HOW TO REPAIR A LATHE MACHINE BACK GEAR | FIRE METAL

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  • @MrPanaramuh
    @MrPanaramuh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Finally. An actual usable gear repair done that isn't made from epoxy or wax that seems like it'd still be usable. Good job.

    • @boosacknoodle6225
      @boosacknoodle6225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Depends on the use.

    • @Kk385
      @Kk385 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Won’t last at all, material is to soft.

    • @OttoByOgraffey
      @OttoByOgraffey 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Kk385*too soft

    • @ДмитрийНовиков-в5д
      @ДмитрийНовиков-в5д 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Горемастер, на такие штифты зубы в челюсть садят, вся эта херня что он напаял из разного метала - развалится, такой ремонт в народе называют - из говна и палок.

  • @BudoReflex
    @BudoReflex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Best gear repair i have seen. The bolts, tapping, and precision cutting! I see it is a low speed gear; I would trust this repair.

  • @Mthomas71188
    @Mthomas71188 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    We all know it’s not going to last but if it lasts long enough to make a new one then excellent. Very skilled guy

    • @donalfinn4205
      @donalfinn4205 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It might last a lot longer than you think. Don’t be negative!

    • @jeffbeck9347
      @jeffbeck9347 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If the repair results in an income that's more than the price of the repair, then it is worth it. This is not the first time this repair is done in places like this and they keep on doing it so therefore, the repair is worth it.

    • @timnickol8679
      @timnickol8679 ปีที่แล้ว

      You remind of an old saying. "Those that cannot do, bitch".

    • @PlasticCogLiquid
      @PlasticCogLiquid ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The original OEM one didn't last either, so what's the expectation?

    • @Mthomas71188
      @Mthomas71188 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@PlasticCogLiquid complete and total failure under heavy load.

  • @cujet
    @cujet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    That came out considerably better than I expected. Thanks for showing this.

  • @rcfokker1630
    @rcfokker1630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +334

    In Gosport, England, there is a submarine museum.
    On display, they have a large bronze bevel gear, which belonged to a WW One submarine. This gear drove some vital piece of equipment ... I forget what the machinery was.
    A number of teeth were stripped from this bevel gear, and the result was the submarine was unable to surface. The submarine became stranded on the sea-bed.
    Artificers on board, drilled and tapped holes in the gear, in a similar way to what you have done. They then filed new teeth on the gear, such that the machinery was able to be put back into operation ... and the submarine was able to reach the surface.
    Talk about 'being under pressure'.

    • @millionmiler
      @millionmiler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      sounds like Das Boot material

    • @pharaon6718
      @pharaon6718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sounds like that never happened event

    • @rcfokker1630
      @rcfokker1630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@pharaon6718 Go take a look. The museum is at HMS Dolphin, the submarine base.

    • @chrisunderhill6527
      @chrisunderhill6527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I live in Gosport, and have seen the item in question. The story is close - although the gear was repaired using deck plate. The gear was part of the drive train and prevented the submarine moving under power, but she wasn't stranded on the sea bed. The repair held up until a replacement part could be shipped out to the submarine.

    • @Hertog_von_Berkshire
      @Hertog_von_Berkshire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have to guess that the broken gear was part of the operating mechanism for the fore or aft planes; the wing-like projections that allow a submarine's "angle of dangle" to be controlled.

  • @juancampos1826
    @juancampos1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this kind of idea comes out of necessity; people in Latin America do come up with some good ideas for many problems like this; here in the states, we are so used to just exchanging parts and not doing many repairs, great Idea sir.
    thank you for sharing.

  • @mikef.1000
    @mikef.1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great job... using very worn out equipment! All the parts rocking around on the bed of that lathe. Good work too for making the best with what you have -- respect!!

  • @sharifslife518
    @sharifslife518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ভাই আপনাকে অনেক ধন্যবাদ সুন্দর একটি কাজের মডিপাই দেখলাম।

  • @davidhuff5632
    @davidhuff5632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Reminds me of back country trail repairs. Sometimes the fix only has to last a little while, but I have temporary fixes outlast the original part. Good for these guys for not giving up and abandoning the project.

    • @telwood15
      @telwood15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's a good chance this fix will last.

  • @mohabatkhanmalak1161
    @mohabatkhanmalak1161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Very much impressed by your "root canal" metal dentistry. I like your technique, thanks for posting.

    • @KallePihlajasaari
      @KallePihlajasaari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More like a post crown treatment.

    • @mikeh6286
      @mikeh6286 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dentistry haha, love that!

  • @johncrowley5612
    @johncrowley5612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Your ingenuity is exceeded only by your patience. Well done.

    • @LifesAbe-ach
      @LifesAbe-ach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ingenuity pmsl seen this done in the 80s without using machinery to cut the teeth by a 70 year old pit fitter using a hacksaw and files .

    • @pufango4059
      @pufango4059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What patience ?

  • @IntegraDIY
    @IntegraDIY 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    how does the soft braze last compared to the original cast iron? i. sure it’s very low torque and rpm.. or else that would fail fast

    • @KodiakWoodchuck
      @KodiakWoodchuck 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a very common way to repair cast iron. When is done right it's almost as strong as the original material and the braze is rarely what fails. Keith Rucker does a lot of these repairs on TH-cam and explains a lot of it in detail if you want to look it up

  • @patriciabranch9276
    @patriciabranch9276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing Teaneck you are a very smart man. I've never seen some body do that before.
    Thank you for teaching me.
    Thank you again. I look forward to seeing what you finish again.

