1983 Hot Wheels - Complete Collection - Year By Year (YBY)

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  • @kraco2866
    @kraco2866 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One word.............OUTSTANDING.............

  • @johnfoltz8183
    @johnfoltz8183 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Thunder Roller is my favorite hot wheels casting

    • @ettedaoT
      @ettedaoT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It weights 20 pounds

  • @nethalus
    @nethalus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mountain Dew & the cabover are Kenworth, the wrecker is a Ford, and the bonneted truck is a Peterbilt, cracking collection there

  • @HotWheelsTV
    @HotWheelsTV 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Super show! Thanx for sharing your collection of `83 vehicles!

    • @wtffor
      @wtffor  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, it was my pleasure!

  • @PaulWootenwrfcustomsdiecast
    @PaulWootenwrfcustomsdiecast 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome road down memory lane I was 12 years old

  • @winnabegobob1547
    @winnabegobob1547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see alot of collections but yours is my absolute favorite collection wow

  • @fork_35
    @fork_35 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😃😃😃😃😃 I'm Christian and I am 7. I LOVE hot wheels. I have over 500 cars already. I wish I had your cars and I would LOVE your storage spots to display your cars. I have to put mine in a big bin and they get scratched up plus I cant see them all displayed. I keep all my cars organized such as motorcycles, work trucks, years, make, ect. Ty for your video. It makes me happy because noone else really likes or understands my excitement for my hot wheels except my mom. She does all she can to support my hobby but shes a single mom so she doesnt know how to buy all the display things but we will get them as soon as she learns how to build them she said nice cars ty

    • @wtffor
      @wtffor  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your message, and I hope you get your shelves built soon! Hot Wheels are exciting, there are many that agree with you including myself!

  • @plumbingstuffinoregon2471
    @plumbingstuffinoregon2471 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Mountain Dew truck is a Kenworth k100, and the yellow cabovers are Kenworth k100s.

  • @KountFive
    @KountFive 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1983 is kinda the period from where I find most of my old Hotwheels in England. It’s probably my favourite black wall moment. Love the escort and the Toyota, two cars I would have to admit I would pay for. Great persistence needed to get through this video by you, so much to remember. Cute kitty, pets and children eh !! Lol.

    • @monsieurdiecasts3393
      @monsieurdiecasts3393 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      This guy is one of the best on TH-cam and he’s from 🇨🇦

  • @minastronasse
    @minastronasse 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Speed Machines variations are so awesome. Amazing collection, man !

  • @Championdjk
    @Championdjk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lots of awesome stuff in 83! Love the real riders series. I have and wear the belt buckle from the 3 pack but sadly none of the cars. Great vid as always!

  • @glipabazza9994
    @glipabazza9994 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Spectacular and very informative. It's like the university of Hot Wheels.

  • @ΣπυροςΤινελλης-ο9δ
    @ΣπυροςΤινελλης-ο9δ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i have a lot of these cars i loved that season!!you are the best collector for me...

    • @ioanniskritsotakis1228
      @ioanniskritsotakis1228 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Σπυρος Τινελλης Ρε φίλε συγνώμη.υπαρχουν και άλλοι που συλλέγουν hot wheels στην Ελλαδα; γιατί νόμιζα ήμουν ο μόνος...

    • @ΣπυροςΤινελλης-ο9δ
      @ΣπυροςΤινελλης-ο9δ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ioannis Kritsotakis οχι φιλε μου ειμαστε παρα πολλοι κ συλεγω χρονια !!!

    • @ioanniskritsotakis1228
      @ioanniskritsotakis1228 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Σπυρος Τινελλης και πώς και δεν υπάρχει κάποιο club ή φόρουμ,κατι για να τα λέμε,ανταλαγες κτλπ;

  • @EdsterIII
    @EdsterIII 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow I love binge watching these collection videos. Those real riders look awesome. The Shelby is so wicked. So are the 4x4's I love as well. And the Ferrari castings always awesome. While I love these my health has now put financial restraints on me to say the least. That's actually why I'm awake now and have been since 2am. I have a biopsy later today and I'm just a tad nervous.
    I had at least 10+ full hot wheels cases filled with cars from 70-82. They all were lost. Now I have a few older ones but I've gotten into racing the Monster Jam and newer Hot Wheels. For example the one Super T-Hunt I actually found in a case I bought was the remake on the red 67 Camaro. Hood doesn't open but still it's still a favorite of all my Super T-Hunts.
    Anyway another AWESOME video and a trip to the past...lol. I could type stories and car castings for hours...lol but well for example the 200SX, Ford Escort XR3, and Flat Out 442. Those are amazing cars I'd love to add.
    The Jaguar XJS I had a Silver one back in the day. It really hurts to see all the classic toys I had that are gone and worth so much money...😢.

