Why you should stop working so hard.
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You can grind. But do it FOR YOU. If you are going to put in 12 hours, be damn sure it benefits your mission.
Exactly, the workplace is a marathon NOT a sprint.
I grew being taught by my father that I have to work fast and work hard. then I will get a better raise and praise. Later in life I learned my co workers got paid more than me plus they slack off expecting me to take care of their work when I got there. Lesson learned.
@@josepholague925 Same here. I was like that. I've worked my ass off for every job. This does nothing. Like he said, it shows that you have little self respect. Back off, take it easy. Go 20% about 80% of the time.
So just work enough to not get fired like Office Space.
More specific: use your workplace to upgrade yourself. if they ask you to do something that has no benefit for your skill improvement you better leave them.
The reward for good work...
is more work.
And more profits for them and not you
This is why I like jobs that just kind of require you to be there "just in case." Like a help desk operator or security guard. I've been at those jobs that require certain sales etc. Then when you hit the quota, you aren't really rewarded. You are just given more to do.
My boss makes a dollar
I make a dime
That's why I poop
On company time
LOL
@@AlexVasiluta Kek
''Givers have to set limits because takers never do.'''
I like that. It makes sense.
Now consider how democracy works.
Aline is my wife from another life.😍
PREACH!
That should be on a T-shirt.
This is so damn true!
I have a saying. "The reward for work is more work." That is literally how the corporate world works. They don't necessarily pay you more, but they'll definitely give you more work.
Yp - get as much as they can from you ….
That's why I always time my task to finish roughly at the same time as everyone else. Before I'd get things done efficiently and just be given more work or told to help other people out for no more compensation
Then force CEOs to work for minimum wage and force feed that ideology down their throats.
Work on commission
Yep,
Overproducing is dangerous. Not only because you wont be compensated, but because you will raise the standards for yourself and others
💯💯
Mostly for you
Work hard, but never sacrifice your health. *_Health_* is the one thing that will be with you FOREVER
True! I know lots of people who work crazy long hours and their health is shot. They are either overweight or stressed out which can lead to health issues.
Made that mistake, recovering from it now. Don't do it folks, nothing is worth it can you can't put something important on a backburner and think you can come back to it later without it being worse off.
If you mean health generally, good or bad, sure, it's with you, but probably only as long as you are alive. Maybe someday we'll live forever. In which case, you definitely shouldn't sacrifice health.
Until dead, of course.
Very good point!
This isn’t just for devs, this is advice for all working people. Don’t make it easy for them to exploit you. Labor without wages has a name and it’s called slavery.
Don't be dramatic. It's called volunteering.
@@drewmandan lol good joke
@@tonyg9921 you missed the point. People who work late for no money are CHOOSING to do so, and their selfishness and cowardice is making work worse for everyone
@@drewmandan At my previous job, the company experienced a month of heavy work load so they asked all the employees to volunteer to do overtime... and then managers went around and warned everyone they'd have to pick volunteers if too few employees volunteered... which kinda destroys the definition of the word. I now like to refer to it as "mandatory volunteering unless you want your coworkers to resent you".
@@Alpharexx I call that "being a coward". If my boss ever talked down to me like a child, I'd have a chat with him about my future employment
"Minimum wage, minimum effort."
This is always my response (dropped out and went back to high school) to every manager that hires me. "You don't pay me shit. Don't expect me to work for shit."
Min wage usually jobs that require no training. Learn a trade or leave if underpaid is all you can really do.
@Mister Guy HAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
@Mister Guy You are very naive. You can work as a software developer for minimum wage. It's not about the type of work. It's about the company. I worked at an insurance company as a fullstack developer for 6680$/year. Of course, it was in Europe. So the statement, "Minimum wage, minimum effort" is true. If you want people to value you more, value yourself more. Make people belive you are valuable more than they think. You gotta be greedy about building your reputation. That's it.
They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work
My job has a zero tolerance policy for working after hours, which I’m so thankful for. If we don’t finish work in the day, it’s ok, and we can do it the next day.
just curious what industry do you work in ?
I need this 🥲
Lol
@@mouten1889 probably Amazon 😂
@@Staymadcompapretty sure it's not Amazon
Josh is wise beyond his years.
After > 20 years in the industry, I can tell you he’s 100% correct.
Im not even in programming, but this shit hit me hard. This guy literally described me. I'm that asshole who works like mad, gets paid dirt money, and makes everyone else look bad.
@@mr.giraffe7076 atleast you are self aware enough to realize thatm and for that. Respect. 👌
Been there, done that. Now I value my time.
yup this is what real life is like. The world is full of not so nice people. Read the 48 laws of power.
@@mr.giraffe7076 I would never programm for a living but this channel has so much good advice in general so... Stay compassionate you damn nihilist! :D
Worked at a data entry job where a guy wrote a script that would read in forms and autofill everything electronically. He'd do a week's worth of work in minutes then spend the rest of his time researching and learning other stuff for himself, and every now and then click submit to submit something so management thought he was still working. He knew he couldn't move too fast or they'd catch on he was scripting or too slow so they'd notice he wasn't working on work. It was great.
