The mans awesome. His jokes. Not the funniest but that's what makes it funny. His intellect. Yeah his wife and children are blessed to have him. God bless the man
@LightThatCigar How can I provide a coherent response for you when you seem incapable of understanding the simplest of things. when judging the reliability of any book one of the first things you would ask yourself is who wrote it and your answer is what does it matter. A set of books about Jesus that don't know his date of birth contradict themselves on who his grandfather is and claim 3 completely different phrases for his last words are not very reliable and it would seem the authors did not know Jesus at all so the telling point is not that we don't know who the authors are but that the authors were not Matthew, Mark, Like (🤣) and John. ooo look another typo
@LightThatCigar I am saying if he was the son of god he would be the most important man that ever lived so how come nobody knows his date of birth. Three kings or wise men visited and called him king of kings but did not record their visit or write a solitary thing about him. Joseph and Mary travelled back Bethlehem for the Roman Census but the Romans never made the people go back to their home town for any of their census and they had a few but none between the years 1BC or 1AD Matthew said Jesus war born in Bethlehem at the time of King Herod. Luke say it was while Quirinius was governor of Syria unfortunately Quirinius was not governor of Syria until 10 years after Herod’s death. Matthew said Jacob was Josephs father but Luke said it was Heli. There is no consensus but nothing at all was written about Jesus during his lifetime Theist's put the first writings at about 30 years after he was supposedly crucified non theists reckon it was later. is this critical enough for you?
@LightThatCigar Your ignorance is shining through. You can not refute anything I have said so the best you have is call it absurd nonsense that's been thrown around for 2000 years. What isn't absurd nonsense is that your claim can be refuted by a simple wiki search which provides the answer :- "In Christian tradition, the Four Evangelists are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, the authors attributed with the creation of the four canonical Gospel accounts. In the New Testament, they bear the following titles: the Gospel of Matthew; the Gospel of Mark; the Gospel of Luke; and the Gospel of John. These names were assigned to the works by the early church fathers in the 2nd century AD; none of the writers signed their work." The only thing you have managed to get right is the typo in my first post
I want to thank James White for showing me that I shouldn't trust people just because they can quote some parts of the Bible. We must dig to find the truth and not just take someone's word for it. Because of him and so many others like him, I started researching, dug through everything, and fact-checked him and many others (thanks, Google) until I found the truth.
I am so glad the Father said in his word that in the last day he would write his words on the tablets of our hearts. The 66 months has deem as the word of God has been alter multiple times. In addition, to leaving our multiple valuable manuscripts. The worker's of iniquities. Any thing that modern day men have touched they altered.
@@Pastor-Brettbyfaith Because I don’t believe that it would make a difference. I don’t preach. I respect your freedom to believe in the Bible and preach about it.
quote----Why not Gospel of Peter, Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of James not considered as scriptures?--unquote And am sure you never asked. Or every did any research!!! Tell me, if someone presented a parchment to you claiming it was 2000 years old, and that parchment is written that Jesus IS NOT the Son of God. Would you accept it as truth? ---That parchment is written that says Jesus was NOT crucified-----Would you accept it as truth?????? ----That parchment is written that says Mary Magdeline is the mother of Jesus. Would you accept it as truth?????? Why or why not??? Gospel of Peter, Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of James are not accepted because they CONTRADICT what IS accepted as truth!!!
And we KJB users are accused of being a CULT, of worshipping THE Bible. I always thought that it was THE WORDS that were IMPORTANT, and not the cover, or the smell.
Are the gospels legends? Another point is that on that view you would have to regard the accounts of the Man as being legends. Now, as a literary historian, I am perfectly convinced that whatever else the Gospels are they are not legends. I have read a great deal of legend and I am quite clear that they are not the same sort of thing. They are not artistic enough to be legends. From an imaginative point of view they are clumsy, they don’t work up to things properly. Most of the life of Jesus is totally unknown to us, as is the life of anyone else who lived at that time, and no people building up a legend would allow that to be so. Apart from bits of the Platonic dialogues, there are no conversations that I know of in ancient literature like the Fourth Gospel. There is nothing, even in modern literature, until about a hundred years ago when the realistic novel came into existence. In the story of the woman taken in adultery we are told Christ bent down and scribbled in the dust with His finger. Nothing comes of this. No one has ever based any doctrine on it. And the art of inventing little irrelevant details to make an imaginary scene more convincing is a purely modern art. Surely the only explanation of this passage is that the thing really happened? The author put it in simply because he had seen it. C.S. Lewis, "What Are We to Make of Jesus Christ?" (1950)
