I didn't realize until now, her body starts melting because it can't handle her concentrations of determination. it's the same thing that happened to the amalgamites.
Yes- she’s literally so determined to stay alive, she basically starts killing herself. I thought that was both hilarious and sad on my first play through
In the neutral run. She has ample amounts of determination to see you die and set the monsters free. But that amount when she suffers the fatal blow begins to melt her. Before she fades into dust. In the genocide route, she gains more determination as she can feel the fear, hope, and wishes of the whole world. She is the world’s only hope against you and thus transforms. Undyne the Undying is the power of determination and the soul of a VERY powerful boss monster. She is even titled the heroine in her fight.
@@Polomance862 not to be that guy but "boss monster" is a pretty specific term in Undertale that refers to the species that Toriel, Asgore, and Asriel belong to
Darker than Vantablack? Darker than Blackhole? Darker than my future? Darker than that hallway you have to go though at midnight when you need to go to toilet? Darker than your underbed? Dark, Darker, Yet Darker?
@Nevvile I mean, I don't know how dark is your future. Hopefully it's actually bright. I honestly wish you the best future there can be. Other than that... yes, it's unbelievably dark. Unless you're making a reference to something and it went right over my head.
For everyone wondering why Undyne dies in one hit if you attack Monster Kid, but takes dozens of hits in her neutral/pacifist fight - the game establishes that the greater your intent to hurt, the more damage you do. In the genocide route, Frisk is filled with so much hatred and violence that they can deal enough damage to one-hit Undyne. In neutral/pacifist routes, Frisk lacks the violent intent to kill her instantly, because they're good/morally grey instead of evil.
+ betray and surprise kills are 1-hit KO. Toriel did not want to hurt you, Papyrus was oblivious, Undyne just threw herself in front of Monster kid without thinking, Mettaton didn't think you were seriously gonna hurt him, Asgore was offering you a cup of tea.
@@davidperte62 I don't really think that Mettaton didn't think you were going to hurt him, I think he was just trying to buy more time for Alphys to evacuate the monsters by fighting you.
Monster kid is sans confirmed-!1!1!1!1!1!!!!1 They can both apparently teleport you want me to fight them on the genocide route. And their stat total is only a 2 number difference?!!?!1!
I've come to expect Undertale near-genocides to be sad, but Undyne continually refusing to die is straight up depressing. Such a good way to drive her character home and give her death more weight.... But shit man, now I need a hug.
Tried a genocide run and couldn’t kill MK coz dude, that’s just a scared kid like, I couldn’t. And then Undyne pulls this stunt and I was like “not worth it, restarting and doing a pacifist run”. Couldn’t even finish the fight
“what did you do to him?” “what did you DO TO HIM?” “papyrus, who i have trained EVERY DAY...” “even though i KNEW he was too goofy to ever actually hurt someone...” gosh, toby knows how to hit us hard for killing papyrus
Bendy Gillum gosh, i could never get over just brutally murdering an innocent, merciful being like papyrus, who thinks that you are offering a “hug of acceptance” when you go to kill him
@@Dittosaur.w. WHY NOT?! You should! He is an innocent monster and you brutally decapitate him. He never wanted to hurt anyone. He's kindhearted and doesn't deserve to die. Shame on all the people who killed Pap! Shame!
I think Undyne was a peak example for players to better understand how their actions effect the game. She has so many different dialogues that you could have based on whatever thing you did, every npc you kill, she knows and remembers. If you killed nobody she'll know and even make fun of you for it lmao. This game is amazing and is still one of my favorites to this day. (One of)
De hecho no tras un reset undyne no recuerda sus diálogos y son los mismos solo es por una ruta sabe si no mataste a nadie si realmente no lo hiciste y si solo mataste un random Simplemente no ve piedad absoluta en ti
Los reseta elimienan los recuerdos de todos, excpeto de flowey y probablemente de las amalgamas ya que vimos a una transformarse en un punto de guaradao, pero lo que si tienen son dejavus
“Hello, uh yes, I know I wiped out everyone in my path and threatened to do the same to everyone in this town but I was wondering if I could get a room?”
Genocide and Pacifist are not just about killing and sparing everyone. It’s about how you behave. Even though you can’t kill monster kid, sparing them gets you a neutral ending because you’re showing you still have some empathy. On the opposite end, not giving Undyne the water after you spare her also gives you a neutral ending because to be a true pacifist, you have to show kindness and compassion to everyone. You can’t just not kill people and then say that you’re a good person.
Very subtle touch (and can't remember if this happens normally, but) I really like how Frisk turns to face the player right after this interaction, as if having just now reaffirmed their humanity again
Just like when Kris turns to look at us when doing certain actions. Its like both of those characters are aware we're controlling them, which is sad. :c
@@YuriMeoDeos lmao right before scrolling down to read your reply I was picturing Frisk and Kris just slowly turning around to look at the player with that audio 😭
To me that hints she was exposed to determination in Alphys's home or lab. Either by mistake, or perhaps some under the table experiment by alphys? Sneakily injecting her with some determination, thinking it will protect her/make her stronger.
@@desplaynam3 this is how spoilers, obviously attack Monster Kid. Undyne will jump in and block the attack, and get OHKO'd. well, not quite KO'd. that's where the Undyne battle starts - on the bridge, not the Undyne Arena.q
I’ve actually never seen undyne’s death, I just knew she melted, but seeing this has made me admire and appreciate her WAY more as a character than I ever thought I would
Undynes neutral death is obviously tragic, but we can't ignore how much more full the beginning feels because of her talk about papyrus. She's not just "the head of the royal guard who will kill any human because the barrier needs to be broken" It feels like a friend avenging someone who they know never deserved what came to them. No big crash of music, no story on the origins of the souls, just straight challenging her friends killer to their face.
this is honestly more evil than a full genocide. in genocide, even if you feel bad you're still relieved that you finally beat undyne. but here,,, ouch :(
Since Undyne did not save a life [monster kid] from the monster killing all monsters she was not able to "connect" with all of the other monsters as she says "all of our hearts beat as one" or something of the like so she did not turn into undying but rather her own determination melted her.
