Delain - 04/11/2022 - Full Show @ Hedon, Zwolle
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Set list:
Hands of Gold
Suckerpunch
Burning Bridges
Invidia
The Quest and the Curse
April Rain
Masters of Destiny
The Hurricane
Cordell (The Cranberries cover) (with Ivar de Graaf) (Acoustic, sung by Ronald… )
Beneath (with Paolo Ribaldini) (Live debut)
Your Body Is a Battleground (with Paolo Ribaldini)
Sing to Me (with Paolo Ribaldini) [partial recording only, technical issue with camera]
The Gathering (with Paolo Ribaldini)
Don't Let Go
Fire with Fire
Not Enough
Encore:
Mother Machine
Control the Storm (with Paolo Ribaldini)
We Are the Others - เพลง
Setlist:
0:00:00 Intro
0:01:38 Hands Of Gold
0:09:34 Suckerpunch
0:14:56 Burning Bridges
0:19:18 Invidia
0:25:14 The Quest And The Curse
0:30:16 April Rain
0:35:06 Masters Of Destiny
0:40:14 The Hurricane
0:45:52 Cordell ( The Cranberries cover ) ( with Ivar de Graaf ) ( Acoustic )
0:52:33 Beneath ( with Paolo Ribaldini ) ( Live Debut )
0:57:46 Your Body Is A Battleground ( with Paolo Ribaldini )
1:01:54 Sing To Me ( with Paolo Ribaldini ) ( Not Full )
1:04:42 The Gathering ( with Paolo Ribaldini )
1:09:18 Don't Let Go
1:13:28 Fire With Fire
1:17:56 Not Enough
1:23:14 Mother Machine
1:28:44 Control The Storm ( with Paolo Ribaldini )
1:34:36 We Are The Others
Omg this bald man with his phone all the time ... come on please 😑
Wow pretty awesome like it
The new singer sounds great live!
Diana is beyond amazing. "We are the Others" always makes me cry... she sings wonderfully.
This new incarnation of Delain is surprisingly awesome. Diana's killing it and I love the energy, personality and vocals from Ronald on guitar.
Diana is so adorable and talented! I loved Charlotte to death, but this little lady is a charmer! Welcome back Delain and your new album (yeah I still play vinyl) will be ordered!
Isn't she? Charlotte was incredible, but Delain came back strong!
I watched the whole show again and must say that Diana is a very nice, down-to-earth person. So friendly to the crowd. Reminds me to Floor... 😍🤩
Can’t wait until they come back to the US! I fell in love with Delain and Charlotte and I’m sad things changed, however, I’m giving the new lineup a chance. They sound amazing!
Hats off to Paolo Ribaldini, he sounded pretty good in Marco's absence.
I think that this is one of the best replacements of all time.
AGREE
I feel so happy to see Delain has survived and is going strong again! It is always nice to have some good news! The new singer has lots of potential and I love that some of the old gang came back.
Have been watching a lot of recent Delain live videos. Diana's crushing it. Looking forward to a US tour, hopefully with VIP! :)
Diana and the band are rocking it!
And handled themselves in the beginning with class and professionalism when they had technical difficulties. It was obvious it began at the end of Hands of Gold
Good job Diane she sounds amazing and so excited for the new album in 2023.
Thanks for sharing this video👍. Greeting from Ecuador
We Are The Others is the Masterpeace - very, very brilliant Diana!!!!!!!!!!!!
She's gonna take Delain on a new journey from here
As an old Delain fan, I must admit that this sounds great. Diana is a great addition to the band. I'll be looking forward to see you guys live at some point 🤘. Best regards from Croatia
I have to admit Diana definitely makes the old songs go out in her own style Bravo!!The New stuff is is going in a different level and it’s amazing!
Ronald and the gang keep up the energy your all great musicians!
Flawless singing... the masters of destiny is quite hard to sing and she nailed it!
Just like Floor and Troy brought new and unique, much needed energy to Nightwish, I feel like Diana (and others) are doing the same with Delain. This current line-up seems jacked up and it makes me so happy!. An absolute *perfect* match; well done on finding the right fit!
Thanks for this amazing video, I was at that show and it was so beautiful. Delain are back and ready to roll.
Thanks for uploading for those of us unable to make the trip to Zwolle. They've nailed the live sound. Diana's vocals are excellent, and I thought Paolo did a great job stepping in for the irreplaceable Marko. I'm looking forward to seeing them next year in London.
