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Watch the entire series and you'll understand why they didn't listen to her. It truly sucks and yes, they could have caught him in time, or at least prevented more murders.
I can only imagine how hard it has been for both of these women to ever trust a man again to any degree. Frankly they deserve every cent they make off that book and documentary. They were victims in their own way, too.
@@jaysonb.6669 Your comments are inappropriate and conspiratorial. It's not appropriate for the government to profile people based on their genes. Ted Bundy has a brother who has done nothing wrong and is a mostly peaceful kind guy. Just because a family member does something heinous does not make the entire family guilty.
Debi Barrington - It's refreshing to read your comment. I am a single mom and that is exactly what I am doing, and it seems so rare! It astounds me how many single moms lead a parade of men through their children's lives. I just can't do that to them. I may sound extreme but my motto is "better safe than sorry".
Liz is the person who ultimately reported him to the police as a suspect and that counted in the long run and helped them catch him. Bless her heart, she's really the reason that he got on to the police's radar.
@@kailashpatel1706 absolutely. But that had to do with the times. In that era there were not communications between jurisdictions. The Bundy case is the one that changed that. Now there's a lot of inter jurisdiction communication and sharing of information.
Lily Collins said in an interview that she talked to Liz and noted everything she told her and went through the list and asked Liz what was allowed in the movie. Liz may not have wanted it put in. But idk it’s just a theory
Don't project and don't categorize her. She just looks sad when speaking about victims which is natural and just shows she has empathy. Doesn't necessarily mean she is ''broken'', she might well-adjusted person in her life, we don't really know.
Amanda McGregor She didn’t have a life with him. If anything we wanna know why the mum of his kid ( 2nd wife isn’t it) stop sticking around him after his was charged (or confessed) I want to know if the kid even knows that’s her dad !! That woman stuck with him through everything but then just disappears??? I think it’s very strange as to why she just stopped seeing him, maybe she knows something. Or she just realised he’s a nut job and left but still, would be very interesting. 🧐
classicarah that’s good. She must of seen the true monster he was at that point. But I still wanna know why she believed him, what was it that made her believe him over all the evidence
None of this is Liz's fault. It matters not she was a single mum, it matters not she went to bars and it matters not she brought home a man into her own and her daughters life. 100 percent of the blame lies with Ted Bundy. I hope Liz and Molly find some peace and move on.
It wasn’t her fault but it wasn’t very wise to bring that men around her child the first night of her knowing she could’ve easily made one of the victims
@@CreativelyKia exactly. That's an easy way to put your child in the hands of a child predator. No one is gonna wave their hand around and say "yo! I like to abuse kids! Take me home with you!". To take any man home the first night you meet is stupid, even more so when you have a child . 🤦♀️Is she to blame that ted Bundys exist in the world? Of course not. But she is guilty of being complacent and not doing a better job of preventing herself and her child from being victims of one.
Yes the blame lies with Ted when it comes to his actions, however when they put the blame on him for how their own lives turned out, that's unfair. Liz was already an alcoholic before she met him due to her failed marriage
3:23 "What ever transpired at the beginning of his interaction with my mother, put her in a different category". Some of the wisest words i have ever heard. The first 15 seconds of every opening relationship with another human being, be it personal, business or otherwise often provides a good predictable platform on how it will evolve.
It's good to know we affect our world and the ppl in it... But it's good to know also that other ppl have free will and sometimes a calculating individual like him may have also constructed a family life to appear normal to buy more time to do what he really desired... Sometimes we're manipulated and put in a bind. It's sad. If you're in one (a bind or trapped in a violent or emotionally Manipulative relationship or even just in an elevator with a violent offender!), it would be a big mistake to fercely rely on the idea that ppl all bleed together and we can move them to become benevolent. We need to have healthy boundaries like knowing we're the only person we can truly change. Then your time and energy is not being spent on trying to vibe that person into goodness but protecting yourself by leaving, fighting for your life, running away, learning self-defense etc. I've been there. I believe based on who he is she did nothing to preserve herself except be available to be a family person. I believe he chose her with the intention of making him appear normal.
Also this implies the other girls Did something in the first 15 seconds to push the relationship in the direction of getting raped tortured and killed. So.... Boundaries?
@@youtubingbabs My personal opinion on this matter is that the reason why she was not targeted by this mentally unstable man was because A) she aproached him to begin with & B) her opening comment was "you look lonely". This i believe instantly appealed to his inner insecurity & offered a kind of contentment he found no where else. Could you expand on your idea of boundaries please?
@@youtubingbabs It was not what they did that lead to the following, it was what he was seeking that did so. No matter how a Gazelle hops or hollers the feline specie will always see it as it's prey.
@@Chyoonz boundaries is knowing what's in your power and what's in other people's power. To be relatively healthy you would not inappropriately try to control other people or their lives. Like if I'm someone's boss and pay them to be polite at my store... And theyre rude I can surely tell them to behave differently or I will fire them. If I have a friend who's rude to me, I could say... You're rude. Tell them be nice or this and that. Shame them "you're a pig! Or an oaf!" Or even get violent. But that solves nothing. Boundaries come in here... It's not appropriate to tell someone how to behave socially. I might tell them. "When you speak to me that way, it hurts my feelings or I lose respect for you and don't want to spend time with you." Then if they stop you know it's out of respect or love for you and not because they fear your wrath. If they don't change or improve... You know your feelings aren't a priority and you can then chose to continue on with them. If you keep asking more than 2 MAYBE 3 times you are now inn the wrong because it's another example of manipulation through being pushy or harassing. So boundaries help you not be play the victim role after an initial "assault" so it's not that you're ignoring you're influence on someone... Or theirs on you. It's just that by placing responsible on the right person you're lessening delusions of influence. You don't get to determine the "correct" boundaries but there are societal standards... BUT you ultimately get to set your own boundaries.
He definitely was a handsome white male for most women at that time. He was very charismatic and always smiling which made women fall head over heels to him.
Mr Choo That’s your modern day opinion. It would be extremely difficult for him to operate the same way these days. At the time women from around the country were coming to his side. For his time, he is consider good looking and charming. It’s not a difficult scenario to understand.
They are victims. These two women were not kept out of love, it was his attempt of a cover as a normal person. He chose a woman with a daughter, so that as he acts nice towards a woman with a daughter it would make him look kind and perfect.