Well said James. My question for Pastor White is always the same. Where is faith in your presentation of the Reliability of Scripture? He always states that we can trust the manuscripts, but his sources (mss) are questionable. Codex Sinaiaticus is the one manuscript that MCT advocates lean on most, yet the manuscript itself is questionable with the inclusion of pseudepigrepha (Apocrypha, Shepherd of Hermas and Gospel of Barnabas). Not only is the manuscript full of holes, but it propogates false doctrine and is the exact source of the greatest division the church has ever known. If a translation was done without the use of Sinaiaticus, I would consider it. As it stands, I summarily reject Codex Sinaiaticus as a trustworthy manuscript. How can any spirit filled believer trust a manuscript that came from a monastery, that has been protected by Islam for more than 1,000 years and counting? The reason why I love and use the NASB in counseling is that the Lockman Foundation used all the manuscripts in translating the text. The inclusion of those texts that are in question is evidence of this. While they are bracketed, it is no different than the notes in the side column of the KJV. The Pericope Adultere', Latter Ending of Mark and Acts 8:37 are some key texts that were restored. This cannot be said for the NIV, CSB or ESV. How can we base our faith on a document that was given to us by Islam? Look for yourself on Google Earth and see the Quarter Moon symbol of Islam outside the wall of Saint Catherine's Monastery, as well as the Mosque inside the walls, designed for Muslims as a place of rest. I submit to you and all who read these words...Codex Sinaiaticus is a work of Islam. It was either written there or inserted by Islamic Clerics. That document was written by Satan! The division that it has caused in the church is devastating. How can it be trustworthy? The KJV, NKJV, MEV, Bishop's Bible, 1560/99 Geneva and others; these are the trusted texts that come from the Byzantine textual tradition. These along with Stephanus 1550 and Beza 1567 are all I need for serious study. I have a consistent family of manuscripts that agrees one with another, and produces the most trusted translation the world has ever known. ____ _____ _______ fill in the blanks. Blessings to you sir, in Jesus name.
@@Pastor-Brettbyfaith Brother, have you ever given any thought to the TRUTH that it is impossible for God to have two Bibles that Contradict each other? All the other versions teach false doctrine, and have in known errors.
@@whatsaiththescriptures quote---Brother, have you ever given any thought to the TRUTH that it is impossible for God to have two Bibles that Contradict each other? All the other versions teach false doctrine, and have in known errors.--unquote I suggest you say the same to Catholics-- What about their NEW bible? ---The New American Bible (NAB), originally published in 1970, is the first American lexicon-oriented Catholic Bible. The translation was compiled by Catholic scholars from the original biblical languages: Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic-as a base text instead of the Latin Vulgate. >>>>Do Catholics use the NASB Bible? New American Bible Revised Edition - Wikipedia Although the revised Lectionary based on the original New American Bible is still the sole translation approved for use at Mass in the dioceses of the United States, the NABRE New Testament is currently being revised so that American Catholics can read the same Bible translation in personal study and devotion that they ... >>>>Released on March 9, 2011, the NABRE consists of the 1986 revision of the NAB New Testament with a fully revised Old Testament approved by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops in 2010. OT (2011 revision): Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia with Dead Sea Scrolls and minor Septuagint influence. Doing research today-came across MORE changes the CC has done to the Holy Word of God!! Leviticus 25). The jubilee year was called every fifty years and was a time for forgiveness. That is according to the Holy Bible. The RCC says: How many years is a jubilee year? 25 years In the Roman Catholic Church, jubilees began to be celebrated formally in 1300 AD and are years of forgiveness of sins and reconciliation. They are celebrated every 25 years. The most recent year of jubilee was 2000. --CC says: How is this Jubilee different from other Jubilee years? The Jubilee of Mercy that Pope Francis has called, from December 8, 2015 - November 20, 2016, is an Extraordinary Jubilee. This designation as an "Extraordinary Jubilee" sets it apart from the ordinary cycle of jubilees, or holy years, which are called every 25 years in the Catholic Church. >>PLease, tell me who gave authority to any church to change what GOD has written?? And DO NOT say Peter!!!! btw--The Holy Bible DOES NOT mention any celebration called: Extraordinary Jubilee!!!
If the bible is inerrant how come the apostles quote the Old Testament septuagint 50 times over the hebrew masoretic text? If its inerrant how come it says both Jesus and satan are the morning star? Im no bart erhman, but u cant ignore his hour long lists of all its contradictions
Wow, God should have waited until we got all these computers, he would have been impressed. We probably would have a different Bible - Give me a break please.
He believes, but his faith is in the modern critical text. It is the word, but it is not complete. He even admitted that the Byzantine text is more full. Too bad that all that brain space is wasted on defending an incomplete text.
What would Jesus think of our totally academic ministers who pride themselves on their academic accomplishments instead of outreach to sinners? Yes, people who have not attended college get their "academic kick" from the intellectual talks by these college-educated speakers. However, what would Jesus think? Our young people certainly are not impressed because once they leave the family nest, they do not choose to go to church. Our "totally academic Christianity" is in its last days and formal Christianity will soon give way to informal Christianity!
quote---Do you realize Mr. Whyte that you are standing in Judgment of God's word?--unquote Do you realize all you had to offer was an opinion--which is worthless. NO scripture--NO facts
@@mitchellosmer1293 Thus saith the LORD; Stand in the court of the LORD'S house, and speak unto all the cities of Judah, which come to worship in the LORD'S house, all the words that I command thee to speak unto them; diminish not a word - Jeremiah 26:2 KJB. Mr Whyte can impress his listeners (including you) with his FOOTNOTE Bible. I heard Dr. MacArthur say the same thing, and he preached a FALSE message. So you can use whatever Bible you want. I will use the PRESERVED one.