Theres a way to kill undyne without fighting: kill her of heat stroke by pouring all the water on the ground in front of her fish lady face, which locks you from pacifist, the perfect evil plan, it works.
Marco Valencia I love how she try to pull her determination shows she was willing to save everyone. I thought she’d actually become undying but no and that made me a little sad.🥺🥺🥺
It’s interesting that the action of sparing Monster Kid invalidates your genocide run because you always end up hitting Undyne instead of MK and never actually kill them. That means that genocide requires not only killing everyone, but being malicious in your actions even to those you know you can’t kill
If you spare papyrus the last of the game will be change to a neutral route, basically if you spare a boss or mini boss your genocide route will end, though the area you attempted to do genocide is still affected, but if you spared Sans he just kill and dunk you
@@lord_khufu well, yeah, but MK is different. No matter what you do, you can’t kill them. It makes sense that sparing Papyrus, for instance, would invalidate a genocide run. Since certain characters are aware of different timelines, and the player possibly having completed a genocide run before, thus having knowledge that the choice was irrelevant, I thought it was interesting that the act of sparing someone who you knew would never die anyway would force a neutral run
This scene really makes you think for a moment. Would you really fight a kid that helped you in a different route? Would you go lower than you already have just to continue an evil route? While Undyne does take the hit instead if you decide to FIGHT, I can imagine blind players thinking for a while. Honestly, I'm just glad that Monster Kid leaves unharmed either way, even if the world does get destroyed in the Genocide Ending.
It's so interesting how much killing Papyrus changes Undyne's pre-fight dialogue. Normally, her anger towards the player is focused on her primary job, which is to protect monsters from humans. However, once Papyrus dies, she has a reason to hate you in particular: out of concern for the well-being of a friend. No longer is she ridiculing the idea of telling a well-known story in her world, rather she noticed the odd lack of Papyrus in one of the most underrated monologues in the game.
i think that's one of the saddest deaths in undertale bc after her health bar is all the way down and she continues attacking, u can see her slowly deteriorating in her attacks bc she gets slower and slower
Isn't it weird that when you attack monster kid, Undyne is killed in one hit but if you spare monster kid, Undyne takes several hits despite having the same weapon, armour, LV, EXP, and base attack.
Basically that's a betrayal kill assuming that monster kid believed in you and he wanted u to spare him but u didnt and betrayal kills do extra dmg that's why
Yeah. Maybe it fits well with her being The True Hero. In any other game you are "the hero" and if your main character dies the game is over so special attention is given. Another character that gets that kind of extra attention is Sans but you only fight him in Genocide route.
Undyne the Undying dies smiling, confident that Asgore can and _will_ kill you, saving not only the monsters, but everyone and everything from the demon that is Genocide Frisk. Regular Undyne dies trying in vain to cling to life, the same Determination that let her hold out that long also causing her magic-based body to melt and deform, before she finally dies and fades away into dust.
I don't exactly find the death unsettling, at least until the 'I won't die!' part where she's struggling to hold on to her determination. The first time I came across this battle, I was surprised at how sad it was after after she started dying, especially when orchestrated with 'Don't give up', I don't know, it just caught me off guard on how sad it was to see Undyne struggling to stay determined as I kept striking her down.
when her hp bar get to zero, and she dint died i was like "OMG HOW TO BEAT HER????" untill i realized no matter what u do in that moment (use spare, check or fight) she will slowly dying
After dying from Undyne in genocide for the past few weeks seeing the fight against normal Undyne in the neutral route and that I was struggling on it is just sad.
I find it interesting how no one is talking about what happens at 5:37 I mean think about it, Undyne surely would have turned into her Undying forme at that part, right? But she doesn’t. Because you SPARE Monster Kid, she doesn’t turn into the Undying forme. Monster Kid was probably someone important to Undyne in a way. When you’re doing a Pacifist run, she gently sets down Monster Kid after accidentally picking him up; And, more importantly, she backs AWAY from him when he defends you. She WATCHES you attempt to murder someone. She’s never seen you kill anyone else, but at that moment when she sees you trying to kill Monster Kid THAT is why she turns into her Undying forme. She still has determination, but it doesn’t become nearly as strong without watching a friend nearly fall before her.
I mean yeah but I think it's more because u didn't kill her u now essentially just fucked the genocide and it reverts to neutral so thus u just do a normal fight with her like in the neutral route if u don't spare her
The final hit being perfect in accuracy when defeating Undyne before she is weakened is incredibly poetic. A light of triumph in victory after a struggle against an armored fighter.
Y'all realize that this chick had so much determination in her naturally that when she was dying she was melting like the failed projects like that's some deep shit right there.
This reminds of the fight in dragon age in the elf orphanage one of the elves defending the place is a ghost and keeps yelling "I can't die I can never die" like they died fighting so determined they don't even know they died.
It’s been years yet I look back on the neutral route Undyne fight and am still saddened, she is determined to keep alive and defend her people, but as a result ends up killing herself as Monsters aren’t able to handle Determination
Yeah she is determined here too, this makes her live longer in return for basically melting, she just isn't as determined as in actual genocide where you don't spare mk
The fact that Undyne refuses to stop fighting until her body gives up is really sad (her attacks becoming less dangerous and hit for less damage makes me feel like the biggest jerk in the world).
It reminds me of the fight between Lee and Gaara, how even when he fell unconscious his body continued pushing forward on autopilot, because he was *that* determined to try and win.
Did you notice the final hit wasnt a slash but a foot print. Not only did you not kill her with a blade but you kick her while shes already at her lowest point. All it took to finish her was a kick.
This just goes to show how much toby cared about this little game that he made SO MANY different dialogues depending on how YOU personally play, whether you spare that ONE monster on genocide, or kill only one monster, atleast SOMETHING changes. Thats how much toby fox cared.
@@selenium3447 well..no you have to do it in the ruins first killing the first froggit and each monster in next area right after toriel kill each you encounter in that exact room until your battle says..but nobody came but also make sure to save at the save point just incase yt videos also help i know this was year ago but still.