His attractiveness was what made his so good at what he did. It's not a case of people finding him attractive it's that he was the perfect mixture for the perfect killer
@@spac18 - it's easy to be wise after the fact and it's a bit presumptive to assume that you would be more clued up than the 20-30+ women who didn't see him as a threat at the time. We have a tendency when shown the photograph of a known serial killer, particularly one has vicious, prolific and notorious as Ted Bundy, to experience repulsion and ascribe it to particular features (eg. dead eyes) when it's really just the person's history and actions that repulse us, and if we'd saw him before he was notorious we'd probably not regard them with repulsion.
@jack brandt I've heard some crazy things about politicians. Politics is a cut throat industry and can get very serious and dangerous.. We don't normally get inside information about who is doing what and why. Thanks for sharing, will do some research on them.
They say you've probly encountered a serial killer at least once in your life and either the timing wasnt right or you didnt fit what they were looking for in a victim. That's a terrifying reality check.
They were and still are victims of Ted Bundy. Molly just looks haunted and is obviously still very affected by it. She obviously loved him and coming to terms with who he really was must have been shattering 😔
What a wonderful woman Molly turned out to be! Poised, articulate and pragmatic. I hope she found real love in her life after the horrid realization that the "father" she loved betrayed her and her mother. Her inner strength radiates from her. Her resilience in the aftermath of it is amazing! What an amazing person! I hope she became a mother herself. Her kids would have to be awesome themselves. Wow!
I think a part of him desired to have a piece of normalcy in his life that’s why he never killed any of his girlfriends. He wanted to be in relationships, he wanted to have a family.... But he also wanted to keep a dark secret of murdering girls. It’s like after he would commit those crimes, he wanted to have something to come home to, a sense of stability. He liked living two lives.
The documentary on prime falling for a killer just watched yesterday with these two ladies in it. And I was fascinating to hear their experiences. And they are definitely survivors & living victims. They interviewed the sister and mother of a victim those two women broke my heart.
I remember when the news came out about his targeting college aged women with long dark hair, parted down the middle & that description fit me. I was living in Colorado too, where he had killed at least a few. So terrifying! I had my hair cut shorter, parted it on the side & put a henna dye on my hair to alter my appearance for a while.
I find it sickening how so many people blame Liz, there were actually people on Facebook blaming her for everything. Liz and Molly were a victim too. You can see it in there eyes. Liz was manipulative by him, both of them were for years. Ted put on a mask, but towards the end I believe both of them saw that Ted was truly evil. I'm glad both of these woman spoke out. You can tell how saddened they are by everything. My heart goes out to these two brave woman. ❤️
I've watched tons and tons of nonfiction documentaries on serial killers and there is no certain look you absolutely cannot tell sometimes!! Sometimes it's pretty obvious somebody is crazy but a lot of times it is not
It's so interesting. The highly intelligent Narcissists are very skilled and practised at choosing their prey. They know how to be charming and disarming, or assess you to present themselves as the man of your dreams. They never show the ugly true self at first or they wouldn't be successful.
@@caroliner2029 - I actually don't think that Bundy was that bright - he used his real name at the Lake in Washington when he lured the two woman away to horribly murder them. That was when he first appeared on law enforcements radars as after the Ted sketch was released his partner contacted law enforcement to put him forward as a suspect. Obviously they didn't apprehend him and he moved to Utah at this point. The reason Bundy was so successful was that he murdered in different jurisdictions at a time when inter-jurisdictional cooperation was poor to non existent, he moved to different areas after a series of murders Washington → Utah → Colorado → Florida, the incompetence of LE in Colorado allowed him to escape and go to Florida where he went berserk at Florida State Univ and ended his reign of terror with the murder of Kimberly Leach, and the lack of any CCTV or other electronic devices capable of identifying his presence at abductions/killings. LE's inability to deal with such a prolific and mobile killer was his greatest help. Though hiding the bodies successfully prior to his Florida rampage was his most "intelligent" tactic but that was a product of his desire to revisit the corpses and indulge in necrophilia and not as an avoidance tactic.
It's a bit unfair to call Liz 'unsuspecting'. After Lake Sammamish and the introduction of a sketch, a first name and a vehicle, she did the right thing and voiced her suspicion to law enforcement.
I could not help but notice even Liz and Molly and most of the other media have failed to mention the other 12 yr old girl Bundy killed, Lynette Culver. I think it is sad how she has almost completely been overlooked while Kimberley Leech has gotten all the attention. Both these girls were just children.
The thing is Liz did - she got in touch with police a number of times after the murders of the two women at the lake (when he used his own name and attempted to lure 7 or so other girls/women before he succeeded) and the police released a "Ted" profile picture.
@@ettydavis--I'm always hearing about unemployed boyfriends babysitting, and the mother coming home to find her baby unconscious and rushed to the hospital, where they find brain damage and a bunch of half-healed broken bones. Later, the child is a vegetable strapped to a wheelchair.
not all men on dating apps are dangerous. ive met a very good one recently. i got the luck of the draw. but rather you meet someone in person or online theres Still a risk
Online dating is horrifying! Join a group, a club, a sports team, a bible study, or whatever, but you and your children are a target for online scammers...
When Liz is asked if she ever thought he would kill her, her “no” isn’t true / is deceptive. She had decided that whatever happened that they would go through it together. She chose to be with him regardless. She says so in her book. She knew people would be disappointed in her and she stayed with him anyway. She told Mary-Lynne that she had to do what she had to do. She didn’t care about her own life and it was more important to her to be with Ted. She didn’t even consider her daughters safety. She called the police but she was against them the entire time. I get that cognitive dissonance and the CPTSD from gaslighting is crazy making and brutal. It’s just disturbing that she put Ted above and before her own life and the life of her child. I’m confident she would have stayed with him if his law suits fell through, even if he was killing people. It’s disturbing and aggravating. Never be so open minded that your brains fall out.
my kids will NEVER be left unattended. its sad that we have to do so much and be so scared because of PEOPLE. the worlds a good place, its the people on the world that make it 'bad'.