Work smarter not harder.
and remember to keep the script private. do not leave it in the company's computer or have any good documentation
sometimes shit codes exist for a good reason.
Did he share his script with you?
The first time I heard a story like this is when I realized this is my dream job
If he had been really smart, he could have sold the script to the company for millions and not come in at all.
@@Michael-vf2mw And put a lot of people out of a job. Not to mention there's no guarantee they'd pay him millions
hustle culture is out of control, we need "live life and be happy" culture
Live, love, laugh
People who worship "hustle culture" are the CEOs (makes sense since it's their business), upper/middle management, and "wannabe management"/corporate simp who needs validation for their narcissism. I don't usually mind if they are doing to themselves, but the problem is that because they are in leadership positions, they try to put it on people who have boundaries and then cast their employees like lepers if they don't follow through.
Europe has a culture of work is work and life is life.
@@ray495903314 Yes, though it still depends on the company your working for. Still we have less exploitative companies than in the US
Excalty
I can’t help but work hard at every place I do.
He’s right guys, you’re quite literally rewarded with more work.
Don’t DO IT!
Correct, I do security 🚔 & burned this way in 2018. Worked hard, did over night, 🌃 , worked OT. Switched to a cushy, easy post at a new 🏭. After about 2.5mo the company cried & pled with me to go back to the other site. I asked for a few points: Fri-Sat off, higher pay, choice of going back if I wanted. Over time all these job factors fell apart. New staff took my old factory job. 🤨
You're right about that. If you do you're job well enough, you get to do other's jobs too. The manager language for that is "We wear many hats around here."
I think the worst thing is those people who jump up and volunteer to work extra hours for free, and make you look bad for not doing the same. If you want my time, you have to pay for it. I'm not a charity for your business!
Exactly. We need to stop getting mad at management and instead get mad at the coworkers who are making things worse for everyone.
@@drewmandan Do both, management is also a problem
yep. A while ago, I was an IT field-instllation-Microsoft-Type-Guy. We were fitting out a new School with servers, desktops,laptops etc.... the project was quite quickly behind, so whilst being away from home mon-fri, I was asked if I could stay a couple of weekends to catch the project up......yeah sure, but I'll warn you my weekends are worth ALOT to me, especially when I spent 4-5evenings a week in a 'holiday Inn'......so the project manager, was like, yeah, cool, how much......I already knew my answer was £350 per day, (I was salaried) the pm was genuinely insulted....and laughed.....as If I was kidding!!!! .... Yeah, ok, the project cant afford that.... unlucky, then I go home this afternoon to see my wife and my dog, see you monday.......The project was around £1million in kit, and considering Microsoft provide all School licenses sdirt cheap/free, alot of it was maybe 300-400k for kit, the rest on labour...I was not wrong.
@@ywarlock charge them a rate where you don't care... if they say yes then you get a lot of money, if they say no then you get your weekend... make it a win-win for you and not the company
Are you sure they're not just japanese
I was that guy. Got my first good job and wanted to work hard. Quickly I realized for working hard my reward was only extra work with zero compensation. Society always tell you “work hard and you will go places” but it’s not true at all.
Only applies to self-improvement and running your own business, not working for others
@@psprinny5348 yup, I had to learn that the hard way I guess. Or maybe I just needed to see it for myself
Exactly! I just quit my job for another job that pays less money. I was being taken for granted because I wore many hats and didn’t get compensated. My company was a startup! And he’s spot on about startups
Unless you work for your self and more work equals more money and time off
@Jase haha yeah! I notice the same people in multiple channels sometimes too!
"Never be good at something you don't want to do" - one of my best supervisors ever
I remember my first software engineering job in 1992. I worked until i passed out. I was so proud of myself of that job and what i was doing. I got laid off one year later.
I was born in 92. Hope you’re doing well I life.
I was born in 01 and I honestly don’t know how to land my first Tech or IT job
I went through that in the late 1990s. I worked by myself to burnout, and then we got bought out and I was laid off eventually. I wasn't aware about the frequency of acquistions and then they just layoff.
IBM or EDS by chance? I started work for EDS about that time, did the SED program came back and they started their RIFs. I lived in fear, it was going to be me for years.
lol
We have a saying here in Germany. "Stell dich dumm, brachste nicht arbeiten." Pretend to be dumb, save yourself work.
"come at 9 and leave at 5"
The Japanese office staff: *sweat furiously*
@@DavidSharpMSc such is life in a country of fax machines and 100 layers of bureaucracy. Germany is the second worst with 10 layers
Japanese are like Work Hard! No Pay!!!
@@DavidSharpMSc I think that just bad hires not specific to japanese. or prob wanted to take advantage paid to leave late kinda things.
@@DavidSharpMSc dude I was saying how unproductive the japanese not the company not paying the overtime.
@@DavidSharpMSc start my letter of "no" for the every japanese staff is like that the overtime kinda things.
Everyone, please take Josh's advice to heart. I wish I saw this video earlier, although maybe I wouldn't have listened.
