Pilgrimage is a very important way of re-dedication to the Divine and a marvelous kinesthetic way to embrace the sacred and to realize that in fact our body is the temple of God as St. Paul stated in his letters to the Corinthians. Bless you Rupert for your effort to bring back the pilgrims path.
Thank you Marc, and Rupert who is always such a delight. I just love your comments about Trump, Rupert. I don't think I have ever heard you be so less than perfectly charming about someone before. Wonderful discussion. Also, Rupert said he was old. I disagree; he just shines with joy, curiosity and perennial youthfulness, particularly in this session. 😍 (the game is pin the tail on the donkey)
The existence of suffering and evil can be reconciled by adopting Shakespeares idea of the World; "All the World's a stage and we are merely players". Alan Watts described it as an enormous cosmic drama. In a good drama you have to have everything - good people, bad people, happiness and bliss, pain and suffering. At the end of our lives, we have all played our part, whatever that may have been and again, using the drama analogy, everybody gets a round of applause at the end of the play - even Donald Trump! So, for everyone, at the end of your life the Divine Love is revealed to you, no matter what your part was. St Julian of Norwich, one of my favourite mystics said; "All will be well and all will be well, and all manner of things will be well"
I really enjoyed this conversation Rupert and Marc. Thank you both ....nature is so integral to my spiritual experience and im so pleased with Rupert's inspiration for the return of pilgrimage ❤❤❤❤1💯💫
I love your talks with jiddu krishnamurthi.... Sir, have you find the balance of what is action vs non action or action out of fear or action out of love?
Upon reading the title, I immediately thought of Goethe’s quote: “nature is the living visible garment of God.” To go beyond mere sensory impressions to a perception of the divine inter-penetrating all visible matter.
DISTINGUISHING SUFFERING FROM PAIN, AND LIKEWISE, HAPPINESS FROM PLEASURE: To understand the nature of suffering, it is ABSOLUTELY imperative to first distinguish suffering from pain (and also, happiness from pleasure). There is a spectrum of pleasure and pain, with an extremely narrow neutral mid-point. Obviously, what constitutes a pleasurable or painful experience is dependent on an individual person’s unique preferences. Not everybody likes the taste of chocolate. The feeling of pleasure/pain does NOT, ultimately, come from any external stimulus, believe it or not. It is located entirely in the mind and/or the intellect. This is the reason why highly-advanced spiritual adepts are able to renounce practically all pleasure-seeking activities, content with consuming simple foodstuffs and with adequate sleep, and find continuous peace, happiness, and joy within themselves (“ātmarāma” or “sva-sthaḥ”, in Sanskrit). Furthermore, the adjudication of whether a certain experience is either pleasurable or painful for any particular person can VARY according to the context. For example, one may have enjoyed consuming dairy products as a child, but as a *vegetarian/vegan adult, find the taste of putrefied milk (cream, cheese, yoghurt, butter, etcetera) to be revolting. For one who is literally dying of starvation, the consumption of bitter melon or cactus leaves may seem to be rather pleasing to the senses, even though, in normal circumstances, they may be quite distasteful. *The term “vegetarian” is used literally here (that is, “one who subsists [exclusively] on vegetation”). THE THREE KINDS OF PLEASURE AND PAIN: There are THREE kinds of pleasure/pain: physical, psychological (i.e. mental/emotional/intellectual), and financial. For instance, consuming one’s favourite kind of fruit is physically pleasurable. Being hit on the head by a falling coconut - physical pain. Listening to a favourite piece of music is an example of psycho-emotional pleasure. Being angry at another person - psychological pain. Winning a game of chance (such as a lottery) is an example of financial pleasure. Being robbed of one’s cash or belongings - financial pain. The reason why financial pleasure or financial pain is not classified in the category of psychological pleasure/pain is because when a person experiences either a loss or a gain in his or her finances, it does not NECESSARILY result in a feeling of pleasure or pain. For example, in 1993, a violent criminal organization, known as the “Australian Federal Police”, literally stole a rather large sum of cash that I had laboriously collected, by conducting alms rounds as a monastic priest. However, upon being informed that my money was to be confiscated by that evil organization, I had absolutely no negative feelings whatsoever. I was perfectly at peace with the situation, something that surprised even myself! However, the loss of my funds was, by definition, painful in the sense that it decimated my bank balance, and I was forced to repeat the months of alms collection, in order to pay my bills and to fund my first pilgrimage to Bhārata (India). So, it was financially painful but not emotionally painful. THE THREE CAUSES OF PLEASURE AND PAIN: There are three origins or CAUSES of pleasure/pain: one’s own body/mind (“adhyātma”, in Sanskrit), other persons/animals (“adhibhūta”, in Sanskrit), and material nature (“adhidaiva”, in Sanskrit). Hopefully, these categories are self-explanatory. Some “suffer” pain from lack of money. Others “suffer” pain from an abundance of wealth. Some “suffer” pain from lack of food. Others “suffer” pain from an abundance of food. The quality of the “suffering” is different but the NATURE of the “suffering” is the same. OBVIOUSLY, in the previous paragraph, the term “suffer” is used in the stead of “experience”, because that is how the word is used in everyday parlance, in order to draw attention to the fact that pain can be due to an abundance of material opulence as well as a lack of material wealth.