They say he used them as a cover; yet he had the chance to kill her the first time they met. He didn't. There must have been something about her and Molly that stopped or intrigued him. She must have made him feel something. Him pushing her off the raft was probably more an impulse move. In that moment, he saw someone else and not the woman he cared for. It wasnt because he wanted to kill her specifically, but because he was facing a brain fog conflicted with his lack of impulse control in that moment. I've studied serial killers, and many of them have that one person they keep. It's weird. When you look at the woman, they are usually very kind, soft spoken, have an airy or naive personality. Possibly subserviant and caring. For instance, look at the Green River Killer's wife. Hell, even my aunt's ex husband killed 3 people and she literally reminds me of these women. It's a trait. I for one know I wouldnt be kept😅
@@tatum2739 I'm not sure. Some of the women he killed he never even spoke to. Like those girls in the sorority house. Yes, many of the girls he killed willingly went into his car. They trusted him. But that was the culture back then. People didn't even lock their doors
Writing my paper on Bundy - it’s so sad seeing the photos of there ‘family’ they looked all so happy. What could make a man put his entire family who he loves at risk by going on a murder spree. I do believe he loved liz and loved molly like a daughter. He would take her to school and be pretty much a dad to her. It must be so hard for them especially molly where she sees this man as a dad and has to in a way mourn him when she finally finds out who he was.
ApplePie did you watch the documentary? He did messed up things with the daughter. He got naked while playing tag with her and other messed up things. That disgusting monster didn’t know how to love let alone show it towards those 2 women
He didn’t love them. He was incapable of truly loving anyone but himself because he had a personality disorder and was psychotic. He only used them to appear normal to other people by cultivating a normal wholesome family oriented lifestyle. Essentially Liz and Molly were used as a cover so he could continue to kill without looking suspect.
I think because he also developed a relationship with his then girlfriend and her daughter that he viewed them as actual human beings unlike is victims - he viewed them as prey with no emotional connections
I was able to read her book the phantom prince and it is a really good and well written account of meeting Ted Bundy and the aftermath of it. If you can get ahold of it I recommend reading that book if this interests you.
It's really hard to have any respect for Liz when she said she was so convinced that Ted was sick he called the Police repeatedly. Also, friends report that Liz would have horrible fights with Ted about how inappropriate he was with Molly!! And she tell CHOSE to keep hm in her house and life! Molly says it's hard to trust because of what happened with Ted. Blame your mom, Molly. She was once of those tragic women who put a guy first
What could she say?? I’m sure it’s shameful & embarrassing to her that he’s her Father, she can’t really speak on his character because she didn’t really spend that much time with him & he died when she was so young. Besides, I heard that she changed her name so it would be pointless to speak out at this point because her anonymity would’ve been a waste.
Ann Rule (author of The stranger beside me book) said his portrayal as the older Ted was spot on. But young Ted as he was when she met him was far less self confident.
She takes her daughter away from the father for a better life...gets drunk at a bar, and brings home a stranger/murderer for an overnighter with the daughter home? These women keep pointing the fingers at everyone else and not taking responsibility for how stupid they are.
As a comment on the previous part of this video said, he was not just a serial killer. He was a serial rapist too. That cannot and should never be understated.
@@spac18 work on my comprehension skills? Lmao. Bless your little cotton socks. It isn’t my fault you misread my whole comment. See yourself out mate. I’m not in the mood to interact with you today. 😂
Wow, living with him took a physical tole on both of them. The girlfriend especially. I cant even imagine how they felt after learning it was him. I dont think he spared them because he loved them, there had to be another reason, a selfish one. Scary~
How ironic that life has given him two female daughters, one from each marriage he had. I always wonder what he would thought if someone did the same he did to all those girls to them. If he felt any empathy at all for them at least.
Must be very unsettling, what they have experienced and lived through. Bundy and his attachment to Liz/her daughter reminds me of a video I saw once of a lion that adopted a baby gazelle; it was normally prey, but the lion saw it as family and imprinted on it as though it was family, while still viewing the rest of the bovine species as prey.
As the daughter said, they were in a different category ... Maybe he really loved them - in his own crazy way. Come to think of it, if I could get my sex-addict neighbour to pose for a black & white pic in an old Volkswagon ... Hell the simularities give me shivers down my spine, I kid you not!
They were safe in a way because their friends and family knew of their relationship obviously and if Ted violently murdered either of them, he'd be the prime suspect. All his victims were strangers with no connections to him or his inner circle. However, the rafting incident where he pushed her off, if successful in that she drown, could've been explained as a "rafting accident" and Ted knew that.
@@steez5769 well said. I suspect that pushing Liz off the raft was a boundary pushing behaviour. He might have been toying with the idea of making her his next victim, if he was bored of her and Molly. It was certainly a manipulation for an emotional response, for "fuel" which is the Narcissist's lifeblood. It asserted control over her in that moment, so Bundy would have gotten a dopamine hit to the brain. I heard Liz say that she thought that Bundy loved her. HG Tudor explains that Narcissists will say they love you only as a manipulation, although unaware Narcissists will believe that they mean it. Bundy was self-aware, and highly intelligent, and incapable of loving or bonding with anyone.
The mother still believes that he loved them but the daughter believes that he was just smart enough not to kill them. This kind of killers lose control at some point I mean if he wanted to kill them and he was just trying to keep himself from doing it, at some point maybe in a fight or something he would have lost his temper and kill them too. It just doesn't make sense to me that he didn't love them and he was doing everything with smart moves
Forgive me please for perhaps asking a rude question. The Mother sits frozen in one position, with her head tilted. Does she have mobility problems? Has this been mentioned already?
Why not make some money, I bet all of you have watched documentarys and TV shows about this mad man that have been made over the last couple of decades. Why should TV companies make money off him and not people who were close to him and suffered the most. (apart from the victims obviously)
I think the only reason he did not kill the two of them was because he knew he would be caught. Yes I do think he put them in a different category compared to the others, however, when push comes to shove, he would have killed them in the end if he thought he would get away with it
This is message for every girl right here ... the stranger is stranger don’t believe anything that he said don’t go with him...even if he a good lookin man ..stay safe queen...bless ya❤️❤️
I am horribly over trusting. It has led me to marry or have a long term relationship with some truly evil men. At my point now, I don’t ever want another relationship for the rest of my life
@@IntheBayCA every one had a bad experience in their life and some of them worst than u , please don’t give up , there still good ppl out there and there’s a lot of guys gonna give u them hearts, u have to just wait for the right person, and u will find him , I’m pretty confident, cuz ur a beautiful woman and u deserve that perfect guy ,take care .
One of Bundy's neighbors said that once he was taking the trash out, he saw this man trying to get into Bundys door, he didn't recognize him, the strange guy looked up, it was Bundy. Neighbor said he looked totally different even transformed. The was a confirmed night when he was out hunting......If you look at some of his photos, you can tell a few different features about him.
