It's just so sad these things are over $14000 out the door with all fees. It's getting out of touch for a lot of people. I noticed when these bikes hit the floor they aren't flying out door as fast as they used to. I've bought 3 KTM FE's over the years and just can't justify it anymore. They are very cool though.
If you bought the stock bike then bought all the parts they put on and had the motor work done they did for the SR, i saw some where that it would be around $16,000+ to build it up
@@leadhead7338 Im just talking about the price in general for dirt bikes. It's working mans sport and just the cost of living now makes it hard to justify. I make over $100,000 a year and it's getting hard to be excited about new bikes due to the cost. I'll keep my 21 KX450 for awhile and just keep it up.
@@woodman4989 I make 40k a year so yeah... I’ll keep my 98 CR and my 02 YZF… I have $3500 in my bike collection and they outrun most of these wannabe riders on their shiny new machines. The only cool thing I like about new bikes is that they are fuel injected. But that shouldn’t add thousands of dollars to the price imo.
What I heard is that Yamaha has an all new bike in 2023. Will they also join the other brands and add a works edition ? Would be really cool but no such rumors at this point.
Makes me so confused now was going to buy 23 ktm now with so many people liking the kx and being user friendly god dam ! It’s hard to pick need to ride them both im no racer just free riding hit jumps on track come off and ride trails don’t need the craziest power :/ I’ll keep thinking in my thinking chair and listening !
If you can, ask to ride a buddies. Keep in mind, the KTM is a brand new chassis with all-new technology, while it’s highly likely we will see an all-new 2023 Kawasaki in a few months.
1. Get what you like. All the bikes are good these days. These reviews come down to the very fine details. 2. If you want something for Just hitting jumps AND trail rides... Consider looking at the Cross Country Bike options these brands have; KTM XC/xcf, YZ x/xf, KX 250x or 450x, husky TX/FX Gas Gas EX, Honda RX, ranges of Bikes. They are designed to be capable on the MX track but good for the trails. A real 50/50 between an MX Bike and an Enduro Bike
Once again the Kawi wins, I think that’s 4 years in a row now, this bike will go down in history as one of the all time greats. I’m so proud to own one and they better not make to many changes for 23😬
@@jerrstubbs439 That would be cool, but he is not signed for next year. Word is a new YZF is coming out and he wants to ride it first before he signs. He may just retire if he wins the outdoors and go into the sunset as one of the best.
2000nds.......Bikes hit too hard, too much rigidity, too much bark and pulls like a tractor; de-tune make easier to ride and increase flex. 2022 i love the stiff rigid frame and thing pull like a tractor" winner full package". What a frickin sales pitch joke to sell bike brands over others every year. Kx winner hahaha...buddy has one, exhaust fell apart, blew the complete top end under 40 hours and he does his maint.
Here’s the problem with these shoot outs, you say you have a winner but do not consider the maintenance whatsoever. The Kawasaki is horrendously unreliable. I know several people who have purchased Kawasaki‘s over the last few years, every single one of them has had maintenance issues and been off the bike for as long as they could to save up to pay for the repairs. Yeah, if you’re wealthy or get parts and service for free, Kawasaki is your best bet.
you see the problems from kawi only come when something other than factory is replaced or switched in the motor other than that they are great stockers
Ive only ever seen 1 Kawi give issues and that was my friends 2011 KX 250F. I had a 2009 KX250 and new many Kawi owners. Only issues have come from POOR OWNER MAINTENANCE. No Issues from the bikes themselves. I since transitioned to Yamaha then KTM as I moved more into enduro. But all the guys i know who still race MX don't have issues with their Kawis. No bikes in general today are unreliable.
All these bikes are so damn fast I had a blast riding them all! Thanks again for having me out with the Swap Moto Live Crew
We all knew buttery would pick the GREEN ONE 🟢⚫️⚪️
Where was the Yamaha factory edition bike
@@Gabriel-kj4ie not a thing
@@silly-xd8uq 250 has a monster energy edition
@@Gabriel-kj4ie yes but it’s only a graphics change
It's just so sad these things are over $14000 out the door with all fees. It's getting out of touch for a lot of people. I noticed when these bikes hit the floor they aren't flying out door as fast as they used to. I've bought 3 KTM FE's over the years and just can't justify it anymore. They are very cool though.
