@@johngaynor4363the best thing is I can guarantee there was at least once where Diavolo thought he was going to die but didn’t know how or where and kept freaking out trying to find out how he’d die, only to collapse from a heart attack out of fear
@justaguywhoisanidiot159 Well the stands not his, I'd think it got ejected after the beatdown since his original Stand was Burning Down the House (or smthn like that) and you can't have more than 2 stands
I would still like an episode 39 with Araki showing the lives of the characters who are still alive from parts 2 to 5 and leaving the end of 6 the same as the final section, a simple farewell to the original universe of which it seems that Araki doesn't even care anymore.
Araki def cared. If he didn't we wouldn't have gotten 6 parts of an amazing timeline. Everything comes to an end, and it was probably for the best that we didn't know.
@@HAZYPANCAKES Tbh he should make a special episode to show a happy ending, Like Diamond Is Unbreakable... With The Best Ending Ever, None of the main characters died, except for Shigechi, Reimi & Aya.
one thing i dislike of jojo is the same lame ending where the protag or supporting characters do some asspull and win. other than jotaro and maybe giorno, this is probably the worst offender, and kiras is the stupidest most random shit. great villains, but shitty deaths/endings
Thank you! Pucci was done dirty! 1- The guy obliterated four people at once, but suddenly he decides to walk slowly while trying to kill a child. 2- Emporio went from crying to stern in seconds, like if he had it all planned. 3- How on earth did Weather Report's Disc survived? Whitesnake evolved into C-Moon and then to Made in Heaven, and yet that disc still exists? Does that mean that Made in Heaven still had Whitesnake's, and by extension C-Moon's, powers? 4-Emporio having two stands at the same time. Remember that Jolyne tried inserting her own father's disc and it got rejected. Not only that, but Emporio knew how to effectively use someone else's stand right away. People have to spend months or even years to fully master their own stands, and Emporio simply knew how to use it!
1 - the reason he was moving so faat in the first place, was because he needed to accelerate time to begin the path to reach the singularity point. And he was able to move exponentially faster during the 4 character blitz (hence why the waves made it hard to track pucci in the ocean 2 and 3 lol - Emporio was under alot of grief seeing all his friends get murdered in seconds, then after realizing that Joylene had put all her faith as well as everyone else into him, he needed to grow courage just this once. Also Emporio would logically hold onto Weather's disk bc his stand allows basically a pocket dimension to hold all sorts of stuff. Also that same argument can also apply to Giorno's Requiem stand also having the ability to turn stones into scorpioms despite having Absolute Zero. Remember the Pucci's disks are indestructible and he needs to literally store and hide them when he gets too many. The only way they fade from existence is when the soul or person in question is dying while they are inserted. Could he have used White Snake during C-Moon battles? Probably, but i think he was more focused on killing Joylene and company than trying to wittle them away with disk removal. Same thing applies to Made In Heaven 4- remember that at the time When Joylene attempted to put the disk in, she was very underdeveloped and new to the concept of stands, especially one as powerful as Star Platinum. Now, one thing i will kind of agree on is how Emporio knew how to use Weather Report, but if you recall closesly, the Disk Itself isnt just the stand itself, its also Weather himself.(as he spent alot of time with only a stand disk and without a memory disk). Emporio even says that he isnt fully (or even) controlling the stand. So the final beatdown and moves were done by Weather's soul. Hope this helps understanding the context of stuff
@@lisboah oh yeah i forgot to talk about the 2nd part of 1 So here we go Like i said earlier, Pucci while the characters were still alive, was accelerating time to get to the singularity point to start the loop. So he could freely push Maiden Heaven as much as he wants The reason he stopped at the prison was bc he knew Emporio would be outside the visitor's room (bc thats how Jolyne escaped White Snake's acid. The reason he isnt running is probably bc he is physically tired from everything prior. I mean he did hold his breath under water for who knows how long and is currently bleeding from one eye being cut out. But like, Pucci knows the emporio isnt a Physical Threat to him, he knows his stand cant do anything and even White Snake can win a physical fight so Pucci thinks he won by this point. Anyway the reason he doesnt just push acceleration to chase Emporio is bc he'd have to accelerate time for everyone around the world again.
That’s the point. It’s fate that fucked pucci. Same way he had been saved by total chance a bunch of times over the course of part 6. I mean weather would’ve killed him if jolyne hadn’t crashed her car at the worst possible second. It’s the same way with Kira. Both Kira and pucci believed they had fate and luck protecting them only for them to get fucked over by something unlucky in the end.
部屋に逃げ込むエンポリオに拳を突き出すプッチ
→ウェザーリポートのDISCがエンポリオの頭に入っている
→再び時を加速させるプッチ
みんなの反応が絶望→ワクワク→ヤバい！って感じで二転三転するのがジョジョの魅力
「みんな未来なんて知らなくても覚悟があったッ！ 覚悟ができていなかったのはお前だプッチ！」
このセリフがアニオリであるという事実に震える。このセリフを引き出してみせた制作陣のジョジョへの解像度の高さに脱帽。
And with that, the end of the original timeline.