I grinded myself to bone in a course of almost 4 years. Afterwards, I fell apart both mentally and physically. I went through really bad and dark times and it almost cost me my life. Thankfully, I made it. Next month, I will be ready to return to work, once I find one. This time, I am not gonna take any crap and I am gonna put myself at first place, which is what I should have done from the beginning. Please, do the same!
Good luck on your journey!
Go you!
Hope you are fine. Goodluck with work.
Did you find a nicer one?
you are so pathetic...
I've seen this happen to others at my internship and one of my coworkers always told me "Never over work yourself since they'll expect it all the time and you'll work yourself to death". Josh is right guys.
It always ends like this
Holy shit, this is so real. Years later, I would go around the office and tell younger devs to go home and live life.
When I burned out after four years, my supervisor had no sympathy.
They forced me out after burning out, they went bust the next month, fuck em, unfortunately they kept going, because they had money, because we were being paid a shittance.
@pokepoke guy They didn't I left.
Wish i learnt this at a younger age. I had a severe burnout at 57 after 25 years in a high pressure job. Nearly took my life. Took 2 years off and now work part time (3 days pw) driving Cars on and off Ships. Love it. Btw this young Man is on point.
I burn out constantly, about every 4 to 6 months because the deadlines are unrealistic and I'm expected to do whatever it takes to meet them. I love programming but I find the IT industry to be extremely toxic with suffocating deadlines and clients who are always unhappy with the product. You can work 16 hour days but its still not good enough... I advise most young people who want to be programmers to go into another field unless they are really passionate about programming.
@@BillClinton228 I'm passionate about programming, yes. But... I do feel a bit burnt out right now. I keep feeling pressured to get Jira cards done in 2 weeks even when some bugs come up.
His advice is true not only for the workplace, but for every human relationship! Set your boundaries / respect level early into the relationship and don't let anyone cross them!
TOTALLY AGREED. The minute you start helping for free, you end up being a free helper lifer!
I can testify. My job wasn't coding, but administration at a big insurance company. All I did all day was approve invoices. In the beginning I did about 300 a day (average employee did 50-100), and after a couple months it went down to 100 or even 80 or 50 a day. Boss noticed, *_talked_* to me about it, got fired a month later. *Never* doing that again. Just take it easy and be relaxed in the beginning. It's better to surprise them with your skills than to disappoint them with your empty tank.
All employees should support each other instead of against each other of the competitions in the companies.
I should`ve known this before... Just finished about 600-700 QA tests in one month and now I have to receive other shit
I had a similar situation. I was literally performing three times the amount of the others, yet got reprimanded because I was also taking and making personal calls. I quit taking and making the personal calls, but I also reduced my output to be in line with everyone else. I was the one who got fired.
Yep. It's quite usual. People do their best and put their health in their job. Then they got tired, bored, depressive. You're very right. Just like you should never stay in a job that isn't what was planned. Best way to end up bad or in conflict.
@@SKBottom This story shows again that they don't really care how hard you work
I learned this the hard way. For 4 years I worked my ass off on my first job. They sweet-talked me and said I was an idol to the company and offered me several raises. However, the moment I wanted to work regular 40 hours like everyone else, I'd get constantly called into review meetings asking "If I was okay, I seem unmotivated". I left that shitty place, got a new job earning double the salary, and working less. So yes, do minimal work necessary to keep everyone happy. Best advice ever man. Great content and TH-cam channel. You've got a new subscriber. P.S. You don't have an annoying voice lol.
People need to learn some self-respect. If your boss complains that you seem unmotivated, you tell them that it's THEIR PROBLEM to motivate you.
The only time you should work "your ass off" is when you are working for yourself because let's face it when you are working for a boss you are probably being underpaid and overworked. Even if you are getting $200 000 a year, that means the boss is making $2 000 000 a year from your work.
At least they were offering you raises with the sweet talk.
I don’t understand this logic. You can work hard and learn a bunch of stuff that will translate to another job if something happens, or you can do the bare minimum and have nothing to show for it. The developers that worked in big companies and are crying on LinkedIn for a job because they can’t find a job probably didn’t work very hard.
@@WesWesThePupja you're diluted
There is a joke doing the rounds - it goes like this:
Always give 100% a work, 10% on Monday, 19% on Tuesday, 38% on Wednesday, 28% on thursday and 5% on friday.
I used to think it was funny. After 28 years working in IT I actually think it's good advice and provides a nice home/work life balance.
If you give 120% 24/7 7 days a week 365 days you’ll be more successful
I work 4 hours per day, monday to friday. During those 4 hours my phone is in plane mode so my focus goes entirely to my job.
I stand up every 25 minutes to rest my eyes for 1 minute, and every hour I stretch.
Only when some client issues arise I work more.
It has been a great balance and always finish my work in time without burnout.
Amazing
What job do you do?
What job do you do?
So essentially think of yourself as CPU, work around 15-20%, but when something important is happening then turn it up to 70-80% and then back off. Never go 100% or you gonna overheat :P :D
good analogy
Or if you're an AMD CPU top out at about 60% LMFAO
@@TavaresTheGuru you are still living in 2010 lmao
@@kevgm No I have a Ryzen 3700x and when I play resource intensive games I can put my hand on the glass door of my pc and feel heat.
