Greenspoint (Gunspoint) Mall - Houston, TX | a dangerous dead mall | ExLog #38

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  • @sal
    @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    Hey everyone! Greenspoint (Gunspoint) Mall is here! Can you spot the three times the pair of guys was following me? Thank you so much to my patrons for directly supporting my Expeditions...every $1 counts, and it goes a long way! To each and every one of you that have subscribed and followed my channel for the last couple years...THANK YOU! So much more on the way, stay tuned!
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    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Haha must be!

    • @TheBlackOrchard
      @TheBlackOrchard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I totally read that out with your voice in my head haha Looking forward to it!

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      See you soon!

    • @Karmy.
      @Karmy. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Angela-jc8bk and those guys who were stalking Sal

    • @polsi7491
      @polsi7491 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Oh and by the way you think you could visit Plano TX and try to cover Collin Creak mall? Before it’s too late, as in it’s being scheduled for demolition this summer. :(

  • @alanatwood1243
    @alanatwood1243 5 ปีที่แล้ว +676

    In 1985, at the height of Madonna fever, Greenspoint Mall held a Madonna look-alike contest. I remember visiting the mall during the event. The mall was packed, and I do mean packed from one end to the other, with 14 to 18-year old teenage girls dressed in their best Madonna garb. The mall was booming then and couldn't stock their clothing racks with enough Madonna-esque apparel. What an era it was. I kind of miss those days.

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I miss those days too...

    • @greenvortex7
      @greenvortex7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yes I remember that, was in High School at the time...

    • @rolsonDotcom
      @rolsonDotcom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah! The 80’s were the Heyday of malls it seems. My mall was Fox Valley mall in Aurora, IL
      The mall was always booming during the 20 years I grew up there. I hope it still is. I miss ‘Musicland’ ‘Record Town’ and ‘Sam Goody’
      I just saw at Target the other day a section of their music devoted to vinyl. It was kinda weird to see that after all these years.

    • @LeofromFreo
      @LeofromFreo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That was probably before her pointy cone titties phase. 🙄

    • @Dr.White_PHD
      @Dr.White_PHD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is fascinating. I’d love to get with you and hear more about it.

  • @stacykelly1681
    @stacykelly1681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I grew up going to Greenspoint Mall. Then in October 1989, I was stopped in the Hallmark store by a cop who escorted me out to my car. Place was filling with opposing gang members getting ready to fight, and HPD was trying to empty the mall fast. The officer put...no, THREW my baby stroller in the trunk and told me "you and your baby get out of here....and please don't come back ". He saved our lives that day. And I started going to Willowbrook.

    • @trentpettit6336
      @trentpettit6336 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Are you familiar with the old NORTHLINE Mall which was about five miles south of Greenspoint? Unfortunately, crime was a problem at Northline going back to at least the 70's, when Greenspoint was new!

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@trentpettit6336 I literally live about 2 miles from the Northline Mall. Back in 1996, The Magic Johnson Theater opened(I Saw Space Jam there on Opening day in 8th Grade), it was the MAIN thing that kept this mall from dying, but ultimately, the Magic Johnson theater folded up in '06, the Mall eventually died and was deactivated in 2008. It remains abandoned.

    • @trentpettit6336
      @trentpettit6336 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tornado1994 But I thought there was a Walmart (and a bunch of other stores, plus a few restaurants) there today... I'm confused...

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@trentpettit6336 That's Northline Commons.

    • @JennieAndrews-l8j
      @JennieAndrews-l8j 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stop shopping. Spend on necessary

  • @lauracisneros8135
    @lauracisneros8135 5 ปีที่แล้ว +777

    I’m from Houston & it’s sad that the other people outside of Houston have heard greenspoints nick name “gunspoint” 🤣

    • @michaelboyle8667
      @michaelboyle8667 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I've lived in the Houston area or surrounding areas most of my life & I remember that place being a hub of activity & lots of fun! I'd love to have all the quarter's back that I spent at Aladdin's Castle! My highschool was the 1st one to hold it's prom at the Wyndham Hotel, which you can see at 3:06, the building with the spikey-looking roof.

    • @anthonyg3961
      @anthonyg3961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@AlexandraMyers73 I use to live down the street by both greenspoint and memorial city mall. Both very different areas and people on those two sides of town. You have the higher upper class snobby people in memorial and ghetto lower class in GP...I learned how to deal with em both lol

    • @anthonyg3961
      @anthonyg3961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AlexandraMyers73 I don't think so lol I went to aldine 9th grade center and after that moved to memorial high school for my sophomore year. Was some good times lol wish I can go back

    • @fredjackson6576
      @fredjackson6576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't let that bother you Laura, im sure some of their Malls (if they STILL have one) may not be as safe either...

    • @Emiliapocalypse
      @Emiliapocalypse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol I’m the exact opposite. Lived there for a long time and never heard it called that

  • @danielharrison7565
    @danielharrison7565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    I am 50 years old. I grew up on the north side of Houston. I knew cops that would not respond to stolen car calls at that mall because they would get stuck there doing them all day and they hated it. There was a notorious and much copied group that called themselves "The Greenspoint Possie" that prided themselves in how much they stole from the stores there and how much misery they caused the community there. One upmanship eventually led to killings in that area. Now, for those of us that live in the area we call that whole general area Gunspoint. Their are lots of apartments in that area and they are all low income havens for crime. As for the guys following you... Sizing you up to rob. Maybe watching to make sure you didn't come out and catch their partner breaking into your car(or a car they thought was yours).

  • @sydIRISH
    @sydIRISH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    I was born in the 80's, so I'm a sucker of anything retro....especially 60's-70's.
    I love 60's and 70's architecture, I'm a huge fan of retro-futurism. That kind of architecture shows up a lot in older malls. Yummy nostalgia....

    • @JJ-wk5wy
      @JJ-wk5wy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm an 80' baby too and I just love the old architecture from the 60's- 80's. I don't know why, I just do.

    • @OG-rs7ov
      @OG-rs7ov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was born in 90 but retro-futurism in malls and buildings unlock forgotten memories. It feels peaceful.

  • @spacecase13
    @spacecase13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The spots where everything goes quiet except for the ambient sounds is extremely atmospheric, creepy, compelling and enthralling. Beautiful work, great documentary on this mall. Great job, thank you.

  • @ddoyle11
    @ddoyle11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +765

    This video makes me heartsick. I worked at Greenspoint Mall in the summer between my sophomore and junior year, 1979. I worked at J Riggins, a very modern menswear store. I sold my share of bellbottom slacks and shirts with giant collars and big cuffs. We used to take our lunch at the food court and listen to the water operated chimes. There were giant trees everywhere in keeping with the malls motto “springtime every day“.
    We used to park way out at the far edges of the parking lot, and then enter the mall through the employee hallways like the one at 18:10. We never feared for our lives, and it was no big deal to walk down those hallways well after midnight when the stores closed.
    Back then, that area of North Houston represented the new, clean and shiny part of the city that everyone wanted to go to. It was a suburban paradise. My how things have changed. Thank you for sharing this video with us. It took me down memory lane.

    • @scottonasch8819
      @scottonasch8819 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I remember and loved J Riggings (not that one). All those clothing stores I used to go to are gone. It's nice to hear from someone who remembers the great days. It was so much fun to visit or work at a mall then. A lifetime of friends and memories. When I worked in a mall we always were to park in the outer perimeter of the lot usually outside the drive that circled the mall. It was never scary.

    • @pachuca33
      @pachuca33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you for this pastime history of this mall! Growing up this mall was at its downhill time (late 2000s) as we would always go up to the woodlands mall

    • @vinijohnson4695
      @vinijohnson4695 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I used to shop at this mall in the 1980’s and believe it or not I managed the J. Riggings store in College Station until it went out in 1995. Good memories.

