at the end, great video mate.
Love my cricket buddy, cheers.
loving the series.
Thanks buddy, you are a champion. Cheers Ross
I don't think I will ever understand the game of cricket if that's how you spell it and it's fun to watch
Love cricket.
Thanks for sharing a bit of Aussie life at the end. Nice to see sunshine and outside activities. We're still waiting our turn to go outside up here in Niagara. It's a balmy 3 degrees Celsius with rain and overcast. I'll be doing inside tasks on my boat with the heater on.
I am feeling for you,this has been equally brutal for you guys this year as we have had insane heat,I believe you have had crazy cold, stay warm buddy.Ross
In North Carolina a cricket is a bug. I was waiting to hear the cricket at the end. LMAO
That is brilliant Charlene.Cheers from Aus.
Hi Ross What a pick of a job Cleaning the mechanism for spraying? Interesting. ❤ it North Queensland
Absolutely, feels such a waste of time Andrew, but it makes a massive difference in the performance.Cheers buddy , Ross
Great work mate, and love the Cricket 👍🏻🏴
thanks buddy, cricket makes summer here.
Brilliant mate as always Grimsby 🇬🇧
Thanks Rooney.Appreciate you keeping in touch.Cheers Ross
I'd say good for you on the diversions from the heat. Keep the plan even if it don't mesh with time, that's just a skip and a hop. As always looking good Ross, enjoy the Game with all those good people in your life, stay safe !!
Cheers Barton,love my cricket and my family,do not like the heat this summer just gone.All the best buddy.Cheers
Cricket to yall is like baseball to us here. It is something that unites, and gives breaks to you. Its funny how the company that made your machine can charge 10 for a simple part like that, but the air actuators is 1/5 of the cost. Keep up the great work, and enjoy all the days you can with family and friends.
Thanks Nathan, love our cricket and totally understand the love of baseball. My son and I love the cricket day out and it has become a very special day for us. Cheers Ross
Great video and a well-balanced lifestyle. Looks great to me.
I am a very lucky man Gene,I am blessed with a beautiful family and life.Thanks for watching the series.
Tahnk you Mate!
Love your shows man. Your a maniac! Thanks for sharing knowledge.
Good onya Ryan ,really appreciate you comment mate.Ross
You should just use some kind of acordeón shaped rubber boot like what you'd find on power steering ends on those actuator shafts
Life is good
Great fun summer, always something fun going on, albeit the heat this year was a bit overwhelming, I can stop whinging about it now, cooling off now. Ross
some serius clening there Ross, nice size workshop you got there, min´s only 3x5 meter.
All the best
Martin
I would love to go to Australia seams like a great country yes cricket is different for us here in the USA but it's your national pastime and that's great we watch baseball I'm sure you know I come from the most corrupt city in the USA and that is Chicago we have the Cubs and they win the world series once a century. I admire your work ethic keep up the great work I enjoy every minute of your episodes it's a hundred times better to watch than the junk Hollywood puts out thanks again for everything
Gidday Kevin,thanks for you kind words buddy.Love a game of baseball,saw a game years ago in SanFrancisco and loved it.The cricket is a sensational day out and is our real tradition. I have traveled through Chicago and that is one huge place. Thanks for watching my series and appreciate you following along.Ross
18:40 -Lol the guy behind trying to pick a winner out of his nose
Classic, I had never noticed that.
Great to see the progress, just been down your way for 4 perfect days but I was sitting under a tree at Orion beach reading a book, drove past but looked you were locked up. Making me keen to get back into my cat & shed. Checked out the guys working on the Crest too - having a great time there as well. All the best from Jeff.
Bugger Jeff.I am up in Byron at bluesfest this week.Sorry to miss you.Have been going 7 days for the last month.Safe trip home.Ross
Steady progress on the boat. Looking forward to getting the ashes back this summer, it was only on loan! Would love to go to the Sydney ground it looks awesome.
You have no chance Steve.SCG is a beautiful ground and a friend took us to the members for the day.Unrivalled experience.Maybe see you there on day.Cheers Rossco
Great stuff ! Loved the cricket . Keep up the good work on the cat.
Awesome work Rossco - never realised how easy it was to build your own boat (lol).