  • @painkillersclan
    @painkillersclan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    superb collection! all those real riders, i recall rolling quite a few of these castings around my yard ;)
    thanx for taking the time to post these great videos!

  • @michaelreece458
    @michaelreece458 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fabulous collection of '83's and great presentation once again! Best Hot Wheels collection and presentations on all of TH-cam.

  • @ericmcginnis2097
    @ericmcginnis2097 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    After u reviewed "second wind" the next vehichle was called "spacer racer" I personaly look at the "second wind" as speed racer's car just different paint so it was fitting to hear the word racer just after with the next vehichle!

  • @TheMrhyper
    @TheMrhyper 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't even collect hot wheels, but I love all kinds of toys and I sell all kinds as well and love learning about them all. I just stumbled across your videos by chance and you're an awesome channel!

    • @wtffor
      @wtffor  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! Hope you stick around for a few more videos! I'm reviewing my complete Hot Wheels collection over the next few months if not years

  • @78parkave
    @78parkave 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man u have one of the best Hot wheels collections I think I've ever seen and your videos are always amazing

  • @TheKingRacer007
    @TheKingRacer007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video as always! The best hot wheels collection of the internet!

  • @GuitardedAndBroke
    @GuitardedAndBroke 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really dig the Escort also. I have one loose and it was super hard to find. I paid about $40 US for it off eBay about a year ago.

  • @Etienne_Diecast
    @Etienne_Diecast 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That Mercedes 380sel. Splendid!

  • @Farhanshonda
    @Farhanshonda 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You are a collector guru

  • @l1zrdking
    @l1zrdking 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    83 was the last year I was into matchbox as a kid. I had several of these, especially the yellow rig, takes me right back .

  • @seannyninetyseven5863
    @seannyninetyseven5863 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video, brother! Since when did you start collecting hotwheels? :D

    • @wtffor
      @wtffor  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! I've been collecting non-stop since I was a child, but very seriously for the last 15 years with the advent of eBay

  • @slayerfreaked
    @slayerfreaked 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And Thunder Roller is also a Kenworth. But based on the Aerodyne version.

  • @danp5154
    @danp5154 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I checked on ebay and there are some good prices on the rare cars.

  • @marcoceccarelli6415
    @marcoceccarelli6415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is completely awesome. I had a lot of these cars back in the day. Brings back a lot of memories

  • @comandermcgarrett7795
    @comandermcgarrett7795 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    ive started watching you again. i hadnt watched you in 3 years

  • @joshuasmith2364
    @joshuasmith2364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dad was a trucker and my truck went everywhere with me to.

  • @rockercater
    @rockercater 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOU have the biggest collection on the PLANET.... YOU RULE BROTHER...

    • @wtffor
      @wtffor  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks brother! It's a fun hobby!

  • @yakacm
    @yakacm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love this series of videos, I guess I will be adding a few more saved searches to eBay after I watch this video, lol.

  • @JohnSTF72
    @JohnSTF72 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing 1983 complete Hot Wheels collection! With these prizes some of these go for, it's no easy feat to acquire a full set.
    It's fun to see the tampo for the 1983 '67 Camaro being re-used for the 2017 version of this casting.
    It'd be nice to see some these castings re-released, like the Mirada Stoker or the Classic Packard.
    Thanks once again for the detailed presentation and have a happy 2018!

  • @MarcdelaCruz1
    @MarcdelaCruz1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Incredible collection. Congrats!

  • @christophermifsud9543
    @christophermifsud9543 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great collection and video , as a brand name hot wheels were available here for a limited time but most shops held stocks of matchbox, dinky and corgi which were abundantly available on the market, perhaps because of our past connections with England.

