As a ballroom jive, social jive, and swing dancer, I've been thoroughly confused about how the lindy hop and boogie woogie are different. This was enlightening
My girlfriend and I have been dancing Lindy Hop for many years, but we always struggled to get the proper boogie feel when we tried to adapt our dance to the music. The exercises in your video have been incredibly helpful, but to me personally, it immediately clicked when I saw your diagram with the bounce amplitudes. Thank you a lot for your efforts, and I really hope there is more to come in the future :)
Thank you for this wonderful dance lesson, coming from a 20+ year lindy hopper. Sometimes I will dance with a boogie like movement because of the music but your lesson has helped me distill some of what gives it the boogie distinction. This has been so helpful!
Very interesting! Being a long time Lindy Hopper and Boogie dancer there were a few new things to me. But I would like to add that one of the essential differences is the emphasis on the beats. Both dances uses a syncopated tripple/chassé step since the music is mostly syncopated, but classic swing music commonly has the emphasis on the odd beats so Lindy has the stretch and emphasised, but also cool, backrock. Boogie music more commonly emphasize the even beats so the step emphasis becomes the last step in the tripple.
Have you ever been to Herräng (in Sweden)? I am an old timer in dancing (began dancing in 1980, and between 1983 and 1993, I took classes in Herräng at 5 summercamps in total), who don't have much with the dance camp as such to do, but still as I now live here since a three years back, I have come to help with the build of tents and similar, so maybe we will meet sometime in the future. I've never looked at my dancing with your sharp analyzing approach, so listening to you, I acctually get to learn a lot of what I've seen in difference, but never given it much attention earlier. Very nice tought by you. Big thank you. PS. People who I dance with, can't place me, as I don't look as a swing dancer nor a boogie dancer, but at my best still look pretty alright, I hope.
Great video. Question about the communities: which dance has bigger numbers worldwide? Would it be true to say that Boogie Woogie competitions are more prominent in the scene than Lindy competitions? Seems like several of the very top Lindy dancers came from a Boogie Woogie background.
From my experience, it seems to be regional! I've been dancing mostly Lindy and Blues for about 10 years in the US, and those certainly seem to be the two most common around me, but everyone I've known that knows boogie has spent a good amount of time in Europe!
Not quite. Boogie bounce just has more amplitude because of using feet (ankles) a bit more actively. But after lifting up you still push your foot down into the floor.
Exactly what i think it was Kuva think. Lindy Hop is what musicians say Lay Bag. I little later. And Boogie is straight or Driven. That is what the dancer do. When you see really good dancer you can sea that in Lindy Hop as well in boogie the adopting to the music. A spoke that with Stefan from the LA Lindy Hopper he said it like a style. The pulse of the music chance the dance. And when you have no pulse you have WCS.
As I mentioned in another comment, the difference in emphasis is key and it also makes it look like a difference in up/down when it´s like @kuvaswingdanve says, more a matter of amplitude.
As an American Lindy dancer of more than 35 years of teaching, competing, and judging and dancing obsessively, I can't help but think how silly the European interpretation our American folk dance, Lindy, is. Especially, considering that if you ask Gil Brady, whose California dance style is emulated by "Boogie Woogie", what dance he was doing he would tell you, "Lindy". Of course, Gil's dancing was so much more organic than the rigid expression of Boogie. Well, this is what happens when people try to codify our folk/street dance in a way that it can then be taught for money profit and promote rigid competitions. Strangely, I have, for the last 30 years used very similar basic patterns in my Lindy as I see used by Europeans in Boogie, namely pushes and side passes.
We are lindy hoppers who have been trying to learn boogie woogie for a year now. This video has answered so many questions we had. Thank you!
Fantastic content! Keep going.
Thank you!!!
8:33 is the most surreal thing I've seen.
WOW, Kuva, This video is really detailed and informative. I like every bit of it !
