Hi everyone! I wanted to correct an error in the video. During the voiceover, I mistakenly mentioned that the battery runtime is 30 hours without backlighting. However, it’s actually 800 hours without backlighting and 30 hours with it. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused, and a big thank you to the viewer who brought this to my attention.
Is it sad that leoxz feels alot like these? But i love archer so much. But its funny the grips and everything feels like the leoxz. Even the profile of the wheel thickness is similiar.
I'm so bad at putting on decals and stickers that the interchangeable buttons would be worth the price alone Imo.. Fantastic idea and great review as always
My dream would be they just make the interchageable caps with anodized aluminum with laser engraving, ditch the RGB shit and increase the battery life to 800hrs.
I just bought the ascher f28-sc v2 because I got it on a black friday deal for 599 Euros. Do you think the MCLAREN ARTURA SPORT is worth the 230 Euros more for its quit shifters and the 300 mm diameter?
@@simracingden So I went with the f28-sc v2, personally I'm not a fan of blacklit buttons, as they distract me. The quiet shifters don't matter to me and the charging socket makes it more vulnerable to damage and it's 300g heavier which should not be underestimated - the f28 is a tank that already proved it's worth. The only thing I kinda envy is the 300mm diameter, but's it's not worth 230 Euros more in my opinion. It's a great wheel and I think everybody who owns it will be happy, but I really fell in love with the simplicity of the f28.
Thank you for the great review. I must admit that I think about this steering wheel all the time. But in the back of my mind it has products that I also think are beneficial to buy or look at. I would love to see a comparison sometime : Ascher Racing's McLaren Pro USB vs the upcoming Bavarian Alpha USB vx Grid MPX USB vs GSI Hyper SL USB vs Leoxz XGT Pro USB. The Leoxz XGT Pro seems to benefit greatly from the purchase and I suspect it doesn't stand out from the other brands that much at all. I hope one day there will be a shop in my country where I can compare everything myself.
GRID MPX is great wheel too its my go-to all the time. Don't like the grips on GSI as much, haven't tried Bavarian but should be getting one for review soon. and haven't tried Leoxz XGT yet. I wish it was easier for people to try all these wheels first too but its difficult I guess.
Hi Dan, great and informativ Review. I own the Ascher F28 and would upgrade to a Mclaren Wheel in der Future. Did you notice a huge Difference between the 285 mm Diameter from the F28 to the 300 mm diameter from the Mclaren Wheels? As you say, a lot of Racing Wheels have that 300 mm size.
You know, I was going to pull the trigger on a GSI wheel just last week, but there's two things that stopped me. The first is that I don't like the tactile feel of the buttons they use, it doesn't feel premium - they immediately click quite rigidly. The v1 GSI FPE had way better buttons, but the rotary encoders on that wheel were very cheap feeling and undefined. The second thing I didn't like is that they don't use multi-position switches - just plain old rotary encoders that send a pulse to the CPU to tell it a position has changed and I'm sorry, but that's just cutting corner for no good reason. If I'm paying the premium price they're asking, no corners should be cut.
NO! The Sport is worth $699 tops and the Pro is $799 tops. I dont care how "High end " the components are... NO CF and only use Billet Aluminum. The cost to produce doesn't warrant the price AT ALL
i was sooo hyped for these and was saving money to get one, and then they delayed the usb versions ... black friday just passed and now i`m a gsi hyper p1 owner, so far no "ragrets"
How they compare to the F64 v3 though? The only thing I could catch is the more subtle shifters but not sure if those an upgrade on any other aspects? (LED excluded of course)
The Pro-SC does provide an upgrade on not only the shifters (silenced, now free of any play, double shifters) and backlight buttons with interchangeable button caps, but also the wheel now comes with 4 thumb encoders (with updated placement) and a 300mm diameter (compared to 285mm on the F64). Additionally, the overall build-quality has been improved as well. :)
I'm actually suprised by the times of battery usage vs charging, are you sure the numbers are correct? 15-30 hours driving, and 6 hours charging for that..? My f28 v2 goes for 2-3 years on a small replaceble battery.. What happened there?
They switched out battery to a rechargeable one vs the 14250 replaceable batteries think it has something to do with backlighting obviously needs something that can be recharged.
@@simracingden I guess so too. Just looked it up, it's 800h without the lights, so all the lights are really punishing battery life.. Nice review by the way, thanks!