Interesting that both of them dyed their hair blonde and cut it shoulder length. He was known to prefer brunettes with long hair.
TheScarecrowBB whoa yeah
That was the first thing I thought as well.
Women tend to lighten their hair as they age to cover their grey hair it's very common, as far as the style I like the long better too
I noticed that too!!!
One of the first things I noticed!
Wow! Unbelievable, she called the police multiple times and they let him go each time!! Could have prevented alot of deaths!! SMH!
Watch the entire series and you'll understand why they didn't listen to her. It truly sucks and yes, they could have caught him in time, or at least prevented more murders.
They had no evidence and could not keep him
@Dianne Lo--Wasn't there an Internet just for businesses and universities or something like that? I don't know.
So was she stl with him then and if so why would she stay with him if she knew who he was unless she was too scared to leave
G Chong that’s a strong statement
I can only imagine how hard it has been for both of these women to ever trust a man again to any degree. Frankly they deserve every cent they make off that book and documentary. They were victims in their own way, too.
Arlene Hill absolutely!
Hell yeah! It's hard for me for the men I've been with lol !
Right. You ladies really know how to pick 'em!
Simon Randall you are probably one of those r/niceguys huh? Saying something so stupid
@@KurooTori Yup. Thats me. At least I never butchered 30 women. Or any people for that matter. Keep picking losers sweetheart!
I feel so bad for Molly. Ted was basically her dad for years.
Molly's cognitive dissonance would be intense.
Almost five years...
He has a real daughter Rosa from his wife Carole Boone. The girl changed her name and no one has heard from
@@jaysonb.6669 Your comments are inappropriate and conspiratorial. It's not appropriate for the government to profile people based on their genes. Ted Bundy has a brother who has done nothing wrong and is a mostly peaceful kind guy. Just because a family member does something heinous does not make the entire family guilty.
These two women are survivors of a manipulative individual and as such should be given all the sympathy and understanding as possible.
I fell bad for molly when I found out she was sexualy abused by ted
Watch the documentary and you'll see how many red flags any person with a brain would've noticed.
@@lilmissmonsterrr I know that Bundy did to molly
@@aparnarajesh I wasn't talking to you 😉
@@aparnarajesh NANI?! She was? I thought Ted was completely merciful to both of them. I never heard or read anything about Ted sexually abusing Molly.
The daughter looks like a older Kristen Bell
I was just thinking that also
Yessss
Ikr.
Momma, looks like a much older, Naomi watts too.....lol.
Yes, I thought so too
She’s really pretty
As a mother that scares the crap out of me.
tonya oakman wait til your children grow up and leave home befor dating if you need a man in your life ..
So glad I never had kids !!
Debi Barrington - It's refreshing to read your comment. I am a single mom and that is exactly what I am doing, and it seems so rare! It astounds me how many single moms lead a parade of men through their children's lives. I just can't do that to them. I may sound extreme but my motto is "better safe than sorry".
A. Banana - I didn't say it was.
Liz is the person who ultimately reported him to the police as a suspect and that counted in the long run and helped them catch him. Bless her heart, she's really the reason that he got on to the police's radar.
do you think the US Police could have done better and got onto this guy much quicker..?
@@kailashpatel1706 absolutely. But that had to do with the times. In that era there were not communications between jurisdictions. The Bundy case is the one that changed that. Now there's a lot of inter jurisdiction communication and sharing of information.
Thank god
Other people in his life reported him too
Ted pushing Liz off of the raft where she was sitting should've been included in the "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile" movie.
I agree!!
Lily Collins said in an interview that she talked to Liz and noted everything she told her and went through the list and asked Liz what was allowed in the movie. Liz may not have wanted it put in. But idk it’s just a theory
That was a poor film no action in it the 2002 film was way better
Isn't it on Netflix?
That could've been just anger related to their couple life, she was not perfect either and they fought a lot.
The daughter looks and sounds broken ... it makes me so sad
she comes over as a beautiful person as well..
Don't project and don't categorize her. She just looks sad when speaking about victims which is natural and just shows she has empathy. Doesn't necessarily mean she is ''broken'', she might well-adjusted person in her life, we don't really know.
i no right, the spotlight wouldnt help either
I wanna hear from his actual daughter
What do you think she has to say? Poor girl
Amanda McGregor
She didn’t have a life with him. If anything we wanna know why the mum of his kid ( 2nd wife isn’t it) stop sticking around him after his was charged (or confessed) I want to know if the kid even knows that’s her dad !!
That woman stuck with him through everything but then just disappears???
I think it’s very strange as to why she just stopped seeing him, maybe she knows something.
Or she just realised he’s a nut job and left but still, would be very interesting. 🧐
Why?she never even really spent time with him. I would say the step daughter was more his daughter.
Clary Fairchild they said she believed him up to the point that he confessed. After that she left him.
classicarah that’s good. She must of seen the true monster he was at that point. But I still wanna know why she believed him, what was it that made her believe him over all the evidence
He didn’t kill them because he’d automatically be deemed the prime suspect, the raft incident could have easily have been covered up as an accident.
MAT T God damn you should be a criminal psychologist....
🤯🤯🤯 wow!!
Most serial killers don't kill their family and they're also protective of them.
I wonder if he was practicing in case he needed to kill her. He was going to tell her wasn’t he?
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit my friend. But seriously, this show implies that it’s not completely obvious.
None of this is Liz's fault. It matters not she was a single mum, it matters not she went to bars and it matters not she brought home a man into her own and her daughters life. 100 percent of the blame lies with Ted Bundy. I hope Liz and Molly find some peace and move on.
Thank you.
It wasn’t her fault but it wasn’t very wise to bring that men around her child the first night of her knowing she could’ve easily made one of the victims
@@CreativelyKia exactly. That's an easy way to put your child in the hands of a child predator. No one is gonna wave their hand around and say "yo! I like to abuse kids! Take me home with you!". To take any man home the first night you meet is stupid, even more so when you have a child . 🤦♀️Is she to blame that ted Bundys exist in the world? Of course not. But she is guilty of being complacent and not doing a better job of preventing herself and her child from being victims of one.
Yes the blame lies with Ted when it comes to his actions, however when they put the blame on him for how their own lives turned out, that's unfair. Liz was already an alcoholic before she met him due to her failed marriage
Oh what a nice guy you are 😄
Side note: Penn badgley should have played him
100%...nail on the head
lol. Zack did good also
Mr T Raa true!
