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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- reprisal is very balanced
You don't actually need Eliwood S ring for this: Madeline with Camilla or Sigurd can use Swap to get Nel into the Goddess Dance range, and then she can get repositioned out by Hortensia/whoever else. Nel can then get repositioned by Boucheron/whoever else after she contracts, and Alear can get healed by Seadall having Quality Time. Sadly this does not leave a spot for Boucheron Physic...
Units:
- Alear: Reprisal+, Sword Power 5, Roy bond 20, here to kick Nil's ass
- Timerra & Corrin: inflicts Draconic Aura and Racket of Solm reduces crit chance
- Ivy & Soren: Anima Focus puts a -3 defense debuff when you attack with a fire tome. Worth noting that using Cataclysm inflicts a -20 Hit debuff too which we don't want since Nil has to hit Alear, and he can start dodging with this
- Seadall is Seadall
- Goldmary rallies with Chrom, this can be anyone if you don't chain attack
- Lapis has Byleth for the Str+4 buff, this can be any other backup
- Veyle has the Alfonse ring equipped to synegize with her personal skill. If you don't have that, you can compensate by using a covert with Marth, they inflict poison with Divine Speed (if you don't do a Boucheron meme and heal with Seadall Quality Time you have a deploy spot for this, you can also have Anima Focus on Ivy&Corrin to free up a spot and replace someone with Timerra, as long as she still inflicts her personal skill). Edelgard on Zelestia can reroll the map until you get Claude for Poison Tactic too for another stack. There's a free Goddess Dance spot above Lapis for the last stack, you'll have to rearrange positions of course
There's also a bunch of easy chain attacks that I didn't trigger since they were a waste of time in this video, like giving a Levin Sword to Lapis, Spear on Goldmary, keeping Timerra in range by cantering 2 spaces to the right instead of down, etc
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I'm sorry WHAT
Imagine if NIll said "i am defeated.... BUT I CANT FALL HERE, I MUST TAKE MY RETREAT"
"Give it up! You're surrounded, out of warp staffs, and theres a sword through your chest!"
*proceeds to walk away and come back literally the next chapter
You have invented the metagame for this map, well done :)
Some would say this is optimal?
True meta is normal only because you want to use the characters and classes for the full playthrough in the normal game.
@@MasterStacona I'm on Chapter 8 main game and made it to Chapter 6 of the Xenologue on normal, I am daunted by the task of trying to clear this chapter with so few rings, bonds, supports, and skills, even on normal. I am going to attempt it, but it may be too much and I don't want to waste my time. My only hope is that I have a lot of staff units and the game gives you a bunch of staves so it might be a pain but I could eke out a win. I cleared the Xenologue my first time with an endgame file so I'm not sure if it can be done this early in the main game. REALLY wish you didn't have to clear it each new game for the extra units. I could always come back later to make life easier, but I'd like there to actually be some game left to play to use the new units.
The method in this video is out of the question, I don't have access to Roy. I have Marth, Celica, Sigurd, Michaiah, Tiki, and Edelgard.
@@stenzel27 I just did it yesterday on my new maddening playthrough. It's totally possible and not hard to do it in normal mode at chapter 7 when it's available earliest.
@@arminarlelt7471 That's a relief to hear.
I love the Quality Time Chef's Kiss from Lapice to not take too much damage away from Reprisal+, but also ensuring Alear wouldn't die.
As soon as I saw that you could attack Nil right from the start and deal damage, I knew someone was gonna figure out a way to one turn him.
Congrats, this is awesome.
When I did it dude took 0 damage huh
@@ericx6969 Nil has some sort of modifier to prevent you from dealing damage regularly, but then you give Alear 70+ bonus damage per hit and it all goes to shit.
very nice, this map was super tedious to do normally
I've only done this map on Normal.
the sheer amount of sp needed for all of this, you have my respect.
Damn, people put several hours on beating this hellish map...
I completed a 1 turn on normal but i completely forgot about all the true damage stacking and debuffs you can do. Nice one
this is the best unit ive ever seen. holdout + chip healing is litterally op
This video alone is probably gonna save countless hours of gameplay spent retrying this map
Bro I just beat the boss today and it hours. I played very cautiously and near the end I got the bright idea to debuff Nil with Corrin’s Torrential Roar and (Chrom)Rally Alear and her pair Etie. Before all that I had to constantly kill reinforcements. I legit killed everything on the map except that one corrupted wyvern next to Timerra at the start of the level that just stood there for the majority of the game until the last minute but it was already too late, rallied Alear next to Etie was suddenly overpowered.
Did you know if you let the Corrupted royals be, Nil would end up absorbing their personal skills. Nil stole Sandstorm and the skills the Bros decided to gatekeep.
Very impressive! I knew something like this was possible and it's really cool to see someone actually figuring it out.