I really want to see more videos and topics like this one ! : )
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As a ballroom jive, social jive, and swing dancer, I've been thoroughly confused about how the lindy hop and boogie woogie are different. This was enlightening
Thank you so much. I’ve been doing Lindy Hop since the 90s and I’m hoping to try this when I go to Europe soon
My girlfriend and I have been dancing Lindy Hop for many years, but we always struggled to get the proper boogie feel when we tried to adapt our dance to the music. The exercises in your video have been incredibly helpful, but to me personally, it immediately clicked when I saw your diagram with the bounce amplitudes. Thank you a lot for your efforts, and I really hope there is more to come in the future :)
Finally an incredibly so difficult to find explanation of boogie. Thanks!!!
This was so helpful!! Thank you so much. 🎉
aways wondered what the difference was. boogie woogie looks different to lindy but the actual differences are subtle. many thanks
Thank you for this wonderful dance lesson, coming from a 20+ year lindy hopper. Sometimes I will dance with a boogie like movement because of the music but your lesson has helped me distill some of what gives it the boogie distinction. This has been so helpful!
Wow! Thanks a lot! Great stuff!!!
Thank You!
❤ I miss boogie woogie, our classes ❤
thankssss a lot. it's very useful and funny :)
Good content!
Really good educational video in an understandable simple and logical manner i'm here for it! Slava Ukraini!
Thank you!) Heroyam slava!
Very interesting! Being a long time Lindy Hopper and Boogie dancer there were a few new things to me. But I would like to add that one of the essential differences is the emphasis on the beats. Both dances uses a syncopated tripple/chassé step since the music is mostly syncopated, but classic swing music commonly has the emphasis on the odd beats so Lindy has the stretch and emphasised, but also cool, backrock. Boogie music more commonly emphasize the even beats so the step emphasis becomes the last step in the tripple.
great explanations. thanks for upoadig from germany
Where do you live?
Very good explanation
Have you ever been to Herräng (in Sweden)?
I am an old timer in dancing (began dancing in 1980, and between 1983 and 1993, I took classes in Herräng at 5 summercamps in total), who don't have much with the dance camp as such to do, but still as I now live here since a three years back, I have come to help with the build of tents and similar, so maybe we will meet sometime in the future.
I've never looked at my dancing with your sharp analyzing approach, so listening to you, I acctually get to learn a lot of what I've seen in difference, but never given it much attention earlier.
Very nice tought by you.
Big thank you.
PS. People who I dance with, can't place me, as I don't look as a swing dancer nor a boogie dancer, but at my best still look pretty alright, I hope.
🙏
Great video. Question about the communities: which dance has bigger numbers worldwide? Would it be true to say that Boogie Woogie competitions are more prominent in the scene than Lindy competitions? Seems like several of the very top Lindy dancers came from a Boogie Woogie background.
From my experience, it seems to be regional! I've been dancing mostly Lindy and Blues for about 10 years in the US, and those certainly seem to be the two most common around me, but everyone I've known that knows boogie has spent a good amount of time in Europe!
Feels like Boogie pulses upwards and Lindy pulses downwards.
Not quite. Boogie bounce just has more amplitude because of using feet (ankles) a bit more actively. But after lifting up you still push your foot down into the floor.
Exactly what i think it was Kuva think. Lindy Hop is what musicians say Lay Bag. I little later. And Boogie is straight or Driven. That is what the dancer do. When you see really good dancer you can sea that in Lindy Hop as well in boogie the adopting to the music. A spoke that with Stefan from the LA Lindy Hopper he said it like a style. The pulse of the music chance the dance. And when you have no pulse you have WCS.
As I mentioned in another comment, the difference in emphasis is key and it also makes it look like a difference in up/down when it´s like @kuvaswingdanve says, more a matter of amplitude.
As an American Lindy dancer of more than 35 years of teaching, competing, and judging and dancing obsessively, I can't help but think how silly the European interpretation our American folk dance, Lindy, is. Especially, considering that if you ask Gil Brady, whose California dance style is emulated by "Boogie Woogie", what dance he was doing he would tell you, "Lindy". Of course, Gil's dancing was so much more organic than the rigid expression of Boogie. Well, this is what happens when people try to codify our folk/street dance in a way that it can then be taught for money profit and promote rigid competitions. Strangely, I have, for the last 30 years used very similar basic patterns in my Lindy as I see used by Europeans in Boogie, namely pushes and side passes.