@@whatsaiththescriptures quote---that is still your opinion--I listened to it 4 times now--heard the same words all 4 times!! But, apparently you expect everyone to be perfect. btw--I use the KJV--the one translated from the LATIN VULGATE !! I imagine you use the NABRE.
@@mitchellosmer1293 No sir, I do not expect ANYONE (least of all me) to be PERFECT. What Dod COMMANDS is that we PREACH THE WORD, not what Mr. Whyte believes should be in the word. God's word is either PERFECT or it is not, it is as simple as that. God has said: Let God be TRUE, and EVERY MAN a liar. Are you aware that Mr. Whyte has said that he will not preach from certain portions of scripture. Can you IMAGINE the God of TRUTH having a word FULL OF MISTAKES - Like some teach. - C'mon.
@@whatsaiththescriptures quote---No sir, I do not expect ANYONE (least of all me) to be PERFECT. --unquote Yes you do!! He may have misread what he wrote. He could have read what someone wrote for him. But, you give him NO slack!!! >>>>quote--- God's word is either PERFECT or it is not, it is as simple as that. God has said: Let God be TRUE, and EVERY MAN a liar.--unquote You want TRUTH?? try these : >>>About the catholic church: Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her,- she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."- "A Doctrinal Catechism," by Rev. Stephen Keenan, page 174. "The Catholic Church of its own infallible authority created Sunday a holy day to take the place of the Sabbath of the old law."- Kansas City Catholic, Feb. 9, 1893. "The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."- Catholic Mirror, official organ of Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893. "Ques.- Which is the Sabbath day? "Ans.- Saturday is the Sabbath day. "Ques.- Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday? "Ans.- We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A. D. 336), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday ."- "The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine," by Rev. Peter Geiermann, C. SS. R.., page 50, third edition, 1913, a work which received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius X, Jan. 25, 1910. What was done at the Council of Laodicea was but one of the steps by which the change or the Sabbath was effected. See under questions 17-21. The date usually given for this council is 364 A. D. >>>>>>Biblical Proof the seventh day (Saturday) IS the Sabbath Matt 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day....... Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, c Mark 15:42 - It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath). Mark 16:1-2 - When the Sabbath was over, Mark 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, and the Sabbath was about to begin Luke 23:56 Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment. Luke 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, .... John 19:31 Now since it was preparation day, in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one, John 19:42 because of the Jewish day of Preparation, since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. 42 And so, because it was the day of preparation for the Jewish Passover John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, Did God lie??? >>>>FACTS" --The ONLY day GOD RESTED ON--Seventh day!! Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD BLESSED--Seventh dayt---Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD SANCTIFIED--Seventh day--Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD NAMED--Seventh day--SAbbath--Isaiah 58:13 --The ONLY day GOD DECLARES as HIS HOLY DAY--Seventh day--Isaiah 58:13 PROVE THEM WRONG!!
Bart responded to a question in an interview: if we found an original autograph what would we have? he said "what we have now". Bart responded to an interviewer in the appendix of his 1st addition of the paperback book titled: Misquoting Jesus, that the variants in the Greek New Testament mss. do not affect the doctrines in the Bible in any meaningful way at all. Dan Wallace pointed this out in his debates with Bart Erhman.
quote---White is not a scholar, he is important just for american evangelicalism, you guys must invite a real SCHOLAR like Eahrman, and the like.--unquote How about a local priest?? Or the Pope??? LOL---
Mr. Whyte: The Pool of Bethesda is a FACT. YOUR opinion does not COUNT. Let God be TRUE, and every man a liar. I never realized you were actually present to know what they did - Wow.
The biblical scriptures are anything but reliable. There isn't one claim proposed in the bible that can be substantiated by evidentiary facts. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Go visit the holy land...they'll show you everything....Jerusalem....the temple mount...Mt. of olives....culture....hey I've got multiple degrees...so do your own homework instead of popping off
@user-rk1qo6wi5n What is one _evidentiary fact_ they will be showing me that demonstrates any claim in the scriptures to be true. State this fact in a complete sentence.
@@Theo_Skeptomai your standards are non reality based. They're you based. I've gotta lot of graduate units and degrees...lots of skeptical profs. Have no idea of what your point is....I've given you geography...culture...names.... How bout this homes....love your neighbor as yourself. Husband's love your wives as your own body...wives submit to your husband's as to the Lord...hmmm. as one who's got 40k hrs. in social work these are an infallible standard. Blessings to you
@user-rk1qo6wi5n My standards are not reality-based? Let's start with our definition of reality. I'll begin: Reality (Capital 'R') is the realm of all real phenomena. A real (little 'r') phenomenon is that which occurs at a particular point in space (location) at a particular point in time and is _observable_ at such location and time. This includes objects, events, entities, processes, substances, systems, and beings. If it occurs at a particular point in space and time and is observable at that point in space and time, it is a _reality!_ How do you define 'Reality'?
