Many good points here. The day of the belt driven fan is mostly gone now, replaced by electric fans. The driving force is a slight improvement in fuel economy, though there is a price to pay for extra electronics.
I bought the 370a elite about 6 months ago, working great in my 06 Silverado, I run about 5.5k rms sound system, adding a 2nd battery trey would help u out a ton too, I've got two big agms under my hood.. ces makes great alts to and there a little cheaper.. adding 1/0 wire will also open up its full potential, I suggest using tinned 1/0 ofc copper and tinned copper lugs with adhesive lined heat shrink covering all exposed copper.. and when u use the hammer crimp put the crimp on the back of the lug, the crimper crimps it into a triangular shape, the way u did it will work but it smashes the wires..
Interesting that the voltage on the gauge matches my 93 C2500 Suburban (7.4) exactly, but I'm still running the stock 105A alternator and a mechanical fan. It shows over 14V when cold, but gradually drops under 14V once warm and when everything is going. You're right that the gauge on the dash is likely worthless. I use a USB adapter in the cigarette lighter that shows voltage, and it shows 14.2V at cold start and 13.6-13.8V once warm depending on how much stuff I have on. I've validated it against a voltmeter hooked to the battery terminals, and it's a very accurate gauge. Overall, I think I'll stick to the mech fan. I upgraded the 5 blade to a 9 blade from a late 90s 454, and that seemed to really give me all the extra cooling power I needed.
Those voltage readings are pretty normal. Voltage regulator in most stock type alternators are overly protective of overcharging the battery. Usually isn't a problem. However, if you run down the battery more than a little it can take hours of driving (not idling) to bring the battery all the way back to full charge. Takes some time at 14.5v or a little more to get to 100%. Even longer if 12.6-14. As long as its above 12.6 the battery charges just not very fast. Alternator has to replace all those "missing" amps and the output at low rpm is small. The factory voltage gauge is good enough but it doesn't tell the whole story. Each of those lines is 7/10ths of a volt. Turn the key to on without starting and see what it indicates. Then check the battery with a handheld volt meter. Gauge will be close enough in my experience. The stock alternators just aren't great. A good charger/desulfator hooked up to the battery occasionally is a good idea. So is frequent highway driving.
i needed me a channel for everything i swapped on my 95k1500 front sas swap from 85k10, trans swap, tcase swap, rear axle swap for 14 bolt. man wish ida been as smart as this guy to post it all up
Dude, I've literally been waiting years to see you replace that crap power master alternator. I watched you do all those grounds. So satisfying to see you get the right parts finally!
Haha, I wouldn't call the PowerMaster crap. Some of the blame is upon me for ordering an underpowered unit (though it didn't do anywhere near what they rated it at idle...) Just very happy I finally don't have to worry about voltage at a stop light in the summer.
@@1RoadGarage You are right, the power master was just insufficient. Very nice to see you install the mechman. Now you can put a nice sound system in the suburban with no problem at all! You have plenty of amps to play with, let's see you throw 1000 watts at a single 15 inch subwoofer in a ported box. Plenty of room back there too! That would make an awesome set of videos. If you need advice on cost effective, quality equipment, let me know and I'll show you the way. I currently have a 300 amp alternator, 2x group 31 AGM batteries, 1 Orion XTR 750.4 ($139) on the mids and highs, 1 Orion XTR 2500.1($349) on the subwoofers which are two 12" American Bass XFL's in a ported box. The system sounds amazing, and it was cheap. I'd say $1000 for all my equipment.
Jimmy, as one of your biggest critics I have to say this was an excellent video, you went about diagnosing and servicing methodically and logically using measurement tools to find the issue and work through it rather than just tossing money at it. Great video my man.
I installed #282 fans in my Silverado. Also, a 170 amp alt from someone here on TH-cam (Alternator Man) It was a drop in application. No adjustments. Easy deal. I adjusted my fans to come on AFTER my thermostat opens. So, they are not running all the time. Only when needed I’ve had nary a problem Zip, zero, etc
@Aaron Wilson Flexalite 282 fits the 99-04 GM trucks and SUVs with a 34" radiator only 4.8-6.0 V8. So most 1500s. 2500 and above, or the 8.1 V8 may not apply for this fan. That alternator you have to look that up above.
Would highly recommend a northstar battery too, excellent American made agm car batteries that alot of sound system guys use too because you can draw so much on them without draining them.
Agree 100%. The Northstar will also do better with the higher charging voltage. I run over 3,000 watts RMS from a couple of Orion XTR amplifiers, and I use 2 Northstar AGM batteries and a 300 amp alternator. Voltage stays at 14 volts and I've never had a problem with the voltage, amperage, or charging system
I was just about to buy everything in a couple days to do the same thing, glad you did a update on what was happening and what size alternator you went with so I can do the same to my 2004 suburban, because I live in AZ and I really need this upgrade now with the summer already here.