True Zac Efron did a good job tho! :)
but he doesn't look like ted at all
Bless her heart for truly giving his name to the cops even though he was so special to her. She saved the lives of many women
Not really, the cops ignored her. He got caught on his own.
@@reallyhappenings5597 yes but he was on suspect list
@@reallyhappenings5597 Not really, her insistence played a part in that. He got to the suspects' list/line-up because of Liz.
i no right, but she stayed with him while theese were happening
3:23 "What ever transpired at the beginning of his interaction with my mother, put her in a different category". Some of the wisest words i have ever heard. The first 15 seconds of every opening relationship with another human being, be it personal, business or otherwise often provides a good predictable platform on how it will evolve.
It's good to know we affect our world and the ppl in it... But it's good to know also that other ppl have free will and sometimes a calculating individual like him may have also constructed a family life to appear normal to buy more time to do what he really desired... Sometimes we're manipulated and put in a bind. It's sad. If you're in one (a bind or trapped in a violent or emotionally Manipulative relationship or even just in an elevator with a violent offender!), it would be a big mistake to fercely rely on the idea that ppl all bleed together and we can move them to become benevolent. We need to have healthy boundaries like knowing we're the only person we can truly change. Then your time and energy is not being spent on trying to vibe that person into goodness but protecting yourself by leaving, fighting for your life, running away, learning self-defense etc.
I've been there.
I believe based on who he is she did nothing to preserve herself except be available to be a family person. I believe he chose her with the intention of making him appear normal.
Also this implies the other girls Did something in the first 15 seconds to push the relationship in the direction of getting raped tortured and killed. So.... Boundaries?
@@youtubingbabs My personal opinion on this matter is that the reason why she was not targeted by this mentally unstable man was because A) she aproached him to begin with & B) her opening comment was "you look lonely". This i believe instantly appealed to his inner insecurity & offered a kind of contentment he found no where else. Could you expand on your idea of boundaries please?
@@youtubingbabs It was not what they did that lead to the following, it was what he was seeking that did so. No matter how a Gazelle hops or hollers the feline specie will always see it as it's prey.
@@Chyoonz boundaries is knowing what's in your power and what's in other people's power. To be relatively healthy you would not inappropriately try to control other people or their lives. Like if I'm someone's boss and pay them to be polite at my store... And theyre rude I can surely tell them to behave differently or I will fire them. If I have a friend who's rude to me, I could say... You're rude. Tell them be nice or this and that. Shame them "you're a pig! Or an oaf!" Or even get violent. But that solves nothing.
Boundaries come in here... It's not appropriate to tell someone how to behave socially. I might tell them. "When you speak to me that way, it hurts my feelings or I lose respect for you and don't want to spend time with you." Then if they stop you know it's out of respect or love for you and not because they fear your wrath. If they don't change or improve... You know your feelings aren't a priority and you can then chose to continue on with them. If you keep asking more than 2 MAYBE 3 times you are now inn the wrong because it's another example of manipulation through being pushy or harassing.
So boundaries help you not be play the victim role after an initial "assault" so it's not that you're ignoring you're influence on someone... Or theirs on you. It's just that by placing responsible on the right person you're lessening delusions of influence.
You don't get to determine the "correct" boundaries but there are societal standards... BUT you ultimately get to set your own boundaries.
Red flags are important everyone. Pay attention early please!!!!!
that’s GOD warning you💓💓
and HE is trying to help you always !
like being inappropriate with your daughter at 8
Wasn't this the journalist who tried to break the weinstein case years ago? And her bosses wouldn't let her? Kudos Elizabeth.
C 546799 really? Wow. I didn’t know. Thanks for writing that!
@@MariaM-mc7fs yeah, she was accidentally recorded on a 'hot' mike. She was piiiised. As she should be.
Really? She's the boss!
Ted Bundy was not handsome. I don't know why they keep saying that.
He definitely was a handsome white male for most women at that time. He was very charismatic and always smiling which made women fall head over heels to him.
Mr Choo That’s your modern day opinion. It would be extremely difficult for him to operate the same way these days. At the time women from around the country were coming to his side.
For his time, he is consider good looking and charming. It’s not a difficult scenario to understand.
Yes he was. And so was Dahmer.
Tigerlily Arcana no they wasn’t.
@@mysteriouscee1086 if I say they were handsome that means they were. My word is law.
They are victims. These two women were not kept out of love, it was his attempt of a cover as a normal person. He chose a woman with a daughter, so that as he acts nice towards a woman with a daughter it would make him look kind and perfect.
They missed a lot out of the movie, they should’ve made it a series
Conversations with a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes - Netflix
Y’all don’t understand that they put emphasis on him being an “attractive man” because anyone who seems “normal” could still be a serial killer.
His attractiveness was what made his so good at what he did. It's not a case of people finding him attractive it's that he was the perfect mixture for the perfect killer
He wasn't attractive at all, he looks dead in the eyes. If I see anyone looking at me like that, I would run to the hills.
@@spac18 - it's easy to be wise after the fact and it's a bit presumptive to assume that you would be more clued up than the 20-30+ women who didn't see him as a threat at the time.
We have a tendency when shown the photograph of a known serial killer, particularly one has vicious, prolific and notorious as Ted Bundy, to experience repulsion and ascribe it to particular features (eg. dead eyes) when it's really just the person's history and actions that repulse us, and if we'd saw him before he was notorious we'd probably not regard them with repulsion.
@@simonw1313 Nah, Ted Bundy always looked dead inside. He was so manipulative that he was able to hide his creepiness.
@@spac18 - Disagree.
Think of all the Ted Bundys you know. Chances are you’re probably friends or family with someone like that right now.
@Dαɾk Kíss Wow that must have been a crazy reality check. Many of us just don't know how evil people can be.
@jack brandt I've heard some crazy things about politicians. Politics is a cut throat industry and can get very serious and dangerous.. We don't normally get inside information about who is doing what and why. Thanks for sharing, will do some research on them.
They say you've probly encountered a serial killer at least once in your life and either the timing wasnt right or you didnt fit what they were looking for in a victim. That's a terrifying reality check.
Rebecca Massey Wow..
@@rebeccamassey337 I read that you'll see 6 in your life. Genuinely sure I've served some at my work to be honest.
