German Heavy Fighters Are Overpowered & BROKEN

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  • Welcome back to the By Blood Alone dlc for Hearts of Iron 4, today i'll create German heavy fighters and show how overpowered and broken they are since the plane designer was launched.
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ความคิดเห็น • 219

  • @AlextheRambler
    @AlextheRambler  2 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    *Who's here for Nigel?*

  • @colef2222
    @colef2222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    Fun strategy, a recommendation for when you take over the Dutch would might be to puppet and then add resource rights to the Dutch East Indies when you conquer them. You get their full production of rubber, for free, without the usage of any convoys for six years

    • @playergasman37
      @playergasman37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I might have to give that one a go when I get home after work tonight

    • @nintendopro9666
      @nintendopro9666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking that too

    • @evill01
      @evill01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is what I've been doing, absolutely game breaking strategy and I love it, the UK stands no chance against you when you can build unlimited planes, even with expensive designs

    • @Toralen
      @Toralen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@evill01 Yes, that's super important, but if you do it right, the UK is dead in early 1940 so it's just prepping for barb

    • @Kaizeristaken
      @Kaizeristaken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always rush synthetic rubber production at this point, makes rubber very easy to get with the bonuses the early game construction provides and the focus adding onto that by increasing rubber production by 2

  • @user-fb9ql8bm2e
    @user-fb9ql8bm2e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    10:30 Rudolf Hess didn’t die- he flew to England, crashed, and got captured. He died in the late 1980s in prison

    • @Tom-2142
      @Tom-2142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He flew to Scotland.

  • @DerPyromat
    @DerPyromat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    16:34 "Oh it's too heavy... what if I add better engines? 'Looks at the stats: Weight: 39.0; Thrust: 40.0.' More than enough!" Technically correct

  • @jonidymeti5396
    @jonidymeti5396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nigel is such a gigachad, that even gigachad himself has said it.

  • @QueenAleenaFan
    @QueenAleenaFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nigel wasn't ready for the spotlight.

  • @tmadlegionsoul3255
    @tmadlegionsoul3255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should have taken resource rights for the rubber

  • @james2529
    @james2529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    24:46 made me laugh pretty hard

  • @abush325ix
    @abush325ix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nigel is adorable and he shares his name with my cat.

  • @Ruinous-
    @Ruinous- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nigel AND a Dad's Army joke! ... peak Hoi4 content

  • @SuperWolfman9
    @SuperWolfman9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aww I feel the UK is a better nation to play as for a Air-Force priority playthrough.
    Reap the Whirlwind indeed.

  • @KillroyWasHere86
    @KillroyWasHere86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's like all of London grabbed their broom stick and ran to Dover.

  • @adityajadhav3341
    @adityajadhav3341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your content Alex 😊

  • @fjskfkskfkdkd8790
    @fjskfkskfkdkd8790 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes

  • @Sith9890
    @Sith9890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    give Nigel a video!

  • @kylebean2193
    @kylebean2193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    HimmelsPanzer!

  • @crazywarriorscatfan9061
    @crazywarriorscatfan9061 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see

  • @coffee8866
    @coffee8866 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you believe Blood Alone DLC is so very unpopular.

  • @DNTT_GER
    @DNTT_GER 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First. .:) hehe

  • @ryanewlier185
    @ryanewlier185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Fun fact, 100 British divisions spawning in England are actually exiled French divisions when France is being capitulated and becomes an exiled government.

  • @Archphoenix1
    @Archphoenix1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Alex knows all about bombing,its like his iron man games, they are bombing all the time

  • @sombodythatyouusedtoknow9046
    @sombodythatyouusedtoknow9046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    You can’t have a paradox game without something being unnecessarily OP

    • @Tom-oj7si
      @Tom-oj7si 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's a paradox game *when you had to buy 20 EUR DLC for the OP thing

    • @KokenyRichard
      @KokenyRichard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Regular fighters are still better than heavys. Heavys are not the meta and you're better with IC doing light chassis aircraft.

    • @MagicButterz
      @MagicButterz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Tom-oj7si people actually buy these DLCs? Pirate only for me

    • @vendora8238
      @vendora8238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicButterz dont know how to pirate so yeah

    • @dijosto
      @dijosto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicButterz be a brother and give this person a link xd

  • @pengyamogus
    @pengyamogus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    alex is the most underrated youtuber. keep doing what your doing we'll all support you along the way!

  • @bobbacon1398
    @bobbacon1398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have no clue why, but I started clapping when Nigel was in the video. No idea why my subconscious decided that was the response required.

  • @avat4r484
    @avat4r484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just realized that I wasn't subscribed, while thinking I was this whole time. So now I am.

