How The Greatest Gamer Of All Time Left His Fate To RNG
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2023
- Known for his legendary Terran play, Lee "Flash" Young Ho, a StarCraft pro player from South Korea, decided to challenge RNG by maining Random.
This is the story of how Flash demonstrated his unbelievably deep understanding of the game by locking in Random at AfreecaTV StarCraft League 10.
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if he had won that season's ASL playing as random it would even further cement his status as the true GOAT of gaming.
Maybe it leaves room for someone to beat his record and take the title
Still, all players reaction's prove his goatness
@Frank The Tank i think it's highly unlikely someone could win random. Maybe a new player who random the whole time but for an existing pro it would be hard. Protoss and terran have similar enough mechanics that maybe won't be as hard but zerg is just too different
Getting 3rd place on the first try is good enough, a few things going differently vs soma would have gotten him to the finals and maybe a win, every other match was pretty easy for him.
Isnt it impossible to be be the best gamer of all time as a general statement? Like I feel that would be being good at every type of competitive game
3:56 Love how my man Arty took a detour to make sure to dump on Protoss while praising Flash's ladder rankings with his off-races. Never change Dan
Classic arty
classic artosis
Hahahahahahha
You'd think that Artosis' day job is as a streamer or caster, but you'd be wrong. His actual day job is Protoss salt miner, and he sure mines a lot of salt on the ladder.
Love it 😂😂
This run was truly unbelievable watching it in real time was insane I can’t emphasise enough how difficult it would be
I don't know anything about StarCraft but I love your bite sized documentaries
Thanks!
Flash is 11-4 on random, a 73% winrate. That's a higher winrate than any other player has in ASL history.
Flash is the greatest gamer. Period. This tournament was fucking incredible to watch. Thanks for giving BW the attention it deserves
*Fatal1ty has entered the chat*
@@CoralCopperHead different era, but how long has Wendel been on top of the food chain?
What happened to Boxer being the goat of SC1?
@@davidk4082 He was never the GOAT in terms of performance, he was surpassed by oov and NaDa quickly. But he's still the most legendary and famous.
@@CoralCopperHead Bro he plays Quake. I am not discrediting his success, but comparing Quake and Starcraft is like comparing Connect 4 against Chess.
Flash came so damn close to winning it all. I wish he won the ASL title that year playing as random.
The problem is that if he did... What's next ? What can you even do beside retire forever right there ?
@@Nooctae
Bro, Flash doesn't even have to come back and win ASL multiple times and he'll still be the GOAT.
This was incredibly well done. Congrats on making such a high quality SC video. The greatest esport of all time :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
How many stars had to align for FlaSh to get all three different races, and then win a clean 3-0 over one of the best Terrans in the world? It's just...amazing. I always appreciate videos like these that help cement and preserve FlaSh's greatness and legacy in SC:BW.
6:30 one thing people ALWAYS forget is that flash, when he was upcoming and still trying to overcome jaedong (which he eventually does handily), was KNOWN as a cheesy player. He'd resort to cheeses very often, so playing random is a major advantage when you're not going to automatically going to the standard every game. Not trying to get any credit away from him, but it's good to remind people that flash is not scared to cheese, he did it often when he was very young.
I miss starcraft. used to watch Sc2 so much seeing Artosis again brought back memories.
As a non starcrafter, is it dead? This tournament looks like it was 2020, so maybe theres still some good tourneys happening.
If someone can do it, it's Flash. Rain (another gaming genius) disappeared for a bunch of years, then came back and got to ASL finals pretty much stomping everyone in his way. So I'm excited to see Flash competing at ASL at least once more, I hope his time away helped ease his wrist and shoulder issues.
did rain disappear or was treat when he played starcraft 2? im fairly certain he is one of the few people to win championships in both games
wrists dont like to heal man. Flash has already had surgery for his wrist before i believe, so if his wrist issues are bad he might be done competing like that.
@@maoduida387wrists heal but lifestyle can impede it. They may not be very active, and type of foods they may eat also affects it
@@sillymesilly What wrist issues do/have you had?
Flash: "you beat the singleplayer campaign..? I beat multiplayer."
thanks for the memories man. Im someone who's watched pro broodwar since 07 and Flash's random run is one of those unforgettable moments in esports.
He's the greatest player in history, but if he wins with random, he will be the greatest game player forever into the future. For now, he leaves a single gap between complete mastery and perfection.
ASL 10 was by far my favorite esports event of all time. nothing is as fun as watching flash play random.
It's ok but it's not hookers and blow😊
I love how the moment they see a single pixel that looks vaguely Terran their faces be like: *chuckles* "I'm in danger"
It's so fucking perfect lol. It made me bust up laughing.
The commenter doing the ZvZ about the micro was great too.
No one could even get close to Flash, his accomplishments are immense.
100%. He's like Michael Phelps. Absolute dominance in his field.
