Winterreise Wednesdays! (No. 7: A Really Bad One)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ย. 2024
  • Schubert: Die Winterreise. Hans Jörg Mammel (tenor), Arthur Schoonderwoerd (fortepiano) Alpha

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  • @Tenortalker
    @Tenortalker หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am now intrigued to hear some of this 'Horrorreise.' Thank you Dave!
    Someone was mentioning the Shura Gherman/ Walker recording. I think that started out with its heart in the right place , kind of , but the vocal choices are bizarre. For example what are those awful , lunging, pushed crescendos all over the place which destroy the vocal line. If they are supposed to be 'Mesa di voce' type crescendo / diminuendos they do not work as they are laid on with a trowel, pushed to extremes.
    I am very fond of the Ernst Haefliger / Jorg Ewald Dahler recording. It may not be the most famous , but I take pleasure in listening to it because everything, both singing and playing , is so musical and flowing. You can feel the chill of the Leierman's 'starren fingern' or the hope of a letter from a lover , followed by disappointment when the postman has nothing to give in Die Post. It all seems so natural and spontaneous in the storytelling.

  • @petterw5318
    @petterw5318 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The voice has an enormous reverb and it's in the background, like he's singing in a chapel.

  • @loganfruchtman953
    @loganfruchtman953 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I feel like Schonderwood should get fortepiano lessons

  • @MusicologistJohn
    @MusicologistJohn หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Please review the max von Egmond and Jos van Immerseel (on fortepiano) on Channel Classics. You might enjoy this "authentic" performance better.

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Andreas Staier/Pregardien will do just fine.

    • @loganfruchtman953
      @loganfruchtman953 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DavesClassicalGuide His Diabelli variations is such an awesome disc.

  • @johnanderton4200
    @johnanderton4200 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've always thought the key to Picasso's success is that he joined a movement conceived by someone else (Dadaism; Cubism; Surrealism...), did the best and most iconic examples, and then left the group before it became passe. Rote application of an idea undercuts its meaning and newness, and that happens with HIP as with anything else.

  • @murraylow4523
    @murraylow4523 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dear me! Stick with Staier then , if you want the older instrument…

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Absolutely.

    • @loganfruchtman953
      @loganfruchtman953 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Staier is a really good keyboardist

    • @murraylow4523
      @murraylow4523 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@loganfruchtman953 he sure is, Logan, wish I’d kept more of his stuff really. I gather he’s been ill so fingers crossed I suppose…

  • @zzzland1
    @zzzland1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting review. However, not sure why you felt the need to mispronounce the artist’s name.

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because if I tried to do it correctly I would be ridiculed anyway, so I might as well have some fun with it.

  • @misterflamingo
    @misterflamingo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yup, went to give it a listen. Piano sounds like banging cooking pans together. Reverb is bathroomy... weird choices made there. 😅
    Also recently discovered Gerhard Hüsch and Hanns Udo Müller. Husch has an amazing voice! Sadly the sonics are a bit old.