Yess all very true! I feel like the vocalist has a lot of potential to grow even more. And who knows, perhaps Marko will surprise them with a visit again sometime in the future!
When I saw all the Diana comments I thought for a minute that they had got Dianne van Giersbergen as the new vocalist (which would have made sense as she's Dutch, and been interesting, as she is really good). But no. Diana Leah does seem really good too (and more similar in style to Charlotte) so that's cool. Great to see that Delain are still going after the (2nd) refresh - they are a great band.
me encantó y su voz esta tan controlada y natural que se disfruta, como si llevarán años complementados. ❤️✨
I really love how Delain took time to really talk to the crowd.And Diana alot of hand shaken.With Diana's voice and boys on their instruments, im so excited when they come to USA😊😊❤️❤️🎤🎸🥁🎹🎚🎶🎵🎶
I have seen them 4 times. Lead singer is fantastic and sounds like Charlotte so will look forward to see again in California. It's wonderful they stayed together after so many changes .
If you close your eyes during Suckerpunch you may be confused whose voice is, Diana or Charlotte's? hahaha
Diana and Charlotte have totally different voices. Diana her voice is much more open. Charlotte het voice is much thinner, especially in the higher regions.
@@kiskethekeeper you are probably right. I am no singer. However. I do like her and seems to be a good fit. I am a big fan of Charlotte too. Strange how band made many changes but they are still very entertaining
She is so appreciative of the fans acceptance of her, she’s stoked. Warms my heart.❤
Diana fits so well and her live performance is awesome! Can't wait to hear NEW Delain material.
Yeah two resurrections of this year - Delain and Xandria, but Xandria failed (for me) and Delain Prevailed!
The next single “beneath” (heard in the concert) is coming out at the end of the month, I think
@@markmichel3855 Nice, thanks for the info!
@@BlackbirdSSR you’re welcome
@@RammmFan I would disagree about Xandria: Although this band has been on my radar from time to time throughout their career, I didn't like any of their songs except "Save My Life". But I like each of their new singles. They sound like a completely different band now - and to my taste, better than the old Xandria.
Я не ожидал .Думал что все нет любимой группы.Delain вы супер!!!
Damn... She's so, sooo talented! Her vocal control is insane.
This is absolutely fantastic, thank you so much for the effort of not enjoying the concert, in order to provide us with this brilliant content!
I'm completely amazed by the new (and improved) Delain!
No worries, I absolutely enjoyed the concert 😃 I have perfected the art of holding the camera still and dancing behind it 😉
@@takkenherrielivemusic3435 wow 😲 so I have to give you double congrats 😎
Compliments dear Diana, you and your voice are fantastic❣️
Very good!!!! Thanks for upload!!!!
Impressionado com a performance e desenvoltura na interpretação das músicas cantadas pela Charlotte, Diana não só canta, mas encanta e muito, e a execução de Beneath, eu particularmente estava aguardando com muita ansiedade!!!
Eu tbm achei ela incrível, até pq substituir a Charlotte no Delain não é um tarefa fácil, mas ela está muito bem.
Eu assisti o Delain abrindo para o Nightwish na turnê Decades, foi incrível, para mim foi um show mais energético que o Nightwish, Diana e os novos integrantes são incríveis, a banda está mais forte com essa formação,, ela mandou muito bem nas músicas antigas e as do novo álbum estão incríveis!
Awesome, so pleased they’re back..can’t wait to see them live again in London 2023 🤘
Cant wait to see these guys here in Dublin next year.
I'm amazed that 'Not Enough' is Diana's fav song. It is also mine and I thought it was just me who had this one as a favorite 😍
Mine too! and hearing this awesome live version meant a huge surprise for me ✨
Brutal….gran trabajo
Diana's voice and stage presence are awesome! And Paolo's voice convinces as well - but I miss Marko. HIS voice no other guy can beat... 🤩
Haha you're of course right about that last thing. But still, it was very nice. It brings such a smile on my face to see Delain like this and to see the crowd having such good time!
Очень любила голос и манеру исполнения Шарлотты, но и Диана большая умница,как она крута! Она эльфийка какая то волшебная 😱
Спасибо за видео!
умница потому, что копирует Шарлотту?