  • @thedungeon593
    @thedungeon593 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love these videos, awesome cars and great information!!

  • @brlngtn
    @brlngtn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I had some of those when I was growing up.

  • @theoriginalstarwarsdan
    @theoriginalstarwarsdan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just sold the belt buckle camaro on my etsy shop! didn't even realize I have the other two cars with it. I LOVE the real riders btw. I still remember begging my parents for them, and sure enough xmas morning several were in my stocking. Still have them. awesome collection! love the info on variations and rarities.

  • @sonofdat
    @sonofdat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OmG. Wow what an amazing collection. I've got a few of those 1983 cars.. very Cool video

  • @Lherrerajr78
    @Lherrerajr78 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the CJ , the vette split window the VW van n a few others toys of my childhood.. a nice collection.

  • @diecasttvchannel
    @diecasttvchannel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Brilliant video again buddy. Appreciate what your are doing for the die-cast community by making these highly informative reference videos documenting your collection. Enjoyed the walking backwards at the start, and was thinking either you filmed it exactly as we saw it or else you were walking forwards, talking backwards perfectly, and then reversed the video LOL! Thanks again mate =)

    • @wtffor
      @wtffor  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Talking backwards perfectly, now that would be tough! Unless I can find a way to incorporate special effects into my videos... Thanks again for watching, your kind words, and your supportive comments.

  • @coolwheelz5190
    @coolwheelz5190 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like your videos, especially when you show one whole year! However, I do need to correct you on one thing.......real riders were the same price as regular main lines, at least in the US. It may have been different in Canada, but I have 28 original real riders I bought for about $1 US dollar.......it was a glorious sight to see them on the pegs......:)

    • @kylesoler4139
      @kylesoler4139 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yet now the modern equivalent (Car Culture) costs double or even triple the price of a mainline.

    • @markostermayer3614
      @markostermayer3614 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kyle Soler triple? Ha! Here it’s 5x more

  • @thomasbrizendine339
    @thomasbrizendine339 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing I would love to get them all

  • @quietstormcurtis4328
    @quietstormcurtis4328 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your collection is off the chain. That rocket car display on the wall is sick. Very impressive bro

  • @dominant68channel53
    @dominant68channel53 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We us a world of great vision you are given .

  • @CrackerJaxx70
    @CrackerJaxx70 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    ENJOYED Brother!! What a Great Year for Hot Wheels!!

  • @dam_enchiladas
    @dam_enchiladas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video 👍 what would you say are the best sources on the web for complete Hot Wheels lists? Most of the lists I come across seem to be very vague. This video is extremely informative. I would like to get more serious with my collecting and start filling in some holes.

  • @chainraiderdiscgolf
    @chainraiderdiscgolf ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have the Longshot and the Thunder Roller. Love both of them!!

  • @heavyweight6855
    @heavyweight6855 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a very disciplined work ! Good To see

  • @djfragovil
    @djfragovil 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice truck Yellow Kenworth K100

  • @DavesDiecast
    @DavesDiecast 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fantastic O-Dawg...I really like these videos..i always use them for reference when I look to add to my collection.

    • @wtffor
      @wtffor  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Dave! Glad to be of some assistance!

  • @mrpistonrecaro6483
    @mrpistonrecaro6483 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love your videos. Keep em coming

  • @heathkinn
    @heathkinn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ALWAYS AMAZING to see your collection ....im always in awe of your massive collection and love all the information you give on these.....

    • @wtffor
      @wtffor  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you :) I always appreciate your messages

  • @trackbeast7531
    @trackbeast7531 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow! This is impressive!

  • @NandiCollector
    @NandiCollector 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    superb collection!

  • @b.bayerdesign8878
    @b.bayerdesign8878 ปีที่แล้ว

    From what I’ve been told the metallic with yellow tampos were test pieces that were never supposed to be released to the public. Very few made it into the wild making it incredibly rare. I still need one for my turbo mustang collection along with a yellow interior white car which is also very rare.

  • @luckydog20
    @luckydog20 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, nice walk down memory lane.

