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@@sestican4666 I dont remember the vk3601h being a med But I never rlly paid attention to it and kept confusing it with the vk3001H so idk But I can backup OP's comment, the VK 3001P was definitely a fast med tank back then
And a fast one that could reach 60+ kph. This was my go-to tournament/skirmish tank. Still great as a heavy, traded mobility for HP, but it was a better medium.
@otheruser-x7f No it was a medium like 10 years ago. I forget what patch it was when it got changed into a heavy though. Edit, looked it up it was patch 8.8 it was changed.
The Panzer 4 H used to be my primary credit maker back when I didn't have any premiums. Also, due its spaced side armor, it was pne of the few tanks that could somewhat survive against a KV2 HE shell compared to the sherman
Also, what is fun with the VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A, is doing nose-poking(just present nose, bit hide drive wheel) like an amx or pz-VII, bait a shot that will bounce, then deliver a shot. The nose of that thing is SOLID.And the tier 9 had my 9k block record for a LONG time, that thing holds up at range. The way the B can just hold a line/ funnel is amazing
Owning the VK (k) should give you access to this tank's gun. It's literally the exact same tank. I don't care if I have to buy the gun at 2 million credits. Just give me access to it on my VK (k) because im not buying a whole new tank just for a different gun.
@@8-.-8 +10/-10% difference in armor/mobility does not count. In all aspects they're the exact same except for the gun which is cheap way to add a "new" tank that already exists.
Back when vk 30 01 p was a med it was an absolute beast, imo the best tier 6 tech tree med. Nowadays it's still alright, but the speed nerf killed it somewhat
The VK 4502 A was always a heavium, I enjoyed playing. The buff for it was a rare case of WG buffing a tank, but not overdoing it. Fun to play, can be killed, not OP. I actually bring it in survival Myrium, as a substitute for a Caravan, since the bots have a hard time of penetrating it. And gosh, who remembers the VK 3001 P as a medium? The grind for it is atrocious.
I actually like the Tiger P. You need to play it like the Pz VII. If you peek the same way you do with the Pz VII, you will be able to hide the weak sides on the tiger, only showing the reinforced frontal hull.
I love my PZ VII. - Once you get the funky angling down, you can bait shots into the lower plate & it isn’t hard to consistently farm 4k DPG. I was honestly caught off guard by how many 7k+ Dmg games I’ve had in it.
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I don't care what WG says or what people think. The *VK 30.01 P* is NOT a heavy, it never was and never will. It's been a medium since it came out, and it's still a medium now. WG just made it slower and gave it more HP, didn't touch its "armor". Of which the VK 30 P has never had good armor. It's still a medium, the symbol changed but that tank hardly changed. Still play it like a sniper/flanker medium~
I free exped straight to tier IX VK and realised how dumb I were for not unlocking the top engine. It was one of the most unplayable tank stock, so my experience with it were not so great. The Pz VII however was dumb fun to play with. One thing to note is that, the gun really is bad at snapshotting but once you fully aim, it hits weakspots easily. Additionally, bond turbo and up is mandatory as it gives you less time to wiggle your frontal armor enough to bait shots effectively. An overall good superheavy tank.
hey max, wonderful video but please for the future keep in mind that 9 in roman numerals is IX and not XI (that is 11), it may have been a typo, but i couldn’t help but notice it.
@Micky3TO Apologies in advance if I'm actually incorrect, but when was it turned into a heavy if it was a medium? Everything I find on TH-cam and Google with some of the vids being 7+ years old all portray it as heavy. I also remember grinding out the line for the e100 and remember that was the tank I had to grind through. Vk 30 used to be a med when grinding out the German med line I think... but then changed when the tech tree rework happened...i think
You can play the PZ7 well, angled up in a hull down position and bounce everything. I blocked over 10k in this before the buff, and the Nergal now plays the same
3001P as a medium was pretty bad. Fast enough to get you into big trouble, no armor and big as a house. No one had trouble hitting you. Being so long also made it easy for arty to land shots onto the engine deck. This was back when 4 arty, or more (PER SIDE), was common.
