It's time to talk about the Jhon Duran saga

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  • @amlmorris
    @amlmorris 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I'm pleased Villa have smart people in recruitment & understand the bullshit around Jhon Duran & are not falling for other clubs trying it on & thinking we're desperate enough too accept below our valuation for our player. With the lack of decent strikers around other clubs need too pay what we believe is right or go buy somewhere else. 😊

  • @petercollins5861
    @petercollins5861 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    totally agree with you. it's a real shame that the kid doesn't realize what he can have at Villa. Contrast with Amadou Onana, only 22, who handles himself much more professionally and is a more mature individual. UTV

  • @Robotsausagemusic
    @Robotsausagemusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Say thank you for the goals and the general madness, give him a handshake and a signed photo of Paul Mcgrath and send him on his way. We don't need any disruptive influences in the dressing room

    • @broken1394
      @broken1394 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Him doing the Hammers crossed arm out when was still our player...
      Kids got to go imo.

    • @anthonybailey1966
      @anthonybailey1966 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@broken1394still think this way....?!

    • @Ellolerto23
      @Ellolerto23 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ooof

    • @anthonybailey1966
      @anthonybailey1966 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Robotsausagemusic well this has aged very well! 😀

  • @britishmick
    @britishmick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Woe betide any team looking to take Duran on regardless of his clear potential!. He and his agent are all about “Team Duran” and I would be concerned as a potential suitor about there being no obvious reason for him throwing his dummy out the pram, subsequently I’d also be concerned about the fact that there’s no guarantee that his attitude will dissipate nor is there any guarantee that his potential is even there and/or is going to be realised!. What if he gives you a great season then gets worse and starts making demands. I know he’s going to be good but he’s not worth the hassle!. UTV

  • @Mrdogface12
    @Mrdogface12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It’s a crying shame for Jhon Duran. Immature , wanting his own way & I don’t think his agent is doing him any favours.

    • @jcampbell4252
      @jcampbell4252 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When do agents ever do their players any favours 85% of them have turned into greedy vultures

  • @AnotherVillaPodcast
    @AnotherVillaPodcast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great pod again guys! Duran only played 8mins for Colombia in the copa and he wants to be first choice for club and country. Simple really

  • @TheBIGMatthew182
    @TheBIGMatthew182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The only defence I could give for Jhon Duran as far as the West Ham thing goes, remember when Tyrone Mings went back to Bournemouth in an Aston Villa kit after the loan. That is arguably worse than the Hammers gesture in isolation. Its just the I'd rather be anywhere else style twerking for other clubs to come sign him because is not our main man that is extremely immature. He needs someone to tell him the more he does these kind of things the less chance a club will want to gamble on his potential

  • @MartinPackwood
    @MartinPackwood 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It is not going to be easy to find a club he will be happier at than Villa and that will pay the fee. He will not be guaranteed to play at any club either, whatever assurances he gets. I think he might still be a Villa player when the window shuts. It will be interesting to see if he turns out for us, or trains with the youths.

  • @wepif
    @wepif 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Mario Balotelli vibes on this guy could be a genius but also a squad nightmare player

    • @TruffleShuffle49
      @TruffleShuffle49 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mario balotelli if ordered from Temu 🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣
      He had a choice and chose wrong ....he'll be sold and have 7 or 8 clubs in ten years and become another Ravel Morrison ....shame really

  • @derekporter1634
    @derekporter1634 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    West ham fan here it's terable the way he has disrespected villa or any other team

  • @andytillsley9576
    @andytillsley9576 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It’s a real shame , he is going to be a good player but he needs to sort his head out and listen to

  • @stephenbell8349
    @stephenbell8349 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Relegate him to U23 until his contact runs out

  • @PhilipPreston-k9m
    @PhilipPreston-k9m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think we are spending far too much time on a petulant child

  • @TruffleShuffle49
    @TruffleShuffle49 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The kid who had everything , he's disrespected our club,our manager ,his teammates ,our recruitment team and shat on the welcome he got from JPA .
    Bin him asap .
    He's gonna be a woeful tale of all the gear no idea , thicker than custard and as mature as a plastic cheese slice .
    He has to go now imo ....