    • @culturedmilk363
      @culturedmilk363 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I bet this mall was awesome until the s*** heads moved out of the Heights into North Houston Greenspoint area

    • @theTORTUGAZUL
      @theTORTUGAZUL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@passive101 lol

  • @AmethystSnow
    @AmethystSnow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +553

    Houston native here... I'm not old (only 26) but I remember going back to school shopping at Greenspoint. Now I wouldn't step foot there if you paid me.

    • @CherryBlossom32428
      @CherryBlossom32428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I'm 27, native Houstonian, and I remember how it was when crime was low to nonexistent, I wouldn't send my worst enemy to Greenspoint mall. Unless they fix the crime rate, no one should go there.

    • @kenneth7118
      @kenneth7118 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lol I’m defo younger at 21 but I haven’t been to Greenspoint in awhile. I didn’t know it was like this now. Lol I lived in South Park so we only went a few times to go for school shopping. It used to be packed.

    • @peteramarillo8952
      @peteramarillo8952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I remember in the early 80s greenspoint mall was the place to be. Lots of girls, teens, everybody having a good time. It would be jam packed on the weekends. It was fun. Now its a damn shithole

    • @RobotHunter1234
      @RobotHunter1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I was there maybe a month or two ago buying a uniform for my job lol. Place is eerie.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm old(36) I remember the last time I stepped foot inside and that was February 5,1994.

  • @peterson88keyz
    @peterson88keyz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Fun fact: Watch this with "The Shining" soundtrack and it's scarier than most horror movies today.

  • @noahvasquez4887
    @noahvasquez4887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Lived in Houston all my life and never been due to strict instructions by my parents. Been to malls all over the city like Baybrook, Almeda, Katy Mills, but never there. Good to see someone talking about these things

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Infinit 0 Katy has TONS of Black People. your point?

    • @butt02plug
      @butt02plug 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Katy has turned into shit

  • @629GSMITH
    @629GSMITH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    I am 68 yrs old from Houston. I went to Greenspoint mall grand opening. And many times after that.

    • @justinpennington7682
      @justinpennington7682 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are you bragging or complaining?

    • @oodfty3740
      @oodfty3740 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      justin Pennington or reminiscing

    • @Vicente99969
      @Vicente99969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GREGORY SMITH BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

    • @anthonyruiz6365
      @anthonyruiz6365 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Greenspoint mall use to be much better then now?

    • @TheLinuxYes
      @TheLinuxYes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      welcome to the New and Greater America.

  • @LSxHTX
    @LSxHTX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    I remember walking into this mall back in 2012 and literally within 15 seconds of walking in I was like "yah, nahh I'ma head out" lol

    • @davehouston6528
      @davehouston6528 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Pussy

    • @LSxHTX
      @LSxHTX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@davehouston6528 Sorry, I wasn't used to being in such a shit hole

    • @sal
      @sal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Don’t apologize. The place is a massive pile of shit. I feel bad for the people there.

    • @davehouston6528
      @davehouston6528 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Allen Todd you mad mad. Glad I got to make u mad lol

    • @davehouston6528
      @davehouston6528 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Allen Todd na cat lol

  • @belgard8389
    @belgard8389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I live in Houston and I want to thank you for showing the inside of this mall because back in the early 80's it had potential and now it is way too unsafe to go there. You took a risk I would never take.

    • @aidancanoli
      @aidancanoli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol dude relax the guy who went crazy is dead you won't get killed or anything

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dead?

    • @aidancanoli
      @aidancanoli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@sal I'm talking about Jason Hawkins. btw really informative and well structured video. i just think most of the ppl commenting are being overdramatic about the "risk" of going there

    • @youtubeadmin1588
      @youtubeadmin1588 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Belgard lol people are so ridiculous. There’s nothing unsafe about it, even during the 80s and 90s. It’s a big big place, rare instances happen. It isn’t unsafe and never was unsafe, but that perception certainly played a part in its demise.

    • @PeppySteps
      @PeppySteps 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I am a young, short female and I've gone there alone a handful of times. It is a creepy environment sure. At most I get prying eyes, maybe the men wondering why the hell anyone would come shop here, but was never harassed unless you count the food court workers trying to get me to buy their food lol.

  • @SuiteAces
    @SuiteAces 5 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    Houstonian here, holy hell I wouldn't be caught dead at Gunspoint! I was never allowed to go there for good reason. That place has a sad history. I was born in 85 and knew that mall's history well. We either went to West Oaks or Memorial after it's renovation. You've got balls of steel for stepping foot in that place.

    • @sharon94503
      @sharon94503 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is that?

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      This mall is horrible. So is the area around it. Houston rocks, but this direct area needs help.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      West Oaks went down in 2008.

    • @chriss4357
      @chriss4357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tornado1994 I guess Greenspoint outlasting it means something.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You got that right. I heard it’s being converted into a Coca Cola Factory.

  • @teddyatondo3915
    @teddyatondo3915 5 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    I'm a security guard in Greenspoint we fight a lot

  • @truth4783
    @truth4783 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Bruh, I took my family there not knowing it was a dangerous mall and our lives could’ve been in danger. So glad nothing happened to us

    • @jakehinton732
      @jakehinton732 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dumbest logic ever... Your life could be in danger any moment you step out of the house.

  • @Strongbah43
    @Strongbah43 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I'm a simple man, I see a dead mall video and I watch. Thanks for the content Sal, you and Dan Bell make youtube amazing.

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You make my comment section amazing.

    • @Mrgone454
      @Mrgone454 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stongbah43 Don't worry I'm sure TH-cam ruin that some day.

    • @socoamarettojustine
      @socoamarettojustine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      if you like this channel and dan bell, check out the Retail Archaeology channel, he makes great videos too!

  • @EkhoProductions
    @EkhoProductions ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great report!! I grew up roaming that mall with my mother as a child in the 80s and hanging out with friends and dates as a teenager in the 90s. Thanks for the upload!

  • @edwinhicks926
    @edwinhicks926 5 ปีที่แล้ว +333

    This content creator should be a movie director. Damn, this was more interesting than most of the trash at the movies or T.V.

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I love you.

    • @kanna-san.
      @kanna-san. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Get a room

  • @gpalmerify
    @gpalmerify 5 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    FYI, After Hurricane Harvey in 2017, Displaced flood victims exceeded the NRG Center shelter's capacity. ~800 people were moved to the empty Macy's store in Greespoint.

    • @ladyof5304
      @ladyof5304 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yep

    • @sjcflawless
      @sjcflawless 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wow! I swear, I thought Gunspoint had the nickname because of the stories of people getting robed of J’s on the first release date?

    • @ChromeChildren12
      @ChromeChildren12 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      2016

    • @gpalmerify
      @gpalmerify 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ChromeChildren12 Formed August 17, 2017 Made landfall August 25. I was there ;)

    • @lizmowrey9866
      @lizmowrey9866 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I remember that! (Houston native). Then it closed in April 2018

  • @davidturner2113
    @davidturner2113 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Such a tragedy that so many huge malls have gone out of business in our country over the years. They used to provide a lot of employment.

    • @RobertMillerJustme
      @RobertMillerJustme ปีที่แล้ว

      The Tragedy was they built them a total waste of trillions of dollars across the nation. Now they are being torn down this truly shows the value those with money value what they built.

