just orderd one for my rock bouncer i'm building just now, going in my crawler first though as why the hell not lol prob be a bit slow for it though as its got a 3200 kv motor in it and its not exactly fast with that in it, need to fire up the tig and finnish the bouncer!!
Would the newer Fusion SE be a better physical fit do you think. I believe it’s a little shorter. I guess I’ll find out as I’ve ordered one to fit to the CC-02 Unimog I’ll be building soon.
Installed one in my TRX-4 yesterday with 3S. What a difference. This thing is a beast when it comes to low speed torque. It’s like my Bronco didn’t even know what crawling was before.
The first setting would be like running sensored or sensorless. I think the cost is reasonable when you compare it to say a Castle Creations esc and motor or Tekin or Holmes hobby set up.
From what i understand it has an in built magnetic position sensor to measure the rotor then uses FOC to vary the Amp draw and control the output force directly rather than by proxy as in normal ESC's (eg some ESC's monitor and try to maintain power draw or velocity as part of their control loop wile FOC calculates the output force directly)
@@ajmarqueling Its absolutely amazing, good speed not too fast for a scale truck, unstoppable torque and a crawl speed as low as you would ever want to go. Highly recommended.
@@dave-j-k awesome thank you. I'm coming from a highly modified nitro Revo and I have to fight to resist making this thing too fast and ruin the fun crawling with this one
@@ajmarqueling I was pretty much the same, a few nitro cars and a Tamiya monster truck which was always too fast and the Nitro's needed flat ground. The TRX-4 and the Fusion is a real eye-opener and going slow over rough ground/rocks etc is far more fun than thrashing/bashing :) Battery life is insane - i use a single 3s Lipo and it will crawl / short sprint for about three hours
@@dave-j-k it's funny when I bought my Revo I bought it for my brother and it was set up kind of to be a rock crawler out in Arizona. I buy it and changed everything on it and now it does look 60 miles an hour and you can't play with it unless it's a big open area so I am glad to hear your advice and I'm looking forward to getting the trx4. Just seen FedEx that it will be delivered today :)
From my understanding setting the lipo to automatic and switching between 2s & 3s can be a little dodgy, i think it was something to do with the esc recognising a half charged 3s as a fully charged 2s and depleting the battery too much... Can’t fully remember!
Hi, I have a load of videos on the CC-02. You can find it in the playlists on the channel. I think I did an upgraded video. Brass on the front and replacement links and drive shafts.
don't know about that one but my mate has a dynamite one i think thats what it is any way and it's bloody awesome in his mardave go's like sh**t off a shovel as well wish i could find one for mine!!
On motors and from your experience what brushless set up could i use to replace my vintage Parma pro mod 17T double and MSC, this is in my Tamiya Terra Scorcher.
They can be dismantled. this video may also be of interest to some. Exocaged rc review of it, I think he opens it up. th-cam.com/video/0K1VVkxAi10/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ExocagedRC
I’ve always had mixed feelings about HW esc’s mostly related to the switch on all my race vehicles and my crawlers I usually lop off the switches (one less thing to fail) unfortunately HW puts their programming button and interface on the Switch lead on the flip side it’s super convenient to just hookup the programming card to the switch lead no unplugging of the receiver or bulky inline Bluetooth module (like my castle mamba X systems) only one I think that does the programming interface better is Tekin since they use a dedicated port on the ESC for the programmer. Definitely see the benefits of an all in 1 esc/motor combo especially for scale stuff that HW style is silky smooth 🍺😎👍🏽
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Awesome thanks for running these for a bit without extra audio, so we can hear the difference.
Gavin you are the first person i have ever seen show how to unplug a program card. loads show how to use them but never show unplugging
just orderd one for my rock bouncer i'm building just now, going in my crawler first though as why the hell not lol prob be a bit slow for it though as its got a 3200 kv motor in it and its not exactly fast with that in it, need to fire up the tig and finnish the bouncer!!
These are epic, you will not be disappointed.
Would the newer Fusion SE be a better physical fit do you think. I believe it’s a little shorter.
I guess I’ll find out as I’ve ordered one to fit to the CC-02 Unimog I’ll be building soon.
Great review. wouldnt have known an all in one was available had it not been for this vid. cheers mate
Most welcome. I was really impressed by this and would even spend my own money picking up a second one for my next 4x4 crawler build.
Installed one in my TRX-4 yesterday with 3S. What a difference. This thing is a beast when it comes to low speed torque. It’s like my Bronco didn’t even know what crawling was before.
Does it have a decent speed to it aswell? Or is it still slow
That looks a good overall package &'it's very neat &'tidy setup. 👍
My go to motor for a crawler is usually a 35 or 45 turn motor. I have started to look into 5 slot motors I have a 16 turn in 5 slot.
The first setting would be like running sensored or sensorless. I think the cost is reasonable when you compare it to say a Castle Creations esc and motor or Tekin or Holmes hobby set up.
Like a TV/VCR combo, good ideas never go out of fashion ...wait.
@gavin try driving it with the accelerator trim. Let’s you focus on steering only
Cool. In getting one to put in ftx Fury Xtreme. Should be awesome
Put the cap head screw from the inside out and use the m lock nut on the outside of the rail, then you may not have to remove any material?
