I reinstalled WuWa for her, but I decided to pull Shorekeeper for both meta and waifu reasons so now I have only 20 pulls saved for Camellya lmao. I'm planning to use her with Sanhua considering she's basic attack focused. Worst case scenario, I guess I can afford to miss her since I can make a copium team out of Calcium, Baizhi and Sanhua. More importantly, I'm just glad that the game actually runs quite smoothly on my below minimum spec tablet than it did at launch on minimum settings 45fps otherwise I would've reinstalled it for nothing.
-Cons: 1. Poor movement 2. Low potential to be as strong in the future 3. Not much stronger than the current DPS characters -Pros: 1. She is Camellya -Conclusion: Pull
The question should be "should you pull or get Camellya?" Cuz I'm 100% pulling for her and I calculate I will have enough to get 160 pull by the end of her banner but even if I dont have enough pull to guarantee her I will still pull just like I do Changli, did 75 pull and lose to lion boy on the last day of her banner, so sad
I'm still undecided whether to pull Camellya or not. I'm not really interested in her as a character (i'm waiting for more males). BUT i have a well built Sanhua - who is enjoyable to play. So my thoughts are to get Camellya in order to have an excuse to play Sanhua. I already have 3 well built teams (jiyan, Jinhsi and Xangli ones) - so that's why i'm still unsure. Saved enough asterite, but don't really want to waste it. Guess i'll be able to try her out in Illusive Realm and make a decision then. Hope anyone that wants her is successful with their pulls x
A spectro skill buffer with coord attacks will kinda not work with Jinhsi because she gets less Incandescene stacks with the same element as her, I think Zhezhi was the one Kuro has in mind when creating the BEST support for Jinhsi as she is Glacio Coord attacker (which will generate more stacks for Jinhsi) with skill buff😊
Coordinate Attacks and other attacks have different stacks, they can still stack at the same time even with the same element. Zhezhi is a good support for Jinhsi but not the best, she can't use half of the buff Zhezhi provides.
Coordinated attacks and Regular attacks have seperate cooldowns, so it would still work. Even then, they can throw a curveball and make the Spectro Skill buffer an Electro character
You like Camellya's design and playstyle? Yes? --> Pull for her No? --> Don't pull for her Everything else doesn't matter, it's a game and you're supposed to enjoy and have fun with it. If you overanalyze things too much (especially if you do before said content is even released) you ruin things for yourself. Don't be a doofus.
I don't think that's always true. For example I play genshin, and early on I rolled for Eula because I like her design and playstyle of a big nuke. But as timed passed she's really fallen, is super clunky, and doesn't do much damage. Now I'm not saying this is the case for Camellya. But at SOME point a charcter can be bad enough to just not be worth it. Like Imagine if Cammellya did literally 1 damage off of every attack she did. Would you say it would be a good idea to pull for her because of "Design and playstyle"? Sure, that's an extreme example, but it shows that at SOME point, the weight does move to that point. That said I don't think Cammellya is going to be bad at all and am going to be pulling for her myself.
@@mrfatmancory By that logic you would not pull for any character - On a long enough timeline every character gets powerkrept. Also, funny enough, I'm in the same boat as you and am huge Eula-fan myself (Together with Raiden in the team that lets her just armor-break things). I mean, it has been a year since last I played but even then my characters were heavily outdated and I had no issues beating the content. Maybe it's how our characters are built or something but I'd disagree for example that she feels weak.
@@EtherealRune See the thing is sure, if enough time passes some characters will get power crept but the strong ones tend to be way more resilient to it and as such you get to play them more easier. Genshin has a decent number of units that came out early enough like Raiden and Kaz that are still good because at the time of release they were the best things you could be doing at the time, and have held up. And sure, you can do end game content with units like Eula, you just need to put in WAY more work for her (In Eula's case because just how shafted phy is as a damage type in the game). It goes on a scale I think. The theoretical 1 damage per attack unit being like a 1 on a scale, you can't use them to play the game really for anything meaningful, and Eula for example being like a 3 or 4. You can make them work, but that means way more grinding for good gear or weapons, needing to play better ect. If the unit is bad enough, it can effect when you get to play, and how quickly you get to play them for end game stuff. Really what I'm trying to get across is the "Roll for who you like, goodness be damned" might get players that are already struggling at some point in the game or new at the game in trouble one day with these kinda games, so I feel like a level of discretion should be given for there sake on advice.
@@mrfatmancory No, I can safely disagree. I have yet come across a Gacha-game that didn't allow me to go for any unit I want to and play the game how I see fit. Do you might have to put in more effort? Yes, maybe. Does that ruin your fun and/or experience? No. After all you play with the units that you like. You are doing exactly what I said not to do: "Overanalyzing" Just stop. No matter what you roll with, you will get past it. And I'm talking from experience, you won't convince me otherwise.