    • @beerman9807
      @beerman9807 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RobertMillerJustme not the one in the white rich side , GreensPoint , SharpTowns Mall , Pasadena Mall and GulfGate Mall Shiite down because they in the hood but BayBrook Mall sucked bad compared to them but it got the all the money because it’s in the White side of town , I’m not trying to start anything but it’s the truth

    • @RobertMillerJustme
      @RobertMillerJustme ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@beerman9807 I accept that money talks - I am in the Dallas area but grew up in Baltimore Md and very few are left, most of them have public transportation BUT are in areas with more police. The area I lived in had golden ring mall which was opened in late 1974 and they tore it down in 2002, it was a very middle-class area at the time. To think those buildings did not make it to 30 years old is mind-blowing to me. But honestly, it shows the very true nature of those with money, they have very little vision and foresight and pore good money after bad. The labor is wasted by tearing them down.
      In all honesty, I have gone to 2 malls in the last 30 years and both times it was in and out, I personally just never got malls they were ok in my teens but by the time I was 30 they lost all appeal to me also I am cheap I look for value at the discount price names brands never appealed to me, I was 55 before I owned a pair of Nikes, I am 59 and grew up poor and worked my ass off to get out of it.

    • @rubenbarrera7338
      @rubenbarrera7338 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amazon. Lol

    • @Li-ck8ek
      @Li-ck8ek 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@beerman9807if you go a little further south close to I wanna say Texas city or La Marque there was a mall that was dying off pretty bad by the twenty teens. Mall of the Mainland I think? And idk how Almeda Mall is doing nowadays I left Houston in 2021. But yeah the rich parts of Houston got the cash flow to keep their malls alive I guess. Kinda sad but it is what it is I guess. Although my dumb teenage self was always at baybrook growing up lol 😂 but I grew up off of el dorado close by

  • @em4957
    @em4957 5 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    i didn’t even realize the mall was called greenspoint until this video. i’ve only ever called it gunspoint

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I completely believe this statement

    • @StephanieManley
      @StephanieManley 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sal that's what the locals call it!

    • @2Cambell
      @2Cambell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh, dang. I'm so sorry. It was once very nice.

    • @greenvortex7
      @greenvortex7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I grew up in Houston - finished high school in 90, so I remember Greenspoint Mall, but also left Houston back in 93 and remember it quite well...I guess the name changed then but I remember it being a great mall to go. I do not remember it being an issue to go to the area but I did not live near it and seemed fine.

    • @teddyrosevelt4699
      @teddyrosevelt4699 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2Cambell no it wasnt lol

  • @TheRealCaptainFreedom
    @TheRealCaptainFreedom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +368

    Now I really want to buy a hideous couch from an eccentric guy who calls himself The Wolfman.

    • @dondressel4802
      @dondressel4802 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Captain Freedom so that’s where wolfman Jack ended up

    • @BillHawkins0318
      @BillHawkins0318 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too !

    • @TheRealCaptainFreedom
      @TheRealCaptainFreedom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bill Hawkins Ask for The Wolfman.

    • @Momof4furbabies
      @Momof4furbabies 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is a Georgia company im
      pretty sure. I think he may have died. I remember him when I was little watching tv.

    • @cwattsghigh
      @cwattsghigh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Old-school Atlanta shit

  • @edgar8497
    @edgar8497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    it’s heartbreaking to see a mall that I hold dearly in my memories, turn into what it is today, i cant help but see your shots of emptiness and in my head picture all of the people i once saw in the late 90s roaming around, as a kid of course my favorite part about that mall in particular was the arcade area next to the food court, having some NY style pizza.
    To answer your question it was around 2005 that the mall started decaying at a faster rate, across from Greens Road, there was a funriture store called Finger’s furniture, the original owner passed away and the son sold the whole company, and the property was turned into a flea market, which had items of lower quality but cheaper prices, which attached to the crime, it was the fatal blow to Greenspoint Mall.

    • @reneeweeks9777
      @reneeweeks9777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was decaying wayyyy before then

  • @jtstacey83
    @jtstacey83 5 ปีที่แล้ว +337

    That no saggy pants sign tells you all you need to know.

    • @earthing3696
      @earthing3696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yeah those e-boys are ruthless.

    • @h.n.441
      @h.n.441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agree

    • @TheLinuxYes
      @TheLinuxYes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      your're right, poor minorities are the only ones who shop at malls anymore.

    • @SuV33358
      @SuV33358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amen

    • @notone4029
      @notone4029 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @James Stacey , first thing I spotted too!! Yep NO JNCO pants ZONE!!!! 🤦🏻‍♂️😂😂😂😂

  • @Glock_Nico
    @Glock_Nico 5 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I was a kid when the Star Wars 'actors' made an appearance. I got Darth Vader's autograph on a promo picture!
    I thought it was the coolest thing ever to see Darth Vader and R2D2 in person walking the halls at the mall.

    • @Mom_sBasement
      @Mom_sBasement 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You need to get out more.

    • @ckvon9644
      @ckvon9644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Mom_sBasement you mean like out of the "basement"?

    • @Glock_Nico
      @Glock_Nico 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DIVISIONINCISION lol ... I don't think he did.

  • @kjkj6362
    @kjkj6362 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m in Houston for business and unknowingly booked my stay at the Hilton North in Greenspoint. The Hilton is grand yet frozen in time like the mall in many ways, settled in a cluster of skyscrapers build by Exxon in Greenspoint in the roaring 80s. Exxon since fled Greenspoint and my Hilton 9th floor hotel room faces empty ghost towers and Greenspoint Mall. My hotel can be seen at the end of this video as he walks to his car, the pointed building. My hotel has armed security and I drove to the mall before knowing all this for lunch today and my sense of danger fired up when I approached the court doors. I decided to leave as I had my suitcase in my rental and did not want it stolen or a broken window on my rental car.
    It is so eerie watching this now in my hotel looking at the dead mall as we speak and rain begins to fall.
    Great video

  • @sabymarie1116
    @sabymarie1116 5 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    I'm moving from Pasadena to gunspoint soon. Me and my bf went to the movie theater at gunpoint mall to see glass and their projector over heated!!!! Everyone started protesting for free popcorn 😂 and we ended up getting free popcorn and a refund and just went to amc to see the movie. Never again.

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Every word of this is believable

    • @rolandomontana1389
      @rolandomontana1389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Texas Made ckuz Pasadena aint shit fucking cops in every corner

    • @lizmowrey9866
      @lizmowrey9866 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Omg! I lived here for 2 years, stay safe!!!

    • @milowolfface9392
      @milowolfface9392 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Holy shit, I remember this. It even had a few blog post.

    • @rolandomontana1389
      @rolandomontana1389 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Southside Playa yeah and alot are crooked or just dont give a fuck who they get

  • @nathangillon7294
    @nathangillon7294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    5:45...
    6:53...
    9:41- ducks into luggage shop after suspicious person spotted...
    10:15- seeing if coast is clear...
    10:30- clerk of luggage shop asks, "can I help you?" to unseen person...
    10:57- guy to the right...
    11:18- guy on bench...
    14:28- guy ahead of massage kiosk...
    16:03- guy to the right...
    17:56-...(!)...have we been made?...
    23:41- clearly upset about being made...

    • @ianvader4697
      @ianvader4697 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      scumbags keeping the stereotype alive, then cry BLM when they get shot

    • @jayecarrierful
      @jayecarrierful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chris Nelson PIG

    • @meganingersoll1561
      @meganingersoll1561 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nathan Gillon With that awareness I have to assume you work retail..

    • @chadschmaltz9790
      @chadschmaltz9790 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I noticed that he ducked into the luggage shop to get away from the guy that was behind the sign.

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Correct

  • @amysocool7
    @amysocool7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Hello im a houston native and i just wanna say that this mall looks worst in 2020 and 2021 PLEASE DO NOT GO THERE IT IS EXTREMELY SCARY

    • @soullessprincess6473
      @soullessprincess6473 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nearly every store is gone as of 2023 it was honestly scary I came to explore the abandoned parts but left after seeing some sus shit

    • @eliseoduque3261
      @eliseoduque3261 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      went there 2019 , shady af, bad vibes

  • @FirstFamilyCharger
    @FirstFamilyCharger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    My man you just about made yourself a victim by cornering yourself in an isolated area. You may not have been aware of them by that point but be careful man. May want to consider carrying a firearm if you don't.

