yeah, you're the only one. you're a special snowflake. one of 10000 other special snowflakes that wanna feel superior to the majority and write stuff like "am i the only one who likes the old X the new X kids love these days is sooo bad yeah".
Let's remember the biggest thing old Patrick did: He gave Spongebob the confidence to get a job at the Krusty Krab kicking off the series in its first episode. So what does he do now? Ruin stuff for everyone.
W0Y4K Patrick back then was stupid but at least he had a heart and was willing to do this to help his friends. Now, he’s just dumb to be dumb and never really contributing to anything. It’s honestly sad because Patrick had a lot of potential.
Basically new spongebob is good when you’re young but you quickly realize its terrible and annoying when you grow up. However, old spongebob is timeless and always enjoyable.
I never liked the newer seasons, even as a kid. They were either the most boring and uneventful episodes of a cartoon I had ever seen or they invoked pure hatred and/or disgust
Everyone in the Bikini Bottom used to love and genuinely care about SpongeBob so much that they were more than willing to beat up an old man because they thought that he was threatening to kick Sponge's butt. They even followed and supported him as their leader in Band Geeks (which is, by the way, the absolute greatest and funniest SpongeBob episode of all time and my personal favorite) and were inspired by the fantastic speech he made about the importance of teamwork and pulling together. The people of Bikini Bottom used to be so likable and were part of what used to make the show so great and chipper. Now there was en episode devoted to all of them making a stupid No SpongeBob day. All of a sudden they hate him and are incredibly mean spirited towards him.
Tbh i agree with most of the criticism in this vid but i actually think Gone was one of the best modern episodes. I think the moral of the episode was that you can get on people’s nerves without realizing it yourself, and inevitably you’ll end up bothering everyone close to you at some point, and that it’s good to recognize when you’re doing this. At the same time, it shows the opposite perspective - if someone’s bothering you and they don’t realize, don’t get mad at them because they weren’t intending to upset you. A good thing to do may be to “take a break” from that person, but be sure to come back because the break is for you to calm down, not to avoid the person. If everyone just ditched someone as soon as they were annoyed by them, that person would feel very confused and lonely, like spongebob in Gone. I think how the episode portrays everyone when they get back really shows that this was the moral they were going for. They’ve all calmed down and calmly tell spongebob he was being annoying instead of yelling at him (like squidward often does, even in the earlier episodes). At the end when they do “national no patrick day,” they immediately are accepting of spongebob again, showing they dont have any grudge toward him. Mr Krabs even tried to cheer him up once everyone got back. Spongebob did feel bad, but it was implied he would’ve been fine if it was only a day (“a day? But you guys have been gone for weeks!”) and he thought everyone burning an effigy of him was funny. I think the moral of this Gone was misinterpreted, and without that misinterpretation it would be considered a good episode, especially by modern spongebob standards. Sorry for the long, rambling comment, just wanted to give my opinion on this
@@Reapermaskhybrid STOP TALKING! That was way after the movie, and if you assume that explanation, then Spongebob's solution was pointless. I hate it when Logan makes the ending of X-Men: Days of Future Past meaningless! Besides, in the other episodes, like Someone's in the Kitchen With Sandy, they acted way different from how they did with the fruitcake.
@@uranium54321 There was no moral of the story in Gone!!! Just because everyone was tired of Spongebob didn't mean they had to give him such a cruel surprise. OK KO's Plaza Alone didn't have a...National No KO/Enid/Rad Day! April 21, 2020, 11:33pm
Mrs. Puff should've been talked about as well. In the first three seasons(the classics of SpongeBob..), she was a LOT nicer to SpongeBob! She could tolerate him. But NOW, she can't even stand him! She wants him to get hurt and just has a strong HATRED for SpongeBob. I used to like her as a character but now she's just completely crossed that line of being likeable either.
Agreed. I mean, there were very few episodes where Mrs. Puff got angry at spongebob in the first three seasons, and when she did it was for a valid reason. But now...with episodes like Demolition Doofus...Must I say more?
And here's something else Squidward isn't the only character suffering, Plainkton is also being tortured here, it breaks your heart when you see who is supposed to be the real villain of the show, becoming a victim. He was the main bad guy tried to steal the Kraby Patty secret formula a run Mr. Krabs out of business, now he is just portrayed as someone trying to be successful, yes he still tries to steal the formula but the mere fact that every including Mr Krabs and Spongebob mock him for having a failing business, even Karen, his wife mocks him, in the older seasons it was entertaining to see what diabolical plan he had to steal the formula, and more interesting to see how Spongebob and Mr. Krabs would save the day, but now, you would wish that you could just give him the formula yourself
Hooba Dooba yea, the old school an8mation was much more wild and funny looking..while the new looks way too clean and polished. I mean its ok and all, but the old shool was so unique
i think they're written fine, they just aren't acted very well. That's the kind of thing that can really only improve over time with practice. This channel will probably age very well
Spongebob hasn't been the same for a few years now. It's really turned into a show revolving around weird, gross faces, screaming, reused content, and confusing plots.
What's with all the hate. 1st so what if the video is 45 minutes long.... In my opinion it was very well executed and explained. They could have made it 5 minutes long... true.... but that would not even slightly have covered it all... You can clearly see that they are sad about a part of their childhood being ruined... just like the rest of us. 2nd yes.... it's two grown men talking about Spongebob... So what? That is exactly why they qualify. They have obviously watched Spongebob when they were a lot younger .... and remember what it was and meant back then. Most of the original Spongebob audience is now... you guessed it.... their age! Observing the changes that happened to Spongebob really makes you feel bad, and you can actually feel their pain by seeing how a part of their childhood just got ruined. LIKE MOST OF US DO! And let's be clear here: I'd rather watch 2 grown men talking and doing a moral and ethical analysis of Spongebob than listen to haters that are younger than the original Spongebob series... 3rd As for you guys, who made the video.... Congratulations... you did an excellent job! I salute you!
As for your second point on the idiots who comment that, it can all be summarized by this quote: "A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest." -C.S. Lewis
Gary is the only character that never changed! Just think about it. He loves Spongebob and always stand up for him no matter what. He, Larry, and Pearl are the only characters that never changed at all!
@@edgee.tissuesthetissuebox666 𝑲𝑰𝑫. Stop advertising your interests in the PaRappa Anime thing. Yes, the anime does preform well, especially in 30 episodes, but this entire video’s comment section is EXCLUSIVELY, PRIMARILY, AND ONLY focused on SPONGEBOB, and the reasons the 𝑴𝑶𝑫𝑬𝑹𝑵 episodes are bronze. I’m willing to bet you were never great with friends because you eavesdrop in with something unrelated and presumably self-serving, & I hope you are not the same person as you are in these kinds of comments you leave. The more you spam your heart for a PaRappa anime, the more I’m pasting this comment to you.
I haven't watched the new Spongebobs for many years now, but one of things I notice immediately with the new episodes is the surprising lack of artistic detail that used to be central to enhancing immersion. In the original seasons, when characters would make fast motions, air bubbles would form. When Squidward laughed, his nose would shrink and expand. This is just one aspect of the overall decline in quality that the show proudly held in the original seasons. Episodes today feel _cheaper_
There is a lot of tweening involved in the newer episodes. They are not purely hand-drawn frame-by-frame like they used to be. The artists' creative input is declined severely, as there is no "what if we do this?" moment while drawing the animations. The more advanced your tools get to create something, the less creative people seem to become. This is similar to what happened to Star Wars. In the original trilogy, Lucas had to create sets and props, film on location, and use practical effects to get his ideas across. For the prequels, though, he just put people in front of a blue screen and sent the result to a special effects studio. The less thinking you are forced to do, the less thinking you will do.
I really hate the over exaggerated unnecessary faces and body movements. Even when they are just walking, the animators extend their faces. When they wipe something off their face, it’s like their face is a slingshot. They try to make “funny” or “silly” faces, but none of them are not funny or silly at all. They are abusing it, the old spongebob silly faces are much funnier. There’s not even that much silly faces in old spongebob in general, which means they take time so they are actually good.
Let me be the one to say this: Most, if not ALL. Of the modern Spongebob artists might’ve worked on either Rocko’s Modern Life, Ren and Stimpy, or literally any internet parody. Internet Parodies, and even the other shows I’ve said, are known to be over the top with the art. I’m not saying it’s a completely bad thing (exaggeration is one of the principles of animation for fucks sake), but it’s known to be overused, especially POKÉMON ones like BeeFwee: A Pokémon Parody. Gookie faces aren’t ALL of the video; there is a twist to the titular Butterfree, but it’s owner has definitely got one too many face lifts. Spongebob artists of the modern day shan’t follow the John K footsteps. Stupid Faces have become unfunny at this point, and I agree with every single word you’re saying. That’s the bottom line.