  • @Bobby_sprinkles
    @Bobby_sprinkles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I worry for Duran's future in general to be honest. Potential can only get you so far and I do wonder why any club would even want to go in for him if this is the behaviour that they are seeing.
    We need to sell him because I genuinely think that his value will only decrease the more obvious it is in regards to his general attitude.

    • @TruffleShuffle49
      @TruffleShuffle49 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He'll end up with more clubs than Nick faldo 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
      It's sad and a shame that a young lad hasn't had the right people around him .

    • @Bobby_sprinkles
      @Bobby_sprinkles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TruffleShuffle49 Definitely feels that way. There's a player in there but he needs to focus.

  • @joebees21
    @joebees21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This may sound immature but at this point I don't care - I'd absolutely love it if we get loads of money and send him off to waste away in the Saudi League.
    I don't want to think about any Villa player like that but at the end of the day he's insulted my club multiple times.
    Cash in and send him to Saudi.

  • @Kass-m5w
    @Kass-m5w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can't lie, I am gutted we aren't going to see him evolve under Emery; As strange as it may seem I find him endearing, maybe an odd word to use, but there is another side to him as he is great with the young fans, the mascots and is truly delighted when he scores. In matches, I have loved how he challenges the opposition and even our own players. As an example at Anfield he came on in the last few mins of the match, charging into Gomez, stood nose to nose challenging him, a matcho stand off. Gomez couldn't believe it 😂
    As trute as this may sound, he is truly an original and whether you like him or not he grabs attention as soon as he walks on to the pitch (rare) and he often creates and delivers. Unfortunately he is still on the cusp of his career that could be derailed. He is clearly poorly advised while he is going thru his teenage brat phase and as much as I enjoy him its right we have drawn a line in the sand, its right that we are being professional, keeping the drama to his side not adding to it.

  • @davidbland9546
    @davidbland9546 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as someone who has been club secretary, you can include a clause stating he cannot play against the selling club, but obviously has to be agreed by both sides.

  • @lms_steve6693
    @lms_steve6693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm 72 and a life long villan. If he wants to go then get rid, just like Andy Gray wanted to leave years ago. BTW Andy polished your European Cup winners medal lately? 😀

  • @junior-v3h8o
    @junior-v3h8o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    oh lord let this nightmare end I,m sick of hearing his name ,good luck to West Ham they will need it !!!!!!!

  • @nickmcmahon623
    @nickmcmahon623 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    John, I’m with you that Duran has the potential to be perhaps a generational talent. He scored three of our best goals last season. Unfortunately though, he clearly wants and needs out. Apparently he spends most of his time in London and being down there with a second rate club is more attractive to him than being in the champions league at a midlands club. Screw the purchaser for maximum dollar and include a hefty sell-on.

  • @Stevie-V
    @Stevie-V 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Question? Where is Lino Sousa?

  • @kimbob5
    @kimbob5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    End of the day, be professional as actions like Duran has shown young or not sets a bad precedent for his future. But I also think his agent must be a total tool and being in his ear constantly only thinking his value will raise with a little more football without actually caring about his progress.
    It’s just a sad state of affairs but at the end of the day whatever Unai and Monchi decide I will back, think they should probably focus on Archer now and develop him for the back up role to Watkins and hopefully in time he’ll be leading the charge.

  • @junior-v3h8o
    @junior-v3h8o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    if he rips it up at West Ham ,I can bet he will want out for a bigger club

  • @EnerieEffex
    @EnerieEffex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s a bit of a ridiculous situation considering our PSR dealings. If he wants to move, all he needs to do is murmur and we’ll ship him somewhere decent and cash in (like we’re trying to do). Other clubs aren’t stupid, his behaviour waves a big red flag which negatively impacts all parties involved. As for his quality, unless he grows up, he’ll only be a flash of brilliance player. In a way, I hope he does stay and comes to realise he’s in a really good place for his development, but like you say, it’s probably too late for that now.

  • @yvonnec.maxwell5722
    @yvonnec.maxwell5722 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *DANNY INGS* _Must Hate _*_JD DURAN_*_ At This Stage FrFr_ 😠😤😡
    😤😠😤😡😤

  • @jjfreer
    @jjfreer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video lads as per usual.. Gonna have to say it again though, i love when you use that room, but might have to come down there and rip that aircon out myself, driving me insane haha On Duran, i dont see how we couldnt sit him down and convince him hell get enough minutes, start him after every ucl game that ollie plays, promise him some other games too it would keep him happy. the dudes goals per 90 is crazy. Part of me, hopes he cant go anywhere, gets put in his place and feels embarrassed, re-evaluates, sorts things out behind the scenes, and settles down at villa. We cant replace him, and hes a stunning weapon on our bench. But hes pissed me off to the max now.

