@@Kilgallon1981 If you didn't think those were difficult questions I don't know what to tell you. This wasn't a breeze for Angus. You have to at least give him credit for that...even if you consider him a "Tory T"
This last year, I stayed a firm supporter of the club, my 53rd year of doing so… but I also became a supporter of The Square Ball… I took away so much from that interview that I didn’t know. From the scale of overhaul Bielsa had requested to the anger at how Adams transfer was handled. I think balance was achieved in handling Angus Kinnear as CEO… and as a result, he was also able to say more. Really Great job!
Raphinha (and several others) did perform a bit better when Marsch came. We got a bit of a new manager "bump". I don't rate Marsch but it's not fair to blame him when players perform poorly, while simultaneously giving no credit when they give a decent performance.
Excellent guys , spot on questioning , fair play to Angus , a bit uncomfortable at times but battled through it honestly in my opinion , Great insight ...its items like these that stands out The Square Ball as No 1
The biggest thing that comes across here is that Angus genuinely seems to care about the club, the fans and the team. He didn’t have to do this, could easily have done an official club podcast where he got softer questions, but this is as close to facing the fans directly as he could’ve gotten. Even if he doesn’t stay too long, and is simply remaining to help transition the 49ers into the club, I think he understands the mistakes, and the errors, and will try his hardest to atone for any he’s made himself.
Impressive chat from the TSB team so kudos to you both and to those who may have helped shape the approach taken. Really beneficial chat with all the changes behind the scenes, and great to hear what Angus had to say. He came across very well and magnanimous, and clearly he has impressed the ownership. It is a tough job, and kudos to him for showing up, and not hiding.
Very impressed with that as an interview. Some good, searching questions and to be fair to Angus Kinnear, he answered them as fully as possible without trying to push blame elsewhere or breaching confidentiality. Well done all.
Angus was more open and honest than I thought he would be or needed to be. It’s obvious we were hamstrung by Andrea’s lack of huge wealth, but I still give him credit. He tried, stayed too long, but as Angus said, it’s his business and it gets emotional (just look at us fans) We’re in good hands, slow and steady, but I think they’ll make the team on of the big 8 again.
@@tempname4039 you would do,that why were in a mess……but, carry on truths hurts Kinnear is a Twat running MY football club….I really don’t want to deal with your valuation!!
Fair play to Angus for coming on the show again, he was very honest. Fair play to Dan and Michael too, they were as strong with questions and subjects as they could have been. 💙💛
Great stuff guys and massive respect to Angus for his transparency. Running a football club is not easy and it's impossible to control the outcome of every decision that you make. He knows that the club made mistakes and now they can learn from them.
Insightful. Some of the greatest lessons in life are a product of failure. The response so far this season has been encouraging. Honest responses and respectful of our magnificent club. MOT!
@@soulie5287He really doesn't have to. I don't know how many other CEOs offer up nearly two hours of their time for a completely unrestricted interview where they don't control the questions, but it can't be many. So yes, he really wanted to.
Great interview, lads. Really good to hear Angus’ views on the whole calamitous season - respect for turning up to answer questions: shit got real at the 1 hour point 😅
Having watched the whole interview I think Angus came across as honest and with the right intentions for the club going forward. He didn't try to hide from the mistakes made which led to relegation last season. I thought his rationale for some of his programme notes was interesting and valid; I'd never thought of the angle that yes - as a senior figure within the club - he did / does have a responsibility to 'big up' his players / employees on occasion...I think everyone would rather work for a boss who publicly supports and encourages them (whatever line of work they are in). Great interview and well worth a watch.
Well done Adam and the TSB. I thoroughly enjoyed this exposition of recent events and recent seasons. Adam could have ducked this one but he deserves a huge amount of credit for standing up and being counted. If I were his employer I would be extremely grateful for his work and professionalism. I hope the clear out of the rats and snakes puts us into a much stronger position and we can all be proud of our great club once again. MOT!
Not even watched it yet - but fair play to him for coming in....updated comment to come after :)) Just watched : thought he was as straight forward as he could be - no real surprise revelations. I think we all knew what was going on and he admitted they should have got rid of marsch sooner and that Grazia losing the dressing room at Bournemouth - really good job by the TSB lads in pressing him - well worth a listen - favorite parts : Dan straight in with the Levi’s contract law quip and “we can have a healthy debate about me being a twat but I’m not a Tory ‘ I’m glad Farke is here and I’m glad orta has gone … MOT!
Great interview....thank you to Angus for coming on and being open, honest and transparent. No excuses, no side stepping...deserved to stay on as CEO and gives me hope we are on the right track to getting back to the PL.
Good chat. Dan you did a great job because I'm sure that there were some points that you may have had to have held back a little. Fair play to Angus for doing the interview, and it has been done at the correct time. He was careful and measured as you'd expect, and he was placed in sufficient discomfort, I'd say. I'd love someone to watch this back (not me) and count how many times he says "ya know" Fair to say at this stage that none of the players that left due to clauses will be welcomed back. The players that did stay are deserving of our respect.
