As an American I've always been "Christian". Started out Lutheran, married a Catholic and attended Catholic Churches over the years. Mid 80's became a Pentecostal. 5 years ago attended Liberty University and am therefore "Baptist Educated". I'm a Christian, PERIOD and have found a lot of truth in the various Christian churches. We ALL pray to the same God on Sunday morning and we all think the "we" are right... I Love God and pray a lot and read the Bible daily. Which Church is "right"?
@pendulousphallus Yes, I did. America is NOT a Christian nation. America is a religious nation. America is a nation in which genuine Christians dwell among a plethora of false converts.
You are right, when you live and breath Christ. His righteousness clothes you like a garment, with much Beauty and Glory. And those who see it, have been blessed by the Lord's grace . It testifies to their hearts that this faith is true. In this sense, Justification needs no explanation, because justification has been given freely in him.
@aveyowyns I watched it again, you're right, it was "My circular arguments are not circular because my foundation is correct" (4:33) same thing though.
I just received my evidence study Bible, it’s so big it’s a little overwhelming, any idea of how to read it or where to start? I’ve been reading the word for 5 years and I still just kind of “decide “ where to read.
@JamesTheTank Yeah, the fact that it's Way of the Master makes it clear they're being serious... it's simply that my brain has trouble reconciling the fact that people like this exist. These "arguments" are so devoid of logic or proof or anything it just makes my head swim.
@Marsalis77 But how do you know that bridge had a creator? When you can answer that question you will understand why the analogy doesn't work with the natural world.
We have all sinned against a holy God. We have lied, stolen, and used His name as a cuss word. Since He is holy, he punishes sinners in the lake of fire. But God is rich in mercy to all who call upon Him. Jesus suffered and died on the cross for your sins, taking the punishment on Himself. He rose again on the third day after He died. “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.” Please repent and believe in this gospel alone for salvation. Come to Him.
"How do you know you're NOT living in a matrix?" I don't. I act as though I'm not because there's no way to tell the difference. Same reason I act as though there's no "spiritual realm" or gods: nobody has been able to distinguish between spiritual and non-existent.
@scrap222666 Why are you focusing on the details of the bridge? Does the bridge exist? Yes? Ok, then there is a creator. There goes your analogy. We know there is a builder because there is a building. The fact that a creation exists, regardless of what it looks like, proves that there is a Creator.
@dougmoerhoffman You know that the bridge had a creator because there are blueprints? Some bridges are very basic and have no blueprints. Are you suggesting that those ones did NOT have a creator? No, that is NOT how we know that bridges are created. Try again.
I Love God and Love Prayer. The comfort of communing with God gives my life purpose. If I had been born in the mountains of Pakistan I would still Love God and get comfort from communing with God. It would give my life purpose. Oh yeah, if I'd been born in Pakistan I would call God, "Allah". By being born in the "wrong" geographical location I guess I'd be doomed to an eternity in Hell? God would have played a pretty cruel joke on me. That seems to be what you are saying...
SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE (NOTHING IN THE BEGINNING) Dear ray, Suppose, I took your photo. Now, time starts to your photo (1seccond, 2 sec... etc). So, before the time started to your photo (before the 1st second), it wasn't there. Today, we know that, everything changes with time (earth, sun, stars...). So, everything comes under time. Time has 2 attributes. Beginning and ending. So, everything had a beginning. Since they began, they change with respect to time. So, before they began (before the 1st second), Scientifically they don't exist. So, there must me NOTHING before they began. Nothing to everything is creating. As you said, all the combined intelligence of human cannot create a grain of sand from nothing. So, the INTELLIGENT CREATIVE FORCE is THE CREATOR. GOD Created everything from nothing. Love from India...
@stoicsquirrel Ummm...this is a tough one...hmmm...because there is a bridge! When you see a bridge, building, computer, chair or even a doorknob do you really question if there was a creator? Really?? Seriously?? It's common sense! What's the point of your argument when we all know that the bridge and the other things I mentioned in fact have a creator?!?! I promise it's really not that complicated! DONE!
@dougmoerhoffman Ray doesn't lie about evolution? I wish he were only uninformed, but he has been corrected multiple times and schooled on what evolution actually predicts, and it's not a crockaduck.