@@simracingdeni wanted wireless model which support simhub telemetry, to map rpm buttons and also car on left or right side overtaking me. Seems beed to wait for usb model 😢
I noticed a mittle mistake in the review... on the Ascher Website it says that the Wheels battery runs up to 800 hours without backlight and up to 30 hours with backlight th-cam.com/video/NeQVMIBqMZc/w-d-xo.html
Sorry you’re correct I must have misspoke when recording the voice over. Thanks for catching that. It’s frustrating because I try to be very careful with the details. Thanks.
@@simracingden No problem. The review is very good and with lot of details. Cant wait to get this into my hands =D. In an other review they say, that when the battery runs low with backlights on, the automaticaly lights go off and then the battery still holds up for around 30 hours. Can you confirm that?
Doesn’t work properly in AMS2 for me. Upper shifter not recognized and right rotary in shiftmode neither. Ac and acc works fine with it. Have you tried ams2 with it?
Having the thumb encoders where they should be, immediately makes the McLaren wheel worth the extra to me. Also I prefer the button placements and the rotary’s more clearly indicate the position.
It depends on how important having the display is to you. Do you drive mostly GT or Formula and LMP style cars where having a dash on the wheel makes sense? Also, consider your seating position to see the display correctly. The sports and pro models of the Artura series are outstanding. Expect the ultimate to be the same but just with a screen.
Big difference is Ascher’s is wireless if you own a Simucube wheelbase whereas grid needs to be connected to a power box then usb to PC. Stickers on MPX vs aschers button caps. Some may issue with one or other so comes down to personal preference but I much prefer button caps now having tried them.
@@simracingden Yeah, button caps are a great idea. Never liked stickers. The tough choice is that I am getting an Invicta base and the Ascher wheel is not available in the USB version yet. So I may go with an MPX. I am sure it is a fantastic wheel regardless, but I do wish the connection was via a simple USB.
@@CynicalManInBlack Not a fan of the MPX not using multi position switches and in a product that's asking for a premium price, cutting corners is not good enough in my opinion.
It's probably a bit redundant unless you just enjoy collecting different wheels. If I had to choose between the two, I would pick my MPX still every time.
It's challenging to compare since they're quite different types of wheels, but when it comes to build quality, both brands excel and offer really impressive wheels. The Hyper P1 might be better compared to the upcoming ultimate version with a display. One aspect I prefer about the Ascher is the interchangeable button caps, whereas on the Hyper P1, they're fixed as set by the factory.
If your cable is long enough and has some slack, it should be fine. But I agree, it's something to handle carefully and not something you'd want to do frequently, in my opinion.
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Hi everyone! I wanted to correct an error in the video. During the voiceover, I mistakenly mentioned that the battery runtime is 30 hours without backlighting. However, it’s actually 800 hours without backlighting and 30 hours with it. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused, and a big thank you to the viewer who brought this to my attention.
Thanks for the review! Very good job as usual on your channel! Can’t wait to receive my McLaren pro wheel from Ascher!!!!
Hope you enjoy it!
Not having to change or put on stickers is worth the priice alone. But, I have simagic So, I have to wait for the USB version.
Totally into this button design for sim racing wheels now - makes the old sticker style feel so last year, haha!
Is it sad that leoxz feels alot like these? But i love archer so much. But its funny the grips and everything feels like the leoxz. Even the profile of the wheel thickness is similiar.
Thank you for sharing, I haven't tried any of Leoxz's wheels yet, but I would like to. Which one do you have?
Great Review, thank you very much!
Thank you! 😊
intros lookin cleannn
Thanks ☺️
I'm so bad at putting on decals and stickers that the interchangeable buttons would be worth the price alone Imo.. Fantastic idea and great review as always
You and me both! Thanks!
My dream would be they just make the interchageable caps with anodized aluminum with laser engraving, ditch the RGB shit and increase the battery life to 800hrs.
Great review. Thanks! Can you comment on how the Ascher grips feel compared to the Grid MPX?
Both are great and similar; I wouldn't say one is better than the other.
Was so close to getting F28 but now seeing my indecision and want of 'backlit buttons' paid
Off. Can't wait to grab it!
Nice! I’m sure you’ll love it.
I just bought the ascher f28-sc v2 because I got it on a black friday deal for 599 Euros. Do you think the MCLAREN ARTURA SPORT is worth the 230 Euros more for its quit shifters and the 300 mm diameter?
IMO I think it’s worth it for the backlighting, better button caps and improved shifters and I personally prefer 300mm.