They were and still are victims of Ted Bundy. Molly just looks haunted and is obviously still very affected by it. She obviously loved him and coming to terms with who he really was must have been shattering 😔
Imagine falling in love with a man who murders women, you let him be around your daughter. She is such a strong woman a survivor in her own right.
lovely women, nice personalities, they were victims too. Really respect to Liz and Molly❤❤ I feel lots of sympathy to them.
What a wonderful woman Molly turned out to be! Poised, articulate and pragmatic. I hope she found real love in her life after the horrid realization that the "father" she loved betrayed her and her mother. Her inner strength radiates from her. Her resilience in the aftermath of it is amazing! What an amazing person! I hope she became a mother herself. Her kids would have to be awesome themselves. Wow!
The name of the daughter is Molly?
@@Camila-oi7do Yes
I like her
Ok but the mom and daughter are BEAUTIFUL 💕
um.... daughter is cute, yes, but.... not the mom. no offence. lovely woman
Binged the series. Cried. Powerful. I'm a grown man.
and a crybaby
No shame in that! We men to get in touch with our emotions.
@@Synthpoptroubadour Quit trolling.
The fact that the girlfriend introduced herself first is why he didn't kill her..
Yeah he wasn’t the one seeking her out therefore she probably wasn’t his “kill type”
I think a part of him desired to have a piece of normalcy in his life that’s why he never killed any of his girlfriends. He wanted to be in relationships, he wanted to have a family.... But he also wanted to keep a dark secret of murdering girls. It’s like after he would commit those crimes, he wanted to have something to come home to, a sense of stability. He liked living two lives.
@@Adele5554 Yup
yup thats what i was thinking too. that was the “category” of what molly described
@@michaelacaleb7919 A strange variation of the "husband has a second woman" trope.
Molly Kendall is such a lovely, well-spoken lady.
The documentary on prime falling for a killer just watched yesterday with these two ladies in it. And I was fascinating to hear their experiences. And they are definitely survivors & living victims. They interviewed the sister and mother of a victim those two women broke my heart.
I just watched it today and thought both women were extremely articulate and full of insight.
1:26 This photo right here is why Zac Efron was hired, that photo of Ted looks shockingly like Zac
"DR. LAURA WAS ALWAYS RIGHT, REGARDING SINGLE WOMEN DATING WITH YOUNG CHILDREN"....
What was it?
Amen!
I remember when the news came out about his targeting college aged women with long dark hair, parted down the middle & that description fit me. I was living in Colorado too, where he had killed at least a few. So terrifying! I had my hair cut shorter, parted it on the side & put a henna dye on my hair to alter my appearance for a while.
I find it sickening how so many people blame Liz, there were actually people on Facebook blaming her for everything. Liz and Molly were a victim too. You can see it in there eyes. Liz was manipulative by him, both of them were for years. Ted put on a mask, but towards the end I believe both of them saw that Ted was truly evil. I'm glad both of these woman spoke out. You can tell how saddened they are by everything. My heart goes out to these two brave woman. ❤️
Thank you for sharing your story. I can only imagine what Elizabeth and her daughter have been through all these years.
I've watched tons and tons of nonfiction documentaries on serial killers and there is no certain look you absolutely cannot tell sometimes!! Sometimes it's pretty obvious somebody is crazy but a lot of times it is not
It's so interesting.
The highly intelligent Narcissists are very skilled and practised at choosing their prey. They know how to be charming and disarming, or assess you to present themselves as the man of your dreams.
They never show the ugly true self at first or they wouldn't be successful.
@@caroliner2029 - I actually don't think that Bundy was that bright - he used his real name at the Lake in Washington when he lured the two woman away to horribly murder them. That was when he first appeared on law enforcements radars as after the Ted sketch was released his partner contacted law enforcement to put him forward as a suspect. Obviously they didn't apprehend him and he moved to Utah at this point.
The reason Bundy was so successful was that he murdered in different jurisdictions at a time when inter-jurisdictional cooperation was poor to non existent, he moved to different areas after a series of murders Washington → Utah → Colorado → Florida, the incompetence of LE in Colorado allowed him to escape and go to Florida where he went berserk at Florida State Univ and ended his reign of terror with the murder of Kimberly Leach, and the lack of any CCTV or other electronic devices capable of identifying his presence at abductions/killings.
LE's inability to deal with such a prolific and mobile killer was his greatest help. Though hiding the bodies successfully prior to his Florida rampage was his most "intelligent" tactic but that was a product of his desire to revisit the corpses and indulge in necrophilia and not as an avoidance tactic.
@@simonw1313 thank you for your reply. I didn't know all of those details.
It's a bit unfair to call Liz 'unsuspecting'. After Lake Sammamish and the introduction of a sketch, a first name and a vehicle, she did the right thing and voiced her suspicion to law enforcement.
I say God bless all the victums hearts and souls!! No more glory to the killer! But peace and closure for the survivors of this gruesome animal!🙏🙏🙏
Amen.
Liz actually worked on Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile with Lily Collins and Lily said it was so insightful
I could not help but notice even Liz and Molly and most of the other media have failed to mention the other 12 yr old girl Bundy killed, Lynette Culver. I think it is sad how she has almost completely been overlooked while Kimberley Leech has gotten all the attention. Both these girls were just children.
Because he got the death penalty for Kimberly.
When you love someone and think they love you it's hard to see past that to the truth. 💔
The thing is Liz did - she got in touch with police a number of times after the murders of the two women at the lake (when he used his own name and attempted to lure 7 or so other girls/women before he succeeded) and the police released a "Ted" profile picture.
Thank goodness he did not hurt Elizabeth or her daughter, I am a single divorcee, which makes online dating horrifying.
Don't do online dating please.
Be careful, I meet a dooble low life man, compulsive gambler who traumatised me and my daughter for life
@@ettydavis--I'm always hearing about unemployed boyfriends babysitting, and the mother coming home to find her baby unconscious and rushed to the hospital, where they find brain damage and a bunch of half-healed broken bones. Later, the child is a vegetable strapped to a wheelchair.
not all men on dating apps are dangerous. ive met a very good one recently. i got the luck of the draw. but rather you meet someone in person or online theres Still a risk
Online dating is horrifying! Join a group, a club, a sports team, a bible study, or whatever, but you and your children are a target for online scammers...