'Saints' are not omnipresent. They cannot hear your prayer. Even if they could, by praying to them, you assume that they can put a 'good word' in for you. This assumes that their prayer is better than yours. If you have true faith and trust in Jesus, and the prayer is in accordance with God's will, it will be answered sooner or later. The bible explains the trinity just fine, just not in a verse such as: "the trinity is..." The catechism is contrary to the bible in parts. Tradition is not
@dougmoerhoffman I'm only finding the PhD in Astrophysics... and his course of study is generally regarded as pseudo science. Anytime you are trying to prove something, rather than trying to discover the truth, you are not practicing science. If he was supporting his own theory, that didn't start with some rediculous premise like say "the universe is only a few thousands years old, because God said so" then he might be a scientist.
@xclosetohumanx They are quite serious. But they are also one of the few Xian youtube channels that doesn't block comments, which is awesome right? It's all rediculous of course, but not intended to be funny.
Many catholic traditions/teachings are not biblical. For instance prayer to so called saints, such as st. Anthony when you lose something. This is against the 2nd commandment, Exod 20:4-6. Similarly prayer to Mary. We are called to worship God alone, for He is a 'jealous God'. We are instructed "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do" Matt 6:7 Catholics have the rosary and often recite prayer from memory. Much of the catechism is not biblical, etc. There is more.
@dougmoerhoffman You are right, not his course of study, the concept which he trys to share. Pseuedo science because he's not practicing science, he's trying to make science fit into a god sized box, which as it turns out is pretty small. I'm not an Atheist btw, I just have very little respect for Abrahamic faiths.
To ask a saint to pray for them is not idolitry. We ask saints for intercession. But The repitions are not in vein. how many time have you prayed the lords prayer? I bet more then once. look at psalms 136, alot of repition. Much of the catechism is not Biblical because it is traditional. Nowhere in the Bible is the Trinity explained, one God in 3 persons. but this is a common knowledge amoung christians. If you deny this look into the Council of Nicea and The First Council of Constantinople.
Tradition is not superior to the bible, nor is it on an equal playing field. go to item 100 of catechism which states that the task of interpreting the scripture is the pope and the bishops job. I direct you to: II Tim 2:15, Acts 17:11, John 5:39, I John 2:27, Acts 5:29, etc. give examples as to why we must not trust men to interpret God's revelations. Many of the catechism points can be disproved with the bible, many more strongly than this.
@AussieMaleTuber how dare you! 1st of all, u spelled it wrong! 2nd of all HIS name should be capitalized, 3rd of all, JESUS was not a catholic, 4th of all, everyone is a sinner even Christians, the only difference is that we have faith in JESUS who we are saved through HIS work at the cross.
@scrap222666 LOL! Thought you had something huh?! God exists outside of time and space. He cannot be created! It's really not that complicated. It all boils down to ppl's refusal to believe in God. At the end of the day, God's existence doesn't depend on anyone's belief. He's real whether we want to believe it or not. There's no point in arguing if a bridge has a creator when we all know they, in fact, do. DONE!
@dougmoerhoffman Classic Apologetics, and no I really don't need to read any self proclaimed scientist who's goal from the onset is proving the young creation model. It defy's everything we understand about science. Maybe if Ray stoped lying about evolution I could tolerate being schooled on solving the red shift problem for the young creation view. Or, you could reasonably accept that people with PhD's understand what they are talking about. -Ex Xian
@scrap222666 So should we just conclude that everything God didn't mention in the Bible, He had nothing to do with? That's immature thinking. Do you even believe in the Bible? If not, your argument is pointless because you wouldn't believe it anyway. Proved by science? Science has been wrong countless times. Science doesn't have all the answers but God does. He is perfect, He is all knowing, and He is coming back again!
@Marsalis77 You're not answering the question. HOW do you know that chair had a builder? The answer is because we KNOW how chairs are built. We know of no natural explanation that can account for a chair forming. We DO, however, have natural explanations for much of what you want to attribute to a supernatural cause. There may be a god. I don't know. But if there is no need to use magic to explain something then why do it? YOU'RE the one over-complicating things.
As an American I've always been "Christian". Started out Lutheran, married a Catholic and attended Catholic Churches over the years. Mid 80's became a Pentecostal. 5 years ago attended Liberty University and am therefore "Baptist Educated". I'm a Christian, PERIOD and have found a lot of truth in the various Christian churches. We ALL pray to the same God on Sunday morning and we all think the "we" are right... I Love God and pray a lot and read the Bible daily. Which Church is "right"?
@pendulousphallus Yes, I did. America is NOT a Christian nation. America is a religious nation. America is a nation in which genuine Christians dwell among a plethora of false converts.
@JamesTheTank
The sentence you quoted does not say: "My circular arguments are not circular because my foundations are correct."