    • @SYKOK1LLER
      @SYKOK1LLER 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe it was to bait them in then he shows them the guns point if they try anything.

    • @rolandomontana1389
      @rolandomontana1389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Sykokiller bait them in hahaha killers in houston dont give a single fuck

    • @randylahey9953
      @randylahey9953 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@rolandomontana1389 yeah like having a gun is gonna save you from other people who have multiple guns lmao

    • @frankdenardo8684
      @frankdenardo8684 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rolandomontana1389 I do a lot of things so no one can stalk me. I have about three dozen cars with out of state or out of country plates, most of the cars are US or Canadian built (I don't drive foreign cars), and the cars are not tracalbe. Addresses are Post Office box numbers.

    • @frankdenardo8684
      @frankdenardo8684 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@randylahey9953 a sawed off Winchester pump is my choice of weapon. It increases the spread and I have a Czechoslovakian made 9mm automatic with hollow bullets to increase the likelihood fatal injury.

  • @georgemarkos1074
    @georgemarkos1074 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    That is By far one of the best dead mall videos I have watched.
    The backstory that you gave him the mall was Very interesting, informative, and kind of unsettling!

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much George! If I might recommend another of mine, it’s episode 36, my sequel to the Century III Mall! I think you’ll enjoy it!

    • @MrCalverino
      @MrCalverino 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YES- MURDERS HAVE HAPPENED THERE

  • @JediJason78
    @JediJason78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I lived in Houston (actually nearby Richmond) in the late 80’s, early 90’s and then again in the late 90’s/early 2000’s. My father was a district manager for Sam Goody and I visited this mall with him a few times. It was ALWAYS a sketchy place and I can tell you that it’s ABSOLUTELY true that all the locals refer to it as “Gunspoint Mall”.

    • @sal
      @sal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And tourists like me that heard it from locals. Talked with a few people while I was there that definitely called it Gunspoint.

  • @Sarahlynn1304
    @Sarahlynn1304 5 ปีที่แล้ว +383

    Omg, a no sagging pants policy sign. That made me laugh so hard!

    • @camo7886
      @camo7886 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      That's a big clue to problems they've had and the kind of people they are trying to keep out. It's probably a waste of time, though.

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Lmao 😂

    • @scott917
      @scott917 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      but they are easy to outrun with their pants like that. lol

    • @Darrell1981
      @Darrell1981 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hell some here just have pants off. In those crotch cutters almost look like a thong. Guys too.

    • @guymorris6420
      @guymorris6420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      True and very necessary to keep one big criminal element away.

  • @johaarup
    @johaarup 5 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    A december recording? Christmas decorations and a dying mall is eerie as hell.

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yep. I was there Dec ‘18- Jan ‘19 !

    • @jimsuniverse4954
      @jimsuniverse4954 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep. Every abandoned video I watch theres always some Christmas stuff around.

  • @Dji5hy
    @Dji5hy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Bruh, Almeda Mall has the same stores this mall does. Footaction, Uniform Superstore, that snack stand, weird cheap Suits store, Champs, more shoes...... that’s how you know a mall is ghetto, when it’s really just a big shoe store with weird generic restaurants 😫😫

    • @randomautarch9341
      @randomautarch9341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha, PlazAmericas (formerly Sharpstown Mall) also has like 90% of those stores you mentioned.
      Trust me, I've been to Sharpstown a few times.

    • @sharonjackson268
      @sharonjackson268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't care to go to any mall in the 21st century. In the 80s it was popping..

  • @davidedwards4088
    @davidedwards4088 5 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    I'm glad you didn't decide to walk down that corridor 😰 and your reflection scared the crap out of me🤣

    • @xenophagia
      @xenophagia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I read this at the exact moment he passed the corridor 😂

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      My mom yelled at me for like a week after she found out how dangerous of a situation I put myself into here. Worth it. Won’t revisit..

    • @davidedwards4088
      @davidedwards4088 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@sal In your video I was yelling at you too🤣 " nope, nope oh hell no!🤣

    • @James__Gregory
      @James__Gregory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@davidedwards4088 Me too! I was like, "Sal...don't go in that hallway. No! Those guys are gonna come get you!" It was like watching a horror movie. Be careful.

    • @thomasthepromise8430
      @thomasthepromise8430 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@sal, thanks for putting yourself out there. But you might consider bringing along some backup next time you visit a hellhole like that one.

  • @justanotherghost62
    @justanotherghost62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That brings back so many memories to me with me being there from day one to the last trip in 98. I worked at Wards from 84 to 86. A lot of my life was spent in that mall.Thanks for the footage of what it is now.

  • @PurpleCloud619
    @PurpleCloud619 5 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Imagine if someone bought one of these doomed malls and turned it into an apartment complex.
    A mini-mall community.

    • @teenie7850
      @teenie7850 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Motel Rx I’ve seen a video about this! A lady showed her place and it was tiny but the entire mall was turned into an apartment complex!!

    • @bailleycaviness6650
      @bailleycaviness6650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yess! I have said this same thing. I live by the johnstown galleria mall and always thought to myself they could hit rent if theyd turn them into apartments.

    • @alexissedberry5173
      @alexissedberry5173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or a senior home

    • @lizmowrey9866
      @lizmowrey9866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or a homeless shelter

    • @leightadlock4877
      @leightadlock4877 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@lizmowrey9866 A senior living facility with its own hair & nail salons, grocery, apparel, hobbies, crafts, cafe, restaurants, ect.......

  • @prodos8
    @prodos8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I lived in the Houston area back in the early 80's we'd go to this mall every so often. It was rather far away from were we lived, but I always remembered it being one of the nicer malls in the Houston area at that time.

    • @HyperPiperunscripted
      @HyperPiperunscripted 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep me too Lived in the Pinehurst area and it was a big deal to go there on the weekends. Sadly now when I go see my mom it is all"Houston" and so much traffic After my inlaws and mom passes away me and my wife will never go back.

  • @oldmanballer5088
    @oldmanballer5088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It’s not just the mall. The entire neighborhood is called Gunspoint

  • @janmarchand7294
    @janmarchand7294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm 59 years old and I remember as a child we always shopped in New Orleans at all the individual stores located there on Canal Street, then in the 60's Lakeside Mall opened an open air mall and we went there. It was covered and became the Mall's we are used to today in the late 60's. As I get older I realize I've seen the beginning and now the end of so many different business's and your series leaves me with a bitter sweet nostalgia. I now shop online exclusively because no one goes to the mall anymore.

  • @firebird6522
    @firebird6522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I know a lot of the history of the mall. Great research on your part! However, at the time of the Gonzalez killing, the ficus trees and waterfall were long gone. Those were replaced in the 1987 renovation.

  • @RachelD386
    @RachelD386 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    As a native Houstonian who went to this mall as a child with her dad every other weekend for dinner at Casa Ole and a trip to the toy store, this place gives me the heebie jeebies. Haven't been inside Greenspoint Mall since 2002-2003 when I went with a church youth group for an outdoor parking lot concert (Festival Con Dios, I think). It was sketchy even back then and I only went to the food court (with a friend). Thank you for this informative video and glad you made it out safely! Sad to see it so empty and dangerous.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The last time I stepped foot in Greenspoint was in February 1994. I'm Black,BTW. Mom and I did eat at the Wendys outside of it back around June 2002 shortly after Dave Thomas' death.
      We didn't bother shopping or even stepping foot in Greenspoint.
      In 2000-2004, we lived in Klienbrook/Champion Forest which was only 5 minutes away from Willowbrook. So we had THAT entirely!

