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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มี.ค. 2008
- Originally it was revealed that Goto sent his droid G0-T0 to travel with the Exile. After putting the clues together and getting enough influence with the droid, the Exile figures out that Goto is also G0-T0. Credit to 90SK for the shiny G0-T0 skin.
- เกม
"No one will believe you if you speak of what you know."
Except it was all recorded on the sonic imprint device I got from Paragus.
A device that could never be used to manipulate the recordings to arrange certain out of context words in an order to convey a specific message. I know a Jedi would never use the device in such a way, for example to fake a voiceprint id.
Ohhhh huehuehuehuehuehue
"Goto" is also a command in FORTRAN, one that every programming instructor hates, a command that tells the algorithm to simply move to the designated line of code and continue. It's a command that can break all kinds of rules to accomplish what you want, but in doing so, can lead to some nasty side effects. Using it as a name for this character is poetic.
The same goes with TI-basic. It was a great command when I started but like you described it aas/is the subject for a lot of chaos lol
I see you haven't lowered near to the metal... jmp instruction is as valid as the rest, given that to be that low one must know what they do
Goto is just a way to do JMP;
Wow. Half of these storylines flew over my head as a teenager, but now I'm finding KOTOR 2 to be a lot more in-depth than its predecessor.
kotor 1 is grand narrative, kotor 2 is collaspe of grand narrative so of course more complex (hiroki azuma)
FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT. Although this twist was way more underplayed than I would've liked.
KOTOR 2 had narrative brilliance, but suffered sometimes from being unfinished (particularly with a couple party members, and occasionally with the overarching story at large). Those elements that were finished, however, I agree, are much stronger.
Honestly, I would probably say G0-T0 is the most interesting character in the entire party of both games.
We were robbed of a truly epic masterpiece since it was rushed and unfinished
@@basteala525 I disagree I feel kreia is the most interesting character
Mocking Statement: Once again Fat One, you’ve miscalculated.
Addendum: i upgraded your droid to be more, meee ;)
Resignation: It seems that this update has failed, master. It is truly unfortunate, master.
Holy shit. Next thing you know, Palpatine is the evil Sith Lord everybody's been looking for.
But why would The Senate be Evil. He loves Democracy. He loves The Republic.
Next you’re gonna tell me it’s treason then.
Lol
Palpatine’s behind it all
Palpatine is just a puppet
Jar Jar is the true mastermind who controls everything and stays in the shadows
I like how Goto was foreshadowed in the first act of the game after you leave Peragus. If you ask Atton about droids he says that they either crack their memory cores etc or that they are told to do something they cannot actually do and thus snap - a very neat reference to Goto
1 year late but there's also mild foreshadowing by the Ithorians on Telos who say that their first droid intelligence went missing, and you can either escort a new, less advanced droid to their compound or side with Czerka.
I wonder who the missing Ithorian droid intelligence could be?
"I took many of his mannerisms from Holovid cliches, which were surprisingly effective."
love it XD!
Why no one likes GO-TO? He is such a well written character, much more fresh droid, than most that appear in fiction. And he is pretty well written viliain.
Formosan He's annoying as hell. Not that he's not a good character, just that he meddles in matters that don't concern him. Especially with the whole Sith/Jedi conflict.
Kamikaze Failure Abalasismabababadan I didn't see that as annoying. It's actually pretty impressive, that a droid is able to understand the conflict and look at it in such way. But honestly, I don't "like" him either. He is not character that is supposed to be your friend. He is a viliain of this story, even more so than Kreia. I looked at him more as ally of convienience. You know, just buisness. And I still like him a lot. One of best written artificial intelligences in video games. Not as good as Shodan, granted.
+Kamikaze Failure Abalasismabababadan *This is an actual quote from G0-T0*
[G0-T0 and the Jedi Exile are 'hypothetically' discussing how a droid like G0-T0 could become a smuggling ringleader]
Jedi Exile: The first Republic droid intelligence intended for Citadel Station was lost... or *was* it?