Thank you
You are right, when you live and breath Christ. His righteousness clothes you like a garment, with much Beauty and Glory. And those who see it, have been blessed by the Lord's grace . It testifies to their hearts that this faith is true. In this sense, Justification needs no explanation, because justification has been given freely in him.
@aveyowyns I watched it again, you're right, it was "My circular arguments are not circular because my foundation is correct" (4:33) same thing though.
@SquallAKALeon Thank you Leon, this is a breath of fresh air.
I just received my evidence study Bible, it’s so big it’s a little overwhelming, any idea of how to read it or where to start? I’ve been reading the word for 5 years and I still just kind of “decide “ where to read.
i love 180, ive been promoting it on facebook and in person!
@JamesTheTank Yeah, the fact that it's Way of the Master makes it clear they're being serious... it's simply that my brain has trouble reconciling the fact that people like this exist. These "arguments" are so devoid of logic or proof or anything it just makes my head swim.
"My arguements are not circular because my foundations are correct". Buddy, circular arguments don't have foundations, they're circular.
@Marsalis77 But how do you know that bridge had a creator? When you can answer that question you will understand why the analogy doesn't work with the natural world.
We have all sinned against a holy God. We have lied, stolen, and used His name as a cuss word. Since He is holy, he punishes sinners in the lake of fire.
But God is rich in mercy to all who call upon Him. Jesus suffered and died on the cross for your sins, taking the punishment on Himself. He rose again on the third day after He died.
“He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.”
Please repent and believe in this gospel alone for salvation. Come to Him.
Are these the actual arguments Christians use to "prove" they're right? Seriously? This isn't a joke?
"How do you know you're NOT living in a matrix?"
I don't. I act as though I'm not because there's no way to tell the difference. Same reason I act as though there's no "spiritual realm" or gods: nobody has been able to distinguish between spiritual and non-existent.
@scrap222666 Why are you focusing on the details of the bridge? Does the bridge exist? Yes? Ok, then there is a creator. There goes your analogy. We know there is a builder because there is a building. The fact that a creation exists, regardless of what it looks like, proves that there is a Creator.
how do find that catholicism is not biblically correct, mark?
@aveyowyns Thanks for reminding me about this video though, gonna post it to FB, good for the lols.
@dougmoerhoffman You know that the bridge had a creator because there are blueprints? Some bridges are very basic and have no blueprints. Are you suggesting that those ones did NOT have a creator? No, that is NOT how we know that bridges are created. Try again.
Dog spelled backwards is....
@dougmoerhoffman Wow, you're really smart. When I grow up can I be like you?
I Love God and Love Prayer. The comfort of communing with God gives my life purpose. If I had been born in the mountains of Pakistan I would still Love God and get comfort from communing with God. It would give my life purpose. Oh yeah, if I'd been born in Pakistan I would call God, "Allah". By being born in the "wrong" geographical location I guess I'd be doomed to an eternity in Hell? God would have played a pretty cruel joke on me. That seems to be what you are saying...
SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE
(NOTHING IN THE BEGINNING)
Dear ray,
Suppose, I took your photo. Now, time starts to your photo (1seccond, 2 sec... etc). So, before the time started to your photo (before the 1st second), it wasn't there.
Today, we know that, everything changes with time (earth, sun, stars...). So, everything comes under time.
Time has 2 attributes. Beginning and ending. So, everything had a beginning. Since they began, they change with respect to time.
So, before they began (before the 1st second), Scientifically they don't exist. So, there must me NOTHING before they began.
Nothing to everything is creating. As you said, all the combined intelligence of human cannot create a grain of sand from nothing.
So, the INTELLIGENT CREATIVE FORCE is THE CREATOR. GOD Created everything from nothing.
Love from India...
@stoicsquirrel Ummm...this is a tough one...hmmm...because there is a bridge! When you see a bridge, building, computer, chair or even a doorknob do you really question if there was a creator? Really?? Seriously?? It's common sense! What's the point of your argument when we all know that the bridge and the other things I mentioned in fact have a creator?!?! I promise it's really not that complicated! DONE!
@dougmoerhoffman Ray doesn't lie about evolution? I wish he were only uninformed, but he has been corrected multiple times and schooled on what evolution actually predicts, and it's not a crockaduck.