Thank you for appearing on The Square Ball podcast again, Mr Kinnear. Not many top clubs have a CEO willing to do this when things have been plain sailing, never mind when they have gone the way the last two seasons have for Leeds United. A brilliant presentation from the best in the business, thank you TSB!
Absolutely fascinating the whole thing. Well done TSB for continually getting him in (fair play for him showing up!) and solid questioning, very thorough, fair, professional approach to representing the fan base…🙌
Really interesting interview with an intelligent and honest CEO. I hope past mistakes have been learned from and aren’t repeated but it’s good to hear Angus take personal responsibility for some of the decisions that didn’t work out.
Great video, very interesting and enlightening to hear from the 'inside'. Kudos to Angus for doing these interviews and answering difficult questions with apparent honesty and love for the club.
Fantastic interview Lads, some great questions and points raised to Angus, who I have to say addressed everything you asked and did a good job of putting across the position the club were in last season and this season. We don't for the most part understand how football operates internally and frankly how turbulent it can be so having some insight to that is always great. Respect to both you guys at the Square ball and Angus for coming out and doing it MOT 👏
Excellent watch and fair play to Angus facing some awkward questions. Thought he answered everything with a straight bat. Takes some balls to face the music so respect to Angus. And great questions from the lads👏👏👏 Keep up the brilliant work guys! MOT 💙💛🤍
58:40 ‘you’d like to think the majority of the players at least retain their transfer fee’. In the context of if the club is relegated surely you have to account for the fact that in those circumstances the majority of players are unlikely to retain their transfer value because if they had performed at that level we wouldn’t have been relegated in the first place. In what possible scenario do we get relegated but the majority of the players have played well enough to still be valued at what we paid for them?
Fair play to him for doing the interview with regards the season we had, took some blows but took them on the chin, moving forward its left me feeling positive for the next few years at least .
This was excellent. A very good interview from Dan and Michael, and a very honest and clear explanation from Angus. Tyler Adams has done himself no favours now it is clear what his behaviour was like after Leeds had really cared for him. I hope one day we are told what happened in the Palace game. But all in all, feel much more secure, informed and confident, so fair play to Angus here.
@@11JanhoOkay, I agreed with one of your comments below, but you seriously have nothing positive to say from that interview? What specifically do you think was "dishonest"?
@@jonnysmyth1011 In spite of Dan( Square Ball) probing and confronting the Twat Never answered a question ! You can agree or disagree that’s your prerogative, but are you deaf?Where do you point the finger to this mess we are currently dealing with? People like you? Get off the fence Jonny , someone is responsible as in the case when we were in the third tier with Bates etc etc …..
Just gone through the comments, and I didn't spot one which wasn't positive about Kinnear, which considering the last two years, is a MASSIVE testament to his responses, and the great interviewing from the TSB gents. Good work all... MOT.
Astonishingly good interview. Kinnear was surprisingly frank and revealing, without actually throwing too many culprits under the bus, other than Sinisterra, though clearly he thought that Orta was given too much freedom and really screwed up with some of the transfers. It is interesting though, that apparently Marcelo Bielsa wanted Aaronson, who turned out to be one of the most disastrous transfers, though perhaps not as disastrous for the club as Marsch, Kristensen and Firpo. Also interesting that he was surprised that so many of the players whose transfer value declined over the season wanted out after relegation rather than stay and fight for promotion. Also interesting that he thinks that Sinisterra is still potentially worth more in the transfer market than what Leeds paid for him. My overall impression though was that the club is in competent hands and that a return to the premiership within 3 years is very possible.
What a great interview! Very honest. I feel the club is finally in a steady footing. Great manager and some great players in. We will be a lot bette off in the long term. Only blot is the left back situation which beggars belief.
Fantastic interview, fair play to Angus & TSB boys, direct hard hitting questions and no dodging the bullets by Angus. To be honest I fell out of love with football and Leeds United over the past two seasons, after following Leeds for 53 years. Maybe ive started healing my broken heart.
Well done for getting him on guys and asking the difficult questions, and kudos to him for doing it. Some interesting points in there we didn't know which shed some light on why seemingly crazy decisions were made. Ive always felt Angus has the best interests of the club at heart and hope this is the start of a new trajectory for the club. Daniel Farke hit the nail on the head when he said we need to get back to what we lost when Bielsa left. The club, board, Management and fans all as one. MOT
I admire the leadership of attending this interview. However, thinking March’s first season was a success is delusional. The regression was clear for all to see. We stayed up in spite of Marsch, not because of Marsch. Keeping him was the key mistake.
