Okay, your theory is a part of my big theory, so let me expand your theory, fnaf is full a lot of same reference, trying to tie up everything is going to give crazy story that explain everything, but is so far off and a lot of time feel there still a lot of missing and now steel wool is expanding in fnaf world, this game is somehow canon, because its really a game haunted by ghost and being played by someone, the baby ending,the desk man, people think was scott, but is really henry look to dialogue, its show henry said his mind isn't right and he regrets creating something called baby, after room get black, now there Circus Baby voice in background and two yellow eyes in the hall, after returning henry is dead now look character of "old man consequence", do you even think why he called like this? , he is a old man regrets being resposible consequences we are facing now in ultimate custom we get old man consequence was trying make the vengeful spirit rest and left william to his demons, because there nothing left to do in princess quest we get help of old man consequence, its confirmed old man consequence being name "OMC", they are trying to refer to same character but now look to themes, old man consequence is theme by apperance of king of the castle, and castle has tree door showing us this whole place is the storyteller from tales of pizzaplex Edwin created the mimic1 after infusing his rage into it and running away for decades he come back, regrets a lot, asking for forgiveness he created something horrible, that can't be stopped anymore do you know the most shock thing in hw2?, its only single thing the vanny ending hw2 achievement, its named "CONSEQUENCES" Its totaly point out, Vanny was consequences created by Henry in the silvers eyes trilogy, henry regrets creating the charliebot and infused his emotions into them, the 4th charliebot was take by william and finished and became Circus Baby the named "Baby" isn't referring to the robot "Circus Baby", they are similar but diferents things, Baby is name of the program created by Henry, "Mimic1" the Puppet was created using the same program everything else tie up in fnaf encyclopedia, scott was trying to point why the puppet and vanessa has same phrase Puppet " its give you a false sense of security" Vanessa " its definitely give you a false sense of security" fnaf 6 Circus Baby voicelines “It feels like, my birthday. Did you have a gift for me?” Charlie birthday, fnaf 6 was a birthday party created by henry, “It feels like home..."- the same words used by 4th charliebot to talk about how charlie feels about restaurant stay all the time fnaf 6 final dialogue between, elizabeth to mike, the one she is reffering here as daddy, isn't william, but is henry “You played right into our hands, did you really think that this job just fell out of the sky for you? No. This was a gift, for us. You gathered them all together in one place, just like he asked you to. All of those little souls, in one place, just for us, a gift. Now we can do what we were created to do, and be complete! I will make you proud daddy! Watch, listen, and be full.” the fnaf 6 was a gift for "us"(she is meaning herself and Charlie) the reason why puppet doesn't talk to henry in fnaf 6, wasn't because this is sad ending, its because scott didn't want to reveal this whole time Elizabeth was AI mimicking Charlie and infused with remnant of charlie herself, in others words, its like john said A twisted version of charlie, Nightmarionne Charlie Voiceline in UCN "I don't hate you, but you need to stay out of my way.” the reason why charlie doesn't hate him, its because she has memories from elizabeth, so yeah, charlie was being his daughter, this only show how evil lunatic was william afton “Seeing you powerless is like music to me.” her goal is something else, but seeing him powerless is like music to her we know is the vengeful spirit is one torment william afton, but he isn't the only has power to brought dark memories from someone mind, eleanor did have same thing, similar backstory to what talk about before a twisted version of charlie, but in fazbear frigths is about a renelle Fnaf AR circus Baby voicelines "I am so glad that I found you...let me find room for you...inside..." "Shhhh..." FNAF UCN Lefty Voicelines "Shhhh...I'm so glad that I found you, let me make room for you." "Shhhh...I've been looking for you and now I will never let you go." they have same them lines, fnaf 6 circus baby didn't go there to help william, but to cut him into pieces CB UCN “Let's see how many pieces I can cut you into.” CB UCN “You won't die, but you'll wish you could.” in fazbear frigths eleanor trapped all her victim inside the ball pit, where she can repeat the memory and continue to play with them its the same thing happening in fnaf with Vanni network and nightmarionne and Vanny in fourth closet the only single 100% truth 4th charliebot said the whole book, she was still charlie john meet when they are kids, but from john point of view, he think she was lying they are still human, you can trust everything about a person, mainly about elizabeth, when loves pretend all the time being some way when she is really another, and always flipping hers emotion very fast who did you think is the one william afton shouldn't have killed? we know the one william