Yunaka: hey Ike watch me do the grouchy Soren. Soren: Stop making an impression after me. Yunaka: "everybody is an idiot except for me and Ike" Soren: well it's true.
Man, having him in this game feels almost too good to be true. They really nailed his personality down so well with these bite-sized conversations. He’s snarky and blunt, but never cruel. And there are a few bonds where you see his softer and more genuine side (Anna, Veyle, Mauvier, Vander, Pandreo, etc). The VA nailed these lines.
Disagree. “I have yet to see even a hint of a good idea come out of you.” “I’m too preoccupied with minding my own business. You should try it.” “If you have the energy to wag your chin, then maybe you should be training harder.” These are people who are just trying to be friendly or sometimes literally just talking to the guy. That’s not blunt, that’s just rude.
@@chrisc4208 I have zero sympathy for people who keep trying to convince him to be someone he's not. i think the "minding my business" line in particular was a perfectly appropriate verbal parry.
He isn't as mean as people think he is. He actually has some nice dialogue, but he doesn't tolerate foolishness. I think his snarkiest reactions are what most of us would honestly say (or at least think) if someone came up to us telling us to smile more or asking for praise or something.
@@vivil2533 Yeah, considering the psychological and physical abuse he endured growing up, he can't really be blamed for being so ill-adjusted at first. That's why I like his arc so much - he grows as a character and learns to let go of the bitterness. People like to dismiss him as a racist, but considering that he was a victim of violent racism, himself, it's kind of a wonder that he was able to let go of his hatred of the laguz. Plus, a lot of people stopped at PoR and never paid attention to Radiant Dawn.
@@shinyhoarder I don't think he let go of the bitterness too much, unfortunately. That, and he never really stopped being racist, just less of a dick about and less up-front. Again, considering his circumstances, this is understandable, even if it isn't excusable.
@@MrGksarathy it takes a long time to truly heal. So unless we get a new sequel we will likely never see a Soren who has fully recovered from the pain. I guess they could just throw one into fe heroes, but that would be incredibly unsatisfying. There also just aren't alot of supports in PoR.or Radient Dawn So we dont get alot of dialog from him
@MrGksarathy In RD, he treats the laguz the same as he does beorc, though. I think it could be said that even if he doesn't trust the laguz, he now trusts them the same as he does beorc, which is still not a lot.
Soren's default snarkiness makes his sweet moments even sweeter. I love how he's like an exasperated grandson with Lindon, and how he actually smiles when talking to Anna and Vander.
28:29 I genuinely like this one. Soren's reply is very simple but it feels good to hear some common sense in a game where almost every character is quirky.
That’s kind of how all FE games treat it. Maybe it’s just me but it’s hard to take FE wars seriously with all the strange character designs, colored hair, and dumb weapons. Everyone looks too nice for me to take the setting seriously. I guess I just can’t take anime too seriously.
@@big3201 it's different in different games. Tellius has a lot going on and many impactful moments and discussion of cruelty from the victors, etc etc, Engage war is like weenie hut Jr in comparison 🤣
@@LyrinaeSings Yeah but like I said I personally can’t bring myself to take it seriously because of how FE presents itself. If I want a serious discussion on war Fire Emblem isn’t really the place. I like the FE aesthetic, but it really doesn’t lend itself to serious storytelling. It lends itself to something wackier. 3H is kind of an exception as everyone there has sort of standard uniforms but with their own personal flair.
Soren is nice to assets, like the one that gives you weapons of wars. (Also what happened canonically in the games. He was flirty with the trader to get good stuffs, and to keep her from jumping at Ike - which isnt him being jealous. Soren found that quite funny and Ike begged him to help)
@@Erinyes Best way to describe Soren is cold but not cruel. He’s very logical and doesn’t mix his words. He even shows kindness in his own strange way.
Some of my favourite lines: 6:00 "Some points of improvements for you from the last battle. You should... Are you even listening?" 32:49 "I am not in a bad mood. This is just how I am." 21:59 " Your experiences intrigue me. May I Inquire about the situation in each region?" 33:43 "Have you considered simply never going outside?"
Personal favorites: 6:34 "I don't recall asking for your advice." 10:29 "I'm too preoccupied with minding my own business. You should try it." 17:35 "I am perfectly happy with the expression I have."