From what I gather the hobbywing crawler sensor works off the motor amp draw/ or wheel speed rather than the rotor position.
From what i understand it has an in built magnetic position sensor to measure the rotor then uses FOC to vary the Amp draw and control the output force directly rather than by proxy as in normal ESC's (eg some ESC's monitor and try to maintain power draw or velocity as part of their control loop wile FOC calculates the output force directly)
Holmes hobbies has a review of the hobbywing axe system and explains how the sensor works on them
looks like a really good quality setup and i really like the 3s capability
The hobbywing fusion is really fantastic, but the dimensions (includes the esc) isn't friendly to most tamiya chassics.
Do you recommend the 1200KV or 1800KV for the CC-02?
Great video, just bought a TRX-4 and a Fusion 1800 to go in it as a 1st crawler - hopefully i'll be just as impressed :)
I'm thinking of doing the same thing. What do you think of the setup
@@ajmarqueling Its absolutely amazing, good speed not too fast for a scale truck, unstoppable torque and a crawl speed as low as you would ever want to go. Highly recommended.
@@dave-j-k awesome thank you. I'm coming from a highly modified nitro Revo and I have to fight to resist making this thing too fast and ruin the fun crawling with this one
@@ajmarqueling I was pretty much the same, a few nitro cars and a Tamiya monster truck which was always too fast and the Nitro's needed flat ground. The TRX-4 and the Fusion is a real eye-opener and going slow over rough ground/rocks etc is far more fun than thrashing/bashing :) Battery life is insane - i use a single 3s Lipo and it will crawl / short sprint for about three hours
@@dave-j-k it's funny when I bought my Revo I bought it for my brother and it was set up kind of to be a rock crawler out in Arizona. I buy it and changed everything on it and now it does look 60 miles an hour and you can't play with it unless it's a big open area so I am glad to hear your advice and I'm looking forward to getting the trx4. Just seen FedEx that it will be delivered today :)
From my understanding setting the lipo to automatic and switching between 2s & 3s can be a little dodgy, i think it was something to do with the esc recognising a half charged 3s as a fully charged 2s and depleting the battery too much... Can’t fully remember!
Seems pretty good just a shame about the size issue and fitment.
nice fiat barchetta there... maybe should be one day "in the show".
Hi gavin noticed some mods to your CC02 in this video is there a video about these I missed or are you gonna do one . cheers
Hi, I have a load of videos on the CC-02. You can find it in the playlists on the channel. I think I did an upgraded video. Brass on the front and replacement links and drive shafts.
don't know about that one but my mate has a dynamite one i think thats what it is any way and it's bloody awesome in his mardave go's like sh**t off a shovel as well wish i could find one for mine!!
On motors and from your experience what brushless set up could i use to replace my vintage Parma pro mod 17T double and MSC, this is in my Tamiya Terra Scorcher.
I wonder if those would be upgradeable at all, or if they are completely sealed and can't have any changes made.
They can be dismantled. this video may also be of interest to some. Exocaged rc review of it, I think he opens it up. th-cam.com/video/0K1VVkxAi10/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ExocagedRC
Hi there I an building a Tamiya 1/14 Scania 770s truck. would the hobbywings fusion ESC motor combo be suitable for my truck? many thanks
It’s a 550 size so not sure you will have the length so that’s something to check.
@@RCKickschannel Ok will check the length but if it does fit would it be suitable for my truck many thanks
Is this unit the same length as a normal 540?. Would it fit in an Avante for example?
Thanks
No it’s more like a 550 motor so no chance in an Avante
Wish it was the actual normal size of a 540 can. I'd throw one in my VS4-10.
Trouble is , if esc blows no motor left or vice versa, with the normal setup, if one blows you still have the other componant.
I’ve always had mixed feelings about HW esc’s mostly related to the switch on all my race vehicles and my crawlers I usually lop off the switches (one less thing to fail) unfortunately HW puts their programming button and interface on the Switch lead on the flip side it’s super convenient to just hookup the programming card to the switch lead no unplugging of the receiver or bulky inline Bluetooth module (like my castle mamba X systems) only one I think that does the programming interface better is Tekin since they use a dedicated port on the ESC for the programmer.
Definitely see the benefits of an all in 1 esc/motor combo especially for scale stuff that HW style is silky smooth
🍺😎👍🏽
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@@RCKickschannel i was trying to buy radio gear and a charger. Maybe I didn't spend enough.
Kyosho hade the same product already 5-6 jears ago, dDrive .
I think Orion Also had one but they were sensorless in operation.
@@Warwick3511 that is the one i mean. Team Orion dDrive . Team Orion belongs to kyosho. 👍😎
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@@h-jg7730 Thanks for that it fills me more into the details of it.
You should try it on rocks. 😁
Crawlers are very popular by the older peoples.
Thats expensive
Mine was sponsored by Sparky dog Sparky dog Hobbies us just so that y'all know I didn't spend my own money I spend Sparky dogs funding twice as fast as I walk sounds like Sparky. mii my Mo Money Team she's a creeper all right creepy Gavin can you do a Halloween special please Aerospace technology Jesus