@@Theo_Skeptomai so how does little Emanuel Kant apply these definitions to what he wants others to obey. Tell me also how from pure matter rationality emanates. That is immaterial realities. Logic...beauty...justice...belief in God...dignity. ..love...oughtness...and any other Aristotlian categories. Also what is real...that which has spatial extension and anything that the Bible calls real of which is imperceptable...etc..We are getting adrift from your requirements of
@@craigime Does anyone really believe that God gave his word (singular) in about 900 Bibles, Manuscripts, FOOTNOTES, Verses not included, etc? Take heed what you listen to.
quote---Hes misleading people--unquote and all you have to offer is an opinion..Who cares about that?? Why not PROVE your opinion with bible scriptures???
@@AstariahJW quote----jesus said father is only true God John 17:3--So what does only mean ? Does that include 2 other gods?--------unquote There are people out there that claim Jesus is God. THen tell me. when Jesus was praying in the Garden of Gethsame (Luke 22:42 ) “Father, if you are willing, take this cup away from me-nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done.” WHo is Jesus talking to?? Himself??? On the cross-----John 19:11 11 Jesus answered, "You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin." Since Jesus is on the cross--who is Jesus talking about??? -----Luke 23:46 46Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Father, into your hands I commend my spirit”; and when he had said this he breathed his last. 47The centurion who witnessed what had happened glorified God and said, “This man was innocent* beyond doubt.” --Whom is Jesus talking about?? Himself??? I quote again from that verse," Father, into your hands I commend my spirit”; "--Jesus' SPIRIT!!! Father , Son and Holy spirit!!! ----Matthew 12:32 32:Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. -***Also: No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.· John 1:18 How many people have seen the face of Jesus??? 1000's!!!!
That wasn't a Holy Spirit filled comment. This is... And my response to you firstly, is then why are you here? Secondly, many enjoy his long talks. Especially intellectuals. They are enjoyable and go very well with his teachings, to many. So please, without rudeness, consider what I said.
@@DjSostre7 just saying this dude said all of that and showed no proof smh you can watch all you want not me. atleast ISUPK has the proof and truth.all praises to the most High for generald Yahanna
@@Messymathews90 he shows many texts/manuscripts of old that we have.... What the issues are concerning textual criticism, etc.. it's a great video; if you're interested that is. It gives much insight. Even Dr. Daniel b Wallace has some extended talks on the reliability of the new testament we have today here on TH-cam. Even if you don't agree with these newer versions, it still gives much information of how we have today what the apostles wrote. Good for defending the new testament against cults and atheists.
@@Messymathews90 bro you’re in a cult. Black Israelites are not saved or understand the gospel AT ALL. It’s a racist hate group designed to empower fragile black egos.
Praise be to God Almighty that he sends us teachers like Dr James White to proclaim Gods grace and sovereignty!
The God of TRUTH has warned to BEWARE of WOLVES in SHEEP'S clothing.
But where was Calvinism before 1509?
I love James White
The mans awesome. His jokes. Not the funniest but that's what makes it funny. His intellect. Yeah his wife and children are blessed to have him.
God bless the man
He seems like a satanist..
Is a friend of muslim..a trader of jesus
The reliability is Zero.
It’s a man made book with 1500 years by 40 different people.
Not sure how he’s still arguing!
@@thalesdinmilet2590 that is a lie and you know it; why slander?
Switching audio on your device to mono largely fixes the audio issue.
Great information.... but I wish I could view the screens he mentions
Cool! I was actually there for this one
20 mins in and I just had the 4th ad interruption 😭
Great video!
The audio is pretty bad. Can you at least make the left channel come out both? I mostly hear everything in my left ear.
I think the long ending of Mark is valid.
Tranmission=errant Bibles. 6:12
wow, always love dr james white
Is my phone speaker broken? Or is the audio quality bad?
Love this !
1:00:10 i guess the camera just stays stationary
If scriptures are so reliable who wrote Matthew, Mark, Like & John?
@LightThatCigar well for a start they are not eye witnesses but then evidence is never theist's strong point because they have none. 🤣
@LightThatCigar How can I provide a coherent response for you when you seem incapable of understanding the simplest of things. when judging the reliability of any book one of the first things you would ask yourself is who wrote it and your answer is what does it matter. A set of books about Jesus that don't know his date of birth contradict themselves on who his grandfather is and claim 3 completely different phrases for his last words are not very reliable and it would seem the authors did not know Jesus at all so the telling point is not that we don't know who the authors are but that the authors were not Matthew, Mark, Like (🤣) and John. ooo look another typo
@LightThatCigar I am saying if he was the son of god he would be the most important man that ever lived so how come nobody knows his date of birth. Three kings or wise men visited and called him king of kings but did not record their visit or write a solitary thing about him. Joseph and Mary travelled back Bethlehem for the Roman Census but the Romans never made the people go back to their home town for any of their census and they had a few but none between the years 1BC or 1AD
Matthew said Jesus war born in Bethlehem at the time of King Herod. Luke say it was while Quirinius was governor of Syria unfortunately Quirinius was not governor of Syria until 10 years after Herod’s death. Matthew said Jacob was Josephs father but Luke said it was Heli. There is no consensus but nothing at all was written about Jesus during his lifetime Theist's put the first writings at about 30 years after he was supposedly crucified non theists reckon it was later. is this critical enough for you?