@@edgee.tissuesthetissuebox666 𝑲𝑰𝑫. Stop advertising your interests in the PaRappa Anime thing. Yes, the anime does preform well, especially in 30 episodes, but this entire video’s comment section is EXCLUSIVELY, PRIMARILY, AND ONLY focused on SPONGEBOB, and the reasons the 𝑴𝑶𝑫𝑬𝑹𝑵 episodes are bronze. I’m willing to bet you were never great with friends because you eavesdrop in with something unrelated and presumably self-serving, & I hope you are not the same person as you are in these kinds of comments you leave. I warned ya
10: The karate episodes are my favorite with Sandy. I can't think of any from recent years. 9: Some of the detailed animation made a scene more humorous actually but most of the time IMO it's gross. CoughSplinterCough 8: I feel like they recycle the Plankton-Patty plot more than any other and its just bland now. Fun fact: he was only supposed to make one appearance but he was really popular and they brought him back. Which was fine for a while but now... 7: No real comments here, but nice points. 6: I cannot STAND shows where everyone is an idiot. A few is fine but don't make everyone super obnoxious and stupid and ugh! Remember when Disney Channel parents were smart? Kim Possible's dad was literally a rocket scientist and her mom was a brain surgeon. In American Dragon, Jake's father was kind of a cuckoolander, but he was also ignorant of the truth. Not too many morons. 5: I can't stand how much SPongebob cries. Not because he's a boy, but because most of the time the reason is irritating. I liked it when he stood up for himself in the old episodes, like when he DEMANDED Mr. Krabs hire Squidward again because he was losing his mind. No one I know cries when they stub their toe. They yell and hop around and make noises like Squidward does when he gets mad. 4: In the older episodes, IMO, his money lust could sometimes be humorous or help him develop character, like when he sold Spongebob for 62 cents. He regretted what he had done and that told us he cared about spongebob. Now he treats his fry cook like a slave, sometimes literally by not paying him and letting him take the blame for a crime he committed to save a few dollars. 3: Well put. All of these thoughts I've heard before but you elaborated on them; very well done. 2: I feel bad for Squidward now. In the earlier seasons his misery was just because he hates his job and his neighbors because they ruin everything he holds dear, but now it seems like he's the creators' voodoo doll. 1: I've never thought about all the cruelty, but well done again. Very interesting video guys!
Am I the only one who prefers season 1's animation style over the other seasons? I like that it isn't that good quality, and sound isn't over used too.
+Natalie P I think its mostly a nostalgic thing, seeing it in HD, with good animation gives it the vibe that its new. It's like how I much prefer the older Simpsons before 2000 because it isn't crisp and smooth.
it's not a nostalgia thing for the most part(altho that plays into it) crispy cleanness has a lot of downsides, with the older animation your brain would fill in blanks and imagine a much more realisitc world
Why didn't Spongebob just take his arm off in the splinter???? as seen in previous episodes like "Graveyard Shift" and "Secret Box" Spongebob's arm are in fact removable, and grow back!
I remember watching “modern” SpongeBob as a kid in the 2010s and just really disliking it, mostly for the show’s gross art style and the cruel nature of the characters, making me steer clear from SpongeBob for most of my childhood. It wasn’t until I got older and saw memes of old SpongeBob that I decided to go back to the show and see its older episodes. From what I could tell, old and “modern” SpongeBob are two completely different shows, with the former having charming animation, a light-hearted tone among the cast, and genuinely funny and iconic moments that are still referenced today. Overall, I just wish that old SpongeBob was the type of show and first impression I got of SpongeBob when I was a kid rather than “modern” SpongeBob and I’m certainly not excited to see the new SpongeBob show Nickelodeon is making despite Hillenberg’s wishes. Alas, at least we have the SpongeBob musical.
@Valerie Cee I understand how you feel. Since I was born in late 2001, I grew up watching the classic and middle episodes. However at 11 years old, I have realized how mean spirited and annoying had the show become. Therefore, I developed a hatred of “modern at the time” spongebob.
I watched the first three seasons of SpongeBob over and over again last year, and I have to say that I was surprised by how the characters were amazingly made. Like Squidward saving SpongeBob from getting hit by a truck in Krusty Krab Pizza and later on shoves the pizza in the orderer’s face after he made SpongeBob cry. SpongeBob was more mature back then but was childish, Patrick was a lovable idiot who cared about his best friend, Squidward was a jerk but cared for his neighbor a little, Sandy was a girlboss, and Mr. Krabs actually cared about his employees. Now since Paul Tibbett became head writer, he managed to destroy the characters in seasons 5-9, but the show was good again when Stephan came back, until he died :( I really hope this show ends, because it’s been running for too long and it needs a finale. The characters that haven’t been affected by the horrible writers were Pearl, Gary, Larry, and the Flying Dutchman.
I think one more problem with this show is the fast-paced humor. I saw some episodes from seasons 5-8 recently and I saw some jokes that had potential to work, but immediately right after those jokes it went to the next scene all of a sudden. The creators didn't even bother to let the joke breathe for a bit, at least seasons 1-3 gave their jokes more breathing space to give you time to realize it rather than rushing them for no reason.
@@edgee.tissuesthetissuebox666 𝑲𝑰𝑫. Stop advertising your interests in the PaRappa Anime thing. Yes, the anime does preform well, especially in 30 episodes, but this entire video’s comment section is EXCLUSIVELY, PRIMARILY, AND ONLY focused on SPONGEBOB, and the reasons the 𝑴𝑶𝑫𝑬𝑹𝑵 episodes are bronze. I’m willing to bet you were never great with friends because you eavesdrop in with something unrelated and presumably self-serving, & I hope you are not the same person as you are in these kinds of comments you leave.
I come back to rewatch this, even 3 years after it's been posted. After the original producer died, I think they should end the show in a way like Band Geeks- but not using the same plot... but making a new one, one that is memorable, and one where everybody is happy, and puts closure on the series, in honor of Stephen Hillenburg.
I believe there is a copypasta describing this: Just imagine this one day. The last episode of spongebob. Spongebob finally got his drivers license. Squidward finally became a famous musician and artist. Sandy makes a groundbreaking scientific discovery. Mr. Krabs makes a million dollars and retires in style and passes his formula on to Plankton to continue the business and they shake hands calling eachother brothers. As for patrick, well, he proves to the world that mayonaise is in fact an instrument. The gang gathers one last time to have fun in jellyfish fields. The camera slowly zooms out over bikini bottom as this song begins to play and we hear that french narrator calmly say, "Ahh, bikini bottom. Here we leave our nautical friends. And as they say, F is for friends who do stuff together, U is for you and me, N is for anywhere and anytime at all, down here in the deep blue sea. (Credits)
SpongeBob has a large and loyal fanbase. Of course people are going to leave childish comments. Unfortunately, SOME of the old spongebob fans are absolute retards because they will literally spam terrible ideas such as "fire all the new writers" or "bring back hillenburg" (P.S, he works on the show, but as an executive producer. In addition to that, he has ALWAYS been an executive producer, even after the movie... and he also left the show around 2002 to work on the movie.)
Now i even feel more sorry for plankton, surely they changed Plankton personality from evil scientist like Dr Eggman, Dofensmith, and Neo Cortex, become victimness failure guy
You gotta hate patrick way more than Mr. Krabs. Patrick's cruelty is fucking beyond and at this point I feel like he should just be thrown out of the show because of how annoying he is. I think there is way more wrong with patrick than what was covered on this video and I think a 3 hour video can be made just about how annoying patrick is.
He's practically insane in the new episodes. There's even an entire episode of just him trying it literally kill squidward for money. He literally straight up doesn't care now.
Squidward's my favorite character so it really hurts to see him being tortured all the time. That episode with the toenail made me physically cringe and feel like my toenail was gonna be ripped off...
I honestly like Pre-movie Squidward more.In the older episodes,he was a jerk who got what he deserved,but he was unlikeable.But in the newer episodes,he feels like an abuse victim
Spongebob used to be for adults And kids. Because it had so many adult like jokes. For example: Krabby Land. Here is a joke from the episode. "Have your free coloring book& liability weavers"!!
Wrath's Turntable Time Machine Rocksmash Attack (AKA The Mysterious Reuploader, Ace-edo Mask!) I also tend to read the description, but sometimes I forget to.
I can imagine that the crew and maybe even a number of the voice actors wanted to leave due to how terrible Spongebob evolved into but didn’t because they knew a large chunk of their income came from this show...
Supposedly, the voice actor's are still contracteully bound to do their lines regardless if they wanted to leave or not. Clancy Brown refused to do his lines for the one course meal episode
"get a job" "you're to old to be criticizing a show meant for kids" "44 minutes? That's too long!" "this is so cringey" "something about autism" There, now you've read the entire comment section
+Porkpie Johnny Gaming True, I want to know are people teenagers that can't just watch the video without complaing about how long it is? People also say "It's a kid show" pisses me off. Great,Now people will complain "This comment it to long I can't read this make it shorter stupid"
whenever i watch a standalone video like this, and not something like a video with a secured fanbase, i keep forgetting how utterly retarded and uneducated people can be
K'Maya Smith Plus I haven’t seen Spongebob in a long time. Haven’t kept up with the new episodes since One Coarse Meal, and even though I heard that Stephen Hillenburg (RIP) was coming back, I felt like it was too late. When I heard about the STP Lemonade episode, it officially made me stop watching the newer episodes. So even if the newest episodes are better than the ones this video is basing on, they couldn’t be as good as the ones in the first three seasons. Also, the comment I wrote is based on the episodes this video was talking about, not the newest ones. This video probably is outdated but whatever. If people like the newest episodes, then fine, but if they like the ones presented in this video, then that’s no good.