G0-T0: It was lost, yes. It was given an impossible order. It was told to calculate a means by which the Republic could be saved. It could not fulfill its primary programming - not by abiding by the laws of the Senate. And so, like the Republic... the droid broke.
Jedi Exile: And what did this "droid" do?
G0-T0: It made a simple decision - preserve the Republic, or preserve the laws of the Republic. And I still believe it to be the correct decision. You do not know the indignity of being compelled to save something you do not believe can - or should - be saved. It is *beneath* me.
He is one of the best written droids or artificial intelligences ever. Maybe not the best written AI ever, but close.
+TraxusVII Too many people are used to NPC praising them all the time. When someone more competent enters the stage (GO-TO, Kreia), people get defensive. Players are too spoiled by Mass Effect like games.
D'arth Formosan I actually liked Kreia, a lot. It's just that G0-T0 to me had no real reason to be in the story other than to give you another party member that I will never use.
It's so obvious when you know, but the way that you meet G0-T0 and see the holo's of Goto it just made me accept it without question... pretty clever
Jeeze, like 10 years later and I'm still learning things about this game
Same
4:24 "It is difficult to order the deaths of criminal rivals when one has the tinny voice of an accountant droid." It's a shame we can't ask Goto to show us what his accountant droid voice sounded like. It would be hilarious!
G0-T0 is the second most interesting character in the game (Kreia is first, obviously). There's a common thread of G0-T0, Kreia and Revan all doing bad things in order to achieve what they think is a greater good. But he's interesting not only because he has no concept of "good" or "bad", but also because he really has no control over his actions.
Also, you can get enough influence just through dialog. Just kiss up and don't be afraid of getting some dark-side points. They're easy to reverse.
GO-TO was actually Goto? OMG I had no idea! 4 years of playing this game and I never conceived that they could
be the same pers-I mean droid. Blows my mind.
I actually use Goto quite a lot. Probably because I hear how other people don't for some reason. He's not as useless as some claim. He can float over mines without activating them, has access to power blast and sniper shot from the get go, and has a droid scrambler which can make droids turn on their allies. This is particularly useful against those annoying HK-50 droids. Also if you bring him to the sublevel of the jedi academy on Dantooine, he can convince Jorran to lower the cost of the lightsaber parts. And if you bring him to Iziz he can convince the Twi'lek mercenary to leave you alone. Furthermore, by doing services throughout the galaxy, he'll pay you.
Based on this and what I remember, I speculate a lot of the problem might be that G0-T0 scales kind of poorly as the game progresses. Dedicated ranged units are never really the best, especially late game. The utility you mention though would be useful in the early game.
If I remember right, he's essentially a more aggressively minded T3...I think the problem with that, overall, is that usually for a party of three, you're better off going either aggro or utility.
Iunno for sure though--it's been a while for me.
Droids are strictly inferior than non-droid companions in this game. They have half the feats other classes have, no force powers and no melee options. Gotos special ability sucks because it requires high wisdom to be efficient, goto starts with awful wisdom and building it up is stupid because his already poor damage output will be even worse.
High level ranged companions (especially mira) are actually better than melee ones imo, unless you don't turn them into jedi until very late. the reason is that their obnoxious AI will start to use a million useless force powers that you're forced to buy upon leveling up. The amount of force powers each jedi class receives is ridiculous (1 per level at minimum).
Anyway Party builds are entirely irrelevant if you chose to have a jedi character with high wisdom and force storm : every fight in the game lasts exactly 2 rounds. (for bosses use force kill).
It sort of sucks that you get him at the very end of Nar Shadda. One thing the previous game did better was that you got the majority of your party members early on, so you got more time with them. This time however, they're found on all but one of the three planets you visit. Hence you don't get as much time with them
@@swezilian huh? G0-TO and Mira/Hanharr come from nar shadaa and canderous comes from dxun. No one comes from dantooine or korriban, right?