Actually, technically, she did become an amalgamate. She jus died much earlier than the ones in the lab because she has a TON of determination, and her body couldn’t handle it. The ones in the lab were carefully injected with certain amounts of DT.
@@ShadowSkull1240 inb4 undyne is the first amalgamate to die does undyne count as one, though? she isn't fused with a monster yet, but she sure is melting down like one
@@ShadowSkull1240 the amalgamates would have died as well but they melted with themselves to have bodies strong enough to stand the determation they were inyected I mean look at endogeny it's at least 10 dogs in there Or snowdrakes mom ? She's 16 monsters fused into one Undyne had no one to melt with and well....You all Saw what happened
Dark Pony263 that does happen that happened to me when I was fighting undyne the undyne true heroin when she had the giant heart on her chest aldo I didn't beat sans yet
Joe6168 even if I started one I'd chicken out, successfully making the situation worse by making a a neutral I think undyne's fight is the main reason I can't do neutral either
Madame Jelly That actually got me super depressed when even the text in the box says "..." because goddamn you see someone giving it all to protect their whole world and they fail... God. Dammit.
@@commandercornflakes3786 Chara is only like that once you feed them with lv, if you have basically no soul and you are filled with hatred of course you'll be evil. The real villain is the player imo. Chara can be good in pacifist run (there's a lot of proof that they narrate everything)
2018 and I’m still discovering new things about Undertale. Lots of weird stuff with Gaster, and his followers. So many hidden gems that you’d have to play hundreds of times in order to see.
Dang, I’ve never actually seen the dialogue from Undyne after you spare monster kid instead of killing him.. In some ways I actually prefer it over the other scene of her sacrificing herself to save him. We get to see her stop and grieve over Papyrus, and she turns that into a greater motive to kill you. Not only that, she also brings up Sans not being around- which is a good reminder that something’s still going on with him, he hasn’t just disappeared after the death of his brother. Really cool stuff.
You spared monster kid, therefore there is technically good in you. Therefore undyne wants to access her full power, but can’t because you aren’t evil, rather just “defending yourself”
So your saying.. If I delibiretly go out of my way to kill every monster in The ruins, waterfall, and snowdin as well as toriel and Papyrus... And just spare monster kid. I’m not doing genocide anymore I mean think about it Monster kid lives either way Spare him Attack him He still lives. So you should be able to turn it back into genocide after killing undyne ,besides You Erase the world at the end
YGuy1 but dude, monster kid doesn’t die, and either you save him. You spare him or you try to kill him Either, way Undyne saves him. So there’s no point...
@@vaasmontenegro2016 Sorry I played the game in all endings, and if you spare monster kid the ending go's to neutral. A true genocide run doesn't spare *anyone*
So... when you spare monster kid , genocide route will automattically change to neutral route. Interesting🤔... 2020: another old comment. I also thought this was someone else's comment. Lol
Yeah Genocide is supposed to be you going on a literal rampage and killing every possible thing you see, showing absolutely no aigns of remorse or faltering. But if you spare anyone, that darkness of destroying the whole world disappears, because you dropped an opportunity to kill someone
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hello
Lmao
this just came into my recommended so
Hi
Monster kid: I knew you weren’t so bad!
*kills everyone*
Monster kid is a kid they don't know that.
I am 69th like lol
hey other furret :)
Hahahahaha
Hi las i’m of your same generation and region
*commits various war crimes, spares 1 kid*
Undyne: *seven*
s e v e n .
@@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa *S E V E N*
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@@donald.mustard S E V E N
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me in genocide: sparing 1 monster
Undertale: Welcome To Neautral Ending!
Atleast sans doesn't fight you
Unless you spare Jarry. Cuz its god damn Jarry. 😂. But sparing him wont actually effect your genocide route.
ikr
@@jamescrain4452 shhhhhhh no one noticed
@@yusufkere_9443 i did boi
I didn't realize until now, her body starts melting because it can't handle her concentrations of determination. it's the same thing that happened to the amalgamites.
Yes- she’s literally so determined to stay alive, she basically starts killing herself. I thought that was both hilarious and sad on my first play through
In the neutral run. She has ample amounts of determination to see you die and set the monsters free. But that amount when she suffers the fatal blow begins to melt her. Before she fades into dust.
In the genocide route, she gains more determination as she can feel the fear, hope, and wishes of the whole world. She is the world’s only hope against you and thus transforms.
Undyne the Undying is the power of determination and the soul of a VERY powerful boss monster. She is even titled the heroine in her fight.
@@Polomance862 not to be that guy but "boss monster" is a pretty specific term in Undertale that refers to the species that Toriel, Asgore, and Asriel belong to
Jam attack! The gd creator?
@@james2be916 please for the love of god you people need to stop doing this it's so annoying
"Looks like free EXP."
Damn, that's so dark it no longer absorbs the light, it emits darkness of its own.
Darker than Vantablack?
Darker than Blackhole?
Darker than my future?
Darker than that hallway you have to go though at midnight when you need to go to toilet?
Darker than your underbed?
Dark,
Darker,
Yet Darker?
Nevvile yes.
@Nevvile
I mean, I don't know how dark is your future. Hopefully it's actually bright. I honestly wish you the best future there can be. Other than that... yes, it's unbelievably dark. Unless you're making a reference to something and it went right over my head.
Andrewik Oh,my heart.It's melting.Your word,it's just so sweet.
>Free EXP being dark
>Genocide run
????????????
“Looks like free exp”
Sounds so brutal
i have a theory that the check descriptions are flowey or i guess chara speaking to you, since on a genocide route you just lose all humanity
@@Ohmman its chara
@@Ohmman its not a theory it has been confirmed that its chara
#charaundertale
@Merg
I love how after you "defeat" her, her attacks get more desperate and slow, even if she can't win, she tries her best to even harm you.
Yeah and BC of it she died :( she died BC of too much determination at monster can handle.
i think his pc is lagged bro
That profile picture though
@@tysonmoody3314 what about it?