And Diavolo is still taking fat L after fat L
何が起きるか判らなくても未来へ進む徐倫達の覚悟に比べたら、プッチの言ってるのは「先に攻略本読んでからイベントクリアします。泣けたわー」程度の浅い心構えでしかないんだよな
５部でジョルノが「『覚悟』とは暗闇の荒野に進むべき道を切り開くことだ」と言っているように「覚悟」とは「未知の恐怖に怯え竦むことなく乗り越えていくこと」である。
プッチのそれは単なる「諦め」でしかない。
なるほどー！人間賛歌は勇気の賛歌とか、人間の偉大さは恐怖に耐える誇り高き姿にあるてきなことずっと言ってたね。プッチの思想が対比になってることに初めて気がついた笑
ここのコメ欄気高すぎやろ
黄金の精神やん
一部のツェペリさんの問答にあったように、ゾンビは恐怖に打ち勝っているから襲いかかっているのではなく、恐怖を感じられないから襲いかかることができるノミの同類という話よね
ずっと人間讃歌の話を、人間の偉大さの話をしているから一貫性が凄い
吸血鬼に魅了された末路やね
Such a satisfying death,probably more satisfying than Diavolo and Kira’s
Diavolo is still dying
@@oce_emar diavolo probably had a death where someone farted on him and he died, or if he didnt yet, he will soon
@@truceism infinite deaths means it's all canon, sooner or later he experienced it all
@@johngaynor4363the best thing is I can guarantee there was at least once where Diavolo thought he was going to die but didn’t know how or where and kept freaking out trying to find out how he’d die, only to collapse from a heart attack out of fear
@@legogeneralgreivous8651that's probably what happened during the death where he encountered that little girl
倒される原因が自分のスタンド能力で作ったウェザーのDISCで、吹き飛ばされて落ちたのがウェザーの寝ていたピアノの上ってのがめちゃくちゃ良い
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歴代ボスの死に際のセリフでいちばん意味不明で胡散臭い感じが自分を悪と思っていない悪って感じで最高にプッチしてるよね！
One thing I ALWAYS wondered after this arc, did Emporio KEEP Weather Forecast? Cause DAMN, the boy would be strong as hell if he did for life.
I doubt it, it probably got ejected after that beatdown.
@justaguywhoisanidiot159 Is there proof of this? Just wondering
@justaguywhoisanidiot159 Well the stands not his, I'd think it got ejected after the beatdown since his original Stand was Burning Down the House (or smthn like that) and you can't have more than 2 stands
@justaguywhoisanidiot159 If you're talking about Bites the dust or Sheer Heart attack, those are sub stands, they are part of Killer Queen.
We don't know for sure but I'd like to think that it was ejected and returned to the revived Weather in the "wonderful world".
「未来なんて知らなくても覚悟あった」からの口上は、知る事を覚悟と定義した覚悟強制マンであるプッチさんへの最高のカウンターでありアンサーよね…。
「本で読んだことがあるっ！」
スゴみがあるっ！！
吉良の場合は荒木先生によって死んだ後の物語がスピンオフで描かれている。
I would still like an episode 39 with Araki showing the lives of the characters who are still alive from parts 2 to 5 and leaving the end of 6 the same as the final section, a simple farewell to the original universe of which it seems that Araki doesn't even care anymore.
Araki def cared. If he didn't we wouldn't have gotten 6 parts of an amazing timeline. Everything comes to an end, and it was probably for the best that we didn't know.
@@HAZYPANCAKES Tbh he should make a special episode to show a happy ending, Like Diamond Is Unbreakable... With The Best Ending Ever, None of the main characters died, except for Shigechi, Reimi & Aya.
@@mrfact03svery stupid
Araki is literally still publishing works with Rohan in the og universe
Nigga you are 20 years late
That connection through blood is also your weakness, Pucci shinpu!
命乞いしてるとこ、プッチしててすこ
何が良いって、第3部の処刑用BGM使ってるところ
プッチが本当に人を導くための神の代行者だったのなら、エンポリオを追い詰めたとき一瞬でカタをつけるべきだった。だが、長い戦いの勝利を確信したプッチは、相手が絶望する様を見たくなってしまった。承太郎戦ではあれほど「手」に拘っていたのに、当の自分が無駄な手を積み重ねた結果、敗北に至ってしまった。
これが能力の相性云々ではなく、単純にプッチ個人の傲りが招いた事態というのも、彼にとっては救いがないかもしれない。
エンポリオが語った仲間たちの覚悟はジョルノが5部で語った覚悟ともちゃんとリンクしてるんだよな
スタンドをエンポリオは出せてるのにプッチは出せてない
これだけでも心の強さの差が出てるな
Emporio is like wolverine..
only he knows.