@@TavaresTheGuru Thats every gaming pc, and chances are its from your GPU
I've done this advice for the entirety of my life and people still think I have amazing work ethic lol! 😂
Then youve mastered the tactic lol
Maxibilianbus same 😂
@@mizukagematt1186 probably you're naturally smart
Most people are retarded.
@@ianwest1624 To be fair. A boss would not want to hire someone too smart. It would only make him feel insecure about his own position and co-workers would not like a genius around either. So yeah it is likely to become a dumbass paradise. Lay low, let yourself shine somewhere else.
This is so real. I was laid off for a year and a half and got a job and was so excited I got a job and they had tons of ot. I was working 80-100 hours a week because I wanted to work hard and get ot and also learned every thing and became the best at their job. Never got promoted for five years applying to many manager jobs while dumb people who don't do their job got promoted. If you make to much money for the company they will try to keep you at your position forever. Great advice Josh
Yes and you make yourself irreplaceable
Not only that, but you proved to be a very dependable person at the position you were at. They realized hiring someone else for that promotion is better than giving it to you and having to hire someone to cover your roles since you provided so much. Very common amongst the work force and how promotions go.
It's not like Joshua is ahead of it's time. He lived, like many of us, many life changing experiences and learnt about the reality of the corporate world. He makes a difference by being open AND public about it. He's risking a lot. Much respect my friend, lots have seen it and lived it, few are public about it.
Them: what do you do?
Me: just enough to not get fired.
i do that now.
Don't work hard, work smart. Nobody teaches this. You just learn it.
What if you work smart and hard?
Roberto Diaz lol work hard when it’s smart to do so
@@bigstevedzn2353 duh, lol
my bosses tried to push extra hours. they even refused to give me a laptop for over 2 years so i wouldn't be able to remote work. i saw all the new hires in the department get laptops at start. i would only work the 40h. if i had an appointment in between, i would work a little extra hard but still within the hours. and then we had summer hours where we would leave the office at noon on fridays. the boomers were so irritated by it, they would try and pile work so people have to stay late. but i wouldn't play ball. i would tell my boss bye see you on monday. eventually they gave up trying to change.
Phantom Warrior I don’t understand. If there was already a rule in place to close down at noon, why were boomers trying to pile work? Did they not respect the company’s decision?
Sometimes you get "lucky" and get a manager/project lead that knows all this and you can be open about expectations and workload with him/her. There are huge skill differences in managers too.
I have a manager like this and I’m celebrating 5 years at my job in 2 weeks. 😅
"I've always subscribed to the idea that if you really want to impress your boss, you go in there and you do mediocre work, half-heartedly." -Jim Halpert
"Ask not what you can do for your company, ask what your company can do for you"
wise man
PREACH!
So wise of you,but companies always want the oppesite
Yes
My personal philosophy is that if you work too hard you will grow to hate what you are working on. Take the gym for example, most newbies go in and completely shred only to stop going after a week. Its better to take it easy at the beginning and build up as you go. If you dont feel it then workout easy and the next day you will feel better about it. This works well for personal projects but for a job its more complicated and I think you have summed that up nicely.
Steady pace...wins the race.
Amen for that
What I learned is you need an exit strategy planned asap. If you’ve got 3 months emergency funds in the bank and can quit any time, you have much more negotiating power. Some people in the comments seem to think you can just give your boss the finger and do simply what’s on the job description. That works only if you have backup. If you’re not sitting on a pile of money and you’re living paycheck to paycheck, you won’t have that negotiating power. They’ll just fire you or make your life so miserable you’ll be desperate to quit or you do whatever they want you to. So rule number one, always have a stockpile of money so you can take care of yourself should things hit the fan and keep your resume updated. Then you’ll have the negotiating power do do what you want. Seen both sides of this myself. Those with money in the bank and an updated resume just change to a better job. People without those get ground into the dirt by their employers.
So true!!!!
3 months? ,😂
At least 1year funds
Always pay yourself first
Heard this a lot. It's called "Fuck You Money" in my circles.
The harder you work, the more work they are going to give you.
Yup. And with no raise.
It's pointless.
This is so true. I learned This when i was a assistant manager at a fast food restaurant, when I was 19. Did the whole grinding, cover everyone's shift, work crazy hard etc. Got fucked over of course. When I worked 2 jobs at once I changed my mindset. Boss at job A: "hey can you cover someones shift" Me: "oh well you know I am working a long shift at my other job that pays me more, sorry i really can't". Of course I'm actually off but they don't know that. On a super rare occasion ill come in and "save the day" just for fun. The Bosses think I'm super amazing for coming in despite me having 2 jobs. What I'm really doing is giving them the illusion that I actually give a fuck. Both of my Bosses don't realize they just gave me 4 days off right now. and they will NEVER KNOW lol
I straight say no, that I am not on-call or coverage relief. They would have to pay me extra, and it would have to be astronomical for me to accept that deal. Let the salaried, married to the company folk come in and cover the shifts.