@@TheBigR02 wait did you change your profile picture
For everyone wondering why Undyne dies in one hit if you attack Monster Kid, but takes dozens of hits in her neutral/pacifist fight - the game establishes that the greater your intent to hurt, the more damage you do. In the genocide route, Frisk is filled with so much hatred and violence that they can deal enough damage to one-hit Undyne. In neutral/pacifist routes, Frisk lacks the violent intent to kill her instantly, because they're good/morally grey instead of evil.
@reeseybeestey3701 LMAOOO
@ReeseyBeestey bro-
+ betray and surprise kills are 1-hit KO. Toriel did not want to hurt you, Papyrus was oblivious, Undyne just threw herself in front of Monster kid without thinking, Mettaton didn't think you were seriously gonna hurt him, Asgore was offering you a cup of tea.
@@davidperte62 And Muffet will also be 1-hit kill if you hit her when she tries to spare you
@@davidperte62 I don't really think that Mettaton didn't think you were going to hurt him, I think he was just trying to buy more time for Alphys to evacuate the monsters by fighting you.
I just realize that monster kid has
Better stats than sans
JakeGoGaming lol that's what my first thought was too
JakeGoGaming sans could beat him though lol
and he doesnt have arms
Yeah, but having crap attack stats doesn't matter when you hit ONCE EVERY FRAME! xD Seriously, that was the most fucked up part of the Sans fight
sans the skeleton 2020 if sans was angry enough to hurt an innocent kid
"*I've gotta go tell Undyne she was wrong about you!"
**Goes to a Different Direction**
Monster kid is sans confirmed-!1!1!1!1!1!!!!1
They can both apparently teleport you want me to fight them on the genocide route. And their stat total is only a 2 number difference?!!?!1!
Lol
Oof
Which also means you fuck up your genocide route lmao
Wait I thought undyne had another super form or something. Like with a heart in her armor and stuf.
"I'm gonna go tell undyne!"
"Yeah... about that..."
That's the neat part, you dont!
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@@Akikai.2 I undid it, get trolled
@@dingdawng *unlikes* try again
I've come to expect Undertale near-genocides to be sad, but Undyne continually refusing to die is straight up depressing. Such a good way to drive her character home and give her death more weight.... But shit man, now I need a hug.
Tried a genocide run and couldn’t kill MK coz dude, that’s just a scared kid like, I couldn’t. And then Undyne pulls this stunt and I was like “not worth it, restarting and doing a pacifist run”. Couldn’t even finish the fight
*hugs*
🫂
I was doing a neutral run and I decided to do a voice for undyne, when I got to that part I had to stop cuz I was abt to cry
@@j.g.3293honestly that's why I just don't do genocide runs I can never fully disconnect myself from my actions in game and it feels wrong
“what did you do to him?”
“what did you DO TO HIM?”
“papyrus, who i have trained EVERY DAY...”
“even though i KNEW he was too goofy to ever actually hurt someone...”
gosh, toby knows how to hit us hard for killing papyrus
Agreed I'm no longer sad about killing Papyrus thou 😑
Bendy Gillum gosh, i could never get over just brutally murdering an innocent, merciful being like papyrus, who thinks that you are offering a “hug of acceptance” when you go to kill him
HR Shotta Yeah I agree and even though his death is supposed to be kind of funny it is just sad
@@Dittosaur.w. WHY NOT?! You should! He is an innocent monster and you brutally decapitate him. He never wanted to hurt anyone. He's kindhearted and doesn't deserve to die. Shame on all the people who killed Pap! Shame!
Bendy Gillum Shame on you
“Free exp”
JESUS THAT GOT DARK
interesting how that same phrase in any other game has close to no impact whatsoever. puts things into perspective
Free EXP is dark while you commit Genocide?
K den
Dominik Römer yeah it stands for execution points instead of experience
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WAIT HOLD UP I JUST REALIZED HOW MANY LIKES THIS GOT
I think Undyne was a peak example for players to better understand how their actions effect the game. She has so many different dialogues that you could have based on whatever thing you did, every npc you kill, she knows and remembers. If you killed nobody she'll know and even make fun of you for it lmao. This game is amazing and is still one of my favorites to this day. (One of)
De hecho no tras un reset undyne no recuerda sus diálogos y son los mismos solo es por una ruta sabe si no mataste a nadie si realmente no lo hiciste y si solo mataste un random Simplemente no ve piedad absoluta en ti
Los resets limpian los recuerdos de todos menos Flowey.
Un True Reset si afecta a Flowey.
Los reseta elimienan los recuerdos de todos, excpeto de flowey y probablemente de las amalgamas ya que vimos a una transformarse en un punto de guaradao, pero lo que si tienen son dejavus
Watching Undyne desperately try to keep herself from fading is the most chilling and soul-crushing part of genocide route in my opinion.
I like it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's why I only do the pacifist route
*near genocide
This is neutral
"Theres only 3 endings" there are so many possibilities in neautral
Actually 4
@@joshadam2240 Actually 5
@EclipseTrips damn nice
EclipseTrips good one I like how everyone added a number but yours dang what a pro move.
Actually no
That sad moment when Monster Kid is as twice as stronger than Sans..
Sans has karmic retribution though, and he's actually smart enough to dodge attacks...
@@semicolon2599
If monster kid didn't sin a great deal then sans won't do that much damage. The only thing he can do is teleport
DragonLord yo this guy can dodge everything and if he didn’t sleep he would probably win
Ghost Of Sparta OOF
Technically, Sans is better. Want to know why? 'CAUSE HE ACTUALLY ATTACKS YOU! (And kills most genociders within his first attack....)
This was honestly so sad, Undyne literally fought until her last breath and even then wanted to save everyone. That’s the real hero of Undertale!
“What happens if you spare Monster Kid in the Genocide Route?”
It stops being Genocide route. EZPZ!
XD I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking that
needs to be top comment
So, no Megalovania?😢
Yeah, lol
Literally this, I don't know how so many people don't realize that this is just the normal undyne fight as if you're doing a neutral run.
"Free Exp"
Me: *That's just...*
@@SimplyNoobie
r/cursedcomments
*SwElL*
- Spinel
help i don't find that brutal
@@SimplyNoobie
CHILD KILLER?