Cheers mate.Piece of cake,hah
One more big module? You're motoring through it now, Ross. Being a Kiwi living in the UK, I haven't been following the Oz-India series, but a quick Google tells me that it's pretty even-Stevens. But it's the game that counts, not who wins? Er ... Ross? Sorry, thought I'd lost you there for a minute. :)
Hah, I reckon Australia needs to up their game, we are sadly lacking in experience. All the best Ross
Amazing after every video I get an Australian accent for a good five minutes keep up the good work buddy
Love ya Cliff, so great to catch up with you in LA,You'll be spruking Aussie slang very soon my friend by the time I finish my boat.All the best buddy,Janet and Ross
You are a machine man. Best d**m mass laminator on the tube. It's satisfying for us too to see those partitions going into place. Not sure what I'm going to do with my Sunday morning coffee when you get this boat done. You may have to start another one... ;-)
Mate. I respected you til I saw you in the member’s! Was a good summer. He says. From the Brewongle.
Tough life .we have as lovely friend Marea who took us in ,so I am usually in the Victor Trumper Stand or the Hill way back when causing trouble.
I’m just hoping to find techniques for making light weight foam core cabinets for me van, and here you are building an entire yacht!! 😳😳
Great stuff mate.Only way to go No squeaks ,limited options with flexible shelf heights but do worth it in a boat.Ross
Hey Ross,you could have watched my boy playing for England v Australia a few years ago.He also played in the Big Bash.
For the table tops, you could get rolls of plastic sheet (the kind they use for greenhouses are the best because it's a stout material) and install them with the roll under the bench, at the rear of the table (on the wall side). Each time you need a fresh surface, you pull and cut the old one out. In the long term, it's a neat, efficient solution, I WISH, i could say cheap too, but everyone and their mother knows that prices in Australia are ...yeah. So that's up to you to determine if it's worth the cost, but ever since i got this tip from a friend, i haven't looked back. Bonus, unlike other materials, greenhouse sheets are UV resistant, so even if the bench is in the Sun and exposed for quite some time, it won't degrade and heat doesn't bother it as much (doesn't wrinkle).
That is an interesting idea, I am currently cutting builders black plastic and it is a pain in the arse wrapping the tables, but the result is worth it. Thanks for the advice I will look into that.Ross
I am thinking, as you probably have, a rubber bellows that would fill the gap and just ride up and down over top of the oil cup, to keep debris out.
look lake fun , wish some get down under to see it
Excellent Blake.l,Cheers Buddy,Ross
Ross ,simple fix for the dust cover the module with plastic ,you can see thru it & saves you heaps of work in the long run ??
Love the hulls build
Funny you should day that.I have made a plastic cover to do exactly that.Grrar observations Mr Bond.Cheers
Ross, have you considered finding or creating a rubber boot that fits on the shaft over the oil reservoir to minimize the dust collecting in the oil reservoir? Perhaps this will extend the service life of the seals and will allow you a more predictable maintenance schedule the suits your time rather than it dictating when service has to be done. Best, Shawn
Hey Shawn,I have made a plastic cover to keep excess material out,but someone has suggested a cv joint type bellow which i reckon has merit.I believe there is also a chemical reaction that is happening as well,so Maintenance as you said needs to be regular and routine to keep it running smoothly.Thanks buddy,appreciate your interest.Rossco
Mate if I could give you 10 likes I would, for showing the cricket, & how did you get into the members stand, that was my favorite place years ago to watch both the cricket & the Swan's, keep up the good work.
Cheers
Swany on the Darling Down QLD OZ.
Good on ya Paul,appreciate you watching my series,all the best Ross
Love the video and seeing the work being done!!! My only critique is the intro could be shortened
Your right being from the U.S. I don't understand the game, But It's more about family and friends and good times.
While watching your video a thought came up, The panels your making if they were sanded smooth could you put a wood laminate on them like for a bulkhead?
Definitely one could laminate a veneer onto these sheets.The peel ply finish would allow for a perfect veneer adhesion,and one of the reasons why I use peel ply is to do exactly that.my bulkheads and panel templates will come out again latwer when doing the interior trim.Cheers Ross
Great video. I've been looking everywhere to see vids on using foam core as you did. Is that a special marine foam or is it similar to what's in the big box stores? Difficult finding suppliers for it. Thanks for the information. Cheers!
Boat building I understand, but Cricket....... forever lost on how it's played. However I see it's a International game. Beautiful Cricket Park. Now back to our regularly schedule game, please.