I think for me, the best course of action would be getting string master I have 4 teams built right now. Xiangli Yao,Yinlin, buffer jinshi, ZheZhi, buffer jiyan. mort , buffer Encore, Sanhua , buffer Buffers are verina, shorekeeper, Baizhi and jianxin. I also have Havoc Rover built for you know, MC vibes. stringmaster would be a huge upgrade over cosmic ripples for three of these teams. I have 36 pity in the weapon banner and I get to save a lot of pulls for 2.0 if I pull camellya , I have to get her weapon or wait up to 2-3 patches to get another copy of the 5 star standard weapon. At which point I lose a lot of pulls.
We have the same account or what? I built XY, Jinhsi and Jiyan. I have yinlin and zhezhi. I built rover too cos I love using her in story, overworld and as a sub dps. Only diff is I didn't build encore and I have string master Oh and as a string master haver. Get it. The value of that wep is incredible. It's almost as good as zhezhi"s Sig on her and it's bis with no contest for yinlin
she's a hard pass for me, never really got the hype of the "freaky" scene and her kit solidified my decision. But that's just me, best of luck to everyone who wants her tho hope you get her early!
@TheHitsukia I wonder what other burst characters we'll get in the future that nuke like Jinshi, I'm going to spend all my saved pulls for Jiyan copies I might do the same for Jinshis rerun. I just love their playstyle
@@Saren.7 I need 3 more Jinshi for s6 so that’ll be my goal. With s5 her liberation damage will be insane. Combine that with her dragon breath she’ll deal too much damage.
@@umpalumpa9659 I agree to some extent. If you have most 5 stars S6 yeah I can see how the game becomes casual, but even then you can choose how hard the game can be for you by using weaker units. I think having one character that you really like kick everything in its paths ass is satisfying af especially when you need 3 teams to clear out the harder content…..and also I’m a sucker for crazy(but good) chicks 😅
@@CrescentTheWolf This is what I've been saying. You can just s6 your favourite character and switch to other characters if you don't want to obliterate everything.
Camellya's value is not looking that good to be honest, since she is a sword-wielding, basic attack damage dealing, havoc dps, which we all already get for free in the form of Havoc Rover. Only reason to pull for her is for her playstyle/design/animations, which are the only reasons that really matter after all.
@@Ajax704 ur daddy gonna farm for 2 different sets of havoc echo's eh ?smh...people hardly have 1 good echo set for a element forget about using 2 same echo set in same team for 2 characters
honestly i think cammelya might recieve special treatments like future buffs in order to please the player Base since she is prob rn the most highest demanded char in the whole game similar to yinlin i doubt she get power crept anytime soon on top of that if ur wondering if you should pull for cammelya yes she is pretty worth it if u have sanhua at s6 and even if the char in the next version are genuinely better then her , its not gonna undermine the fact that she can generally clear the end game contents for you easilly
While recognizing she is strong, I just don't like her vibe as a character. I'm also intrigued by the 5 star glacio pistol user on the horizon. I feel like she's a skip, but I never know for sure until the banner drops. Sometimes after a demo run the impulse to pull will kick in.
7:21 DO YOU HAVE A TIME MACHINE BECAUSE NO WAY YOU JUST GOT THAT PREDICTION CORRECT JUST VIA GUESSING. Joke reaction aside, today info came out about the new next 5* who is havoc, and outro gives 20" havoc dmg and 25% basic attack buff extactly as you have said. Lastly it wa stated the outro also summons some kind of enemy magent to drag to poor wheelchair bounded camellya but yet tobe shown if it works for bosses or not. Anyways this and your latest video earned you a subscriber amazing work
@@agiant5715 I saw the Luokeke leaks and I gotta say I'm not impressed. What I've seen shows a rotation of 6 seconds minimum and no buffing outside of the outro. She would need to have some absurd levels of damage in order to compete with an S6 Sanhua.
I dont think camellya would be on par with jiyan. She would be somekind of what at encore level but with crowd control advantage. According to the leaked kit, She got like 2 or 3 nukes on her, but she really need a fast rotation team comps to maximize her damage output. Im likely 60% gonna skip her and decided whether to pull her or not once she is officially released.
@@unendingvoid some madlad from jp/china made calc base on leaked kit on camellya in reddit, and got interested dpr count of it. She might be slightly behind from jiyan, but if you got her at 2nd sequence, she might be on par or maybe better than jinshi. But who knows, she doesnt released yet.
2 things, i love camellyas design. But i’m not gonna pull for her because i love high movement, and hate being stuck in place even if i d insane dps. What if they released a hotter character I like more??
do you get inturupted if enemy hits you if it does sound like calcharo 2.0 like his ultimate for example when an enemy hits you or dodge the attack its like a dps lose since there's a timer
Indeed she is strong but meh i don't like her style of combat .. man i like freedom i want to run somtimes not hanging in some leaf or what ever that thing is ..staring to death making a dodge that would have a high possibility to fail becz of skills issues ..
Pov: Watching this vid after completing every materials and echos needed for her 🤣.... I've never been more ready for a character like this since Arlecchino from GI
@@yv3472 based on my calculations, it's gonna have to be Camellya. Jinhsi may push her damage out faster, but Camellya is able to kill anything in 1 rotation, even things Jinhsi can't. the difference between them is Jinhsi will sometimes clear faster than Camellya but Camellya will have the most consistent fast clears
I have 40 character banner pity and 164 pulls. I don't have guaranteed, however, and I want her and her weapon. I should be able to get it tbh even if I lose 50/50.