I dont know if this is right..
If its free Xp tell monster bro to run
"When you step forward I will kill you!"
Goes back to the Snowdin hotel and asks about their monthly rates.
At the Barrier in Pacifist: "If You Have Any Unfinished Business, I Suggest You Do It Now."
*DOES THE SAME THING*
* but nobody came
You did evacuate Snowden to get the monster kid encounter
* but nobody came *
“Hello, uh yes, I know I wiped out everyone in my path and threatened to do the same to everyone in this town but I was wondering if I could get a room?”
You like asmr
*kills everyone*
Undyne: that's fine
*tries to kill monster kid*
Undyne: this is not *OKIE DOKIE*
Genocide and Pacifist are not just about killing and sparing everyone. It’s about how you behave. Even though you can’t kill monster kid, sparing them gets you a neutral ending because you’re showing you still have some empathy. On the opposite end, not giving Undyne the water after you spare her also gives you a neutral ending because to be a true pacifist, you have to show kindness and compassion to everyone. You can’t just not kill people and then say that you’re a good person.
*Kills fish with Ballet Shoes *
*Fish melts into dust *
* Is this *_TRUE LOGIC_* ? *
The true power of all - ballet. Even melts down fishes.
Because of determination
Ale Dana25
* even with determination, no fish can survive shoes *
@@LavaXD especially ballet shoes.
this is what toby fox is gonna be know for in 2056.
To anyone asking if this is still a genocide route, no its not, its a neutral run now
You're welcome ; )
Kung Kung for someone that no hit the heroine and sans to half way.....this is painful to watch....
Kung Kung it is ok i guess :p
Kung Kung sup
Hey
Very subtle touch (and can't remember if this happens normally, but) I really like how Frisk turns to face the player right after this interaction, as if having just now reaffirmed their humanity again
Just like when Kris turns to look at us when doing certain actions. Its like both of those characters are aware we're controlling them, which is sad. :c
True, but i like to take this as they're "are you serious right neow?" Bc you messed up the whole genocide lol
@@YuriMeoDeos Also true lol
@@sweetwheatsycharas last moments in frisk. You little sh
@@YuriMeoDeos lmao right before scrolling down to read your reply I was picturing Frisk and Kris just slowly turning around to look at the player with that audio 😭
She was turning into an amalgamate before she straight up dies my heart is hurt.
To me that hints she was exposed to determination in Alphys's home or lab. Either by mistake, or perhaps some under the table experiment by alphys? Sneakily injecting her with some determination, thinking it will protect her/make her stronger.
The saddest route is the neutral one. Especially if you kill everyone but Papyrus.
What will happen if u do?
@@venor2612 here's what happens: th-cam.com/video/xlMNAeOnKSc/w-d-xo.html
That’s what I did on my first playthrough
You're filled with
*D E P R E S S I O N*
Nah, the Queen Alphys and King Mettaton endings are the saddest. (And Flowey's death is the saddest death.)
Undyne: "See how strong we are when we believe in ourselves?"
Me: **crying**
i don’t know why but this gave me mixed emotions
Yeah,its so sad :(
me: and thats why im weak as all fk
This is why in Undertale, I always keep my lv1 and hp20
So that’s why I’m weak…
This game really knows how to make you feel like an ass after facing the consequences
This version of Undyne's death literally scares me so much.
that is why you don't over-dose on determination
@@MrNoLife.
Determination
Not even once
I can't get genocide undyne I keep on getting the natural kill when I do genocide HOWWW
@@desplaynam3 this is how
spoilers, obviously
attack Monster Kid. Undyne will jump in and block the attack, and get OHKO'd. well, not quite KO'd. that's where the Undyne battle starts - on the bridge, not the Undyne Arena.q
@@duytuannguyen7117 I never fight monster kid for some reason how I kill all but don't fight monster kid??
Undyne: *starts melting* "I W O N T D I E
Me: Oh my god that is terrifying.
More terrifying when you see my clothes still standing when you "kill" me in my fight.
Wait can you fight Grillby? I don’t wanna, but now I’m curious
@@Fionacle no
I WON'T DIE!!!
dies
This is what happens when a monster is too determined, their body lacks enough "material" to hold up, so just dusted away, remember the amalgams?
I’ve actually never seen undyne’s death, I just knew she melted, but seeing this has made me admire and appreciate her WAY more as a character than I ever thought I would
Yeah same-
Undyne is one of, if not my favorite character in undertale, and it just really hurt seeing her melt due to her own determination.
Undynes neutral death is obviously tragic, but we can't ignore how much more full the beginning feels because of her talk about papyrus. She's not just "the head of the royal guard who will kill any human because the barrier needs to be broken" It feels like a friend avenging someone who they know never deserved what came to them. No big crash of music, no story on the origins of the souls, just straight challenging her friends killer to their face.
Undyne is one of my favorite characters, because of how determined she is to protect the people she loves...
Me to!!!!
*Green is not a creative color
No, I have not watched DHMIS and no, I don’t know why I put so much space
Asgore is the best:th-cam.com/video/HUjM15fEYpk/w-d-xo.html
Like me and my PC
@@bjrntykhelle2892 he was talking for undyne not for mk bruh
"Looks like free EXP."
Boy, that just got dark.
yup
wait
DO I KNO-
And Nice
Stolen comment
So does the 666 likes u got there
You killed someone and brainwashed them into killing someone else, so I dunno what your talking about
I remember killing Undyne on my first neutral play through, but I forgot how depressing it was to kill her.
"see how strong we are when we believe in ourselves?" That line touched my heart
this is honestly more evil than a full genocide. in genocide, even if you feel bad you're still relieved that you finally beat undyne. but here,,, ouch :(
Since Undyne did not save a life [monster kid] from the monster killing all monsters she was not able to "connect" with all of the other monsters as she says "all of our hearts beat as one" or something of the like so she did not turn into undying but rather her own determination melted her.
Theres a way to kill undyne without fighting: kill her of heat stroke by pouring all the water on the ground in front of her fish lady face, which locks you from pacifist, the perfect evil plan, it works.