@@Seddyhere I don't blame you. I'm not proud to admit that I dropped 160 just to have the official version. Emulation isn't tough in fact that's how I played the first few maps of the game originally but you gotta have a computer that can run it well cause otherwise GameCube games have this awful lag
OMG, I hadn't realized it's Kyle, but knowing it's him makes me love Soren more! Kyle is great when he is allowed to work in lower registers, like when 9S goes all angry and growly.
Based on what I've noticed, Soren's behavior falls into 3 categories when talking to everyone: Amiable, tolerant, or dismissive/harsh. Amiable: like with Princess Timerra because she kept Ike's ring safe. Tolerant: like with Alear. Dismissive/Harsh: Like with Goldmary.
It is very much like him. His upbringing until Ike found him was very harsh, so he naturally tends to be very cold and distrustful unless it comes to Ike or his current army.
@@5h3nn0ng Nah, even Citrinne he finds it hard to work with people who are too pure of heart as well in his own words so you can argue he actually likes Citrinne but like Ike can get irritated when they do always the right thing. Such as the one time when deciding if they should turn Elincia over or not
I like how Soren is softer towards Timerra and he's actually willing to talk about something other than battle. As a side note, the one with Vander where he appreciates the compliment for his direct approach is also neat.
I like how much Soren got teased on over his Ike-shipping; Especially figuring out the meat recipe. As for the amicability with Anna, I wonder if it's tied to how eager Soren was to indulge the shopkeep in PoR over what Ike likes after he accepted the Hammerne Staff out of her (which IS a high quality item for the war effort)? Though I found the most touching to be the reference to Oscar, when it comes to his cooking talent.
There is no edidence that Soren is gay or straight. Some people say that Soren is 'gay' cause ' Soren cried at the ending of RD and Ike consults him'. And this is someposed to be ''the reason'' that Soren is 'gay. Which is really ridiculous. My man Soren was a victim of violent racism all his life. But there was only one person who gave him respect as a person (Ike). That's why he respects Ike Shipping is fine, but don't try to make it a 'fact'.
@@trueblade3636 I didn't, if you bothered to actually read what I wrote. Maybe don't make up a "fact" out of a strawman you made up. I only ever allude to the _teasing_ of that shipping. But even IF he is a victim of hate crimes, what's to stop him from ALSO being gay or bisexual anyway? You're being awfully defensive about a _common speculation_ that in no way, shape, or form, alters his character, his lore, and his cherished appreciation for Ike; Because it wouldn't nor shouldn't. Maybe read the room a bit here.
@@MrMarket1987 I read your comment well. And I explicitly said that shipping is fine. But *some people* state this a fact. There is no in game evidence that Soren is gay, bisexual, heterosexual, or whatsoever.
@@trueblade3636 Except there's more in the games to sprinkle him towards Bi or Gay than Straight though, so you're not even right about that one; You still act as though it's this great leap to speculate he would be. Do you know how common queerness is within the entire Animal Kingdom? Cause it's pretty common. Not sure why you have to come to my comment making a fuss about it.
I find it kinda weird we canonically know soren was given an energy drop. Out of everything to do, who canonically used stat boosters is an odd bit of lore.
Amusingly, since radiant dawn used strength to determine the weight of weapon you could wield, giving Soren an energy drop actually did have SOME purpose
As if most Tellius characters didn't have a defining quirk. Also, in the case of RD, it might have helped for characters to have more memorable quirks for how little development any of them got.
@@MrGksarathy Or in the case of Astrid character regression. Going from strong independent albeit naïve noblewoman to fawning over Makalov. Only thing she really gets as a plus is you find out who she was arranged to wed that led her to entering knighthood instead, and unarguably it was the best call she could make because while Makalov is Makalov, at least he’s not some bearded power hungry oaf. Also Aran definitely needed the most development. Poor guy was the only one to have generic models instead of everyone else’s unique spins on their class’s outfits.