да,потому что на концерте хочется слышать знакомое привычное исполнение песен любимой группы.шарлотта в живую пела слабее,чем диана,хотя и очень своеобразно)
@@vlad_koldun Она не копирует Шарлотту, она поёт своим голосом. Но у тебя могло сложиться такое впечатление, потому что она довольно точно следует изначальным вокальным партиям и я не вижу в этом ничего плохого, наоборот это замечательно. Конечно есть много случаев, когда новые певицы переделывают вокальные партии предыдущих под себя (Nightwish - яркий пример). Но мне кажется что если речь не идёт об уникальных талантах вроде Флор Янсен, то конечно лучше всего старые песни исполнять аутентично. Это так же. как если бы в группу известную своими гитарными партиями взяли нового гитариста - конечно все зрители хотели бы чтобы он старые песни исполнял так как они были записаны и особенно чтобы соло совпадали нота в ноту. Тут та же история.
Complimenti Diana sei stata fantastica! 👏👏❤️❤️
Эх, где то чего то не хватает, где то чего то давно не хватало, но мы скучали по вам. Моя любимая группа. В любом виде, но.. с возвращением!!!)😉
Delain made the Impossible, they found a perfect vocalist to fill the tight elegant cute shoes of Charlotte :)
Yeah - many groups didn't manage this... 😎
She really sounds Just like Charlotte she suites The songs left by her The oppoosite nightwish
She sounds fantastic live and the band too. She fits perfectly.
I especially like the fact that she seems so happy to sing live with the band and she communicates so well with the fans.
Unfortunately I can’t travel to seem them with Xandria and Illumishade, but I hope to cheer for them if they come to Greece at summer.
Great show!
Thank you. :)
This greatThanks for this video. Ya they if they were having is audio problems Delain is still was doing a great job😊😊❤️❤️🎤🎸🥁🎹🎚🎵🎶🎵
I Felt goosebimps with april rain song with New Singer like Just told by me only Joy from This romanian singer
Diana is so Good
As a fan of Delain since the "Lucidity" days, I can tell you: Diana is amazing. She's more in tune than Charlotte. Another observation: musically the band is better as a whole. In addition, a kind of return to the roots is perceived. Martijn made the right choices. The Delain I always loved is back!🤩
Plus, Diana is a little HOTTIE...
Martijn has good ears gotta give him that
Love this band
All my support and love to Diana
The Singer is great not disapointed at april rain song good vocals.,..
Veramente brava,grande Diana ❣🌹
Diana has made “April rain, we are the others, and mother machine” her own
No puedo dejar de mirar al pelado que se saltó todo en primera fila. Jajajaja. Qué maestro.
Terrific band ❤❤❤❤❤
Eine bessere Wahl hätte Martijn nicht treffen können. Diana ist großartig
Cuando todos pensábamos que está banda estaría muerta sin Charlotte, resultó que no solo está más viva que nunca si no que está increíble y diana con su voz le da otra dimensión todo fue una mejora , este tipo es un maldito genio .
Bravissima👏👏👏👏👏👍💋
La voz de Diana es excelente, gran show, buen dominio del público.
Beneath FINALMENTEEEE
Voce meravigliosa
❤️❤️❤️👏😍
wow...
Good choice of Singer The delain Band.
Diana 😍😍😍😍😍!!!
Perfeita a vocalista
Если бы я не видел кто поет, то я бы не отличил разницу, очень точно и похоже)
Мда, Сандер что-то в Suckerpunch ушел с ритма, не часто увидишь как группа Delain сбиваются с темпа)) Но вообще Сандер один из лучших после Рубена, отдельно кайфанул от его партии в Not Enough
Burning Bridges у Дианы получается лучше даже, чем у Шарлотты. И да, где соляк, Рональд, м????
Удивлен что Invidia взяли наконец в сет лист, что, как появился Рональд, так решили ее играть? Я ее сто лет не слышал живьем, это лучшая вокальная часть у Рональда, ненавижу его скрим, но в Invidia его отрывок самый лучший, спасибо что не забываешь что можешь петь на чистом лучше, чем скримом. Кавер на Cordell тому доказательство.
В Fire with Fire жаль что Рональд не поиспытывал свои связки)))) ахаха
Mother Machine наконец то начали исполнять как в оригинале.
If you want to hear Ronald sing some more... Listen to Hangover Hero!