It’s not delusional if you look at from the point of view of the target that season was for Marsh to keep us up. He was successful at that. He was still a rancid manager though who shouldn’t have been given the job of m the first place
completely agree. even his wins were lucky. Norwich 94th minute goal, Watford could have gone either way, Wolves away on that Friday night 2-0 down they go down to 10 men and thankfully collapsed, Brentford when we stayed up they went down to 9 men in that game. Man City battered 4-0, Chelsea came beat 3-0 us didnt have a shot on target, Aston Villa beat us 3-0 didnt have a shot on target. warning signs were there
The key mistake was selecting him as the successor for Bielsa in the first place. The kind of player we had, that Bielsa liked were completely different from the type of player Marsch needed. Bringing him in as anything more than a short term project made no sense and Orta deserves the blame. By doing this Orta set the players, the club, and even Marsch himself up for failure. We had a team made up of half Marsch ball players and half Bielsa players. Which meant we couldn't carry out either style effectively.
@@leemitchell3302mate did you watch the back half of the season? Something in terms of play style should materialise in a third of the season, personally I was neutral to keeping him on but some of the rumoured names otherwise were far more preferable.
@@Donners329 I think you might be missing my point mate! The boards target for marsh in that last part of the season was to stay up, we stayed up so they will see it as successful. They had a target for him, we met it while he was in charge. Now my own opinion is most appointments could have done the same, I even think Bielsa would have sorted it if he’d have stayed so I’m not giving marsh credit for it, simply looking at why Angus would view it as successful.
Respect to Kinnear for coming on and overall was as open and honest as he could be regarding everything and didn't shy away from owning the mistakes. It's very easy and cynical as fans to question the loan release clause but ultimately the long term safety, under the previous owner would have been in jeopardy, which none of us want. I do think too much power was given to Orta post bielsa which hopefully has been rectified now with the new structure. Overall I think Angus has sincerity and dignity and does want us to succeed, yes he has made mistakes but he is the only one who's here to try make amends so let's see where we are in 12-18 months.
Incredible interview asking lots of deep routed questions too which we've all been begging to get answers on. Very impressed with the questions and Angus' responses! One criticism was wouldn't of minded hearing a question about why we actually didn't sign a left back or if we wanted Hamer and that didnt work why didn't we go for another CAM? Potentially the missing piece this year if it doesn't work out.
Great interview and credit to Angus. He knew what was coming and didn't have to be shot at but conducted himself very well. No tiptoeing around the frustrations of the fans. Just brilliant interviewing by the cast of TSB. I think Angus needed a glass of water as definitely a lot of dry mouth noises coming from him. Don't mind someone fronting up in the face of adversity. Great insight into what has gone on. Thank you chaps for the compelling podcast 👍
Class from Angus, very sincere i thought. Loved the 'twat? But not ever a Tory' . Never going to directly throw Orta under the bus , but body language said a lot. His & the clubs intentions for the season look very positive. A little patience will pay off.
Great stuff guys... questions were direct and honest and respect to Angus for his honesty answering.. especially around transfers.. its not the club its the player.. and fair play get rid.. I thought that we needed to get through the transfer window.. to let Daniel and the squad crack on with the season.... MOT
Excellent interview. Spicy yet appreciative questions! Increased my already high esteem of you guys, and increased my valuation of AK. We still won't get auto promoted. We're not the only decent team in the CS
Great interview, well done Angus for fronting up and answering all the questions. I'm more positive about the season after listening to him. I'm glad he dispelled the nonsense that Bielsa didn't want new players. He wanted a new squad!
A very good interview. Love him or hate him, at least he came and faced up. How many other CEOs do that I wonder? Minor annoyances for me were that there was far too much Victor Orta chat and that you didn't ask the million dollar question. What really happened at half time against Palace? 🙂
Brilliant interview, very clear why certain decisions were made, whether right or wrong he gave us good insight into why. Feels good to get some answers.
@soulie5287 what a stupid comment! He's come out and been honest! The man at fault is orta we all know he was the one dictating! Not seen orta or radz doing stuff like this
@mick6370 yet other 2 have gone he still there.... no people aren't easily lead by words donut!! Least he's had the balls to go on and do this! Wheres orta the MAIN man who fucked us up where radz don't see them doing these?? Listen to what he says about Adams and sinisterra
@@Ohmydayyshe has done it for a few years now and has come across as genuine and has answered everything we’d asked. Noones done perfect but he’s been the most chivalrous in his approach out of the gang. My opinion
@@Cranndaddy being the best of a bad bunch isn’t an achievement, he should never work in the game again. All happy with him because he speaks like an MP👍🏼
One omission lads: you did not ask Angus if Nick Hammond will be retained for a permanent job. That is a very relevant and current question of great interest.
Fantastic interview and I'm proud of Angus. Tough job but faces it head on. I think he's spot on in terms of supporting professional footballers that want to be at the club, irrespective of form. Support features on both sides.
When the Leeds board sacked Bielsa all the questions were all wrong. Results had been awful and fans were asking why is Bielsa doing this and that? Bielsa hadn't changed, but the board hadn't listened to him and acted on his advice. It is quite obvious now that the problem was the board, the owners and directors and not Bielsa. The board acted shamelessly in sacking him when they were entirely at fault. Hang your head Angus, you were there on the board. Et tu, Brute?