Reminder that the Tiger 1 and Tiger P basically have the same gun but the Tiger 1 have 280 alpha vs 240. Also faster reload and better gun handling. Idk why the hell WG decide to left the Tiger P gun as still 240 even though its basically the same damn gun.
29:20 xD in times when 90% of players play full gold and 340-420 penetration per shell, no angle on the lower plate will help you, I did over 1000 battles with this tank and I say it's not a good idea
I would agree with everything exept on VK B being good. It's average at best, and when compared to E 75 it has basicly nothing to offer. It should have 530 alpha like E 75 then it would be good in my opinion.
old vk 30.01 P was absolutely broken it was beast with good mobility good gun just everything was pretty much fun like the old tiger P very decent tank for my opinion ! my games with the vk was fun with high damage per game
grinding that whole line? Psh, no. Some of those tanks are.... *not good*, to put it generously. But, some are also quite good and enjoyable, and the PZ 7 seems to be pretty beastly. Free XP is there for a reason.
Interesting you say this line is so good, what do you think about the premium t8 version? Vk 72.01? I struggle to make it work properly, I think it's the gun.
I love how you gloss over the God awful grind to get past the stock components on the VK45 02 B. Folks, if you can afford it, save yourselves a lot of pain and free XP as much of it as you can.
The tier 5 meme derps are not really that good after the he changes. Tier 4 derps how ever are fun as tier 4 tanks have no armor and are mostly pennable by he.
From tier 5 to tier 8 are absolute shit very slow ,bad armor ,bad guns ,, tier 8 with 200 pen isnt good ffs every tier 8 now is having 220+ pen &400 dmg even prems maybe 9 and 10 are worth playing
I'm at tier 9 and it's a hard "not unles you can freexp literally all modules including tracks and engine. EDIT: The only reason why tier 8 and 9 show red is because their guns suck balls, everyone pens me through the turret straight on. Those 2 tanks suck.
Ur just bad at the game you have to keep moving and know how to angle your tank, I do agree that tier 8 doesn't have a good gun but the rest are normal you just don't know how to use it
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6:02 yes it was. I used to love the tank and used it for credit grinding when i had no premiums
I believe it was the VK.36.01 (H) that was a medium tank at first. It might have been with both of them though...
@@sestican4666 I dont remember the vk3601h being a med
But I never rlly paid attention to it and kept confusing it with the vk3001H so idk
But I can backup OP's comment, the VK 3001P was definitely a fast med tank back then
@@sestican4666 the vk 36.01 was always a heavy
And a fast one that could reach 60+ kph. This was my go-to tournament/skirmish tank. Still great as a heavy, traded mobility for HP, but it was a better medium.
@otheruser-x7f No it was a medium like 10 years ago. I forget what patch it was when it got changed into a heavy though. Edit, looked it up it was patch 8.8 it was changed.
The Panzer 4 H used to be my primary credit maker back when I didn't have any premiums. Also, due its spaced side armor, it was pne of the few tanks that could somewhat survive against a KV2 HE shell compared to the sherman
Also, what is fun with the VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A, is doing nose-poking(just present nose, bit hide drive wheel) like an amx or pz-VII, bait a shot that will bounce, then deliver a shot. The nose of that thing is SOLID.And the tier 9 had my 9k block record for a LONG time, that thing holds up at range. The way the B can just hold a line/ funnel is amazing
Owning the VK (k) should give you access to this tank's gun. It's literally the exact same tank. I don't care if I have to buy the gun at 2 million credits. Just give me access to it on my VK (k) because im not buying a whole new tank just for a different gun.
the VK has better side armour on the hull cheeks, which is unfair
It isn't though.....
@@8-.-8 +10/-10% difference in armor/mobility does not count.