  • @SW-qr8qe
    @SW-qr8qe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a mechanical engineer and I approve this. The man’s made a shaping machine out of his lathe tool post. Shaping machines are used to cut gears. It’s good enough for its intended purpose

  • @joels7605
    @joels7605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    Drilling and tapping the holes, then installing the bolts is an excellent trick for cast and difficult to weld materials. Thank you.

    • @timothywhieldon1971
      @timothywhieldon1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      only for those who cant weld...

    • @jeanpierreperret7783
      @jeanpierreperret7783 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timothywhieldon1971 ]

    • @davidhooper3821
      @davidhooper3821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is a small gear, you can easily preheat that and weld it

    • @timothywhieldon1971
      @timothywhieldon1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidhooper3821 you are clueless, the only decent solution for CAST IRON is silica bronze braze as it does not melt the parent material making it brittle. the issue is that its not ideal for teeth of a gear when you can braze on actual cast iron but its not as strong of a bond as again the base parent material is brittle at the joint. so depending on what is needed (duty of the gear) one or the other is good, what was done here is NOT silica bronze but rather a cast brass brazing rod and that WILL crack and is very weak as you can see by the cutting of it. what are you suggesting you WELD IT WITH? a MIG? machine Stick rods? you are so ignorant, please either elaborate or keep your dumb comments to yourself.

    • @timwheeler1503
      @timwheeler1503 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidhooper3821 Possibly but nickel rods are so expensive any more and for a back gear I think if he takes it easy on the lathe he probably will never have a issue with his repair.

  • @ags30mm
    @ags30mm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work!
    First few minutes I wasn't sure where did this video came from.
    And then I saw the bare feet holding the electrodes and it all got clear.

  • @GaisaSanktejo
    @GaisaSanktejo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    An interesting soluition to an annoyingly common problem. I saw you had previously repaired that gear and since they held up, I know the repair will hold.
    Very nicely done!

    • @lopezlopez7132
      @lopezlopez7132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Of course it will hold... until it's used...

    • @howardosborne8647
      @howardosborne8647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lopezlopez7132 And hold for a long time in use. It is an school old technique well proven to work reliably

    • @alpyre
      @alpyre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@howardosborne8647 You really think replacing the hardened steel teeth of a gear which couldn't bear the stress and broke with copper teeth will hold?

    • @stevenswenson7041
      @stevenswenson7041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alpyre pronze ...and bronze can be as tough as steel if not as hard. I would imagine some wear on those teeth ut take a while.

  • @celestialbeas9214
    @celestialbeas9214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That is an incredibly inventive way of handling that. nicely done!

  • @richardpalmer6196
    @richardpalmer6196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    A true repairman, not just a parts replacer . 👍

    • @MVG1982
      @MVG1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is niks repareren aan en ik zal dit niet eens ergens in willen hebben want die plek is veel te zwak vergeleken met de rest. Het probleem is voor hun is dat ze niet anders kunnen of om aan onderdelen komen. Wil je het goed doen dan draai je helemaal een nieuwe. Voor ons is het goedkoper om een nieuwe te kopen voor paar tientje in vergelijking kwa werk en kosten. De oude word weer gerecycled voor andere doeleinden. Maar dit nee over half weer naar de klote.

    • @skirnir-atf
      @skirnir-atf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do same for gerbox, but use TIG and inconel filament.
      Can tell you truth - it`s bull shit. Teath not hard enough fore normal operation. Only to sell somebody, cause after 2 monthe of work it`s worn out.

    • @3D_Kam
      @3D_Kam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      вы туалетную бумагу тоже ремонтируете, вместо того чтобы выбросить?

    • @skirnir-atf
      @skirnir-atf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@3D_Kam
      Вот и я ро то самое. Мягкой латунью зубы напаять - совсем тупые.

  • @vidojearsic6746
    @vidojearsic6746 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brate svaka ti čast!!! Odgledao sam sve od početka do kraja! Ja bi otišao na otpad da nadjem drugi deo

  • @MrDejast
    @MrDejast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Maintaining equipment is more important than repair or replacement. Good job making this gear usable again.

  • @TalRohan
    @TalRohan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool process, the happy music at the end was a loud surprise lol
    Thanks for sharing ...This is something I will try out

  • @pgjuzek
    @pgjuzek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    very nice! I was expecting something terrible after initial angle grinder shots, but then you got me back with cutting the right gear tooth geometry. I salute you!

  • @machineryexchange
    @machineryexchange 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i didnt know what to expect ... selling machinery like this and seeing gears broken like this and the cost to repair/ replace the parts and to see this same repair done.... great job

  • @heyyoubuddy6749
    @heyyoubuddy6749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Fanatic job well done sir!! I saw my grandpa do the very same thing to a broken gear from one of his machines. It’s nice to see something old and broken be put back into service. Thanks for sharing God bless you and yours.

  • @johnnyfannucci
    @johnnyfannucci 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I used to repair window regulators like this back in the late 70’s. I also used to call it dentistry. I was about 18 and never heard of this technique.
    To me it just made sense. That’s the good thing about being a kid. At the time nobody I knew had used a mig welder. So it was brazing everything

    • @onazram1
      @onazram1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You certainly don't need to go this far to fix the skinny teeth on a window regulator, just build the weld up and
      re-grind the profile with a cut off wheel and maybe some files. Done it many times on antique vehicles....