@LightThatCigar Your ignorance is shining through. You can not refute anything I have said so the best you have is call it absurd nonsense that's been thrown around for 2000 years. What isn't absurd nonsense is that your claim can be refuted by a simple wiki search which provides the answer :-
"In Christian tradition, the Four Evangelists are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, the authors attributed with the creation of the four canonical Gospel accounts. In the New Testament, they bear the following titles: the Gospel of Matthew; the Gospel of Mark; the Gospel of Luke; and the Gospel of John. These names were assigned to the works by the early church fathers in the 2nd century AD; none of the writers signed their work." The only thing you have managed to get right is the typo in my first post
@LightThatCigar yet you can't prove anything I have said that is wrong but you're right you are a waste of time.
Wow😮
Shame on the sound/recording individual(s)
Sir, why don't you ever tell your audience that the verse is MISSING because there are TWO (2) sets of Manuscripts.
The Bible is the preseved inspired word of God.
I want to thank James White for showing me that I shouldn't trust people just because they can quote some parts of the Bible. We must dig to find the truth and not just take someone's word for it. Because of him and so many others like him, I started researching, dug through everything, and fact-checked him and many others (thanks, Google) until I found the truth.
So why are you trusting White?
Scrioture interprets Scripture.
The NA28 is not inspired.
God has said - His word is PERFECT.
Reliability is not the same thing as infallibity. 0:55
I am so glad the Father said in his word that in the last day he would write his words on the tablets of our hearts.
The 66 months has deem as the word of God has been alter multiple times. In addition, to leaving our multiple valuable manuscripts.
The worker's of iniquities. Any thing that modern day men have touched they altered.
The NA28 is not inspired.
How can a man speak about the reliability of Scripture when he himself endorses the critical text?
A contradiction
I would pay to see him and Bart debate again. Even better would love to see them discuss on JRE!!
Why not pray for Bart Ehrman's salvation? That should be our only goal in ministry. We preach the gospel of salvation in Jesus name.
@@Pastor-Brettbyfaith Because I don’t believe that it would make a difference. I don’t preach. I respect your freedom to believe in the Bible and preach about it.
Why not Gospel of Peter, Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of James not considered as scriptures?
Alexandrian texts from the vatican mystics. They are not christian books
Because the Church said so.
quote----Why not Gospel of Peter, Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of James not considered as scriptures?--unquote
And am sure you never asked. Or every did any research!!!
Tell me, if someone presented a parchment to you claiming it was 2000 years old, and that parchment is written that Jesus IS NOT the Son of God. Would you accept it as truth?
---That parchment is written that says Jesus was NOT crucified-----Would you accept it as truth??????
----That parchment is written that says Mary Magdeline is the mother of Jesus.
Would you accept it as truth??????
Why or why not???
Gospel of Peter, Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of James are not accepted because they CONTRADICT what IS accepted as truth!!!
If it isn't the perfectly inspired, providentially preserved, and unchangeable Word of God, then it should not be called "The Holy Bible"
It is preserved
Agreed.
And we KJB users are accused of being a CULT, of worshipping THE Bible. I always thought that it was THE WORDS that were IMPORTANT, and not the cover, or the smell.
Are the gospels legends?
Another point is that on that view you would have to regard the accounts of the Man as being legends. Now, as a literary historian, I am perfectly convinced that whatever else the Gospels are they are not legends. I have read a great deal of legend and I am quite clear that they are not the same sort of thing. They are not artistic enough to be legends. From an imaginative point of view they are clumsy, they don’t work up to things properly. Most of the life of Jesus is totally unknown to us, as is the life of anyone else who lived at that time, and no people building up a legend would allow that to be so. Apart from bits of the Platonic dialogues, there are no conversations that I know of in ancient literature like the Fourth Gospel. There is nothing, even in modern literature, until about a hundred years ago when the realistic novel came into existence. In the story of the woman taken in adultery we are told Christ bent down and scribbled in the dust with His finger. Nothing comes of this. No one has ever based any doctrine on it. And the art of inventing little irrelevant details to make an imaginary scene more convincing is a purely modern art. Surely the only explanation of this passage is that the thing really happened? The author put it in simply because he had seen it.