If anything I feel bad for Squidward, no one bothers to listen to him and Spongebob and Patrick don't realize that he wants to be alone and Patrick... MY GOD!! I remember when Spongebob got stuck in the ringer (I think that's what it's called" and Patrick makes everything harder for him by putting glue on him, taking him to a park where Spongebob can't do anything and when Spongebob yells at Patrick everyone gets mad at him, the lesson should be for Patrick to realize he is causing more harm then good not oh your friend tried to help you be grateful even if it was not good at all. I used to like Patrick but as you mentioned instead of him being the loveable goofball he's an asshole and a complete moron.
a message from 2024, I have seen this video 3 times because i can't escape the bs that is Spongebob. If you want can you make a your more recent take on the latest spongebob?
They should just cancel Spongebob. Regardless if they hired some of the old writers back, it's far too late. The tone and quality of the show has wained far too much and the damage is irreparable.
overly late, but here’s a plot idea that may or may not be a filler episode. what if something sparks a friendship between plankton and mr krabs again, and they agree to a partnership, but later they recognize their incompatibility to work together, and fight over management of the restaurant? kind of like that krusty bucket episode but they don’t team up just because someone steals the restaurant or formula or whatever, like they take karen’s advice and become partners? its a running gag for plankton vs krabs but like you said, the formula stealing plans and schemes are getting very repetitive and boring.
Realistically I think the second movie was a good place to put the series to rest. After that, the show changed a lot and at this point SpongeBob is spiritually dead. Meaning that SpongeBob isn't SpongeBob anymore it's a generic kids show made by SpongeBob fans.
@@slackershrub8923For Real! And I really hate to say this because I love this show, but SpongeBob is one of the most overrated shows ever. What good is a show if only 23% of the show is considered the best. The other 77% mid at best or unwatchable at worst.
@@OakTreeIsaac season 1-3 pure classic amazing, memorable, season 4-5 ok, pretty fun to watch, had a few mess ups, season 6-9A, squidward hurt = funny, kinda boring but animation was ok, season 9B-present, not even spongebob anymore, fans wrote for the show, fetishes
I'd also like to point out Squidward's meanness towards Spongebob. Yeah, he was often mean to him, but he never took it to far, and when he did, he felt bad afterwards.
For me, it was the horrible, hope-for-humanity-draining monstrosity from WhoBob WhatPants. That thing is fucking terrifying, and I sincerely hope the animator who drew it got fired and blacklisted. It's like if Sure Squidward and Moar Krabs had an unholy love child, but just like in the classic, drama-tinged epic The Ugly Barnacle, it was so ugly that they died. It's so horrifying that it gives my nightmares nightmares. It's fucking disturbing... and I don't particularly care for it.
Wow 0_o This is one of the worst comment sections I have ever seen. And keep in mind I have read comments from GradeAUnderA and Leafy expose videos. "You guys are over analyzing it"- This argument is just a blanket term to silence criticism. I love how everyone says this, but they almost never back up the statement. In that case, your argument has absolutely no weight. However, if you say this and then complain about their "cringy jokes" and all that, aren't you doing the exact same thing as them? Bit hypocritical, don't you think? "It's just a kid show" SO WHAT? That doesn't free it from criticism. I could use the same argument against you and say "It's just a youtube video". "This video was 50 minutes and they complain about filler" Firstly, learn how to count. It's 44 :p Secondly, are you really that desperate for argument? This is a youtube video, not a show. There isn't any plot, so technically there is no "filler". But I'll give these people the benefit of the doubt and say instead that they were "wasting time". Uh.....did you watch the video? Most of it they stayed on track and talked about the number. Yeah, it took a while, but you want to know why? Because they actually wanted to make a good video and elaborate on their arguments. Oh, and "jokes" are not an excuse for "filler" unless they go on forever, which none of them do (off the top of my head) Honestly all this proves to me is how desperate some people can be for an argument and how most people in this comment section have no idea how to provide any fair criticism aside from "her der your joke aren't funny". If you dislike the video, fair enough. You are allowed your opinion. But these arguments are just blanket terms that don't provide any good reason to dislike it.
+TheTrueLuigiFan 1. "Nonetheless, this is still an awful video" Did I say anything about the quality of the video? The answer is no. All I did was list counter arguments to the blanket arguments that people cough up. I enjoyed the video, but since this has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the video and only the people who want to shut these guys up through every means necessary, we can agree to disagree. It's completely irrelevant. 2. "Literally every point they bring up can be countered" No duh. They are giving their OPINIONS. Everyone has their own opinions, and every opinion ever given forth has another side. Also, BY YOUR OWN LOGIC, considering I'm countering your arguments, I guess that means all your arguments are awful :p 3. "EVEN THE TITLE OF THE VIDEO CAN BE COUNTERED. When they say modern, obviously they are referencing bad SpongeBob, not the modern SpongeBob." I agree with this point to an extent. These guys (and the community in general, really) uses the term "modern" as kind of the bad seasons. Everyone has their own definition of "Modern Spongebob". Despite it being pretty nitpicky, I agree with to an extent. 4. "(P.S., I think modern SB is amazing. Now shoot yourself in the head if you are going to attack me for my opinion.)" Arguably your weakest point. You tell me to kill myself if I'm going to attack you for my opinion? Uh......aren't you literally doing the exact same thing to me? You're telling me to kill myself (a.k.a. attacking me) for my own opinion on the comment section of this video/my opinions on modern Spongebob. I recommend looking up the word "hypocrisy"
1. "The same way you stated your point of view, the same way I'll state mine. No need to ask me for my opinion, sir. I'll state it whenever I'd like." Again, I never said anything about the actual video. It's completely irrelevant. Also, I never "asked you for your opinion". Your just pulling that out of thin air. All I said is we can agree to disagree. 2. "Yet they are treating every single one of them as a fact. Also, what kind of sh*t logic is that? When have I ever stated that? Context is a thing." Name 1 place in the video they stated their opinions as facts. Actually, at the end of the video they even said they wouldn't judge people they don't even know based on the show they liked. "Also, what kind of sh*t logic is that?" Your logic apparently :p You specifically said, "Literally every point they bring up can be countered." So that means if you can counter an argument, it's a bad argument, by your logic. Either that, or you did a horrible job explaining yourself, which still isn't my fault. 3. "LOL, you took everything I've said out of context." Ok, stop right here. Who are you, Keemstar? Jokes aside, I didn't take a word of what you said out of context. I put the entire quote there. I don't think you understand what "out of context" means. "If you disagree with my opinion, fine, but I was addressing this to anyone who just-so-happens to pass by this comment section and attack me for liking modern SB. Also, discussion =/= attacking." "discussion =/= attacking." But you know what does equal attacking? Telling someone to kill themselves. Like you did. "know the difference, sir Avis. I like your channel man, but where did all of your point even come from???" I do know the difference. I know the difference between telling someone to kill themselves and discussing opinions. Apparently you don't. I appreciate your compliments, but hardly any of your arguments addressed mine. Not even in your first comment. My issue was the comment. And you decided to go on a rant on the video itself, which is not what I was even talking about to begin with.
1. "I ain't going to rewatch this video. It's a chore to sit through. The comment sections are just people criticizing this video overall and not specific sections of it. The top comment literally states something about them saying there isn't much to say." You could have just skipped to the part where they talk about One Coarse Meal. That's that I did :p Of course I don't expect you to sit through a 44 minute video you obviously don't like XD 2. "The fact that I took it seriously means I didn't find it funny, at all. Even without the "jokes aside", the KEEM jokes are lame now." It doesn't matter if you found it funny or not. It was a joke, and not something to be taken seriously. 3. "I think you misunderstood what I said. No, shooting yourself and killing yourself are the same things. I stated that if you're going to state something like "Modern SB is for stupid people" or anything like that, then please die." "No, not really. I fail to see where I'm being hypocritical because I just explained myself clearly." BECAUSE YOU SKIPPED A GIANT SECTION OF MY COMMENT. If I agreed with you in that section, then whatever, I wouldn't have cared. We've been doing that the whole time anyways :p Right after I was done talking about One Coarse Meal, there was an entire section where I basically explained that this whole time your biggest complaint with me is "I wasn't letting you have your opinion" or whatever. Yet you called their opinion "false". I recommend taking a look at that. Also, you called me out for making "assumptions", yet you already made one yourself: "Are you implying one's opinion is irrelevant? Sick." "No, not really. I fail to see where I'm being hypocritical because I just explained myself clearly." All you did was explain how hypocritical you were XD "I stated that if you're going to state something like "Modern SB is for stupid people" or anything like that, then please die." Translation: It's not okay for other people to attack me (i.e. attack you for liking modern Spongebob) but it's completely 100% okay for you to attack them (i.e. tell them to kill themselves) How do you not see the hypocrisy in that? It's literally the same thing.