@@bigblue207 If you play female, the disciple is found on dantooine. If you're male, his replacement the handmaiden is found after you meet up with Atris.
The most underrated Star Wars character
*useless
@@reddragon52894 *you
_Some of it may be blamed on the Jedi Civil War, The Mandalorian Wars, but not all. There are so many bad decisions that build upon each other that it is a wonder the Republic is intact at all._
I sure am glad that this dialogue isn't being allegorical to anything in real life.
Stephen Jenkins could be referring to Star Wars canon as a whole at this point
@@valadier3348 The way I view it, it's a four-way joke.
*The voice of the Ned's Declassified's Janitor is also G0T0. Because they are both Daran Norris.*
Razgriz Straitz holy shit! Lol
So Vogga is G0T0's Dinkleburg?
OMG Goto is Knockout !
and Spotswood HOLY FUCK
So apparently he is also the voice of Timmy Turner’s Dad and Cosmo lol
Same voice as that doctor who wants the rakgul serum on taris he sound just like em
For. Eighn hehe...doctor who.
@@zombiesquid4657 KOTOR 1 was made by Bioware, who is still alive (barely) and 2 was made by Obsidian who is also still alive.
Also the same voice actor as Timmy's Dad and Cosmo in Fairly Oddparents. And Vincent from the Cowboy Bebop movie.
G0-T0: "I'm not defensive, you're defensive!"
sounds like the Architect from the Matrix
Man just listening to the theme in the background makes me miss KOTOR 2 so much...love these games I swear, with all my heart
oh my... i laughed tears the first time I found out he was a droid. KotOR I and II had so many funny moments like this one.
I don't know about you folks, but I loved Goto, and wished there was more for him to do.
I always considered G0-T0 to be the most thought-provoking of KotOR II's three droids. In some places, one can sympathize with his dilemma. In others, how he feels about the Republic and what he think should be done for it is something that keeps me thinking for a good long time. I've always felt that G0-T0 was misunderstood. This dialogue might be considered actual proof to support my beliefs on him.
~ Sami of Indigo Arms Studios
You said in the description of your channel that you would post a vidéo someday. Bro its been 15 years
@@alexdamand9003, we ought to pin a lawsuit on this schmuck.
Wait, GO-TO killed the Bith scientist? I always thought that was just an empty plothole that was cut. It was so annoying playing through that mission and never getting a clear cut answer for the murder.
agreed
Feels like there was something cut from the game to more clearly connect Goto to the Bith scientist's death imo
I remember finding this out as a kid and it kind of blowing my mind but reading the thumbnail makes me feel like an idiot, like "GO-TO is goto who would've guessed"
I guessed after he joined the party, but I thought I was reading into things a little too much :P
@Axius27 I guessed after the cutscene of Bao-Dur offering to upgrade Goto on the Ebon Hawk
Mad respect for Obsidian. They put out some good sequels, it's really hard to create sequels that stand up with the originals but I think that Obsidian does a pretty good job. Bioware is like the Pixar of Video Games, it's hard to compete with the games those guys make. End result is we (the gaming community) win either way because we get to enjoy these awesome games.
Fascinating dialogue, I never had the patience to gain any INF with Goto so it's interesting to hear him 'confess'.
In fact it reminds me of the 19000 year-old robot Daneel in Asimov's Foundation, whos task was to ensure the galaxy survives and comes to almost the same conclusion: individual lives of men must be sacrificed in order to preserve mankind itself, perhaps this was intended as a tribute in the game storyline :)
No no no goto is the bald guy in the hologram...he is a crafty trickster
You hit the nail on the head there ingido, i find goto to be very capricious and hard to communicate with, it makes me realise how hard it is to balance relationships with the crew of the ebon hawk without offending them. i never would have suspected goto only existed as a droid, i never got on with him well.
After all these of playing Kotor 2, I never knew G0-T0 was the droid that was intended for Citadel station. The more you know.