'Saints' are not omnipresent. They cannot hear your prayer. Even if they could, by praying to them, you assume that they can put a 'good word' in for you. This assumes that their prayer is better than yours. If you have true faith and trust in Jesus, and the prayer is in accordance with God's will, it will be answered sooner or later. The bible explains the trinity just fine, just not in a verse such as: "the trinity is..." The catechism is contrary to the bible in parts. Tradition is not
@dougmoerhoffman I'm only finding the PhD in Astrophysics... and his course of study is generally regarded as pseudo science. Anytime you are trying to prove something, rather than trying to discover the truth, you are not practicing science. If he was supporting his own theory, that didn't start with some rediculous premise like say "the universe is only a few thousands years old, because God said so" then he might be a scientist.
@xclosetohumanx They are quite serious. But they are also one of the few Xian youtube channels that doesn't block comments, which is awesome right? It's all rediculous of course, but not intended to be funny.
@alielbaryeshua Are you accusing Atheist of advocating suicide? Outside of an off comment in just, can you cite that ideology being spread, ever?
Many catholic traditions/teachings are not biblical. For instance prayer to so called saints, such as st. Anthony when you lose something. This is against the 2nd commandment, Exod 20:4-6. Similarly prayer to Mary. We are called to worship God alone, for He is a 'jealous God'. We are instructed "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do" Matt 6:7 Catholics have the rosary and often recite prayer from memory. Much of the catechism is not biblical, etc. There is more.
@dougmoerhoffman You are right, not his course of study, the concept which he trys to share. Pseuedo science because he's not practicing science, he's trying to make science fit into a god sized box, which as it turns out is pretty small. I'm not an Atheist btw, I just have very little respect for Abrahamic faiths.
@aveyowyns Really? What does it say? I'd rather not watch this again, once was quite enough.
@dougmoerhoffman Good thing I'm not a wretch. Even if I was, at least I don't think the world is 6,000 years old.
To ask a saint to pray for them is not idolitry. We ask saints for intercession. But The repitions are not in vein. how many time have you prayed the lords prayer? I bet more then once. look at psalms 136, alot of repition.
Much of the catechism is not Biblical because it is traditional. Nowhere in the Bible is the Trinity explained, one God in 3 persons. but this is a common knowledge amoung christians. If you deny this look into the Council of Nicea and The First Council of Constantinople.
look at all these atheist trying bagging on this video its so funny..
Tradition is not superior to the bible, nor is it on an equal playing field. go to item 100 of catechism which states that the task of interpreting the scripture is the pope and the bishops job. I direct you to: II Tim 2:15, Acts 17:11, John 5:39, I John 2:27, Acts 5:29, etc. give examples as to why we must not trust men to interpret God's revelations. Many of the catechism points can be disproved with the bible, many more strongly than this.
@AussieMaleTuber how dare you! 1st of all, u spelled it wrong! 2nd of all HIS name should be capitalized, 3rd of all, JESUS was not a catholic, 4th of all, everyone is a sinner even Christians, the only difference is that we have faith in JESUS who we are saved through HIS work at the cross.
@scrap222666 LOL! Thought you had something huh?! God exists outside of time and space. He cannot be created! It's really not that complicated. It all boils down to ppl's refusal to believe in God. At the end of the day, God's existence doesn't depend on anyone's belief. He's real whether we want to believe it or not. There's no point in arguing if a bridge has a creator when we all know they, in fact, do. DONE!
@dougmoerhoffman Classic Apologetics, and no I really don't need to read any self proclaimed scientist who's goal from the onset is proving the young creation model. It defy's everything we understand about science. Maybe if Ray stoped lying about evolution I could tolerate being schooled on solving the red shift problem for the young creation view. Or, you could reasonably accept that people with PhD's understand what they are talking about. -Ex Xian
@scrap222666 So should we just conclude that everything God didn't mention in the Bible, He had nothing to do with? That's immature thinking. Do you even believe in the Bible? If not, your argument is pointless because you wouldn't believe it anyway. Proved by science? Science has been wrong countless times. Science doesn't have all the answers but God does. He is perfect, He is all knowing, and He is coming back again!
So your right about stuffs because you believe your right about stuffs? How very teleological...
@Marsalis77 You're not answering the question. HOW do you know that chair had a builder? The answer is because we KNOW how chairs are built. We know of no natural explanation that can account for a chair forming. We DO, however, have natural explanations for much of what you want to attribute to a supernatural cause. There may be a god. I don't know. But if there is no need to use magic to explain something then why do it? YOU'RE the one over-complicating things.
You guys are well indoctrinated. This is like the bizarro atheist experience. It's like a car accident. I can't look away.
More Christian epic fail.