No niente ..sono scioccata ..lei ,dolcissima nei video delle ricette e ora scopro che fa questo genere di musica .. non mi piace il genere ma lei rimane dolcissima nella voce .. ma nn me l aspettavo in questa versione ..ora si capisce anche i vostri video dove cantate insieme e la bravura .. Diana una scoperta !!! 👏👏👏
But where are they playing at after ALL ?
Ich finde, die Vocals zu leise (wohl eine technische Frage). Und Diana Leah trifft live nicht immer jeden Ton.
Neither did Charlotte. And besides, this is one of the first shows. So it makes sense. A matter of time.
Vreemd om ze met al die nieuwe bandleden te zien.Maar klinkt goed hoor.
Naast de toetsenist zijn De drummer en gitarist gelukkig nog originele bandleden.
Delain heeft anno 2022 meer originele op het podium dan bijv. Nightwish 😎
@@ChrisEchoes lol...dat is waar 😂
Dit voelt eindelijk weer vertrouwd... Voor een fan van het eerste uur voelt dit weer meer als Delain dan de vorige versie.
@@kiskethekeeper Ja, same! Voelt een beetje alsof ze weer wat terug zijn gegaan naar de roots! Als de boel wordt omgegooid is het altijd maar afwachten hoe het uitpakt. Tot nu toe best wel nice allemaal! Een aantal voormalige leden en een nieuwe zangeres met een enorm goede stem, die toch iets wegheeft van Charlotte qua klankkleur.
Will I be burned on a cross if I say Diana sounds and fits better with Delain than Charlotte ever did? 🙄 Her voice doesn't fade on any part of the show like Charlotte's did ...
I agree with you.
I really like this - and i didn't like the previous singer/line up/records, apart from two songs on the debut and some other songs here and there
what happened at 12:04 of Suckerpunch?
Monitor problems... No clicktrack in Sander his ears. They were still fixing it during Suckerpunch. After the song everything restarted properly!
Слетели с темпа, Сандер на долю вперёд убежал, благодаря Мартейну и его бдительности все выравнились. Удивительно, но публика даже не заметила этого, профессионально вышли сухими из ситуации, молодцы))
Диана супер!!! Очень сильно похожа на Шарлотту голосом.
она все скопировала, даже движения все, один в один))
Charlotte isn't even allowed to stand in Diana her shadow! Diana is better on every song!
Hopefully no one was stuck behind you while you filmed this whole thing with a bright screen...
Disclaimer: "No audience members were stuck, blinded, hindered, annoyed, or blocked during the recording of this show".
I am in the far corner of the balcony for a reason. Behind me was only a wall.
@@takkenherrielivemusic3435 Cool!
🤘🤘🇧🇷🤘❤️
Uma vocalisa melhor que essa para substituir a Charlotte não existe
Not getting into a debate about the reasons for the breakup, and Diana is perfectly fine. This version of the band just sounds thin, the guitar leads seem to be a stretch. And are they still sampling Charlotte background vocals or did Diana re-record them ?
The quality of the video audio is rather thin. But the band sounds great!
It's the sound quality of this particular video, on other videos from the same concert the band definitely doesn't sound "thin". And of course they re-recorded all the backing tracks, otherwise they would have had to ask Charlotte for permission to use them and pay her extra money.
This version uses the exact same material as the old version because it's all owned by the company Delain. Ronald and Ludo are only playing on a different brand then Otto and Timo. And yes... All backgrounds vocals are re-recorded by Diana.
Diana le aporto más sensualidad a la banda ,esa voz que posee sencillamente enamora ❤️
I have to admit... I don't know how I feel about them playing We Are the Others now. That feels like a very, very personal Charlotte song IMO. Diana sang it fantastically but I really hope she took the time to learn the meaning of it.
I wouldn't call this song "personal", it's more of a social theme song. A kind of anthem, calling for all who feel like outsiders to unite. I don't see any reason why you feel like it's wrong for Diana to perform this song. Not to mention that there are many covers of this song from other people on TH-cam.
Except the lyrics, Martijn wrote this entire song including melody lines. This song is more than only (very important) lyrics. So he has every right to play this song live
@@jaspergroen5376 Even the vocal lines are written by Martijn... Charlotte wrote the lyrics.
Charlotte was always the primary lyricist for the band.
I think Charlotte thinks:O shit,i Had to stand there!!😭😟😠😡😲
In fact, you're probably right: She left Delain because she didn't want to work with a completely new line-up of musicians, but if she had known that Sander and Ronald would call Martijn and ask to return to the band, then maybe she wouldn't have been so radical in her decision.
if i say i came here for her will be change singer again hahaha
шарлотта забрала что то с собой ....эх...