    • @johnnyfannucci
      @johnnyfannucci 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@onazram1
      We didn’t have a mig back then

    • @onazram1
      @onazram1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnyfannucci That would make it more difficult for sure

    • @jakefriesenjake
      @jakefriesenjake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I fixed my electric regulators about 16 years ago. I'm still building the car!
      I ended up going with full manual windows instead in my 81 Z28

    • @tacticalant3841
      @tacticalant3841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea, in the 80’s I had no welder, so i brazed EVERYTHING!

  • @willtricks9432
    @willtricks9432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The whole process and techniques are excellent, I learned something new today. Cheers

  • @buttonman6262
    @buttonman6262 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice work!👌🏻

  • @woodworkingbrazil8446
    @woodworkingbrazil8446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Honestly, watching this kind of video puts me in my place. How much I have to learn. Thanks for sharing!

  • @salvatorefilograna
    @salvatorefilograna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally something really interesting on TH-cam, congratulations !!

  • @johndilsaver8409
    @johndilsaver8409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Well done. I have a lathe with a similar type of repair which has held up for me over many years. Thanks for posting this!

    • @evanpenny348
      @evanpenny348 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great. One interesting thing however is why if a bronze repair is so all fire good why gears are not made of all cast bronze. Does anyone know?

    • @BrassLock
      @BrassLock 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evanpenny348 Because the price of lathes would far exceed the wallet of the consumer. Henry Ford eliminated expensive brass radiators and fittings from his early model T cars, so that later versions of the same model T were about half the cost to the consumer, thus triggering the Automobile Revolution. He sold 15 Million model T's as a result, which was a staggering achievement in the 1920's
      Nowadays the Chinese are using cheap materials and techniques to make their products so affordable, that the consumer has a terrible dilemma: _"Do I buy a reliable German machine or a cheap Chinese knock-off🤔🤔🤔"_

    • @evanpenny348
      @evanpenny348 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BrassLock Good point

    • @IlluminaAssel
      @IlluminaAssel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BrassLock please be careful with your suggestions!
      I'm from Austria, so I know pretty well what it means to buy a good car with qualitative parts build in.
      Today we are at a point, where not every German car has to be better than a car from somewhere else.
      Yeah, Chinese cars are complicated..
      On one hand, they aren't seen very often here in Europe, because the search for replacements is ridiculously hard and yes, there are that many better cars, but the most Chinese ones..
      But on the other hand there aren't many German cars anymore, which are build from nothing but German parts, not even cars that are mostly build from parts made somewhere in Europe.. I think more than 80% of the German cars are mostly build of Chinese crafted parts, what tells us a few things:
      1. The Chinese definitely made some of the worst, but also some of the best materials and parts for different products.
      2. The fact, that many cars are still put together in Germany or at least Europe, may be a big point in all of this. The controle mechanisms are very thought through and each and every part will be handled and put together with much more care, than it's the case with many other car factories in other countries and they will be combined with parts made in Europe or Germany.
      To spend more money will set the chances very high, that you will get a very solid German car, but don't let yourself fool by old and glorified names, because many things have changed. Today the German automobilindusrtie isn't the same as 20 ago so please.. always research! Don't buy just because it's German!

    • @BrassLock
      @BrassLock 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IlluminaAssel Everyone here has the right to express a personal opinion, provided it doesn't endanger other's wellbeing.
      ● A personal opinion is not a _suggestion_ for others to take action.
      ● A personal opinion is not _advising_ others to take action.
      @illuminaAssel • Please be aware of these simple, obvious faults in your discussion, and correct them when addressing me personally. Thank you.

  • @pedromiguelruizvergara3341
    @pedromiguelruizvergara3341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gracias amigazo saludos desde Colombia.

  • @richardmorton4762
    @richardmorton4762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The braze would be quite soft compared to the rest of the gear, but if it work, fantastic! 👍

  • @dummycrash
    @dummycrash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greate work and Nice to see👍

  • @BITTYBOY121
    @BITTYBOY121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Very good repair ! - You used your lathe as a shaper ! - Great idea - Well done man 👍👍👍

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've done it for keyways on gears and pulleys; works amazingly well, if a bit tedious.

    • @BITTYBOY121
      @BITTYBOY121 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@UncleKennysPlace but rewarding in the end once you've got your key way done ! :o)

  • @sekarshanmugam179
    @sekarshanmugam179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    30 Years before I met the same problem in my lathe gear.I have done the same work .but I am using ms welding rod and file it the gear teeth.Still no problem in this gear.

  • @georgespangler1517
    @georgespangler1517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That's impressive,, l buy and restore vintage lathes,, I'll never be worried about broken gear teeth again thanks for the lesson.

    • @jkucukov
      @jkucukov 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got a 1911 Von Wyck lathe with a broken gear like this.

    • @georgespangler1517
      @georgespangler1517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jkucukov well this repair vedio should give you hope on fixing it,, you can mig are Arch weld it also,, l did a smaller gear with one missing tooth with mig and you con concentrate the weld more and not have to use screws just cut groove with cut off wheel for weld and then use a file to shape it.

  • @samuraidf
    @samuraidf ปีที่แล้ว

    Finalmente alguém que sabe fazer o reparo da forma correta.