Another important point that no one really mentioned is that in my opinion it is actually not a main Dps... More like "changli" Sub-Dps the fact is that both gives a buff with the outro puts it on a level that I think will be worth a lot in the future. I like to compare it to "danjin with 23% buff (camellia 25%)" which is essentially the same without debuff as the 1hit dead XD otherwise both are quite similar. can kill anything on their own. But their true strength becomes apparent in the right team. If you do the calculation with "Sk -> Camellia (Moonlit Clouds set) -> Mc/Danjin" I think it will be quite the OP team.. In addition with camellia, like with Encore, you can switch to the other character while they are in the air spin attack , which enables so many new combos. --- but if you have "danjin c6" and have some skill, you don't really need "camellia c0" since they both do about the same thing +/- skill issue
Camellya is not capable of buffing as far as I am awarex and even then, DMG% and Damage Amp are 2 very different stats, with the former being a lot weaker. Her E state also ends when she swaps out, making her really bad for quickswap
@@ThundahPrime th-cam.com/video/CjCM9pRYDJk/w-d-xo.html not 100% sure that it's a Havoc buff, but it is a Outro-buff... It's just that nothing is known about it because that would make them SuB-DPS (bad for business) and you can clearly see in the video that it is possible to use skills with 2 characters as long as they then switch over to complete their command lead
Im suprised Im having way too much fun playing giga daddy Xiangli Yao more than jinshi or any other characters right now. Just pull for anyone that you think you will have fun playing for a long time. Kuro has released some very unique gameplay characters and they will add more anyways. Also pull for the weapons 100% of the time because its practically free. Sadly wont be pulling for along time.. maybe Lumi
i consider to skip her bcause of the possibly first 5* Gun character in 2.0. i think that those resonators of the second generation will be relativate the advantages of chars like jinhsi and camellya.
Thanks for this video, everyone hyping her up- and you made it make sense for me. She is awesome! but I don’t like the play style. And you if my jihnsi is getting better one day I’ll hold out for her! I pulled C1 on her banner🥹 and her weapon she clears the game for me- zhezhi & Shorekeeper💗 Can’t wait to see some new units!! QUESTIONS! Would it be worth to pick up yinlin instead or just hold off till we see what’s next?
I'm more hyped for Jiyan to be honest. I already planned on skipping Camellya even before she was announced. Design wise she's just not appealing to me and besides, Changli, Jinhsi, Xiangli Yao and if I can get Jiyan all will have more than enough main Dps characters so Camellya isn't necessary, for me.
Bro i have two accounts spectro/glacio and havoc/fusion So with this I don't need to skip And for aero and Lightning kuro is not creating something a must pull for this type
You have taken away all my desire to shoot for Camellia. The one who possibly isn't going to have a better dps sub than sanhua, and who can't move, just ruined my desire quite a bit
for the character i will pull bcz i like her. however idk about the weapon. according to leaks the weapon doesnt seem to me like a big upgrade over the standard one what do you think...
Nah imma wait for jinhsi rerun since I don't have her but I have shorekeeper, imma save up during jiyan and camellya banners I don't have zhezhi yet so... idk
I think we should skip camellya because we want massive dmg dealer (resonance liberation)like jinshi But Camellia would give basic attack boost like jiyan In hard challenges like holograms camellya will not worth it I will save Astrids for 2.0 gun resonater and 2.1 male resonater
Don't say that yet im pretty sure she is gonna wipe the floor whit any enemy or boss ther currently is so im not that worried tbh since most of the time when you fail its a skill issue on the player side but we learn and get better and will adept to her playstyle so i would not rush saying stuff like that wait till she is out test her if you like her or not and then decide on how you like her playstyle im sure most pulling opinions will change when she is out im personally pretty hyped for her since she is really hot and kinky and i find her personality pretty interesting and her gameplay is being a kinky baiblade which is funny imo and remember while in that spin she can parry and we all should know by now pull for gamplay or looks not for dmg since every character will eventually be powercreeped
Here we go again. Random youtube recommendation asking the age old provokative question. I WILL pull for her. I don't know what her weapon does but i WILL pull for it as well. I WILL spend all of my pulls on her if i have to and i don't care who else comes after her. Why? Because i like Camellya. And i don't care if she is "Not good" in a random youtuber's eye.
Imo I dont like her design all that much. It doesnt give me any feeling at all. Idk but im atleast really hyped for Phrolova and the new five star gun character and the girl we get in 2.1 with 2 different eye colours XD
I was leaning on pulling for her, due to the little lore bits about her liking flowers, and, also, the cool roots she has, but they made it weird. I very much dislike her animations, it seems cheap.