    • @ClaretBluePod
      @ClaretBluePod  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Was told the aircon would be sorted by end of July yet here we are. I’m as frustrated as you!!

    • @jjfreer
      @jjfreer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ClaretBluePod All good, im sure it will sound great when they sort it. Im just being picky, but i do love a nice quality soothing deep low end audio which your mics are delivering nicely in that room aside from that aircon noise :) keep up the good work.

    • @andrewc3509
      @andrewc3509 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No player is bigger than the mighty Villa.
      This petulant boy has made a complete clown of himself 🤡
      Clubs 150 anniversary season we've got bigger fish to fry 🎉
      UTV
      (Great podcast BTW lads)

  • @Cowboybebop1204
    @Cowboybebop1204 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m ready for him to go now, but if I’m West Ham I’d look at that post and think, what happens when a bigger club comes in for him in a few years. He will do the same to West Ham (as typing this you’ve literally said the same thing) but just shows they would be signing a player that will do the same to you.

  • @carlthomas7354
    @carlthomas7354 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Duran has blossomed early and probably won't keep developing at this rate...
    He has the tools to be a very good striker but definitely doesn't have the mentality to be a top player. I can't think of any top player or aguero, Torres, Owen, fowler etc in any position who had this attitude at 20... It's not immaturity it's his character.

  • @stephentaylor5500
    @stephentaylor5500 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It really didn't need to be like this from Duran but it's his own making so yeah, just get rid. Blood through Archer as backup striker.

  • @kingeightyone3294
    @kingeightyone3294 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If he was a good enough footballer then Unai would keep him, improve him him and work with him to fix his attitude but he really is every good

  • @I_Evo
    @I_Evo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He really needed someone, who didn't have a financial interest, to take him by the shoulders and guide him though his development as a young Premier League player. Somewhat surprised and disappointed that no-one be it coaching staff, management or senior players were able to get though to him.

    • @karang100
      @karang100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mostly all the players improved after emery and his staff came at villa(experienced players mcginn,mings as well as young players rogers,ramsey) and duran is the only case where we heard of attitude problem. I think we can see where problem lies.

    • @I_Evo
      @I_Evo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@karang100 Not disputing that, just saying it's a shame that the club couldn't find a positive way to address his attitude problem and or the bad influencers who were/are leading him astray.

  • @madras1
    @madras1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think it’s simple, he’s been blinded by the London lights and thinks he too good to be living in Brum. I think he’s a class player but after doing that on a livestream, I don’t want him anyway.

  • @gyata7270
    @gyata7270 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know who's worse Duran or his Agent that likes talking to much. Physically he is what we need, but mentally he's not. He's the type that would get subbed on in like the 70th min and then get sent off in the 80th min. When he's on the pitch it's like the other players have to watch him in case he kicks off

  • @PhilipPreston-k9m
    @PhilipPreston-k9m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Apparently they have offered 40 mil and Villa have turned it down that want add ons for god sake get rid please

  • @uk-critz579
    @uk-critz579 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dont you think Morgan Rogers could be cover for Watkins ?

  • @vforvillan9502
    @vforvillan9502 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sell him to the Saudis for £40M. End of.

  • @standuplive1
    @standuplive1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I almost wondered if it wasnt some smart market strats or something. Villa refuse last offer and tell duran to burn villa from Social media and then they squeeze a little more out for him XD

  • @ronniemurphy8857
    @ronniemurphy8857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    John if you think Duran. Is a top. Player. You should get a new job. . I glad there a running track around the west ham pitch. .Because. he will run out of the ground if there wasn't . John. Duran. Is not and never will be a top player. . Villa. Have robbed. West ham. With a mask

    • @anthonybailey1966
      @anthonybailey1966 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apparently there wasn't a robbery....only justice after a dodgy penalty decision!! 😂