  • @jimmcknight1189
    @jimmcknight1189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I used to have an old Atlas lathe (before it became Sears Craftsman) that had a back gear pin gear like that one. It also had a series of holes on the flat face of that gear toward the chuck that you could use the headstock as a divider. There was a retractable pin that went in that fixed the position that was accessed outside of the drive housing. Your use of the lathe as a manual shaper is pretty cool. You also did good by putting in those screws in the cast iron before brazing. There is a nickel type welding rod you can use in place of brazing for cast iron. For gears, brazing is so much better.
    This is a nice post of this sort of metalworking trick. Thank you for posting.

    • @pcka12
      @pcka12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I used to have a Halifax 524 lathe (read Atlas if in US), it is sadly missed, but I chose to keep my children (then aged 9 & 11) & so I lost the lathe.

    • @jessebreck9
      @jessebreck9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pinohaxk628 Who asked you to reply so rudely?

  • @daltonmann4916
    @daltonmann4916 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is the best "thinking outside the box!" example i have seen in a long time!

  • @suprym
    @suprym 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Интересный способ, как я понял - шестерня из чугуна и поэтому не наплавлял элекстродами, глядя на "износ" зубьев можно сказать что это не нагруженная(об этом говорит и то из чего она сделана) шестерня а сломались из за чп какого-нить. Бронза/латунь канешь не настолько прочна и поэтому вставлены болты для усиления, зато она лучше скользит в отличии от сыромятины металлической. Думаю шанс что она походит есть, способу быть.

    • @brattri3
      @brattri3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Временное решение для того чтобы оборудование не простаивало пока придет нормальная деталь.

  • @ionburlacu3083
    @ionburlacu3083 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nevoia te învață. BRAVO. Nota 10.

  • @vasillek
    @vasillek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    С таким успехом можно было просто пластилином заклеять и сделать зубы результат один и тот же был!

    • @приключенияКалиостро
      @приключенияКалиостро 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Эволюция диайвайщиков. Термоклей заменили на латунный припой.

    • @Samkr07
      @Samkr07 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      еще и профиль зуба не совпадает,шестерня не садится

    • @ivan_filimonoff
      @ivan_filimonoff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Samkr07 по месту притрётся!

    • @SWOG_WOGS
      @SWOG_WOGS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Вы чё доебались "умники"? Среди всех коментов, только рускоязычные отличились своей "невъебенной продвинутостью".
      Бля, там люди тоже понимают, что это залипуха, но когда страна нищая и люди, быть может, последний хуй без соли доедают, или просто недоступно новое, или нет соответствующих ресурсов для качественного восстановления, то сгодится всё, что сможет поддержать работоспособность хоть на какое-то ещё время.
      Постыдились бы - люди хоть как-то выходят из положения, а не хуи пинают.

    • @Васёк-д7р
      @Васёк-д7р 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Мастер просто мало курнул, покурит как следует, и сделает из пластилина, как учили.

  • @samodio586
    @samodio586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In a throw away world, absolutely beautiful to watch

  • @Funco1979
    @Funco1979 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We did this at TAFE (technical college) during my apprenticeship and it's called "pegging".
    I had to do it in an emergency situation at work once to keep production going.
    We also made a whole spur gear from scratch at TAFE - turned the blank on the lathe then cut the teeth on the milling machine using the indexing head.

  • @BallBusta
    @BallBusta 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not a bad temporary fix. I'll last long enough for you to replace the whole gear. Nicely done.

  • @user-qk4ur2cu1j
    @user-qk4ur2cu1j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Для тех,кто не понял зачем это всё,должен помнить,что обломанные зубья шестерни из литья (чугуна),гараздо слабее чем болты из сырца и наплавленной бронзы....

  • @gabrielantoniea9913
    @gabrielantoniea9913 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uimitor de bn numai sa fie eficiena lucrarea,Super

  • @chipwright6193
    @chipwright6193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    My boss did that to the back gear on his small Sheldon lathe many years ago. They are still using it. It's probably lasted 30 years or more.

  • @rotax636nut5
    @rotax636nut5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Smart man, nailed that repair!

  • @robertheck6747
    @robertheck6747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very good job. The tapped brass screws provided a good foundation. I've had good luck brazing cast. I like this process better than the preheating and the nie rod.

    • @FairladyS130
      @FairladyS130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The screws were steel, adds more strength too.

    • @johngilbert6810
      @johngilbert6810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the steel teeth broke the brass teeth will break even sooner. Nothing to be learned here unless you have dirt floors and no shoes

    • @robertheck6747
      @robertheck6747 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johngilbert6810 I think the brass would be more maluable and less likely to break like brittle cast steel. I could for any method of repairing broken cast, simply because of the process of welding cast. It's a lot of work for it to fail in the end because of a little bit of cool air causing it to crack.

  • @stevencoyne4971
    @stevencoyne4971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Old School ,well done !!👍👍👏👏👏

  • @плиточниквольный
    @плиточниквольный 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is economically advantageous in countries where the work of a locksmith costs $ 10 for a 12-hour working day, and CNC machines have not even been seen in pictures.

    • @плиточниквольный
      @плиточниквольный 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @canreplace в точку! Элемент путинской стабильности, как наследницы брежневского застоя.

  • @zlaya164
    @zlaya164 ปีที่แล้ว

    This realy presentation how pour people inventive and use brein to simple solwe problem!
    my respect!
    gret job!