I've never played the game he is from, but this guy is very funny. I have had similar reactions to some of the clowns in the FE games I've played. Though... idk why, but he's giving me the "I HAVE a boyfriend" vibes in some of these convos lol
@@glitchyglitchy3925 Theres even a story conversation in PoR where Gatrie asks Ike what kind of girls he’s into and he just kinda… gives him an annoyed look and walks away lol
No, you see: Alfred is actually speaking in sign language because he heard from Ike that Soren used to not speak, but Soren just responds normally because he’s insulted by it /s
Soren's interactions here really exemplify the differences in personality and demeanor between older Fire Emblem characters and newer ones, eh? even when characters in the older games had idiosyncrasies or foibles that made them eccentric or unusual, they were essentially never as prominent and amplified as they are for characters in games like Awakening, Fates, and Engage
@@MrGksarathy I agree with you in regards to Ilyana. she's one of the more egregious, transparent examples of "I have one personality trait!" characters from Fire Emblem games. however, I do believe that there's a clear gap between older Fire Emblem characters--who tend to be rather more grounded and realistic, as much as that is possible in a video game fantasy setting--and newer ones, who tend to much more vivid and defined by a magnified personality trait. neither style of characterization is inherently better, but I do think there's an apparent difference between the two
Not really. There were eccentric characters often. Karel for example is just a modern FE character, he would've been hated if all his dialogue was properly voiced and given attention to.
@@alacritical7873 Fair enough, though I still think older FE characters were largely structured around one or two core traits, even if they weren't as exaggerated. Still, Ilyana's existence, among other characters, is proof that both types of characterization have been there for a while and often coexisted.
@@nuibaba280 I do agree that older Fire Emblem titles are not totally devoid of more eccentric characters; I just think they were far less common, overall. this does, of course, have the consequence of many older Fire Emblem characters being less vibrant and perhaps more dull at first glance, as they have more of their personality unveiled in their supports than anywhere else. I think it's largely just a stylistic shift as time has passed by, and I imagine that shift was accelerated by the tremendous success of Awakening
@@user-mg1pj2vt9l your name is like a bot lol I dont care about fictional shipping for your own pleasure. I dislike saying that Soren & Ike are in love with each other, which is never said in the games. In fact, that would be disrespectful to both gay and straight people, but that is just my opinion
@@zhiroujiang4006 Soren lugging around a basic Wind tome for the whole of PoR despite his amazing stats because it's the only thing his noodle arms can lift
@@hjt091 At least he can promote into using wind/elwind tome without penalty, other games with separate wind tomes had people using wind tomes regardless (or just ignoring AS) since there wasn't a way to mitigate weight (for tomes in thracia) and they were the lightest.
By the first impression, he can come off as a stick in the mud ( the nicest way I can come up with describing his jerkassery), but as you get to know him, it's not without reason, hell I can honestly sympathize his methods, more than I care to admit. Be that as it may, this maybe the petty side of me talking, but I can't stand those who roughly speaks their mind more than me.
As a strategist, he’s just a realist. He comes of as a jerk, but he’s just direct in voicing his thoughts on things. Also, most likely because he’s a realist tactician, he doesn’t take too fondly to stupidity or foolishness. His extremely terrible and harsh childhood may have also made him a little jaded and spiteful.
Game relax. He's already my favorite character ever, you don't need to go this hard Him telling Boucheron to be a NEET and then suggesting he get a person to hold his hand outside is perfection
I'm having a hard time trying to beat Sorens' paralogue chapter on hard, too many reinforcements. I'm around chapter 17, so Idk if I'm ready for it yet.
Yunaka: hey Ike watch me do the grouchy Soren.
Soren: Stop making an impression after me.
Yunaka: "everybody is an idiot except for me and Ike"
Soren: well it's true.
Even more proof that Ike and Soren are husband and wife.
@@TheSuperCasual2914 Ike's the wife lol.
@@brandonnguyen6718 LMAO
Lke +Soren= husband and husband
Soren giving _zero_ sh*ts when it comes to Goldmary is amazing.
Buttering up Aimee was more than enough for Soren for one lifetime. He was not going to deal with this again.
She is my favourite in engage, but seeing her like this hilarious.
You could write a sitcom about these fools it’s hilarious 🤣
I would not give a shit about her either
Goldmary: Do you have feelings?
Soren: Shut the f**k up and be smart with strategy, miss.
Soren clapping back at Rosado with a "Who asked." in their support is just the funniest thing.
Man, having him in this game feels almost too good to be true. They really nailed his personality down so well with these bite-sized conversations. He’s snarky and blunt, but never cruel. And there are a few bonds where you see his softer and more genuine side (Anna, Veyle, Mauvier, Vander, Pandreo, etc). The VA nailed these lines.
