Military Circle - Norfolk, VA | a dead mall, malodorous with clandestine mold | ExLog 48

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    In this episode of the Expedition Log Series, we travel to Norfolk, Virginia - the city with the largest Naval Station in the world! The USS Wisconsin looms over the city, and it also has a dead mall. The Military Circle Mall has fallen over the years, and sits with no current retail anchors, losing quality merchants each day. There is mold throughout, but it goes unseen. Come take a walk with me!
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  • @sal
    @sal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

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    • @Chocolatchips
      @Chocolatchips 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sal, did you get a chance to stop at the not-at-all-dead MacArthur Center while you were down there??? The architectural features in that place, while represented in other malls, are so over the top beautiful at MacArthur Center. The place is, as they say, "aesthetic AF", complete with operating, choreographed laminar flow fountains, working escalators and glass elevators.
      When I last visited, I noticed some dated-looking wooden features in the ceiling of the food court that appeared to suggest the place had been re-modeled at some point. When I first visited around 2007 (when even Military Circle was still packed with shoppers), I thought Mac. Center was relatively new, but I suppose there might be pre-renovation photos out there to find.

    • @coferryan90
      @coferryan90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey sal I am one of your biggest fans and I'm so happy that you had found this in my hometown Norfolk Virginia and it's very educational so keep up the good job and I will be looking forward on more of your videos so thank you so much with love ❤️💕

    • @mersea.714
      @mersea.714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sal, please come back to this area ASAP because historic Pembroke Mall in Virginia Beach is being emptied within a few weeks from now. (December 2021) The tenants will be moving out very soon & mixed use housing & retail put in. The tenants got little notice & will vacate within the next few weeks. It was one of the first malls here. Please document it or reach out to someone who can. Thank you.

    • @purebloodheretic4682
      @purebloodheretic4682 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're a Great Narrator mate! Reminds me of the Hypernormalisation Doco!👍

  • @bluemoguldom
    @bluemoguldom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Wow. All I can is Military Circle once had the crown as "The Mall" at one point. Lot of great memories there growing up. Celebrities used to walk through and everything

    • @joshapples88
      @joshapples88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hell yeah , my father & mother when they were young met a couple while my father was stationed in Norfolk on the navy

    • @keithsmalls
      @keithsmalls ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely...great memories there...I live right down the street from Military Circle...so sad it's gone!!

  • @skooliemom
    @skooliemom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    My friends and I used to hang out here on Friday nights in the '80s and early '90s. We played video games across the street at Putt-Putt and Flipper McCoy's, and got food at McDonald's and sat outside on the old playsets there. I remember when that hotel first opened..it's crazy to think about it all going downhill. Lynnhaven Mall was really the place to be, we just could never travel that far at 13.
    *I forgot, my favorite place to eat as a kid and preteen was Picadilly Cafeteria in the mall.

    • @pslay9324
      @pslay9324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      my boyfriend took my to Picadilly on a Friday night, thinking it was a older people's diner, however I loved it, it was quiet and the staff were very friendly ...30 years ago ..I do miss those days.

    • @firearmsandfreespeechtv2025
      @firearmsandfreespeechtv2025 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      757 💯💪🏻

    • @TRAINDRIVERNC
      @TRAINDRIVERNC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So true and exact,really classic,fun times..

    • @oliveb.
      @oliveb. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the best memories of this mall as a kid,teen and early 20s. Picadilly's was great and had the best rolls. I remember working at Leggett's and going to the movies at Circle 6 and Circle 4 outside. I remember Putt-Putt Golf and Flipper McCoy's across the street too.
      It's all gone now and the mall permanently closed on 1/31/23. It will be demolished in a few months.

  • @blesspicasso
    @blesspicasso 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I was at this mall in October... They built a wall that blocks where the fountain is at.
    More stores have left that side since this was filmed too...
    I clearly remember the better days here in the late 80, 90's & early 00's. Nice work, Sal.

    • @game_master_rukia
      @game_master_rukia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      it all has to do with the 2015 shooting. store owners are scared to put stores in there

  • @sammiewatson6957
    @sammiewatson6957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I know I am going to sound sappy, but this video made me cry, it was my childhood, Movies, my grandmother, and Piccadilly

    • @RETROGEMS
      @RETROGEMS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My childhood too...I remember eating at the Piccadilly cafeteria SO well! It was a real treat for me to act like a grownup and pick out all the things I wanted and sit down and have lunch with my mother after an afternoon of shopping. I remember the interior and design of the restaurant, like it was dipped in amber and preserved sometime in the early 1970s...forever 1971, LOL. A few years later, I loved shopped at the old Suncoast video store and discovering my love of movies. When the movie theater opened up, I was in seventh heaven! It was the best theater I'd ever been in, so elegant. Hurts all the more to see this mall in pretty near shambles. I made some sweet memories there.

    • @RETROGEMS
      @RETROGEMS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Fuert Neigt Naw, she's not. Everybody has happy childhood memories they like to remember.