I actually didn't like the camellya's design (because it looks too childish to me), and wasn't really hyped about her as a character (sign to don't pull) But I was having a hard time finding videos that talked about its cons, and im a player that really consider the meta. Thank u for the video, I'm skipping now.
if you like using xangli yao, yinlin is great with him! v strong team - personally, i find him on par with my jinhsi team (altho using yuan wu as her sub)
@@ahmedtag3904 I already explained that at best, a Havoc Basic buffer is only a 7% damage increase for camellya and this new sub dps will be almost guaranteed to have more field-time than sanhua
Just letting you know is that CAMELLYA is getting her dedicated support as a 5 star in either 2.0 or 2.1. Jinhsi’s best support is currently Yinlin who’s honestly probably the best sub dps right now because there really isn’t much competition. I could be wrong but that’s what I think.
You lost me when you said Yinlin is Jinhsi's best support, when she buffs Liberation and Electro dmg, and Zhezhi buffs Skill dmg, which is a majority of Jinhsi's dmg😂
As I said in the video, a Havoc Basic buffer would barely be an increase, and they would ALSO need to have S6 Sanhua's ATK buff AND ALSO need ti have Sanhua's insanely low field time.
Camellya is a DPS so it doesn't really apply as much as Kazuha. Beinf "last before a new region" is not a big indicator, it always leads us back to kit strength which we can judge right now.
I probably skip her, I thought her kit will be the perfect support for my strong Rover but nope, she's another Havoc DPS My Rover is already goated there's no way I'm pulling for a second Havoc dps, so might saving for Chun
small mobs were never the problem
Four monkeys before the boss: hold my beer we gonna waste this rover's time
I definitely should because I started playing WuWa because of her. Her animations really solidified my decision.
Even when before may 21st comes, when I've seen the character designs leaks damn im so over her
I reinstalled WuWa for her, but I decided to pull Shorekeeper for both meta and waifu reasons so now I have only 20 pulls saved for Camellya lmao. I'm planning to use her with Sanhua considering she's basic attack focused. Worst case scenario, I guess I can afford to miss her since I can make a copium team out of Calcium, Baizhi and Sanhua. More importantly, I'm just glad that the game actually runs quite smoothly on my below minimum spec tablet than it did at launch on minimum settings 45fps otherwise I would've reinstalled it for nothing.
I'm definitely pulling
Pulling for someting hard and long
Bro....same: 🌚🌝@@IkeaOrca569
Only your DECISIONS? 😂
-Cons:
1. Poor movement
2. Low potential to be as strong in the future
3. Not much stronger than the current DPS characters
-Pros:
1. She is Camellya
-Conclusion: Pull
2. Same as jinshi
Having S - tier armpits
Who do you think have high potential in the future? Im new to wuwa btw😅
@@rtsgaming9370 rover? Welcome)
Idc she's my wife and i don't want to loose her, leak says she's better than jiyan and lower than jinshi
So is she like Pala's Takji then?
Major pro of pulling for Camellya:
Camellya
As we say in the beyblade community
"3, 2, 1, Let it Rip!" hahaha definitely gonna pull for her
The question should be "should you pull or get Camellya?"
Cuz I'm 100% pulling for her and I calculate I will have enough to get 160 pull by the end of her banner but even if I dont have enough pull to guarantee her I will still pull just like I do Changli, did 75 pull and lose to lion boy on the last day of her banner, so sad
I got camellya and r3 encore in 30 pulls :)
I'm still undecided whether to pull Camellya or not. I'm not really interested in her as a character (i'm waiting for more males). BUT i have a well built Sanhua - who is enjoyable to play. So my thoughts are to get Camellya in order to have an excuse to play Sanhua. I already have 3 well built teams (jiyan, Jinhsi and Xangli ones) - so that's why i'm still unsure. Saved enough asterite, but don't really want to waste it. Guess i'll be able to try her out in Illusive Realm and make a decision then.
Hope anyone that wants her is successful with their pulls x
@@Waiting4G3shuLin I would like to say that a DPS Sanhua team is also a thing you can do!
A spectro skill buffer with coord attacks will kinda not work with Jinhsi because she gets less Incandescene stacks with the same element as her, I think Zhezhi was the one Kuro has in mind when creating the BEST support for Jinhsi as she is Glacio Coord attacker (which will generate more stacks for Jinhsi) with skill buff😊
Coordinate Attacks and other attacks have different stacks, they can still stack at the same time even with the same element. Zhezhi is a good support for Jinhsi but not the best, she can't use half of the buff Zhezhi provides.
Coordinated attacks and Regular attacks have seperate cooldowns, so it would still work. Even then, they can throw a curveball and make the Spectro Skill buffer an Electro character
Yes, you can, the only buff you don't use is the increase in glacial damage. @@julius_pat
@@julius_pat so we need to wait for next glacio character who using elemental skill as her/his main damage, like Xiangli Yao for Yinlin
She would be my fourth havoc dps after Rover, Taoqi, and Danjin. Feels like havoc bosses would really suck lol
You like Camellya's design and playstyle? Yes?
--> Pull for her
No?
--> Don't pull for her
Everything else doesn't matter, it's a game and you're supposed to enjoy and have fun with it.