Now I know
I can vouch for that. Similar story but a little older.
I got three jobs I do the same thing
As a professional software engineer, I expect to be paid for the amount of work not done 🙂
Eric Mugerwa interesting thinking
I get you
next level stuff
@thomas samson my own little side project, I have literally 'snookered' myself because of my shit, ill-thought out code, because I rushed the way I laid out my classes/models.
Damn, so that's what the matrix looks like...
What Josh has described is exactly how I have naturally worked all my professional life. You should see the looks on people's faces whenever I tell them that I value family and personal wellness more than a job (not the "wellness programs" companies force you to partake in THEIR way). It's almost as if they KNOW on a primal, instinctual level those things are way more important than bleeding yourself dry at work, but the wage slave inside of them is too afraid to say anything in response.
When a manager says I am so well and your not. Goodbye good employee.
I've always worked like that too
this is why companies like people who dont have experience. because they know those people work hard.
*Puts hard work on hold to watch a Joshua Fluke video about "Why you should stop working so hard. "
Perfect
forster82 no fuck that. Work like a savage, son.. but for yourself
Thank you for showing us inexperienced devs the reality of corporate world! You're awesome
Having a solid work ethic just means you will get exploited nowadays.
My job sucks! So tired of the laziness of others, so tired of it that when I hurt my knee while swinging kettlebells, I used the injury to get restrictions, light duty, for a few weeks. It's been a real eye opener. I had no idea how much I was actually doing until now, while I am not doing anything at all for a spell. The work is piling up and up and up. The bums regime to pick up the slack while I'm out. They think any day now I will be back and making it easy for them again, but this is going to take at least two more weeks. Soon they will be forced to get going and get things done. They simply cannot leave things as they are this long. They will not like it, but I will milk this as long as I possibly can and laugh the whole time.
Then I'm quitting. And they won't find anyone to replace me. We can't find people as it is and are severely short handed for months now. They deserve this. I'm burned out. Enough. Whether I'm trying hard or not, I always get the bullshit, because, frankly, women. I'm the only male left in the department. Without even trying, the girls can't keep up with me, not even close. Without even trying, I outwork two and three of them simultaneously. It really is a laugh. And yet they still have the nerve to demand more of me. Not anymore. I'm done. Taking it easy for a while and getting paid for it, then walking out.
I've started my own cleaning business. Now, I'll call the shots and work how I want to work.
Good for you.
Big facts here. The standard you set when you first get a job will be extremely hard to change later.
Story of my life. One thing to keep in mind: working hard does not mean working well. You just become tired and depressed if you push it to the limit, and then you try harder and do less. It's like running a marathon, you need to keep a steady pace.
Man this hits home. I always thought early on that working hard and doing extra work would seperate you from the crowd and lead to a promotion / raise. In fact it does the opposite. Why should they give a raise if you already do the work they require for free. I also saw others who did little work but got promotions simply because they asked for it. It is strange logic but a hard lesson learned. I have now even lost hours due to the pandemic while others who are lazy keep theirs. Time for a job change with my new approach. Wish me luck.
in my experience, you get a promotion by changing jobs. most employers want a lot of work for min pay. and that bar is reset when you change jobs. you can ask for a raise as same employer but i guarantee you will work way harder for that money.
This guy is very honest. That exactly what I was doing in my first job, and I remember that I was really drained at the end of every day. Now, in my second job, I not giving 100% because they aren't paying the appropriate amount, and when I press to 40-50% the upper management feels like Wow you're doing great !
When I worked as a line cook, I'd hustle hard every day.
Slow season came around, and one day I ran out of work to do.
So I told my chef.....
His response:
"Never say that again! You only know how to work fast, but now you need to work slow."
Sounds like me at work. Coworkers(not management) are like “man you’re so slow I can do that way faster” and I’m like no I work just as fast as I need to for the task
thomas samson I work at a pizza delivery place so I’m not worried about them having my best interest I’m trying to leave anyways lol
This month must have been the greatest plot twist in my life/career. I began with the mindset of getting the best job and just make money for a living to having the mindset of getting a job where I can learn more things and then actually progress in my career as an individual, not just with a company. Thank you Josh! much love.
Thats awesome man
I totally agree with this. I remember several years ago, I negotiated two weeks vacation in August, it was October at the time. I got the salary and the two weeks vacation in writing. I worked hard, then 9 months rolled by. In July, I reminded my manager that I was taking two weeks vacation in August.They started to try to stop me from going on vacation and threatened to fire me. I went on vacation anyway. The day I came back from vacation our manager resigned and three members of my sales team resigned. I left a month later. I now run my own business. I will never rely on a corporate job again.
This is so needed! I was straight out of college and landed a job in consulting. Gave it my all then I ended up burnt out. Thank you for speaking the truth!
I usually only work at a 50-75% capacity depending on how interesting the task is. Backend work where I actually have to think about logic? 75%. Tedious front end shit like making form elements? 40-50%. That other 25% is spent reading unrelated shit and in the form of micro breaks. People who work 100% with no breaks are going to burn themselves out.
Fuck front end, really. "I want this color and floating component with round corners". Screw that shit.