Mechman alternators also sell an adjustable voltage regulator you can adjust right in the cabin. I'd say 250 amps is more than enough for any regular application, unless you run a big stereo system or something.
electrical fans work fine on the factory NNBS and NNNBS they have beefy 150 -185amp MY factory High Voltage to 12V+ DC is 185amps or 2.3KW ( FULL OUTPUT AVAILABLE anytime) Tahoe Hybrid NNBS.. if you want to talk about alternator my is 120KW 3 Phase 330vAC Now thats an alternator ( more like the generator and starter LOL!) I can power small neighborhood with that
I have a stock 230 amp alt with 4 batteries in parallel and solar panels for 2.5 amp charge running 4 amps and a 1kw inverter. My headlights don't even flicker
I have run Mechman Alternators in 4 different vehicles. All perform perfectly - and most importantly - they are RELIABLE. I live in Phoenix at 115 degrees in the shade. Imagine the underhood temp. And these things still put out what they are RATED for. GREAT ALTERNATOR.
@Chris hey man I live in avondale and just purchased one for my 03 suburban that I just upgraded to e fans . do you know where I can get it installed and upgrade my wiring?? please let me know
@@jmunoz1414 Any auto shop can install an alternator including the Mechmans. The only problem is getting the larger gauge wiring done - most shops don't have 4 Gauge or larger wire available (I always use 1/0 Gauge) - Audio places (Audio Express, etc.) can do it and have that large gauge stuff always in stock.
Now that you have a more than capable charging system, you should take advantage and put a nice amp to that Infinity component set. Heck I'd dedicate a good sound quality 4 channel amp to the components and a subwoofer with an amp for it too. 🤷♂️ Oh the possibilities...🤔
Some great ideas here. I have a 92 Dodge diesel that needs some help getting air to the AC condenser in the summer. I've looked into electric clutches, electric fans to replace the belt drive fan, and pusher fans. Im leaning more toward pusher fans for redundancy. If they fail ill still have the factory fan and if it fails ill have the pusher fans.
Mechman makes an amazing product and those guys are awesome to deal with. Pricey, but worth it. There’s a reason why guys that have serious competition electronics of all kinds trust mechman.
Thanks for the excellent video! You inspired me to upgrade the charging system on the 95 gmc2500 suburban which I just got and was converted to dual electric fans by the previous owner
You keep the voltage up. Higher voltage equals less current draw. The old alternator probably sat around 13.8 hot. This new one keeps the voltage up near 14.5 hot and has 100+ more amps available at all times. He won't melt fuses anymore.
@@catch22frubert : That makes less than 2 amp difference at 25 amps though. Less than 10% difference. www.rapidtables.com/calc/electric/watt-volt-amp-calculator.html
...the gains from electric fans are only really realized at highway speeds, where the forced air thru the grill should be sufficient to turn the fans off if they are properly setup. At city speeds, idle, traffic, etc the fans are there to prevent a overheating situation. Sadly most that set up e-fans do not have them thermostatically controlled, thus they are drawing power all the time, same as a clutch type fan, even when it is not needed.
My 11yo daughter like to work on my '94 suburban with me. She likes shiny new parts as well. She painted the transmission we swapped in last year in midnight-sparkle blue.
Wonder how this alternator would work for my cabin in the mountains that is off-grid as a power source from the stream that fast-moving on the property
If you’re converting a vehicle to electric fans upgrading your electrical system is a no-brainer. The best way to do this is by using an alternator from a similar vehicle that came equipped with e-fans and then upgrade both the charge wire and ground straps. A lot of HD alternators you can buy from the internet are junk (mechman makes good stuff). Adding high draw electrical accessories to a vehicle has to be accompanied by electrical system upgrades, otherwise you create headaches at best and a fire hazard at worst
The heating effect and hence energy loss is proportional to current squared; thus it was a shame that only 12V was chosen as the voltage in most cars. Car electrics would have 1/4 the losses at 24V and the wiring could be much thinner. 12V was chosen because it was convenient for the lead/acid batteries in use, now we have NiMH, and Li ion, there is no such restriction.
Oh yeah nice and shiny... That look of approval changes when she sees the $500+ charge in the CC... lol May want to look in to the 99+ charging setup... The alt is only triggered to charge for first 5-10 minutes on cold startup and then drop off when battery is full. With my 06 Silverado it is normal to see it drop off from 14+ to mid 12s (the gauge is a little off, actual measurement shows it tops out around 14.1 and then drops down to 13.2-13.5).
The extra wire that you hooked up to a “switched source”, did you mean a source that switches on when the vehicle is turned on? how did you attach that wire to your fuse box? Thanks for the great video!!! I’m gonna do this and the electric fans to my 96 Chevy G20!!!
105 amp altenator on a camaro with the huge factory electric fan. plus after market audio and amps... never had any voltage issues even at hot idle. your altenator may have been on its way out already
You make Great videos! How are you flexalite fans doing? Is the controller for it still working great? I really would like to know. I'm about to do my silverado. Thanks again for your video?👍
That 12v switched wire is to bypass the ecm controlled voltage sense wire. It provides full field voltage to the field windings at all times. You can do this with a stock alternator.