    • @cel42334
      @cel42334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was trying to remember the name of the Mexican restaurant that was there, thank you! Casa Ole...that was a pretty standard visit after doing some shopping.

    • @karensandoval3675
      @karensandoval3675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember eating casa ole in elementary school! Parents would always take me there to eat chicken tenders. Those slapped

  • @judahosborne8868
    @judahosborne8868 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    There should be a horror game about a dead mall.

    • @TreyD713
      @TreyD713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Dead rising basically lol

    • @podness.
      @podness. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Left 4 Dead 2 (Death center)

    • @Li-ck8ek
      @Li-ck8ek 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe not as good a fit as the previous comments here, but I think the Last Of Us game and show had a part where they were in the mall. And that was pretty scary.

  • @Rodzilla5332
    @Rodzilla5332 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Dear lord. I remember going to Greenspoint many times right around the time it opened until we moved from the area in 1981. What is so memorable was the feeling that there was running water all throughout the mall. I remember looking at all the places where there were waterfalls that were full of coins from people throwing in pennies and to my amazement even quarters, into the water to make a wish. I went back to the mall around 2004 for the first time and I couldn’t believe it. I can tell you that if those kids following you had been able to catch you in that back corner you would have been robbed. They know the places where they are out of sight much better than you do. If I had the cash I would wall off those stores into individual apartments and put a massive gate around the place and make it an indoor gated community. Just think of how many apartments you could build into all these empty malls.

  • @tracit6254
    @tracit6254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    This brought back memories. That restaurant you peeked into was a “Casa Olé” mexican restaurant for ages. This mall was my stomping grounds as a young teen. I remember we started going there when I was young because North Oaks got too run down and after we watched a horrifically burned electrician run through the mall in shock and collapse (he lived but it was pretty awful) my parents decided we’d go to Greenspoint instead from then on. I remember sitting and listening to the sound of the musical fountain while I was bored out of my mind of the adults shopping and losing a shoe in the grates around the trees and then being nervous about stepping on them (I was little). It had a lot of fountains but they all kept getting turned into planters as I got older. In the late 80’s my family experienced an attempted car jacking in the parking lot (security was coming so they ran). By the early 90’s we’d seen or nearly been involved in so many incidents (we got followed a lot) our parents started driving us to hang out at Willowbrook instead. Then the “really” nice mall opened in The Woodlands.

    • @warbirdnut9269
      @warbirdnut9269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember Casa Ole. Used to eat lunch there all the time. The food quality went down hill and I quit eating there. I remember the musical fountain too. I remember going to North Oaks to see movies a few times. North Oaks Theater was OK until it turned into a dollar theater and that pretty much did it for me. The AMC at Willowbrook was pretty good back then.

    • @pipbilly13
      @pipbilly13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My ex and I got deathly Ill at that casa ole!!

    • @ZoltronNicholasjohn
      @ZoltronNicholasjohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I live in the woodlands and the mall is bussin

    • @oxymuse001
      @oxymuse001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel like The Woodlands Mall is the only truly successful mall besides Willowbrook and HPO in left North Houston
      Sure you could take a road trip to Katy Mills or Baybrook if you wanted to, but who has the time and money for that just to go shopping.
      It’s sad to see all of the smaller malls go under

    • @Li-ck8ek
      @Li-ck8ek 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fun fact: the same company owns Baybrook and the Woodlands malls. I’ve worked in stores within both. They reminded me of each other and after looking it up, sho nuff, same company.

  • @jseidel70js
    @jseidel70js 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember when it was built. My dad was one of the electricians. It was a decent place in the 70's, 80's. Even the 90's wasn't bad.

  • @khodijacks4443
    @khodijacks4443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for being brave enough to film the inside of this mall. I remember going to this mall in the early 2000's. I currently live about 15 miles away from it. You couldn't pay me to pull into that parking lot. If I had a flat tire I'd ride the rims until I was far away. It's a shame the perpetual carnival didn't appear to be there when you visited. I swear I've never seen anybody at it but I've seen it lit up and all the rides going.

  • @laurenelyse5637
    @laurenelyse5637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +474

    Sal.... you are brave. I would never set foot in that mall . Houston avoids it at all costs lol

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I couldn’t *not* go in...it was so intriguing!!

    • @theneonexplorer
      @theneonexplorer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Sal is from Baltimore. He's used to it lol.

    • @ghost-ez2zn
      @ghost-ez2zn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Yeah...bad area. Very bad. I'd feel safer in Fifth Ward.

    • @jason127x99
      @jason127x99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Lauren Corredor yes! Don't go into that mall no less than having an AK47 with a 100 rd ammo drum! lol! Many yrs ago a lady sheriff was murdered there.

    • @Juni0.r
      @Juni0.r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Lauren Corredor the mall isn’t dangerous , you just don’t fit in that area . It’s a ghetto ass mall . Been working there for so long now

  • @JELL0521
    @JELL0521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I went to Greenspoint in the evening one night in late 2019.. I don't know what compelled me to go, but I remember walking through and just being in a state of melancholy and eerie. The whole mall has this feeling you can't shake that goes beyond the abandonment... The best thing that came out of it was the nike sandals I got for a deal lol. Even when I was a kid people avoided this place.

    • @soullessprincess6473
      @soullessprincess6473 ปีที่แล้ว

      The mall is also very haunted if you go near the kids ride you can hear a child’s laughter and the toy moving on its own also in the bathrooms you can sense someone in the stall next to you

    • @WhenDevilsDuel
      @WhenDevilsDuel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@soullessprincess6473lol. Stupid people are funny. Sad there's so many of you though.

  • @mstiefan6996
    @mstiefan6996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    @17:53 you see the three people that were apparently following Sal. Gotta love how when they noticed you were coming back, they did a quick turnaround and walk away as though they weren't up to something.

    • @NathanDavisVideos
      @NathanDavisVideos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ... And the at the end, they flip-out because they were like "shit busted!!!"

    • @rainey2045
      @rainey2045 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@somedude8242 a mass shooter of barely 5 people in the same spot at once? Probably worse.

    • @sandrajones8774
      @sandrajones8774 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe they were curious. Black people are curious too. If he’s so scary and paranoid then don’t go to those areas

    • @AiMR
      @AiMR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@sandrajones8774 Yeah, and men follow women around all the time because they're just 'curious' 🙄

    • @SixBeasts1
      @SixBeasts1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Maintenance Renegade Couldn't have said it better, myself. Hit the nail on the head

  • @TheFriscoBassAce
    @TheFriscoBassAce 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The renovation you discussed in the late 80’s was a “bright” update. The original interior design was very “brown.” Brown floor tiles, earth colors and the aforementioned Ficus trees everywhere. The remodel took out the brown tiles and all the earth tones and brought in the colors you saw now. I grew up in that mall and it’s sad to see what the area has become.

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The original sounds horrible

    • @TheFriscoBassAce
      @TheFriscoBassAce 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Christian B it was the style at the time and was actually very nice.

    • @oblioarrow567
      @oblioarrow567 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I grew up near Houston. Our mall was built in 1980 and had the same Brown and tan color scheme.

    • @miket.220
      @miket.220 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That must have been a 70s thing. Here in New Orleans, the Plaza Mall (in New Orleans East) had that exact color scheme. Actually Greenpoint reminds me of the Plaza, similar setup. They underwent a "brightening" remodel sometime in the late 80s. Like Greenpoint, the Plaza was superhot when it opened in '77, was very popular through the 80s, went downhill in the 90's. Now that whole area is a crime-infested sh**-hole.

  • @luna0719
    @luna0719 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m from Greenspoint- born and raised here. I guess I’m just used to it by now because I feel completely comfortable in every place near Greenspoint.