  • @154Kilroy
    @154Kilroy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just played a U.S. game. They have a 300% research bonus for heavy fighters, which I checked out. It does still work, and gives you the bonus for the medium airframe. Which is honestly way better now than it was before since you can get bombers and fighters out of it.

    • @154Kilroy
      @154Kilroy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The caveat to that being engine III's are dramatically better than engine II, so researching that becomes a priority. I don't like using 4 engines if possible. Or even 3.

  • @Tnbeta-er5gm
    @Tnbeta-er5gm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Try to play as Soviet Union but use only ww1 equipment

    • @moisheshekelberg7632
      @moisheshekelberg7632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      So a historical playthrough?

    • @maytriks4215
      @maytriks4215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moisheshekelberg7632 based comment. based username. based profile picture.

  • @horrigan495
    @horrigan495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When puppeting Dutch East Indy, you can add to demands Resource Rights, so you dont have to trade for stuff which you have conquered... just ayin..
    And if you check "Auto Upgrade" for tonks or aircraft or ships, it will automatically generate a new model once you reasearch something better for that thing you are building... for Free.. you do not have to rebuild planes every time you research airframe.. just check the box :)

  • @littlenightk
    @littlenightk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did some testing and normal fighters out trade the heavy fighters in terms of IC cost by a longshot, so no heavy fighters are not broken even though they nerfed agility it doesn't actually means that it no longers matter just have a lower impact. So the "META" for fighters is not heavy fighters not even close.

  • @cyriell
    @cyriell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The random 100 division Spawn happened to me today aswell went uk non alligned invaded canada and the exact same happened (which is a utter pain to deal with because of the 0 supply there)
    Also im really curious why that happens 🤔

    • @hashtagrex
      @hashtagrex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exiled divisions from other nations

    • @cyriell
      @cyriell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hashtagrex how can they receive exiled divisions if no one was capitulated yet (my friend was france) + shouldnt exiled division still show their own country flag?

    • @hashtagrex
      @hashtagrex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cyriell im not an expert ill be honest, but exiled divisions im pretty sure still have the nation's flag on map, but when selected have a lil flag icon next to the division name.
      With your situation, were the spawned divisions equipped or not? one other thing i can think of is that the ai had a bunch of troops in training that hadnt deployed yet, and they rushed the deployment. usually those troops are equipped however

  • @valentinotto88
    @valentinotto88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:55 you do know that the other CAS module gives more ground support attack? why not choose that instead?

  • @hellodarkness9047
    @hellodarkness9047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sweet nigel

  • @tfree215
    @tfree215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm torn on the heavy fighters. I did a play through with cheap light fighters and only put 2 guns on them with the best engine with nothing else and massed produced those and it was kindve the same effect. I did however run into manpower issuess.

    • @Alba_Longa
      @Alba_Longa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think it's more of a "AI don't know how to make plane" rather than heavy fighter being OP. Anything properly designed by player will always be better than AI designed garbage.

  • @nightmareeyes9419
    @nightmareeyes9419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Speed is too low , thing won’t be able to hunt any bombers (if constructor of bombers habe Brain cells) and Fighters … meh

  • @rhokor4985
    @rhokor4985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I'm so excited for Vicky 3! can't wait to see what you & all the other content creators start your first games as!

  • @dnomyeR985
    @dnomyeR985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sadly German reich in BBA are so bad in air all of their logistics are getting bomb to dust and have 0 trains because they lost in the air battle against UK

  • @Tom-oj7si
    @Tom-oj7si 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heavy fighters really went from worthless to CAS 2.0

  • @comradelycomrade428
    @comradelycomrade428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good day

  • @shauryashah6197
    @shauryashah6197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Disrupting 6000 Fighters in Poland
    Me:- Ha! Take that Pol- wait what

  • @infini_ryu9461
    @infini_ryu9461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Normal Fighters are still better, though. 🤷🏻‍♂

  • @ThatZenoGuy
    @ThatZenoGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heavy fighters win 1v1, but their production cost means they will never actually win in a war of attrition.

    • @AlextheRambler
      @AlextheRambler  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except I also showed my losses. I was downing 400 of their planes to 5-10 of mine. Very easy to win an attrition war when I barely lose any planes.

    • @ThatZenoGuy
      @ThatZenoGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlextheRambler
      Against AI planes yes, but ANYTHING works against AI planes.
      Single engine minmaxxed fighters beats larger ones.

    • @johncalabro8710
      @johncalabro8710 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It also means only a major nation can

  • @Kaizeristaken
    @Kaizeristaken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should’ve put Goering into power for this playthrough, would’ve been fitting to have heavy planes and the heavy Air Force leader himself

  • @davidbascom5781
    @davidbascom5781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whyyyy did you not get resource rights from the east indies

  • @XSpamDragonX
    @XSpamDragonX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are there no agility penalties for having more engines? Why can you even have a four engine fighter?