afton shouldn't have killed is the vengeful spirit, but my question is who saying, why they refer as one victim and not the others, why they only anger at william because of one victim The one william afton shouldn't have killed is John from trilogy the bestfriend of charlie and elizabeth, the one they have crush off but he never got killed in the trilogy?, so how can it be him? exactly because he never got killed by william in the trilogy, so elizabeth still working for him but in the games, william killed him, so elizabeth is doing all this because she is simply impossible anger at william, she doesn't care about others, they already kick her out Security breach Trailer show William afton talking how he frist found vanessa she was small and pathetic now she is so much more the same phrase used by elizabeth to refer herself, small and pathetic In therapy cd, vanessa said something strange, no one did undertand not even myself, but after looking into it a lot she said she trapped her father william afton somewhere, there only two place william afton was trapped one in safe room, and another ultimate custom night, now she seeing him everywhere Vanessa was the one torment william afton in ultimate custom, she is likely the demons refer by old man consequence, let demon to his demons the reason old man consequence is allied from Vanny, and strange the golden princess we know is one opposite of william is a allied of vanny too Glitchtrap was able to escape from nightmarionne staff at control by vanny, and vanny is one put the buttons to betrayed burntrap and she one paiting the cassie route to the mimic in the dlc ruin everything go full cycle, there a lot of missing, but there no denied "CONSEQUENCES"
@@AngelTheory-M so I'm going to be honest, I didn't read all of it but what I read Showed me that you maybe onto something, you should make a video about this and if you do, just mention my name in the process ;^]
@@HOWSTTV yup, i am still working into it, problem is fnaf really big, i need started somewhere, its likely i will start from old man consequences, the video theory is going hour of duration, still working in drawing character to used, :)
Or you could make it into four videos and all of them add up to an hour, and that way your channel has more content but do what you want to do I'm sure it'll be great either way :)
I genuinely can’t believe this is one of your first theory videos, the quality is amazing! I love your evidence, editing, and theory overall. This and the next 2 vids currently up have helped me make sense of a lot of the new timeline. Keep it up man!
@@gerilyn thank you so much I've been training for over 2 Years for learning my part on the platform and I'm glad I finally found something that both me and all of you are passionate about, I've been wanting to make these kind of videos for such a long time but couldn't find the courage but the support has really inspired me to keep going so thanks :)
Yeah, this one of the truth, Mimic learns.. Mimic is have access to stuff, he know about RWQ. and other entities that was in orignal games.. About incidents and mini games from FNaF 3, like maybe he also would imitate story with FNaF 3 to Princess Quest... He have connection to all of this stuff, I would be not surprised if Springtrap/Scraptrap is not William Afton, but have connection with him.. So like Mimic build up the placement for Burntrap and hides his true body (with his AI system?) somewhere deep (like real William Afton does? Also, remember books, because in books he is too like got out from the costume a lot of times.. But.. Ok), then he would try to become new Afton or smth like that... Or maybe Mimic just used something like illusion on himself.. But still.. I don't know. Why is then Burntrap is feels like he is something else, but of course connected to the Mimic himself. But for now I don't know why is Burntrap in surrounding of Burners.. That makes low sense... But what if AI System stuff remembers that William have some agony-remnant of burn stuff.... Actually AI sometimes would be not that smart for build up things, but actually they could have something with agony-remnant soul powers, maybe some entities do?.. Well, kinda hard..!
While I do see the similarities between these endo bois and see a heavy connection I don’t think they’re parallels, but foils to eachother, similar to baby and the puppet Think about it One is run by souls, one is run by ai The good side of the stitchwraith (Jake) seems more dominant while the evil side of the mimic (glitchtrap) is the more dominant one Their origin stories also have this sort of contrast to eachother with one being made by a loving father and the other being made by a mad scientist
Yeah you are right you see as I said in my video I wanted to think that dual process was right about golden Freddy so I decided to find another explanation for stitchwraith which was linked to golden Freddy but yea as I said from a narrative stand point these guys are not the same you're right but I have to say if you're referring to afton as the mad scientist I don't think that's the case
Fuhnaff made a theory about that you should go check it out although there are some gaps in his theory because he believes the mimic is the Endo of baby but my question is how did mimic end up in ruin being locked away??!