@@simracingden So I went with the f28-sc v2, personally I'm not a fan of blacklit buttons, as they distract me. The quiet shifters don't matter to me and the charging socket makes it more vulnerable to damage and it's 300g heavier which should not be underestimated - the f28 is a tank that already proved it's worth. The only thing I kinda envy is the 300mm diameter, but's it's not worth 230 Euros more in my opinion. It's a great wheel and I think everybody who owns it will be happy, but I really fell in love with the simplicity of the f28.
@@GabrielHaller I think you made the right choice for yourself and will be happy with the wheel. Ascher makes excellent products all around.
endgame wheel, cant wait to unbox mine... sadly they pushing delivery further away, when i ordered it was week 48, now it tells me week 50 already 😩
Hope you enjoy it! The waiting is the worst. Hope you get it sooner than later 🤞🏼
Thank you for the great review.
I must admit that I think about this steering wheel all the time. But in the back of my mind it has products that I also think are beneficial to buy or look at.
I would love to see a comparison sometime : Ascher Racing's McLaren Pro USB vs the upcoming Bavarian Alpha USB vx Grid MPX USB vs GSI Hyper SL USB vs Leoxz XGT Pro USB.
The Leoxz XGT Pro seems to benefit greatly from the purchase and I suspect it doesn't stand out from the other brands that much at all. I hope one day there will be a shop in my country where I can compare everything myself.
GRID MPX is great wheel too its my go-to all the time. Don't like the grips on GSI as much, haven't tried Bavarian but should be getting one for review soon. and haven't tried Leoxz XGT yet. I wish it was easier for people to try all these wheels first too but its difficult I guess.
I have just ordered the Pro model and i can`t wait to use it :D
Nice! Hope you enjoy it.
Hi Dan, great and informativ Review. I own the Ascher F28 and would upgrade to a Mclaren Wheel in der Future.
Did you notice a huge Difference between the 285 mm Diameter from the F28 to the 300 mm diameter from the Mclaren Wheels?
As you say, a lot of Racing Wheels have that 300 mm size.
It’s not a big difference 300mm feels more suitable to me.
Looks like a great wheel....just can't decide between the Artura Pro and the GSI Hyper SL ....
Tough choice, the Hyper SL looks great expect it’s similar to the Hyper P1 which I love minus the display.
You know, I was going to pull the trigger on a GSI wheel just last week, but there's two things that stopped me. The first is that I don't like the tactile feel of the buttons they use, it doesn't feel premium - they immediately click quite rigidly. The v1 GSI FPE had way better buttons, but the rotary encoders on that wheel were very cheap feeling and undefined. The second thing I didn't like is that they don't use multi-position switches - just plain old rotary encoders that send a pulse to the CPU to tell it a position has changed and I'm sorry, but that's just cutting corner for no good reason. If I'm paying the premium price they're asking, no corners should be cut.
That pro wheel is a real beauty!
It really is a nice design and well made!
NO! The Sport is worth $699 tops and the Pro is $799 tops. I dont care how "High end " the components are... NO CF and only use Billet Aluminum. The cost to produce doesn't warrant the price AT ALL
This one or the Grid MPX?
This
grid
i was sooo hyped for these and was saving money to get one, and then they delayed the usb versions ... black friday just passed and now i`m a gsi hyper p1 owner, so far no "ragrets"
Nothing wrong with a Hyper P1!
I thought these are wireless ?
They are with Simucube 2 wheelbases.
How they compare to the F64 v3 though? The only thing I could catch is the more subtle shifters but not sure if those an upgrade on any other aspects? (LED excluded of course)
The Pro-SC does provide an upgrade on not only the shifters (silenced, now free of any play, double shifters) and backlight buttons with interchangeable button caps, but also the wheel now comes with 4 thumb encoders (with updated placement) and a 300mm diameter (compared to 285mm on the F64). Additionally, the overall build-quality has been improved as well. :)
For sure there will be some stickers to hide the mclaren logo if you don’t want to see it.
Yea not hard to do but also it’s subtle enough that if you’re a huge Ferrari fan maybe it won’t drive you nuts haha!
How are the thumb encoders without gloves? Would it be comfortable to use frequently?
Yes no issue without gloves.
I'm actually suprised by the times of battery usage vs charging, are you sure the numbers are correct? 15-30 hours driving, and 6 hours charging for that..?
My f28 v2 goes for 2-3 years on a small replaceble battery.. What happened there?