C.S. Lewis, "What Are We to Make of Jesus Christ?" (1950)
Well said James. My question for Pastor White is always the same. Where is faith in your presentation of the Reliability of Scripture? He always states that we can trust the manuscripts, but his sources (mss) are questionable. Codex Sinaiaticus is the one manuscript that MCT advocates lean on most, yet the manuscript itself is questionable with the inclusion of pseudepigrepha (Apocrypha, Shepherd of Hermas and Gospel of Barnabas). Not only is the manuscript full of holes, but it propogates false doctrine and is the exact source of the greatest division the church has ever known. If a translation was done without the use of Sinaiaticus, I would consider it. As it stands, I summarily reject Codex Sinaiaticus as a trustworthy manuscript. How can any spirit filled believer trust a manuscript that came from a monastery, that has been protected by Islam for more than 1,000 years and counting?
The reason why I love and use the NASB in counseling is that the Lockman Foundation used all the manuscripts in translating the text. The inclusion of those texts that are in question is evidence of this. While they are bracketed, it is no different than the notes in the side column of the KJV. The Pericope Adultere', Latter Ending of Mark and Acts 8:37 are some key texts that were restored. This cannot be said for the NIV, CSB or ESV. How can we base our faith on a document that was given to us by Islam? Look for yourself on Google Earth and see the Quarter Moon symbol of Islam outside the wall of Saint Catherine's Monastery, as well as the Mosque inside the walls, designed for Muslims as a place of rest. I submit to you and all who read these words...Codex Sinaiaticus is a work of Islam. It was either written there or inserted by Islamic Clerics. That document was written by Satan! The division that it has caused in the church is devastating. How can it be trustworthy?
The KJV, NKJV, MEV, Bishop's Bible, 1560/99 Geneva and others; these are the trusted texts that come from the Byzantine textual tradition. These along with Stephanus 1550 and Beza 1567 are all I need for serious study. I have a consistent family of manuscripts that agrees one with another, and produces the most trusted translation the world has ever known. ____ _____ _______ fill in the blanks. Blessings to you sir, in Jesus name.
@@Pastor-Brettbyfaith Thanks for the info. Blessings.
@@Pastor-Brettbyfaith Brother, have you ever given any thought to the TRUTH that it is impossible for God to have two Bibles that Contradict each other? All the other versions teach false doctrine, and have in known errors.
@@whatsaiththescriptures quote---Brother, have you ever given any thought to the TRUTH that it is impossible for God to have two Bibles that Contradict each other? All the other versions teach false doctrine, and have in known errors.--unquote
I suggest you say the same to Catholics-- What about their NEW bible?
---The New American Bible (NAB), originally published in 1970, is the first American lexicon-oriented Catholic Bible. The translation was compiled by Catholic scholars from the original biblical languages: Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic-as a base text instead of the Latin Vulgate.
>>>>Do Catholics use the NASB Bible?
New American Bible Revised Edition - Wikipedia
Although the revised Lectionary based on the original New American Bible is still the sole translation approved for use at Mass in the dioceses of the United States, the NABRE New Testament is currently being revised so that American Catholics can read the same Bible translation in personal study and devotion that they ...
>>>>Released on March 9, 2011, the NABRE consists of the 1986 revision of the NAB New Testament with a fully revised Old Testament approved by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops in 2010. OT (2011 revision): Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia with Dead Sea Scrolls and minor Septuagint influence.
Doing research today-came across MORE changes the CC has done to the Holy Word of God!!
Leviticus 25). The jubilee year was called every fifty years and was a time for forgiveness.
That is according to the Holy Bible.
The RCC says: How many years is a jubilee year?
25 years
In the Roman Catholic Church, jubilees began to be celebrated formally in 1300 AD and are years of forgiveness of sins and reconciliation. They are celebrated every 25 years. The most recent year of jubilee was 2000.
--CC says: How is this Jubilee different from other Jubilee years?
The Jubilee of Mercy that Pope Francis has called, from December 8, 2015 - November 20, 2016, is an Extraordinary Jubilee. This designation as an "Extraordinary Jubilee" sets it apart from the ordinary cycle of jubilees, or holy years, which are called every 25 years in the Catholic Church.
>>PLease, tell me who gave authority to any church to change what GOD has written?? And DO NOT say Peter!!!!
btw--The Holy Bible DOES NOT mention any celebration called: Extraordinary Jubilee!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 To be quite honest sir, I don't have a clue what you are trying to say.
If the bible is inerrant how come the apostles quote the Old Testament septuagint 50 times over the hebrew masoretic text?
If its inerrant how come it says both Jesus and satan are the morning star?
Im no bart erhman, but u cant ignore his hour long lists of all its contradictions
I think more tends to get lost than added when the scriptures were copied.
Wow, God should have waited until we got all these computers, he would have been impressed. We probably would have a different Bible - Give me a break please.
This guy doesnt believe the scriptures
He believes, but his faith is in the modern critical text. It is the word, but it is not complete. He even admitted that the Byzantine text is more full. Too bad that all that brain space is wasted on defending an incomplete text.
@@Pastor-Brettbyfaith where are the perfectly preserved and whole words of God then?