John Stewart try working a call venter job for 10 hours and they tell you to keep talking cuz “we’re struggling and have too many calls backed up of morons calling in”
@@rkbelmont1138 yeah it can be boring you don't even need to pay much attention just mindlessly creating a UI 😂😂
@@BlakeTedKord People think working in a call center is an easy job because you get "paid to sit all day and just talk on the phone". What they don't know is that you can't ever relax because there's always dozens of calls in queue, you're micro-managed both on the quality and the quantity and if your employer is crazy enough to have some sort of open space call center you have to concentrate extra hard to block out all your coworkers voices and keep apologizing to the client when they say "Hey, your coworker is so loud I can hear him from your microphone".
@@Alpharexx I worked in a call center as a Network/security/wireless engineer. Not only did I have to do complex networking work, I had to then also do stupid call center administration and have had to go through 1000-1500 emails a day talking with clients while being on the phone while doing engineering work. I left that job as soon as possible, would never in my life put myself in such an environment ever again. Worst of it all the pay wasn't even good even though I had to do 5 engineers jobs at once. Telecoms can go get fooked.
Why this channel is so underrated: comparing to other dev YT channels where they talk about unrealistic things and Josh come in here and gives actual practical advices no BS straight to the point.
My first job was an hourly safety job 13 hr night shift. I worked 80 hrs a week overseeing 2000 people, scarified my health, and constantly work nonstop. After 2.5 years no raise, no promotion (got passed over twice), and increase job task. I quit and got another job with a 28 percent raise, and only work 45 hr with salary.
Always work less and be prepared to job hop.
Bottom line every job you ever get is about expectations. A buddy at my first job ever taught me that when I asked him how he was able to come in late almost everyday and not get fired.
I just started my job and I'm exactly doing these same things you are mentioning here e.g giving extra time, almost 12hours a day but i agreed upon 8h/day, burning my self out to the point I'm Unable to do any other thing when I'm home, trying so hard to prove myself... but now i know that I'm not gonna be that guy anymore , Damn u just opened my eyes! Thank you man 👍🙏
Don't do it bro. They really don't give a shit about you, if you lose your job for pulling your 8hrs then you don't want to be working there.
Hey man, I wonder how you doing 6 months later? I'm on a very similar spot.
I worked in the federal government if you complete your work you can pretty much do whatever you want because the boss does not want to find extra work because that will give him extra work on finding extra work. I want to go back to federal service since I finished university and do my 15 years and retire.
Sounds cushy af
@@JoshuaFluke1 yea it was. Currently I manage a hotel overnight to do online courses. I pretty much get paid to do nothing and I have trained no one to do my job except my shitty part timer that does not really do it well but shes good to cover days off.
@@JoshuaFluke1 I will get a Federal job again so I can do my thing. After a few years its near impossible to fire you so the easiest way is to promote you due to rules and must transfer depts.
Being civil servant is my dream job. 😍
@@Kanal7Indonesia yea I think I'll return to military service as an officer should be good gig if picked right. I just need to work off a few pounds.
Really really needed to hear this. Thank you Joshua. I experienced burnout from putting 100% for my first job (I felt extremely guilty because they hired me knowing that it’s my first job like you said and I didn’t even have the 2 years of experience that they put on the job posting and yet they gave me a chance). Right now I realized I am doing so much more than my fellow coworkers who have the same position as me, yet I’m getting paid the same or even less than some people. My company also has the tendency to guilt trip the employees into over time and without pay and I didn’t notice it as a wild red flag because I was just so happy to get a job after graduation. Really wish I had watched this video a little sooner! For all of you new employees out there, Joshua is so right. Do not put in 100%!! A lot of employers will just take advantage of you that way!!
The first time I learnt this the hard way was in my local university where I took CS. This was during the start of the pandemic where institutions started to transition towards online learning. During that semester there were a lot of group work and final projects. Unluckily most of my assigned group mates on the classes I took flaked, leaving me to do all the projects alone. I had to work and study on average 19 hours a day for almost 4 months straight. At the end of it all I had to be hospitalized for overexerting myself. I had reported to the teaching assistants about this matter. Despite sparing no effort, they gave me a failing grade on one of my classes. There should be no way I failed after calculating my scores according to the syllabi. So, still in bed I protested to the teaching staff by phone. Gave proof that I did all my assignments. They told me to contact the administration. But the admins said there was nothing they could do about it because it was already past the deadline for scoring. Bullshit! How can the admins in charge of the database themselves not fix errors just because of a stupid rule! Yet they dare have the audacity to call themselves a "wOrlD cLaSS UniVeRsITy" that preaches honesty, truth and fairness! Their ranking isn't even above the 30th percentile of universities worldwide! Because I was marked as failing that class, I became ineligible to graduate with honors, all thanks to their incompetence. I swore never again to sacrifice my health for anything. It's not worth it. Just like companies, universities care about profit, and the more despicable ones like mine will do all they can to keep students in for longer.
My motto: I work hard, to not work hard.