When Liz is asked if she ever thought he would kill her, her “no” isn’t true / is deceptive. She had decided that whatever happened that they would go through it together. She chose to be with him regardless. She says so in her book. She knew people would be disappointed in her and she stayed with him anyway. She told Mary-Lynne that she had to do what she had to do. She didn’t care about her own life and it was more important to her to be with Ted. She didn’t even consider her daughters safety. She called the police but she was against them the entire time. I get that cognitive dissonance and the CPTSD from gaslighting is crazy making and brutal. It’s just disturbing that she put Ted above and before her own life and the life of her child. I’m confident she would have stayed with him if his law suits fell through, even if he was killing people. It’s disturbing and aggravating. Never be so open minded that your brains fall out.
👏👏👏👏👏
my kids will NEVER be left unattended. its sad that we have to do so much and be so scared because of PEOPLE. the worlds a good place, its the people on the world that make it 'bad'.
They say he used them as a cover; yet he had the chance to kill her the first time they met. He didn't. There must have been something about her and Molly that stopped or intrigued him. She must have made him feel something.
Him pushing her off the raft was probably more an impulse move. In that moment, he saw someone else and not the woman he cared for. It wasnt because he wanted to kill her specifically, but because he was facing a brain fog conflicted with his lack of impulse control in that moment. I've studied serial killers, and many of them have that one person they keep. It's weird. When you look at the woman, they are usually very kind, soft spoken, have an airy or naive personality. Possibly subserviant and caring. For instance, look at the Green River Killer's wife. Hell, even my aunt's ex husband killed 3 people and she literally reminds me of these women. It's a trait. I for one know I wouldnt be kept😅
Samie Smiles the majority of his victims were inexperienced, trusting, naive girls. He wanted girls he could overpower
@@tatum2739 I'm not sure. Some of the women he killed he never even spoke to. Like those girls in the sorority house. Yes, many of the girls he killed willingly went into his car. They trusted him. But that was the culture back then. People didn't even lock their doors
He probably saw the perfect victim that he could keep alive and use
She was a stable beard for him, a young single mother with low self-esteem and was a radical feminist in training, a terrible combination.
@@tatum2739 nah, an average guy can overpower 99 percent of all women, it's not that difficult.
Writing my paper on Bundy - it’s so sad seeing the photos of there ‘family’ they looked all so happy. What could make a man put his entire family who he loves at risk by going on a murder spree.
I do believe he loved liz and loved molly like a daughter. He would take her to school and be pretty much a dad to her.
It must be so hard for them especially molly where she sees this man as a dad and has to in a way mourn him when she finally finds out who he was.
ApplePie did you watch the documentary? He did messed up things with the daughter. He got naked while playing tag with her and other messed up things. That disgusting monster didn’t know how to love let alone show it towards those 2 women
He didn’t love them. He was incapable of truly loving anyone but himself because he had a personality disorder and was psychotic. He only used them to appear normal to other people by cultivating a normal wholesome family oriented lifestyle. Essentially Liz and Molly were used as a cover so he could continue to kill without looking suspect.
You can tell they been through so much, just by looking at them.
Oh yes they both look so traumatised
He was the perfect mixture for the perfect killer. He always had the one up and he had a smile that literally killed
How horrible to know you loved a monster. It would be a nightmare.
I think because he also developed a relationship with his then girlfriend and her daughter that he viewed them as actual human beings unlike is victims - he viewed them as prey with no emotional connections
Not really, they were his beards.
I was able to read her book the phantom prince and it is a really good and well written account of meeting Ted Bundy and the aftermath of it. If you can get ahold of it I recommend reading that book if this interests you.
Just finished reading that today,good read.
It's really hard to have any respect for Liz when she said she was so convinced that Ted was sick he called the Police repeatedly. Also, friends report that Liz would have horrible fights with Ted about how inappropriate he was with Molly!! And she tell CHOSE to keep hm in her house and life! Molly says it's hard to trust because of what happened with Ted. Blame your mom, Molly. She was once of those tragic women who put a guy first
They were lucky
This woman is so lucky he didn't hurt her or her child
I hope one day his daughter comes out to speak about him
Leave her alone... She probably wants nothing to do with a killer and knowing the public, they will show no mercy for her.
What could she say?? I’m sure it’s shameful & embarrassing to her that he’s her Father, she can’t really speak on his character because she didn’t really spend that much time with him & he died when she was so young. Besides, I heard that she changed her name so it would be pointless to speak out at this point because her anonymity would’ve been a waste.
I'm curious if she watched the movie
I think Ted died before she was born so I don’t think she’d really have anything to say about him.
@@amberrfaith Ted died when his daughter was 7 years old
I cant imagine what she felt when all the details of what he did came out... imagine having shared your bed with someone who had sex with corpses...
I want to go back and watch Zac Efron in Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil & Vile. His portrayal of Ted Bundy was so interesting.
LM085 not nearly as Gruesome as he really was
Ann Rule (author of The stranger beside me book) said his portrayal as the older Ted was spot on. But young Ted as he was when she met him was far less self confident.
you're interesting
She takes her daughter away from the father for a better life...gets drunk at a bar, and brings home a stranger/murderer for an overnighter with the daughter home? These women keep pointing the fingers at everyone else and not taking responsibility for how stupid they are.
That not why he spared them.he had already formed a bond thats why
As a comment on the previous part of this video said, he was not just a serial killer. He was a serial rapist too. That cannot and should never be understated.
She contraindicated herself. She said she was afraid to let him know she suspected yet she said she didn’t think he’d hurt them.
It be a different story if he knew she was calling the cops but honestly I feel they were just used as props.
Liz and Molly are so beautifull lovely women. ❤❤
lol
Her daughter is beautiful! I know she’s an older woman now but she really is quite stunning !
Lourde Alexander never said she was and I know that lmao that’s why I said “her daughter” 🤦🏻♀️
Cosmetic surgery
Doug H idc she still looks pretty
@@sdrfz the Kylie effect 😂
Neishas Crazyworld Kylie is still pretty too ?
i would hate to be ted bundys biological daughter. it be interesting to hear from her.
People do have two strong personalities
They said he was shy, so it was probably the constant affection. She was immediately smitten so he had no 'need' to force a fantasy.
I watched the movie about his case.
And I’m not going to lie. I actually partially fell for his act.
I thought he was innocent.
What? He was obviously guilty, just look at his eyes, he always looked a vacant shell of a man.
@@spac18 if you can’t read my comment. Don’t ask ‘what’.
I said. I partially fell for his act. Because of how manipulative and cunning he was.