Was it not just an issue of money? Bielsa made it clear he had a 2 year plan (which he delivered perfectly) but the club would then need to provide the huge cash injection to overhaul the team with 50 mill plus players to stay in the premier league. Radrizani never had the wealth necessary to make this happen. It was never an option and therefore the outcome (failure to maintain premier league status) was inevitable. Had it been the 49ers who owned the club at that time things could have been different.
You say the board didn't listen to him and act on his advice.... his advice was to buy a new team. I've never heard such autistic advice as that in my life. You cannot buy a new team at any time, much less in your second year as a premier league team. If the 49ers had taken full control in the summer of 2021 then maybe they could have spent and bought enough good players to keep us going under biesla. But for him to suggest buying a new team to his owner when he knows his owner hasn't got much money and we've not long come out of the championship. Is plain special needs 🤷♂️🤷♂️
For anyone who hasn’t seen, Radrizzani is complaining about Angus on twitter because of this interview, clearly he’s been back on the Pinot and just can’t let it go
Well done to the Square Ball and Angus, I thought it was a very honest and interesting interview, good questions no messing about, well done. Know a bit more now and feel good for this coming season. I think Farke will be our ace card probably the best signing from the board so far. MOT with the 49ers.
Well done Angus, you wouldn't get many CEO's doing this kind of interview, and some very honest responses, and some good points on Junior training and actually wanting to play for the club and the abuse of Bamford.
Great interview! I loved it when Angus said when people call me a "Tory Twat on the street, we can have a healthy debate about the twat, but I'm not a Tory" . Brilliant, a lot of respect for him. He seems to genuinely care, and if he's not a Tory, than all the better :)
Great interview guys. Respect to Angus for coming on and fielding the difficult questions, didn’t try to hide or shirk responsibility. MOT 👍
yes he did!
Don't give him credit. He's manipulated this and managed to make himself smell of roses.
He was a big part of a big problem
Which difficult question was that ?
@@Kilgallon1981 If you didn't think those were difficult questions I don't know what to tell you. This wasn't a breeze for Angus. You have to at least give him credit for that...even if you consider him a "Tory T"
This last year, I stayed a firm supporter of the club, my 53rd year of doing so… but I also became a supporter of The Square Ball… I took away so much from that interview that I didn’t know. From the scale of overhaul Bielsa had requested to the anger at how Adams transfer was handled. I think balance was achieved in handling Angus Kinnear as CEO… and as a result, he was also able to say more. Really Great job!
That a CEO goes on a non club podcast is amazing! Great job!
Marsche didn't keep us up, Raphinia did!
Raphinia & Newcastle
Raphinha, Newcastle, and Tyrone Mings kept us up.
@@FeloniousFunk Don't forget Jiménez, the twat.
If that's true why were Leeds crap before Marsch whilst Raphinha was at the club?
Raphinha (and several others) did perform a bit better when Marsch came. We got a bit of a new manager "bump". I don't rate Marsch but it's not fair to blame him when players perform poorly, while simultaneously giving no credit when they give a decent performance.
Excellent guys , spot on questioning , fair play to Angus , a bit uncomfortable at times but battled through it honestly in my opinion , Great insight ...its items like these that stands out The Square Ball as No 1
The biggest thing that comes across here is that Angus genuinely seems to care about the club, the fans and the team. He didn’t have to do this, could easily have done an official club podcast where he got softer questions, but this is as close to facing the fans directly as he could’ve gotten. Even if he doesn’t stay too long, and is simply remaining to help transition the 49ers into the club, I think he understands the mistakes, and the errors, and will try his hardest to atone for any he’s made himself.
How much he's being paid? He's added no value and written off contracts that will cost us in the future
@@ianhannant7497Which contracts?
Great video guys. Fair play to Angus for coming on and hopefully he's now working with a better team especially on the recruitment side!
Impressive chat from the TSB team so kudos to you both and to those who may have helped shape the approach taken. Really beneficial chat with all the changes behind the scenes, and great to hear what Angus had to say. He came across very well and magnanimous, and clearly he has impressed the ownership. It is a tough job, and kudos to him for showing up, and not hiding.
Spurs fan, but watched out of curiosity.. massive respect to Angus for fronting up like this. Really insightful and interesting interview
Respect to him for doing this every year
Respect to him for turning the club into financial disaster and a National laughing stock once again.
@@OhmydayysLazy opinion.
Respect for what, are you mad he is to blame for the shambles that now runs through the club
@@user-oz3ps5mp6v Regardless of what you think of the man, he does not have to do this and I think it's great that he does
@@OhmydayysThat was Orta and Rex arms but ok
Very impressed with that as an interview. Some good, searching questions and to be fair to Angus Kinnear, he answered them as fully as possible without trying to push blame elsewhere or breaching confidentiality. Well done all.
Angus was more open and honest than I thought he would be or needed to be.
It’s obvious we were hamstrung by Andrea’s lack of huge wealth, but I still give him credit. He tried, stayed too long, but as Angus said, it’s his business and it gets emotional (just look at us fans)
We’re in good hands, slow and steady, but I think they’ll make the team on of the big 8 again.