  • @joelhicks5468
    @joelhicks5468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nigel is such an adorable boi

  • @CaiVanDoorn
    @CaiVanDoorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Almost none of the big HOI4 ytbrs do a US invasion from Europe's mainland! Would love to see one !!

  • @dancsati23able
    @dancsati23able 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hy Alex :)
    What new focus three you like?
    Italy,Ethiopia or Switzerland? :)
    A guy from HUNGARY :)

    • @mrr9636
      @mrr9636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or Aussa?

  • @II.Justinian
    @II.Justinian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would prefer you to mastermind genius player for watchj.

  • @AyaanGaming2211
    @AyaanGaming2211 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alex, when you early war the dutch you can take their mainland and satellite the islands in caribbean for oil. You can also add resource rights on the east indies and the islands for free rubber and oil

  • @Bardon222
    @Bardon222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should’ve demanded resource rights from the east indies, you wouldn’t need to trade for them at all and it wouldn’t increase their independence like trade does

  • @tavish4699
    @tavish4699 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did they add ss generals in the Update?
    I saw Sepp Dietrich who has a skull on his cap

  • @rowbie627
    @rowbie627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cute dog

  • @mattlangford7651
    @mattlangford7651 ปีที่แล้ว

    i would prefer the title of the planes to be "Sky Panzers"

  • @ashkaplan7548
    @ashkaplan7548 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tried a similar strat as Hungary tonight... Joined the Axis really early... USA declared war on Germany in 38... Fighters worked great though!!

  • @VarenvelDarakus
    @VarenvelDarakus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    they are not overpowered tho , in fact they are worse then L-fighters in every way
    but you were fighting nations who have terrible starting planes , you maxedout your doctrine and had stacked advisors and spirits of airforce , also Had numbers advantage (due your production is way higher then these countries)
    if you had similar comparable regular fighter you would do better as they are twice as cheap and only marginally worse
    every test i seen (and done by me too) proves that not only small fighters beat mediums , but also trade better.
    only advantage they offer is bigger range and they might be better for shoting strat/super armored bombers

    • @Gustav_Kuriga
      @Gustav_Kuriga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That bigger range is huge. It massively increases the amount of effective fighters you can have in a single airzone. I see so many people not realize the full implications of large air range.
      AND they can pull double duty as CAS/Tactical bombers.

    • @VarenvelDarakus
      @VarenvelDarakus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gustav_Kuriga you can add drop tanks to l-fighters

    • @Gustav_Kuriga
      @Gustav_Kuriga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VarenvelDarakus you can add drop tanks to all fighters.

    • @VarenvelDarakus
      @VarenvelDarakus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gustav_Kuriga yes , but even with extra tanks(one less module) still beat heavy fighters , and airzone not matters unless you fight in odd places , most Europe fits lights with extra space

    • @Gustav_Kuriga
      @Gustav_Kuriga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VarenvelDarakus And I can have heavy fighters on one end of Europe providing support on the other side of Europe. I can easily triple the number of planes in a zone. Instead of having three lines of factories making fewer of three types of planes, I can have one that provides air superiority with passable CAS capability.
      You say they are worse at CAS, and I say that doesn't matter so long as I'm the only one that has CAS flying. If they even try flying CAS I can obliterate it. If they try to fly lights I can gain local supremacy with superior range.
      The one weakness is being able to afford to produce them in sufficient numbers, meaning they aren't feasible to use as a minor where you won't have the production capacity to create the efficiency of scale.

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm yee hoi4 lore of heavy fighters momentum 100

  • @MirrorPeakFM
    @MirrorPeakFM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Overpowered and Broken...sounds like a Paradox DLC to me.

  • @ammelodiana5664
    @ammelodiana5664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    has anyone else not getting decision alerts anymore. ever since blood alone i just dont get alerts and dont notice when i get a bunch of new focuses

  • @bodhisfattva7462
    @bodhisfattva7462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    so heavy naval bombers not get shot down either?

  • @RobloxingNews
    @RobloxingNews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I wanted to see a fight vs the Soviet

  • @jeremiahkivi4256
    @jeremiahkivi4256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just ignore the fact that a 4 engine fighter just becomes a faster strat bomber. Literally can't turn worth a damn. Doesn't make sense, but welcome to the number simulator that is hoi4

    • @ilikeships9333
      @ilikeships9333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah the agility stat is almost useless just speed and air attack

  • @superminer1993
    @superminer1993 ปีที่แล้ว

    it seems that everyone had the same idea with heavy fighters

  • @oddiethefox5832
    @oddiethefox5832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think adding defense turrets isn't worth imo. You can cheapen the production cost by removing those.