    • @keyliyah33
      @keyliyah33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

    • @Li-ck8ek
      @Li-ck8ek 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You do sort of get used to it. My husband and I loved the little Chinese buffet near the 99 cents only store near greenspoint but it shut down after COVID I heard. Sad. That was our favorite little spot to eat. Affordable for our budget. 😢 we used to live off Airtex for like five years or so before leaving Houston and tx altogether.

    • @Li-ck8ek
      @Li-ck8ek 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But I grew up in southeast Houston/webster area though. I spent way too much time at baybrook mall as a kid and teen. Lol

  • @Tjm5656
    @Tjm5656 5 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    You gotta be careful Sal. Next time go with back up. We don't want to lose you.

    • @smug8567
      @smug8567 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      is this story a joke? so there is only one Hillary look a like on the planet?

    • @lizmowrey9866
      @lizmowrey9866 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES

  • @TexasHollowEarth
    @TexasHollowEarth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I grew up frequenting this mall through the 80's & 90's. The giant Goodwill store outside the mall used to be a Circuit City. The mosaic tile throughout the mall was part of the update that you mentioned, hence the color scheme. The no-doubt high-maintenance water fountains @ multiple points in the mall were shut off, drained, & filled with plants, not long after.
    Last time I visited, a couple of months ago, there were only about 4 eateries left in the food court (where you parked). The entire GP area is affected, similarly. Most of the local restaurants, such as Fridays & recently Fuddruckers, have been shut down. The entire area is being left to just rot.

    • @scott917
      @scott917 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fuddruckers in Houston are still going strong, but not in bad areas. The two that I go to are ofen very busy!

  • @Will_b83
    @Will_b83 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I lived in Spring TX at the time which is only about 9 miles north of (Guns Point), I remember a kid was killed right outside the mall for a new pair of Jordans that had just been released. And when we say "Guns Point"...we aren't just talking about the mall, it's that whole area.

  • @nikkinicklus7587
    @nikkinicklus7587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I was almost kidnapped there when i was little

    • @sal
      @sal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That’s awful, and I completely believe you.

    • @capn_l
      @capn_l 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I felt like i could have gotten kidnapped in those weird long bathroom hallways with doors that lead to somewhere else, LUCKILY i am alive

    • @PaulGmz0419
      @PaulGmz0419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe that. We stopped going there when Deerbrook Mall opened up in Humble then the Wooodlands Mall.

  • @onceuponabook7838
    @onceuponabook7838 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I remember going there one time when I was a kid with my mom. The experience of being at the mall for the first time was amazing. Now I just look down at it from the beltway and wonder how it's still open.

  • @danielcruz9694
    @danielcruz9694 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You’re very lucky, I’m a houstonian and that corner you walked into I is dangerous.Honestly what you experienced is just the tip. Like that’s a good day. I used to go a lot with my mom and sister in the early late 90s and early 2000s.

  • @AreaThirteenThirteen
    @AreaThirteenThirteen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Yeah I remember when that area was "out in the country" when I was a kid,we used to go rabbit hunting and ride dirt bikes in the empty field before the mall was built,the only section of beltway 8 that existed was between I-45 and Hwy 59 to service the big airport (which was still fairly new at the time) and Greens Road used to dead end at I-45 and then when they finished construction and opened up it was the cool place to be,they used to have fireworks displays on the 4th of July and there were traffic jams and the place was packed during the Christmas holiday season,we used to hang out there as teenagers in the early 80's back and forth between the movie theater,food court (Brothers pizza was awesome)and video arcade (the first one was called Funway Freeway then it moved to the other side of the mall and was re named Aladdin's Castle),the apartments that were built around the mall were full of oil company employees and the area was safe to live in until the oil bust,the recession and layoffs came,the oil workers left,section 8 took over the apartment complexes and a gang known as the Greenspoint Posse roamed the area,then came the infamous murder of the off duty sheriff's officer and the rest is pretty much history.

    • @kjkj6362
      @kjkj6362 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TH-cam Certified Master Mechanic
      What year was the Hilton North built, I’m staying here now as I watched this video across from the Greenspoint mall

    • @americanpredatorfishery5236
      @americanpredatorfishery5236 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Man does that bring back some memories. On weekends my high school buddies & I would drive down from Conroe to shop & hit the arcade, meet people from other schools. And there used to be a drive-in theater directly across the road. Thanks for the history. Moved from Houston after joining the military in 90 & always wondered what happened to the area.

    • @historiclift27
      @historiclift27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Brothers Pizza had a brother store at West Oaks Mall. That one moved to a little center at highway 6 and I 10. It is still open and still awesome! But growing up I ate at the West Oaks one and this one. I remember the lines at West Oaks would wrap around the entire food court. There was a Sbarro too but nobody ate there.

    • @AreaThirteenThirteen
      @AreaThirteenThirteen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kjkj6362 It was built in the mid 80's if I remember correctly.

    • @AreaThirteenThirteen
      @AreaThirteenThirteen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@historiclift27 I never made it to west oaks mall but I heard they also had (maybe still have) a store somewhere in the Woodlands area.

  • @Justin-Hill-1987
    @Justin-Hill-1987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Houston...we have a problem...

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A massive problem at that...

    • @KrazyKeith4
      @KrazyKeith4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Houston IS the problem.

    • @KrazyKeith4
      @KrazyKeith4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There's not a single part of Houston I even want to see.

    • @yuh2634
      @yuh2634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      KrazyKeith4Prez 2020 Uptown Houston and Memorial City are very nice parts, you should visit there.

    • @KrazyKeith4
      @KrazyKeith4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yuh2634 Once hurricane season is over, I will consider.

  • @cel42334
    @cel42334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Child of the 80's here who grew up in Spring, just north of Greenspoint by the big airport. This place was the best when I was a kid. We used to do all our clothes shopping here and I can distinctly remember Christmas and back-to-school shopping. I remember the Foley's having a big Hypercolor clothing display one year and begging my mom to buy me a Hypercolor shirt. Montgomery Wards used to have a big auto repair/tire shop (since been torn down) on the north side of the complex where my Dad went to get tires a number of times. We would often eat at Brothers Pizza in the food court, at Casa Ole, or the TGI Fridays directly across the street. As you said, the building of The Woodlands Mall was definitely the nail in the coffin for Greenspoint. So many memories! Heartbreaking to see what it has become...

  • @Thefireslove
    @Thefireslove 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Whoa. I lived in Greenspoint from dec 28th 1986 till feb of 87. That music sculpture was AMAZING. I got very ill from a flu...I walked in Greenspoint to build my strength back up...it is bizzarre to hear it quiet...thus brings me memories..I was 18...now 51..

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much for the memories! It must’ve been incredible to see Greenspoint back in the day!

    • @Thefireslove
      @Thefireslove 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I followed my then boyfriend..he left Syracuse Sept 86...I left a note on the kitchen table ("Thanks for everything, been a slice, I love you"), hopped a greyhound to follow, and left home for good at 18..got there Dec 28th.. Left for Phx Az on Friday, Feb 13th, 1987.

    • @careygrant493
      @careygrant493 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thefireslove - What an awesome story. Thank you for sharing that. This vid must be heartbreaking to your memories.

  • @kippkong7903
    @kippkong7903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I grew up not too far from Greenspoint Mall. I watched it go from good to bad like many native or long time Houstonians. I have fond memories of how beautiful the Christmas decor at Foley’s (Macy’s) was when I was younger. It’s not as horrible as most make it out to be. Sure, it’s had it’s fair share of problems. It’s an eyesore when driving past, which is probably one of the biggest issues in my opinion. I actually found really great deals at Macy’s and Dillard’s Clearance Center when they were still open. People automatically label something as unsafe because of clientele. There are reports of break-ins and robberies at most Houston-area malls. Houston Police Department (HPD) actually has a sub station at GPM. It has the potential of being great due to its size and proximity to IAH (Houston’s international airport), but I’m skeptical if it’ll ever return to its former glory. Thanks for sharing! Brings back lots of great memories!