I did the same upgrade but the battery light doesnt stay on without this wire connected to a switched 12v, is it ok to run without the wire being connected?
Hey 1Road, can you please let us know if you do have a electric fan system on your 2003 Suburban? If you dont, would you upgrade to it? If you do, can you provide the specs of the alternator (amps ar idle, etc)?
Lead acid batteries live longer if kept close to a full charge. The amount of time spent below full charge is what degrades them. 12.6 volts or a little higher is what they like. If I see 13.19 I'm a very happy camper.
Great video as always! I intend to install that very alternator. I wanted to point out your oil pressure seemed really low...ie..definitely under 20 in video...I have a diesel (same year) and it runs about 40 at hot idle--slightly higher than 45 with ac on and maybe 50-55 cold start. I use 15-40 Rotella---but I've had GM gas engines same as yours and idle always seemed at least 30'sh. I had an 07 escalade at one point with AFM lifters that went bad at around 80k...clearly not the case with yours. Anyway thought I'd mention.
Congrats on your new install. Certainly it should provide enough juice for all your electrics and more. I'd next take care of the low oil pressure at hot idle your truck showed as you described the voltage on the gauge. 20 PSI and below? I don't know. I'd be more at peace with 40 PSI or higher. Maybe a high pressure/high volume oil pump could solve this potential problem in-the-making.
Also that bigger badder alternator is bleeding off way more kinetic energy off your engine. Id be interested to see a before and after on a dyno with the clutchfan and the new alternator.
Will it not blow you fuse sir Jimmy... Will it not cause fire to melt your electrical components? Whats the result does it work good in your car sir Jim. Pls advise joey yu Baguio City Phil's
Been struggling with my voltage too.. got a 160amp alternator still not working should've watch this video before spending money on that one .... buying this alternator includes the adaptor to the harness or do I have to request it?????
I want tot do this same e-fan upgrade to my 95 Tahoe. However, a $600 alternator is just too much $$. Is there an alternator that would work for $300 or less?? Thank you for your excellent vids. Keep it up brother! :)
Sure. You can use the high output stock alternator. Might need a different belt or pulley. Go to a parts store that has staff that know what they're doing and you should be able to figure it out. Pretty sure 140amp alternator is an option for that truck.
i just install a mechman alternator to my 2003 chevy trailblazer. the reason is because i have a flex a lite fan and a amplifier. i have never experience fuse burning or melting for my fan like you. but i did experience voltage drop. ever since i put the mechman alternator my voltage stays in the middle and it doesn't drop like it used to. i also did the big 3 upgrade when i install the alternator.
Years ago I bought an aftermarket ignition system that used a 15 amp fuse. I ended up having to buy a high(er) output alternator to make my ignition system work the right way. It was worth it, though.
Either the sensor or the reluctor are very dirty, or one of the sensors are done. The next generation GM trucks have a similar problem. But the abs sensor is inside the wheel hub. Easy to replace, but not cheap to purchase. And I mean both abs sensor and wheel hub.
@@GamerzArena12 It can; as in you stomp on the brake pedal, and they will lock up. And that's what you don't want. The purpose for the ABS system is that you slow down, but you can steer away from a obstacle in front of you. As long as you have room to move to either lane next to you. In other words, ABS won't shortened your braking distance, but it helps you maneuver yourself from slamming into the car in front of you.
Great thorough work, Jimmy! Idk if I'll ever attempt this electric fan setup, I think I'll stick to the caveman ways of the stock fan lol Have you considered adding a deep transmission pan and possibly a larger transmission cooler to the 95? Might make for a fun short series
Another great video!! Contemplating swapping to electric fans on my '07 Suburban 1500 but didn't know there would be so much involved!!! Thanks a million for sharing your experience w. us. Now that I know it's gonna cost an arm & leg I'm still willing to do it but only now, Xtra expenses won't be a surprise and that will take the trial & error away a little bit. I also plan to add a 2nd battery as I will use the truck as an off-road explorer and small camper as well. That alternator will definitely worth the upgrade. ALSO: how is that 12V switch pwr connected in the fuse box? Thanks again!
I have a 2008 Silverado 5.3 crew cab lt all electric. And i have the same problem when i turn the ac to the max and the truck is in a stop light the truck begin to fail making a idle and the revolutions goes down and up. But when i set the ac fan to the minimun the truck get stable again.
So if I am driving with both my high and low beams (yes I can), both my blowers, my radio blasting, honking my horn, hitting my brakes with my trailer, and domelight on, and dual electric fans at 70 amps, I will be good to go?
Is there out a Cadillac alternator compatible with this trucks? I know those alternators produce to much amps, and maybe being both sons of the same father could be possible...