1. "LOL WHAT?! Where did you get this from? With or without you stating my statement is irrelevant or not, it still will be my opinion. I'm sorry, but YES, what I have stated is relevant because we are specifically talking about this video. Do you not know what a comments section is for?" The only reason it's "relevant" is because you brought it up. In my original first comment, I SPECIFICALLY only talked about the comment section. The only thing I said in my comment about the video was, and I quote: "If you dislike the video, fair enough. You are allowed your opinion." The rest of my entire first comment was SPECIFICALLY about the comments. So you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, or you just didn't both reading my original comment. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if it was both. "They are treating them as facts." Stop right there. Again, provide evidence. You can't make a bold statement like that and then not back it up at all. As I said previously, the specifically said towards the end of the video, "If you dislike this show, fine. It would be unfair for us to judge you based on the show you like" (This isn't quote for quote btw) You have no evidence for them treating their facts like opinions. They never stated it as facted, and they said it was fine if you like the show. "There is such thing as a wrong opinion." Okay, stop. Stop, stop stop. I'm done. I can't even do this anymore. You are outright STATING their opinion is wrong. You clearly have no idea what an opinion is. Either that, or you know it, but still knowingly disrespect their opinion by claiming it is wrong. For someone that was so mad at me for "claiming your opinion is irrelevant", you outright STATED that their opinion is wrong. If you can't understand that there are no such thing as right or wrong opinions, and that opinions are only personal beliefs, then I can't continue this conversation.
1. "Yes, but they make it seem like that this is all of what modern SB is despite it being not true." IN THEIR OPINION, this is what modern Spongebob is. I really don't understand why you can't just let them have their opinion. 2. "If I call the sky purple, is my opinion right? wrong" The sky being blue is a fact, not an opinion. The plot recycling part (your example) is an opinion. In their opinion, modern Spongebob reuses plots. If you disagree, that is perfectly fine. But that is still their opinion, and for some reason you won't let them have it. 3. "I claim it is wrong because I can tell they have some sort of bias towards premovie SB, treating it like it is a God and completely flawless. Nowhere in the video have they ever stated that premovie has had flaws too, either that, or they're blinded by nostalgia!" Even if it is biased (which is just an assumption, and you have no evidence behind it) who cares! It's still an opinion! I really don't understand why you won't just let them have their opinion. They never said ANYTHING in this video was fact. They never insulted anyone for liking the show. All they did was give their opinion.
Well if you see some notable spongebob internet jokes meme, most of them is from older episode and season, and this is a prove that the old stilll gold, rip hilenburg you are a real father that know how spongebob should be
Another thing that bothered me was their obsession with more sound effects like the blinking or the high pitched squeaking that happens every time Spongebob laughs and gets squished a tiny bit. It wouldn't be as annoying if most of modern Spongebob was not filler. But seeing that it is, the sound effects become very noticeable.
George McCartney "pitched squeaking that happens every time Spongebob laughs and gets squished a tiny bit." Happened in Funny Pants. And when did that episode air? Oh... 11 years ago.
+LuigiFan860 That's still a modern episode, some clips of that was even used here in this video when they were talking about SpongeBob's Flanderization.
I think one of my favourite moments in Classic Spongebob is in the Krusty Krab pizza episode. After they deliver the pizza and the customer yells at Spongebob, Squidward gets mad and decides to make Spongebob feel better. Even Squidward, who argued with Spongebob the whole episode, got upset when he saw Spongebob upset, because he does like him. He just cant deal with him all the time
Kyle Herold This is the worst video I've seen and the show didn't get worse, 95% of all kids watching this disagree with you, the show actually got funnier, the animation got better, the storyboards got better, nobody at all pays attention to the background characters, etc etc etc... Nobody cares what you think! If you're just hating on the show JUST DON'T WATCH IT!!! It's so simple!!!You don't need to share your hate for the show!!! I hate people who just share their hate to the public for no reason whatsoever. This video shouldn't be on TH-cam, if you keep sharing your hate for things your channel shouldn't be on TH-cam!
Bandersnatch41 ikr. They made a section of how spongebob has these fillers on the show that are useless, unless they're funny and entertaining (etc): same with these guys, they try too hard
I feel the show really went downhill when Hillenburg switched to executive producer, Paul Tibbitt took over, and the original writing staff was switched out for Ren & Stimpy’s writing staff explaining literally every point that is talked about on this video. Reminder: the R&S writers were not there during the first three seasons so they’re not sure what happened there
please make the lines less scripted. it is easy to tell when your interaction with each other is scripted. as well as the facial reactions. to get far in youtube, you really just have to be yourself. relax. the harder you try, the worse it is. its cringy when bad acting is involved. this reminds me of the high school student videos i had to watch back then.
Except they're clearly also trying to be comedic at the same time, but because of the acting it doesn't come across as funny, just cringey, which gets in the way of the points they're trying to make.
I love this video because it basically explains *ALL* the flaws of Spongebob (at least after the return of Hillenburg), plus I think the comments are too negative :|.
When Mr Krabs sold spongebob for 62 cents, he only started crying because he then realised how much money he would loose without spongebob working there
mach6247 What about the 26 terrible sitcoms. And Fanboy and Chum Chum and BreadWinners and the fact they had Fred from Fred as a show. They sucked bullcrap so Nickelodeon is terrible now
i knew there was something about the modern seasons that just rubbed me the wrong way, but i couldn't for the life of me figure it out. you just put your finger on all of the reasons it made me so uncomfortable. so, thanks for helping me with that, i guess. it's really sad that a show as great as spongebob, that i absolutely loved as a little kid, has been reduced to something so awful as this hell of a show. it's like teen titans go but more morbid.
Jay D I grew up watching the modern spongebob, and after renting the other seasons from the public library, I think those are better. I'll still watch modern spongebob, because I still enjoy that nostalgia, but it just isn't the same.
The SpongeBob rebirth theory (for those who don't know) goes like this; In the first SpongeBob movie when he gets dried out, he actually died. And when he was brought back to life, he had to start learning all over again as a child. If he didn't die, he at least got severe brain damage. That's why his character ark is rendered meaningless, that's why he doesn't succeed a day as manager, that's why he's much less mature after the movie, etc. It makes sense, even though it's probably not canon. Maybe not rebirth, but severe amnesia and brain damage would explain a lot.
Who finds this video nostalgic? I remember watching this on my 3DS browser back when I was 14. I'm 19 now. The points while overexagerated, are spot on, and overall this is a good video, but I'll admit a lot of those reviewer jokes are pretty cringy and aged badly.
am i the only one who prefers the old animation?
No
No. Everybody who grew up watching SpongeBob misses the old animation, myself included. 😭
+Mauricio Garcia It's a little ~too~ bubbly and cartoon-y now. I liked the simplicity of the lower-budget animation.
iLearnedItFromThePizzaMan Yeah. And the characters. They just became so ugly, you know.
yeah, you're the only one. you're a special snowflake. one of 10000 other special snowflakes that wanna feel superior to the majority and write stuff like "am i the only one who likes the old X the new X kids love these days is sooo bad yeah".
Let's remember the biggest thing old Patrick did: He gave Spongebob the confidence to get a job at the Krusty Krab kicking off the series in its first episode.
So what does he do now? Ruin stuff for everyone.
Terry R. True!
W0Y4K
Patrick back then was stupid but at least he had a heart and was willing to do this to help his friends. Now, he’s just dumb to be dumb and never really contributing to anything. It’s honestly sad because Patrick had a lot of potential.
That's his clone who is ruining everything
@W0Y4K Patrick was stupid but he was spongebob's bestfriend and at the end of the day that is what mattered. Now he is just a stupid pos
yep :(((
Basically new spongebob is good when you’re young but you quickly realize its terrible and annoying when you grow up. However, old spongebob is timeless and always enjoyable.
I never liked the newer seasons, even as a kid. They were either the most boring and uneventful episodes of a cartoon I had ever seen or they invoked pure hatred and/or disgust
i only saw the good old episodes and also the very good new ones
I've been debating weather or not to get nick plus on Amazon prime just to watch the older episodes whenever I want
@@georgemccartney8906 yeah, I think they go a bit too far with the facial expressions, it’s kinda distracting and sometimes disgusting.
Spongebob was NEVER EVER great to begin with (WARNING: Never ever watch Spongebob. Watch PaRappa the Rapper's anime instead)
The episode where spongebob gets a splinter stuck in his thumb is sooo freaking gross
The ending was weirdly satisfying
Even Tom Kenny hated that episode
Tbh my problem with that episode is that it’s just boring
Everyone in the Bikini Bottom used to love and genuinely care about SpongeBob so much that they were more than willing to beat up an old man because they thought that he was threatening to kick Sponge's butt. They even followed and supported him as their leader in Band Geeks (which is, by the way, the absolute greatest and funniest SpongeBob episode of all time and my personal favorite) and were inspired by the fantastic speech he made about the importance of teamwork and pulling together. The people of Bikini Bottom used to be so likable and were part of what used to make the show so great and chipper. Now there was en episode devoted to all of them making a stupid No SpongeBob day. All of a sudden they hate him and are incredibly mean spirited towards him.
Did that crap Plankton put in the fruitcakes have lasting effects on the townspeople? That's the only explanation I can find for that honestly.