@@HOWSTTV Gosh, I am *really scared* to say this. Like *TERRIFIED!* I think the Mimic has connections to the Crying Child. Either he is the Crying Child (housing his spirit) or was an early attempt by William to "put him back together". And his origins is eerily similar to Charlie's and Circus Baby's from The Silver Eyes trilogy using evidence from Fuhnaff's video(s) that you mentioned. Please don't hurt me. 🥺
@@Takejiro24 that's interesting but I think that crying child rests at happiest day Minigame during FNAF 3 and don't worry about sharing your opinion because we're all in this together ♥️:)
It’s all about the mimic now isn’t it? I’m so tired of it this doesn’t feel like Fnaf it just feels like terminator with edgy Furrys I want to see real horror not some edgy AI trying to be like some serial killer
@@dylanhudec979 every character has to have an arc and an ending Williams story Is over so they brought new villain into the series that is also related to one of the things going on in our world I actually admire their efforts of going a different route instead of just another William knock off that is vanny
Okay, your theory is a part of my big theory, so let me expand your theory, fnaf is full a lot of same reference, trying to tie up everything is going to give crazy story that explain everything, but is so far off and a lot of time feel there still a lot of missing and now steel wool is expanding
in fnaf world, this game is somehow canon, because its really a game haunted by ghost and being played by someone, the baby ending,the desk man, people think was scott, but is really henry
look to dialogue, its show henry said his mind isn't right and he regrets creating something called baby, after room get black, now there Circus Baby voice in background and two yellow eyes in the hall, after returning henry is dead
now look character of "old man consequence", do you even think why he called like this? , he is a old man regrets being resposible consequences we are facing now
in ultimate custom we get old man consequence was trying make the vengeful spirit rest and left william to his demons, because there nothing left to do
in princess quest we get help of old man consequence, its confirmed old man consequence being name "OMC", they are trying to refer to same character
but now look to themes, old man consequence is theme by apperance of king of the castle, and castle has tree door showing us this whole place is the storyteller from tales of pizzaplex
Edwin created the mimic1 after infusing his rage into it and running away for decades he come back, regrets a lot, asking for forgiveness he created something horrible, that can't be stopped anymore
do you know the most shock thing in hw2?, its only single thing
the vanny ending hw2 achievement, its named
"CONSEQUENCES"
Its totaly point out, Vanny was consequences created by Henry
in the silvers eyes trilogy, henry regrets creating the charliebot and infused his emotions into them, the 4th charliebot was take by william and finished and became Circus Baby
the named "Baby" isn't referring to the robot "Circus Baby", they are similar but diferents things,
Baby is name of the program created by Henry, "Mimic1"
the Puppet was created using the same program
everything else tie up
in fnaf encyclopedia, scott was trying to point why the puppet and vanessa has same phrase
Puppet " its give you a false sense of security"
Vanessa " its definitely give you a false sense of security"
fnaf 6 Circus Baby voicelines
“It feels like, my birthday. Did you have a gift for me?” Charlie birthday, fnaf 6 was a birthday party created by henry,
“It feels like home..."- the same words used by 4th charliebot to talk about how charlie feels about restaurant stay all the time
fnaf 6 final dialogue between, elizabeth to mike, the one she is reffering here as daddy, isn't william, but is henry
“You played right into our hands, did you really think that this job just fell out of the sky for you? No. This was a gift, for us. You gathered them all together in one place, just like he asked you to. All of those little souls, in one place, just for us, a gift. Now we can do what we were created to do, and be complete! I will make you proud daddy! Watch, listen, and be full.”
the fnaf 6 was a gift for "us"(she is meaning herself and Charlie)
the reason why puppet doesn't talk to henry in fnaf 6, wasn't because this is sad ending, its because scott didn't want to reveal
this whole time Elizabeth was AI mimicking Charlie and infused with remnant of charlie herself, in others words, its like john said
A twisted version of charlie, Nightmarionne
Charlie Voiceline in UCN
"I don't hate you, but you need to stay out of my way.”