    • @JimberWumby
      @JimberWumby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They got a smaller mall in Manassas that's in terrible shape and it was my whole childhood. I took my little brothers there not too long ago to show him all that changed and he couldn't believe at one point people willingly hung out there

    • @royrodgers757
      @royrodgers757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I remember catching the city bus with my friends to go hang out at Military and then go play video games at Flipper McCoys! Man I miss those days ☹️

    • @auroraboobiealice6352
      @auroraboobiealice6352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I loved Piccadilly, I worked there on the serving line in the 80s when the mall was in it's heyday.

  • @gnarkiil
    @gnarkiil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    As a Virginia Beach resident, I’ve been watching your vids for a few days now thinking “I wonder when they’ll do Military Circle...” here it is!

    • @sal
      @sal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yay!!! Virginia Center Commons is next!!!

    • @gnarkiil
      @gnarkiil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sal, Pembroke isn’t too far behind Military Circle either. You’ll be back in 3-5 years to video that one next. Lynnhaven is decent, MacArthur is on the decline as well.

    • @seekinghimdaily92
      @seekinghimdaily92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sal: YES, I figured this would make the cut. That mall is on life support. I went on a brief shopping trip there a few weeks ago. In and out quickly as usual 😂

    • @dickmiles1
      @dickmiles1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gnarkiil Can't believe Pembrooke Mall is still there. I can remember going there 40 years ago. Wow--- Independence Blvd--- old memories.

  • @jfrch67
    @jfrch67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I used to work at Mother's Records & Tapes at Military Circle back in the 80's. We were directly across from the AMC 6. I saw lots of free movies. We would give the theater employees our discounts for tapes and cds. Many happy memories. The Sheraton was always busy. The flight crews from many airlines would stay there. Norfolk International airport was just a few minutes away. Thanks for posting.

    • @jamesmeyers8277
      @jamesmeyers8277 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You had a cool job, I remember how popular Mother's records was and I miss that store. My first job was as a movie usher at AMC 6 back in 1985. The mall was so busy on the weekends.

    • @Trey45S
      @Trey45S 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to go to Mothers all the time. I bought so many cassettes there. Y'all even had import Duran Duran cassettes!

    • @oliveb.
      @oliveb. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Trey45S OMG I loved the import Duran Duran 12" records! Mother's was great!

  • @reenanewby4568
    @reenanewby4568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Welp it’s called Killitary Circle Mall now...no one when I say no one goes here... this mall is the mall you drive pass and go to MacArthur Mall in downtown Norfolk...

    • @sal
      @sal  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Truth.

  • @mannyrichtofen4354
    @mannyrichtofen4354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Your videos actually have a therapeutic effect and an escape from life's pressures.

  • @bob59pa
    @bob59pa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    When Military Circle opened that furthered the end of major retail in downtown Norfolk. The surrounding area had many retail shopping centers constructed in the late 70's & 80's however JANAF shopping center across the street from Military Circle had been there since the 1960's if not sooner. An interesting note about Janaf's name is that it stood for Joint Army, Navy, Air Force.

    • @LM01234
      @LM01234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks, neat fact. I didn't know that what JANAF stands for

    • @oengusfearghas9608
      @oengusfearghas9608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is called janaf because it originally was a joint armed forces air strip. In fact one or two of the old buildings from that era still exist on the property

    • @RETROGEMS
      @RETROGEMS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember the old movie theater at JANAF too--the old General Cinema that looked like it had been built in the 60s or early 70s. I saw my first movie there, "All Dogs Go To Heaven" in 1989! Good memories of JANAF, I used to shop there all the time with family, we used to constantly go to the Montgomery Ward's department store that was there until it closed down sometime around the late 90s, early 2000s.

  • @chrisjoyner3376
    @chrisjoyner3376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I worked at Military Circle mall in the food court back in college (around '06) . Had a guy pull a gun on us because we didn't give him enough ketchup packets. I quit the next week.

    • @pslay9324
      @pslay9324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Holey Chit! If that same guy did that today in the society in which we live ...people would take out their cell phones and record it instead of dialing 911 for help.

  • @SynchroSk8
    @SynchroSk8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I'm getting a mold ad on my side bar 😂

    • @sal
      @sal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lol wait are you serious

    • @bastardferret869
      @bastardferret869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      installation or repair?

    • @SynchroSk8
      @SynchroSk8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sal it was like a mold removal company. I was cracking up.

    • @Karmy.
      @Karmy. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao

  • @cas226
    @cas226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I worked at the AMC inside in the early and mid 80s and it was always crazy busy and was one of the theatres that literally built that company. I remember Chick Fil A was here and the only place you could get it. Eventually moved to Circle 4 outside and recall exclusives like Platoon playing there. Always busy. Best times of my life. Lining up outside for concert tickets by the hotel before being allowed inside..... my youth..... all changed and gone.

  • @Decade8Media
    @Decade8Media 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love the double negative from the Blart. " We don't allow no picture taking " lmao.

  • @dickmiles1
    @dickmiles1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Holy Cow--- I grew up going to this mall some 30-35 years ago when it was in its heyday. Come Xmas the traffic down Military Hwy and I 264 would be backed up for miles. I remember the old AMC theater--- it was ironically right dab in the middle of the mall-- Chick-Fil-A across from it and next door was an Orange Julius. There used to be a Picadilly cafeteria there as well. There was a McCroys, Thalheimers, Doctor pet store with the puppies in the window, Spencer's gifts, and what seemed like countless jewelry stores as well. The Sheraton hotel was there forever although I never knew of anyone ever staying there. It always looked somewhat of a dump even in it's heyday. On the back of the mall was a Flipper McCoys arcade which was the bomb back then. Over time the surrounding neighborhood became worse and riff raff moved in and killed it. I can't believe it's still standing but as I said in it's day it was by far the busiest shopping complex in the area. Great video.