@@1RoadGarage I was able to find the site fairly easy, it might just be a cool thing to do. They are a tad pricier than some other comparable options out there and the fact that some of them require a new belt is a turn off for me personally.
I wonder how long it will take to get a replacement when it fails?? Do you have to ship the original one in for repairs or can you just order another one and then ship the old one back? What is the warranty on that anyway?
@@globalmobile017 Installed correctly here, it should last a very long time without issue. If you did have an issue with a bad alt, Mechman would take care of you for sure. He/they have been in business for quite a while and have a great rep in the car audio community.
@@ariyanadumon4549 , The smaller belt does suck but it's the only way to get the higher amperage out of those alternators. They simply install a smaller pulley which makes the alternator spin faster.
Attention: when Voltage drops so does current. You said the voltage with the old alternator DROPPED and the current went up and fuses started popping. Use ohms law and figure it out. If voltage drops current drops as well, and the fuses cant "start blowing" !
ohms law amps = voltage esistance. If the load pulls 10 amps at 14 volts and resistance is constant. When volts drop because you overloaded your alt system voltage drops lower than batt voltage. The load now pulls more amps from the battery than 10 amps. Fuses pop. Less volts more amps.
Many thanks for good explanation you are very professional and I am happy to follow your recommendation well done and keep sending more video's Best Regards Saad from Saudi Arabia
You need a smaller pulley on your alternator. *idle rpm* Size of crank pulley divided by alternator pulley gives your ratio. Basic calculation will tell you your *idle alternator rpm* then you can look up you alternator rpm specifications and see what the output is at that rpm... ratio 3:1 = engine rpm 800 * 3:1 = 2,400 rpm at the alternator.
Hole you go back and install marine grade heat shrink tubing on ALL of the crimp connectors. This will prevent moisture and other contaminants from getting into the wire/connector and causing corrosion over time.
Well, with that sort of output... you could throw an inverter in there and run appliances... but why the brake light? I'm sorry if I'm being picky... dont mean to be... just wondering...
hello watched this my gauge is doing the same thing I am putting out 13.8 volts and 65 amps at idle with air running with volt meter also going down should I just go with the larger alternator? asking for information
What did the weak alternator do to your hot idle RPM? mine is low. It sits at 500 and at times 300. Not erratic. But it drops also when loaded, for example when fans come on, turning the steering wheel especially...throttle body is clean.
Great choice of alternator! Mechman is the best!! It's all i run. Good video.
omg Meade916 is in the house, i've been trying to call numerous times, need ya help!
Many good points here. The day of the belt driven fan is mostly gone now, replaced by electric fans. The driving force is a slight improvement in fuel economy, though there is a price to pay for extra electronics.
very little fuel economy ..but much more risk of cooling failure compared to solid belt driven fan blade
Holy crap still on the electrical system!!!
I bought the 370a elite about 6 months ago, working great in my 06 Silverado, I run about 5.5k rms sound system, adding a 2nd battery trey would help u out a ton too, I've got two big agms under my hood.. ces makes great alts to and there a little cheaper.. adding 1/0 wire will also open up its full potential, I suggest using tinned 1/0 ofc copper and tinned copper lugs with adhesive lined heat shrink covering all exposed copper.. and when u use the hammer crimp put the crimp on the back of the lug, the crimper crimps it into a triangular shape, the way u did it will work but it smashes the wires..
The smaller pulley on these help a lot, and these h/o alts a made to handle big loads and work great in warm conditions
Interesting that the voltage on the gauge matches my 93 C2500 Suburban (7.4) exactly, but I'm still running the stock 105A alternator and a mechanical fan. It shows over 14V when cold, but gradually drops under 14V once warm and when everything is going. You're right that the gauge on the dash is likely worthless. I use a USB adapter in the cigarette lighter that shows voltage, and it shows 14.2V at cold start and 13.6-13.8V once warm depending on how much stuff I have on. I've validated it against a voltmeter hooked to the battery terminals, and it's a very accurate gauge.
Overall, I think I'll stick to the mech fan. I upgraded the 5 blade to a 9 blade from a late 90s 454, and that seemed to really give me all the extra cooling power I needed.
Those voltage readings are pretty normal. Voltage regulator in most stock type alternators are overly protective of overcharging the battery. Usually isn't a problem. However, if you run down the battery more than a little it can take hours of driving (not idling) to bring the battery all the way back to full charge. Takes some time at 14.5v or a little more to get to 100%. Even longer if 12.6-14. As long as its above 12.6 the battery charges just not very fast. Alternator has to replace all those "missing" amps and the output at low rpm is small. The factory voltage gauge is good enough but it doesn't tell the whole story. Each of those lines is 7/10ths of a volt. Turn the key to on without starting and see what it indicates. Then check the battery with a handheld volt meter. Gauge will be close enough in my experience. The stock alternators just aren't great. A good charger/desulfator hooked up to the battery occasionally is a good idea. So is frequent highway driving.
i needed me a channel for everything i swapped on my 95k1500
front sas swap from 85k10, trans swap, tcase swap, rear axle swap for 14 bolt. man wish ida been as smart as this guy to post it all up
You should!! People love OBS trucks!!