As an human who cares for the self and the whole, accepting evilness and wickedness upon the land is why the West is being destroyed within and without. Radical acceptance is not a path forward, but a type of ignorance. Striving for what one desires and needs, matters more than radical acceptance. Emotions, feelings do not simply shut off by command. Many people who are professionals have a lot of self control. Still their feelings may motivate passive aggression or gaslighting. These are some of the problems with what you all are doing to the psyches of the People. Radical acceptance of bureaucratic tyrannies and corporate control does not aid humanity. Why is being ordinary the goal? Excessive conformity I another reason the West is ailing...what you all do to make the world serve your interests, ignoring our voices.
Incidentally, I have prayed in prayer groups with regular experienced "prayer warriors." I became a seasoned prayer from praying and further associating with these people. When exercising prayers of petition, I noticed that if a person simultaneously concentrates on having an open heart and an unwavering mind, this concentration prepares the person to exist more in the universal ground of being in everyday life. Praying rosaries and litanies in this way prepares the prayer to positively affect others by their mere presence.
Well….you look at that bird (they fling about the paradigm shift) Can you explain.. or at least throw it back to them..well hang on a moment..what do you understand about a paridigm shift?? They have not got a clue what this is…
Well if you look into the Cormorant eye, or even more so, it’s cousin the Shag..now that goes deeper.. way deeper.. Milton didn’t actually nail it! However.. where would God lie on that timescale? Beginning of time..aha.. of course..a belief.. a myth. Look into its eye.. no one created that!!!!
É muito simples: Há uma Consciência Superior, que chamamos "Deus", que criou de Si a nossa Consciência individual e todo o Universo. E tem um Objetivo Final para Ele mesmo.
Never feel guilty about sex, there's nothing wrong with. The situation could be a problem. no commandment said sex is a sin, thou shall not covet thy neighbors wife. pretty specific.
I think atheism is compatible with God the Father as the unmanifested Word (John 1)! That's why the Word was only the same as God in the beginning. After that the Word became manifested as God's "only begotten son", Christ which has created everything (again John 1). A word is changeless, like Brahman and a word is a string of information (atheism). The Father is infinite and Christ is always finite and (going to the Father as the truth and the way and the life).
? if the speed of light is slowing and constants of nature changing.planck constant.charge of the electton ..,what predictions can be made?? ...trying to bring rupert back to science here as he has a tendency to go off into hippy dippy shit
Pilgrimage is a very important way of re-dedication to the Divine and a marvelous kinesthetic way to embrace the sacred and to realize that in fact our body is the temple of God as St. Paul stated in his letters to the Corinthians. Bless you Rupert for your effort to bring back the pilgrims path.
the way rupert explained his view on destruction and creation has been a paradigm shift for me. Thank you for your insights!
Thank you Marc, and Rupert who is always such a delight. I just love your comments about Trump, Rupert. I don't think I have ever heard you be so less than perfectly charming about someone before. Wonderful discussion. Also, Rupert said he was old. I disagree; he just shines with joy, curiosity and perennial youthfulness, particularly in this session. 😍 (the game is pin the tail on the donkey)
Fabulous conversation! Thanks Rupert & Marc!
Divine synchronicity that I should happen upon this only 1 hour after its post!
💜🙏 💜 thank you for speaking the language of my 💜
That's what the TH-cam algorithm will do...
So cool, so well educated, so wise.
Rupert Sheldrake 🙏
A blessing to have access to these kinds of conversations. Thanks. Hot and Cold Game. No special name in English or French - Froid/Chaud.
soo beautiful,thank you..
Thank you so much for your thoughts and words.