  • @barrygribben2531
    @barrygribben2531 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Theres Def a player in there and he has all the potential but he reminds me a bit of ballotelli! If he isn't willing to get his head down, work and learn under Emery and with the project at Villa then I'm not sure any team or system will be able to get him to. Good luck to them and him but I'd rather have 40 million to invest and for PSR than the chaos he brings

  • @cestmoi7829
    @cestmoi7829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guys great show but saying how you don’t rate him and/or saying his attitude stinks and he is trouble is just negative for Villa; such talk outs off potential suitors and/or make them offer less which neither is great for Villa. He is an incredible talent and honestly as manager that can bring it out of him is onto a huge winner

    • @ClaretBluePod
      @ClaretBluePod  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He’s not going to be not signed by somebody because of our comments on the podcast 😂

    • @cestmoi7829
      @cestmoi7829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ClaretBluePod but it’s not just your podcasts - it’s all villa social media and that gets picked up by West Ham fans and and and

    • @cestmoi7829
      @cestmoi7829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Met an Everton fan on the weekend - he said they gave us onana and he is totally 5hit; of course he feels this way but he has gone he didn’t say this before he left

    • @cestmoi7829
      @cestmoi7829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ClaretBluePod spoke with Chelsea and that the reason they provided - I guess you don’t realise 🤔🤣

  • @AB.............
    @AB............. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whats happening with Rory Wilson?

  • @waynebrown7439
    @waynebrown7439 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    it’s time to say…off you pop

  • @kenglass1980
    @kenglass1980 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Luigi Duran Duran
    Pissed off the Villans and ran
    Went to London Town
    Where his career went down, down, down down.....

  • @VillansOnTour
    @VillansOnTour 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great episode lads 💜🩵

  • @meatcleaverness
    @meatcleaverness 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    On yer bike Jhon

  • @CaptainGarratt
    @CaptainGarratt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Villa fans - why haven’t we sold him…
    Villa fans - every time a club shows interest we will go to their social media and tell them his attitude stinks and we want shut of him…

  • @captainhindsight6994
    @captainhindsight6994 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Look at ivan toney, much more rounded player and proven in the prem but he has attitude issues and look how little the top clubs are interested. Theyre rumoured to be but its just that, rumours. Duran is younger, less experience and a bigger attitude. Id be amazed if someone comes in for him properly

  • @patrickyule7011
    @patrickyule7011 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think I agree with John, let’s keep him 😂. UTV

  • @Phil-cp3de
    @Phil-cp3de 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    West Ham can have him , show him the M1 and send him off

  • @PhilipPreston-k9m
    @PhilipPreston-k9m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I was is age I was on £12:00 a week That’s the trouble today they are on far to much money

    • @Bobby_sprinkles
      @Bobby_sprinkles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think that's an excuse. Ego doesn't always have money attached to it.

    • @siwakeman1266
      @siwakeman1266 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Bobby_sprinkles agreed plenty of young footballers on big money and have proffesional attitudes.

    • @Bobby_sprinkles
      @Bobby_sprinkles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@siwakeman1266 I mean, thinking closer to home, think about the attention Grealish was getting when he was growing up. He had the occassional getting drunk thing (which he still does) but he wouldn't do the things Duran has done.

  • @wanderingwildman7861
    @wanderingwildman7861 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hypothetical situation. Who knows if Olly Watkins has as good or a better season as last that next summer someone like Real Madrid comes in with massive financial offer, Duran could find himself first choice striker if his development continues in the meantime but it seems he's too childish to wait and wants it NOW!!! Get rid, we don't need that kind of temperament in the dressing room.

    • @Paul-vl2wg
      @Paul-vl2wg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cannot see it personally, Ollie will be 29 later.this year so if he moved on the next club will have no sell on fee so paying a massive to sign him is debatable. If all the rules around profitably did not exist it may have been possible.

    • @Paul-vl2wg
      @Paul-vl2wg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excuse the typos, grammar 😁😁

  • @ricclark8162
    @ricclark8162 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hopefully Duran wont go to play for murderers in saudi , thanks for the pod :)

  • @markbranigan
    @markbranigan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to say, I really liked the chaos Duran brought to the game every time he came on. I don't think he's a bad lad. I just think he's a bit of an idiot and doesn't have the emotional intelligence to see the mistakes he's making. I'm not sure if he'll ever be able to get his head straight so it's best for him to move on.