I'm dropping a video in this soon.
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If you bought the stock bike then bought all the parts they put on and had the motor work done they did for the SR, i saw some where that it would be around $16,000+ to build it up
@@leadhead7338 Im just talking about the price in general for dirt bikes. It's working mans sport and just the cost of living now makes it hard to justify. I make over $100,000 a year and it's getting hard to be excited about new bikes due to the cost. I'll keep my 21 KX450 for awhile and just keep it up.
@@woodman4989 I make 40k a year so yeah... I’ll keep my 98 CR and my 02 YZF… I have $3500 in my bike collection and they outrun most of these wannabe riders on their shiny new machines. The only cool thing I like about new bikes is that they are fuel injected. But that shouldn’t add thousands of dollars to the price imo.
It's about time Kawasaki got rid of those couplers and put the mapping selection on the handlebars like every other bike.
Couldn't agree more. I'm a Green rider and that's annoying. Finally estart and hydraulic clutch, please upgrade those couplers!!
They still use the couplers
Spy photos of the 2023 are looking like that's just the case
Yes FOR SURE!
suzuki has couplers to xD
Great video, incredible bikes, Where’s the YZ450 Monster Energy edition?
Buttery with the GREEN ONE!
Great shootout, was cool seeing Buttery!
Buttery! 💪🏽
Got the Rockstar Husky TE300i this year. Love it more every time I ride it.
They are all so badass!
I love my sr couldn’t be happier all around good bike
TEAM GREEN!!!
Kawi!!! Let’s go!! 🤘🤘
I’m wondering if a 5mm hole in the Hondas top engine mounts and a set of KYB kit suspension would put it on top 🤷🏼♂️
What would putting a hole in the engine mounts do to the bike?
@@brokeandstoked8925 frame flex and compliancy, check out that HRC does, also companies like FCP and Works Chassis Labs
whats with monster yamaha and rm army edition
The kawi is sick!
Ross what is the name of that Fox kit you have on in the shoot out , thanks 😊 🙏 Great video, keep them coming 👍
Fox 😂🤣🤙 just playing dude. 🤙
Where’s the monster energy Yamaha at?
that mustache tho wtf lol
He picked the GREEN one!
Ill need to see one of the new KTM engines hit 400-500 hours before i give up my 21.5
Works edition is the best 🔥👌🏽
Kawasaki best bike ever since the begging of times
what happen to Yamaha and the monster edition?
Yamaha have no special edition work bike,,, just graphic,,and graphic is not a modification for up the power!!
The question is, are any of these factory editions better than a stock YZF?…
lol
Delusional
Nope they aren't.
You have some awesome tracks there to play on here where l live there is nothing much to ride on it's just trees every where...
Buttery flying.... Fraggle Rock is coming back
Is there a tuner app for the gasgas 450 factory edition?
love the bikes but way beyond what I can afford.
Suzuki RM left the chat
That KTM 😍
Any word on when Yamaha will step up with a works bike?
What I heard is that Yamaha has an all new bike in 2023. Will they also join the other brands and add a works edition ? Would be really cool but no such rumors at this point.
@@bagargui thank you for the update. I appreciate it.
I bet my man Buttery jumped on that works Honda first!!
Looks like Kawi is paying for some ad space huh?
All cool, but I'll bet if you add $3k to the new '23 Yam450 it'll spank them all.
Here come the young haiden fans saying yamaha is best because he signed to star
Right
Where’s my rmz?:(
Makes me so confused now was going to buy 23 ktm now with so many people liking the kx and being user friendly god dam ! It’s hard to pick need to ride them both im no racer just free riding hit jumps on track come off and ride trails don’t need the craziest power :/ I’ll keep thinking in my thinking chair and listening !