Tbh i agree with most of the criticism in this vid but i actually think Gone was one of the best modern episodes. I think the moral of the episode was that you can get on people’s nerves without realizing it yourself, and inevitably you’ll end up bothering everyone close to you at some point, and that it’s good to recognize when you’re doing this. At the same time, it shows the opposite perspective - if someone’s bothering you and they don’t realize, don’t get mad at them because they weren’t intending to upset you. A good thing to do may be to “take a break” from that person, but be sure to come back because the break is for you to calm down, not to avoid the person. If everyone just ditched someone as soon as they were annoyed by them, that person would feel very confused and lonely, like spongebob in Gone.
I think how the episode portrays everyone when they get back really shows that this was the moral they were going for. They’ve all calmed down and calmly tell spongebob he was being annoying instead of yelling at him (like squidward often does, even in the earlier episodes). At the end when they do “national no patrick day,” they immediately are accepting of spongebob again, showing they dont have any grudge toward him. Mr Krabs even tried to cheer him up once everyone got back. Spongebob did feel bad, but it was implied he would’ve been fine if it was only a day (“a day? But you guys have been gone for weeks!”) and he thought everyone burning an effigy of him was funny.
I think the moral of this Gone was misinterpreted, and without that misinterpretation it would be considered a good episode, especially by modern spongebob standards. Sorry for the long, rambling comment, just wanted to give my opinion on this
They were still bad before the movie in Bubble Buddy and The Sponge Who Could Fly. It didn't just start after the movie. April 21, 2020, 11:27pm
@@Reapermaskhybrid STOP TALKING! That was way after the movie, and if you assume that explanation, then Spongebob's solution was pointless. I hate it when Logan makes the ending of X-Men: Days of Future Past meaningless! Besides, in the other episodes, like Someone's in the Kitchen With Sandy, they acted way different from how they did with the fruitcake.
@@uranium54321 There was no moral of the story in Gone!!! Just because everyone was tired of Spongebob didn't mean they had to give him such a cruel surprise. OK KO's Plaza Alone didn't have a...National No KO/Enid/Rad Day! April 21, 2020, 11:33pm
Wow I didn't notice how dark and cruel sponge bob is now.
It isn't
+MultiSuper GamerPerson Did you actually watch the whole video ?
+Kevin The Agent No Spongebob got more popular now then it was then
+Kofi Sarfo I watched every single episode
+Kevin The Agent Yep which is not alot
Mrs. Puff should've been talked about as well. In the first three seasons(the classics of SpongeBob..), she was a LOT nicer to SpongeBob! She could tolerate him. But NOW, she can't even stand him! She wants him to get hurt and just has a strong HATRED for SpongeBob. I used to like her as a character but now she's just completely crossed that line of being likeable either.
Agreed. I mean, there were very few episodes where Mrs. Puff got angry at spongebob in the first three seasons, and when she did it was for a valid reason. But now...with episodes like Demolition Doofus...Must I say more?
And with all the times she's been arrested because of those, I think it's clear to say thats she's less of a teacher but more of a criminal
And here's something else Squidward isn't the only character suffering, Plainkton is also being tortured here, it breaks your heart when you see who is supposed to be the real villain of the show, becoming a victim. He was the main bad guy tried to steal the Kraby Patty secret formula a run Mr. Krabs out of business, now he is just portrayed as someone trying to be successful, yes he still tries to steal the formula but the mere fact that every including Mr Krabs and Spongebob mock him for having a failing business, even Karen, his wife mocks him, in the older seasons it was entertaining to see what diabolical plan he had to steal the formula, and more interesting to see how Spongebob and Mr. Krabs would save the day, but now, you would wish that you could just give him the formula yourself
Demolition Doofus, anyone?
@Elisa Castro Don't worry mrs puff ill try harder next semester ring any bells to you guys?
I miss when the show was actually good
MegaSoulHero i miss when my life was actually good
We all do...
Good news! It’s getting good again! :D
It all plotless now like bunny hunt was all and only filler no one learned anything or did anything except go insane
MegaSoulHero my bigger problem is that they force there jokes in instead of making them natural
To be honest, I like the animation from the early seasons like 2002 WAAAAY MORE than I do the new seasons
Me too! You can also get a large pizza for $10.99 only at your Pizza Hut!
I honestly like how Classic the first season looked
I know, the show seems to be overly bright in modern Spongebob.
Me too
Hooba Dooba yea, the old school an8mation was much more wild and funny looking..while the new looks way too clean and polished. I mean its ok and all, but the old shool was so unique
I see some really intelligent commentary here, but I'm not a fan of the forced gags.
thecreativekid13 I am
Agreed. These guys are more smart than they are funny.
i think they're written fine, they just aren't acted very well. That's the kind of thing that can really only improve over time with practice. This channel will probably age very well
Das nasty
Aaron Z I agree with you I feel the jokes could be funny if they had more emotion and interest put into the delivery
I love seasons 1, 2, and 3 so much. I miss when Spongebob was like that.
Spongebob was NEVER EVER great to begin with (WARNING: Never ever watch Spongebob. Watch PaRappa the Rapper's anime instead)
He was drawn more cute and less childish, well that’s my opinion anyway. But yeah this show was amazing back at 1-3
1st season - Classic
2nd and 3rd - Amazing
4th - Different But Not Bad
5-8 - Stop it, Please
9 - A little over mediocre
10-11 - Wow, not bad
@Pindé™️ You shut the hell up!
11-12 same as 11/9
10-11 is worse than 1-9
Season 18 is 9/11
@@KarlBarx676 agreed but season 5-8 suck. Everything else is correct tho
I just realized that Mermaidman & Barnacle Boy were written to satirize Vietnam War Veterans with PTSD. That's pretty frickin dark.
oh thats true????
It's also said that the main characters are the Seven deadly sins, so there is quite a few dark things/secrets
+Jayus They also represent different types of drugs. For examples, Patrick is a stoner, Mr. Krabs is a cocaine kingpin, and Sandy is an alcoholic.
+Trash sandy is pride, Mr Krabs is greed, Patrick is lust, squidward is jealously
Those are all just fucking theories and you should assume they aren't true
Where the hell is the "National No Patrick Day"?
Sydney Taylor at the end of the "gone" episode.
@@adammilette3076 lets just say it was oh how should i put this nicely... the best day ever?
@@chloenieuwsma4846 indeed lol
@@adammilette3076 if binki bottoms gonna play the mean game i can play that to!
@@adammilette3076 I think they're asking for like an episode devoted to it
Why in the new animation, everyone moves like a stretch armstrong doll on cocaine?
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Spongebob hasn't been the same for a few years now. It's really turned into a show revolving around weird, gross faces, screaming, reused content, and confusing plots.
Coco Fish one example of that is Ink Lemonade
Yeah, it gives me a headache
also the storyline doesn't grow either
Tbh I liked Ink Lemonade
Spongebob was NEVER EVER great to begin with (WARNING: Never ever watch Spongebob. Watch PaRappa the Rapper's anime instead)
#10 Sandy's Simplification - 00:54
#09 The overly detailed animation - 03:18
#08 Plot recyclying - 05:43
#07 Loads of filler - 08:58
#06 Everyone being stupid - 13:09
#05 Spongebobs flanderization - 16:12
#04 Mr Krabs' greed - 19:09
#03 Patrick the braindead bully - 23:28
#02 Squidward getting constantly tortured - 29:18
#01 The Cruelty - 33:36
You could sing number 3 to Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
Yeet apparently spongebob is getting better
Tommy pallie #1 makes it seem like the walking dead
Tommy pallie copyright claimed comment
Thanks for the time stamps
What's with all the hate.
1st so what if the video is 45 minutes long.... In my opinion it was very well executed and explained. They could have made it 5 minutes long... true.... but that would not even slightly have covered it all... You can clearly see that they are sad about a part of their childhood being ruined... just like the rest of us.
2nd yes.... it's two grown men talking about Spongebob... So what? That is exactly why they qualify. They have obviously watched Spongebob when they were a lot younger .... and remember what it was and meant back then. Most of the original Spongebob audience is now... you guessed it.... their age! Observing the changes that happened to Spongebob really makes you feel bad, and you can actually feel their pain by seeing how a part of their childhood just got ruined. LIKE MOST OF US DO! And let's be clear here: I'd rather watch 2 grown men talking and doing a moral and ethical analysis of Spongebob than listen to haters that are younger than the original Spongebob series...
3rd As for you guys, who made the video.... Congratulations... you did an excellent job! I salute you!
thank you.
As for your second point on the idiots who comment that, it can all be summarized by this quote:
"A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest."
-C.S. Lewis
mach6247 I really like that quote
MrTheamir That was beautiful man
Armando Torres Thanks friend. It was from the hearth ^^
Gary is the only character that never changed! Just think about it. He loves Spongebob and always stand up for him no matter what. He, Larry, and Pearl are the only characters that never changed at all!
100% agree with you, that's why I no longer watch the series sometime. I always prefer the old series
@@ksmart1235 Spongebob was NEVER EVER great to begin with (WARNING: Never ever watch Spongebob. Watch PaRappa the Rapper's anime instead)
Which makes me question why A Pal For Gary was made
@@edgee.tissuesthetissuebox666 𝑲𝑰𝑫.