That run Flash made with random in Season 10 is just crazy, and he had some pretty special strategies prepped as well. Insane run. Hopefully he comes back to Brood War, afaik his military service has been done for a while.
When I played sc2 I picked random because it hides what I am from the opponent until they check my base. I felt like it gave me an advantage because I knew the match up first and would have an idea of how to play it sooner than the opponent.
The way he managed to get 3rd against the best players in the world with ALL 3 CLASSES is amazing.
I recently got into StarCraft 2 it’s cool to see u guys doing a video on ot
Watching his random run was phenomenal and so much fucking fun. It was crazy when he gets terran instead lol
Flash and Jaedong was one of the greatest e-sport rivalry of all time.
A true master plays Random
one of the best ASLs of all time and I mean that, I struggle to finish new ones cause they just don't have the insane energy this ASL had. Also great theme song for it that season. Just all round such a great tournament.
4:34 larva is my new favorite SC player. Never seen him play once but that man got an undeniable energy no one else seems to have. Look at that funky dude.
Just got to 10:08 and holy shit i love this dude even more
Look up "larva plays with his feet" if you havent already seen it. Dude is amazing 😅
Such a crazy story and such a good video the Esports Historian himself rt’d it.
What a great video, thanks!
The C Ball is on point! I spit laughed. Great video as always!
i heard about this a while ago but hadn't seen videos on it. this is absolutely insane.
Wow, great story and great video
What an honor to be alive during the same time as flash in his starcraft Progamer incarnation.
This guy's win rate was over 70%. OVER SEVENTY PERCENT! He's way out of this world.
I can know nothing about the topic at hand and still thoroughly enjoy these videos, they are just so well done!
Also Jack thank you, I am no longer alone here
Whenever im feeling exhausted from squats, i think to myself, "flash would do one more rep"
Please! More Starcraft content! I want to see Tastosis in your next video!
Thanks for the vid
He slapped snow and larva! Wow
"Fuk you if you're playing random! Random has an unfair advantage!"
- Artosis
Flash is God
Good vid, I’ve always loved Flash
Never seen starcraft in my life but now i want too lol. Thank you for the great video.
Love your content 😊
Thank you! 😁
Insane production and you even got Artosis on. :)
No one will ever match Flash, it feels like he's not human, but some kind of demi-god in this game
Flash is the greatest gamer of our times
why does this clip to drones walking over the eggs while artosis says "stuff thats NEVER been done before" lmao
Would be great to see him in the next ASL!
Loved this
Such good content.
I remember thinking during this run he was able to get away with builds and advantages that other races could not because they had no way to prepare for the opening.
The unknown opening in no way measures up to the level of difficulty in playing off races. Also the meta has changed so that most races can do the same build vs any race. Zerg can pool first vs all races, terran can fast mech vs all races, tvz being the worst but still possible, protoss can gateway expand vs all races. The main difference was protoss used to go forge first only vs zerg but now they learned to gateway first vs zerg
@@GK-gc9cv you become more predictable though, flash would know you are more likely to pick those builds since they are safer
not saying it wasn't an amazing achievement on his part but it definitely makes it harder for both players, I really hope flash goes random again in the future cause every match was so exciting
Theres just too many nuances in each matchup to master normally you practice 3 matchups per race and its hard, now imagine 9(3 mirrors and 3 matchups on each side).
My favorite pro gamer of all time! The Ultimate Weapon! Long Live FlaSh!
Thanks for the nice Video!!! Next Idea maybe Oliveira AMAZING RUN.... That is amazing FAIRYTAIL STORY
I understood like 10% of this video. Great stuff
That Larva foot gaming cameo though.
He just said "I'm a jack of all trades, master of all"
The more popular games have all the money and attention, so few people know about these things, so I'm really happy to see you spread the word a bit on StarCraft and how absolutely insane it is that someone can be competitive playing all 3 races.
it was indeed amazing and unmatchable , i watch all the asl's and gsl's....
So since he went random, got lucky and got to play against Free with T it was essentially a...
"Free win"
3:56 never change Artosis.
Watching those matches live was intense! What's next? No mouse?
I promised that I'd watch any Flash related video after the last one. Here I am for another.
great video
would LOVE more broodwar lore
This man the real life Yugi Moto 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Boxer, Flash, Jaedong - The holy trinity of Brood War Goats.
I still salty he beat Stork on OSL
1:00 very nice transition.
Artosis : "Protoss is kind of an easy race to play"
The Salt still flows even after almost 2 decades.
Playing against the player nicknamed "God", your place in the tourney is left entirely to RNG. A complete coin flip. Then the coin lands.
You: 5:48
Never played StarCraft , hooked me in
i dont know anything about starcraft, but I think this guy is/was striving to be the absolute best in history by proving that he could win no matter what race he got
Really sad that military service destroys so many esport careers.