Dude, I've literally been waiting years to see you replace that crap power master alternator. I watched you do all those grounds. So satisfying to see you get the right parts finally!
Haha, I wouldn't call the PowerMaster crap. Some of the blame is upon me for ordering an underpowered unit (though it didn't do anywhere near what they rated it at idle...) Just very happy I finally don't have to worry about voltage at a stop light in the summer.
@@1RoadGarage You are right, the power master was just insufficient. Very nice to see you install the mechman. Now you can put a nice sound system in the suburban with no problem at all! You have plenty of amps to play with, let's see you throw 1000 watts at a single 15 inch subwoofer in a ported box. Plenty of room back there too! That would make an awesome set of videos. If you need advice on cost effective, quality equipment, let me know and I'll show you the way. I currently have a 300 amp alternator, 2x group 31 AGM batteries, 1 Orion XTR 750.4 ($139) on the mids and highs, 1 Orion XTR 2500.1($349) on the subwoofers which are two 12" American Bass XFL's in a ported box. The system sounds amazing, and it was cheap. I'd say $1000 for all my equipment.
Jimmy, as one of your biggest critics I have to say this was an excellent video, you went about diagnosing and servicing methodically and logically using measurement tools to find the issue and work through it rather than just tossing money at it.
Great video my man.
I installed #282 fans in my Silverado.
Also, a 170 amp alt from someone here on TH-cam (Alternator Man)
It was a drop in application. No adjustments. Easy deal.
I adjusted my fans to come on AFTER my thermostat opens. So, they are not running all the time. Only when needed
I’ve had nary a problem
Zip, zero, etc
@Aaron Wilson Flexalite 282 fits the 99-04 GM trucks and SUVs with a 34" radiator only 4.8-6.0 V8. So most 1500s. 2500 and above, or the 8.1 V8 may not apply for this fan. That alternator you have to look that up above.
Many EXCELLENT points covered in your rwo videos. Thank you so much for this information.
Would highly recommend a northstar battery too, excellent American made agm car batteries that alot of sound system guys use too because you can draw so much on them without draining them.
Agree 100%. The Northstar will also do better with the higher charging voltage. I run over 3,000 watts RMS from a couple of Orion XTR amplifiers, and I use 2 Northstar AGM batteries and a 300 amp alternator. Voltage stays at 14 volts and I've never had a problem with the voltage, amperage, or charging system
I was just about to buy everything in a couple days to do the same thing, glad you did a update on what was happening and what size alternator you went with so I can do the same to my 2004 suburban, because I live in AZ and I really need this upgrade now with the summer already here.
Mechman alternators also sell an adjustable voltage regulator you can adjust right in the cabin. I'd say 250 amps is more than enough for any regular application, unless you run a big stereo system or something.
Great vid. So many people need to watch this
Mechman is one of the best! Being in the car audio world you made a great choice. Irraggi and CES are great options as well. Love the vids!
not sure if youve done a video on it but upgrading the flimsy factory grounds helps relieve a lot of stress on the system as well.
electrical fans work fine on the factory NNBS and NNNBS they have beefy 150 -185amp
MY factory High Voltage to 12V+ DC is 185amps or 2.3KW ( FULL OUTPUT AVAILABLE anytime) Tahoe Hybrid NNBS..
if you want to talk about alternator my is 120KW 3 Phase 330vAC
Now thats an alternator ( more like the generator and starter LOL!) I can power small neighborhood with that
Meanwhile people with Sound systems
*Quad 250 Amp Alternators*
They're basically have truck half mobile generator.
my SUV has a 60kw generator 330volts @ 185AMPS gotta power the motors
Some audio guys use 4 or 5 alternators with 370amps & the alternator alone will take most of the engine power when on full load.
I have a stock 230 amp alt with 4 batteries in parallel and solar panels for 2.5 amp charge running 4 amps and a 1kw inverter. My headlights don't even flicker
I have run Mechman Alternators in 4 different vehicles. All perform perfectly - and most importantly - they are RELIABLE. I live in Phoenix at 115 degrees in the shade. Imagine the underhood temp. And these things still put out what they are RATED for. GREAT ALTERNATOR.
@Chris hey man I live in avondale and just purchased one for my 03 suburban that I just upgraded to e fans . do you know where I can get it installed and upgrade my wiring?? please let me know
@@jmunoz1414 Any auto shop can install an alternator including the Mechmans. The only problem is getting the larger gauge wiring done - most shops don't have 4 Gauge or larger wire available (I always use 1/0 Gauge) - Audio places (Audio Express, etc.) can do it and have that large gauge stuff always in stock.
Now that you have a more than capable charging system, you should take advantage and put a nice amp to that Infinity component set. Heck I'd dedicate a good sound quality 4 channel amp to the components and a subwoofer with an amp for it too. 🤷♂️ Oh the possibilities...🤔
1/0 AWG OFC Wire would be the icing on that cake. Mechman FTW, I have one too.