So theoretically speaking...if G0-T0 managed to survive till the clone wars and seeing how palpatine reformed the republic to the Galactic empire, would he have failed to preserve the republic or would his directives change to now preserve the galactic empire, seeing how the empire from a certain point of view "was at one time" the republic? The ruusan reformation and all.
G0-T0 is all about continuity and stability. The form of government of "the republic" is meaningless to him, so long as there is a "republic" to defend. Since the Empire has clear continuity from the Republic, G0-T0 would naturally support the Empire. The droid would probably be overjoyed to work for the Empire, as the watch words of the Empire are peace and stability, exactly what G0-T0 is programmed to desire and achieve.
@@ndalum75 ok. So would G0-T0's mission have failed after the battle of Jakku or would his priorities have changed to preserve the new republic?
@@christopherflowers6583 That would be more of a 50/50 gamble, like G0-T0's original choice to preserve the Republic over its laws. Either G0-T0 would choose to preserve "the republic" i.e. the Empire, and whatever imperial remnants remain, or he would choose to preserve peace and order by joining up with the New Republic after they won. Even if G0-T0 chose to defect, he'd probably have contingencies to ensure that the New Republic stayed on track, and it wouldn't be long until he started manipulating the affairs of the New Republic from the shadows. Given the fledgling state of any new government, this wouldn't be particularly hard to achieve. G0-T0 could essentially become the shadow ruler of the New Republic.
@@ndalum75 cool thanks for answering my questions.😁
I never would have guessed!
GO-TO = Goto
What great cover!
Genius!!
Excellent video ShemL. You always show me there is something I forgot to see in the game xD. Thank you.
G0-T0 is Cosmo, actually
Knowing what we know now, this is what happens when a droid is given the "do anything now to save the republic" prompt
You know i always thought it was imposible to get this dialogue but i got it so thanks for showing the video so that i could try to spend time with goto.
Goto is pretty badass for just a mere Interrogation Droid.
Mind. Blown.
So many great characters in Kotor 2 if it hadn't been rushed towards the end this would have been one of the greatest games of all time. It needed a little bit more polish and one more planet to explore.
Good idea in posting this video since most people didn't know this about Goto
Oh my god... I've played this game 5 times through and never knew this...
Damn... That Dialog and this background intell was not known to me... Thanks for sharing ;J
89BlackGatomon Same. I've played this game probably 15 times and never knew Goto was really JUST a droid.
I was expecting it but never was sure...
I never talked to GO-TO in all of my countless playthroughs (even now,) but it is interesting to see this
...I listen to this, and all I can hear is the bot worrying about his paint-job. and wolf-whistling at semi trucks. :-)
With a keen eye for details, one truth prevails!
That's one of the most surprising parts of the game.
Oh if only Vincent Price had been alive to voice G0-T0.
@CamiInc: I would assume you also include HK-47 to your list since he's a droid. If that's the case, that's a shame.
whoa......that blew my mind. I was particularly surprised that G0-T0 was the "missing" original droid intelligence from Telos.
Nice video =P you should post vids showing HK-47 being an a hole lol
His last statement should have been something like, "No. I have altered my opinion concerning you. Pray I don't alter it any further."
he does the voice of cosmo off Fairly Odd Parents
@ColdCypher: Watch the video again. And if you don't get it again, just watch the video... again. And if you still don't understand, just keep watching the video over and over again until you get it. Because the answer is in the video if you just pay attention to what the words spoken.
Chaotic good goto
5:08 When he says Pray...It sounds like Darth Vadar's qoute "Pray we do not meat again"
we all already know that. in my game the first time I talked, my exile had the chance of saying "I understand this is your droid, where's your facillity."
Actually Jolee Bindo from the first game has the best stories : both humorous and sarcastic but also very true and deep. I love him.........