Holy shit. And I thought I was smart when I three turned this on Hard..
This is fucking incredible. Props to you, I was REALLY overlooking a lot.
Do tell what you did. I am playing this on Hard. I saves and plan on continuing it tomorrow bit it's making me scratch my head so often.
I’ve got a video on it. The strategy was kinfa similar? Roy!Alear just bruteforcing the boss and me using all the debuffs i could- i didnt realize how good reprisal was as true damage
3 hours shaved to 3 minutes that's nuts
I'm crediting you for this for a video of mine. Because I'll be real, I was not gonna spend 7 hours on one attempt of this map. I had classes to do and couldn't spend this much time for this lmao. Thank you for your genius.
The point-blank Physic to heal only a little bit to keep taking advantage of Reprisal+ while reactivating Hold Out... Magnificent.
You are a GENIUS!!!!!!! ☺️💛💛💛
Alear: "I'm tired of this shitty unit, let's show him a thing or three"
That is insane dude! It took me hours to beat this map on hard.
This has taken me months and I’m still not done with it and you did it in 3 minutes. Thank you for freeing me from any pride that I may have had, and for freeing me from this mortal coil.
very interestingly, you can actually crit Nil w/enough attack power on a engage weapon, even if the display damage is 0(which normally means you can never crit),
meaning you can punch straight through him with crits, probably provided he's debuffed with torrential roar
I wonder if the crits are possible because the damage reduction is a flat 50 and not actually nullifying you or doing actual true 0 damage,
which means crits and buffs+debuffs will work on him very well
That seems to be the case based on a different video I watched. It's definitely intentional, but also deceiving.
Bro this motivated me. I couldn’t get pass this map after hours of trying and gave it up. After seeing this video, you gave me hope now lol
Every time I think I'm pretty good at fire emblem, I see a video like this.
This is why other FE games don't let you have more than one dancer at a time (except when they do)
I have 8 dancer battalions in 3H NG+. Feels like playing with armies of kpop boy/girl band
Wow... that was amazing!
Must! Do! The Fell Xenologue! But need more allies! Need more stats! Need! More! POWAAAAAAAAHHH!!!
So i just found out Seadall had quality time. You didnt need to heal with Bouch
i know but it was funny
Ok, now THIS is impressive. I did beat this map on maddening the normal way and I did have fun, but this just feels so good to watch. Roy's our boy.
Ferb, I think I know what WE'RE doing today!
You are too good
Nil: Has stats out the wazoo
Alear: Haha, Pure Damage go brrr.
I love this game
Thank, can't be bother to try normally, so I'll scuff something like this with some Claude poison gambit included and take this down.
So how does this boss work at the beginning exactly? Do you have to attack it a certain number of times before you can actually damage it or something? I know it's tanky and needs to be debuffed, but is it at all like Nemesis from 3H where you can only damage him from breaking his barrier if you don't beat all 10 elites first?
Ngl I don’t get it either, the sigil clearly says it gives 50 damage reduction and reduces crit chance by 50%. Clearly the crit reduction is working but unless these are actually >50 + Nel’s Def attacks, they should not be this damaging
Edit- on rewatching the video, it does seem like alear is actually achieving around 79 attack with the full setup. Somehow Alear is starting the fight with 49 attack, I’m not sure how
Edit 2: Alear starts the fight that strong because of sword power 5 + push-ups. Theoretically you can actually increase it further with str increasing food iirc. Timerra attacks to apply draconic hex, Ivy attacks to apply def -3 from anima adept, Alear’s first attack is to take damage for reprisal. This setup is not possible without using the dlc emblems
@@chrisc4208
Corrin's Draconic Hex and Soren's Anima Focus (Fire) together gives the boss -7 def and -4 spd.
Rally Spectrum from Chrom and Goddess Dance from Byleth adds 7 str and 3 spd required to double. Reprisal+ adds half of damage taken as damage (+16~17 damage after the first attack, up to 24~25 at 1 HP), while Sword Power adds another 10 atk with sword.
Since Alear is using the enhanced Libération, there's another 15 atk bonus against Nil.
Contract (Veronika's Dance) with a dragon unit also gives +2 all stats.
Veyle's passive adds another 1 damage to adjacent units, and she has Alfonse ring which adds +2 on top of that.
I dunno if Special Dance from Seadall is relevant, but that also adds 3 spd which is good for doubling.
Basically, that's a net gain between 60 attack (worst scenario, rounding down Reprisal+ after the first attack) and 69 attack (nice) and I'm not considering doubling.
@@chrisc4208 Well it's not like a cluttered U.I. and the fact that it's not me playing the game would make this difficult to notice or anything.
Could you be a little bit more of a pretentious douchebag, please?
So veyle gets immunity but not nil, oof?