  • @stuartmccall5474
    @stuartmccall5474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Absolutely brilliant as a "field repair" which was driven by necessity. Faced with the circumstances of what he had before which was "totally fuck8d-up" he now has something which, with a bit of tweeking with a set of Swiss files and engineer's "marking blue", enables him to use the machine. Is the lathe going to be as good as new, obviously not, but with careful usage he can now do things with it that in it's previous state was impossible. Necessity is always the mother of invention. Greetings from the UK !.

  • @WolfgangTrittin
    @WolfgangTrittin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Eine gute Idee.....in der Not frist der Teufel Fliegen. Das Material von dem Zahnrad ist wohl sehr weich und das eingelötete Messing auch. Bald wird es in dem Zahnrad nur noch Messingschrauben geben .
    Nun gut wahrscheinlich wird dieses reparierte Zahnrad jetzt noch mal weitere 100 Jahre funktionieren. Also, eine gute Arbeit.
    Germany

  • @TTPistole
    @TTPistole 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    И долго такая латунная заплатка прослужит ? А электросварки вообще нет, чтоб то же самое но нормально сделать ?

    • @evgeniyblinov4948
      @evgeniyblinov4948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Нельзя нормально, отзывов мало будет. В целом просто бред конечно.

    • @леонидрешетов-о2з
      @леонидрешетов-о2з 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Мне тоже кажется что всё это сизифов труд. Для большей эпичности зубья надо было выпиливать надфилем.

    • @weldermusk8860
      @weldermusk8860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Электросварка невозможна так как это по видимому чугун, при сварке место сварки закалится и зубья невозможно нарезать. Он все сделал правильно. Имейте в виду что это ж не завод и технологические возможности ограничены. Но раньше и ваши отцы так делали, просто вы отупели от деидустриализации. Сидите за компами и даже сверла заточить не умеете.

    • @SWOG_WOGS
      @SWOG_WOGS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@weldermusk8860 Плюсую под каждым словом.
      Для себя отметил, что только русскоязычные отметились своей "невъебенной продвинутостью" и критикой.
      Ска, да посмотрели бы как в России что "умельцы" сотворяют с новой техникой и гробят её, а уж про "реставрацию" чего-то вообще промолчим. Хотя, да - не все жопорукие, но дохуя и больше.
      Тут люди со скромными ресурсами и возможностями и хоть как-то выходят из положения, но обязательно находятся те, кому нужно всё обосрать в силу своей ограниченности и тупизма.
      Да, это чугуний и чел всё правильно сделал, как смог. Зубья притрутся, а пока сотрутся или сломаются либо новое успеют заказать, либо повторят потом процесс; факт в другом - работа механизма не останавливается надолго, люди дорожат работой и временем простоя.

  • @moustick2025
    @moustick2025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow that is a clever idea for the repair. Thank you for sharing.

  • @marcmckenzie5110
    @marcmckenzie5110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    @Fire Metal, I’m very impressed! Your whole approach to this problem was creative, great use of brazing, and turning your lathe into essentially a shaper with a rotary table is the cleverest thing I’ve seen in a long time. Best of luck on your TH-cam channel. 👍🏼😁

    • @firemetal2376
      @firemetal2376  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank You | Marc McKenzie

    • @GamingHelp
      @GamingHelp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's exactly what *I* was thinking too. This was brilliant in every way.

  • @gestoriaradicacionradicaci9315
    @gestoriaradicacionradicaci9315 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congratulations for that job,I remmenber when I was the techinical school,I wached the instructor, maked a job liked this.Greeting from Uruguay 🇺🇾🇺🇾

  • @MojoPup
    @MojoPup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    With all the safety regulations we have to observe here in the states...I LOVE how this machinist is sitting there cross-legged in shorts welding this gear up! Just doing what he has to.

    • @thenormalyears
      @thenormalyears 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes you office workers have a weird fetish about seeing blue collar people get hurt on the job

  • @ronnyvanderwee417
    @ronnyvanderwee417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm very impressed . Well done !!! BRAVO !

  • @creativerecycling
    @creativerecycling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Yep, that’s the way the Master Machinist I apprenticed under taught me. Turn the carriage of the lathe onto a shaper with a boring bar and a form tool. Waaay quicker than having a new gear made.

    • @lost4468yt
      @lost4468yt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you know that not every place on the planet is under the same economic pressures as conditions as you?

    • @6181green
      @6181green 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lost4468yt I'm not sure what you are trying to say the original comment was just describing the process in the video more or less saying the master machinist he was an apprentice for taught him the same method to save money instead of having to have a whole new gear made

    • @masterpython
      @masterpython 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Needing a machine up and running faster than the days to weeks it will take to get a new part in isn't that high pressure. On a decades old machine it might be the only option.

    • @lost4468yt
      @lost4468yt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@6181green I thought they were being sarcastic.

  • @dennisr.d.mascarenas3886
    @dennisr.d.mascarenas3886 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect.. All the best from Colorado USA.. 👍😎

  • @richardsprojects
    @richardsprojects 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I remember learning this technique as an apprentice, it works better with thicker studs which slightly interlock , you dont need to braze then

    • @somebodyelse6673
      @somebodyelse6673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are you saying the gear teeth would be formed completely out of stud shafts, no brazing needed to make the tooth shape? I can't picture that, especially with the small amount of material those studs could be seated in. I think the brazing is just as much to reinforce that thin "rim" and the bolt shafts, as it is to provide material for the tooth profile.
      If the gear was the same thickness from shaft to outside flange, there would be enough meat to support the studs, but I don't see that thin flange surviving the torque on a back gear. Cast iron is too brittle for the small amount of material in that flange to hold up.