@@Perry_on_pAws88 genius
@@UrielDripper yes truly a thrill
Marco Valencia I love how she try to pull her determination shows she was willing to save everyone. I thought she’d actually become undying but no and that made me a little sad.🥺🥺🥺
It’s interesting that the action of sparing Monster Kid invalidates your genocide run because you always end up hitting Undyne instead of MK and never actually kill them. That means that genocide requires not only killing everyone, but being malicious in your actions even to those you know you can’t kill
They*
@@sleekyissleepy Fair enough. Edited
If you spare papyrus the last of the game will be change to a neutral route, basically if you spare a boss or mini boss your genocide route will end, though the area you attempted to do genocide is still affected, but if you spared Sans he just kill and dunk you
@@lord_khufu well, yeah, but MK is different. No matter what you do, you can’t kill them. It makes sense that sparing Papyrus, for instance, would invalidate a genocide run. Since certain characters are aware of different timelines, and the player possibly having completed a genocide run before, thus having knowledge that the choice was irrelevant, I thought it was interesting that the act of sparing someone who you knew would never die anyway would force a neutral run
@@--astro-- i think it was just a spelling mistake
This scene really makes you think for a moment. Would you really fight a kid that helped you in a different route? Would you go lower than you already have just to continue an evil route?
While Undyne does take the hit instead if you decide to FIGHT, I can imagine blind players thinking for a while.
Honestly, I'm just glad that Monster Kid leaves unharmed either way, even if the world does get destroyed in the Genocide Ending.
Wow. Her death here is more brutal to watch than in Genocide. I swear this game is fantastic.
When you go spearfishing, but the fish also has a spear.
DarkSoul 303 * Spear of Justice intensifies *
*oh fu-*
XD
Oh sh-
THEY HAVE COME TO TAKE REVENGEEE
Undyne: you won't last a second
Me: one Mississippi
*m i s s i p i*
Found that on mems
Memes**
Messipissi
M i s s i
P i s s i
?
This truly shows how Undertale's lore is, as one soul could chance your path forever, giving mercy to a single child changed it.
Undyne: …I won’t…..give up…
*shoots weak projectiles at player*
Player: _random confusion_
Sans: 1 ATK 1 DEF
MK: 2 ATK 2 DEFENSE
#hardestbossinthegame
I mean, sans does 1 damage per millisecond, so like, a full second = -40 HP.
@@TheBonesMalone actually 1 damage per frame and a second has 24 yet undertale goes at 30 fps means....30 damage per second not counting karma
@@adrianaardila1321 then why do all the links (not wiki since its not really reliable) say that he does 1 per millisecond?
You don't have short invisibility when fighting Sans, that's why it's hard af
@@adrianaardila1321 i would say lag but this is not a online game
So how many endings do you want?
Tobby Fox: Yes
who tf tobby
@@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa undertale's creator
tobby
@@lunatism9714 no
@@acc-lab1233 what
It's so interesting how much killing Papyrus changes Undyne's pre-fight dialogue. Normally, her anger towards the player is focused on her primary job, which is to protect monsters from humans. However, once Papyrus dies, she has a reason to hate you in particular: out of concern for the well-being of a friend. No longer is she ridiculing the idea of telling a well-known story in her world, rather she noticed the odd lack of Papyrus in one of the most underrated monologues in the game.
i think that's one of the saddest deaths in undertale bc after her health bar is all the way down and she continues attacking, u can see her slowly deteriorating in her attacks bc she gets slower and slower
Isn't it weird that when you attack monster kid, Undyne is killed in one hit but if you spare monster kid, Undyne takes several hits despite having the same weapon, armour, LV, EXP, and base attack.
Undyne jumped in the way with her guard down to save monster kid
Basically that's a betrayal kill assuming that monster kid believed in you and he wanted u to spare him but u didnt and betrayal kills do extra dmg that's why
Chara is the reason you killed them so fast. The second you spared the kid she left.
Your Intent, and your resolve wavered
Probably because your amount of malice decreases once you spare someone, which will make you do less damage
In the neutral run, I feel as if her death is so much more creepy than the genocide. Anyone else find her death more unsettling?
I like this death better though-- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah. Maybe it fits well with her being The True Hero. In any other game you are "the hero" and if your main character dies the game is over so special attention is given. Another character that gets that kind of extra attention is Sans but you only fight him in Genocide route.
Undyne the Undying dies smiling, confident that Asgore can and _will_ kill you, saving not only the monsters, but everyone and everything from the demon that is Genocide Frisk. Regular Undyne dies trying in vain to cling to life, the same Determination that let her hold out that long also causing her magic-based body to melt and deform, before she finally dies and fades away into dust.
I don't exactly find the death unsettling, at least until the 'I won't die!' part where she's struggling to hold on to her determination. The first time I came across this battle, I was surprised at how sad it was after after she started dying, especially when orchestrated with 'Don't give up', I don't know, it just caught me off guard on how sad it was to see Undyne struggling to stay determined as I kept striking her down.
Undyne melts into something like an amalgamation and is basically denying her death. Undyne the undying accepts her death.
When you remember how difficult the Undyne boss battle is in Genocide and chicken out
A a person who hasn’t gotten that far in the game, I appreciate you going through the dialogue fast.
2:59 when you fked up and you have no idea what to so you just spam all of the push able buttons
lol
this was me when the yellow arrows came in
Uhm...
I play on mobile and i did it better...
@@Peter_Gijsbers How'd you get it on mobile
@@incredibletyphoon4558 I can tell u how to get it on mobile
7:47 that soul must be having a siezure
*69 likes*
XD
"I gotta go tell Undyne she was wrong about you!!"
Undyne: *seven*
If you spare monster kid, normal undyne boss comes.
But if you try to kill monster kid, you must fight Undyne the Undying
“I won’t die! I won’t d i e ! I w o n ‘ t d i e !”
Fuck... This made me feel disturbed and devastated on so many levels...
I l I k e I t M o r e . . . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is the same as believing that you can be anything that you want to, and then having reality come in the way.