  • @Trey45S
    @Trey45S 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is the mall from my childhood. I remember what a treat it was to go to the Piccadilly Cafeteria after church on Sunday. This was the era of Virginia's Blue Laws, the whole mall was closed except for the Cafeteria. They used to stretch out a real velvet rope to cordon off the rest of the mall from the Cafeteria. I also remember when JC Pennys was finished and opened, my mother took me there to buy school clothes and "Hush Puppies"" shoes with the gum soles. Thanks for bringing back some good memories from my childhood.

    • @pslay9324
      @pslay9324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember Virginia's Blue Laws, Peoples at Pembroke Mall ..you could only buy certain items on Sundays. Woolworths, same thing, I used to go to Military Mall about every Friday night and some of the best times as a kid and young adult.

    • @nobodycares7233
      @nobodycares7233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same!!! Grew up here- Picadillys is all gone except for Hampton.

  • @Avenue72nd
    @Avenue72nd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The security guard lady that kicked you out is the same one that I saw walking in Dan Bell's Military Circle Mall video lol. She's still there... Love this video, my mom grew up in Norfolk and loved watching this.

    • @game_master_rukia
      @game_master_rukia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      that security guard follows everyone around the mall and will kick anyone out that she thinks is suspicious

    • @inthezone4123
      @inthezone4123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sounds like she's doing a good job!

    • @oliverjones1845
      @oliverjones1845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She also saw someone get shot

    • @MrSheckstr
      @MrSheckstr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lived in Churchland from 79 to to 86... I think I saw Space Camp here before getting sent away to my grandparents in the Midwest while my fathers ship transferred to Bremerton WA

    • @skooliemom
      @skooliemom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrSheckstr I grew up in Norfolk, left when I was 28. I now live in Union Wa. I saw many movies in that mall.

  • @lisamarieva3514
    @lisamarieva3514 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Correct pronunciation of Norfolk is "Nawfuk" if you're a local. Watching the drive in from the tunnel, over the Berkeley Bridge and through Nawfuk was very nostalgic for me. I was born and raised in Portsmouth (locals say that "Pawsmiff") and Chesapeake and the tunnels are the quickest routes to get most anywhere in the Tidewater Area. Sad to see all our old hangouts gone. Newport News is pronounced "Newpanoos" LMAO. We talk funny.

    • @sal
      @sal  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a bunch for the comment! Born in NY, raised in NJ, displaced to MD...my accent is all over the place...

    • @GeorgeWashingtonX
      @GeorgeWashingtonX ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very true.. Norfolk should be pronounced 'Nawfuk', as it traditionally was.. But good luck finding anyone under 60 who still pronounces it like that. For some reason, Gen Xers (& down) have been raised to pronounce it: NOR-fuk.

    • @Will-ek6mk
      @Will-ek6mk ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Im 34 and I don’t know anybody local that pronounces anyway except Nah-fuk

    • @montbrink4700
      @montbrink4700 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GeorgeWashingtonX it's still pronounced Nawfuk

    • @michaelraum3393
      @michaelraum3393 ปีที่แล้ว

      Berkley*

  • @robd5695
    @robd5695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I remember going to that mall in mid to late 80’s...especially to go movies. It used to be a very busy, “cool” mall. However I thought it was closed now. I haven’t been in probably 20 years.

    • @GeorgeWashingtonX
      @GeorgeWashingtonX ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, that was something Military Circle had going for it back then.. their movie theaters. Virginia Beach didn't have as many screens back then (especially before Lynnhaven Mall was built). But honestly, I don't ever remember Military Circle being 'cool'.

  • @Xcessive
    @Xcessive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Growing up, this mall was always kinda weird to me. You could drive ten-twenty minutes down the road to Greenbrier Mall, Chesapeake Square, McArthur Mall, or even Lynnhaven. Chesapeake Square is sorta dying now, but we'd always go out of our way to go to literally any other mall.

    • @GeorgeWashingtonX
      @GeorgeWashingtonX ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The flocks of aggressive seagulls didn't help Military Circle's aesthetic either. Anytime you were out in the parking lot, it was like something from a horror movie..

    • @randomguy2809
      @randomguy2809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now McArthur mall is dying too. Hell even Lynhaven has a few empty stores.

  • @MrsSusieL
    @MrsSusieL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I spent a lot of time in that mall in the 80’s. How times have changed.

  • @nleavenworth3064
    @nleavenworth3064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The city is considering redevelopment there including a much needed arena to replace the aging Scope downtown. All of the area malls are losing business in various amounts

  • @Xanaxdu-si3ch
    @Xanaxdu-si3ch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like your mall series BEST, Sal. I've quit following the others.
    You do a great job documenting the stories of these places! Your approach is very matter-of-fact, not sensationalistic. You value design and building skills. You factor in the sentiment people have towards spaces like these. Malls have been cultural reservoirs for decades and you give them their due respect. You're a good person, Sal. You tell good stories. Thank you for that.