Kudos to him for actually coming through with the interview and not just pretending he couldn't make it.
He’s made a bigger fool of himself!!
He’s usually a lot more arrogant in his program notes, funny that
@@11Janho I thought he came across really well.
@@tempname4039 you would do,that why were in a mess……but, carry on truths hurts Kinnear is a Twat running MY football club….I really don’t want to deal with your valuation!!
@@11Janhohow are you working that out ?.
Fair play to Angus for coming on the show again, he was very honest. Fair play to Dan and Michael too, they were as strong with questions and subjects as they could have been. 💙💛
Helmet. Kinear is a cancer
I personally don’t think he was very honest
@@jordanbrown231cool story bro
@@dudeabides5807 mugged off on TH-cam by an account dedicated to a 25 year old film. Sound
@@jordanbrown231glad you're honest at least about being a mug
Absolutley love these annual Kinnear interviews, very insightful. Fair play to Angus for doing them. Keep up the good work TSB
He should be gone... Useless business brain
Great stuff guys and massive respect to Angus for his transparency. Running a football club is not easy and it's impossible to control the outcome of every decision that you make. He knows that the club made mistakes and now they can learn from them.
Insightful. Some of the greatest lessons in life are a product of failure. The response so far this season has been encouraging. Honest responses and respectful of our magnificent club.
MOT!
Kudos to Angus for coming on the show
Do you honesty think he wante to? Sacrificial Lamb
@@soulie5287this exactly, never learns does he, ffs
@@soulie5287He really doesn't have to. I don't know how many other CEOs offer up nearly two hours of their time for a completely unrestricted interview where they don't control the questions, but it can't be many.
So yes, he really wanted to.
Great work by the TSB .Thank you guys
Fair play to Angus! Gotta love his quote though just after an hour in that "Willy had a wobble" 😂😂
Great interview, lads. Really good to hear Angus’ views on the whole calamitous season - respect for turning up to answer questions: shit got real at the 1 hour point 😅
Quality interview. Well done TSB and Angus 👏
Having watched the whole interview I think Angus came across as honest and with the right intentions for the club going forward. He didn't try to hide from the mistakes made which led to relegation last season. I thought his rationale for some of his programme notes was interesting and valid; I'd never thought of the angle that yes - as a senior figure within the club - he did / does have a responsibility to 'big up' his players / employees on occasion...I think everyone would rather work for a boss who publicly supports and encourages them (whatever line of work they are in). Great interview and well worth a watch.
Well done Adam and the TSB. I thoroughly enjoyed this exposition of recent events and recent seasons. Adam could have ducked this one but he deserves a huge amount of credit for standing up and being counted. If I were his employer I would be extremely grateful for his work and professionalism. I hope the clear out of the rats and snakes puts us into a much stronger position and we can all be proud of our great club once again. MOT!
Who's Adam? 😬
Not even watched it yet - but fair play to him for coming in....updated comment to come after :))
Just watched : thought he was as straight forward as he could be - no real surprise revelations. I think we all knew what was going on and he admitted they should have got rid of marsch sooner and that Grazia losing the dressing room at Bournemouth - really good job by the TSB lads in pressing him - well worth a listen - favorite parts : Dan straight in with the Levi’s contract law quip and “we can have a healthy debate about me being a twat but I’m not a Tory ‘
I’m glad Farke is here and I’m glad orta has gone … MOT!
The least he could do considering he’s partly responsible for the mess we’re in.
Same
And he's owning up to his mistakes.🤷🏻
me too but neck like a jockeys bollox springs to mind
Well what did you conclude lol I was the same as you on first glance and I also haven't watched yet lol
Great interview....thank you to Angus for coming on and being open, honest and transparent. No excuses, no side stepping...deserved to stay on as CEO and gives me hope we are on the right track to getting back to the PL.
Good chat. Dan you did a great job because I'm sure that there were some points that you may have had to have held back a little.
Fair play to Angus for doing the interview, and it has been done at the correct time. He was careful and measured as you'd expect, and he was placed in sufficient discomfort, I'd say.
I'd love someone to watch this back (not me) and count how many times he says "ya know"
Fair to say at this stage that none of the players that left due to clauses will be welcomed back. The players that did stay are deserving of our respect.
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Thank you for appearing on The Square Ball podcast again, Mr Kinnear. Not many top clubs have a CEO willing to do this when things have been plain sailing, never mind when they have gone the way the last two seasons have for Leeds United. A brilliant presentation from the best in the business, thank you TSB!
Firm but fair interview. Fair play to Angus for coming on and fronting this.
Absolutely fascinating the whole thing. Well done TSB for continually getting him in (fair play for him showing up!) and solid questioning, very thorough, fair, professional approach to representing the fan base…🙌
Strong questions from the team and some good answers from Angus. Thanks for this.
Really interesting interview with an intelligent and honest CEO. I hope past mistakes have been learned from and aren’t repeated but it’s good to hear Angus take personal responsibility for some of the decisions that didn’t work out.