  • @GuitarJammerJohn
    @GuitarJammerJohn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t think there is as much potential as some people seem to say. He is alright but when I watch him I always think his touch is terrible and he doesn’t even look that good at shooting. I think people have bought into the hype because Duran believes it so much about himself that it almost makes you think he must be that good given his attitude.

  • @PrashantNaik-yt3os
    @PrashantNaik-yt3os 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think we are dragging this along to teach him a lesson

  • @PhilipPreston-k9m
    @PhilipPreston-k9m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He’s a liability and embarrassment get shut

  • @cestmoi7829
    @cestmoi7829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    More
    Emotional intelligence than durans would be nice 👍

  • @juhalehto6494
    @juhalehto6494 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agents make money when player signs new deal or gets transfer. They give terrible advice.

  • @amlmorris
    @amlmorris 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's very disappointing after we gave Duran an unusually extra big welcome for such a young player who had proven nothing when joining us,making the Angel video etc. Durans attitude/behavior has been awful & it feels like he's spitting at our great club & fans for backing him & giving him a fantastic opportunity,but he may be getting bad advice from others? Not acceptable! ☹️👎

  • @grahamjones7070
    @grahamjones7070 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He wants a Massive club ..end of

  • @LG26
    @LG26 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He’s overrated take £40m and send him on his way, he will bounce around clubs and end up back in south America

  • @OliTaylor
    @OliTaylor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t get the price tag. He reminds me of Wesley.

  • @connellmchugh4943
    @connellmchugh4943 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sadly it’s the classic arrogance of youth. No doubt there’s a real player coming through in Duran but he’s not a team player at all. If no-one matches Villa’s evaluation then he needs to be frozen out sadly. He has been majorly disrespectful to the club and fan base

  • @PDX-Villan
    @PDX-Villan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    John, why aren't you stateside???

    • @ClaretBluePod
      @ClaretBluePod  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Villa aren’t doing any external media so it’d be a wasted (and very expensive) trip sadly

  • @PaulWolfenden
    @PaulWolfenden 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jhon duran with the south american shithousery.
    It's all a big wind up. He's staying and gonna score 20+ this season.

  • @phillydavison
    @phillydavison 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The guy is only behind 1 of the best strikers in the world and could learn his trade from him all while being managed by an elite level manager in Unai Emery, he is also at a CL club and just spends his time acting like a clown. GTFO of our club.

  • @richarddavies7323
    @richarddavies7323 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, he is talented but he has his head up his backside and bad attitude is a real problem. Villa needs to sell him and move on

  • @uvk99
    @uvk99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The thing is, he really wanted to join Chelsea. But they've done their homework, and reckon he's trouble, West Ham , need to be careful..

    • @Justinian-IV
      @Justinian-IV 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shhhhhhh

  • @ronniemurphy8857
    @ronniemurphy8857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Duran. Is going nowhere. I know lots of people who would of given him a free taxi ride. No charge. . Bad decision not to get rid at anyprice

  • @engine9277
    @engine9277 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bring gabby back to replace Duran

  • @andrewholdsworth4421
    @andrewholdsworth4421 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure what he wants to be honest l feel he is not stable . saying he wants to go to a big club and he wants to go to west ham not sure what planet he is from . He clearly wants to move to London . l can see all bling come out there and him getting all sorts of trouble . He isa bitdaft ent he .

  • @amandagray4064
    @amandagray4064 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know it makes no financial sense but I would sell him to Saudis for £1 . He has disrespected the club , the shirt and our fans . He was being a 🔔🔚for months now . Deleted any posts about Villa , using his attitude on the reels after the games . Bad egg . I hope he gets stuck in Saudi league earning his so wanted lifestyle playing in front of 30 fans . Inflated ego toe rag !!!

  • @MarieWright-pl2tc
    @MarieWright-pl2tc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    See you later Duran you could have been a leg end here just like Angel but hey ho best go and grow up a little then realise you moved real mad

  • @Stingilingus
    @Stingilingus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think he’s a gonna be a great striker. I was always crying for him to come on when the chips were down. Will never forget those 2 goals against Liverpool. I hope we don’t sell him and can come to some compromise!

  • @justininfrance
    @justininfrance 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Duran makes Mario Balotelli look like a sane and rational human being. One day someone will write a PhD on his suicidal levels of hubris and narcissism.