@@katrinarivett5428 It's called not understand your thought process, not a failure to understanding your words. Work on your comprehension skills.
@@spac18 work on my comprehension skills? Lmao. Bless your little cotton socks.
It isn’t my fault you misread my whole comment.
See yourself out mate. I’m not in the mood to interact with you today. 😂
@@katrinarivett5428 whatever, you're irrelevant anyways
He also has a biological daughter. Rose Bundy.
Wow Molly is so gorgeous
Wow, living with him took a physical tole on both of them. The girlfriend especially. I cant even imagine how they felt after learning it was him. I dont think he spared them because he loved them, there had to be another reason, a selfish one. Scary~
Personally, I think his targeting of the women he targeted was to model the abuse he wished to inflict on the ones he loved. I could be wrong though.
I feel bad for his daughter
🌹 Rip 12 Yr Old Kimberly Leach Who Would Be 57 Now, 12 Yr Old Lynette Dawn Culver Who Would Be 60 and The 28 or Possibly More Other Victims. 🌹
can we take a moment to recognize the hair of the reporter. so nice
I can't believe she is finally talking with us. Bless them 😍
How ironic that life has given him two female daughters, one from each marriage he had. I always wonder what he would thought if someone did the same he did to all those girls to them. If he felt any empathy at all for them at least.
I don't think he would, he's was sociopath, he wouldn't have felt empathy.
Liz is beautiful and so is her daughter Molly. They deserved so much better. I’m thankful they made it out alive and unharmed.
Must be very unsettling, what they have experienced and lived through. Bundy and his attachment to Liz/her daughter reminds me of a video I saw once of a lion that adopted a baby gazelle; it was normally prey, but the lion saw it as family and imprinted on it as though it was family, while still viewing the rest of the bovine species as prey.
why do i watch these at night ?? 5:12 AM rn and I've been watching these all night . I CANT stop :(
How hard must it be for that young girl to blend into society.
Which young girl?
@@AnneOhn123 the daughter
As the daughter said, they were in a different category ... Maybe he really loved them - in his own crazy way. Come to think of it, if I could get my sex-addict neighbour to pose for a black & white pic in an old Volkswagon ... Hell the simularities give me shivers down my spine, I kid you not!
They were safe in a way because their friends and family knew of their relationship obviously and if Ted violently murdered either of them, he'd be the prime suspect. All his victims were strangers with no connections to him or his inner circle. However, the rafting incident where he pushed her off, if successful in that she drown, could've been explained as a "rafting accident" and Ted knew that.
@@steez5769 well said.
I suspect that pushing Liz off the raft was a boundary pushing behaviour.
He might have been toying with the idea of making her his next victim, if he was bored of her and Molly.
It was certainly a manipulation for an emotional response, for "fuel" which is the Narcissist's lifeblood. It asserted control over her in that moment, so Bundy would have gotten a dopamine hit to the brain.
I heard Liz say that she thought that Bundy loved her. HG Tudor explains that Narcissists will say they love you only as a manipulation, although unaware Narcissists will believe that they mean it.
Bundy was self-aware, and highly intelligent, and incapable of loving or bonding with anyone.
He didn't love them.
Interesting that the America media, always keeping this story of Bundy, fresh in people's mind and keeping his legacy intact.
The mother still believes that he loved them but the daughter believes that he was just smart enough not to kill them. This kind of killers lose control at some point I mean if he wanted to kill them and he was just trying to keep himself from doing it, at some point maybe in a fight or something he would have lost his temper and kill them too. It just doesn't make sense to me that he didn't love them and he was doing everything with smart moves
Liz was also pretty much supporting Ted. Ted always lived beyond his means. That may have been part of it as well.
narcissists cant love anyone
I’ve just read her book. Incredible woman.
Agreed
Incredible woman ????
@@Simona.2323 ?yes
Nah, just another reckless hippie
@@spac18 no
She still loves Ted Bundy. The different man who lived in that same body.
Thank you for posting this, ABC
why is her neck paralyzed like that ?
did she have a stroke ?
you're welcome
I'd have liked to hear from Carol, his wife. His daughter didn't know, but Carol knew, and I want to know what she was thinking
she's dead....
@@Sochickwlw123 She is? Pity.
@@nikkirivera5307 yea she was supposed to get interviewed but she suddenly just died
@@Sochickwlw123 how did you know she was gonna get interviewed?
@@shruti9668 I think one of her friends said
Imagine one of Ted bundy friend was actually the person that did all of this and Ted took the fall for it. That would be so crazy
I was thinking the same thing lol. Would be the biggest plot twist in history
Forgive me please for perhaps asking a rude question. The Mother sits frozen in one position, with her head tilted. Does she have mobility problems? Has this been mentioned already?
To think that the man they loves was such a monster is crazy
The reporter is beautiful 😍
Wow, this feels so random, interesting but why are they talking now?
She has a new book coming out.
I’d write a book too if this were me!
Ted Bundy was an interesting character
Money
Why not make some money, I bet all of you have watched documentarys and TV shows about this mad man that have been made over the last couple of decades. Why should TV companies make money off him and not people who were close to him and suffered the most. (apart from the victims obviously)
Her daughter is beautiful.
It had to been crazy to find out and, accept that her boyfriend was a serial killer. liz and her daughter are victims too
I think the only reason he did not kill the two of them was because he knew he would be caught. Yes I do think he put them in a different category compared to the others, however, when push comes to shove, he would have killed them in the end if he thought he would get away with it
This is message for every girl right here ... the stranger is stranger don’t believe anything that he said don’t go with him...even if he a good lookin man ..stay safe queen...bless ya❤️❤️
I am horribly over trusting. It has led me to marry or have a long term relationship with some truly evil men. At my point now, I don’t ever want another relationship for the rest of my life
@@IntheBayCA every one had a bad experience in their life and some of them worst than u , please don’t give up , there still good ppl out there and there’s a lot of guys gonna give u them hearts, u have to just wait for the right person, and u will find him , I’m pretty confident, cuz ur a beautiful woman and u deserve that perfect guy ,take care .
@@R97-c5h very kind of you. ☺️ Thank you
One of Bundy's neighbors said that once he was taking the trash out, he saw this man trying to get into Bundys door, he didn't recognize him, the strange guy looked up, it was Bundy. Neighbor said he looked totally different even transformed. The was a confirmed night when he was out hunting......If you look at some of his photos, you can tell a few different features about him.