Disagree. “I have yet to see even a hint of a good idea come out of you.” “I’m too preoccupied with minding my own business. You should try it.” “If you have the energy to wag your chin, then maybe you should be training harder.” These are people who are just trying to be friendly or sometimes literally just talking to the guy. That’s not blunt, that’s just rude.
@@chrisc4208 I have zero sympathy for people who keep trying to convince him to be someone he's not. i think the "minding my business" line in particular was a perfectly appropriate verbal parry.
He isn't as mean as people think he is. He actually has some nice dialogue, but he doesn't tolerate foolishness. I think his snarkiest reactions are what most of us would honestly say (or at least think) if someone came up to us telling us to smile more or asking for praise or something.
I would imagine this is at least post PoR Soren if not post radiant dawn, he mellows out throughout the story.
@@vivil2533 Yeah, considering the psychological and physical abuse he endured growing up, he can't really be blamed for being so ill-adjusted at first. That's why I like his arc so much - he grows as a character and learns to let go of the bitterness. People like to dismiss him as a racist, but considering that he was a victim of violent racism, himself, it's kind of a wonder that he was able to let go of his hatred of the laguz. Plus, a lot of people stopped at PoR and never paid attention to Radiant Dawn.
@@shinyhoarder I don't think he let go of the bitterness too much, unfortunately. That, and he never really stopped being racist, just less of a dick about and less up-front. Again, considering his circumstances, this is understandable, even if it isn't excusable.
@@MrGksarathy it takes a long time to truly heal. So unless we get a new sequel we will likely never see a Soren who has fully recovered from the pain.
I guess they could just throw one into fe heroes, but that would be incredibly unsatisfying.
There also just aren't alot of supports in PoR.or Radient Dawn So we dont get alot of dialog from him
@MrGksarathy In RD, he treats the laguz the same as he does beorc, though. I think it could be said that even if he doesn't trust the laguz, he now trusts them the same as he does beorc, which is still not a lot.
This man is having none of this clown army lol
Except the kids…and Vander
Yeah Ike and Soren are just going “great , we have to be spirt guardian to these noble clowns”
His loss.
Soren has the tech to reconstruct Goldmary
_He can fix her._
i dont get the joke
@@princesscat Goldmary being a narcissist starting to take criticism is something narcissists can't even do, so he can fix her.
Soren's default snarkiness makes his sweet moments even sweeter. I love how he's like an exasperated grandson with Lindon, and how he actually smiles when talking to Anna and Vander.
I find it heartwarming that he smiles when talking to Anna
He knows how important it is to be in a merchant’s good books.
Gotta get those discounts.
@@Danchamp07 he's had far too much experience saving ike from a certain clingy merchant
@@swagmaster699 She is exactly who I meant :)
he is normally nice with children
"Unless you're Ike. You get no sympathy from me"
-soren
28:29 I genuinely like this one. Soren's reply is very simple but it feels good to hear some common sense in a game where almost every character is quirky.
Soren toning down the snark when he's talking to Timerra 😂 I guess you're going places if you're taking care of Ike's ring.
Soren: war is hell
Engage characters: treat The War ™️ like a quirky little 9-5 office job
Kiragi: War is heck!!!
That’s kind of how all FE games treat it. Maybe it’s just me but it’s hard to take FE wars seriously with all the strange character designs, colored hair, and dumb weapons. Everyone looks too nice for me to take the setting seriously.
I guess I just can’t take anime too seriously.
@@big3201 it's different in different games. Tellius has a lot going on and many impactful moments and discussion of cruelty from the victors, etc etc, Engage war is like weenie hut Jr in comparison 🤣
@@LyrinaeSings Yeah but like I said I personally can’t bring myself to take it seriously because of how FE presents itself. If I want a serious discussion on war Fire Emblem isn’t really the place. I like the FE aesthetic, but it really doesn’t lend itself to serious storytelling. It lends itself to something wackier.
3H is kind of an exception as everyone there has sort of standard uniforms but with their own personal flair.
@@tommytran7409I was thinking the same thing 😭😭😭
Soren is downright pleasant to Anna. And "pleasant" is a word I never thought I'd associate with him in all these years.
Soren is nice to assets, like the one that gives you weapons of wars. (Also what happened canonically in the games. He was flirty with the trader to get good stuffs, and to keep her from jumping at Ike - which isnt him being jealous. Soren found that quite funny and Ike begged him to help)
@@Erinyes
Best way to describe Soren is cold but not cruel. He’s very logical and doesn’t mix his words. He even shows kindness in his own strange way.