    • @wtffor
      @wtffor  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @beatnikbanditracing3688
    @beatnikbanditracing3688 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    YEAAAAAAHHHHH '83 is here

  • @danp5154
    @danp5154 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love your work! Keep it up!

  • @orestedamore9135
    @orestedamore9135 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi, is quite some time I meant to ask you... do you sell anything? I see that you have some double... 😁 thanks

  • @rockercater
    @rockercater 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One day when im in CANADA One of the historical land mark I got to see is THE HOT WHEEL ROOM. :) I could possibly faint, I have never been in such close proximity to so many HOT WHEELS

  • @thehotwheelguys
    @thehotwheelguys ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for a great video I have the 15th Birthday camaro as well as the complete set unopened I also have that mustang with blue tampo mint Started collecting about 6 years ago now its a must with all the grandkids

  • @danwinchell8716
    @danwinchell8716 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    awesome video Dude

  • @diecast_MikeEspo
    @diecast_MikeEspo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow what a awesome collection, great video. Mike Espo .

  • @francispalmer9737
    @francispalmer9737 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant vid. the red Renault is a Renault 5. Thank you wtffor

  • @tommymyturn
    @tommymyturn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the turbo mustang with the blue comes in 2 variations. i have them both but never thought much about till now.

  • @22kpar1xcyberdyne9
    @22kpar1xcyberdyne9 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great display. It has motivated me to reconfigure my living room to be able to visually enjoy my intense collection as well. I have the topper for the 56 Ford. I couldn't figure out what it went to. I kept it in my camper, rv group of vehicles. So now I know to install it. I was born in 72. So 80s hotwheels are my kind of cars. I am surprised at speed racers values. I always hate them and keep them seperated from the ones I considered more visually appealing jewels. Lol.

  • @joshuasmith2364
    @joshuasmith2364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My tanker truck was orange.

  • @joshuasmith2364
    @joshuasmith2364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my blue chevy had the small grill just wide enough to protect the grill.

  • @SEGAdude95
    @SEGAdude95 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video buddy..😉😊👍✋✌

    • @wtffor
      @wtffor  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @dennisthebarber6114
    @dennisthebarber6114 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your cars and I love that you collect and love them all also the look is so retro ❤

  • @javierdelgado777
    @javierdelgado777 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brotha I salute you all your videos are amazing. Always hypnotized by your elaborate detailing description on each individual car knowledge truly appreciated.Man your collection is the pinnacle, and holy grail of diecast keep up the good work you are an ambassador to the collectors community.👍✊have a super 2018😁

  • @ignacioalvarez9948
    @ignacioalvarez9948 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    su collecion es asombrosa espectacular lo felicito gracias a DIOS no sufro del mal de la envidia ojala suba mas videos pero donde las tomas sean mas lentas para poder ver mas detalles de modelos que seria imposibles de adquirir gracias

  • @johnwheaton4636
    @johnwheaton4636 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video
    Thank you
    Helps me appreciate 83s much more

  • @stevenlugo924
    @stevenlugo924 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great video !! you're so great at putting these videos together . Thanks again Bro . Definetly learned plenty and I didn't know that back in 1983 hot wheels was making JDM cars 😀 that's cool .

    • @kylesoler4139
      @kylesoler4139 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah they did but apparently they were considered peg warmers even though that ain't the case these days.

    • @stevenlugo924
      @stevenlugo924 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What made me a JDM fan was seeing skylines of any year , in auto shows or outside people driving them . If you love cars then you gotta love collecting hot wheels ? We can all agree on it :) I didn't know they were peg warmers however their style was a lot different before .

    • @stevenlugo924
      @stevenlugo924 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But basically I find every JDM car unique :) the Datsun , fairlady , kam mery , sopra , silvia , rally cat , etc etc ...

  • @Cerebro1983uk
    @Cerebro1983uk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was born in 07/01/1983 and it was my 35th on 07/01/2018 very nice car collection were would you put all these vehicle's if they were real ones

  • @davidfox391
    @davidfox391 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super sweet collection!! Love to have at least some of those, some never seen before or new existed

  • @gerardramirez6320
    @gerardramirez6320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dam nice Brother, 👌 am 63 and always loved Hot Wheels 🔥 could never afford when younger but collecting for my Grandkids.