    • @haroldmedalen6757
      @haroldmedalen6757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I have a Smith and Mills 17" shaper that is probably 100 years old. It has several broken teeth in the crossfeed drive gear that have been repaired, who knows how many years ago, by exactly the method you describe. The studs interlock slightly, they haven't been welded or brazed. It appears that the studs were filed to shape. The gear is pretty fine, the teeth are less than an 1/8" thick. The machine works just fine. I don't subject it to heavy use, but it was worked plenty hard in the past.
      I have also seen the same repair on several similar sized gear teeth on a 13" Southbend lathe. It probably started out as an emergency repair, but worked well enough that they never bothered to replace the gear.
      We are so used to the landfill economy and throwing everything away and buying new that people are horrified at thought of the terrible things that might possibly happen as a result of some guy in a third world country making do with what he has and repairing an expensive or hard to find part. I swear, if our knuckleheaded banksters and politicians manage to blow the world up one of these days, it will be the barefoot mechanics of the third world that pick up the pieces and put it back together.

    • @_MadFox
      @_MadFox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@haroldmedalen6757 You have no idea how right you are. I have a milling machine of the German company Biernatzki, this year it turned more than 80 years old. And this is quite a working and accurate machine, which I completely disassembled and repaired with my own hands. And this company no longer exists. Such a rarity from the past.

    • @haroldmedalen6757
      @haroldmedalen6757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @somebody else Both the gear on my shaper and the one on the lathe are done with the row of studs alone. The studs very nearly overlap and it looks like they were hand filed to the proper profile. The work is very finely done. It is possible that they were both done by the same person, as both machines have been in our somewhat isolated town for many years. I haven't found anyone who knows anything about the history of the repairs. I expect they were done back in the days when we had one steamship a week, not daily air service like today. If a part was damaged or failed and you needed the machine, you would have had to figure out how to fix it and keep it going however you were able. I think this guy's repair brazing over the studs, then cutting the teeth to shape with the tool in the lathe is probably a more durable repair by far than the studs alone, but I know I could run my shaper all day without any problems from the repaired gear. (Knock on wood!)

    • @johnh8615
      @johnh8615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In my trade we had bronze rod high strength nickel alloy that I use to braze tungsten teeth to 1 metre cutting wheels . These rods are recommended by the manufacturer to repair or replace missing teeth on gears and also for high strength brazing .

  • @samadsamad9453
    @samadsamad9453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work by qualified worker👍👍

  • @somebodyelse6673
    @somebodyelse6673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For the shaping of the teeth, it will be very worth your time to deal with the slop in the toolpost, topslide, and however you had the gear fastened to the chuck. The part moved several times, the boring bar was pushed away from the gear way more than it should have been, and the topslide rocking on the carriage made me watch several times because I couldn't believe it was moving that much.
    The way you're going about that repair is perfectly fine, and a nice job on the brazing. But, you'll get much better results if you can fix the rigidity of the setup.

    • @CM-xr9oq
      @CM-xr9oq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      b;ah blah blah.

    • @somebodyelse6673
      @somebodyelse6673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CM-xr9oq - So useful! Do you have any other wisdom to share?

    • @_MadFox
      @_MadFox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@somebodyelse6673 his weapon is an ass and a puddle to blow bubbles😁

    • @MsRustynuts
      @MsRustynuts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This guy is in a poor third world country and probably hasn't shoes on his feet. He's done very well considering the circumstances 👏

    • @chele-chele
      @chele-chele 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MsRustynuts India is hardly third world. In fact, your medication is probably produced there and the have a nuclear weapons program, ICBMs, huge industry and a vast infrastructure. You act as if he's in some African shithole...

  • @eng.husseinalyunos4392
    @eng.husseinalyunos4392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    شكراااا طريقة لا تخطر على بال احد....طريقة ذكية جدا احسنتم استاذي

  • @michaelagnew3563
    @michaelagnew3563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    weld it up with cast rods steel and cast don,t mix that well !And if you brase it you should heat the whole piece up and keep it heated .

    • @mohabatkhanmalak1161
      @mohabatkhanmalak1161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its a lathe part, so a slow speed and low torque application. I think it will hold well.

    • @DimitriosLazaridis
      @DimitriosLazaridis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are the bolts that hold the teeth very well. Its an excellent fix ,these teeth are now stonger than the others.

  • @jimydoolittle3129
    @jimydoolittle3129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome , very smart repair , 💪👏

  • @stevenleslie8557
    @stevenleslie8557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These guys are masters of repair. In the West this part would have been replaced most likely with a new one.
    Labor costs in the West make such a repair unaffordable. This is assuming they can find workers who are skilled in this kind of work.

    • @kamilorzechowski6244
      @kamilorzechowski6244 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe replacing whole gear is also more bulletproof? If this part will fail again, additional cost of replacing gear in machine will sum up

    • @DonnyHooterHoot
      @DonnyHooterHoot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL! And their "repair" will last about 3 weeks and break again! Oh, us terrible Westerners! LOL!!!