Some great ideas here. I have a 92 Dodge diesel that needs some help getting air to the AC condenser in the summer. I've looked into electric clutches, electric fans to replace the belt drive fan, and pusher fans. Im leaning more toward pusher fans for redundancy. If they fail ill still have the factory fan and if it fails ill have the pusher fans.
Mechman makes an amazing product and those guys are awesome to deal with. Pricey, but worth it. There’s a reason why guys that have serious competition electronics of all kinds trust mechman.
How did u add the ground wire to the alternator casing
The mechman alternators come with a power and ground connection.
Thanks for the excellent video! You inspired me to upgrade the charging system on the 95 gmc2500 suburban which I just got and was converted to dual electric fans by the previous owner
You can get these alts colored for $25 too, which is a nice touch for being a little more expensive!
get an aftermarket voltmeter when your working with an high output alternator you can keep a better eye on your voltage
Same alternator I got for to help charge the camper battery. Does a great job
So what are you gonna try next when your fuses blow/melt?
Fuses blow because they're using too much amperage, so you just supply more amps?
You keep the voltage up. Higher voltage equals less current draw. The old alternator probably sat around 13.8 hot. This new one keeps the voltage up near 14.5 hot and has 100+ more amps available at all times. He won't melt fuses anymore.
@@catch22frubert : That makes less than 2 amp difference at 25 amps though. Less than 10% difference.
www.rapidtables.com/calc/electric/watt-volt-amp-calculator.html
Where exactly did you connect the blue wire to into the fuse box? Would really help me out right now !! Pls
Wonder if you lost enough power to defeat the purpose of using the fans to save power
...the gains from electric fans are only really realized at highway speeds, where the forced air thru the grill should be sufficient to turn the fans off if they are properly setup. At city speeds, idle, traffic, etc the fans are there to prevent a overheating situation.
Sadly most that set up e-fans do not have them thermostatically controlled, thus they are drawing power all the time, same as a clutch type fan, even when it is not needed.
Jimmy do you still have the truck, and if so what's your thoughts on it now? I'm planning do this conversion
Fantastic choice on the alternator. I wouldn’t use any other brand but Mechman.
My 11yo daughter like to work on my '94 suburban with me. She likes shiny new parts as well. She painted the transmission we swapped in last year in midnight-sparkle blue.
Wonder how this alternator would work for my cabin in the mountains that is off-grid as a power source from the stream that fast-moving on the property
If you’re converting a vehicle to electric fans upgrading your electrical system is a no-brainer. The best way to do this is by using an alternator from a similar vehicle that came equipped with e-fans and then upgrade both the charge wire and ground straps. A lot of HD alternators you can buy from the internet are junk (mechman makes good stuff). Adding high draw electrical accessories to a vehicle has to be accompanied by electrical system upgrades, otherwise you create headaches at best and a fire hazard at worst
Great you got a mechman alternator
Im a little skeptical about your last alternator
Hey Jimmy what 12 volt switched source did you tap into in your fuse panel
The heating effect and hence energy loss is proportional to current squared; thus it was a shame that only 12V was chosen as the voltage in most cars. Car electrics would have 1/4 the losses at 24V and the wiring could be much thinner.
12V was chosen because it was convenient for the lead/acid batteries in use, now we have NiMH, and Li ion, there is no such restriction.
Oh yeah nice and shiny... That look of approval changes when she sees the $500+ charge in the CC... lol
May want to look in to the 99+ charging setup... The alt is only triggered to charge for first 5-10 minutes on cold startup and then drop off when battery is full. With my 06 Silverado it is normal to see it drop off from 14+ to mid 12s (the gauge is a little off, actual measurement shows it tops out around 14.1 and then drops down to 13.2-13.5).
The extra wire that you hooked up to a “switched source”, did you mean a source that switches on when the vehicle is turned on? how did you attach that wire to your fuse box? Thanks for the great video!!! I’m gonna do this and the electric fans to my 96 Chevy G20!!!
105 amp altenator on a camaro with the huge factory electric fan. plus after market audio and amps... never had any voltage issues even at hot idle. your altenator may have been on its way out already
What was the issue of the connector being 3d printed?
You make Great videos! How are you flexalite fans doing? Is the controller for it still working great? I really would like to know. I'm about to do my silverado. Thanks again for your video?👍
Does the battery play issues with the alternator vs cable size vs battery size.?
Does the voltage drop when the fans first turn on?
Have you broiled out your radiator to have it at maximum performance.
Is this a upgrade to the 140A PowerMaster alternator?
That 12v switched wire is to bypass the ecm controlled voltage sense wire. It provides full field voltage to the field windings at all times. You can do this with a stock alternator.
I did the same upgrade but the battery light doesnt stay on without this wire connected to a switched 12v, is it ok to run without the wire being connected?