Stop advertising your interests in the PaRappa Anime thing. Yes, the anime does preform well, especially in 30 episodes, but this entire video’s comment section is EXCLUSIVELY, PRIMARILY, AND ONLY focused on SPONGEBOB, and the reasons the 𝑴𝑶𝑫𝑬𝑹𝑵 episodes are bronze.
I’m willing to bet you were never great with friends because you eavesdrop in with something unrelated and presumably self-serving, & I hope you are not the same person as you are in these kinds of comments you leave.
The more you spam your heart for a PaRappa anime, the more I’m pasting this comment to you.
@@thisissaah_4101 th-cam.com/video/EQTT23BdABU/w-d-xo.html
Thank God Stephen hillenburg returned to the show before sadly passing away
thank goodness that he's resting in peace instead of having to watch his own show become a monster
@@mattbot5167 yep, because it actually got worse.
This video was made back in 2014.
@@robbiewalker2831 Spongebob was NEVER EVER great to begin with (WARNING: Never ever watch Spongebob. Watch PaRappa the Rapper's anime instead)
@@edgee.tissuesthetissuebox666 can you shut the fuck up? We get it
I haven't watched the new Spongebobs for many years now, but one of things I notice immediately with the new episodes is the surprising lack of artistic detail that used to be central to enhancing immersion. In the original seasons, when characters would make fast motions, air bubbles would form. When Squidward laughed, his nose would shrink and expand. This is just one aspect of the overall decline in quality that the show proudly held in the original seasons. Episodes today feel _cheaper_
There is a lot of tweening involved in the newer episodes. They are not purely hand-drawn frame-by-frame like they used to be. The artists' creative input is declined severely, as there is no "what if we do this?" moment while drawing the animations. The more advanced your tools get to create something, the less creative people seem to become. This is similar to what happened to Star Wars. In the original trilogy, Lucas had to create sets and props, film on location, and use practical effects to get his ideas across. For the prequels, though, he just put people in front of a blue screen and sent the result to a special effects studio.
The less thinking you are forced to do, the less thinking you will do.
Remember when you could see the water effects (that strange shimmer) on the buildings and landscape?
@@dedenneguy_000 actually since Pests Of The West it’s been drawn digitally on tablets.
Spongebob was NEVER EVER great to begin with (WARNING: Never ever watch Spongebob. Watch PaRappa the Rapper's anime instead)
@@ChristianTheChicken
Does this mean the show is at risk of…
Band geeks was the best episode
No arguments there
Chocolate with nuts
It was ok
My favourite episode was House Fancy
yes, it should've been in the superbowl
I really hate the over exaggerated unnecessary faces and body movements. Even when they are just walking, the animators extend their faces. When they wipe something off their face, it’s like their face is a slingshot. They try to make “funny” or “silly” faces, but none of them are not funny or silly at all. They are abusing it, the old spongebob silly faces are much funnier. There’s not even that much silly faces in old spongebob in general, which means they take time so they are actually good.
Spongebob was NEVER EVER great to begin with (WARNING: Never ever watch Spongebob. Watch PaRappa the Rapper's anime instead)
Let me be the one to say this:
Most, if not ALL. Of the modern Spongebob artists might’ve worked on either Rocko’s Modern Life, Ren and Stimpy, or literally any internet parody.
Internet Parodies, and even the other shows I’ve said, are known to be over the top with the art. I’m not saying it’s a completely bad thing (exaggeration is one of the principles of animation for fucks sake), but it’s known to be overused, especially POKÉMON ones like BeeFwee: A Pokémon Parody. Gookie faces aren’t ALL of the video; there is a twist to the titular Butterfree, but it’s owner has definitely got one too many face lifts.
Spongebob artists of the modern day shan’t follow the John K footsteps. Stupid Faces have become unfunny at this point, and I agree with every single word you’re saying. That’s the bottom line.
@@edgee.tissuesthetissuebox666 𝑲𝑰𝑫.
Stop advertising your interests in the PaRappa Anime thing. Yes, the anime does preform well, especially in 30 episodes, but this entire video’s comment section is EXCLUSIVELY, PRIMARILY, AND ONLY focused on SPONGEBOB, and the reasons the 𝑴𝑶𝑫𝑬𝑹𝑵 episodes are bronze.
I’m willing to bet you were never great with friends because you eavesdrop in with something unrelated and presumably self-serving, & I hope you are not the same person as you are in these kinds of comments you leave.
I warned ya
@@thisissaah_4101 th-cam.com/video/EQTT23BdABU/w-d-xo.html
@Muskx I’m pretty sure this video came out before Spongebob had this animation style. Although I have to agree, I hate it too.
The fact that this is 8 years ago and now in 2024 it's gotten so much worse. 😭
New spongebob is bad
But DAMN did they make a great FIRST movie
The first was okay
Yeah you are just a kid
kids and there dumb kid brains.
Exactly! Damn that first movie was epic.
Said no one ever
10: The karate episodes are my favorite with Sandy. I can't think of any from recent years.
9: Some of the detailed animation made a scene more humorous actually but most of the time IMO it's gross. CoughSplinterCough
8: I feel like they recycle the Plankton-Patty plot more than any other and its just bland now. Fun fact: he was only supposed to make one appearance but he was really popular and they brought him back. Which was fine for a while but now...
7: No real comments here, but nice points.
6: I cannot STAND shows where everyone is an idiot. A few is fine but don't make everyone super obnoxious and stupid and ugh!
Remember when Disney Channel parents were smart? Kim Possible's dad was literally a rocket scientist and her mom was a brain surgeon. In American Dragon, Jake's father was kind of a cuckoolander, but he was also ignorant of the truth. Not too many morons.
5: I can't stand how much SPongebob cries. Not because he's a boy, but because most of the time the reason is irritating. I liked it when he stood up for himself in the old episodes, like when he DEMANDED Mr. Krabs hire Squidward again because he was losing his mind. No one I know cries when they stub their toe. They yell and hop around and make noises like Squidward does when he gets mad.
4: In the older episodes, IMO, his money lust could sometimes be humorous or help him develop character, like when he sold Spongebob for 62 cents. He regretted what he had done and that told us he cared about spongebob. Now he treats his fry cook like a slave, sometimes literally by not paying him and letting him take the blame for a crime he committed to save a few dollars.
3: Well put. All of these thoughts I've heard before but you elaborated on them; very well done.
2: I feel bad for Squidward now. In the earlier seasons his misery was just because he hates his job and his neighbors because they ruin everything he holds dear, but now it seems like he's the creators' voodoo doll.
1: I've never thought about all the cruelty, but well done again.
Very interesting video guys!
Jurassic King 10. There's one from season 8, and Karate Star
Jurassic King I agree with you entirely, man.
10. Also, Karate-Island, and Squid Defense are also modern karate episodes
Power of L Also, that clip they used from American Dad perfectly summarized Spongebob and Squidward's dynamic (in the post movie era) brilliantly.
couldn't have said it better man
Spongebob early:Good Jokes
Spongebob now: Random things happening
0:01 Intro
0:51 Sandy's Simplification
3:15 The Overly Detailed Animation
5:40 Plot Recycling
8:55 Loads of filler
13:07 Everyone being stupid
16:09 SpongeBob's Flanderization
19:07 Mr. Krabs' Greed
23:25 Patprick
29:16 The Squidward Torture Porns
32:57 Recap
33:36 The Cruelty
42:18 Outro
43:53 Credits
Am I the only one who prefers season 1's animation style over the other seasons? I like that it isn't that good quality, and sound isn't over used too.
Me too
right?
+Natalie P I think its mostly a nostalgic thing, seeing it in HD, with good animation gives it the vibe that its new. It's like how I much prefer the older Simpsons before 2000 because it isn't crisp and smooth.
+ItsYaBoiElijah Exactly!
it's not a nostalgia thing for the most part(altho that plays into it) crispy cleanness has a lot of downsides, with the older animation your brain would fill in blanks and imagine a much more realisitc world
Why didn't Spongebob just take his arm off in the splinter???? as seen in previous episodes like "Graveyard Shift" and "Secret Box" Spongebob's arm are in fact removable, and grow back!
Phantom Wolf
Spongebob is realistic at times, y'know.
Phantom Wolf Why did he even have blood and puss. HE'S A SPONGE
Plus, since spongebob is a sponge, couldn't he just regrow his limbs like a starfish does?
Spongebob doesn't have continuity
Phantom Wolf Because the writers wouldnt know continuity if it held them at gunpoint
Point #0 - The kids of today were born too late to know what the show used to be.
TheMiningTeam ? They air the older episodes all the time
Well that's more the number 1 reason why it's still on air
Oh, whoop de doo, another 'today's kids will never understand' comment. That's _totally_ not r/gatekeeperish at all.