Yes, other people have to do it aswell, but there are few professional sectors where it really hurts this much.
another strong random player is a famous commentator (russian language) Alex007 from Ukraine
he still plays on local level every now and then and is still one of the strongest random players in the world
great video. Kinda sad that SC is kinda only strong in Korea these days.
As someone who have no idea how Starcraft work, my only question is: how much of an advantage it is your opponent not knowing what you are playing? As it seems to me that in Starcraft it takes some time for the players to meet in the battlefield. This is only a curiousity question from someone without knowledge on the subject.
This is an amazing video and the balls to do such thing at this level is just amazing.
It does give you an advantage in the context of a single game, but not necessarily in the context of a series or tournament. You'll notice Artosis said several times that Flash's success would depend on getting the race on the right map with the right spawn location. This is significant not only due to balance, as BW's balancing comes almost exclusively through maps rather than patches. More importantly, having the right race/map/spawn combination is important because the advantage of being random depends on the amount of time your opponent spends in the dark. Larger maps are advantageous in this regard, but larger maps also typically have multiple possible spawn locations, with some being much closer than others. Similarly, maps with fixed spawn locations, and particularly smaller maps, also influenced the influence of random's advantage.
The advantage of keeping your opponent in the dark shouldn't be underestimated, of course. BW is a game where players can recite a build not by order, but by second--at 1:15, you'll have this X units, then Y building finishes 15 seconds later, allowing you to start Z upgrade, which takes 1 minute, so wait 10 seconds and move your units so they arrive just as the upgrade finishes. The game becomes increasingly reactive as it progresses, of course, but it's not like you're running a marathon. It's like you're sprinting one. These builds are optimized based on timing that is, in turn, dependent on resources. Resources are dependent on workers. Workers, however, are also used to scout. As a result of this, on larger maps without fixed spawns, Flash has the advantage of not needing to scout early, whereas his opponent is forced to. This gives him a minor advantage, and also may put his opponent at a minor disadvantage, but again this is highly dependent on the map.
This was more or less Artosis' point. If Flash rolled Terran on those maps that gave the least advantage to random and either rolled a distant spawn location on larger maps or rolled Terran in the event that he rolled a poor spawn location, he would maximize his advantages while also minimizing the drawbacks. Whether he got Zerg or Protoss would also be very important, as certain maps are favored for certain races and certain players are better against certain races. And avoiding mirror matchups (outside of TvT) would benefit him as well.
So to answer your question, there's really no way to know whether it's advantageous or not because the advantage of playing random is itself up to RNG. Sometimes it might be huge, other times it might be really bad. You would have to have enough data from entire tournaments to really determine the balance between advantage and disadvantage, and whether it favors the random player or not. In essence, playing random not only introduces a new RNG component, it also exacerbates the existing RNG mechanics in the game to a degree that maps simple weren't designed to handle. Yes, there's a disadvantage to playing an unfamiliar (relatively) race, but the whole thing is so chaotic that it's hard to really say whether Flash had any real advantage when he rolled Z or P.
@@loldoctoryou really must be a doctor
@@loldoctorhow can you write so articulate
@@martinc1842 He is a doctor.
Flash showed that he is the skill ceiling.
I thought the greatest gamer of all time was Billy Mitchell.
😂😂😂
Early days esports (and streamers) have something so unique and fun to it.
Like im not bombarded by 10 millions ads in a single pro game and casters doing ads midcast.
It wouldn’t be arty if he didn’t call Protoss easy
The wildest part of it was me realizing that Broof War is still being played on comp level
so starcraft is not forgotten man im happi
he also left his fate to RNG crypto dump :^)
The nostalgia, man. Back when e-sports was all about Starcraft, Quake 3 Arena, and CS.
GOAT
what happnd to you OWL highlights vids ?? will it ever comeback??
good season
favorite season was when larva won, man what a ride and it felt like he deserved it too. Now I'm rooting for Mong, if he can just start building battlecruisers TvZ ffs
can sb explain what they meant with "he knew it's a spore colony, not sunk"?
Fun fact the first world champion ever D22soso won playing random only
litle correction, the highest apm games are actually rhythm games, but it doesnt require strategy and managing at the same time.
The goat of goats
the in-video embeds didnt show up for me
Never say never, that is stupid. This can and should happen again.
the reactions at 5:00 are amazing lol
As a Korean who grew up enjoying esports in general, i personally felt like starleague was literally the hardest to win even when compared to recent games with global competition
Always crazy to me how being the goat of one genre (a small one at that) of gaming can be muddled up with being the goat of all gaming. I mean did he consistantly get top 8 in fg/moba/fps tounies or was it just rts?
Saying StarCraft is a small game shows your ignorance.
"hes like the king of Zerg besides being named queen" isnt that cause Zerg race revolves around a queen? like bugs or someshit...
so cool.