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the memories!

  • @janettehudspeth6029
    @janettehudspeth6029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    In the mid 1980s Houstons economy tanked due to Oil bust. This area suffered greatly and many nearby apartments became abandoned. At this time many houses were foreclosed for pennies on the dollar which also hurt the area.

    • @JudyCharles-m2s
      @JudyCharles-m2s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was transferred there from DFW in '83 to manage the Musicland and lived in an apartment just blocks away. It was a really nice area. Transferred back to DFW the following year and was shocked to find out several years ago that the mall had been nicknamed "Gunspoint" and my old apt complex had been razed.

  • @blackjackjoker2759
    @blackjackjoker2759 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This reminds me of the Southpark episode where Randy bought a closed down Blockbuster in hopes of revitalising the video rental store.
    It was a disaster.

  • @bobbyhill8341
    @bobbyhill8341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is where my army recruiting center was, I’m a woman btw and I remember despite my dad being right there, everyone was super nervous about me being outside the center. I was so shocked by how desolate the mall was. It was scary and depressing, it takes a lot to scare me but I was genuinely uncomfortable and I was surrounded by my father and several soldiers. I had to keep going back and forth due to my intake process taking so long but each time I went, fewer stores were open and less people were shopping.

    • @PaolaRodriguez-rd2qi
      @PaolaRodriguez-rd2qi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brooo thats so scary it reminds me of west oaks mall I used to live in the apartments in front and it was so eerie all restaurants were closed and only a few stores were open like Sears and Victoria Secret now I think the store it’s all closed the only thing that remains is Dillars

  • @yeagirl96
    @yeagirl96 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i stopped by after school to take pics yesterday im so jealous of this footage

  • @bobsmithinson2050
    @bobsmithinson2050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    17:20 your reflection scared me! Especially after you mentioning these guys following you.

  • @pollotenders5329
    @pollotenders5329 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Rip jungle gym , i used 2 go there back in 2008-2010

  • @rollinndowe6213
    @rollinndowe6213 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When the mall was "renovated" in 1987, one of the major changes was to "upgrade" the floors from standard, vinyl floor tile to the pink/orange terra-cotta clay floor tiles that were vogue at the time. The terra-cotta clay floor tiles would absorb moisture so that when it rained, it made the floors less slippery, in addition to helping improve the appearance of the mall. Hope this helps.

  • @TheNASCARJeff
    @TheNASCARJeff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The Wolfman and his daughter Donna owned two furniture stores in Atlanta and yes it is true that that he was sued by Wolfman Jack and won so he kept the name. His daughter and he had a falling out and when he dies she kept the stores...

    • @243wayne1
      @243wayne1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I can see the reason for the lawsuit. I thought it WAS Wolfman Jack!

    • @mikemichaud5578
      @mikemichaud5578 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He sounds exactly like uncle Si on duck dynasty

    • @midsouthexpress
      @midsouthexpress 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikemichaud5578 He even does the HEY!! like uncle Si does!

  • @cameraman655
    @cameraman655 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When it was first opened in the mid-70s, it was a marvel, a state of the art facility in a relatively decent and affluent area of town, I was 8 at the time. What a difference 15 years made. Other malls opened up siphoning off business, the city of Houston annexed the area so that the city bus line could expand into the northern suburbs, this is when the decline began.

  • @MissAngie-bq3fw
    @MissAngie-bq3fw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such memories, my ex husband and our children, went there a lot., in the nineties my children are grown now, of course , my children and I live n Colorado now, wow so many years ago❤

  • @Karmy.
    @Karmy. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    and I thought Rolling Acres Mall was a sketchy mall when it was open...

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      This mall is definitely the sketchiest I've been to, and it makes Iverson look like Disney.

    • @Karmy.
      @Karmy. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sal wonder how it compares to Eastland Center Mall in Harper Woods, MI?

    • @meanqueenvvvvv
      @meanqueenvvvvv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Karmy. anything in Detroit would be a deathtrap as far as I"m concerened. i"m surprised the Lions are still there. I keep waiting for North Dakota to offer to buy them out with all that oil money.

    • @Karmy.
      @Karmy. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @jdslyman true

    • @haydensteder7348
      @haydensteder7348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @jdslyman cool info

  • @valenciasmith3608
    @valenciasmith3608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Good history of this mall. I live here and I stopped going to this mall years ago after New York and Company was moving out of that mall. That woman being shot at Body Luxuries I remember that and it's so grim to even go inside now. They just need to shut the mall down and put something else up. It smells and reeks of old house now.

    • @MrCalverino
      @MrCalverino 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember that incident too

    • @rblair1000
      @rblair1000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vee Orange I just moved to houston what side you on

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coca Cola has apparently brought the property so it'll FINALLY be closed in Spring 2020!

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrCalverino Me too. Alot of Houstonians were furious. Petitions to shut the Mall down went up too.

    • @andrew881000
      @andrew881000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vee Orange haven’t I seen you on mocospace before?

  • @larryll7883
    @larryll7883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

  • @salvadortamayo4246
    @salvadortamayo4246 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hey, fellow Sal here, and native Houstonian, i remember back in the late 90s/early 00s that this place still had good foot traffic. But slowly watching it die is just wild to witness. I now work in the Greenspoint area, i make it a point to never stop there for gas. Its the wild west there. Shame it had to go that route.

  • @candysmith8724
    @candysmith8724 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    For as long as I can remember, Greenspoint Mall was nicknamed Gunspoint Mall. I would never go to this place for my own safety. Not a good area of town. West Oaks Mall in west Houston used to be a great mall I grew up going to and now it's a crap mall too. Sharpstown Mall is just as bad as Greenspoint imo. On the other hand, It's nice that Memorial City Mall was revitalized...I grew up going to this one too. Now it's still a great mall to shop at. Town N Country Mall - 3 stories was a hot spot too for shopping in the 80's, now it's torn down and redone as City Centre...beautiful area with outdoor shopping venue. It's a great place to dine, shop and gorgeous hotels. Thanks for the video...I forgot about some of those stores - Joskes, Foleys, Mervyns.

    • @gurugee2112
      @gurugee2112 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Don't forget Northline Mall.

    • @adriananoelle4699
      @adriananoelle4699 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Guru Gee It’s no longer there though.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I lived in Mission Bend/Alief from 2004-2015. The West Oaks, used to be a fantastic Outlet Mall that went to shit in 2008 after a Crooked,CORRUPT RE Manager brought it as a Tax Evasion Scheme. The Owner also allowed Saudis to take over and ran ALL of the Best Businesses out of there. For 7 LONG Years, New Stores would come open up, but only be open for 6 months and then move out. 2012 was even WORSE. Dumbass FORCED the Alamo(The MAIN Thing Keeping The Mall AFLOAT) to close 8 months too early in order to replace it with the STUPID ASS Toby Keith's Restaurant. Despite Opening The Reagal Edwards 21, it couldn't carry the same Level of the Revenue Stream The Alamo Drafthouse did. To add insult to Injury, the Renovation Schedule and Budget for The Restaurant fell WAY behind schedule, and opened 11 months LATE. Unsurprisingly, Toby Keith's Restaurants filed for Chapter 7 Bankruptcy in November 2013 and the Restaurant imploded rather badly. It closed within a month.
      FINALLY, in June 2017, the RE Manager was convicted of Multiple counts of Tax Evasion and Real Estate Fraud. He's serving a 10 year Prison Sentence.
      As for Sharpstown, it started falling apart in the Late 80s.