Yes she did...herself. And now something good returned. And the soul of the band is the songwriter of the music. And that soul wasn't Charlotte. You can hear that when you listen to her new music which has nothing to do with the style of Delain's music
Only herself and her backing vocals.
She seems to be very much a Charlotte clone so what did they gain?
"A Charlotte clone" Sounds pretty unrespectful Dude. Live Diana has more voice control than Charlotte. It's not a matter of "gain". Charlotte choose to pursue her solo career.
@@jaspergroen5376 She didn't cry for days because she quit. She got fired. But I did not mean to be disrespectful. I just not see the what they benefited.
@@luciusblackwood2640 It was impossible to fire her , because Martijn and Charlotte were in the Delain company together. She cried because despite of all efforts from all sides it didn't work out. And so did Martijn btw. There are always more sides to a story, and if one of them was such a jerk it wouldn't be possible to work together for almost 15 years. Martijn was (and is) the engine (and music sound) of Delain, so it makes sense he continues. Diana will develop her own sound just like Charlotte did. I wish everyone including Charlotte the very best!
@@jaspergroen5376 That is incorrect. She explained the whole thing. She was totally fired. That was her life's work and it was stolen from her. I hope she starts a band called Charlotte's Delain. Those are as much her songs as anyone else and she should continue to sing them.
"so what did they gain?"
In that situation, the most important thing is that at least they didn't lose anything.
And no one fired Charlotte. It was the former musicians who tried to overthrow the founder of Delain and "hijack" the band, and when it didn't work out, they left and Charlotte left with them. Now they work in her live band.
The new vocalist looks like a Russian. I don't know why... But she sings beautifully... Of course, Hungary, Romania... The West does not distinguish between varieties of Russian...)))
в театре самый лучший лайв. а не это дерьмо на кошкину жопу снятое. группу люблю
Тебе следует проявить больше уважения к человеку, который снял целиком весь концерт Delain в новом составе и выложил в TH-cam. Меня тошнит от таких людей как ты, которые на халяву получают возможность хоть как-то увидеть это выступление и при этом ещё обсирают автора видео, что это не профессиональное видео с десятка камер. Не нравится - ну жди ещё несколько лет пока группа выпустит следующий официальный концертник.
P.S. Почему как только встречается в каком-то метал видео коммент на русском, то в 90% случаев это токсичный высер о том как всё сделано плохо?
@@SokolRock высер это ты. Как твой папа сказал
So, how well does she sing Masters of Destiny?
Edit:
Not so well, i hear.
She has trouble going from chest voice to head voice and back. Pitch difficulties.
(Yes, i watch vocal coach reaction videos)
I agree, but I think it's worth noting that that song is probably Charlotte's magnum opus as far as Delain goes. I think it'd be very difficult for anyone who isn't extremely accomplished to sing it perfectly.
@@godoflemmings17 True.
Listen to Charlotte singing this song live. Not better than this. Its a very difficult song to sing live. On top, this is Diana’s very first official venue show. So we should cut her some slack so to say 😉
@@jaspergroen5376 I have listened to Charlotte sing this song live. What made you think i didn't?
This is a difficult song to sing, it is impossible for any singer to replicate the studio version because of the overlapping lyric structure.
But, Charlotte's pitch and chest / headvoice control is better.
Sorry, i am not a fan of either Charlotte, Delain or Diana.
@@patrickvangelder8088 Ive seen them live multiple times. Both this actual show and also in the past with Charlotte. Diana is simply technically more skilled. Better vibrato, no squeezed voice. Not nasal sound either. Btw Check out Charlotte’s first years in Delain and then Diana right now. Diana is lightyears ahead.
Very poor quality
Yes the quality wasn't the best but let's agree that it's a window showing what the new Delain can do. I was impressed. I am also grateful that TakkenHerrie Live Music took the time to share this.
I can't avoid to feel it like a band making Delain's covers. Sorry.
The person who is the main songwriter, is on stage. And for him it's impossible to cover his own songs,.Also the original drummer and guitar player are back. So in that case those people are covering a lot of their own stuff. To me this is totally Delain.
@@martijnjanssen4419 so, you're telling me I'm feeling in the wrong way. That's funny. Of course he can't so covers of himself, as sure as he can sound like it.