What would Jesus think of our totally academic ministers who pride themselves on their academic accomplishments instead of outreach to sinners?
Yes, people who have not attended college get their "academic kick" from the intellectual talks by these college-educated speakers.
However, what would Jesus think?
Our young people certainly are not impressed because once they leave the family nest, they do not choose to go to church.
Our "totally academic Christianity" is in its last days and formal Christianity will soon give way to informal Christianity!
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Sounds like the Bible
5th
I think Whitey just likes to hear himself talk.
Do you realize Mr. Whyte that you are standing in Judgment of God's word?
quote---Do you realize Mr. Whyte that you are standing in Judgment of God's word?--unquote
Do you realize all you had to offer was an opinion--which is worthless.
NO scripture--NO facts
@@mitchellosmer1293 Thus saith the LORD; Stand in the court of the LORD'S house, and speak unto all the cities of Judah, which come to worship in the LORD'S house, all the words that I command thee to speak unto them; diminish not a word - Jeremiah 26:2 KJB.
Mr Whyte can impress his listeners (including you) with his FOOTNOTE Bible. I heard Dr. MacArthur say the same thing, and he preached a FALSE message. So you can use whatever Bible you want. I will use the PRESERVED one.
@@whatsaiththescriptures quote---that is still your opinion--I listened to it 4 times now--heard the same words all 4 times!!
But, apparently you expect everyone to be perfect.
btw--I use the KJV--the one translated from the LATIN VULGATE !!
I imagine you use the NABRE.
@@mitchellosmer1293 No sir, I do not expect ANYONE (least of all me) to be PERFECT. What Dod COMMANDS is that we PREACH THE WORD, not what Mr. Whyte believes should be in the word. God's word is either PERFECT or it is not, it is as simple as that. God has said: Let God be TRUE, and EVERY MAN a liar. Are you aware that Mr. Whyte has said that he will not preach from certain portions of scripture. Can you IMAGINE the God of TRUTH having a word FULL OF MISTAKES - Like some teach. - C'mon.
@@whatsaiththescriptures quote---No sir, I do not expect ANYONE (least of all me) to be PERFECT. --unquote
Yes you do!! He may have misread what he wrote. He could have read what someone wrote for him. But, you give him NO slack!!!
>>>>quote--- God's word is either PERFECT or it is not, it is as simple as that. God has said: Let God be TRUE, and EVERY MAN a liar.--unquote
You want TRUTH?? try these :
>>>About the catholic church:
Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her,- she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."- "A Doctrinal Catechism," by Rev. Stephen Keenan, page 174.
"The Catholic Church of its own infallible authority created Sunday a holy day to take the place of the Sabbath of the old law."- Kansas City Catholic, Feb. 9, 1893.
"The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."- Catholic Mirror, official organ of Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893.
"Ques.- Which is the Sabbath day?
"Ans.- Saturday is the Sabbath day.
"Ques.- Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
"Ans.- We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A. D. 336), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday ."- "The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine," by Rev. Peter Geiermann, C. SS. R.., page 50, third edition, 1913, a work which received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius X, Jan. 25, 1910.
What was done at the Council of Laodicea was but one of the steps by which the change or the Sabbath was effected. See under questions 17-21. The date usually given for this council is 364 A. D.
>>>>>>Biblical Proof the seventh day (Saturday) IS the Sabbath
Matt 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day.......
Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, c
Mark 15:42 - It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath).
Mark 16:1-2 - When the Sabbath was over,
Mark 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week
Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, and the Sabbath was about to begin
Luke 23:56 Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment.
Luke 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, ....
John 19:31 Now since it was preparation day, in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one,
John 19:42 because of the Jewish day of Preparation, since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. 42 And so, because it was the day of preparation for the Jewish Passover
John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre,
Did God lie???
>>>>FACTS"
--The ONLY day GOD RESTED ON--Seventh day!! Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD BLESSED--Seventh dayt---Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD SANCTIFIED--Seventh day--Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD NAMED--Seventh day--SAbbath--Isaiah 58:13
--The ONLY day GOD DECLARES as HIS HOLY DAY--Seventh day--Isaiah 58:13
PROVE THEM WRONG!!
White is not a scholar, he is important just for american evangelicalism, you guys must invite a real SCHOLAR like Eahrman, and the like.
Bart responded to a question in an interview: if we found an original autograph what would we have? he said "what we have now".
Bart responded to an interviewer in the appendix of his 1st addition of the paperback book titled: Misquoting Jesus, that the variants in the Greek New Testament mss. do not affect the doctrines in the Bible in any meaningful way at all. Dan Wallace pointed this out in his debates with Bart Erhman.
White has a doctorate. I have no idea why you'd claim he isn't a scholar.
quote---White is not a scholar, he is important just for american evangelicalism, you guys must invite a real SCHOLAR like Eahrman, and the like.--unquote
How about a local priest?? Or the Pope???