Can Angus play left back??
😂
Yes but he’ll refuse to do so in keeping with the tradition
Fair play Angus, not many (if any) CEO's would be prepared to be interviewed for 1hr 45 on our last few years! Thanks Dan/Michael
Great video, very interesting and enlightening to hear from the 'inside'. Kudos to Angus for doing these interviews and answering difficult questions with apparent honesty and love for the club.
Fantastic interview Lads, some great questions and points raised to Angus, who I have to say addressed everything you asked and did a good job of putting across the position the club were in last season and this season.
We don't for the most part understand how football operates internally and frankly how turbulent it can be so having some insight to that is always great.
Respect to both you guys at the Square ball and Angus for coming out and doing it MOT 👏
Excellent watch and fair play to Angus facing some awkward questions. Thought he answered everything with a straight bat. Takes some balls to face the music so respect to Angus. And great questions from the lads👏👏👏 Keep up the brilliant work guys! MOT 💙💛🤍
58:40 ‘you’d like to think the majority of the players at least retain their transfer fee’. In the context of if the club is relegated surely you have to account for the fact that in those circumstances the majority of players are unlikely to retain their transfer value because if they had performed at that level we wouldn’t have been relegated in the first place. In what possible scenario do we get relegated but the majority of the players have played well enough to still be valued at what we paid for them?
Fair play to him for doing the interview with regards the season we had, took some blows but took them on the chin, moving forward its left me feeling positive for the next few years at least .
We got relegated... He ha suffered no consequences
Great, balanced interview IMO. Well done to all. Think we needed that.
This was class! Thank you so much fellas AND Angus for this...
This was excellent. A very good interview from Dan and Michael, and a very honest and clear explanation from Angus. Tyler Adams has done himself no favours now it is clear what his behaviour was like after Leeds had really cared for him. I hope one day we are told what happened in the Palace game. But all in all, feel much more secure, informed and confident, so fair play to Angus here.
what from the palace game?
Really interesting interview and fair play to him he didn’t hide his feelings for about the conduct of Adams and Sini
Excellent interview TSB. Well done to all involved. Outstanding!
Why was it excellent? Did you gain anything other than being fooled by him…again!
@@11JanhoYou bring so much joy to the world. 😂
@@jonnysmyth1011 honesty is always the best policy…do you agree?
@@11JanhoOkay, I agreed with one of your comments below, but you seriously have nothing positive to say from that interview? What specifically do you think was "dishonest"?
@@jonnysmyth1011 In spite of Dan( Square Ball) probing and confronting the Twat Never answered a question ! You can agree or disagree that’s your prerogative, but are you deaf?Where do you point the finger to this mess we are currently dealing with? People like you? Get off the fence Jonny , someone is responsible as in the case when we were in the third tier with Bates etc etc …..
Really appreciate this interview, bravo to all 3 of you
Good interview, an unexpected Thursday night treat, thanks.
how would you know. you commented when the vid came out...
always look forward to this interview every year.
Well done Lads, time fly by listening to it to be fair.
Just gone through the comments, and I didn't spot one which wasn't positive about Kinnear, which considering the last two years, is a MASSIVE testament to his responses, and the great interviewing from the TSB gents. Good work all... MOT.
This was the best Square Ball podcast ever. Great questions from Dan and Michael and what Angus gave in return was both educational and illuminating.
Astonishingly good interview. Kinnear was surprisingly frank and revealing, without actually throwing too many culprits under the bus, other than Sinisterra, though clearly he thought that Orta was given too much freedom and really screwed up with some of the transfers. It is interesting though, that apparently Marcelo Bielsa wanted Aaronson, who turned out to be one of the most disastrous transfers, though perhaps not as disastrous for the club as Marsch, Kristensen and Firpo. Also interesting that he was surprised that so many of the players whose transfer value declined over the season wanted out after relegation rather than stay and fight for promotion. Also interesting that he thinks that Sinisterra is still potentially worth more in the transfer market than what Leeds paid for him. My overall impression though was that the club is in competent hands and that a return to the premiership within 3 years is very possible.
Great interview square ball and as everyone is saying fair play to him for coming on the show !
What a great interview! Very honest. I feel the club is finally in a steady footing. Great manager and some great players in. We will be a lot bette off in the long term. Only blot is the left back situation which beggars belief.
Great Interview! respect to all 3 of you. gonna be a good season! Lets go!
Fantastic interview, fair play to Angus & TSB boys, direct hard hitting questions and no dodging the bullets by Angus.
To be honest I fell out of love with football and Leeds United over the past two seasons, after following Leeds for 53 years. Maybe ive started healing my broken heart.
Well played guys, firm without going too far and credit to him for coming on after last season.
Great stuff. Informative and feel better about things going forward now 💪
Listened on audio, can't praise the interview well done to all 3 of you! Got these annual interviews down to a tee now.
Is the word “enough” missing after interview?
The words "Jesse Marsch" And "Sucess" should never appear in the same sentence.