It also happened with Nightwith with Anette Olzon, and now again it doesn't sound like Nightwish after Marko leaving the band.
So, I heard the songs once sang by Marko and Charlotte without both of them and, I'm sorry, it sounds like a cover for me.
@@rorkag You have the right to your own opinion of course. I simply don't agree with it, and I also think it's a rather insulting one for the people on stage. Bands always go trough changes. It's a fact of life. Yes, with Delain it happened at the same time, but the result is exactly the same as with other bands like Nightwish. To me I think Nightwish is still very much Nightwish. I saw them live in November. Still had the Nightwish vibe to me (and I think almost 17000 other people agreed with me that night). A band is more than only the vocalist. (btw I also missed someone like Marko. But that doesn't mean it's a cover band immediately. That's a really extreme statement to make).
@@martijnjanssen4419 and you have the right to disagree and feel this is insulting instead an honest criticism. BTW, I also saw Nightwith recently, and talking about extreme statements, I'm pretty sure to speak in the name of 17k people is much more violent then to say for me they now sound like a tribute band to themselves.
@@rorkag Then we can agree to disagree, and shake hands :-)
жаль ...конечно....но до предыдущей вокалистки нынешней далеко.....
да и звучит не так просто ....умерла группа ....жаль ....а под новую надо тогда новые песни писать , а не старые петь...
The new vocalist is actually much better live than the previous vocalist. I was at this show, and I was at previous Delain shows with Charlotte. I like Diana's voice way better!
Смешно читать этот коммент рядом с другим, где некто обвиняет Диану что она как "клон" Шарлотты. Вам бы, хейтерам, собраться вместе и определиться с тактикой проявления вашего недовольства, чтоб хотя бы ваше нытьё не противоречило друг-другу :))
@@SokolRock ужасно интересно....но нихрена не понятно))))
@@jaspergroen5376 не соглашусь на все 100%, но Диана все же в некоторых моментах сильно лучше справляется.
Diana can definitely sing. However, she needs to work on the whole "commanding the audience and owning the stage" thing and also on the "stage presence" thing. It might not be fair to compare her to Charlotte in those respects because Charlotte had few equals but Diana needs to raise her game. The first, easiest thing she can do to make this happen would be to tell the other members of the band to shut the (*@# up when she's in front of an audience. A band can have only *ONE* front-person. I don't care if it's Martijn or anyone else; Diana needs to be the queen of the stage; otherwise it looks like a disorganized high school band playing their first gig. The new songs are good. Delain needs a new guitarist who has the same stage presence as Ludovico Cioffi.
I think your comment to all involved is pretty rude, and I completely disagree.
By the way. Charlotte unequaled.... Did you ever see her preform the first 5 years in Delain? I did. Diana is already doing 10x better, than Charlotte did in those years, and she just started. This was only her 2nd show. Ronald (the guitar player) has a phenomenal stage presents. Fans who attended the show loved him. To say it's impossible to have more than 1 front person at the same time is simply incorrect. Nightwish is a very good example of that. In short.... Nope. It's a matter of time, and they will completely nail it.
@@martijnjanssen4419 You're comparing Charlotte when she was 16-21 to Diana now, who's just over 30. I saw videos of festival gigs Delain did in the "Lucidity" days and she was not the least bit awkward; but that's a side issue because the overwheling majority of Delain fans (myself included) started seeing them play live sometime after "We Are The others" and by then Charlotte matured into the super-performer whom she is now, and to whom it is most relevant to compare Diana. I will admit that Ronald is on a "stage" in this video and that he is also definitely "present." However, what I saw in this video was not "stage presence." It was some random guy standing awkwardly.
As for my main point of contention, Nightwish is a bad comparison to make because the band has (really, had, since Markko is gone now) more than one singer. Amaranthe too has three singers so we don't mind so much when someone other than Elize speaks. That's the thing: these bands have multiple singers. Delain doesn't. Even look at Lacuna Coil: two singers, but Andrea is intelligent enough to know that he has a *LOT* less personality than Cristina Scabbia so he keeps his mouth between songs. There are also some bands where the non-singers do speak between songs but that's part of a scripted act that's part of the show. Think of Steel Panther. Scott Ian of Anthrax has his shtick in the "*WAR DANCE*" segment of "Indians" but he otherwise shuts up and plays guitar.