If you can, ask to ride a buddies. Keep in mind, the KTM is a brand new chassis with all-new technology, while it’s highly likely we will see an all-new 2023 Kawasaki in a few months.
1. Get what you like. All the bikes are good these days. These reviews come down to the very fine details.
2. If you want something for Just hitting jumps AND trail rides... Consider looking at the Cross Country Bike options these brands have; KTM XC/xcf, YZ x/xf, KX 250x or 450x, husky TX/FX Gas Gas EX, Honda RX, ranges of Bikes.
They are designed to be capable on the MX track but good for the trails. A real 50/50 between an MX Bike and an Enduro Bike
Should have added a 2016-17 factory edition KTM except it would have made these bikes look like a waste of dough.
What about Yamaha monster energy edition
I have the bike. While I love it, it’s nothing more than graphics on a yz450. I would have got the regular one, but couldn’t find one in stock lol
No Yamaha?
Need Sketch & the Scrubster for comprehensive review
i want that big ktm😂
And Yamaha just needs stickers
Sensacional 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 🇧🇷👍
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Suzuki best edition imo
Where's the Ya Mama Ha?????lol
Yamaha doesn’t make a factory edition bike
@@Zackrey507mx does Ya Mama Ha??? Lol
@@timjohnson8725 can’t put a price on my momma ha 😂
@@Zackrey507mx heard that..
Once again the Kawi wins, I think that’s 4 years in a row now, this bike will go down in history as one of the all time greats.
I’m so proud to own one and they better not make to many changes for 23😬
Word on the street is a redesign for 23
It's an all new bike for 23
Throw $4k at a YZ450.
No scrub daddy?
Monster energy yamaha????
Where da yz at
Kawasaki 450 sr just under $16000 out the door
Apparently the yz 450 is too ghetto for the comparison because it doesn’t come with fancy stickers .
Yamaha monster edition doesn't have any parts upgrades from stock just graphics
They should do a Eli Edition 💯💯
the problem is the yamaha "factory" edition only comes with fancy stickers hence why they didn't onclude it
@@jerrstubbs439 That would be cool, but he is not signed for next year. Word is a new YZF is coming out and he wants to ride it first before he signs. He may just retire if he wins the outdoors and go into the sunset as one of the best.
Kawasaki's have the most horrific reliability records out of all the brands.
2000nds.......Bikes hit too hard, too much rigidity, too much bark and pulls like a tractor; de-tune make easier to ride and increase flex. 2022 i love the stiff rigid frame and thing pull like a tractor" winner full package". What a frickin sales pitch joke to sell bike brands over others every year. Kx winner hahaha...buddy has one, exhaust fell apart, blew the complete top end under 40 hours and he does his maint.
C'mon Buttery! Kawi isn't going to comp you a free bike.....nice try! 😬
They might now🧐😂😂
Here’s the problem with these shoot outs, you say you have a winner but do not consider the maintenance whatsoever. The Kawasaki is horrendously unreliable.
I know several people who have purchased Kawasaki‘s over the last few years, every single one of them has had maintenance issues and been off the bike for as long as they could to save up to pay for the repairs.
Yeah, if you’re wealthy or get parts and service for free, Kawasaki is your best bet.
My son and I have 100hrs each on a 21 250 and 450, sorry to burst your bubble, but not a single problem, hence why it’s 450 of the year for 4 years
2020 over 100 extremely hard hours on it. Nothing more than changing oil every 2 rides and air filter every ride
Battown, that was a cool story bro.
you see the problems from kawi only come when something other than factory is replaced or switched in the motor other than that they are great stockers
Ive only ever seen 1 Kawi give issues and that was my friends 2011 KX 250F. I had a 2009 KX250 and new many Kawi owners. Only issues have come from POOR OWNER MAINTENANCE. No Issues from the bikes themselves. I since transitioned to Yamaha then KTM as I moved more into enduro. But all the guys i know who still race MX don't have issues with their Kawis. No bikes in general today are unreliable.