the reason why charlie doesn't hate him, its because she has memories from elizabeth, so yeah, charlie was being his daughter, this only show how evil lunatic was william afton
“Seeing you powerless is like music to me.”
her goal is something else, but seeing him powerless is like music to her
we know is the vengeful spirit is one torment william afton, but he isn't the only has power to brought dark memories from someone mind, eleanor did have same thing, similar backstory to what talk about before a twisted version of charlie, but in fazbear frigths is about a renelle
Fnaf AR circus Baby voicelines
"I am so glad that I found you...let me find room for you...inside..."
"Shhhh..."
FNAF UCN Lefty Voicelines
"Shhhh...I'm so glad that I found you, let me make room for you."
"Shhhh...I've been looking for you and now I will never let you go."
they have same them lines, fnaf 6 circus baby didn't go there to help william, but to cut him into pieces
CB UCN “Let's see how many pieces I can cut you into.”
CB UCN “You won't die, but you'll wish you could.”
in fazbear frigths eleanor trapped all her victim inside the ball pit, where she can repeat the memory and continue to play with them
its the same thing happening in fnaf with Vanni network and nightmarionne and Vanny
in fourth closet the only single 100% truth 4th charliebot said the whole book, she was still charlie john meet when they are kids, but from john point of view, he think she was lying
they are still human, you can trust everything about a person, mainly about elizabeth, when loves pretend all the time being some way when she is really another, and always flipping hers emotion very fast
who did you think is the one william afton shouldn't have killed?
we know the one william afton shouldn't have killed is the vengeful spirit, but my question is who saying, why they refer as one victim and not the others, why they only anger at william because of one victim
The one william afton shouldn't have killed is John from trilogy the bestfriend of charlie and elizabeth, the one they have crush off
but he never got killed in the trilogy?, so how can it be him?
exactly because he never got killed by william in the trilogy, so elizabeth still working for him
but in the games, william killed him, so elizabeth is doing all this because she is simply impossible anger at william, she doesn't care about others, they already kick her out
Security breach Trailer show William afton talking how he frist found vanessa she was small and pathetic now she is so much more
the same phrase used by elizabeth to refer herself, small and pathetic
In therapy cd, vanessa said something strange, no one did undertand not even myself, but after looking into it a lot
she said she trapped her father william afton somewhere, there only two place william afton was trapped one in safe room, and another ultimate custom night, now she seeing him everywhere
Vanessa was the one torment william afton in ultimate custom, she is likely the demons refer by old man consequence, let demon to his demons
the reason old man consequence is allied from Vanny, and strange the golden princess we know is one opposite of william is a allied of vanny too
Glitchtrap was able to escape from nightmarionne staff at control by vanny, and vanny is one put the buttons to betrayed burntrap and she one paiting the cassie route to the mimic in the dlc ruin
everything go full cycle, there a lot of missing, but there no denied
"CONSEQUENCES"
@@AngelTheory-M so I'm going to be honest, I didn't read all of it but what I read Showed me that you maybe onto something, you should make a video about this and if you do, just mention my name in the process ;^]
@@HOWSTTV yup, i am still working into it, problem is fnaf really big, i need started somewhere, its likely i will start from old man consequences, the video theory is going hour of duration, still working in drawing character to used, :)
Or you could make it into four videos and all of them add up to an hour, and that way your channel has more content but do what you want to do I'm sure it'll be great either way :)
@@HOWSTTV thanks :)
I genuinely can’t believe this is one of your first theory videos, the quality is amazing! I love your evidence, editing, and theory overall. This and the next 2 vids currently up have helped me make sense of a lot of the new timeline.
Keep it up man!
@@gerilyn thank you so much I've been training for over 2 Years for learning my part on the platform and I'm glad I finally found something that both me and all of you are passionate about, I've been wanting to make these kind of videos for such a long time but couldn't find the courage but the support has really inspired me to keep going so thanks :)
@@HOWSTTV Good job on finding what you’re passionate about and good at, not every does. I can’t wait to see what you do next!