The music, the failing attacks, getting slower. One of the worst, most heart-wrenching deaths in Undertale. Yeah, worse than Toriel.
when her hp bar get to zero, and she dint died i was like "OMG HOW TO BEAT HER????" untill i realized no matter what u do in that moment (use spare, check or fight) she will slowly dying
whatever you say Flowery
you didn't even spell flowey right
artgoat Who
Undyne
The character in the video
The video that you are commenting on.
* you hear a faint bony voice in the back of your mind
“SEE, HUMAN, I KNEW YOU COULD DO IT!”
After dying from Undyne in genocide for the past few weeks seeing the fight against normal Undyne in the neutral route and that I was struggling on it is just sad.
Me: *goes fishing*
Me: *thinks i got a big tuna*
Me: *realises that i just got a fish with armor on*
And a spear
Spear of justice intensifies
*undyne theme begins to play*
@@scado5679 that's spear of justice.
*Spear Of Justice Intensifies even more*
I find it interesting how no one is talking about what happens at 5:37
I mean think about it, Undyne surely would have turned into her Undying forme at that part, right? But she doesn’t. Because you SPARE Monster Kid, she doesn’t turn into the Undying forme.
Monster Kid was probably someone important to Undyne in a way. When you’re doing a Pacifist run, she gently sets down Monster Kid after accidentally picking him up; And, more importantly, she backs AWAY from him when he defends you.
She WATCHES you attempt to murder someone. She’s never seen you kill anyone else, but at that moment when she sees you trying to kill Monster Kid THAT is why she turns into her Undying forme.
She still has determination, but it doesn’t become nearly as strong without watching a friend nearly fall before her.
I mean yeah but I think it's more because u didn't kill her u now essentially just fucked the genocide and it reverts to neutral so thus u just do a normal fight with her like in the neutral route if u don't spare her
She only becomes Undyne the Undying ONLY in genocide. Monster kid has nothing to do with that.
Or maybe it's because she has a reason to use her DETERMINATION in the genocide run
If you spare any character on genocide you abort it and so she wont become Undyne the Undying
undyne was too angry to die when she was one hitted
That was haunting. I only did the pacifist run; so I never saw this. Such an amazing game.
The final hit being perfect in accuracy when defeating Undyne before she is weakened is incredibly poetic. A light of triumph in victory after a struggle against an armored fighter.
This is sadder than when you kill undyne the undying.
dude do you know how he uses three attacks at once
it's da shoes
What do the shoes have to do with Wilford's comment lmao
Randø Bunnie what does that reply have to do with the original comment lol
Each weapon has a unique attack animation and prompt
Y'all realize that this chick had so much determination in her naturally that when she was dying she was melting like the failed projects like that's some deep shit right there.
This reminds of the fight in dragon age in the elf orphanage one of the elves defending the place is a ghost and keeps yelling "I can't die I can never die" like they died fighting so determined they don't even know they died.
“Looks like free EXP”
Me, who’s sick of monster kid being annoying: You’re damn right
It’s been years yet I look back on the neutral route Undyne fight and am still saddened, she is determined to keep alive and defend her people, but as a result ends up killing herself as Monsters aren’t able to handle Determination
What do you think those attacks are doing? Stall as much as you want, you have to kill her yourslef
Auto correct failed me
*aren’t able to handle determination*
Undyne the undying: you say something?
@@red_reaper1729 To be fair, that version melts too. She just persists longer.
Yeah she is determined here too, this makes her live longer in return for basically melting, she just isn't as determined as in actual genocide where you don't spare mk
The fact that Undyne refuses to stop fighting until her body gives up is really sad (her attacks becoming less dangerous and hit for less damage makes me feel like the biggest jerk in the world).
But you feel even worse when you took those candies
It reminds me of the fight between Lee and Gaara, how even when he fell unconscious his body continued pushing forward on autopilot, because he was *that* determined to try and win.
The fact that she tries her best to even HARM you
Right in the feels man...
Did you notice the final hit wasnt a slash but a foot print. Not only did you not kill her with a blade but you kick her while shes already at her lowest point. All it took to finish her was a kick.
This just goes to show how much toby cared about this little game that he made SO MANY different dialogues depending on how YOU personally play, whether you spare that ONE monster on genocide, or kill only one monster, atleast SOMETHING changes. Thats how much toby fox cared.
4:12
PERFECTLY TIMED WITH THE MUSIC CHEFS KISS
Need ketchup?
@@Green_Animator that would be appreciated
So monster kid changes your entire route, from genocide to netrual, since it requires only killing toriel, papyrus, and undyne and few monsters
e. i killed everyone EXCEPT hitting monster kid... i spared him cuz i was noob......
I mean kill anyone and it triggers neutral ending
Killing only the possible ones. Since monster kid ran away, the player can no longer kill him/her.
It only takes one kill boss or not
@@selenium3447 well..no you have to do it in the ruins first killing the first froggit and each monster in next area right after toriel kill each you encounter in that exact room until your battle says..but nobody came but also make sure to save at the save point just incase yt videos also help i know this was year ago but still.
She was so determined, she almost became an amalgamate..
Actually, technically, she did become an amalgamate. She jus died much earlier than the ones in the lab because she has a TON of determination, and her body couldn’t handle it. The ones in the lab were carefully injected with certain amounts of DT.
@@ShadowSkull1240 inb4 undyne is the first amalgamate to die
does undyne count as one, though? she isn't fused with a monster yet, but she sure is melting down like one
@@ShadowSkull1240 the amalgamates would have died as well but they melted with themselves to have bodies strong enough to stand the determation they were inyected
I mean look at endogeny it's at least 10 dogs in there
Or snowdrakes mom ? She's 16 monsters fused into one
Undyne had no one to melt with and well....You all Saw what happened
@@auugh43546 they only merged because came in contact with each other while the melted state, that’s how they merged.
Amalgamates require more than 1 monster to form @@ShadowSkull1240
*spares someone who you can’t even kill*
Undertale: _NEUTRAL ROUTE_
The way her attacks get slower and slower the more her form gets unstable is just..saddening.. She's dying still but she's losing strength...