damn
Xavier too
そもそも、エンポリオに構わずに時の一巡を完了させればよかったんだよな。復讐が怖かったか？覚悟が出来てないのはプッチ神父だったな
命乞いで一巡後なら死んでも良いって言ってるけど、他でもないプッチが一巡を完遂する前に止めた結果だからな
他人に覚悟、覚悟とほざいていながら自分が復習を受けるという運命は覚悟できてないダブスタ野郎ですから。
エンポリオを始末する前に一巡したら「エンポリオがプッチから逃げおおせる運命」が固定されてプッチはエンポリオを始末できなくなるからな。だから先に最後の障害を排除する必要があった。
@@黒林檎-t1b 後に復習を受けることも覚悟できていたら、時の一巡を完了する事を優先するべきだった。
つまり「エンポリオを先に始末する＝プッチの覚悟が足りない」、という事になりますね。
To this day I’m still wondering what Giorno was doing during all this 😭
Sipping tea & vibing with mysta😂
@@moai4896 along with Fugo and Polnareff
神『悪いんだけども〜
1巡目で少年を逃がした運命
になっちゃったから〜
2巡目でも逃がさないと
ループする運命に
ならんのよね〜
ごめんねごめんね〜☆』
La música de fondo es muy buena
ちゃんと一巡した世界で
カーズ｢えっ｣
Recuerden aun esto con cariño ya que sera la última vez que sonora el theme de Jotaro. 😢
もしかして、メイドインヘブンの元ネタってアメリカ人だけ反応出来ないのかな
one thing i dislike of jojo is the same lame ending where the protag or supporting characters do some asspull and win. other than jotaro and maybe giorno, this is probably the worst offender, and kiras is the stupidest most random shit. great villains, but shitty deaths/endings
Thank you!
Pucci was done dirty!
1- The guy obliterated four people at once, but suddenly he decides to walk slowly while trying to kill a child.
2- Emporio went from crying to stern in seconds, like if he had it all planned.
3- How on earth did Weather Report's Disc survived? Whitesnake evolved into C-Moon and then to Made in Heaven, and yet that disc still exists? Does that mean that Made in Heaven still had Whitesnake's, and by extension C-Moon's, powers?
4-Emporio having two stands at the same time. Remember that Jolyne tried inserting her own father's disc and it got rejected. Not only that, but Emporio knew how to effectively use someone else's stand right away. People have to spend months or even years to fully master their own stands, and Emporio simply knew how to use it!
@@lisboah actually emporio has always been like the smartest one out of all of them
1 - the reason he was moving so faat in the first place, was because he needed to accelerate time to begin the path to reach the singularity point. And he was able to move exponentially faster during the 4 character blitz (hence why the waves made it hard to track pucci in the ocean
2 and 3 lol - Emporio was under alot of grief seeing all his friends get murdered in seconds, then after realizing that Joylene had put all her faith as well as everyone else into him, he needed to grow courage just this once. Also Emporio would logically hold onto Weather's disk bc his stand allows basically a pocket dimension to hold all sorts of stuff.
Also that same argument can also apply to Giorno's Requiem stand also having the ability to turn stones into scorpioms despite having Absolute Zero. Remember the Pucci's disks are indestructible and he needs to literally store and hide them when he gets too many. The only way they fade from existence is when the soul or person in question is dying while they are inserted. Could he have used White Snake during C-Moon battles? Probably, but i think he was more focused on killing Joylene and company than trying to wittle them away with disk removal. Same thing applies to Made In Heaven
4- remember that at the time When Joylene attempted to put the disk in, she was very underdeveloped and new to the concept of stands, especially one as powerful as Star Platinum.
Now, one thing i will kind of agree on is how Emporio knew how to use Weather Report, but if you recall closesly, the Disk Itself isnt just the stand itself, its also Weather himself.(as he spent alot of time with only a stand disk and without a memory disk). Emporio even says that he isnt fully (or even) controlling the stand. So the final beatdown and moves were done by Weather's soul.
Hope this helps understanding the context of stuff
@@lisboah oh yeah i forgot to talk about the 2nd part of 1
So here we go
Like i said earlier, Pucci while the characters were still alive, was accelerating time to get to the singularity point to start the loop.
So he could freely push Maiden Heaven as much as he wants
The reason he stopped at the prison was bc he knew Emporio would be outside the visitor's room (bc thats how Jolyne escaped White Snake's acid. The reason he isnt running is probably bc he is physically tired from everything prior. I mean he did hold his breath under water for who knows how long and is currently bleeding from one eye being cut out.
But like, Pucci knows the emporio isnt a Physical Threat to him, he knows his stand cant do anything and even White Snake can win a physical fight so Pucci thinks he won by this point.
Anyway the reason he doesnt just push acceleration to chase Emporio is bc he'd have to accelerate time for everyone around the world again.
That’s the point. It’s fate that fucked pucci. Same way he had been saved by total chance a bunch of times over the course of part 6. I mean weather would’ve killed him if jolyne hadn’t crashed her car at the worst possible second. It’s the same way with Kira. Both Kira and pucci believed they had fate and luck protecting them only for them to get fucked over by something unlucky in the end.