  • @Lahire-s7l
    @Lahire-s7l 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super hot wheels cool top trouvaie😊

  • @VinceHobbs-p5n
    @VinceHobbs-p5n 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a 1983 food truck. I didn't see that one in your complete collection?

  • @juangabrielgonzalezhernand84
    @juangabrielgonzalezhernand84 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice collection bro one of my favorites is the cadillac seville and i see you have a variation the gold one with tampo at side i have one but is gray i learned something new i hope to find one like yours Regards

  • @kirasiohotwheelsracing6191
    @kirasiohotwheelsracing6191 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! That is awesome. What a collection!!

  • @slayerfreaked
    @slayerfreaked 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The box truck is based on a Kenworth. The tow truck is based on a Ford.

  • @thegurule1
    @thegurule1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have any lowriders in your collection? Would be cool if you would do a video on them (all brands,scales,etc) as iam an avid lowrider die cast collector. You have the coolest collection by far on TH-cam!

  • @joshuasmith2364
    @joshuasmith2364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And I remember having a truck same as the dump truck but it had a metal tanker on it was real heavy.

  • @johnfoltz8183
    @johnfoltz8183 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Ford Escort is one of the hardest early 80’s castings to find.

  • @g4340
    @g4340 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! That Jaguar XJS is cool --I didn't know that version existed because I have the same car but mine is dark blue in color.

  • @justindoyle5540
    @justindoyle5540 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ty man....my 4 year old son T.J. luvs your videos!

  • @ericmcginnis2097
    @ericmcginnis2097 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 4×4 set packaging set u showed. Was a cool way to keep track. Pretty awesome bud

  • @TooHonest4_You
    @TooHonest4_You 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro I love your collection especially the trucks

  • @riccardoprosperi5454
    @riccardoprosperi5454 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have you ever heard of a red T-Totaller with a gold Malaysia base? I know the Hong Kong one is quite common, but I can't find this variation documented anywhere so I wonder if I stumbled on something rare or if it is just a common variation for the European market (I bought this one from an Italian seller and I've already seen another one listed in Germany).

    • @wtffor
      @wtffor  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That T-Totaller was released in 1980 part of the mainline. It is not overly valuable, but a nice piece none-the-less.

  • @Wrguitar941
    @Wrguitar941 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol on walking backwards my friend 😱allways get a chuckle.... have you gotten that chevy red truck with cool tampos? Very cool

  • @cesarrodriguezbk1
    @cesarrodriguezbk1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video thank you for sharing

  • @502Imcomingthrough
    @502Imcomingthrough 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wish i hadn't watched this, now i really miss my real riders gold corvette with white hubs, they were fairly common here in Australia

    • @wtffor
      @wtffor  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can always buy a grey hub version for relatively inexpensive on ebay, and paint the rims white for nostalgia purposes!

  • @markthomason7175
    @markthomason7175 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was a HUGE collector of these as a kid...fortunately my mother never threw them away and i still have several thousand that i have displayed and continue to enjoy. As far as price and rarity i have learned alot watching your videos. I have a 1983 white wheel real riders VW that you didnt mention on this video and i havnt seen anywhere else....could you help me determine maybe the value and if its as rare as im thinking? Thanks!

    • @wtffor
      @wtffor  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That one comes out in 1984 I believe... I will mention it then and pricing. Congrats on keeping your big beautiful collection of cars all these years - good feeling for sure!

  • @tylerevans1623
    @tylerevans1623 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should do a greenlight collection video

  • @joshuasmith2364
    @joshuasmith2364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss my old pete and my favorite as a 8 year old kid the blue Chevy I put alot of mile on that thing for a long time most dependable one I can remember

  • @ronaldopereira1869
    @ronaldopereira1869 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vídeo! I love Hotwheels decade 80.

  • @OctasLP
    @OctasLP 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    impresiv collection . The red Renault is Renault R5

  • @kevinrichards3288
    @kevinrichards3288 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That yellow cabover semi is a Kenworth by the shape of the grille because the tops of the grilles on the Kenworths weren't straight like the ones on Freightliners, Peterbilts, & other makes were.