So where to I connect the blue wire
Hey 1Road, can you please let us know if you do have a electric fan system on your 2003 Suburban? If you dont, would you upgrade to it? If you do, can you provide the specs of the alternator (amps ar idle, etc)?
Nice powerful alt! Thanks Jimmy.
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Did you have to replace the serpentine belt? I’m in the same boat running a 2k sound system on a 91 Chevy
Good idea. But does it decrease the battery life or not ? I hope you could give the accurate answer.
Lead acid batteries live longer if kept close to a full charge. The amount of time spent below full charge is what degrades them. 12.6 volts or a little higher is what they like. If I see 13.19 I'm a very happy camper.
Great video as always! I intend to install that very alternator. I wanted to point out your oil pressure seemed really low...ie..definitely under 20 in video...I have a diesel (same year) and it runs about 40 at hot idle--slightly higher than 45 with ac on and maybe 50-55 cold start. I use 15-40 Rotella---but I've had GM gas engines same as yours and idle always seemed at least 30'sh. I had an 07 escalade at one point with AFM lifters that went bad at around 80k...clearly not the case with yours. Anyway thought I'd mention.
Congrats on your new install. Certainly it should provide enough juice for all your electrics and more. I'd next take care of the low oil pressure at hot idle your truck showed as you described the voltage on the gauge. 20 PSI and below? I don't know. I'd be more at peace with 40 PSI or higher. Maybe a high pressure/high volume oil pump could solve this potential problem in-the-making.
It’s a gear driven oil pump, which is why at idle it shows low oil pressure.
Also that bigger badder alternator is bleeding off way more kinetic energy off your engine. Id be interested to see a before and after on a dyno with the clutchfan and the new alternator.
Did you think about changing the pulley
Will this work on my 1990 silverado k1500 5.7 ?
Nice video electricity is not my thing and you make me understand clearly so ty and keep it up
Will it not blow you fuse sir Jimmy... Will it not cause fire to melt your electrical components? Whats the result does it work good in your car sir Jim. Pls advise joey yu Baguio City Phil's
Been struggling with my voltage too.. got a 160amp alternator still not working should've watch this video before spending money on that one .... buying this alternator includes the adaptor to the harness or do I have to request it?????
I want tot do this same e-fan upgrade to my 95 Tahoe. However, a $600 alternator is just too much $$. Is there an alternator that would work for $300 or less?? Thank you for your excellent vids. Keep it up brother! :)
Sure. You can use the high output stock alternator. Might need a different belt or pulley. Go to a parts store that has staff that know what they're doing and you should be able to figure it out. Pretty sure 140amp alternator is an option for that truck.
i just install a mechman alternator to my 2003 chevy trailblazer. the reason is because i have a flex a lite fan and a amplifier. i have never experience fuse burning or melting for my fan like you. but i did experience voltage drop. ever since i put the mechman alternator my voltage stays in the middle and it doesn't drop like it used to. i also did the big 3 upgrade when i install the alternator.
Check your A/C clutch gap? If not right, it could be drawing too much to keep the clutch engaged.
might have a point there, never thought of that!
Will this alternator work in my 2014 Ford Mustang V6 3.7?
you have a regular battery?
why would you fork out for a massive alternator and not change to 1/0ga or even 2/0ga wire..
Jimmy said he was running 2g wire
@@antoniofunnyguy Jimmy is using 2 gauge. Mechman tell you to use 1/0 gauge. I am running 2/0 gauge on my mechman 240 amp on my Chevy Tahoe.
Years ago I bought an aftermarket ignition system that used a 15 amp fuse. I ended up having to buy a high(er) output alternator to make my ignition system work the right way. It was worth it, though.
VERY NICE to know for my 93 gmc siera !! Thanks !!
Where did you tie in your harness for the ignition run wire? Got a mechman 370 amp going in a 1996 tahoe.
First thing I did to my 97 burb. After watching your flex a lite fan video. I knew I'd need more juice.
MECHMAN FTW
Great product Mechman
Thank you for this video ❤
Hey 1 road
Why your ABS light is always lighten up
Make a video on that
ABS troubleshooting is tricky, especially when you don't have the expensive equipment, and that is something you can't run to AutoZone and do.
Either the sensor or the reluctor are very dirty, or one of the sensors are done. The next generation GM trucks have a similar problem. But the abs sensor is inside the wheel hub. Easy to replace, but not cheap to purchase. And I mean both abs sensor and wheel hub.
James M thanks buddy for the information 💥
high life 1320 so does it affect your breaking performance and safety???
@@GamerzArena12 It can; as in you stomp on the brake pedal, and they will lock up. And that's what you don't want. The purpose for the ABS system is that you slow down, but you can steer away from a obstacle in front of you. As long as you have room to move to either lane next to you. In other words, ABS won't shortened your braking distance, but it helps you maneuver yourself from slamming into the car in front of you.