  • @winterburden
    @winterburden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was a midnight security guard at Macomb Mall for about a year. Little known fact, we called each other Blarts even way before that Paul Blart movie came out.

  • @edwinwise6751
    @edwinwise6751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a teenager I remember military circle as the future of malls , did all my Christmas shopping there one year..

  • @happyorganist
    @happyorganist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wow. We used go there every summer while my deceased grandparents lived in Norfolk. We were kids my sisters and I used to eat in a a restaurant there before my parents would have dropped of us off for the summer. Wow

  • @tolget4684
    @tolget4684 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I called the "Be a Star" hotline.
    I danced my little heart out but didn't win.... 🙄🤣

    • @abigailchipman8732
      @abigailchipman8732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      maybe they would have been impressed with ventriloquism? LOL

  • @TrueRetroflection
    @TrueRetroflection 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    There’s something about an old Virginian accent I find really calming

    • @rebelwithacause3574
      @rebelwithacause3574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have a deep Virginia accent. They're getting harder to find because northerners have moved in droves and are successfully destroying the state's culture.

    • @TrueRetroflection
      @TrueRetroflection 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      William White
      Shame. Carpetbaggers are doing the same to my home state....

    • @rebelwithacause3574
      @rebelwithacause3574 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TrueRetroflection Yeah, I've been all over the southeast and absolutely love the culture and landscape of the old Confederacy. I have found that most carpetbaggers taking place in Virginia,Carolinas and ofcourse Florida the most. Tennessee seems to have the least amount of carpetbaggers, though I could be wrong.

    • @Brian-gh7fj
      @Brian-gh7fj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same but it really irks me for some reason when they pronounce Norfolk like Nore*Feck instead or Nore*Folke

  • @lemapp
    @lemapp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There were numerous phone booths throughout Military Circle because of the sailors from the Naval Base. There were shuttles from the Naval Base to Military Circle and they would hang out for long periods. The Naval Base now has its own mall which is partially open to the public. A military ID is required to make purchases in most of that mall. The movie theater is the cheapest in the region, it sits next to a jet runway.

    • @joshlawill
      @joshlawill 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Jet runway " 🤣

  • @x1plus1x
    @x1plus1x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Because of this video, I went here last week for the first time, after living in the area for 41 years. The muzak echoing through the empty corridors is creepy.

  • @AGhostintheHouse
    @AGhostintheHouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember this mall while being home ported here in 1990(my last year in the U.S. Navy) on the U.S.S. Enterprise and it was a pretty lively place with a carousel in the middle of it. There was a Two Pesos Mexican restaurant next to a movie theatre on the northern edge of the property that made it a nice place to hang out.

  • @cocean158
    @cocean158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I live across the street from this mall. I spent my entire teen years in this mall. When Double Tree took over and let the property slide..management started removing " undesirable" tenants (urban) to compete with MacArthur Mall downtown. We locals (urban) said ok and stopped shopping there. Sad to see it everyday withering away.

  • @persnunoun
    @persnunoun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was my go to mall only because of the movie theater, but covid killed all that. RIP Cinemark at Military Circle.

  • @deeisme1369
    @deeisme1369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    There was a shootout in there a few years back. I get eyes all over when in there

    • @robertobrien7102
      @robertobrien7102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dee Wall I’ve read that in the comments for a lot of these dead mall videos

    • @robertobrien7102
      @robertobrien7102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blank Stare I hear you. It is pretty common. Forest fair mall is like that. Check it out there’s videos about it. That’s near me. You’re totally right about people getting so soft about the truth too lol

    • @rebelwithacause3574
      @rebelwithacause3574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ The truth is a revolutionary act. I'm certainly not scared of the truth.

    • @iworkout6912
      @iworkout6912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing hurts business than shootings...A local mall closed after several women were assaulted in the parking lot over a years time. Word gets around, and increased police present didn't erase what had happened. Sears lasted longer than expected, but it was the most quiet store that size I had ever seen. Sometimes felt like I was the only customer.

    • @AcesnEights698
      @AcesnEights698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely a factor in malls dying, the preference of not being robbed/murdered...

  • @071787sarah
    @071787sarah ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was the mall of my childhood in the 90s. There was a great restaurant as part of the hotel, I got my hair done in a salon at the mall, and spent a ton of time in a bookstore there. All of my school wardrobes were purchased from JCPenneys. Lots of great memories ❤ The mall just closed for good a couple of weeks ago

  • @jptang1701
    @jptang1701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Sal, I've always held you in high regard. But that comment about the "3" Indiana Jones movies has put you on a new, higher level with me. Agreed good sir.

    • @sal
      @sal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There are only three, including the one in development right now lol

    • @utharkruna1116
      @utharkruna1116 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      4 actually, but i don't count the 4th.

  • @fmcevoy1
    @fmcevoy1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I was in Norfolk when I was in the Navy in 1975-1976, Military Circle was the only place that had a bookstore.

  • @BigKahuna0275
    @BigKahuna0275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Malodorous" such a great and prestigious sounding word for such a very BAD thing :D

  • @stevedow5842
    @stevedow5842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So sad to hear what happened to MCM. I have many fond memories as a 20-year-old Navy sailor in 1979 taking a TRT bus to the mall on a Saturday afternoon just to walk around and then have dinner at the Piccadilly cafeteria and later see a movie before taking the TRT bus back to the ship.