Some of my favourite lines:
6:00 "Some points of improvements for you from the last battle. You should... Are you even listening?"
32:49 "I am not in a bad mood. This is just how I am."
21:59 " Your experiences intrigue me. May I Inquire about the situation in each region?"
33:43 "Have you considered simply never going outside?"
Personal favorites:
6:34 "I don't recall asking for your advice."
10:29 "I'm too preoccupied with minding my own business. You should try it."
17:35 "I am perfectly happy with the expression I have."
"Not so fast! Tell me more"
Careful Soren, your bias is showing XD
Ooof. Fogado complimenting his Branded mark and Soren’s reaction. I felt that one. 😢
I know right! The delivery makes it really clear how confused/ pleasantly surprised he is too
So THIS is why people love Soren so much, I think I'm slowly converting
You should play path of radiance and radiant dawn. He's definitely a no nonsense character
@Grundy Peebo I really want to but I don't want to sell my soul for a physical copy and I'm not great with emulation
@@Seddyhere truer words have never been spoken my friend
@@Seddyhere I don't blame you. I'm not proud to admit that I dropped 160 just to have the official version. Emulation isn't tough in fact that's how I played the first few maps of the game originally but you gotta have a computer that can run it well cause otherwise GameCube games have this awful lag
Soren in my opinion, he can be sassy sometimes
2:48 if only you knew who your father was Soren you’d flip your shit
Oh I think he knows. He's the only character with no dialogue with him in his fight.
Soren: Faith is…not for me.
Translation: “I helped kill a friggin goddess”
"Helped" is an overstatement
To think the man who does the voice of Soren (Kyle Mccarley) also does Alm and the Gatekeeper from Three Houses, mindblowing ngl
THAT'S KYLE?!
@@luminous8815 Yep, that's Kyle alright
Doesn't suit him. Idk if por or rd had him with a talking cutscene but the voice really doesn't suit him
OMG, I hadn't realized it's Kyle, but knowing it's him makes me love Soren more! Kyle is great when he is allowed to work in lower registers, like when 9S goes all angry and growly.
So that’s why we’re not getting Alm…
Based on what I've noticed, Soren's behavior falls into 3 categories when talking to everyone: Amiable, tolerant, or dismissive/harsh. Amiable: like with Princess Timerra because she kept Ike's ring safe. Tolerant: like with Alear. Dismissive/Harsh: Like with Goldmary.
Amiable is when either : a. The army is training for the war or b. When it involves Ike in some way
It is very much like him. His upbringing until Ike found him was very harsh, so he naturally tends to be very cold and distrustful unless it comes to Ike or his current army.
@@5h3nn0ng Nah, even Citrinne he finds it hard to work with people who are too pure of heart as well in his own words so you can argue he actually likes Citrinne but like Ike can get irritated when they do always the right thing. Such as the one time when deciding if they should turn Elincia over or not
32:00 Soren the housewife
its kinda sweet Soren gives a small smile when talking to Anna, guess he can be nice when he wants to be.
He's nice to merchants so he can get better deals from them, he outright flirts with Aimee in Radiant Dawn
@@hjt091 He also knows the straight forward mindset which is mutually shared.
I like how Soren is softer towards Timerra and he's actually willing to talk about something other than battle.
As a side note, the one with Vander where he appreciates the compliment for his direct approach is also neat.
even with Fogato too he’s less mean to him then the others. Not as willing to talk as with Timmera but u can definitely tell he has respect for him.
@@enric0392
“I Worry about your future” while he didn’t smile that definitely shows a level of care and respect.
This is just 25+ minutes of Soren roasting people
It’s nice to have a lot of conversations for soren. This game alone has 18x as many as he had before this game.
I like how much Soren got teased on over his Ike-shipping; Especially figuring out the meat recipe.
As for the amicability with Anna, I wonder if it's tied to how eager Soren was to indulge the shopkeep in PoR over what Ike likes after he accepted the Hammerne Staff out of her (which IS a high quality item for the war effort)?
Though I found the most touching to be the reference to Oscar, when it comes to his cooking talent.
He's a homie for Ike but I like how it can go either way.
There is no edidence that Soren is gay or straight.
