The plane was not called the "Demon". The mistake in the name was due to a post-war historian looking through the Curtiss files and finding a reference next to the prototype calling it "demon". It turns out this was an abbreviation of "demonstrator". There are no wartime references to the CW-21B ever being called "Demon".
The Curtis Demon fighter was underpowered and undergunned. It might have been a good fighter in the middle 1930's. However, during a time of rapidly changing technologies in aircraft designs/engines it just wasn't where it should have been to fight a Mitsubishi Zero. The elevator music is so pleasant and wonderful it could drive some drive some listeners literally insane. Maybe we could sentence prisoners to have to listen to it all day long.
sounds like elevator music with an asian buffet on ground floor and a clown workshop on second floor or something from a bad foreign nickelodeon cartoon in the 80's where a dragon befriends children he will later eat.
Curtis Demon is listed in wiki with 314 MPH top speed and 282 MPH as the cruise speed other sources agree which makes it entirely compatible with the Zero excepting a startling climb speed exceeding the Zero by 1400 fpm
I remember seeing a British prototype aircraft built in roughly in 1936 -1937. It looked exactly like a ZERO. I wonder if it was just luck they looked the same!
Your British prototype aircraft might be the Gloster F.5/34 fighter which made its first flight in 1936. Looking at the picture of this aircraft I feel the same.
I, an my friend who later would be in the international film industry, were once in an elevator with Ravi Shankar, Bangkok, Thailand, circa 1971, after we saw him in concert. That music reminded me of that, what he must have endured after my friend and I got on before him and in our immature prankish mentality, pushed every button do the elevator would have to stop at every floor of the new 25+/- hotel. Lol! Meanwhile, was it fighter aircraft, pilot experience or both that won the day? One looked like a child's you going up against a war machine.
There appear to be some whiny children bitching about the music in this video. Perhaps someone, such as their mothers, should educate them about the basics of interpersonal behavior. Anyway, that's a neat little airplane that I'd never heard anything about. Interesting that it was so slow compared to the Zero, yet had a huge advantage in rate of climb. That ought to make for an interesting dogfight matchup. To design, develop, and produce a fighter but sell it in such miniscule numbers surely could not have been Curtiss's intent. I suppose they hoped to sell the planes to the US military, but it was rejected.
The documentary itself was interesting enough, but the music just didn't fit the programme - fundamentally, the Zero's were a superior fighting machine in this particular instance.
This A/C is very similar 2 the Buffalo Burster. I'd put a large sum of money down back n the day that this A/C in the capable hands of an American pilot would have had a better score sheet against the Zek! Watta shame.
A negative kill ratio is not a good thing. That the Zeros had the Demons for lunch is no surprise news. Better and more powerful fighters came to grief against them until the Hellcats and Corsairs had the Zeros for their lunch. Oh, and a few P-38s in the right hands did very well, too. A great fighter in 1940-42 will not necessarily be so great in later years without major improvement, which the Zero never got.
The Demon was comparable to its design contemporaries. It fell victim to the rapid pace of technological development - a design could literally become obsolete as soon as it was placed in service. Or even before. The Dutch didn't have a large aeroplane industry, so had to use whatever they could find, buy, or scrounge.
@@ianwalker404 p40b, same year, 304mph. A twenty one mpg difference. P-35 (1936): 267mph. Brewster F2A-1 (1937): 277mph. Caproni CA.335 (1939): 311mph. AUT.18 (1939): 300mph. Fiat G.50 (1937): 290mph. I could continue, but I think my point is made.
As Mr Cummings points out, it wasnt that slow compared to its contemporaries, but it was 50 mph slower than a zero. Having said that a zero going near max chat was a sod to fly in anything other than straight and level due to huge working surface areas that were man-power operated. Zero was at its best in slow speed dogfights and outflew Spitfire V's. That was a bit of a shock to many.
Please send an album of this music to Nancy Pelosi. It could definitely be used to wreak havoc whereas the Curtis Demon wreaked nothing. It was about as useful as a Cessna 172 and a Colt Peacemaker. If this music were played on FM in the early morning hours an entire city could become alcoholic.
If you are referring to the painting of the fighter diving in on a zero with 6 fifty cals blazing that would be a F6F Hellcat. You can tell by the engine cowling and the wings.
@@sturmbok actually the picture at 257, seems the long fat nose, raised canopy kinda looks like now that you mention a p40/ f4u corsair. wow the horsepower that demon must have had?