  • @LM01234
    @LM01234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    In that same Sears court, I met and got an autograph from Sable from WWE
    Edit: in like 2000

  • @theneonexplorer
    @theneonexplorer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The floors in this place are gorgeous

  • @oliverjones1845
    @oliverjones1845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I live in this area. I was there when there was a shooting on Valentine’s Day. Sad cause this mall used to be amazing in the 80s and 90s

    • @RETROGEMS
      @RETROGEMS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was there at its height in the 1990s. It really used to be fun--I can't believe it's been allowed to crumble and deteriorate like this!

    • @XeCuTioNR
      @XeCuTioNR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What up OJ 😎

    • @oliverjones1845
      @oliverjones1845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sup lol

  • @troypol343
    @troypol343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember seeing Star Wars inside this Mall in 1977-78. It had long carpeted ramps that led to the area where pop corn sales and theaters were. I saw Raiders of the Lost Ark in a theater that was outside the mall.

  • @patchesmalonescolorfulthin9313
    @patchesmalonescolorfulthin9313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is how I like to end my week..perfection again sal

  • @MrDan708
    @MrDan708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It's always interesting to try to guess what some of those empty store spaces used to be.

    • @JerryJunior26
      @JerryJunior26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Macy’s used to be there, so was Sears.

  • @NEONPARADlSE
    @NEONPARADlSE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I live in Hampton Roads where this is. I've been here for like 10 years and have never been in that mall. Its had a bad reputation forever and nearby MacAurthur Mall blows it out of the water.

    • @thrillington2008
      @thrillington2008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I used to live near Military Circle and it had a bad reputation then when I lived in Norfolk.

    • @Danerboots
      @Danerboots 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When I was going there to take pictures, I was told to be extra careful.

    • @game_master_rukia
      @game_master_rukia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      lynnhaven mall blows them all out of the water

    • @HumanSnatcher
      @HumanSnatcher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Only reason I ever go there is because the theater is the cheapest.

    • @FricknA
      @FricknA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      When I was stationed at Norfolk, I loved MacArthur Mall, especially the movie theater on the top floor. I miss that mall. Sigh.

  • @johnnyc4717
    @johnnyc4717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    “178 dalluh suit for 54 dalluhs”

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Johnny C Lol Hampton Roads people are known for chopping off their “R’s not unlike New Englanders but slower.

    • @trollsthatlol1
      @trollsthatlol1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fairfaxcat1312 As someone from that area, now you have me wondering if I do that lol!

  • @ncavefan
    @ncavefan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ok for anyone who reads this and used to go here during the 80's who remembers that store the music man i loved that store and so therefore loved going to this mall

  • @RETROGEMS
    @RETROGEMS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a major part of my childhood. Military Circle and the surrounding JANAF shopping area. I remember going there as a tiny tot starting in the early 90s until I was a teenager in the 2000s. Piccadilly's cafeteria was a restaurant that used to be inside the mall, and I'd have lunch there with my mother after an afternoon of shopping and browsing. Suncoast video store (all 80s babies, 90s kids remember this chain!) was one of my favorite places to go to there, alongside the beautiful Cinemark movie theater that was built in the late 90s. Saw some great flicks there!
    I remember when Military Circle Mall was renovated in the mid-90s. I remember it very well, actually. My family commented on how the mall was being transformed and it seemed like it was on the road to a whole new era for the place. I remember pre-Cinemark a tiny movie theater that was totally unimpressive, saw a flick there "A Stranger Amongst Us" in '92, but for the most part when me and my family were in the area, we'd go to the old General Cinemas theater in JANAF that eventually shut down in 2000 or 2001, I believe. That's why when the renovation happened and the Cinemark, I was so happy. Loved that theater! The interior was designed kinda like an old-school movie palace, reminiscent of it. They really tried to improve this mall, I believe. But ultimately, it slid downhill anyway, which is sad. That old Doubletree hotel was a fixture of my childhood as well. I remember always staring up at it and thinking how cool it would be to sleep in a hotel in a mall. Also saddened me when I heard, some time after I moved away from the region, that the hotel fell apart and had to be shut down. Jeez. I've always considered this a good piece of property, the mall/hotel. It doesn't HAVE to be a waste, it can be utilized, but the crime in the area I think is the major reason this mall ultimately ran out of chances. A lot of the local punks helped make this place dismal and give it a bad reputation, it was already getting one in the 90s when I was a kid. I figure that this mall doesn't have much time left, I can definitely see it closing down completely or being razed in the next few years.

  • @howardg2435
    @howardg2435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I remember this mall very well from when I was on active Navy duty 1990-1994. I was actually stationed at Naval Air Station Oceana, in Virginia Beach. This was a gang ridden place after dark to certainly be avoided. People in the early nineties, no one really had good things to say about this place. Pembroke and Lynnhaven malls were the places to be by comparison. Norfolk was a rather dismal city then, but has made some improvements since. This is just my observation, but I think this mall was in a bad area for business in Norfolk. People could go to Virginia Beach for a much better experience. The beachfront along Virginia Beach was, and is still, a big attraction to the area. Again, Norfolk is just not very glamorous. But I do remember crime around the Military Circle Mall during the early nineties, when I was there. Seeing this video of the mall now show me a place that is seriously a shell of its former self. Very sad to see here. Keep the awesome videos coming Sal! You rock!!