The game could not end that early
I am so glad I don’t have to play this map anymore
Amazing
God that was satisfying, screw you Rafal lol
With specific inheritance and endgame units it’s possible
Why is nil practically invulnerable on the first sigil
HOLY SHIT WOW
Trying to replicate this set-up, but it all seems a little bit complex for me...could someone walk me through it slowly?
here we go:
Alear will do all the work, you want roy on him for hold out + bonus stats while engaged. You also need to inherit sword power 5 and reprisal+ (veronica skill) to add true dmg to his attack based on missing health.
to start, attack Nil with someone with Corrin for -4 to all his stats after combat and with someone with Soren and a fire tome for the -2 defense from anima focus.
Veyle need the Alfonse ring for more dmg for Alear (you need to craft it).Put veyle near Alear for +1 dmg (fell protection) and someone with chrom for rally+ above (+3 to alear stats)
Give Alear another action with Nel with veronica's contract (also boost Alear strenght). Seadall dance alear to do it again.
After that you need to find a way to move Nel to do a godess dance with Seadall/Nel/Alear. You can inherit draw back like in the video or use a warp staff.
Your chosen unit which need to be a backup for Byleth +4 str in godess dance use the godess dance. That unit must have inherited Corrin quality time skill to heal Alear letting him attack again.
Nel contract Alear for another attack then must be moved out of the way (easiest way is to inherit reposition on anybody was hortensia in the video). Seadall come to dance Alear to end the map but he must be first healed since he is at 1 hp or else hold out wont proc).
And thats it : this video th-cam.com/video/Ctrq3LXz-ok/w-d-xo.html can show you how to do it and explain steps by steps whats going on
Awesome
Wow.
Video sped up so fast i have to put it at .25 play speed and still doesnt help
Thank you I’m doing this way now instead of spending hours on second attempt
What skills did you use
meanwhile me doing like 3 dmg to him on normal with all of his buffs gone
Gregory doesn´t got the "draw back" skill... How do you do it?
The skills icon is in the ring skills section, so likely through the use of a bond ring
And people say emblem roy is bad
This is my favorite engage map, period. Though it is very tedious that didn’t really hurt my enjoyment of sending the royals back to rest. Though Alternate Alfred’s line absolutely broke me. Anyways, I’m extremely impressed that this was even possible
Wait you can keep your skills in xenologue?
How can u get the drawback skill on Gregory?
it's on S rank ring Eliwood but you can do it in another way:
you give Celica to Zelestia and destroy the armor that has the rescue staff and when you would use Draw Back, instead use Swap from Madeline and make Gregory teleport her away using the rescue staff
you'll need to position your units differently but it does work
This doesn’t seem on maddening. The actual fell Nil on maddening has 2 shards not 1. You must drop his hp 3 times since turn 1 not 2
It is, its written on top of the screen at the beginning. Nil start with 1 shard and get the other later from fogado divine blessing (tiki ult)
how in the hell can you afford reprisal+ AND sword power 5 in maddening? i call bs
Xenologue difficulty is independent from main game so they could have just grinded while their main game difficulty is on Hard.
@@VenomEmperor yeah and now well farming is a thing. Oh well engage is easy now gg
And this is why the DLC Emblems are busted
Yeah and it wasn't Corrin, Roy, and Byleth that didn't make this whole strategy possible to do to begin with.
@@Yangblaze11 it wouldn't be possible without Soren's Anima Focus, Veronica's Contract, or Chrom's Rally Spectrum either, but I understand your point
its veronica's reprisal+... which is supposedly balanced because its prohibitively SP expensive, specially for maddening
@@Overloaded45 it's only 6000, it can't be that bad to get if you leverage SP books correctly. Then again, I haven't played maddening yet
@@becausesakamoto5938 ohhhhh boy, you're in for a treat
Respectfully… what the frick
Mekkah would have thrown a fit knowing his livestream would be much shorter... IF he knew of this
Excuse me
can you change the thumbnail to not spoil anything? I completed the dlc before watching this but just in case other people saw this and got spoiled
yeah that's true, done
Bruh
Now do it without any prior dlc 👀
god this game is a mess....
What's up with the skips? This video is very choppy on certain characters.
They probably don’t have a capture card and just kept pressing record every 30 seconds on their switch
blame the switch capture function yeah
Wait doesnt nil have 4 lives?
He has 1 revival stone and gets more when he destroys parts of the map.
@Powerghost man... should have realised sooner, i got him to destroy all the islands and kill every single lord except fogado and he came with loads of skills and life stones. After a gruelling 2 day 4 hr battle, i finally won
...and I thought I was hot 💩 for figuring out how to 1 turn Chrom's paralogue (edit: I got my Timerra to do an 80/81 attack sandstorm proc on an anima focused, draconic hexed fell Nil and it still did 0 damage for anyone curious 🫠... this strat is truly wild! wish I had the bond fragments and patience for it)