If you overanalyze things too much (especially if you do before said content is even released) you ruin things for yourself.
Don't be a doofus.
I don't think that's always true. For example I play genshin, and early on I rolled for Eula because I like her design and playstyle of a big nuke. But as timed passed she's really fallen, is super clunky, and doesn't do much damage. Now I'm not saying this is the case for Camellya. But at SOME point a charcter can be bad enough to just not be worth it. Like Imagine if Cammellya did literally 1 damage off of every attack she did. Would you say it would be a good idea to pull for her because of "Design and playstyle"? Sure, that's an extreme example, but it shows that at SOME point, the weight does move to that point. That said I don't think Cammellya is going to be bad at all and am going to be pulling for her myself.
@@mrfatmancory
By that logic you would not pull for any character - On a long enough timeline every character gets powerkrept.
Also, funny enough, I'm in the same boat as you and am huge Eula-fan myself (Together with Raiden in the team that lets her just armor-break things). I mean, it has been a year since last I played but even then my characters were heavily outdated and I had no issues beating the content. Maybe it's how our characters are built or something but I'd disagree for example that she feels weak.
@@EtherealRune See the thing is sure, if enough time passes some characters will get power crept but the strong ones tend to be way more resilient to it and as such you get to play them more easier. Genshin has a decent number of units that came out early enough like Raiden and Kaz that are still good because at the time of release they were the best things you could be doing at the time, and have held up. And sure, you can do end game content with units like Eula, you just need to put in WAY more work for her (In Eula's case because just how shafted phy is as a damage type in the game). It goes on a scale I think. The theoretical 1 damage per attack unit being like a 1 on a scale, you can't use them to play the game really for anything meaningful, and Eula for example being like a 3 or 4. You can make them work, but that means way more grinding for good gear or weapons, needing to play better ect. If the unit is bad enough, it can effect when you get to play, and how quickly you get to play them for end game stuff.
Really what I'm trying to get across is the "Roll for who you like, goodness be damned" might get players that are already struggling at some point in the game or new at the game in trouble one day with these kinda games, so I feel like a level of discretion should be given for there sake on advice.
@@mrfatmancory No, I can safely disagree.
I have yet come across a Gacha-game that didn't allow me to go for any unit I want to and play the game how I see fit.
Do you might have to put in more effort? Yes, maybe.
Does that ruin your fun and/or experience? No. After all you play with the units that you like.
You are doing exactly what I said not to do: "Overanalyzing"
Just stop.
No matter what you roll with, you will get past it.
And I'm talking from experience, you won't convince me otherwise.
Im not pulling for her. She doesn’t appeal to me as a character.
I think for me, the best course of action would be getting string master
I have 4 teams built right now.
Xiangli Yao,Yinlin, buffer
jinshi, ZheZhi, buffer
jiyan. mort , buffer
Encore, Sanhua , buffer
Buffers are verina, shorekeeper, Baizhi and jianxin.
I also have Havoc Rover built for you know, MC vibes. stringmaster would be a huge upgrade over cosmic ripples for three of these teams. I have 36 pity in the weapon banner and I get to save a lot of pulls for 2.0
if I pull camellya , I have to get her weapon or wait up to 2-3 patches to get another copy of the 5 star standard weapon. At which point I lose a lot of pulls.
We have the same account or what? I built XY, Jinhsi and Jiyan. I have yinlin and zhezhi. I built rover too cos I love using her in story, overworld and as a sub dps.
Only diff is I didn't build encore and I have string master
Oh and as a string master haver. Get it. The value of that wep is incredible. It's almost as good as zhezhi"s Sig on her and it's bis with no contest for yinlin
she's a hard pass for me, never really got the hype of the "freaky" scene and her kit solidified my decision. But that's just me, best of luck to everyone who wants her tho hope you get her early!
Same for me. I never liked her personality and I think just Jinhsi will be enough for me in terms of power.
@TheHitsukia I wonder what other burst characters we'll get in the future that nuke like Jinshi, I'm going to spend all my saved pulls for Jiyan copies I might do the same for Jinshis rerun. I just love their playstyle
@@Saren.7 Tbh Jiyan is still really good if you have multiple dupes
@@TheHitsukia exactly his dups are busted and I love his design and personality so why the hell not it's a game. Who would you get as dups?
@@Saren.7 I need 3 more Jinshi for s6 so that’ll be my goal. With s5 her liberation damage will be insane. Combine that with her dragon breath she’ll deal too much damage.
Already prefarmed her and will go for S6 so yeah I’m hype
The game become boring when you insta kill everything… just saying.
@@umpalumpa9659 I agree to some extent. If you have most 5 stars S6 yeah I can see how the game becomes casual, but even then you can choose how hard the game can be for you by using weaker units. I think having one character that you really like kick everything in its paths ass is satisfying af especially when you need 3 teams to clear out the harder content…..and also I’m a sucker for crazy(but good) chicks 😅
@@CrescentTheWolf This is what I've been saying. You can just s6 your favourite character and switch to other characters if you don't want to obliterate everything.
definitely worth it after moveset is shown, who cares what kind of dps she has there 😊
Been waiting since the start never back down never what.