LOL---
Mr. Whyte: The Pool of Bethesda is a FACT. YOUR opinion does not COUNT. Let God be TRUE, and every man a liar. I never realized you were actually present to know what they did - Wow.
The biblical scriptures are anything but reliable. There isn't one claim proposed in the bible that can be substantiated by evidentiary facts. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Go visit the holy land...they'll show you everything....Jerusalem....the temple mount...Mt. of olives....culture....hey I've got multiple degrees...so do your own homework instead of popping off
@user-rk1qo6wi5n What is one _evidentiary fact_ they will be showing me that demonstrates any claim in the scriptures to be true. State this fact in a complete sentence.
@@Theo_Skeptomai your standards are non reality based. They're you based. I've gotta lot of graduate units and degrees...lots of skeptical profs. Have no idea of what your point is....I've given you geography...culture...names.... How bout this homes....love your neighbor as yourself. Husband's love your wives as your own body...wives submit to your husband's as to the Lord...hmmm. as one who's got 40k hrs. in social work these are an infallible standard. Blessings to you
@user-rk1qo6wi5n My standards are not reality-based? Let's start with our definition of reality. I'll begin:
Reality (Capital 'R') is the realm of all real phenomena. A real (little 'r') phenomenon is that which occurs at a particular point in space (location) at a particular point in time and is _observable_ at such location and time. This includes objects, events, entities, processes, substances, systems, and beings. If it occurs at a particular point in space and time and is observable at that point in space and time, it is a _reality!_
How do you define 'Reality'?
@@Theo_Skeptomai so how does little Emanuel Kant apply these definitions to what he wants others to obey. Tell me also how from pure matter rationality emanates. That is immaterial realities. Logic...beauty...justice...belief in God...dignity. ..love...oughtness...and any other Aristotlian categories. Also what is real...that which has spatial extension and anything that the Bible calls real of which is imperceptable...etc..We are getting adrift from your requirements of
Sir, whether you believe it or not, I do have the COMPLETE, PERFECT, INFALLIBLE, INERRANT word of God - You may not have it.
When did he say otherwise?
@@craigime Does anyone really believe that God gave his word (singular) in about 900 Bibles, Manuscripts, FOOTNOTES, Verses not included, etc? Take heed what you listen to.
@@petersarjeant1370 what are you even talking about?
@@craigime It is WHAT he DID NOT say.
@@whatsaiththescriptures what did he not say?
Hes misleading people
How is he misleading people?
@@saintejeannedarc9460 because he teaching unbiblical doctrine
An apostate teaching that developed through creeds and crept into the church
quote---Hes misleading people--unquote
and all you have to offer is an opinion..Who cares about that?? Why not PROVE your opinion with bible scriptures???
@@mitchellosmer1293 jesus said father is only true God
John 17:3
So what does only mean ? Does that include 2 other gods?
@@AstariahJW quote----jesus said father is only true God
John 17:3--So what does only mean ? Does that include 2 other gods?--------unquote
There are people out there that claim Jesus is God.
THen tell me. when Jesus was praying in the Garden of Gethsame (Luke 22:42 ) “Father, if you are willing, take this cup away from me-nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done.”
WHo is Jesus talking to?? Himself???
On the cross-----John 19:11 11 Jesus answered, "You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin."
Since Jesus is on the cross--who is Jesus talking about???
-----Luke 23:46 46Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Father, into your hands I commend my spirit”; and when he had said this he breathed his last. 47The centurion who witnessed what had happened glorified God and said, “This man was innocent* beyond doubt.”
--Whom is Jesus talking about?? Himself???
I quote again from that verse," Father, into your hands I commend my spirit”; "--Jesus' SPIRIT!!! Father , Son and Holy spirit!!!
----Matthew 12:32
32:Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
-***Also: No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.· John 1:18
How many people have seen the face of Jesus??? 1000's!!!!
THIS DUDE BE OVER TALKING
That wasn't a Holy Spirit filled comment.
This is... And my response to you firstly, is then why are you here?
Secondly, many enjoy his long talks. Especially intellectuals. They are enjoyable and go very well with his teachings, to many.
So please, without rudeness, consider what I said.
@@DjSostre7 just saying this dude said all of that and showed no proof smh you can watch all you want not me. atleast ISUPK has the proof and truth.all praises to the most High for generald Yahanna
@@Messymathews90 what's ISUPK?
James white has an hour teaching on Wretched. Go look that up. On reliability of the new testament. It's a great one.
@@Messymathews90 he shows many texts/manuscripts of old that we have....
What the issues are concerning textual criticism, etc.. it's a great video; if you're interested that is. It gives much insight.
Even Dr. Daniel b Wallace has some extended talks on the reliability of the new testament we have today here on TH-cam. Even if you don't agree with these newer versions, it still gives much information of how we have today what the apostles wrote. Good for defending the new testament against cults and atheists.
@@Messymathews90 bro you’re in a cult. Black Israelites are not saved or understand the gospel AT ALL. It’s a racist hate group designed to empower fragile black egos.
Dogma is dangerous
@LightThatCigarnow you can live