Some people say that Soren is 'gay' cause ' Soren cried at the ending of RD and Ike consults him'. And this is someposed to be ''the reason'' that Soren is 'gay.
Which is really ridiculous. My man Soren was a victim of violent racism all his life. But there was only one person who gave him respect as a person (Ike). That's why he respects Ike
Shipping is fine, but don't try to make it a 'fact'.
@@trueblade3636 I didn't, if you bothered to actually read what I wrote. Maybe don't make up a "fact" out of a strawman you made up. I only ever allude to the _teasing_ of that shipping.
But even IF he is a victim of hate crimes, what's to stop him from ALSO being gay or bisexual anyway? You're being awfully defensive about a _common speculation_ that in no way, shape, or form, alters his character, his lore, and his cherished appreciation for Ike; Because it wouldn't nor shouldn't. Maybe read the room a bit here.
@@MrMarket1987 I read your comment well. And I explicitly said that shipping is fine. But *some people* state this a fact. There is no in game evidence that Soren is gay, bisexual, heterosexual, or whatsoever.
@@trueblade3636 Except there's more in the games to sprinkle him towards Bi or Gay than Straight though, so you're not even right about that one; You still act as though it's this great leap to speculate he would be. Do you know how common queerness is within the entire Animal Kingdom? Cause it's pretty common. Not sure why you have to come to my comment making a fuss about it.
Rosado: **exists**
Soren: I'm the sassier one, bitch.
Damn!😂
Petition to let Soren say the F word
That would require Soren to spam "FOR REAL!?" in his dialogue first.
the S word with a hard N
@@XellosNiWe’re talking about Kyle McCarley. Not Max Mittleman, man.😅
I hope the next update fix bugs for Alfred’s conversation with Soren. Both languages are bugged.
I love how his mouth legit doesn't even move, almost as if it was done on purpose. This bug has meme potential.
I find this pretty funny, but it for some reason feels normal 😅
I love how Soren mentions taxes.
Now I'm actually glad he won this years CYL. Looking forward to intentionally summoning him now
So many of these are GOLD, I love Soren and his VA so much.
I find it kinda weird we canonically know soren was given an energy drop. Out of everything to do, who canonically used stat boosters is an odd bit of lore.
And the fact that we have some idea of what it might taste like too? Or at least the fact that it tastes weird
Amusingly, since radiant dawn used strength to determine the weight of weapon you could wield, giving Soren an energy drop actually did have SOME purpose
Probably someone gave him a drop in PoR and picked daggers after his promotion. I know, i did as a newbie...
Somone: breath
Soren:L+Ratio+be smart+no skill+f off
You know Soren just highlights how hard post awakening fire emblems leaned into giving characters quirky and eccentric behavior
As if most Tellius characters didn't have a defining quirk. Also, in the case of RD, it might have helped for characters to have more memorable quirks for how little development any of them got.
@@MrGksarathy
Ilyana being hungry
Gatrie being a womaniser
Shinon being racist
And more....
Malakov being human garbage
@@MrGksarathy Or in the case of Astrid character regression. Going from strong independent albeit naïve noblewoman to fawning over Makalov. Only thing she really gets as a plus is you find out who she was arranged to wed that led her to entering knighthood instead, and unarguably it was the best call she could make because while Makalov is Makalov, at least he’s not some bearded power hungry oaf.
Also Aran definitely needed the most development. Poor guy was the only one to have generic models instead of everyone else’s unique spins on their class’s outfits.
You say that as if Tellius didn't have same types. Meg exists.
Their VAs being married aside, Soren's not being an asshole to Jade is actually cute :3
There’s a lot of married VAs in Engage. For example, (M)Alear and Louis’ VAs and (F)Alear and Kagetsu’s VA.
I've never played the game he is from, but this guy is very funny. I have had similar reactions to some of the clowns in the FE games I've played. Though... idk why, but he's giving me the "I HAVE a boyfriend" vibes in some of these convos lol
The reason he's giving you those vibes is because he does have a boyfriend
@@TheShanicpower You serious or you just playin? I've never played whatever game he's in.
Ike can only have a special ending with Soren and another guy. So a lot of people say Ike and Soren are married or are boyfriends.
@@lostboy3516 It is hilarious to know this because I only know Ike from Smash and yet have always been convinced he is gay.