I knew the show was getting worse. but I have a dvd of season 1 and 2 episodes
@@beachballssideaccount go back to reddit
I remember watching “modern” SpongeBob as a kid in the 2010s and just really disliking it, mostly for the show’s gross art style and the cruel nature of the characters, making me steer clear from SpongeBob for most of my childhood. It wasn’t until I got older and saw memes of old SpongeBob that I decided to go back to the show and see its older episodes. From what I could tell, old and “modern” SpongeBob are two completely different shows, with the former having charming animation, a light-hearted tone among the cast, and genuinely funny and iconic moments that are still referenced today. Overall, I just wish that old SpongeBob was the type of show and first impression I got of SpongeBob when I was a kid rather than “modern” SpongeBob and I’m certainly not excited to see the new SpongeBob show Nickelodeon is making despite Hillenberg’s wishes. Alas, at least we have the SpongeBob musical.
@Valerie Cee I understand how you feel. Since I was born in late 2001, I grew up watching the classic and middle episodes. However at 11 years old, I have realized how mean spirited and annoying had the show become. Therefore, I developed a hatred of “modern at the time” spongebob.
I watched the first three seasons of SpongeBob over and over again last year, and I have to say that I was surprised by how the characters were amazingly made. Like Squidward saving SpongeBob from getting hit by a truck in Krusty Krab Pizza and later on shoves the pizza in the orderer’s face after he made SpongeBob cry. SpongeBob was more mature back then but was childish, Patrick was a lovable idiot who cared about his best friend, Squidward was a jerk but cared for his neighbor a little, Sandy was a girlboss, and Mr. Krabs actually cared about his employees.
Now since Paul Tibbett became head writer, he managed to destroy the characters in seasons 5-9, but the show was good again when Stephan came back, until he died :(
I really hope this show ends, because it’s been running for too long and it needs a finale. The characters that haven’t been affected by the horrible writers were Pearl, Gary, Larry, and the Flying Dutchman.
"People who wrong others get off Scott free while the innocent get blamed" sounds like the school I'm in right now!
Z Man because in school you are absolutely guilty until proven innocent
Z Man sounds like every school
Yeah
But god forbid plankton knows how to make a burger
do you like not care this guy and a bunch of other people destroyed so many lives with their influence
#10 (Sandy) - 0:53
#9 (Overly Detailed Animation) - 3:19
#8 (Plot Recycling) - 5:43
#7 (Filler) - 8:58
#6 (Stupid Characters) - 13:10
#5 (Spongebob's Flanderization) - 16:12
#4 (Mr. Krabs' Greed) - 19:10
#3 (Patrick) - 23:29
#2 (Squidward Torture Porn) - 29:20
#1 (Cruelty) - 33:37
Connor Murphy This comment deserves more likes 👍
Connor Murphy You mean PatPRICK?
Harry Tapscott What about the Squidward Torture Porn theme?
Harry Tapscott and the filler's Papers, Please! Theme.
Connor Murphy I think I love you
the show has become nothing but : shouting, crying, laughing, yelling, whining, and just a bunch of annoying noises.
That’s what I usually notice, just annoying sounds like listening to a toddler playing or something.
Spongebob was NEVER EVER great to begin with (WARNING: Never ever watch Spongebob. Watch PaRappa the Rapper's anime instead)
Sounds like middle school
@@edgee.tissuesthetissuebox666 damn this bum 12 year old would spamming same comment like this
And some kids still defending that
I think one more problem with this show is the fast-paced humor. I saw some episodes from seasons 5-8 recently and I saw some jokes that had potential to work, but immediately right after those jokes it went to the next scene all of a sudden. The creators didn't even bother to let the joke breathe for a bit, at least seasons 1-3 gave their jokes more breathing space to give you time to realize it rather than rushing them for no reason.
Spongebob was NEVER EVER great to begin with (WARNING: Never ever watch Spongebob. Watch PaRappa the Rapper's anime instead)
@@edgee.tissuesthetissuebox666 okay, mr promotor.
@@edgee.tissuesthetissuebox666 are you just here to promote parappa?
@@professionalidiot1156 No.
Then why are you commenting the exact same thing every time I see you in this comment section?
this is better organized than modern spongebob
YES
Burrrrrrn!
+Jaelynn G. amen
The one bad thing that's wrong with new SpongeBob.
Everything
Pastapins
Fehu!!
That is also what is wrong with Shark Tale, Norm of the North, The Emoji Movie, and Ralph Breaks the Internet. May 2, 2020, 6:12pm
Gl1mm3ring That’s not true at all
@@nickgadson266 it kinda is
mattbot No it’s not
Two things I think you guys mentioned but missed sort of:
1) genuinely less witty writing
2) over reliance on gross out humor
I think those problems in of itself are self-explanatory, but they feel that the best way to explain it was to showcase it, 5x the reasons.
Hell, even Adam Sandler movies have less gross out humor than modern Spongebob
3) Spongebob was NEVER EVER great to begin with (WARNING: Never ever watch Spongebob. Watch PaRappa the Rapper's anime instead)
@@edgee.tissuesthetissuebox666 𝑲𝑰𝑫.
Stop advertising your interests in the PaRappa Anime thing. Yes, the anime does preform well, especially in 30 episodes, but this entire video’s comment section is EXCLUSIVELY, PRIMARILY, AND ONLY focused on SPONGEBOB, and the reasons the 𝑴𝑶𝑫𝑬𝑹𝑵 episodes are bronze.
I’m willing to bet you were never great with friends because you eavesdrop in with something unrelated and presumably self-serving, & I hope you are not the same person as you are in these kinds of comments you leave.
@@thisissaah_4101 th-cam.com/video/EQTT23BdABU/w-d-xo.html
I come back to rewatch this, even 3 years after it's been posted. After the original producer died, I think they should end the show in a way like Band Geeks- but not using the same plot... but making a new one, one that is memorable, and one where everybody is happy, and puts closure on the series, in honor of Stephen Hillenburg.
I believe there is a copypasta describing this:
Just imagine this one day. The last episode of spongebob. Spongebob finally got his drivers license. Squidward finally became a famous musician and artist. Sandy makes a groundbreaking scientific discovery. Mr. Krabs makes a million dollars and retires in style and passes his formula on to Plankton to continue the business and they shake hands calling eachother brothers. As for patrick, well, he proves to the world that mayonaise is in fact an instrument. The gang gathers one last time to have fun in jellyfish fields. The camera slowly zooms out over bikini bottom as this song begins to play and we hear that french narrator calmly say, "Ahh, bikini bottom. Here we leave our nautical friends. And as they say, F is for friends who do stuff together, U is for you and me, N is for anywhere and anytime at all, down here in the deep blue sea. (Credits)
These comments are incredibly childish.
Fr
SpongeBob has a large and loyal fanbase. Of course people are going to leave childish comments. Unfortunately, SOME of the old spongebob fans are absolute retards because they will literally spam terrible ideas such as "fire all the new writers" or "bring back hillenburg" (P.S, he works on the show, but as an executive producer. In addition to that, he has ALWAYS been an executive producer, even after the movie... and he also left the show around 2002 to work on the movie.)
The the irony is, they are talking about how the show is for kids :p
Party Town it's good for the WRONG reasons.
what? you guys don't remember the episode were Plankton disguised as Jontron, it was an hour long special.
im joking
Yeah really underated
It was the best episode of the entire show
Swishy Bros nah it’s the best episode in animation
Swishy Bros an hour not a hour, dipshit
Kats underrated!
I hate Mr Krabs so much
The old one was done better
Now i even feel more sorry for plankton, surely they changed Plankton personality from evil scientist like Dr Eggman, Dofensmith, and Neo Cortex, become victimness failure guy
You gotta hate patrick way more than Mr. Krabs. Patrick's cruelty is fucking beyond and at this point I feel like he should just be thrown out of the show because of how annoying he is. I think there is way more wrong with patrick than what was covered on this video and I think a 3 hour video can be made just about how annoying patrick is.
@@brokenhearth1826 Yeah Sure Mr. Krabs was greedy but he was able to over come it & he cared more about others.
He's practically insane in the new episodes. There's even an entire episode of just him trying it literally kill squidward for money. He literally straight up doesn't care now.
Squidward's my favorite character so it really hurts to see him being tortured all the time. That episode with the toenail made me physically cringe and feel like my toenail was gonna be ripped off...
I honestly like Pre-movie Squidward more.In the older episodes,he was a jerk who got what he deserved,but he was unlikeable.But in the newer episodes,he feels like an abuse victim
I definitely felt that scene even as a kid. I hate it so much.
Also the choir episode, Good Neighbors, Black Lemonade, Smooth Jazz At Bikini Bottom, and more
This comment is filler, stay tuned for the next comment.
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+Madway this comment is also filler
fat
Reading this is pointless
Ω Sir. Kaito Ω as is reading this reply
Hey dude I once was a Patrick fanboy but new pat ruined my love for him
Despite how Patrick was really unlikable in season 7, and 8, whenever I see him in a good Patrick-centric episode (in any season), I usually smile
Same. 😭
Riggin Burgess well he's back to his old lovable self since Hillenburgh returned.
well you can be still a patrick fanboy, even if just of the old patrick
I am glad to know Spongebob has moved on from most of these issues.
As collage humor once said the real spongebob is dead
A grade student could replace the writers at this point.
Gaming Palace yep
Spongebob used to be for adults And kids. Because it had so many adult like jokes. For example: Krabby Land. Here is a joke from the episode. "Have your free coloring book& liability weavers"!!
it wasn't till the end that I realised I've seen this video before. bye bye 45 minutes of my life.