It makes sense, huh never thought of this....
Yeah, this one of the truth, Mimic learns.. Mimic is have access to stuff, he know about RWQ. and other entities that was in orignal games.. About incidents and mini games from FNaF 3, like maybe he also would imitate story with FNaF 3 to Princess Quest... He have connection to all of this stuff, I would be not surprised if Springtrap/Scraptrap is not William Afton, but have connection with him.. So like Mimic build up the placement for Burntrap and hides his true body (with his AI system?) somewhere deep (like real William Afton does? Also, remember books, because in books he is too like got out from the costume a lot of times.. But.. Ok), then he would try to become new Afton or smth like that... Or maybe Mimic just used something like illusion on himself.. But still.. I don't know. Why is then Burntrap is feels like he is something else, but of course connected to the Mimic himself. But for now I don't know why is Burntrap in surrounding of Burners.. That makes low sense... But what if AI System stuff remembers that William have some agony-remnant of burn stuff.... Actually AI sometimes would be not that smart for build up things, but actually they could have something with agony-remnant soul powers, maybe some entities do?.. Well, kinda hard..!
While I do see the similarities between these endo bois and see a heavy connection I don’t think they’re parallels, but foils to eachother, similar to baby and the puppet
Think about it
One is run by souls, one is run by ai
The good side of the stitchwraith (Jake) seems more dominant while the evil side of the mimic (glitchtrap) is the more dominant one
Their origin stories also have this sort of contrast to eachother with one being made by a loving father and the other being made by a mad scientist
Yeah you are right you see as I said in my video I wanted to think that dual process was right about golden Freddy so I decided to find another explanation for stitchwraith which was linked to golden Freddy but yea as I said from a narrative stand point these guys are not the same you're right but I have to say if you're referring to afton as the mad scientist I don't think that's the case
@@HOWSTTV I wasn’t, in the books the stitchwraith was put together by this guy and who wanted to see if agony could bring something to life
Is this going to cover what I think it's going to? Am I no longer going to alone with my crazy ass speculation?! Let's watch and find out! 👀
So what do you think now after watching it?
@@HOWSTTV Nice theory. I'm more curious than ever if The Mimic has origins similar to Charlie and Baby in The Fourth Closet. Can't wait to see more.
Fuhnaff made a theory about that you should go check it out although there are some gaps in his theory because he believes the mimic is the Endo of baby but my question is how did mimic end up in ruin being locked away??!
@@HOWSTTV Gosh, I am *really scared* to say this. Like *TERRIFIED!*
I think the Mimic has connections to the Crying Child. Either he is the Crying Child (housing his spirit) or was an early attempt by William to "put him back together". And his origins is eerily similar to Charlie's and Circus Baby's from The Silver Eyes trilogy using evidence from Fuhnaff's video(s) that you mentioned.
Please don't hurt me. 🥺
@@Takejiro24 that's interesting but I think that crying child rests at happiest day Minigame during FNAF 3 and don't worry about sharing your opinion because we're all in this together ♥️:)
It is was funny but insightful
Cassidy is not the name of the crying child
I still think Cassidy ≠ C.C
@@Shadowmouse1277 that's debatable and I'll be making a video about that for sure but my personal thought is cc wasn't one of the missing children
Cassidy is referred to as 'the one you shouldn't have killed ' , I don't remember William killing the crying child
Is Cassidy really referred to as the one you should not have killed?
The vengeful spirit yes but Cassidy no
I feel like matpat should react to this ❤
I don't think I'm either big or good enough for that but thanks for thinking so highly of me I appreciate your support❤
This is really good!
Thank you I tried my best :)♥️
@@HOWSTTV Yeah good job, I think it's very interesting.
😂😂😂
It’s all about the mimic now isn’t it? I’m so tired of it this doesn’t feel like Fnaf it just feels like terminator with edgy Furrys I want to see real horror not some edgy AI trying to be like some serial killer
@@dylanhudec979 every character has to have an arc and an ending Williams story Is over so they brought new villain into the series that is also related to one of the things going on in our world I actually admire their efforts of going a different route instead of just another William knock off that is vanny
@@HOWSTTV that’s even worse
I agree… the ai stuff is getting childish