    • @tiffytatortots1278
      @tiffytatortots1278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Howard G we were stationed in Norfolk for about 8 years- just left a year ago but still have ties there since we own a home in Chesapeake and I can tell you first hand Norfolk is still a giant piece of shit. The crime in Hampton roads hasn’t changed at all if anything it has gotten worse. At least back in the day the thugs would wait until the sun went down and kept their BS in the crap areas but now you can get robbed in the middle of the day in a populated nice area. The criminals are brazen now. Felt like I was back in Baltimore. Well maybe not that bad lol but I still had to watch my back non-stop. It’s ridiculous

    • @redskinmark
      @redskinmark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I worked there from '92 - '95. I agree it was crazy on the weekends, but during the week it was ok. Met a lot of celebrities! They always stayed at the Sheraton (Doubletree) and would shop in the mall. It was a very busy mall back in the day and it's a shame that it has gone down but I blame 3 things. The food court and remodeling didn't bring people back. MacArthur Center took folks away. And when light rail came to downtown Norfolk, it was easier to go downtown and shop. That was the end of this mall. Unfortunately it's not coming back!

    • @takenitlight
      @takenitlight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never after dark in the 80's! I went there or Lynnhaven in the late 80's to go to the "Record Bar" & get concert tickets until Farm Fresh started selling them. I can't believe they spent the money to renovate MCM!!! What a waste! I had no idea they did until this video. Lynnhaven & MaC 10 malls are riddled with gang crime and shootings. Mac already fell. Nordstrom left a year ago. Parking garage was death trap. Nice mall, but too close to the hood. It was a matter of time. Of course ORF leaders keep trying to bring in anything/ everything. Outlet mall @ old Lake Wright Hotel/ North Hampton Blvd, racing Portsmouth for casino. etc. Thanks Again Sal!!

    • @takenitlight
      @takenitlight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      4got: Got tickets at those 2 malls & FF until I realized I could get them on base & NEX ORF was brand new! Nicer & Much safer!

    • @RETROGEMS
      @RETROGEMS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I used to go there sometimes with family from the early 90s until the early 2000s and I actually have a lot of fond memories of the mall, despite it all. For the longest time, the shoppers were primarily families. I used to love eating at the old Picadilly's restaurant, getting movies at Suncoast. In the daytime we really never had any issues and we loved going to the beautiful movie theater that was built there in the mid-late 90s, I believe. But it definitely eventually went downhill despite the new theater and other renovations, and we shopped primarily at Pembroke. It was definitely the location and certain punks who screwed up the place. If it hadn't been for the trouble-makers, I think it would've lasted a lot longer.

  • @marcusponce
    @marcusponce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved your video and the way you made your comments. Honestly, I cried watching this video... an adorable place like this abandoned due clandestine mold... I felt a pain in my heart.

  • @Karmy.
    @Karmy. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    3:54 god I am so glad that color died

    • @shavonnestacia2865
      @shavonnestacia2865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh my God! We had that same washing machine in our house when i was growing up.....hated that color....

    • @txri9677
      @txri9677 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao low key that's my favorite color 🤣🤣

    • @nasirb3914
      @nasirb3914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I like it

    • @PinkAgaricus
      @PinkAgaricus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think we had that washing machine at first too...then it broke (with it's dryer)...and we got a new one.

  • @oengusfearghas9608
    @oengusfearghas9608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I haven't been in military circle mall in quite some time, with the exception of going to the theater. Last time I wandered through there really weren't any shops that held my attention, so I just never went back despite driving past on a semi-regular basis. It's interesting to see you coming to my current stomping grounds.

  • @NEONPARADlSE
    @NEONPARADlSE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was an awesome video and I really liked the period news clips that you placed in it!

  • @eth39232
    @eth39232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We lived in Tidewater VA from 1967 to 1972 and from 1981 to 1983. This and Pembroke Mall were our primary malls. We went to the JC Penney here. There was once was a Sheraton Hotel in the mall. I saw S.O.B. with Julie Andrews at the theater in 1981 when I was 17.

  • @pslay9324
    @pslay9324 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I grew up in Norfolk, VA Beach back in the early 90's late 80"s wow. Great footage. Sad all the malls are disappearing fast.

  • @YachtLife
    @YachtLife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Crazy enough, I just moved from the Hampton Roads area a few months back bafter living there for 7 years ..... Don't miss it . Lol... This mall was dying long ago.

  • @usselpasoable
    @usselpasoable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    while in the Navy in 80-82 , this is where I came to feel like a civilian and catch a movie, and the nearby putt-putt and steak and Ale

  • @Danerboots
    @Danerboots 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's always so cool to see a mall you go to on the channel.

  • @laurenoneil
    @laurenoneil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sal, your work is truly inspiring. Thanks man.

  • @pdxwatcher
    @pdxwatcher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I worked on the conversions of two JB Hunter stores to Thalhimers - the first was at Coliseum Mall in Hampton, with Military Circle following.