  • @ovalwingnut
    @ovalwingnut ปีที่แล้ว

    Considering your options... I think that was a pretty good damn fix! Good job. You RoCk :) Cheers from So.CA.USA

  • @_MadFox
    @_MadFox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Красиво сделано. Сколько читал об этом методе, и впервые увидел. Респект!

    • @Пид0рХохловский
      @Пид0рХохловский 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Интересно латунь износится быстрее чем чугун этот.
      Видимо что-то попало в механизм и зубы оторвало

    • @АлексейЧехвалов
      @АлексейЧехвалов 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Как говорится на продажу. Себе так не станут делать. Один зуб так ещё можно сделать, чтобы был перехлёст с живыми зубьями, а так при нагрузке они быстро выйдеут из строя. Но это не точно 😉

    • @_MadFox
      @_MadFox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@АлексейЧехвалов почитайте ремонтные работы в сельхозтехнике. Новая чугунная или стальная шестерни не всем доступны. Сейчас в серую такая шестерня обойдется в 5-6к рублей, официально даже представить страшно.

    • @MrMad-lp7in
      @MrMad-lp7in 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@_MadFox Какая разница, сколько стоит эта шестерня. Есть механизм, и ему не объясниш, что денег нету. Ремонтные зубъя, сильно хуже основных. Они ослабили колесо сверлением, металл напайки, скорее всего, мягче, чем металл на зубъях. Ну вот и представте что будет. Так вообще не стот делать, если ты не на обитаемом очтрове и вокруг зомби апокалипсис, и у тебя сварочник сломался.

    • @_MadFox
      @_MadFox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrMad-lp7in теория, это, конечно, хорошо. Но вот почему-то мне шестерни заказывают в Краснрдарский край из Читы, из Оренбурга... Это подходит под локальный апокалипсис?

  • @stankeychankey69
    @stankeychankey69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice. Thank you for the knowledge. I will definitely use this information threw my career.

  • @andrzejporeda7281
    @andrzejporeda7281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bardzo jest świetny ten cały pomysł pozdrawiam twórcę tego filmiku serdecznie 👍👍👍👍

    • @maciejsiwa3931
      @maciejsiwa3931 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Przeciez to dziadostwo daje 5 minut działania ten mosiądz nie wytrzyma takich sił jest zbyt mieki i plastyczny

  • @johndonlan5956
    @johndonlan5956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is just brilliant! Using the saddle of a lathe as a shaper!!!! (It just goes to prove the old adage: necessity is the mother of invention). Good job! 🤗

  • @JoaoSantos-hf2yj
    @JoaoSantos-hf2yj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Normalmente estes tipos de engrenagem são de ferro fundido ou aço forjado creio q a melhor solda seria de aço inoxidável # no + 1 ótimo trabalho ( recurso muito útil )

  • @chrismcdonald6481
    @chrismcdonald6481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing job. Must be one helluva fabricator also

  • @rupe53
    @rupe53 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this begs the question: why did the gear break in the first place? If the cast iron gear broke, then how long will braze last?

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The answer is in the video and it is very visible, next to the broken teath you have teaths that also have bronze in them and on top of that the shape of this teeths are different=the load on teeths is not distributed properly...

    • @Destros2ndone
      @Destros2ndone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      maybe it was allready repaired
      with brass solder
      you just have to put on a new layer after every couple of turns ;)

  • @gordhildreth4630
    @gordhildreth4630 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that is a skilled individual!

  • @jeffreytabag9380
    @jeffreytabag9380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    so many experts here go create your own channel and show the right way to do it.

    • @schelli3430
      @schelli3430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The right way is to destroy it and make a completely new one. But respect, he fixed it with some basic tools, but it won't live long.

    • @silviodegiorgi9714
      @silviodegiorgi9714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@schelli3430 o

    • @nistaffsubs6787
      @nistaffsubs6787 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the poor way 👌🏼...

  • @envitech02
    @envitech02 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent job sir!! Hats off to you for a perfect repair.

  • @ivantrida8278
    @ivantrida8278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Muito bom.
    Excelente serviço.

  • @alexandredacostaferreira2568
    @alexandredacostaferreira2568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Boa tarde, gostei da ideia, mas você poderia soldar com aço 1045, aí ficaria perfeito.
    Um grande abraço!

    • @6181green
      @6181green 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cast iron is very hard to weld

    • @darkcraftcat
      @darkcraftcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Concordo com vc, e o primeiro dente saio fino e desalinhado, da pra perceber que a outra engrengem da um pequeno tranco, não vai dura muito

  • @donalfinn4205
    @donalfinn4205 ปีที่แล้ว

    So very well done!👏☘️👍

  • @Tornussen
    @Tornussen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well done!

  • @garrydeimert7397
    @garrydeimert7397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great fix, well done, also love the safety footwear. ...........😆😆

  • @moondog8072
    @moondog8072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pretty impressive, how long it lasts remains to be seen.

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The gear or the repair? The teeths gonna last because the shape of the new teeths is wrong so the new teeths will be underloaded, the teeths right next to it gonna breake because they gonna be overloaded just like it broke before as you can see previously repaired teeths right next to it.

  • @putridisel2727
    @putridisel2727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very creative and genius, very useful, my friend..

  • @Martin.Wilson
    @Martin.Wilson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Seems like incredibly soft metal to use for a gear.