In all aspects they're the exact same except for the gun which is cheap way to add a "new" tank that already exists.
L take 💩
Back when vk 30 01 p was a med it was an absolute beast, imo the best tier 6 tech tree med. Nowadays it's still alright, but the speed nerf killed it somewhat
Yesssss going with 55 speed is sooo sickkk
Yes. I felt like a good when I got the 88 for it, throwing heavy punches around. Now... Its meh.
The VK 4502 A was always a heavium, I enjoyed playing. The buff for it was a rare case of WG buffing a tank, but not overdoing it. Fun to play, can be killed, not OP.
I actually bring it in survival Myrium, as a substitute for a Caravan, since the bots have a hard time of penetrating it.
And gosh, who remembers the VK 3001 P as a medium? The grind for it is atrocious.
I actually like the Tiger P. You need to play it like the Pz VII. If you peek the same way you do with the Pz VII, you will be able to hide the weak sides on the tiger, only showing the reinforced frontal hull.
Play it like the 279
I love my PZ VII. - Once you get the funky angling down, you can bait shots into the lower plate & it isn’t hard to consistently farm 4k DPG.
I was honestly caught off guard by how many 7k+ Dmg games I’ve had in it.
Vk3001p was a medium indeed, and could reach 60km/h at the time.
Yeah, it was great :)
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The battle pass camo is almost a must-have since it visuaully conceals the weak points of the turret base triangle and the sides
but it makes the lower plate looks bigger and easy target to hit from wherever
bruh
@@slimkop4186 But if you angle it correctly, it shouldn't be a problem because it's the thickest lower plate armor (230mm) there
I don't care what WG says or what people think. The *VK 30.01 P* is NOT a heavy, it never was and never will. It's been a medium since it came out, and it's still a medium now. WG just made it slower and gave it more HP, didn't touch its "armor". Of which the VK 30 P has never had good armor.
It's still a medium, the symbol changed but that tank hardly changed. Still play it like a sniper/flanker medium~
I free exped straight to tier IX VK and realised how dumb I were for not unlocking the top engine. It was one of the most unplayable tank stock, so my experience with it were not so great.
The Pz VII however was dumb fun to play with. One thing to note is that, the gun really is bad at snapshotting but once you fully aim, it hits weakspots easily. Additionally, bond turbo and up is mandatory as it gives you less time to wiggle your frontal armor enough to bait shots effectively. An overall good superheavy tank.
hey max, wonderful video but please for the future keep in mind that 9 in roman numerals is IX and not XI (that is 11), it may have been a typo, but i couldn’t help but notice it.
It was a typo
Love this kind of video. I used to have the VK45.02 A many years ago, maybe I'll get it back now. I have the VK 45.02 B and it's one of my favourites.
Vk 36 used to be heavy, vk 30 used to be medium
Both were mediums
@@Micky3TO incorrect
Apologies only vk 30 has changed. Don't have access to the game rn but recent TH-cam uploads of the game still show vk36 as a heavy
@@DiegoGarcia-cg8gr Hows that ? I liked my VK3601 when it was a medium and I was very disappointed when it was turned to heavy. Whats incorrect ?
@Micky3TO Apologies in advance if I'm actually incorrect, but when was it turned into a heavy if it was a medium? Everything I find on TH-cam and Google with some of the vids being 7+ years old all portray it as heavy. I also remember grinding out the line for the e100 and remember that was the tank I had to grind through. Vk 30 used to be a med when grinding out the German med line I think... but then changed when the tech tree rework happened...i think
You can play the PZ7 well, angled up in a hull down position and bounce everything. I blocked over 10k in this before the buff, and the Nergal now plays the same
3001P as a medium was pretty bad. Fast enough to get you into big trouble, no armor and big as a house. No one had trouble hitting you. Being so long also made it easy for arty to land shots onto the engine deck. This was back when 4 arty, or more (PER SIDE), was common.