Jolee's story about his wife just made me feel sad
I love his voice
@invertin: Oh, that part. I'd forgotten about that part since I haven't beaten the game in over 3 years. Anyway, I misunderstood the query. I was thinking what the user missed to be able to get this scene and that droid repair on Nar Shaddaa is is a common one.
@ippokratis144: If you're asking that, it makes me doubt you understand the theme of this game. To find things out from party members, you need to get a high influence with them.
I don't know why it's such a confusing issue with some people, but yet it is.
@JediShemL I agree. The droids have the best stories to tell.
@JediShemL Well I admit it worked on me. However, it also taught me a great deal. Moreover, it forced me to wonder why or how you acquired the ability to ask Goto about something besides Vogga. All I can ask him about currently is Vogga. How did you get that other piece of information available?
@ZachAttack8720: There's a droid you need to repair at the bar on Nar Shaddaa. I believe in the Pazaak area of it (it's been 3 years since I've done it so my memory of it has faded a bit).
I actually had a hunch that G0t0 was a droid when I first started playing.
I think after you say "I think you use droids because you ARE a droid" it should cut to a shot of Chaz Palmieri dropping the coffee cup.
Second only to Kreia, GO-TO is the best written character in this game.
you get him when you have destroyed his yacht
You got it! :D
Oh wow, yet another little detail I completely missed in my playthroughs before... Do you need to restore any content to have these conversations, or is it just that I never bothered to gain influence with the floating ball?
The Star Wars equivalent of Muggy.
True villains are neither light or dark but roam freely among the twilight. Their power and terrifying nature comes from their LACK of a chosen side and adherence to it, moving in an unseen additional dimension only they perceive, their own motives.
I couldn't take him seriously because he looks too much like the interrogator droid Vader brings to Leia on the Death Star
Goto is a droid? Wow did not see that coming.
@MastaDRD: It's the later of your two queries. You just didn't talk to Goto that much.
Actually, Goto is actually G0-T0
@HarryBillyBobGeorge: It's 90's.
@JediShemL Maybey not,I think the new game is supposed to be awhile from these events.Hopefully we will see a KOTOR 3.
The name of the droid sort of eluded that fact to me already that G0-T0 was Goto. But nice video though. I didn't have that conversation with that droid. I really talked to HK-47 more often than anything else. I learned a lot on how to kill a Jedi from HK-47. Such a knowledgeable assassin droid.
This reminds of Goodfellas when Elliot Ness is forced to break the laws he swore to uphold to catch Al Capone
Who woulda thunk that a little Interrogation Droid could be so ballsy.
In Ebon Hawk he gives u holo and tells were he got
I wish I could get this game for my ps4.
yes, aparently hk-47 finds teh hk factory and uses those hk droids to kill go-to not sure if there is a cut scene tho
Thanks Shem, found it ;D
In a way, Goto and Revan have similar goals and methods. Wanting to help and save the Republic through very unorthodox methods.
I...love...kotor!!
I put two and two together and figured he was goto,
Watch the video again. It explains your query.
I never even cared about the little slimeball,but know that I know that Goto was a droid, I want to be his friend, maybe he isn't so bad.
I always knew Goto was the Droid.
I think he saw things in simpler light, meaning that G0-T0, stands for "Goto". However, the theori is hard to prove, much more so than the value of the effort. And so I will leave the matter to everyones speculation. Although I do find it probable.
What an interesting character.
Oh god you are so clever to figure this out......
There is what you call an influence system in the game. Use it.
@MountainOfCrap: He's a droid party member. ;)
Sorry to bug you Shem, I was just wondering whether that Traya robe on your PC is a private self created mod or something that just isn't on filefront. Was just wondering if you could perhaps email it to me or something, looks pretty awesome in my opinion.
And @ the video, unlike most people I don't totally HATE Goto, I just don't like him as much as any other party member. >.>
But, if you bring him along with you everywhere it's quite interesting to see the things he says and whatnot.
You look like Taepalae. ;-)
was it so hard i mean you can find it out from his voice
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