    • @sal
      @sal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh wow! Thanks so much for watching!

    • @MrJamieBattle
      @MrJamieBattle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Flipping miss coliseum mall

    • @Karmy.
      @Karmy. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would be dope af if you had pics of it
      How hard is it to convert stores?

  • @Dvorak567
    @Dvorak567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Your titles have the best adjectives.

    • @sal
      @sal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It’s my favorite part

    • @Karmy.
      @Karmy. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed!

  • @potstab2875
    @potstab2875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Security: "We don't allow no picture taking in the mall." High standards for recruitment, as always....

    • @samueljoyce5867
      @samueljoyce5867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pete S. LOL that’s my exact reaction to double negatives!
      Also want to add that I grew up in Va Beach, but would visit this mall in addition to Pembroke and Lynnhaven. It was scary in the 80’s and 90’s, not surprised to see the state of it now. Thanks for visiting this mall, Sal! I live in CT now, have become obsessed with dead mall videos, and recently subscribed to you.

    • @ironroad18
      @ironroad18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This place use to be wild. Drug dealers from NYC and DC would come through to hang out and along with drunk saliors and marines. I watched a group of girls fight in this mall one night, one girl got slammed through a trash can.

    • @dawsoncrump8484
      @dawsoncrump8484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thats Norfolk for you

    • @darthvaderoftheredpill5196
      @darthvaderoftheredpill5196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lighten up dude, she clearly does her job reather you like her speach pattern or not. She does a lot better than someone like you who wouldnt have the guts to look the average person in the eye.

    • @darthvaderoftheredpill5196
      @darthvaderoftheredpill5196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dawsoncrump8484 Do us a favor and stay out.

  • @jakerez4666
    @jakerez4666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I saw this mall when Dan went there it seemed busier now for some reason I figured it shuttered by now ! Great work as always Sal Merry Christmas !

  • @neildennis7294
    @neildennis7294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:39 Since you mentioned movies, I remember standing in a long line for almost two hours for the July 4th promotion of free screenings that Columbia did for Karate Kid Part 2 at this mall.

  • @dorothymurray7244
    @dorothymurray7244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lived in Norfolk for about 22 to 23 yrs. on South Military Hwy. My daughters n l use to love going to that mall.Its really sad to see it so empty now.

  • @toritant5080
    @toritant5080 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I worked for top guard last year and one of our duties were to patrol the double tree hotel at that location. It’s scary being in there because homeless will break in and squat. You don’t know what you’ll find in there, feces, needles, broken glass, abandoned weapons, all kinds of stuff. Not worth being in there if your not being paid for it. The restaurant just below it was condemned because they found bed bugs. And just recently they finally closed the mall and auctioned off everything inside. Not sure what’ll happen to it now.

  • @mazzycollins9856
    @mazzycollins9856 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ​Another fantastic job, Sal! Thanks for the trip down memory lane!

    • @sal
      @sal  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for watching!!

  • @Rjack5150
    @Rjack5150 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great memories in military circle mall.. very sad to see it go.. we lived there in the 80's.

  • @joshdenton611
    @joshdenton611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "not so clandestine anymore, are we mold" ROTFLMAO!

  • @DarkMachineNation
    @DarkMachineNation 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video and research, I'm always impressed by the amount of information in your videos.
    I'm a sucker for fountains too... I miss those.

  • @tendraftsdeep
    @tendraftsdeep 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did some environmental contracting work there back in the 90's. Best part was grabbing an oceanfront room over in VA Beach at night. Great Video Sal!

  • @DoomieGruntVentures
    @DoomieGruntVentures 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tidewater Virginia. Home to some of the worst traffic I've had the displeasure of sitting through. But it was oh so worth it for the malls there.
    About time you've started getting your perspective out on this place. I'm finishing edits on my own take of Military Circle as I type.

  • @Nuggs1980
    @Nuggs1980 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent job Sal!

  • @ceeezup3701
    @ceeezup3701 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The official last day was today sad day had so many great memories there 😢. Went there a couple days back almost looked like a graveyard its so sad to see a place that used to be filled with so much life dull like that .

    • @oliveb.
      @oliveb. ปีที่แล้ว

      Same😢 I went there in December and January to walk through and film a little while trying to remember how it used to look. Sad indeed.

  • @YiFangShen
    @YiFangShen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still awesome video! Thanks for making!

  • @keithsmalls
    @keithsmalls ปีที่แล้ว

    Great memories there...I live right down the street from Military Circle...so sad it's gone!!

  • @daveshrum1749
    @daveshrum1749 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Oh my God that commercial from the 90s! LOL where do you find this stuff Sal ?! Love the vid as always sir.

    • @kgrubb9398
      @kgrubb9398 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Never saw that video. But it kind of creeped me out.

    • @SacredFire777
      @SacredFire777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I started laughing when I saw it.

    • @marykay8587
      @marykay8587 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But one of the kids sang My heart Will go on by Celine Dion which didn't come out until '97

    • @sal
      @sal  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dubbed it

  • @Starphot
    @Starphot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember this mall when I was stationed nearby at Oceania in 1972-1975. Back then malls was a big thing. I went there to shop or to look around. There was a travel agency I went to get plane tickets home for Christmas and summer leaves. Denver had 2 big malls then so this was just another mall to me. Those 2 Denver area malls are long gone and scraped off for the big box stores.