  • @shootloadrepeat
    @shootloadrepeat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I worked for KBR some time ago, I remember going through Greenspoint mall for the inprocessing. KBR had leased a whole section/anchor to host the inprocessing of tens of thousands of people from all over the world who would go on to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan to support the GWOT effort as contractors. I did the inprocessing twice. Once in 2004 and once in 2008. I also grew up going to this mall.

  • @luissdstuff6381
    @luissdstuff6381 5 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Wow just watching this gave not good vibes. It might be better if you went with a friend. There's safety in numbers. And I did see those dudes following you. I'd get nervous and leave immediately. But a great video!

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It was...sketchy...but thanks for watching!!

    • @bryanhernandez7557
      @bryanhernandez7557 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wouldve confronted them. "You looking for trouble?"

  • @rrios2596
    @rrios2596 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was the mall to go to back in the 80's during my high school years. I have fond memories of going to the movies and shopping at Foleys with my Grandmother. So to see how the mall has slowly deteriorated is so sad.

  • @John-gu4rw
    @John-gu4rw ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greenapoint was a premier mall in its day. I have many fond memories there from the 80s. In its later, worser, days Houston Police had to open a substation in the mall because of the crime/ gang activity there.

  • @markmelendez1029
    @markmelendez1029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Greenspoint was a high end area in the early 80's , every one wanted to live there at one time. To many apartments were built around that mall.

  • @Supercali506
    @Supercali506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember shopping at Greenspoint mall as a teenager and young adult. The bad mall at the time was called the Northline mall further up the freeway closer to Houston. My favorite clothes store was the ‘Go Around’. I am now 60 years old and haven’t stepped foot in Greenspoint Mall for at least 30 years even though I pass it regularly on my way to downtown Houston. Love your video. Brings back so many memories.

    • @sal
      @sal  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much for watching and sharing these memories! Make sure to sub, tons more content coming!

    • @sal
      @sal  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for watching and sharing these memories! Make sure to sub, tons more content coming!

  • @velvetice100
    @velvetice100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Galleria is slowing turning into Gunspoint!

  • @pigtailsboy
    @pigtailsboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    You know what freaks out someone following you. Running full tilt at them with out letting up. I don't think someone would want to wait and find out why a single person was chasing them.

  • @royalcrow1900
    @royalcrow1900 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wow this was well done! Best dead mall video I've seen - you got a new subscriber. Native Houstonian here, always knew it as "gunspoint" mall - I've never been inside though. I grew up in the 80s - going to Memorial City (before it went kaput and then remade fancy), Town & Country (during it's 2 or 3 Halycon years mid-80s before it went bust), and sometimes, Northwest Mall - RIP - which is probably the saddest mall in all of Houston.

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks so much, Anne! I would’ve loved so ouch to have seen this mall in its prime...

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean Northline?

  • @TheEdumicator
    @TheEdumicator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I went to high school in Spring from '84 to '88. My family would watch movies at Greenspoint. My friends and I would spend time at the arcade. Going to the mall was a great time. This is depressing. Across the way was a restaurant called Fajitas. That was a special occasion for my family. There was a barbecue joint near by that was fantastic. I hate to think of it as a crime area now. Thanks for the video, Sal!

  • @christianpervert525
    @christianpervert525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All the "bad elements" from Gunspoint are now frequenting Willowbrook Mall off 249. They need to keep Gunspoint open so they keep all "those people" there.

  • @exkelsior1486
    @exkelsior1486 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My dad was at the opening! My mom told me a story about when my brother was a baby at that foley's. When she was trying to take care of my infant brother, my older brother and sister were running around playing hide and seek in the clothes. She was really mad at them and told them to stop while trying to clean up their messes. They ignore her and all of a sudden knock over a whole rack of clothes. She immediately just grabbed all of them and got the hell out. "We can never come back here again." haha. They are all close to 40 now.

  • @brianhenley2628
    @brianhenley2628 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    NOOOOO! That is not our Gallery Furniture. This is Houston, TX, not Georgia. We have no Wolfman, but a Mattress Mack who consistently gives back to the community that made his family rich.
    Gunspoint is what people scared of urban legends call Greenspoint. In the 90s there was drug and gang crime, but regular people could live their life just like anywhere else. It wasn't worse than the rest of Houston. It was originally a nice "masterplanned" community that had very little actual planning. The people eventually got scared and abandoned the area but I loved it there, never felt safer than I did then, and made over $1k a week at that Bennigan's.
    Going sightseeing at a "dead mall" in a perceived dangerous area, checking abandoned area and marked restricted areas, then worrying about a couple guys that you notice in front of you multiple times but never approached you, much less committed a crime, is trying to create drama that didn't happen.

  • @melrose9252
    @melrose9252 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I remember when the mall opened. It had a Victoria Station near by and a Piccadilly Cafeteria. I saw Star Wars there. A lot of fond memories.

  • @jadedjuggalo420
    @jadedjuggalo420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    There was a story years ago about people hiding under vehicles and knifing customers on the ankle/leg and greenspoint mall

    • @avivagodfrey
      @avivagodfrey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      We had a similar story at one of the malls in north Georgia - local boys proving their way into gangs would hide under cars of single women and slice their angles when they stopped to unlock their cars. They further said when the woman reached down to check her foot they'd grab her hand and cut off her pinky, but this is me hoping that was just urban legend fodder. TTvTT

    • @RedForeman
      @RedForeman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Aviva Godfrey wtf sick bastards what gang was this??? Why the hell would you even do that do they ever think about if someone randomly stabbed their moms for practically nothing

    • @avivagodfrey
      @avivagodfrey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RedForeman Dunno. Heard it through the grapevine while I was living in north Georgia. The used syringes being hidden in the clothing racks at the local Walmart spooked me more. News over rumors. =v=;

    • @durwoodrobison7800
      @durwoodrobison7800 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember those stories as well.

    • @meowpower08
      @meowpower08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I heard this about the gangs we have here in Canada. I’m pretty sure it was just an urban myth to scare people

  • @SETX_Sirens_and_Rail_02
    @SETX_Sirens_and_Rail_02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That man from the Gallery Furniture commercial is still going today! I hear him still advertising their low prices every time I tune to a Houston radio station.

  • @seidyyl
    @seidyyl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Whenever I go to Greenspoint mall , it feels like I’m in a back room

    • @capn_l
      @capn_l 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I used to go here when i was younger so it was already dead but i made "some" memories, esp with my school

  • @ChrisPopkin
    @ChrisPopkin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    @5:50 the cinematic background music slowly transitions into echoing mall music, and then Sal talks about this mall as if it is a poem.
    Just found your channel, and it's incredibly interesting and satisfying to watch. Thanks for the uploads!

    • @sal
      @sal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks so much for watching!!!!

  • @darrylsdaughtersbake6108
    @darrylsdaughtersbake6108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Wow thank you for this. One of my best memories of this mall. I graduated from Eisenhower high school in Acres Homes, my Biology teacher Mrs. Brown held a fashion show here every year I was in it in 1997. I grew up in Greenspoint on Imperial Valley. Yes spent lots of allowance money there. Slowly the name brand stores moved out. By the time I was in 11th grade all they sold was “hootchie clothes”. Lol. A few name brand franchises stayed by 2000 I was working inside the mall at Lerners now known as New York and Company. By night I walked down to Fredricks of Hollywood. It’s crazy but I was never scared. I even rode Metro each night all the way to MLK on the south side. God really watched over me. The area never recovered from the 90s crack epidemic if you ask me. Then by 2006 many New Orleans residents evacuated to the area fleeing Hurricane Katrina. Not knowing the neighborhood would engulf them too. Now in my late thirties I often pass by our old Greenspoint apartment and smile because we made it out. We survived.

    • @trentpettit6336
      @trentpettit6336 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do you remember the AppleTree supermarket which was at the intersection of Greens Road and Imperial Valley, which closed in 1992?