I found that like on big trucks always use the cast brass ends on the positive cable. Flags have too much resistance for a full draw
hey jimmy where did get the alternator
Great thorough work, Jimmy! Idk if I'll ever attempt this electric fan setup, I think I'll stick to the caveman ways of the stock fan lol Have you considered adding a deep transmission pan and possibly a larger transmission cooler to the 95? Might make for a fun short series
I'm happy you solved the problem,
????? i need to do this for my truck does any no were i can get everything for cheap and effective snug fit ????? 34inch rad
Another great video!! Contemplating swapping to electric fans on my '07 Suburban 1500 but didn't know there would be so much involved!!! Thanks a million for sharing your experience w. us. Now that I know it's gonna cost an arm & leg I'm still willing to do it but only now, Xtra expenses won't be a surprise and that will take the trial & error away a little bit. I also plan to add a 2nd battery as I will use the truck as an off-road explorer and small camper as well. That alternator will definitely worth the upgrade. ALSO: how is that 12V switch pwr connected in the fuse box? Thanks again!
Yeah I just need to know how the 12v switch is installed
I have a 2008 Silverado 5.3 crew cab lt all electric. And i have the same problem when i turn the ac to the max and the truck is in a stop light the truck begin to fail making a idle and the revolutions goes down and up. But when i set the ac fan to the minimun the truck get stable again.
What size belt do you have ?? Can you pleae reply asap im doing the same alternator but the belt is a pain in the ass to get!! Pls respond!!!
So if I am driving with both my high and low beams (yes I can), both my blowers, my radio blasting, honking my horn, hitting my brakes with my trailer, and domelight on, and dual electric fans at 70 amps, I will be good to go?
Upgrade all your grounds they’re horrible in these trucks the blue rope ones trust me you’ll see a difference 👍
I have the same prob . What i found Chev shuts down the alt at idle . This 8s done in the pcm .
Is there out a Cadillac alternator compatible with this trucks? I know those alternators produce to much amps, and maybe being both sons of the same father could be possible...
You should have linked the alternator my man.
I may still do it...
@@1RoadGarage I was able to find the site fairly easy, it might just be a cool thing to do. They are a tad pricier than some other comparable options out there and the fact that some of them require a new belt is a turn off for me personally.
I wonder how long it will take to get a replacement when it fails?? Do you have to ship the original one in for repairs or can you just order another one and then ship the old one back? What is the warranty on that anyway?
@@globalmobile017 Installed correctly here, it should last a very long time without issue. If you did have an issue with a bad alt, Mechman would take care of you for sure. He/they have been in business for quite a while and have a great rep in the car audio community.
@@ariyanadumon4549 , The smaller belt does suck but it's the only way to get the higher amperage out of those alternators. They simply install a smaller pulley which makes the alternator spin faster.
Attention: when Voltage drops so does current. You said the voltage with the old alternator DROPPED and the current went up and fuses started popping. Use ohms law and figure it out. If voltage drops current drops as well, and the fuses cant "start blowing" !
ohms law amps = voltage
esistance. If the load pulls 10 amps at 14 volts and resistance is constant. When volts drop because you overloaded your alt system voltage drops lower than batt voltage. The load now pulls more amps from the battery than 10 amps. Fuses pop. Less volts more amps.
Many thanks for good explanation you are very professional and I am happy to follow your recommendation well done and keep sending more video's
Best Regards
Saad from Saudi Arabia
to what fuse did you tie the blue wire too?
Hi, if charge battery more than 14.4V will it short life battery? Tq
Unlikely.
Where a get the alternator please I have the same problem
Upgrades are the answer! As an American, WE can make it better!
You need a smaller pulley on your alternator. *idle rpm* Size of crank pulley divided by alternator pulley gives your ratio. Basic calculation will tell you your *idle alternator rpm* then you can look up you alternator rpm specifications and see what the output is at that rpm... ratio 3:1 = engine rpm 800 * 3:1 = 2,400 rpm at the alternator.
Hole you go back and install marine grade heat shrink tubing on ALL of the crimp connectors. This will prevent moisture and other contaminants from getting into the wire/connector and causing corrosion over time.
Did you have issues with the battery not charging well before?
Does every high output alternator require u do all those changes and did u need a new drive belt
Well, with that sort of output... you could throw an inverter in there and run appliances... but why the brake light? I'm sorry if I'm being picky... dont mean to be... just wondering...
hello watched this my gauge is doing the same thing I am putting out 13.8 volts and 65 amps at idle with air running with volt meter also going down should I just go with the larger alternator? asking for information
Dears
I have same issue with my car , once to change altarator need also change the bttarey ?
How about the ground cables from your batt did you increase gauge ? Or just from alt to batt ?
What did the weak alternator do to your hot idle RPM? mine is low. It sits at 500 and at times 300. Not erratic.
But it drops also when loaded, for example when fans come on, turning the steering wheel especially...throttle body is clean.
I have a 250 amp alternator but it’s not from mechman , the company name is aan global” in California