Allied fighters of those days can't beat Japanese fighters at all. Anyway, exaggerate it and inflate the number of shots down. When he occupied Java, he captured the Curtis fighter and tested it in Japan, but he said he had nothing to reference.
THE JAPANESE A6M2 WAS 40 MPH FASTER HAD BETTER CLIMB RATE AND WAS FAR MORE MANUVERABLE THAN ANYTHING WE HAD UNTIL LATE IN 1943........THE P4 CORSAIR WAS OUR TICKET TO FINALLY BEAT THE ZEROES AT THIER OWN GAME.....OUR P 40'S WERE FAST , BUT NOT AGILE .
![แค่บอก - Atom ชนกันต์ [OFFICIAL MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kgwhtg8bAxY/mqdefault.jpg)
Interesting tidbit of history there! I never knew about that aircraft. Thanks!
The plane was not called the "Demon". The mistake in the name was due to a post-war historian looking through the Curtiss files and finding a reference next to the prototype calling it "demon". It turns out this was an abbreviation of "demonstrator". There are no wartime references to the CW-21B ever being called "Demon".
The Japanese used this music to torture allied POWs during the war.
Hahaha! That is very funny and possibly true.
Well, it certainly tortured me until I muted it. Ahh, peace.
The Curtis Demon fighter was underpowered and undergunned. It might have been a good fighter in the middle 1930's. However, during a time of rapidly changing technologies in aircraft designs/engines it just wasn't where it should have been to fight a Mitsubishi Zero. The elevator music is so pleasant and wonderful it could drive some drive some listeners literally insane. Maybe we could sentence prisoners to have to listen to it all day long.
sounds like elevator music with an asian buffet on ground floor and a clown workshop on second floor or something from a bad foreign nickelodeon cartoon in the 80's where a dragon befriends children he will later eat.
Nice!
Woah….I actually quite liked it!!
The music is a mix of gamelan, techno, kindergarten and bad taste at a 5/8 beat in Q sharp.🇦🇺👍
It has a heavy influence of suck in it.
Sounds like bad elevator music for children.
i shot myself in the ear halfway thru but i missed.
Curtis Demon is listed in wiki with 314 MPH top speed and 282 MPH as the cruise speed
other sources agree
which makes it entirely compatible with the Zero excepting a startling climb speed exceeding the Zero by 1400 fpm
I rechecked, and you are correct. Many thanks for these data.
The CW21 now haunts the low-tier battles of war thunder.
Ain’t gonna lie, I knew nothing of this plane.
I remember seeing a British prototype aircraft built in roughly in 1936 -1937.
It looked exactly like a ZERO.
I wonder if it was just luck they looked the same!
Your British prototype aircraft might be the Gloster F.5/34 fighter which made its first flight in 1936. Looking at the picture of this aircraft I feel the same.
First view of the Demon starts at 2:53
I, an my friend who later would be in the international film industry, were once in an elevator with Ravi Shankar, Bangkok, Thailand, circa 1971, after we saw him in concert. That music reminded me of that, what he must have endured after my friend and I got on before him and in our immature prankish mentality, pushed every button do the elevator would have to stop at every floor of the new 25+/- hotel. Lol! Meanwhile, was it fighter aircraft, pilot experience or both that won the day? One looked like a child's you going up against a war machine.
Real Nice vídeo !! 👍👍👍
I came here for the music
You must have been disappointed when you realized you missed it.
The Demons got EXORCISED by the Zeros.
It was not called Demon but Interceptor
There appear to be some whiny children bitching about the music in this video. Perhaps someone, such as their mothers, should educate them about the basics of interpersonal behavior. Anyway, that's a neat little airplane that I'd never heard anything about. Interesting that it was so slow compared to the Zero, yet had a huge advantage in rate of climb. That ought to make for an interesting dogfight matchup. To design, develop, and produce a fighter but sell it in such miniscule numbers surely could not have been Curtiss's intent. I suppose they hoped to sell the planes to the US military, but it was rejected.
The documentary itself was interesting enough, but the music just didn't fit the programme - fundamentally, the Zero's were a superior fighting machine in this particular instance.
Sure like the music. Goes good with my medical marijuana.
Interesting. They should add this plane to War Thunder, if they haven't already.
It exists in war thunder and its a beast
Cool if available in kit for! Didn't do well against zero, but looks like good plane for private use now?
“All good video starts with good audio” .... wtf
The music from a Chinese children's show?
This music is " Cublak Cublak Suweng - Indonesian instrumental music / Java Island"
This A/C is very similar 2 the Buffalo Burster. I'd put a large sum of money down back n the day that this A/C in the capable hands of an American pilot would have had a better score sheet against the Zek! Watta shame.