First competitive job sacked from the company he lived for, definition of failure
Great interview and fair play to Angus in fronting up. Definitely see him in a different light now.
Well done for getting him on guys and asking the difficult questions, and kudos to him for doing it. Some interesting points in there we didn't know which shed some light on why seemingly crazy decisions were made. Ive always felt Angus has the best interests of the club at heart and hope this is the start of a new trajectory for the club. Daniel Farke hit the nail on the head when he said we need to get back to what we lost when Bielsa left. The club, board, Management and fans all as one. MOT
I admire the leadership of attending this interview.
However, thinking March’s first season was a success is delusional. The regression was clear for all to see. We stayed up in spite of Marsch, not because of Marsch. Keeping him was the key mistake.
It’s not delusional if you look at from the point of view of the target that season was for Marsh to keep us up. He was successful at that. He was still a rancid manager though who shouldn’t have been given the job of m the first place
completely agree. even his wins were lucky. Norwich 94th minute goal, Watford could have gone either way, Wolves away on that Friday night 2-0 down they go down to 10 men and thankfully collapsed, Brentford when we stayed up they went down to 9 men in that game. Man City battered 4-0, Chelsea came beat 3-0 us didnt have a shot on target, Aston Villa beat us 3-0 didnt have a shot on target. warning signs were there
The key mistake was selecting him as the successor for Bielsa in the first place. The kind of player we had, that Bielsa liked were completely different from the type of player Marsch needed. Bringing him in as anything more than a short term project made no sense and Orta deserves the blame. By doing this Orta set the players, the club, and even Marsch himself up for failure. We had a team made up of half Marsch ball players and half Bielsa players. Which meant we couldn't carry out either style effectively.
@@leemitchell3302mate did you watch the back half of the season? Something in terms of play style should materialise in a third of the season, personally I was neutral to keeping him on but some of the rumoured names otherwise were far more preferable.
@@Donners329 I think you might be missing my point mate! The boards target for marsh in that last part of the season was to stay up, we stayed up so they will see it as successful. They had a target for him, we met it while he was in charge.
Now my own opinion is most appointments could have done the same, I even think Bielsa would have sorted it if he’d have stayed so I’m not giving marsh credit for it, simply looking at why Angus would view it as successful.
Respect to Kinnear for coming on and overall was as open and honest as he could be regarding everything and didn't shy away from owning the mistakes. It's very easy and cynical as fans to question the loan release clause but ultimately the long term safety, under the previous owner would have been in jeopardy, which none of us want. I do think too much power was given to Orta post bielsa which hopefully has been rectified now with the new structure. Overall I think Angus has sincerity and dignity and does want us to succeed, yes he has made mistakes but he is the only one who's here to try make amends so let's see where we are in 12-18 months.
Incredible interview asking lots of deep routed questions too which we've all been begging to get answers on. Very impressed with the questions and Angus' responses!
One criticism was wouldn't of minded hearing a question about why we actually didn't sign a left back or if we wanted Hamer and that didnt work why didn't we go for another CAM? Potentially the missing piece this year if it doesn't work out.
Great interview and credit to Angus. He knew what was coming and didn't have to be shot at but conducted himself very well. No tiptoeing around the frustrations of the fans. Just brilliant interviewing by the cast of TSB. I think Angus needed a glass of water as definitely a lot of dry mouth noises coming from him. Don't mind someone fronting up in the face of adversity. Great insight into what has gone on. Thank you chaps for the compelling podcast 👍
Great interview and I look forward to seeing all the ideas in place in the future 👌🏻
Really good interview topics covered were exactly what was needed to known by us Leeds fans feeling go for the rest off the season after that MOT
Class from Angus, very sincere i thought. Loved the 'twat? But not ever a Tory' . Never going to directly throw Orta under the bus , but body language said a lot. His & the clubs intentions for the season look very positive. A little patience will pay off.
Great stuff guys... questions were direct and honest and respect to Angus for his honesty answering.. especially around transfers.. its not the club its the player.. and fair play get rid.. I thought that we needed to get through the transfer window.. to let Daniel and the squad crack on with the season.... MOT
Really enjoyed listening to this, you asked him some good tough questions but fair play to Angus, answered all of them
Excellent interview. Spicy yet appreciative questions! Increased my already high esteem of you guys, and increased my valuation of AK. We still won't get auto promoted. We're not the only decent team in the CS
Great interview and much more respect for AK after that ..
and a big up to the square ball boys …
Massive well done for securing this .
Excellent interview. Great questions and didn't leave a stone unturned without being overly aggresive.
Wow, super interview. Thank you guys, and big thank you yo Angus
Really enjoyed the interview, great job guys, and I actually like Angus Kinnear tbf, hopefully now we can concentrate on the season ahead.
Thanks team, difficult interview to conduct and you did so very well. Respect to Angus for fronting up
Great interview, well done Angus for fronting up and answering all the questions. I'm more positive about the season after listening to him. I'm glad he dispelled the nonsense that Bielsa didn't want new players. He wanted a new squad!