  • @AlexBergPlays
    @AlexBergPlays 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go get the Soviets! Plz 😊

  • @yonekamil1235
    @yonekamil1235 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yo

  • @Skarago
    @Skarago 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll always watch you Alex!

  • @TankerBricks
    @TankerBricks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think someone broke the speed of sound ingame with 1.1K speed.

    • @Pqgers
      @Pqgers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      we break the speed of sound with planes all the time

    • @gabrieldossantos1116
      @gabrieldossantos1116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pqgers Yeah but not with 1930's planes lmao although the first supersonic plane was from Nazi Germany if I'm not mistaken. One of the wunderwaffen from 1944-45 so not that much time to be build in mass

    • @aceofspadesattorney
      @aceofspadesattorney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gabrieldossantos1116 The ME-262, I assume is the one you’re thinking? Don’t believe it broke the sound barrier but it did come rather close. The first known supersonic flight was the Bell A-1 flown by Chuck Yeager though it is possible a plane went momentarily supersonic prior to that. If there was a supersonic flight prior the plane likely never landed as even the 262 was known to go out of control around Mach 0.8, if I remember correctly.

    • @Pqgers
      @Pqgers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gabrieldossantos1116 yeah that's what I meant the game is a little unhistorical so might as well those planes would have been built in 1930's or smth

  • @impostorsyndrome1350
    @impostorsyndrome1350 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fighters do nothing to help divisions fight, except maybe for Para trooping or Nuclear attacks. Build CAS, CAS is KING!

    • @Gustav_Kuriga
      @Gustav_Kuriga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You literally have no idea how the current DLC changes things then. There are no more airframes that are solely CAS or Fighters. Heavy fighters can also do CAS/Tact.

    • @impostorsyndrome1350
      @impostorsyndrome1350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gustav_Kuriga but those planes are generally worse than planes who specify at their field. Specific CAS will be better than CAS + Fighter

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Used to watch for matt.
    Now I watch for Nigel AND Matt.

  • @regentwaynekerr
    @regentwaynekerr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're the hoi4 stampy

  • @johnchvatal2451
    @johnchvatal2451 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats in the Magic Binders???

  • @dagunner5814
    @dagunner5814 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please take the world

  • @LordFlieger
    @LordFlieger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is CAS still king though?

  • @hunthalrian6772
    @hunthalrian6772 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nigel OP( Alex great job with your videos in general,I like them!)

  • @bosnjakball
    @bosnjakball 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not first!

  • @SekurusTheProudViking
    @SekurusTheProudViking 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want a Nigel only hearts of iron video i don't care who you have to go through MAKE IT HAPPEN!

  • @lerbronk
    @lerbronk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    who is alex?

  • @biohazard6233
    @biohazard6233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Giggity giggity Nigel

    • @biohazard6233
      @biohazard6233 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn well I'm convinced guess I'm getting a prize yay 👌

  • @Marklennon
    @Marklennon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the subtle music underlying the video!! Also here for Nigel

  • @thompsoncawley203
    @thompsoncawley203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes sir. Total world domination 😂

  • @explodingwolfgaming8024
    @explodingwolfgaming8024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Commenting 4 algorithm

  • @josephshorr6781
    @josephshorr6781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I've noticed the uk is always way short of equip. Go to the new logistics tab as an ally and it's crazy

  • @SteelWalrus
    @SteelWalrus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like for Nigel!

  • @dioget1
    @dioget1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dont fall for it. Normal fighters are still better

  • @prius_power
    @prius_power 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Early squad

  • @lifecookies5501
    @lifecookies5501 ปีที่แล้ว

    28:39 the Samsung 💀

  • @matthewlee9342
    @matthewlee9342 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:35 KING OF THE SKY

  • @Airchiken50
    @Airchiken50 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    gotta take the usa out

  • @monty7342
    @monty7342 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    28:40 smasung noise

  • @will2777
    @will2777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should continue with the super heavy planes

  • @bhok5228
    @bhok5228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be nice to see you a video with a sad face all the video.

  • @janipetra5346
    @janipetra5346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yesss

  • @hyaproductions5690
    @hyaproductions5690 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    NIGEL FOREVER

  • @akramgimmini8165
    @akramgimmini8165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blitz 'em Kamerad

  • @jimthesoundman8641
    @jimthesoundman8641 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:41 It's *fru-ition* not through-ition.

    • @floridaman4073
      @floridaman4073 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      English isn’t his first language…

  • @IDOLA149
    @IDOLA149 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Nigel

  • @thatch7653
    @thatch7653 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the rambler

  • @adizul1620
    @adizul1620 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    susule

  • @slackauthor5746
    @slackauthor5746 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hiiiiiiii

  • @Vogelkinder
    @Vogelkinder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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