Reminder that the Tiger 1 and Tiger P basically have the same gun but the Tiger 1 have 280 alpha vs 240. Also faster reload and better gun handling.
Idk why the hell WG decide to left the Tiger P gun as still 240 even though its basically the same damn gun.
tier 9 VK stocks turret was buffed a lot, a while ago i was wondering why i cant pen it like tiger 2's stock turret.
29:20 xD in times when 90% of players play full gold and 340-420 penetration per shell, no angle on the lower plate will help you, I did over 1000 battles with this tank and I say it's not a good idea
the vk was a medium, just look at old youtube videos of it
I would agree with everything exept on VK B being good. It's average at best, and when compared to E 75 it has basicly nothing to offer. It should have 530 alpha like E 75 then it would be good in my opinion.
I always liked this line. Still have the tiger P the vk and the tiwr 9 vk and i love the PZ VII
vk45.02 is good and its only problem is that vk100.01p is right next to it and propably one of the best techtree heavy tanks at tier 8.
Ah yes love hearing Max ranting!
Most of this video is praise!
@@MaxGamingFPS a praising rant!
old vk 30.01 P was absolutely broken it was beast with good mobility good gun just everything was pretty much fun like the old tiger P very decent tank for my opinion ! my games with the vk was fun with high damage per game
@MaxGamingFPS I already have the VK (K) from my glory days. Would you say it is worth using 186k free XP to unlock and buy the Pz VII?
grinding that whole line? Psh, no. Some of those tanks are.... *not good*, to put it generously. But, some are also quite good and enjoyable, and the PZ 7 seems to be pretty beastly. Free XP is there for a reason.
Any reason to get it if I have the VKK? Seems like you can play it with standard ammo on the cheap. VKK requires heat basically
i was surprised by this tank i had amazing games with it
Interesting you say this line is so good, what do you think about the premium t8 version? Vk 72.01? I struggle to make it work properly, I think it's the gun.
Now that, is an awful tank 😂 I like the gun, but that's it.
Stabilizer, vents and aiming fixes the problem
I love how you gloss over the God awful grind to get past the stock components on the VK45 02 B.
Folks, if you can afford it, save yourselves a lot of pain and free XP as much of it as you can.
A tank whose biggest disadvantage is very bad armor, and the advantage is a good gun, what does WG give? a gun buff xD
ha made it in time, praise be!
Damn where was this video when they first discounted this line😂😂😂😂
I'm already at teir IX
oh thank god it is not a shit tank, I spent 50 games in the tier 9 to get the xp, I'm glad that it isn't for nothing
GERMAN FOREHEAD APPLY!
I grinded this line only for the trade in that will happen in the future 😂
The vk reward tonk is better bcoz beg alpha = beg dmg
Why do you not play every tank for one game ?
I will add a game in each for next time and see how it performs.
@@MaxGamingFPS great, thanks 😊
The tier 5 meme derps are not really that good after the he changes. Tier 4 derps how ever are fun as tier 4 tanks have no armor and are mostly pennable by he.
Obj705A better yeah?
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From tier 5 to tier 8 are absolute shit very slow ,bad armor ,bad guns ,, tier 8 with 200 pen isnt good ffs every tier 8 now is having 220+ pen &400 dmg even prems maybe 9 and 10 are worth playing
Vk b tier 11 lol
imo def. not worth it
No, waste of time and credits..
This game lost the fun! Wargaming its all about the money, short battle and contact
bad line with just Pz II and Pz IV H worth playing
First. Hi Max :-)
I'm at tier 9 and it's a hard "not unles you can freexp literally all modules including tracks and engine.
EDIT: The only reason why tier 8 and 9 show red is because their guns suck balls, everyone pens me through the turret straight on. Those 2 tanks suck.
Ur just bad at the game you have to keep moving and know how to angle your tank, I do agree that tier 8 doesn't have a good gun but the rest are normal you just don't know how to use it
nah maus better