The existence of suffering and evil can be reconciled by adopting Shakespeares idea of the World; "All the World's a stage and we are merely players". Alan Watts described it as an enormous cosmic drama. In a good drama you have to have everything - good people, bad people, happiness and bliss, pain and suffering. At the end of our lives, we have all played our part, whatever that may have been and again, using the drama analogy, everybody gets a round of applause at the end of the play - even Donald Trump! So, for everyone, at the end of your life the Divine Love is revealed to you, no matter what your part was. St Julian of Norwich, one of my favourite mystics said; "All will be well and all will be well, and all manner of things will be well"
Rupert, jou'r last statement was a very understatement.
Love you both 😍
Gdtsd
I really enjoyed this conversation Rupert and Marc. Thank you both ....nature is so integral to my spiritual experience and im so pleased with Rupert's inspiration for the return of pilgrimage ❤❤❤❤1💯💫
Amazing
I don't like the interviewer but it's always a pleasure to listen to Rupert 😊
mirror effects, providing gifts ✨
I love your talks with jiddu krishnamurthi.... Sir, have you find the balance of what is action vs non action or action out of fear or action out of love?
Upon reading the title, I immediately thought of Goethe’s quote: “nature is the living visible garment of God.” To go beyond mere sensory impressions to a perception of the divine inter-penetrating all visible matter.
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As a therapist there’s a formula we may use as part of Radical Acceptance: Pain + non-acceptance = suffering. Pain + acceptance = ordinary pain.
DISTINGUISHING SUFFERING FROM PAIN, AND LIKEWISE, HAPPINESS FROM PLEASURE:
To understand the nature of suffering, it is ABSOLUTELY imperative to first distinguish suffering from pain (and also, happiness from pleasure).
There is a spectrum of pleasure and pain, with an extremely narrow neutral mid-point. Obviously, what constitutes a pleasurable or painful experience is dependent on an individual person’s unique preferences. Not everybody likes the taste of chocolate. The feeling of pleasure/pain does NOT, ultimately, come from any external stimulus, believe it or not. It is located entirely in the mind and/or the intellect. This is the reason why highly-advanced spiritual adepts are able to renounce practically all pleasure-seeking activities, content with consuming simple foodstuffs and with adequate sleep, and find continuous peace, happiness, and joy within themselves (“ātmarāma” or “sva-sthaḥ”, in Sanskrit).
Furthermore, the adjudication of whether a certain experience is either pleasurable or painful for any particular person can VARY according to the context. For example, one may have enjoyed consuming dairy products as a child, but as a *vegetarian/vegan adult, find the taste of putrefied milk (cream, cheese, yoghurt, butter, etcetera) to be revolting. For one who is literally dying of starvation, the consumption of bitter melon or cactus leaves may seem to be rather pleasing to the senses, even though, in normal circumstances, they may be quite distasteful.
*The term “vegetarian” is used literally here (that is, “one who subsists [exclusively] on vegetation”).
THE THREE KINDS OF PLEASURE AND PAIN:
There are THREE kinds of pleasure/pain: physical, psychological (i.e. mental/emotional/intellectual), and financial.
For instance, consuming one’s favourite kind of fruit is physically pleasurable. Being hit on the head by a falling coconut - physical pain.
Listening to a favourite piece of music is an example of psycho-emotional pleasure. Being angry at another person - psychological pain.
Winning a game of chance (such as a lottery) is an example of financial pleasure. Being robbed of one’s cash or belongings - financial pain.
The reason why financial pleasure or financial pain is not classified in the category of psychological pleasure/pain is because when a person experiences either a loss or a gain in his or her finances, it does not NECESSARILY result in a feeling of pleasure or pain. For example, in 1993, a violent criminal organization, known as the “Australian Federal Police”, literally stole a rather large sum of cash that I had laboriously collected, by conducting alms rounds as a monastic priest. However, upon being informed that my money was to be confiscated by that evil organization, I had absolutely no negative feelings whatsoever. I was perfectly at peace with the situation, something that surprised even myself! However, the loss of my funds was, by definition, painful in the sense that it decimated my bank balance, and I was forced to repeat the months of alms collection, in order to pay my bills and to fund my first pilgrimage to Bhārata (India). So, it was financially painful but not emotionally painful.
THE THREE CAUSES OF PLEASURE AND PAIN:
There are three origins or CAUSES of pleasure/pain: one’s own body/mind (“adhyātma”, in Sanskrit), other persons/animals (“adhibhūta”, in Sanskrit), and material nature (“adhidaiva”, in Sanskrit). Hopefully, these categories are self-explanatory.