    • @undokat
      @undokat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's just for video

    • @Martin.Wilson
      @Martin.Wilson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@undokat The gear is made of soft metal for the video? I don't get it.

    • @undokat
      @undokat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Martin.Wilson yes, he shows how to machine gear wheel, he puts a chewing gum, 700 thousand views made

    • @howardosborne8647
      @howardosborne8647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These gears are not under great load when working.
      The technique is as old as the hills for repairing slow running spur gears. It will last very well.

  • @robertordewald8678
    @robertordewald8678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That bull gear looks like it's about done, it looked like it had several other teeth repaired already. One positive thing with the way you did that and having it mesh with the harder gear the softer metal will work its teeth in overtime using the squish Factor. I never thought about using my lathe as a shaper. Thanks, I learned something new. From Virginia USA

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You need to have the exact same shape on every teeth, there was too much load on them because the ones that were repaired before got the wrong shape. So now another 3 gonna be broken and again right next to the teeths that was just repaired... and how exatly different metal in something that needs to have every teeth identical is a beneficial factor?!

    • @robertordewald8678
      @robertordewald8678 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Biały if you are wondering I was referring to imperfect duplication of the teeth using brass would allow them to wear into the steel teeth on the other gear. That is what I was referring to.

  • @FOMI1970
    @FOMI1970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brass is softer than cast iron so in time it will be worn out and starts missing teeth and eventually it will break , but for temporary fix it will do .

    • @fuckingpippaman
      @fuckingpippaman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      bronze*

    • @Lucas_sGarage
      @Lucas_sGarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      probably you could weld it like with er70 or so

    • @pabloricardodetarragon2649
      @pabloricardodetarragon2649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lucas_sGarage ER 70 is too brittle and will ruin the very old gear which is probabley cast in some wrought iron. That will break. Better to use a good aluminim bronze bronze or a nickel bronze brazing over the screws. Another possibility (that depends on the material of the gear) is to weld with a machinable stainless steel like the 312, generally that welds very well in most steels and irons and it's very strong. The SS 312 is often used to repair gear boxes and crankshafts.

    • @Lucas_sGarage
      @Lucas_sGarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pabloricardodetarragon2649 is about finding a sweet spot between hardness and toughness

    • @pabloricardodetarragon2649
      @pabloricardodetarragon2649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lucas_sGarage Hard to find aluminium bronze, expensive cupro nickel 20 %, and easy to get SS312 are suitable : not too tough, easy machining, good ductility but hard enough.
      The real problem It's to get a good anchor of the brazing or welding between a very old gear of unknown alloy, with maybe impurities and probably a lot of carbon with the added metal of the new teeth. It's a tough problem.
      I've had excellent results with the 312 which gets a good fusion even with hard to weld steel alloys and a lot of irons without heating to much, is pretty ductile so very resilient to vibrations and alternate stresses, and a good surface hardness.
      It has made to fix blades on turbine engines with hot combustion gases heating it. So on a old gear it's peanuts for the 312.

  • @Qspecialman
    @Qspecialman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That, is very clever! It just goes to show an old style can really work. Thanks for taking the trouble of making this video.

  • @65cj55
    @65cj55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Necessity is the Mother of Invention.

  • @димам-в4з
    @димам-в4з 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    руки настоящего работника молодец,здоровья

  • @reinaldopereira6908
    @reinaldopereira6908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Simplesmente fantástica essa idéia PARABÉNS !!!

  • @michaellavery4899
    @michaellavery4899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next time something breaks on my car, I'm going to India to get it fixed. Fantastic workmanship and will probably work out cheaper.

  • @kabovasya
    @kabovasya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Дешево но сердито, класно !!!!!!

    • @ВячеславСемёнычев-о8х
      @ВячеславСемёнычев-о8х 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      я редко видел таких придурков; работа не то что напрасная, она ещё очень вредит мозгу - не в том направлении работает! Это как видео про реставрацию чего либо - сначала засрут специально потом реставрируют.

    • @kabovasya
      @kabovasya 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ВячеславСемёнычев-о8хЄто они показивают как одно из решений задачи, как вариант !!!!

    • @ВячеславСемёнычев-о8х
      @ВячеславСемёнычев-о8х 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kabovasya при всём уважении к вам, ну поймите вы: снимают такое, что бы снимать, якобы красиво; да и латунный зуб - это смех и к тому же токарный доламывает. А как вариант - лучше уж курить на лавке, а не смущать зрителя

    • @kabovasya
      @kabovasya 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ВячеславСемёнычев-о8х Як варіант для рішення задачі пригодиться !!!

    • @kabovasya
      @kabovasya 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ВячеславСемёнычев-о8х Не є таємниця що ЮТУБ зараз відеохостінг для заробітку грошей і чим більше "просмотрів" тим більше грошей.. Так цей канал ще нічого поганого немає бо він хоч щось сам робить !!!Ає такі канали що тільки назва фільму гарна а в ролику нічого нема цікавого або чужі кадри ось це БРЕХНЯ І ОБМАН ГЛЯДАЧІВ Я ЦЕ ТЕЖ НЕ ЛЮБЛЮ І НЕ ПОВАЖАЮ. !!!

  • @nazroolhosein2251
    @nazroolhosein2251 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent job bro. You're a boss .with thanks.

  • @AG-id5fj
    @AG-id5fj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very good repair