Life; 8 hour work, 8 hour sleep, 8 hour frivolous thing. Work; 2 hour helping, 2 hour studying, 2 hour making things, and 2 hour idle. Based on my experience.
Hmmm. You might be on to something here.
Wish I could get 8 hours of sleep
@@jeremyrodriguez5923 you can take an hour or half nap... opportunistically throughout the day. Done that several times.
worse case is multiple nap throughout the day, as I didn't sleep the previous night but have to travel the next day.
@@jeremyrodriguez5923 try doxylamine succinate. Melatonin didn't even work for me... had sleep issues my whole life until I found it.
Love this. So true and even more so for when you are starting out. Like don't burn yourselves out right off the gate. Do your job and your job only.
Absolute gold advise never bend over for any company always respect yourself and time and if they don't then look for another job that will respect your time.
those impressions looks like our man has been through a lot of bs
You are correct
@@JoshuaFluke1 I applied for lambda school, I am pretty sure I used your link...got accepted working through the preparation materials. I've been using TH-cam and freecodecamp the past couple months and paid for a month of teamtreehouse a couple weeks ago. Thanks for your videos!
Tutorial hell
I was gonna say:
those impressions looks like our man has been attending drama school
Going through this problem now as I work for Amazon. As soon as I let off the gas for family time and took a vacation I got punished.
As to be expected for such an unethical and evil company.
Yea, they compensate pretty well but boy are they awful to work for.
I know amazon is awful to their warehouse workers, but aparently they treat their developers like trash as well. Man, Amazon as a whole really needs to unionize.
have you snitched on your coworkers yet? remember to snitch on your coworkers is the cool thing to do fellow amazon worker
@@SpergusonAutismo funny you say that. reported workplace harassment and got told to just deal with it.
I watch every single one of your videos, but I keep coming back to these ones that are GOLD. Thank you Josh!
this was uploaded in 2019 but spoke so much to me in 2021, thanks Josh!
I started in my job right off after I finished my studies. One year later I'm (let's say) 3 times better/faster. Do I work 3 times faster? Hell, no. I work 2 times faster.
My performance is better now working 6 hours than when I started working 8 hours, but I can "chill out" 2 hours a day doing tutorials, reading about code, etc and keep improving, but without pushing it to the limit every single day. And also, it benefits them that I keep growing.
Josh, my man, ithink you are my lucky charm. The day i found your channel i got a call from a company for an interview, it went well and i had my first "technical interview" and yesterday, right after you motivational video, they called me to say they were hiring me. After FOUR FUCKING YEARS i finally get my first dev job. It can't be a councidence
I'm finally gonna leave my mum's basement xD
How didi it work out for you?
Ralex i rented my own place and all that jazz. One month into the job and they told me to fuck off. They had lost a project and they didn't need me anymore.
Now I've been losing about 500 bucks each month paying rent and that for the past 7 months and still have to do it until august.
Tried finding anything else but nothing and now with covid it's not gonna happen.
Just when i thought my luck had changed, it was all a mirage
@@AnonGolden :( your luck will change again my friend, keep hope!
@@TheAlexm710 it's not looking too hot. With all the "situation" goong on I'm probably gonna have to go back to my parents and start saving again. Oh well, i guess it could be way worse
@@AnonGolden how are you doing now?
Super important video. Always glad to check your channel
Very practical advice👍💯
I started watching your videos like a month ago and I am starting to fall in love with these vids man. So real, just genuine and raw, no bs'ing and straight to the point. Keep em coming!
Man you've for sure magic powers. First, you had talked about your dev history in corporations (pretty similar to mine) until started to talk about failure and i was about to drop a tear remembering failures everytime trying so hard, and to put the cherry in the cake, this video.
Love your channel, thanks for all your content, it's very valuable and i appreciate this kind of videos, this gives me no motivation, moreover something to think and that's cool 'cause motivation is like having a ball (it works but only once a time) but thoughts stay a long time with us.
Keep the good work! and ty again
Thanks for sharing all these amazing videos!!
Thanks for the video man and I can relate! You gave a lot of good advice!
Good advice. It's very mature for your age.
It took me 7 years to realize all of that just because I loved what I did I put many years from 8:00 to 20:00 or if I've left at 17:00 I've took my laptop and worked from home until midnight. It didn't matter because as soon as the things started rolling out in a better way they would have thrown another thing to "make it challenging" but I was to young and naive to see it and I really loved what I was doing.
In the end, when I have started feeling not very well I have finally realized that I've pushed myself much too hard.
But now, thanks for all this experience, you're an employee with highly marketable skills. It means that you can dictate your rules to company.
I'm 20 y.o without commerce experience, for me ( as for every no experience devs) the main goal is to up my skills.
I think it's just matter of time to change priorities
Just trying to help :)
@@dmitrypatriarkh9757 Agreed but the thing is that I could have had similar results widhout going overboard with the work.
When you are at the beginning it's easy to get lost because you are very passionate and motivated by what you are creating but you must not forget that life is not only work. I did that and I don't recommend it.
@@dmitrypatriarkh9757 I dont think working overtime is going to "up your skills"
elenabob, "I've taken", not "I've took".