Some “suffer” pain from lack of money. Others “suffer” pain from an abundance of wealth.
Some “suffer” pain from lack of food. Others “suffer” pain from an abundance of food.
The quality of the “suffering” is different but the NATURE of the “suffering” is the same.
OBVIOUSLY, in the previous paragraph, the term “suffer” is used in the stead of “experience”, because that is how the word is used in everyday parlance, in order to draw attention to the fact that pain can be due to an abundance of material opulence as well as a lack of material wealth.
Thank you for sharing 🧡
I’m glad I read this 🧡
As an human who cares for the self and the whole, accepting evilness and wickedness upon the land is why the West is being destroyed within and without. Radical acceptance is not a path forward, but a type of ignorance. Striving for what one desires and needs, matters more than radical acceptance.
Emotions, feelings do not simply shut off by command.
Many people who are professionals have a lot of self control. Still their feelings may motivate passive aggression or gaslighting. These are some of the problems with what you all are doing to the psyches of the People.
Radical acceptance of bureaucratic tyrannies and corporate control does not aid humanity.
Why is being ordinary the goal? Excessive conformity I another reason the West is ailing...what you all do to make the world serve your interests, ignoring our voices.
I've come across items that "fell off the back of a lorry", but never before one that fell off the back of a bus!
😅 because in england they still have the old red busses that at the back are open!
@@K22channel I'm joking. It's an English joke. (But yes, the London double deckers are designed that way.)
@@jamesboswell9324 thanks 😊 I am Italian and I used to live in London.
1992 to 1998 .. that is why I know only few jokes 😅now I know one more.
Incidentally, I have prayed in prayer groups with regular experienced "prayer warriors." I became a seasoned prayer from praying and further associating with these people. When exercising prayers of petition, I noticed that if a person simultaneously concentrates on having an open heart and an unwavering mind, this concentration prepares the person to exist more in the universal ground of being in everyday life. Praying rosaries and litanies in this way prepares the prayer to positively affect others by their mere presence.
beautiful
42:09
Blind Man's Buff is what that game is called in England.
Proximity and god is one🙏🌎🙏
It is sad to see very less likes and views on this video.
Oak tree as majesty
Rupert.. we love the Cormorant.. Eye to eye what do you see??
Well….you look at that bird (they fling about the paradigm shift) Can you explain.. or at least throw it back to them..well hang on a moment..what do you understand about a paridigm shift?? They have not got a clue what this is…
Have you heard of Vahinger… now I know you have..,but has your questioner??
Well if you look into the Cormorant eye, or even more so, it’s cousin the Shag..now that goes deeper.. way deeper.. Milton didn’t actually nail it! However.. where would God lie on that timescale? Beginning of time..aha.. of course..a belief.. a myth. Look into its eye.. no one created that!!!!
13. dakikadan sonra türkçe altyazı kapandı😔
É muito simples:
Há uma Consciência Superior, que chamamos "Deus", que criou de Si a nossa Consciência individual e todo o Universo. E tem um Objetivo Final para Ele mesmo.
DAVVERO!!!!
DAVVERO!!!!
Believe and knowing is not the same,I’m sort of stating the obvious but it’s not obvious to many 🙏🌎🙏
Which God are we alluding to? God who?
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depends on which definition of "God";
if the definition is infinidimensional infinities;
not realizing God is part of realizing God;
Never feel guilty about sex, there's nothing wrong with. The situation could be a problem. no commandment said sex is a sin, thou shall not covet thy neighbors wife.
pretty specific.
I don't like drugs.
Mr Sheldrake we thank you. You are a Dude Like it or not.. Keith and Helen. Triue dudes dont try manifest as dudes.....
Sheldrake has it wrong. God is also supernatural, that is outside of nature. That is why there are miracles, that defy nature.
I think atheism is compatible with God the Father as the unmanifested Word (John 1)! That's why the Word was only the same as God in the beginning. After that the Word became manifested as God's "only begotten son", Christ which has created everything (again John 1). A word is changeless, like Brahman and a word is a string of information (atheism). The Father is infinite and Christ is always finite and (going to the Father as the truth and the way and the life).
Goodness!
? if the speed of light is slowing and constants of nature changing.planck constant.charge of the electton ..,what predictions can be made?? ...trying to bring rupert back to science here as he has a tendency to go off into hippy dippy shit
Weirdness of Trump? Pot meet Kettle.