Good point,it is a bizarre game but we all love it here. Plenty of boat building to come ,I promise. Cheers Ross
Try a rubber bellows over the shaft and seal to keep the dust out. Kinda like on cv joint on cars
I have since made a plastic cover that keeps the dust out but a cv joint sleeve is a great idea
Cheers Ross
What foam and resin do you use? Looks like polystyrene but I'm told that you can't use polyester or vinly ester resin on PE foam.
Hi Ross your right about us in N.A. cricket is like watching paint dry. But I can assure you with you by the side with a few cold ones I'm sure i could love it in no time .
Besides it's about family and friends
Fairwinds from the @captains.chair
Mate
Cara, ainda vou fazer que nem esse cara, vou construir meu proprio barco. Tenho aprendido muito com ele. Boston
Obrigado Boston, estou feliz em ver que você está aproveitando bastante nosso canal. Muito obrigado por assistir.Ross
Always a nice start to my Sunday morning to see what's up Down Under. More great progress. Did you say there is a bunch of resin on the floor and the holes in the floor are where old resin has come up? Great cricket game, errr match? Dunno. It's all a bunch of guys running around in circles after whacking at a baseball with weird looking sticks, to me. :-)
Cricket is all about faffing about doing not much really and that is the beauty of the game, plenty of time to chat, plenty of time to drink and take in the atmosphere that is watching, well not a lot of action. Floor is concrete, and resin is what has dropped over the years. Quite an artwork that floor , perhaps I could sell it as a resin wall art. Rossco
Ross with your experience you could of shown the Aussies a thing or two about sanding! #sandpapergate
I’m all caught up as I’ve seen you making tge poo tank. When are you striking the cat fromtge mould? I think post tabbing? very exciting, film it all for us
Hey Ross - your videos are 25 degrees centigrade behind.👍😂
Keeping junk out of those seals sounds like a job for a felt wiper packed in that recess.
Awesome. You whach the IPL at all? Looking forward to the world cup. The games between SA and Aus will always be tough.
Justin,sadly not enough time in the day for me to watch IPL and after after our boys let us all down 2 years ago with the tampering incident they are lucky to be playing at all.SA is a brutal team,love my cricket.Ross
so how much cheaper is making your own panels compared to buying them ready made, after factoring in the equipment ? I like your blog/diary/lifestyle type videos !
Gidday Trevor,I sm making sheets double sided for approx 1/5 of the actual retail.Add that labour and equipment,i suggest buying them.As I have the machines a nd substrates it makes no sense to buy them pre-made.Typically sheets would be balsa end grain with 1 layer of 600db.Mine are h80 foam/300csm/600db so far more subststial and rot proof.Cheers Rosd
@@LifeOnTheHulls I see thanks for all the helpful videos, cheers mate
Can you not run a cleaning solution through once you know you won’t be using the pump for more than a couple days? Seems like it could save you a good bit of time, that is if it’s even possible
Good episode Ross
Thanks for the name change episode too. Speaking of names, do you have one for her yet?
Really Cool!!! Enjoyed watching you make these. I am wanting to make a Foam Board fiberglass Truck Camper.
Question for you because of your expertise. Do you texturize the foam in any way before applying the first coat of epoxy? I have read that they will delaminate if you don't but watching you do it looks like you don't.. Also what Fiberglass weight are you using and what epoxy?
Always good when we beat Kholis mob
For sure Pete.
I've noticed that so far you seem to be using foam core and not looking at any of the honeycomb panels for structural elements. I am wondering what has driven that choice. Is money the primary reason, or are there some technical advantages to the foam core or it is more compatible with the other material choices you have made or the manufacturing process.
b.t.w. I haven't accepted your channel name change yet, I am waiting for the major milestone of removing the hull from the mold first. I don't see a lot of examples of that step out there for catamarans. I keep wondering how much weight and stiffness you will add to the hull before as I would think that will make it harder. I can only imagine how difficult it will be in a big shipyard with all their fancy equipment; in your little operation that seems like it will be daunting.
Can't you put a plastic shield over that oil to prevent dust from getting ii there?
Dumb question, but is there any kind of filter to help with the gummy resin, or is it just buildup over time?