Fantastic message, Josh! I used to do this all the time in my beginnings and it always ended they way you described. True burnout is a horrible feeling. It's one step from depression.
This is video is right on time💯💯
I had a job where a person would do 3 hours overtime everyday and then complain about having to work so hard. After working there long enough I saw it was because management gave him harder projects because they knew he would sacrifice his livelihood to finish what was ever put in front of him.
Meanwhile, people like me, who did the bare minimum, wouldn't do more when the boss gave us more. The boss would actually help us because he knew the extra workload wasn't going to get done otherwise. The guy I just described understood this but, after working himself to the bone for years, he was convinced if he started doing less he'd be fired. It was tragic to watch him running around frustrated, tired, and angry everyday. His reward? Earning about 25 cents more per hour.
Ya he is worried that he will be fired for poor performance. Curious though, aren’t you worrried that you will be fired for doing the bare minimum or get less performance bonus?
@@junc2191 I wasn't worried about getting fired because it was a bad, manual labor job with high turnover. Management could find new people easily, but most wouldn't stay very long like all us regulars. They knew it and we knew it. Also, remember an extra 25 cents per hour isn't much of a performance "bonus," which is why most of us weren't motivated to go above and beyond for such a company.
@@TimErwin thank you for your reply!
At least at Walmart(Night Shift) Managers would have to stay and do whatever we didn't finish so as long as you didn't let them trick you into staying over they would be the ones to get screwed if they didn't give you enough man power to finish (Sometimes the task would show 18 hours which means it should be like 2-3 ppl doing it and they'd expect 1 person to do 18 hours worth of work in 8)
@junc2191 Performance bonus isn't enough to matter if they even give one and minimum wage jobs are a dime a dozen so if they fire you just easily get another one Walmart is a very good example (I used to stock Frozen/Dairy overnight and you would have to sign on/off for "tasks" basically the system would calculate roughly how long your stuff would take to be fully complete and I kid not you not there would be nights where the workload would be rated to take 20+ hours and the manager is essentially expecting you to do 20+ hours worth of work in 8 (They used to write ppl up for it too until ppl started pointing out the task times and complaining and corporate made the rule that you couldn't be wrote up for performance if the task time was more than 8 hours(16 for 2 ppl)(24 for 3 etc)
This is great advice, and I’d never seen it that way. Thanks Josh for another great video
You are my window to the industry, I’m new and this helps so much
I really needed to see this - thank you. I've been burnt out for a long time...but I was too close to the fire to see why. You pulled me back.
I completely agree with that 'baseline expectation' thing being crucial in the beginning. It's something I wish I had been taught earlier - but I'm glad I did learn it at the first job and not at a later time in life. Very relevant content. Pacing yourself is important, to avoid burnouts & self-care... Life is not just about work as you frequently state & I completely agree. Some people completely build their lives around their careers & if that makes them happy then go for it, but I agree that a balanced & a more varied life is much more fulfilling...
gotta say, these videos are a breath of fresh air. I've worked for so many companies that just take as much as they can from you. I wish I'd had this at the beginning of my working life.
This is gold. Leaving at the end of your work day, and having time to do your own thing outside of work are so important in any industry. It's good to see videos that don't suck up to the corporate bosses. I'd add, as I often do, that an historically effective way to improve things at work, as well as standing up for yourself, is to recognise your shared position of being exploited with your colleagues by the company; from there, you organise together to improve terms and conditions, pay etc, in other words you unionise your work place. It's self defence at work, collectively, against the corporate bureaucracy.
Employers always win as employmernt law is corrupt.
I like how you realize life is actually a game, even socially. I need to recognize this and play accordingly. Thank you for your content.
Thanks man. This video helped me alot.
In the startup I work at, I'm literally the only one who works their full 8 hours and thats it. They've been so used to working more than 8-9-10 hours a day that IM the one who feels bad for leaving at 5 or 510 and being the only one getting ready to leave =/
Well you've done your job already, there's nothing wrong with it
Yeah don’t feel bad. you’re working the amount of hours the job requires you to be there, and being paid for it. If other people want to waste their time do somthing that isnt even job and not getting paid then thats on them. if any manger brings up shit with you say that you work 10 hours a day if your salary is updated to 10 hour schedule. Nothing in life is free so start applying that to yourself because your time is extremely valuable.
@johan 11 that doesn't make your decision a wrong one though, stay strong
Seems like a lot of people view setting good boundaries (which is often difficult and uncomfortable to do) as being "unethical".
Your content has been hitting very close to home lately. In my department, the work never slowed down the past year, and I've arguably done more than many groups of people from my department and others, with absolutely nothing to show for it. That's why I'm teaching myself an entirely new field to shift into as I see fit.
Love this channel
Can´t wait for the new video! :-)
I'm starting an IT career next year and this kind of videos helps me a lot to be ready for what is coming. Thank you joshua
Be careful what you study. The uber downround is coming.
You have SO MUCH INSIGHT man, love your content.
I don’t know how I found your channel, but it showed up on my feed and after watching this video, I subscribed! So much wisdom in this video/nuggets I wish I had known 20 years ago! Great content.