Camellya's value is not looking that good to be honest, since she is a sword-wielding, basic attack damage dealing, havoc dps, which we all already get for free in the form of Havoc Rover.
Only reason to pull for her is for her playstyle/design/animations, which are the only reasons that really matter after all.
You can play them together lol
@@Ajax704 ur daddy gonna farm for 2 different sets of havoc echo's eh ?smh...people hardly have 1 good echo set for a element forget about using 2 same echo set in same team for 2 characters
@rudeus6621 bruh I have the same echo set on changli and encore both together in the same team with shorekeeper and they're pretty strong.
kamora is looking more cool in 2.0
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ill wait till the new gun dps drip marketing if i like that character camellya is a skip
Im skipping shes not really my playstyle
honestly i think cammelya might recieve special treatments like future buffs in order to please the player Base since she is prob rn the most highest demanded char in the whole game similar to yinlin i doubt she get power crept anytime soon
on top of that if ur wondering if you should pull for cammelya yes she is pretty worth it if u have sanhua at s6
and even if the char in the next version are genuinely better then her , its not gonna undermine the fact that she can generally clear the end game contents for you easilly
While recognizing she is strong, I just don't like her vibe as a character. I'm also intrigued by the 5 star glacio pistol user on the horizon. I feel like she's a skip, but I never know for sure until the banner drops. Sometimes after a demo run the impulse to pull will kick in.
7:21 DO YOU HAVE A TIME MACHINE BECAUSE NO WAY YOU JUST GOT THAT PREDICTION CORRECT JUST VIA GUESSING.
Joke reaction aside, today info came out about the new next 5* who is havoc, and outro gives 20" havoc dmg and 25% basic attack buff extactly as you have said. Lastly it wa stated the outro also summons some kind of enemy magent to drag to poor wheelchair bounded camellya but yet tobe shown if it works for bosses or not.
Anyways this and your latest video earned you a subscriber amazing work
@@agiant5715 I saw the Luokeke leaks and I gotta say I'm not impressed. What I've seen shows a rotation of 6 seconds minimum and no buffing outside of the outro. She would need to have some absurd levels of damage in order to compete with an S6 Sanhua.
5:50 this should also be fixed by delayed counter attacks since they keep invincibility
wait forget Camellya for a second what did u feed ure team bruv 💀i never reached that high dps yet. but ya we going all in for Camellya all or nothing
I dont think camellya would be on par with jiyan. She would be somekind of what at encore level but with crowd control advantage.
According to the leaked kit, She got like 2 or 3 nukes on her, but she really need a fast rotation team comps to maximize her damage output.
Im likely 60% gonna skip her and decided whether to pull her or not once she is officially released.
It's really cool how strong Jiyan is for being the launch banner, and he doesn't have a heavy attack/aero deepen support either
@@unendingvoid some madlad from jp/china made calc base on leaked kit on camellya in reddit, and got interested dpr count of it.
She might be slightly behind from jiyan, but if you got her at 2nd sequence, she might be on par or maybe better than jinshi.
But who knows, she doesnt released yet.
@@hannsu947 better to wait when she's out yeah
I have 10k astrites. I love Camellia design and animations. Obviously I'm gonna pull, lol
2 things, i love camellyas design. But i’m not gonna pull for her because i love high movement, and hate being stuck in place even if i d insane dps. What if they released a hotter character I like more??
I didn't quite finish the video, I'm pulling for her but when is the exact date she's going to be released?
First time i saw her. I know I'm getting her
do you get inturupted if enemy hits you if it does sound like calcharo 2.0 like his ultimate for example when an enemy hits you or dodge the attack its like a dps lose since there's a timer
Preety sure one of her inherent skills gives her resistance to interruption, so you're good. Don't know if she'll lose much dps after dodging though.
Indeed she is strong but meh i don't like her style of combat .. man i like freedom i want to run somtimes not hanging in some leaf or what ever that thing is ..staring to death making a dodge that would have a high possibility to fail becz of skills issues ..
Pov: Watching this vid after completing every materials and echos needed for her 🤣....
I've never been more ready for a character like this since Arlecchino from GI
Im pulling no matter what if I dont get her then next time :) I pull good design characters thats all
ill wait for jinshi rerun i think
hi bro, can u tell me who is better in c6 between camellya and jinhsi please because i lost a bet and i have to pull a c6 in the game?
thanks
@@yv3472 based on my calculations, it's gonna have to be Camellya. Jinhsi may push her damage out faster, but Camellya is able to kill anything in 1 rotation, even things Jinhsi can't.
the difference between them is
Jinhsi will sometimes clear faster than Camellya
but Camellya will have the most consistent fast clears
I have enough saved to get her waveband so I might as well buy that and pull for her weapon instead. Then save everything else for 2.0
I'll pull only for seeing her parties 👀💦
I have 40 character banner pity and 164 pulls. I don't have guaranteed, however, and I want her and her weapon. I should be able to get it tbh even if I lose 50/50.