A very good interview. Love him or hate him, at least he came and faced up. How many other CEOs do that I wonder? Minor annoyances for me were that there was far too much Victor Orta chat and that you didn't ask the million dollar question. What really happened at half time against Palace? 🙂
Brilliant interview, very clear why certain decisions were made, whether right or wrong he gave us good insight into why. Feels good to get some answers.
Great interview,very honest answers and should give the fans confidence going forward.This club is incredible.M.O.T.
Very good interview. Questions were pitched just right.
Best bit: Master Kinnear “Dad, why don’t you just sign a left back!?” 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Give this man some credit for coming on here and talking and been honest
Credit is something this Man can never have
@soulie5287 what a stupid comment! He's come out and been honest! The man at fault is orta we all know he was the one dictating! Not seen orta or radz doing stuff like this
@@leesawyer323Honest my arse he was one of the 3 & knew exactly what was going on people are easily led by words.
@mick6370 yet other 2 have gone he still there.... no people aren't easily lead by words donut!! Least he's had the balls to go on and do this! Wheres orta the MAIN man who fucked us up where radz don't see them doing these?? Listen to what he says about Adams and sinisterra
@@mick6370"He knew exactly what was going on" you say. What does that sentence even mean?
Great interview. And hats off to you Angus for putting yourself out there. Bold prediction at the end.
Fair play to Angus for having the bollocks to put himself in the firing line here.
About time?
@@Ohmydayyshe has done it for a few years now and has come across as genuine and has answered everything we’d asked. Noones done perfect but he’s been the most chivalrous in his approach out of the gang. My opinion
@@Cranndaddy being the best of a bad bunch isn’t an achievement, he should never work in the game again. All happy with him because he speaks like an MP👍🏼
@@OhmydayysYou wonder at the intelligence of some in the fan base.
@@jonnysmyth1011 can’t be people that actually care about the club, the money we’re paying for that circus
Great interview and respect to Angus for doing this. Well done.
One omission lads: you did not ask Angus if Nick Hammond will be retained for a permanent job. That is a very relevant and current question of great interest.
Brilliant interview guys. Great questions. Fair play to Angus.
Brilliant interview guys thank you
Fantastic interview and I'm proud of Angus. Tough job but faces it head on. I think he's spot on in terms of supporting professional footballers that want to be at the club, irrespective of form. Support features on both sides.
Fabulous interview. Very honest and admitted where mistakes were made.
Fabulous that he realises his mistakes almost three years too late, another serial loser it seems
When the Leeds board sacked Bielsa all the questions were all wrong. Results had been awful and fans were asking why is Bielsa doing this and that? Bielsa hadn't changed, but the board hadn't listened to him and acted on his advice. It is quite obvious now that the problem was the board, the owners and directors and not Bielsa. The board acted shamelessly in sacking him when they were entirely at fault. Hang your head Angus, you were there on the board. Et tu, Brute?
Problem is the big guy is too classy to slag from them off and they won't own up.
Was it not just an issue of money? Bielsa made it clear he had a 2 year plan (which he delivered perfectly) but the club would then need to provide the huge cash injection to overhaul the team with 50 mill plus players to stay in the premier league. Radrizani never had the wealth necessary to make this happen. It was never an option and therefore the outcome (failure to maintain premier league status) was inevitable. Had it been the 49ers who owned the club at that time things could have been different.
You say the board didn't listen to him and act on his advice.... his advice was to buy a new team. I've never heard such autistic advice as that in my life.
You cannot buy a new team at any time, much less in your second year as a premier league team.
If the 49ers had taken full control in the summer of 2021 then maybe they could have spent and bought enough good players to keep us going under biesla.
But for him to suggest buying a new team to his owner when he knows his owner hasn't got much money and we've not long come out of the championship. Is plain special needs 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Respect, great piece of work
For anyone who hasn’t seen, Radrizzani is complaining about Angus on twitter because of this interview, clearly he’s been back on the Pinot and just can’t let it go
Well done to the Square Ball and Angus, I thought it was a very honest and interesting interview, good questions no messing about, well done. Know a bit more now and feel good for this coming season. I think Farke will be our ace card probably the best signing from the board so far. MOT with the 49ers.
Great interview and TSB did great
Well done Angus, you wouldn't get many CEO's doing this kind of interview, and some very honest responses, and some good points on Junior training and actually wanting to play for the club and the abuse of Bamford.
Really good interview. Fair play to Angus
Fair play for the last two years of turmoil landing us exactly how he found us, but more skint. Charlatan
Respect to Angus for doing this. Seems more humble and honest this time round, hoping we're on the right track now. Mot
Great interview! I loved it when Angus said when people call me a "Tory Twat on the street, we can have a healthy debate about the twat, but I'm not a Tory" . Brilliant, a lot of respect for him. He seems to genuinely care, and if he's not a Tory, than all the better :)
Great by Angus. Well done all and good to hear. Have some confidence around the club
I commend Angus’s honesty