They switched out battery to a rechargeable one vs the 14250 replaceable batteries think it has something to do with backlighting obviously needs something that can be recharged.
@@simracingden I guess so too. Just looked it up, it's 800h without the lights, so all the lights are really punishing battery life..
Nice review by the way, thanks!
Hi, SC model do not support telemtry (simhub)? There is usb on SC model only for charging the battery, correct?
Correct USB on SC model is not intended to be used while racing only for charging.
@@simracingdeni wanted wireless model which support simhub telemetry, to map rpm buttons and also car on left or right side overtaking me. Seems beed to wait for usb model 😢
@@amigoz3201 that will prob never happen on any wheel... somehow telemetry cant be send via wireless
I noticed a mittle mistake in the review... on the Ascher Website it says that the Wheels battery runs up to 800 hours without backlight and up to 30 hours with backlight
th-cam.com/video/NeQVMIBqMZc/w-d-xo.html
Sorry you’re correct I must have misspoke when recording the voice over. Thanks for catching that. It’s frustrating because I try to be very careful with the details. Thanks.
@@simracingden No problem. The review is very good and with lot of details. Cant wait to get this into my hands =D. In an other review they say, that when the battery runs low with backlights on, the automaticaly lights go off and then the battery still holds up for around 30 hours. Can you confirm that?
Doesn’t work properly in AMS2 for me. Upper shifter not recognized and right rotary in shiftmode neither.
Ac and acc works fine with it.
Have you tried ams2 with it?
Yes I tried with AMS2 and didn’t have any issues.
@@simracingden alright, interesting. Thanks for letting me know. Maybe I have to delete the control settings completely and assign new. Thx 🙏
No, tried all I can, doesn’t work with ams2. Upper paddle shifters and right rotary in shift mode are not recognized as inputs in the game.
Having the thumb encoders where they should be, immediately makes the McLaren wheel worth the extra to me. Also I prefer the button placements and the rotary’s more clearly indicate the position.
Agreed they really nailed it with this wheel!
Do you think the ultimate is worth it for the screen?
It depends on how important having the display is to you. Do you drive mostly GT or Formula and LMP style cars where having a dash on the wheel makes sense? Also, consider your seating position to see the display correctly. The sports and pro models of the Artura series are outstanding. Expect the ultimate to be the same but just with a screen.
Are the grips sticky at all like the previous wheels?
I don't find these new grips sticky at all. Really nice to hold without gloves and still provide grip without that sticky feel
What are the main differences between this wheel and GRID MPX? What would make a person pick one over the other?
Big difference is Ascher’s is wireless if you own a Simucube wheelbase whereas grid needs to be connected to a power box then usb to PC. Stickers on MPX vs aschers button caps. Some may issue with one or other so comes down to personal preference but I much prefer button caps now having tried them.
@@simracingden Yeah, button caps are a great idea. Never liked stickers.
The tough choice is that I am getting an Invicta base and the Ascher wheel is not available in the USB version yet. So I may go with an MPX. I am sure it is a fantastic wheel regardless, but I do wish the connection was via a simple USB.
@@CynicalManInBlack Not a fan of the MPX not using multi position switches and in a product that's asking for a premium price, cutting corners is not good enough in my opinion.
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Would you recommend it to someone who already has an mpx?
It's probably a bit redundant unless you just enjoy collecting different wheels. If I had to choose between the two, I would pick my MPX still every time.
@@simracingden thank you for saving 1200 eur for me 😀
How does it compare to GSI hyper?
It's challenging to compare since they're quite different types of wheels, but when it comes to build quality, both brands excel and offer really impressive wheels. The Hyper P1 might be better compared to the upcoming ultimate version with a display. One aspect I prefer about the Ascher is the interchangeable button caps, whereas on the Hyper P1, they're fixed as set by the factory.
GSI Hyper P1 doesn't use multi position switches and for the premium price they're asking for, they shouldn't be cutting that corner.
When these wheel is coming?
If ordered now, they'll be shipped within week 50 if everything goes to plan :)
@@marcelertle4569 there not shipping in my country))) so have to wait when murray or other shop will get them in stock
can you charge it while driving?
Yep, that's possible :)
@@marcelertle4569 it's not recommended, the USC-C connector could be damaged. I certainly won't do it
If your cable is long enough and has some slack, it should be fine. But I agree, it's something to handle carefully and not something you'd want to do frequently, in my opinion.
Indeed not recommended, but in case of "emergency" very useful :)