Another important point that no one really mentioned is that in my opinion it is actually not a main Dps... More like "changli" Sub-Dps the fact is that both gives a buff with the outro puts it on a level that I think will be worth a lot in the future.
I like to compare it to "danjin with 23% buff (camellia 25%)" which is essentially the same without debuff as the 1hit dead XD
otherwise both are quite similar. can kill anything on their own. But their true strength becomes apparent in the right team.
If you do the calculation with "Sk -> Camellia (Moonlit Clouds set) -> Mc/Danjin"
I think it will be quite the OP team..
In addition with camellia, like with Encore, you can switch to the other character while they are in the air spin attack , which enables so many new combos.
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but if you have "danjin c6" and have some skill, you don't really need "camellia c0" since they both do about the same thing +/- skill issue
Camellya is not capable of buffing as far as I am awarex and even then, DMG% and Damage Amp are 2 very different stats, with the former being a lot weaker. Her E state also ends when she swaps out, making her really bad for quickswap
@@ThundahPrime th-cam.com/video/CjCM9pRYDJk/w-d-xo.html
not 100% sure that it's a Havoc buff, but it is a Outro-buff...
It's just that nothing is known about it because that would make them SuB-DPS (bad for business) and you can clearly see in the video that it is possible to use skills with 2 characters as long as they then switch over to complete their command lead
@@mr.noname7320 camellya won'lt be buffing any other characters, her outro is just havoc dmg that's what the current kit says
Im suprised Im having way too much fun playing giga daddy Xiangli Yao more than jinshi or any other characters right now. Just pull for anyone that you think you will have fun playing for a long time. Kuro has released some very unique gameplay characters and they will add more anyways. Also pull for the weapons 100% of the time because its practically free. Sadly wont be pulling for along time.. maybe Lumi
if you gonna pay money then it doesnt matter which one is strongest
you forgot fallacy, that fly mode is just horrendous
Did someone know the DPS of Jinshi team pls??!
i consider to skip her bcause of the possibly first 5* Gun character in 2.0. i think that those resonators of the second generation will be relativate the advantages of chars like jinhsi and camellya.
Thanks for this video, everyone hyping her up- and you made it make sense for me. She is awesome! but I don’t like the play style. And you if my jihnsi is getting better one day I’ll hold out for her! I pulled C1 on her banner🥹 and her weapon she clears the game for me- zhezhi & Shorekeeper💗
Can’t wait to see some new units!!
QUESTIONS! Would it be worth to pick up yinlin instead or just hold off till we see what’s next?
shorekeeper didn't come home so I guess im pulling for her
I have good build of jinshi, should i pull for camiliaa
I'm more hyped for Jiyan to be honest. I already planned on skipping Camellya even before she was announced. Design wise she's just not appealing to me and besides, Changli, Jinhsi, Xiangli Yao and if I can get Jiyan all will have more than enough main Dps characters so Camellya isn't necessary, for me.
Am gona skip
60 pull and still haven't gotten her
why is wheel chair your idea of movement 😭😭
because she is incapable of moving and thus in a wheelchair
Bro i have two accounts spectro/glacio and havoc/fusion
So with this I don't need to skip
And for aero and Lightning kuro is not creating something a must pull for this type
You have taken away all my desire to shoot for Camellia. The one who possibly isn't going to have a better dps sub than sanhua, and who can't move, just ruined my desire quite a bit
Lol she reminds me of Lingyang in terms of restricted movements during enhanced state
for the character i will pull bcz i like her. however idk about the weapon. according to leaks the weapon doesnt seem to me like a big upgrade over the standard one what do you think...
It gives 12% atk + 60% basic atk amplification when you're at max stacks so basically 72%. I'd say it's pretty good if kuro doesn't decide to nerf it
It’s about a 20% Dmg increase with her sig vs genesis
@@Brendleton is that worth the investement lol cuz idk much about calcs ...
@@mouradsofian1724 20% more dmg is a ton of damage, that's like having a lvl 100 character
@@oldeyenoughy i see well i shall see through it and reconsider.
Installed wuwa for changli stayed for camellia 😅❤
Sanhua and danjin are really worth the investment
Bro I got to come Camellyas my luck is so good in this banner go and get 1 or 2 camellyas premiered in ceepy waifu Camellya banner from today onwards
I need resonance chains for my dragon boy I’ll get her on her rerun
Nah imma wait for jinhsi rerun since I don't have her but I have shorekeeper, imma save up during jiyan and camellya banners
I don't have zhezhi yet so... idk
Ultrakill ost 💯💯🔥 Also probably skipping Camellya if she isn't going to be quickswap-style dps
I had hoped she‘d buff Havoc MC or at least have the same Outro as Changli but havoc but nah. She‘s another main DPS. Still on the fence. 🤔🤔🤔
I think we should skip camellya because we want massive dmg dealer (resonance liberation)like jinshi
But Camellia would give basic attack boost like jiyan
In hard challenges like holograms camellya will not worth it
I will save Astrids for 2.0 gun resonater and 2.1 male resonater
Don't say that yet im pretty sure she is gonna wipe the floor whit any enemy or boss ther currently is so im not that worried tbh since most of the time when you fail its a skill issue on the player side but we learn and get better and will adept to her playstyle so i would not rush saying stuff like that wait till she is out test her if you like her or not and then decide on how you like her playstyle im sure most pulling opinions will change when she is out im personally pretty hyped for her since she is really hot and kinky and i find her personality pretty interesting and her gameplay is being a kinky baiblade which is funny imo and remember while in that spin she can parry and we all should know by now pull for gamplay or looks not for dmg since every character will eventually be powercreeped
Here we go again. Random youtube recommendation asking the age old provokative question. I WILL pull for her. I don't know what her weapon does but i WILL pull for it as well. I WILL spend all of my pulls on her if i have to and i don't care who else comes after her.