2:58 when you get hit and it gets you off guard
True
Dark Pony263 that does happen that happened to me when I was fighting undyne the undyne true heroin when she had the giant heart on her chest aldo I didn't beat sans yet
Dante605 ms10000 dude if you beat undyne sans is not that bad. All the youtube were overreacting. It was actually easier than undyne I don't know why
Vajoj Gamer yes, cause sans rythm is more predictable and you'll always get the same "ending attack" on sans so... yh
Well Sans only seems hard cause you have the move at the right time and can't miss a single jump without raging
I can't do genocide run, it's just to depressing and soul crushing
Or you just can't beat a certain enemy..
Genocide makes meh sad.. pacifist route ftw!
Joe6168 for me i wanted to do genocide because it makes me feel good for all the times the monsters kill me and i get payback
Joe6168 even if I started one I'd chicken out, successfully making the situation worse by making a a neutral
I think undyne's fight is the main reason I can't do neutral either
“It’s just to depressing and *soul crushing”*
Literally.
Undyne: I WON’T DIE!
Also Undyne: *Dies
💫lol💫👌🏻
damn, i was wondering what the melting undyne sprite was. i've seen it a million times in undertale corruptions, but never in regular undertale.
I love how Undyne's attacks gradually get slower...
Your own attacks mirroring hers as you become more reluctant to fight back.
Madame Jelly That actually got me super depressed when even the text in the box says "..." because goddamn you see someone giving it all to protect their whole world and they fail... God. Dammit.
So that's why everything was slowing down, I thought it was lag lol
necro lycan Same
necro lycan
But if you do the Pacifist run first then you get MORE attached!
Chara doesn't want to see Undyne die. They're trying to stop Frisk from killing her. She's their idol.
"looks like free EXP"
come on now, that was uncalled for...
But it’s true
Seven years later and I still think about this game regularly
This video still going strong in 2024. I just beat Sans the other night and now I can finally watch all these Undertale videos.
So horrifying. The only thing chara has to say is *in my way...*
Like murdering this kid is just an obstacle
srgtgunner. suuuuuure. And make no comment on when you check monster kid it says "looks like free EXP"
Yea but the scary part for me is how Chara doesnt even take the time to acknowledge the kid, or doesnt even form a full sentence, just,
*In my way..*
srgtgunner. In my opinion it's supposed to be creepy like that. I mean you ARE a genocidal maniac.
Technically everyone is just ''an obstical'' in Chara's eyes
@@commandercornflakes3786 Chara is only like that once you feed them with lv, if you have basically no soul and you are filled with hatred of course you'll be evil. The real villain is the player imo. Chara can be good in pacifist run (there's a lot of proof that they narrate everything)
Wow, just when you really think you saw everything this game had to offer, Toby has made something that you never knew before.
I'm surprised no one knew about this. I found this on my first run when I thought I was supposed to kill everyone but Toriel.
coolman5242 I killed Undyne in a neutral run thinking i do genocide...
Still no regrets.
2018 and I’m still discovering new things about Undertale. Lots of weird stuff with Gaster, and his followers. So many hidden gems that you’d have to play hundreds of times in order to see.
Dang, I’ve never actually seen the dialogue from Undyne after you spare monster kid instead of killing him.. In some ways I actually prefer it over the other scene of her sacrificing herself to save him.
We get to see her stop and grieve over Papyrus, and she turns that into a greater motive to kill you. Not only that, she also brings up Sans not being around- which is a good reminder that something’s still going on with him, he hasn’t just disappeared after the death of his brother. Really cool stuff.
Man when I was young I didn't realise how dark this game is but now I realise it
Oh so if you spare monster kid on a genocide run undyne doesn't become undyne the undying?
W O A H T E C H N O L O G Y
You spared monster kid, therefore there is technically good in you. Therefore undyne wants to access her full power, but can’t because you aren’t evil, rather just “defending yourself”
So your saying.. If I delibiretly go out of my way to kill every monster in The ruins, waterfall, and snowdin as well as toriel and Papyrus... And just spare monster kid. I’m not doing genocide anymore
I mean think about it Monster kid lives either way
Spare him
Attack him
He still lives.
So you should be able to turn it back into genocide after killing undyne ,besides You Erase the world at the end
Otaku HikariSan because it counts as a neutral run.
YGuy1 but dude, monster kid doesn’t die, and either you save him. You spare him or you try to kill him Either, way Undyne saves him. So there’s no point...
@@vaasmontenegro2016 Sorry I played the game in all endings, and if you spare monster kid the ending go's to neutral. A true genocide run doesn't spare *anyone*
So... when you spare monster kid , genocide route will automattically change to neutral route.
Interesting🤔...
2020: another old comment. I also thought this was someone else's comment. Lol
Yeah Genocide is supposed to be you going on a literal rampage and killing every possible thing you see, showing absolutely no aigns of remorse or faltering. But if you spare anyone, that darkness of destroying the whole world disappears, because you dropped an opportunity to kill someone
A Random Dude actually if you spare anyone it turns back to neutral mode
Oh thanks
I’m stupid and screw it up
@@isaaccooper862 You can spare Jerry.
Undyne's theme battle is still a banger even after so many years
You really showed the one unique part and then just the whole Undyne fight huh
Didn’t notice how easy this was compared to Undyne the Undying in genocide
Actually this invalidates genocide because you spared MK. Sorry to burst your bubble
@@mintpanda1372 Oh my god I'm an idiot, I did the wrong comment. I am so sorry!
"this is the wrong comment, the wrong comment song!"
@•【Akova】• "Oh it's the wrong number, the wrong number song!"
that's kind of depressing
Kind of? This is super depressing ;-;
Isabel Arantes ahh.. good point
Nyra Crimson she turns part amalgamite when she dies
Tailsthefox999 AJ no she just melts. An amalgamation is when other monsters melt onto each other and become one
Me: Look at my face, do I look like I'm sad?!
(Inside) *chaos* WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyy (it fills you with depression ) YyYyYyYywyaisjhwhaizoqlkwmhua
i can still hear the sound of my keyboard being destroyed
this video just changes from a theory video into a walkthrough video