@@glitchyglitchy3925 Theres even a story conversation in PoR where Gatrie asks Ike what kind of girls he’s into and he just kinda… gives him an annoyed look and walks away lol
I really love the Celine taxes line
31:18
Dont mind me, i'm just saving this for later
ඞ
Oh, what's this timestamp?
...
Of course it is.
Soren is capable of smiling?
@@g6826Yes. But I feel like there’s something I heard…
I have to wonder why Alfred is completely silent in these supports.
Goldmary and Soren.
They're funny.
She's having a mental breakdown because he's making her actually try to gain approval.
Not even Ike got this out of her. XD
The Rosado C is just...an absolute slaughter, lmao
“I don’t recall asking for your advice.”
Alternate Title: Soren roasts (almost) everyone
Man isn’t one for small talk
Soren: I do ok
Soren after seeing Ike: I give this army my all!
looks like there's a bug with Alfred and Soren's support.
Both Japanese and English 😢
No, you see: Alfred is actually speaking in sign language because he heard from Ike that Soren used to not speak, but Soren just responds normally because he’s insulted by it /s
He didn’t deflect Rosado’s compliment about his hair, so that’s something at least?
Soren's interactions here really exemplify the differences in personality and demeanor between older Fire Emblem characters and newer ones, eh? even when characters in the older games had idiosyncrasies or foibles that made them eccentric or unusual, they were essentially never as prominent and amplified as they are for characters in games like Awakening, Fates, and Engage
I think that's more just Soren. You can't tell me that Ilyana's whole character WASN'T just about her insatiable hunger, for example.
@@MrGksarathy I agree with you in regards to Ilyana. she's one of the more egregious, transparent examples of "I have one personality trait!" characters from Fire Emblem games. however, I do believe that there's a clear gap between older Fire Emblem characters--who tend to be rather more grounded and realistic, as much as that is possible in a video game fantasy setting--and newer ones, who tend to much more vivid and defined by a magnified personality trait. neither style of characterization is inherently better, but I do think there's an apparent difference between the two
Not really. There were eccentric characters often. Karel for example is just a modern FE character, he would've been hated if all his dialogue was properly voiced and given attention to.
@@alacritical7873 Fair enough, though I still think older FE characters were largely structured around one or two core traits, even if they weren't as exaggerated. Still, Ilyana's existence, among other characters, is proof that both types of characterization have been there for a while and often coexisted.
@@nuibaba280 I do agree that older Fire Emblem titles are not totally devoid of more eccentric characters; I just think they were far less common, overall. this does, of course, have the consequence of many older Fire Emblem characters being less vibrant and perhaps more dull at first glance, as they have more of their personality unveiled in their supports than anywhere else. I think it's largely just a stylistic shift as time has passed by, and I imagine that shift was accelerated by the tremendous success of Awakening
Soren is pure salty and sass, and I fking love it XD
Soren is the asshole we needed in this game! 😂
I'm just surprised that the first bond convo with Bunet didn't mention food at all, lol
I just like him purely because every single interaction he has with Rosado is just roasting on maximum heat.
34:43 nice reference to Oscar there
11:48 Love is the better word isn’t it🤨
Sounds meaningful enough for him
That was such a bs lie, lol. Literally all he says is how much he dislikes everything... except ike.
Euhm, no?
There is no evidence that Soren is gay or straight?
He is not in love with Ike
@@trueblade3636 I've seen you hate on this ship for years lol
@@user-mg1pj2vt9l your name is like a bot lol
I dont care about fictional shipping for your own pleasure. I dislike saying that Soren & Ike are in love with each other, which is never said in the games. In fact, that would be disrespectful to both gay and straight people, but that is just my opinion
……wait…..who in their right mind would give Soren an energy drop?
In por and Rd a Weapons weight is offset by strength instead of build/con
When Soren has too little strength to hold a frigging book in PoR, witness the power of 5 percent strength growth!
@@zhiroujiang4006 Soren lugging around a basic Wind tome for the whole of PoR despite his amazing stats because it's the only thing his noodle arms can lift
@@hjt091 At least he can promote into using wind/elwind tome without penalty, other games with separate wind tomes had people using wind tomes regardless (or just ignoring AS) since there wasn't a way to mitigate weight (for tomes in thracia) and they were the lightest.
Himself apparently since he is the strategist
You know what I just thought about? FE Engage Ring Pops. They’re probably over there in Japan already though…
Pandreo's support with Soren was nice
Soren is being... nice to Anna of all people.