One of my fave in WT
So CW-21 was actually a winner !👍
Please, find different music.
This is your comment on the Second World War?
I would if I could. Thanks for watching, and apologies for any pain it caused you.
I didn't know that Curtiss Wright and the Netherlands flew for the Japanese.
Music in background was interesting
The music is " Cublak Cublak Suweng - Indonesian instrumental music / Java Island"
A negative kill ratio is not a good thing. That the Zeros had the Demons for lunch is no surprise news. Better and more powerful fighters came to grief against them until the Hellcats and Corsairs had the Zeros for their lunch. Oh, and a few P-38s in the right hands did very well, too.
A great fighter in 1940-42 will not necessarily be so great in later years without major improvement, which the Zero never got.
The "Demon" was desperately slow
The Demon was comparable to its design contemporaries. It fell victim to the rapid pace of technological development - a design could literally become obsolete as soon as it was placed in service. Or even before. The Dutch didn't have a large aeroplane industry, so had to use whatever they could find, buy, or scrounge.
@@lairdcummings9092 First flight Sept 1938 yet it's not even as fast as MK i Hurricane(322 mph)) first flight 2 years earlier
@@ianwalker404 p40b, same year, 304mph. A twenty one mpg difference. P-35 (1936): 267mph. Brewster F2A-1 (1937): 277mph. Caproni CA.335 (1939): 311mph.
AUT.18 (1939): 300mph. Fiat G.50 (1937): 290mph.
I could continue, but I think my point is made.
As Mr Cummings points out, it wasnt that slow compared to its contemporaries, but it was 50 mph slower than a zero. Having said that a zero going near max chat was a sod to fly in anything other than straight and level due to huge working surface areas that were man-power operated. Zero was at its best in slow speed dogfights and outflew Spitfire V's. That was a bit of a shock to many.
Not much to scream about then - No wonder we never heard about these
Was this aircraft an underpowered, under-armed POS?
IT WAS DESINGED IN 1934........THE A6M2 ZERO CAME IN ABOUT 1939 .............A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE .
Looks allmost like a Focke Wulff FW190 ! Could be further developed to a superb fast fighter! A shame this design was dropped.
Please send an album of this music to Nancy Pelosi. It could definitely be used to wreak havoc whereas the Curtis Demon wreaked nothing. It was about as useful as a Cessna 172 and a Colt Peacemaker. If this music were played on FM in the early morning hours an entire city could become alcoholic.
DEVELOP BY THE Donald Dimwit organization..
Fantastic music! But what a sllllow plane 50mph slower than the Zero's!
I would get a cramp in my tongue elongating the "L" in slow like that..I read it in my mind. Sloooooooooow would be my choice.
A ZERO/ F4U CORSAIR ?
If you are referring to the painting of the fighter diving in on a zero with 6 fifty cals blazing that would be a F6F Hellcat. You can tell by the engine cowling and the wings.
@@sturmbok actually the picture at 257, seems the long fat nose, raised canopy kinda looks like now that you mention a p40/ f4u corsair. wow the horsepower that demon must have had?
Too bad there was no footage of the demon at all.
Allied fighters of those days can't beat Japanese fighters at all. Anyway, exaggerate it and inflate the number of shots down. When he occupied Java, he captured the Curtis fighter and tested it in Japan, but he said he had nothing to reference.
OMG!! MAKE THE MUSIC STOP!!!
There's literally a control for that mate
@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music yeah...its telling YOU to piss off!!!
video: abouty the Curtisss- After 30% of the video we do not see it, but the Zero. Thumb down
The plane was seriously out gunned against the zero some of this is pilot who is flying the plane but it did terrible in this air war.
THE JAPANESE A6M2 WAS 40 MPH FASTER HAD BETTER CLIMB RATE AND WAS FAR MORE MANUVERABLE THAN ANYTHING WE HAD UNTIL LATE IN 1943........THE P4 CORSAIR WAS OUR TICKET TO FINALLY BEAT THE ZEROES AT THIER OWN GAME.....OUR P 40'S WERE FAST , BUT NOT AGILE .
Sorry... couldn't stand the kids toy music... please make content more adult friendly...
It was the 1940's...were you expecting Judas Priest?
Ditto cubed on the music comments. Endless, boring telephone on hold music.
Very childish music. Makes this video unwatchable.
Awful music
Irritating, music unfit for subject matter.
Bad tunes dude bye bye
Music sucks bud.
It was the only cockpit music that came with the plane.
God awful music