There is a strainer on the intake, but saturated resins will always have some buildup as the thixotrope drops put of solution. That combined with the dust and oil residue ultimately only way to avpoid it is to acetone flush every day which would be too harsh for the entire system.Hoses and orings would likely suffer.All the best Rossco
In the middle of researching how I should go about building the structural cabin of a 4x4 expedition vehicle, fallen across this video and I have a couple of questions.
How do you best attach the internal panel dividing walls to the main structure? Is it just more epoxy on the panel ends and "stick em" together or do you layer glass round the corner from one panel to the other. I see issues with trying to get a flat surface if I do it the latter
Also another YTuber who has already built one has used honeycomb panels as he discovered the glass /foam panels delaminated too easily when he tried to attach things to them.
On one hand it sounds easier to use honeycomb but on the other I am going to need more insulation than that surely? I can't see honeycomb having anywhere near the R value / K value of foam panel.
Also do you vacuum bag glass to better distribute the resin in the foam core.. I don't know where best to start.
I'm planning a camper as well. I want foam for insulation. They build hulls like this so delam shouldn't happen. Any progress?
Hi Ross I'm not sure if you have discussed this previously but why not vacuum infusion for making the sheets and other components. Do you feel that the spray pump controls the amount of rising applied as well as vacuum?
Graeme,the qty I am doing here would take 5 times longer,and cost 3 times more in set up and consumables .furthermore a a 1 man show and the fact that our cat is already aimed at a 1500kg reduction in weight from original production boat, fell it would not be worth the added drama and possibility of failures.That said I vacuum infuse parts and in many cases they are justified. In thus case I believe there would be about a 10 percent weight saving and using a professional machine such as I have definitely improves the wet layup process as you tend to spray only what's needed (user inititated)rather than pouring resin and squeezing off excesses.U have done some rudimentary testing of my sheets and there is minimal excess and certainly outstanding rigidity and stiffness.All the best.Ross
Thanks Ross it's looking awesome, mate!
Over the years? Didn't you just get that little machine? We saw in another video you trying to get it up and running, but couldn't. Is this a different machine?
This is my big machine,it is incredible really jusee t needs love and care.Cheers Ross
Ross are you doing Twilights down the spit
What do you mean twilights, paddles???
@@LifeOnTheHulls werent you sailing up here on your mates boat
@@jeffkeating8994 I see, we were doing the Seawind Club Races on the harbour last 4 weeks till daylight savings ended. All done now and missing the brilliant nights out on the harbour already. Cheers Jeff
The correlation of hard work and coldies is being lost in the US. They have their beer and devil lettuce. Just missing the hard physical work part. I have a 2 sons, there is one I like drinking beer with and the other i'd like to use one of those cricket crusher mauls on.. But I love them both with all my heart.
You should break down your pump cylinder after each job- not when it gets faulty. Which is what he's doing but not saying. Its doesn't take a day, do inside 2 hrs easy.
I complete a breakdown and rebuild after each module but in my case machine sits idle for months unlike a full time shop so there is a resultant effect of latency that invariably shows up on start up .Full tear down snd rebuild includung gun can take up to a day to ensure machine is perfect and spring pressure seals are clean and fubctioinal.Cheers and thanks for watching
Yeah, I suppose you can't turn back now.....best of luck as always.
No turning back.
Awesome work mate, i need to make some sheets soon, what density are they?
That game was quite a while ago are all your vids 3months behind?
Keep up the good work!
Yep Webbey,3 months behind typically.Foam is 12mm H80 with 300csm 600db on each side.To attain strength of 12mm plywood you would need to step up to 300csm x 2 and 600db both sides on 20mm h80 foam.Doesn't have same compressive strength though as ply.
@@LifeOnTheHulls yeah cool think i will use the 100density gurit, im keeping everything on my boat above floor level foam core to keep Centre of Gravity low!
Gunwales might have an extra layer of bi-axial for rod holder strength.
Love your work mate!
Ross, would it help the piston tower of limiting contaminants by wrapping a sheet of clear poly around it? Or is this just a chemical buildup issue?
Bob,
I have made a plastic cover and I do believe it is a combination of chemicals , oil, and dust so lets see how it goes. Cheers Ross
popping out of the mold soon or did i miss it?
You haven't missed put,lots more to do and double storage of mould and boat not economical till I am close with the deck made.Ross
45c is hot man. I'd be in the water somewhere.