  • @ItsaRomethingeveryday
    @ItsaRomethingeveryday 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Well, liked this expedition log Sal

  • @frankbullitt4556
    @frankbullitt4556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 1970 it was the place to go. It would be packed at Christmas time. Prior to this,Janaf shopping center directly across Va Beach blvd was a great place to shop. Sad to see it go down hill.

  • @michaelashcraft8569
    @michaelashcraft8569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I frequented this mall while stationed in Norfolk in the Navy, it was the first one I ever saw, I loved it, kind of figured it would be gone by now.

  • @GarlandPollard
    @GarlandPollard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work sal. Spent lots of time there as a kid.

  • @jorgearnoldson3107
    @jorgearnoldson3107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to live five minutes from this mall when I was a little kid, and would go mainly for whatever new movie was out.

  • @bernardschmitt6389
    @bernardschmitt6389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    as always another amazing episode

    • @sal
      @sal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks James!!

    • @bernardschmitt6389
      @bernardschmitt6389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sal of course! oh and my name is not james hes a guy from the grand tour he used to be on top gear oh never mind

  • @doloresromo199
    @doloresromo199 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Sal. Lots of Sunlight with that high ceiling full of windows and the plants are still thriving . But that smell and Mold that is not so Clandestine after all..is the part where you know it won't be long before..those thriving plants start dying soon for the Closure of yet another Mall. Quite sad..but I could listen to you for Hours with your great narrative voice ..the added far away echoing of voices and old commercials in the background make for a very melancholy mood in your videos. take care

  • @MrJohnnyPappis
    @MrJohnnyPappis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow I remember those phone booths in my mall growing up! Man that really ages me lol

  • @jewelhaines8842
    @jewelhaines8842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Sal! I just subbed. I like your tour of the mall. I live in Norfolk. Great video! 🙂

  • @PaNativ
    @PaNativ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I visited this mall back in the early 1990s (1991 to be exact) when I was in the Navy. Crazy to see it now...

  • @MrButch-ls8vl
    @MrButch-ls8vl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I visited this mall back in May. I thought it was weird. For example: there were a score of shops were open, but it seemed half of them were jewelry stores! Not "nice" jewelry stores but tacky places where you buy gold teeth "grilles." The surrounding neighborhood seemed going downhill. Just across the highway was a depressingly shabby trailer park.

  • @motoGPness
    @motoGPness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was just there today, it’s still a ghost town. It’s an erie place to be! Not sure it will ever recover unfortunately.

    • @sal
      @sal  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :(

    • @nunyabusinesss8344
      @nunyabusinesss8344 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Era of Malls is OVER throughout America..People utilize On-line Shopping.. AMAZON, SHIEN, and other direct from China shopping..

  • @njaneardude
    @njaneardude 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome research sir! Wow, my mom would drag me and my brother to Military Circle seems like every weekend. I haven't been inside in over 40 years.

  • @pizzaearthpancakesandother2549
    @pizzaearthpancakesandother2549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When they made Military Circle they broke the mould but didn't _Break the mold_ ....
    POW!
    Great exposé Salvatoré!

  • @elizabethortiz7740
    @elizabethortiz7740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use to shop there. I remember how bussy it used to be. I recently went there again to see a movie . it's so sad how empty it is at this point. I remember delivering a wedding cake at the double tree hotel afew years back . thank you for telling us the story .i always wondered what brought it down.

  • @StephiePpn
    @StephiePpn ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who moved to the area 7 years ago and will never get over how nice people are compared to where I'm from, its cool you caught those kids saying "thank you" for holding the door. accurate

  • @Tornado1994
    @Tornado1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    During Memorial Weekend 1991, My Mom and her GF(Girlfriend to a Woman in the 80s meant BFF) took me and her son my Chum to Military Circle in Norfolk. It was a Blast. We played Castle of Illusion on Sega Genesis at Electronic Boutique and saw Sonic 1's Demo for the very first time.
    We also had lunch at LJS there.
    Im beyond saddened that this great tourist mall is nearly dead.

  • @exploringwithkevin607
    @exploringwithkevin607 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video Sal. 😊👍❤

  • @gregorytimmons4777
    @gregorytimmons4777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kind of funny at 1:25 passing a Toys Are Us store on your right. Seems you can't swing a dead cat without it hitting a defunct franchise chain these days. Locally Janzen Beach Center on the Oregon/ Washington border along Interstate 5. Built in the 80's on the site of a defunct amusement park, Janzen Beach. In the early to mid 2000's it was refurbished-translation, thinned out with 2/3rds of the structures vanishing, and that was before Toys Are Us vacated their stand alone store near the back of the mall property.

  • @jredd801
    @jredd801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid sal.. thanks for the tour brother..👍

    • @sal
      @sal  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure and my duty! Glad you liked it!!

    • @davewilson6451
      @davewilson6451 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sal, you have a great "voice over" voice. Its just incredible the amount of money that changes hand in these mall deals.

  • @hyperspaceoddity7805
    @hyperspaceoddity7805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think even hearing about the mold made my sinuses hurt 😂