But look at every other band with a single vocalist and you will see they always work best when the other band members do not talk. Ben Weinman of The Dillinger Escape Plan was clearly the brains of the band but he still let Greg Pucciato do all the talking because he knew his job was playing guitar. The best-known member of Periphery is guitarist Misha Mansour, but he never speaks to the audience; he lets Spencer Sotelo do that and the audience "loves that shit." Lars Ulrich of Metallica clearly has a bigger ego than James Hetfield and he's a bit more intelligent and articulate; but he says nothing until the audience starts to leave the venue because he knows his place is behind the drum kit. Even Robert Trujillo doesn't speak between songs when Metallica plays in Spanish-speaking countries; he simply says "thank you all for coming, good night!" in Spanish at the end of the set. Nobody would dare speak over Devin Townsend nor Henry Rollins (to be fair, Henry only does solo spoken word performances now). Phil Anselmo (when he can keep his white supremacist beliefs quiet and stay sober) absolutely owns the stage; the Abbott brothers were very shy and they let him keep the spotlight to himself, becuse that's what worked. Nobody would dare speak over Charlotte for _)*(@# sakes!
Look at bands who deviated from this.
The Agonist instantly improved as soon as Vicky Psarakis learned to own the stage five years ago and Chris Kells stopped introducing songs; even here in Montreal where Vicky's inability to speak French is acutely noticed by the audience, she runs the show and the show is better for it. One of the worst sets I ever saw live was Sacred Reich in 1993, opening for Pantera. One of the many reasons for this was that Wiley Arnett was so buzzed on cocaine that he couldn't shut up and Phil Rind was in the throes of an asthma attack that prevented him from speaking (and this is a band that usually plays killer live sets). And one of the reasons many fans are glad Mike Portnoy is no longer in Dream Theater is because he's no longer there to talk over James Labrie between songs and hog the spotlight; and most of the fans are only there to drool over John Petrucci (and maybe Jordan Rudess) but even if they think Petrucci is more interesting or a better musician, they still prefer to hear James Labrie speaking between songs and *never* hearing the others, as it should be.
Delain needs to realize itself as one band with one singer at the forefront, with her ruling the stage. Martijn even if he could sing, simply doesn't have the personality for that and he needs to stay behind his Korg.
@@theangrylizard1990 I initially wanted to advise you to create a band yourself, where everything will be the way you want. But you're so rude that I'm afraid any musicians with self-respect will leave you in the first week.
@@theangrylizard1990 Delain doesn't need to realise anything. If you know it all so well, where are you then with your band?...I already know the answer....Nowhere.
And perhaps do you home work first. Delain DOES have multiple singers. Ronald is a gifted singer, and growler.
And Ludo is an insanely good growler.
Martijn has been a musician for over 25 years, in two top bands in the genre. I am pretty sure he knows better than you how things work. You come across as a know it all/know it better, and you are extremely rude on top.
You also completely ignoring the fact that Charlotte already was Delain's singer for over 7 years when We Are The Others came out. Age is not a factor here at all. It's experience. And Diana is just starting, and already beating Charlotte at her own game in comparison to her first club show.
It will simply a matter of time when Diana will be at the required level as a performer, and she already beats Charlotte live when it comes to singing if you like it or not. As said. I was there. Both in the early years, and at this particular show.
Last but not least. Martijn doesn't come across wanting to be a frontman at all. He sings backing vocals, and only at one song. This is a special home show, and not a normal situation, where it makes total sense he takes the mic for a moment.
His brother did the same thing in Within Temptation at some moments. Also no problem whatsoever, and the crowd loves it.
You're just searching for your chance to shoot them down with lame reasons, because you don't like it. But It won't stop them. On the contrary. They will only grow more. They are already having succes with this line up. Just deal with it dude.
@@martijnjanssen4419 dude, you're coming across as a credulous fanboy who's waaaaaaaaay too invested in this to see the obvious. I don't hate this band. Hell, I don't even think the recent "everybody quit on the same day" incident was even all that tragic. I think the music Delain recorded has been better than everything Chatrlotte did as a solo artist. But I watched this video and I saw a lot of unprofessional things being done that way less famous bands would never do; and a singer who looked like she was lost onstage. If you're the type of person who'd walk up to them after this performance and say it was the most brilliant thing you've ever seen and that they never need to do anything different, then you're not a fan; or not a very good one.
(And by the way, "top band?" Yes, Within Temptation counts. But Delain, no.)