Thank God its all over now ,autumn is here and I am lovin it.Ross
why so many air bubbles in the flat sheet?
No air bubbles,shweets are near perfect.I don't bother wetting out peel ply,so pwerhaps that's what you have seen.Cheers Ross
Australia vs India? Doesn't South Africa usually beat both of you?
Usually.
Come on Ross nothing connected to a boat casts $2
So true Pete.I have acquired some parts for my gun system for 50cents each though by shopping around on ebay.Cheers Buddy.
Funny thing. My coin doesn't look like the one at the end of the video. Do yo have a new coin coming out?
Daniel,you are an absolute legend for supporting me and I class you guys as original supporters and appreciate it so much. I can't see another coin as Seeker has good stocks of the old one and the new emblem is more of a logo that I fashioned to move forward.Cheers Daniel,Ross
@@LifeOnTheHulls No problem Ross. I like the coin I have just fine. Very little effort on my part. But like the old woman said when she pissed in the ocean, every little bit helps. I hope it helps.
You must spend a lot of time replying to all of this and then you have to work on the boat. Wears me out just thinking about it. You are awesome in my books. Not many people would have the fortitude to complete a project like this. I think you will. My hat is off to you.
By the way, I would love to see more about your kayak business in future videos. Maybe a tour or something like that, or some pictures of your kayaks.
Thanks Ross for all you share,
Daniel
Did they ever figure out who won?
Aussies won buddy about the only game we won all season .Cheers Rossco
Are you using 1708
1708 fiberglass
Hey Charlene.All cloth is rated by weight here in Aus and the products are not known by code names. Product is likely 1200g db with 300csm incirporated or otherwise kniwn as combi mat or knytex.
Ross have you looked into getting say a motorcycle shocker seal fitted to the shaft to reduce the dust and therefore the frequency of maintenance ?
Even a dust shroud ( plastic bag ? ) around the framework would help.
That young man needs to be instructed in manners ........ serving you and leaving "the boss" to serve herself is not right.
Cheers Eric
Eric,I have since made a plastic cover shroud that sits over the shaft and reduces dust etc,shaped like a donut.Sammo got caught in this video,he is actyually in real life the most Considerate bloke on earth especially when it comes to his mum and his sister,and anyone to be honest. All the best. Ross
A master at his craft - can you pls send me 1kg of your special "good mood in unneeded bad situations". Your father is remembered. Best wishes from the other side.
Thanks Karle, my father really was a great fella. It's only now you realise how important these people are in your life, his influences and mentoring shaped just about everything I do.He had a passion for video as well and watching home movies now I realise that I am him and that probably isn't a bad thing. I really am a cranky bugger off screen but i have a lot of fun at work. Ross
@@LifeOnTheHulls Keep that feeling - your father is you whenever you think about him - he can feel your fears, pleasure and pride. Karl
Cricket - The US will NEVER understand it !
I am almost surprised that 1220mm x 2440mm (𝑜𝑟 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 "𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑟𝑑" 𝑠𝑖𝑧𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑓𝑜𝑎𝑚 𝑖𝑠) sheets of 'glass covered foam are not available directly from suppliers, although you would have to pay for the labor and you would want them to use your own "custom" laminating schedule.
They are available in certain layups,certainly not the schedule I am working to. Most commercially available sheets are suited to ultra light performance or kit craft.The longevity of which is still debatable although you can always bung s few more layers on at the build end,which defeats the object in the first place.How many yachts I see with massive dents from bumps and knock from wharves other boats etc says to me that yep there light and no ,they are simply not strong enough.Cost is about 8 times more per sheet.Cheers Ross
Damn...missed 666 again!!
First! Lol 😂
Good on ya Mick. You legend. Cheers Buddy.
you lost me at fkn cricket lol,keep up the awsome work.
I get it but we love our cricket.Cheers
You could have faked a moon landing on that floor it was so cratered. :)
Absolute shocker eh, heavy drums of concrete are the base of my stands and they destroyed the floor. The new floor is like a NASA clean room, for now. Cheers Ross
@@LifeOnTheHulls You do look like a space man in that 3M suit. :)
Whats a Muslim doing serving alcohol mate
And who was cheatting in this game.
Probably the Aussies, but thats cricket.
when you going to start saying something useful dude?