What lunacy is this!?
It's because the Emblem is made for her
He's nice to Aimee lol. He's cool with to the point merchants because they are easy to get what they want.
He's always nice to merchants. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, and all that. He might even get a discount if he's amicable enough!
@@TimeturnerJ What's cute is Aimee gives him Rexcalibur so his flirtatious charm he works on her actually paid off which is amazing.
By the first impression, he can come off as a stick in the mud ( the nicest way I can come up with describing his jerkassery), but as you get to know him, it's not without reason, hell I can honestly sympathize his methods, more than I care to admit. Be that as it may, this maybe the petty side of me talking, but I can't stand those who roughly speaks their mind more than me.
As a strategist, he’s just a realist. He comes of as a jerk, but he’s just direct in voicing his thoughts on things. Also, most likely because he’s a realist tactician, he doesn’t take too fondly to stupidity or foolishness. His extremely terrible and harsh childhood may have also made him a little jaded and spiteful.
The way Soren knew Alcryst would wipe floor with his a** made me smile :)
Wouldn’t go that far XD but yeah he did seem to be curious of the result
Now if only they put his games on the eshop
Is it just me or are new FE designs straight out of a SquareEnix/DeviantArt fever dream?
4:31
I think I’d also be annoyed if I were a mage called for something so silly as well.
Fell Xenolouge: 17:45 (Ivy)
Basically Soren: if you aren’t my husband, Ike, feck off
Husband? There is no indication that they are in love lol
5:50 Easily my favorite line from Soren in this game.
If you played Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, you will understand Soren’s personality
Lindon knows how to pull the best in soren 😆
Soren has the best supports.
Game relax. He's already my favorite character ever, you don't need to go this hard
Him telling Boucheron to be a NEET and then suggesting he get a person to hold his hand outside is perfection
Soren is just a real one
34:44 omg oscar reference
2:43 confirmation that Soren didn’t find out about his true heritage.
Is there a reason that Alfred's lines aren't voiced, or is it because of the hacking that was done to showcase them?
From what I've seen it seems to be bugged.
As you can see this man is shockingly based
I love how aside from Timerra and Anna, Soren is about completely annoyed with everyone 😅😅
Edit: Well, Vander and sometimes Alear and Veyle too.
He has three moods: amicable, distant, and strict
He was pretty patient with Etie and Celine as well.
32:13 is absolutely hysterical
Everyone talks about the Rosado C rank convo, but I found 6:58 funnier
According to Soren's Fire Emblem Path of Radiance wiki, it says Soren didn't have a very good childhood before the game developed
Soren just ruining people's lives one by one xD
I honestly bet Soren is Mauvier's canon Emblem...
I'm having a hard time trying to beat Sorens' paralogue chapter on hard, too many reinforcements. I'm around chapter 17, so Idk if I'm ready for it yet.
I believe the dlc paralogues scale with what chapter you’re on. So just grind until you feel you can beat it.
IT'S NOT COEPOREAL YOU KNOW
31:18
among us
Soren, you're a real piece of work.........
Piece of work or not, he still is a powerful Emblem. Especially when used by Veyle.
Nah. He’s just a mood.
Soren is such a massive prick
I love it
See, it's stuff like this that I gladly benched and forgot about framme
Oh, and clanne, too. Almost forgot about him as well
I benched framme but maaan my clanne is a beast in the battle field no regrets
@@whispersweetnothingsuwu mage knight clanne kinda solos with levin sword
29:16 nobody mention this line? 😂
Why doesn't Alfred not have any voice lines?
I get that it was a bug, but when did Alfred become silent?!
Questions...
1. What system is this game on?
2. What's up with him? Like, why is he all glowy like Yune's medallion?
1. Nintendo Switch
2. He is an emblem in this game, essentially a spirit who aids them in battle
Rip Alfred I guess, he lost his voice
Bro really said “ “
Thanks legend
I wonder why Alfred's aren't voiced..
The even more mysterious thing about it is that his mouth isn't even animated to move....I'd like to think it was just an oversight of some kind
@@arcanerite7428 I didn't even notice that part. Weird.
Soren is so sassy he made Alfred mute... jk 😅
What happened to Alfred's voice??
Remember people, always pay ur taxes
Why is Alfred silent?
I sense a Fun Killer