Why? Because i like Camellya. And i don't care if she is "Not good" in a random youtuber's eye.
Who asked?
The video is for people who don't know who to pull for
Honestly? Getting Camellya made losing my 50/50 for Shorekeeper worth it
How you do those butterfly wing skill with shorekeeper lol
Intro skill
@@makopy4637 ...how? I try switch up but didn't work.
@@Evanisya3rd intro after ULT
@@InvisibleBiscuit thanks
Do i care ? instant pull for unhinged woman
Imo I dont like her design all that much. It doesnt give me any feeling at all. Idk but im atleast really hyped for Phrolova and the new five star gun character and the girl we get in 2.1 with 2 different eye colours XD
Same fr, I don't get the hype behind her, shorekeeper better
@@ZARfasksame she's so bland
I was leaning on pulling for her, due to the little lore bits about her liking flowers, and, also, the cool roots she has, but they made it weird. I very much dislike her animations, it seems cheap.
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hmmm if I got 21k astrite yep pull but if I only have half astrite nah I pass
question: who is Jenshi/Genshi?
@@ragael1024 I was saying Jinhsi, she is the dragon girl that I was using in some of the background footage
I actually didn't like the camellya's design (because it looks too childish to me), and wasn't really hyped about her as a character (sign to don't pull)
But I was having a hard time finding videos that talked about its cons, and im a player that really consider the meta. Thank u for the video, I'm skipping now.
are you exagerrating or does camellya movement is that Baaad? , cant you just press W+shift like other characters ?
@@dhil1468 She is not able to do that. Her only way to move is with dodges
@@ThundahPrime omg that sounds awful
Skip
I'm skipping her to save for jinshi's rerun in 2.0
Is that confirmed?
I'm also waiting for Jinhsi
She is not getting a rerun that soon idk why y’all keep saying this when it’s 2 new five stars in 2.0😭
@@HenrySuggs-by5ndmeanwhile Jiyan and yinlin coming back very soon. They might do double rate up. You never know and jinhsi getting skin in 2.0
double banners could happen
@@HenrySuggs-by5nd It will be in the second half of 2.0. It's confirmed by the skins
i read that as pull or strip
Yinlin or Camellia?
Camellya. Yinlin's usecases are very low right now.
if you like using xangli yao, yinlin is great with him! v strong team - personally, i find him on par with my jinhsi team (altho using yuan wu as her sub)
Skip because already have havoc rover
Womp womp
Okay im skipping
Wdym by not as strong in the future
One of the 2.0 characters is a havoc sub-dps 😂
@@ahmedtag3904 I already explained that at best, a Havoc Basic buffer is only a 7% damage increase for camellya and this new sub dps will be almost guaranteed to have more field-time than sanhua
@@ThundahPrime its rumored that the sub-dps is going to be a goth so that is 100 power increase
Just letting you know is that CAMELLYA is getting her dedicated support as a 5 star in either 2.0 or 2.1. Jinhsi’s best support is currently Yinlin who’s honestly probably the best sub dps right now because there really isn’t much competition. I could be wrong but that’s what I think.
You lost me when you said Yinlin is Jinhsi's best support, when she buffs Liberation and Electro dmg, and Zhezhi buffs Skill dmg, which is a majority of Jinhsi's dmg😂
Bro forgot about zhezhi
Bro living in a cave
As I said in the video, a Havoc Basic buffer would barely be an increase, and they would ALSO need to have S6 Sanhua's ATK buff AND ALSO need ti have Sanhua's insanely low field time.
Last before 2.0 *cough * kazuha *cough * iykyk
Camellya is a DPS so it doesn't really apply as much as Kazuha. Beinf "last before a new region" is not a big indicator, it always leads us back to kit strength which we can judge right now.
camellya or yinlin ?
@@itsmedobrick8677 Camellya easily
Yinlin no debate bro
Dont listen to this dude
@@ThundahPrimeMassive cap bro
i am going for giyan
I probably skip her, I thought her kit will be the perfect support for my strong Rover but nope, she's another Havoc DPS
My Rover is already goated there's no way I'm pulling for a second Havoc dps, so might saving for Chun
Yes