44 minutes and 23 seconds*
Watplr Pootis
-_- :P
Jesse McClure kek
Wrath's Turntable Time Machine Rocksmash Attack (AKA The Mysterious Reuploader, Ace-edo Mask!) I also tend to read the description, but sometimes I forget to.
Lol rip
Number 10 is accurate to how female protagonists in Hollywood are written nowadays because they are overpowered and underdeveloped
This genuinely hurts women in fiction.
I can imagine that the crew and maybe even a number of the voice actors wanted to leave due to how terrible Spongebob evolved into but didn’t because they knew a large chunk of their income came from this show...
Supposedly, the voice actor's are still contracteully bound to do their lines regardless if they wanted to leave or not. Clancy Brown refused to do his lines for the one course meal episode
Why do you both have the same voice though
It's the quality of the audio if it was higher quality you'd hear more of a difference
xD lol
Stephanie Joobern ...? Their voices are extremely different to me. XD
James McGuinness Oh, makes sense
They don't they just both have deep voices, but the one with glasses has a less southern accent and its a bit higher
I hate sponge Bob after 2005 but before 2005 is gold
Amen, brother!
Biggy piggy 2005 IS WHEN I WAS BORN YOU JERK!
Mr. Cheese Lover I was born in 2003
Mr. Cheese Lover I was born in 2016
Mr. Cheese Lover
You want an award or something?
at least jimmy neutron had good hair gel
& His show & movie was good but Planet Sheen was crap.
At least Jimmy neutron was way better
I myself think the show had gone downhill since the creator passed away. He will be missed.
I miss the creator.... 😔😔😔🤧🤧🤧
WARNING: This comment section contains people only criticizing this video in violent ways using unoriginal jokes and insults!
Process with caution
"get a job"
"you're to old to be criticizing a show meant for kids"
"44 minutes? That's too long!"
"this is so cringey"
"something about autism"
There, now you've read the entire comment section
They are getting way too much into it.
Those close ups are weird and I can see how children may be frightened by them,but other than that,who cares?
+Porkpie Johnny Gaming True, I want to know are people teenagers that can't just watch the video without complaing about how long it is? People also say "It's a kid show" pisses me off. Great,Now people will complain "This comment it to long I can't read this make it shorter stupid"
whenever i watch a standalone video like this, and not something like a video with a secured fanbase, i keep forgetting how utterly retarded and uneducated people can be
Your mother is a nice lady.
"make fun of suicidal people" you mean onision~
Really makes you think...
suicide isn't a joke, nevermind, it is
+EnderBeast 87 do stand up
lesson learned in your opinion that is~
+@prostidude_ on Twitter Stop. Now.
There’s quite a few dislikes. There’s actually a lot of people who defend modern Spongebob? Disgraceful!
Disgraceful people are obviously dramatic
Spongebob now is good so stfu
Burrito Briefs It’s like what K’Maya Smith said, you and modern Spongebob fans are drama queens.
@@burritobriefs1859 You sound ignorant too.... 🙄🙄🙄🙄
K'Maya Smith Plus I haven’t seen Spongebob in a long time. Haven’t kept up with the new episodes since One Coarse Meal, and even though I heard that Stephen Hillenburg (RIP) was coming back, I felt like it was too late. When I heard about the STP Lemonade episode, it officially made me stop watching the newer episodes. So even if the newest episodes are better than the ones this video is basing on, they couldn’t be as good as the ones in the first three seasons. Also, the comment I wrote is based on the episodes this video was talking about, not the newest ones. This video probably is outdated but whatever. If people like the newest episodes, then fine, but if they like the ones presented in this video, then that’s no good.
If anything I feel bad for Squidward, no one bothers to listen to him and Spongebob and Patrick don't realize that he wants to be alone and Patrick... MY GOD!! I remember when Spongebob got stuck in the ringer (I think that's what it's called" and Patrick makes everything harder for him by putting glue on him, taking him to a park where Spongebob can't do anything and when Spongebob yells at Patrick everyone gets mad at him, the lesson should be for Patrick to realize he is causing more harm then good not oh your friend tried to help you be grateful even if it was not good at all. I used to like Patrick but as you mentioned instead of him being the loveable goofball he's an asshole and a complete moron.
Do you remember the episode of spongebob where he said a curse word but I bleeped it out with a dolphin noise
*it
Sailor Mouth. OWN THE UNCENSORED EDTION NOW!!! ONLY ON ADULT SWIM!!!!
+TheRaCCooNJoKer: No, f*ck
The dolphin noise was the curse word
I remember that
What's up with the criticism? I thought this video was great, even its length, it just added to help the video, to explain the problem better.
It's just the jokes that are bad
Demon Rantz Maybe it's their sarcasm of how boring the jokes are in SpongeBob now.
YES!!
a message from 2024, I have seen this video 3 times because i can't escape the bs that is Spongebob. If you want can you make a your more recent take on the latest spongebob?
"People who wrong each other get off scot free while the innocent get blamed." Sounds like the school I used to go to
Ben Andrews Same here
sounds like every school tbh
@@alecrutz6979 sounds like america
@@mattbot5167 cough cough cough* white people* cough cough
@@crownagex5687 cough racist cough
They should just cancel Spongebob. Regardless if they hired some of the old writers back, it's far too late. The tone and quality of the show has wained far too much and the damage is irreparable.
I agree completely, it's really sad
its a good show
they should've ended the series after the movie,who agrees with me
Aaron gaming Everyone
+LGW 1234159 YYYEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHH
What the shiznit happened to Sandy's accent?!
*shiznit*
What the shiznitickfickshicklepicklekikcklecock happened to Patrick in seasons 6-7?!
Shiznit? Lmaoooo
R.I.P. Stephen Hillenburg
overly late, but here’s a plot idea that may or may not be a filler episode. what if something sparks a friendship between plankton and mr krabs again, and they agree to a partnership, but later they recognize their incompatibility to work together, and fight over management of the restaurant? kind of like that krusty bucket episode but they don’t team up just because someone steals the restaurant or formula or whatever, like they take karen’s advice and become partners? its a running gag for plankton vs krabs but like you said, the formula stealing plans and schemes are getting very repetitive and boring.
I personally thought that spongebob died that day they aired "the best day ever"
im sad to admit but it died after the movie for me.
It went downhill from that point in my opinion, though you can't deny there have still been a few half decent episodes since then.
It died peacefully after the movie. The creators had to wake it.
That was the worst day ever...
it was supposed to stop after the movie
plankton disguising as jontron should happen
I could say Jon Tron quotes in Planton's voice so It can happen maybe.
The Show should’ve ended at the first movie
Realistically I think the second movie was a good place to put the series to rest. After that, the show changed a lot and at this point SpongeBob is spiritually dead. Meaning that SpongeBob isn't SpongeBob anymore it's a generic kids show made by SpongeBob fans.
@@slackershrub8923For Real! And I really hate to say this because I love this show, but SpongeBob is one of the most overrated shows ever.
What good is a show if only 23% of the show is considered the best. The other 77% mid at best or unwatchable at worst.
same@@slackershrub8923
they put foot fetish in the show now@@slackershrub8923
@@OakTreeIsaac season 1-3 pure classic amazing, memorable, season 4-5 ok, pretty fun to watch, had a few mess ups, season 6-9A, squidward hurt = funny, kinda boring but animation was ok, season 9B-present, not even spongebob anymore, fans wrote for the show, fetishes
I'd also like to point out Squidward's meanness towards Spongebob. Yeah, he was often mean to him, but he never took it to far, and when he did, he felt bad afterwards.
Remember the episode little yellow book
the worst part of SpongeBob was the part with squidwards toenail. i couldn't even watch.
TheTrueLuigiFan in a grotesque And brutal way?
Sherlock Watson lmao that part was hilarious
For me it was the eyebrows scene
For me, it was the horrible, hope-for-humanity-draining monstrosity from WhoBob WhatPants. That thing is fucking terrifying, and I sincerely hope the animator who drew it got fired and blacklisted. It's like if Sure Squidward and Moar Krabs had an unholy love child, but just like in the classic, drama-tinged epic The Ugly Barnacle, it was so ugly that they died. It's so horrifying that it gives my nightmares nightmares. It's fucking disturbing... and I don't particularly care for it.
Sherlock Watson I always ran out of the room before.. but even now, I still get disturbed by it.
This didn't need to be 50 fuckin minutes
xD
+FierceGMod 😂
Exstweem spots.
Wow ur right
ya it's like 3 to 5 mins per point they make
Unfortunately Hillenburg passed away before the show could improve much more
Nickelodeon went from spongebob to mr crabs.
Wow 0_o This is one of the worst comment sections I have ever seen. And keep in mind I have read comments from GradeAUnderA and Leafy expose videos.
"You guys are over analyzing it"- This argument is just a blanket term to silence criticism. I love how everyone says this, but they almost never back up the statement. In that case, your argument has absolutely no weight. However, if you say this and then complain about their "cringy jokes" and all that, aren't you doing the exact same thing as them? Bit hypocritical, don't you think?
"It's just a kid show" SO WHAT? That doesn't free it from criticism. I could use the same argument against you and say "It's just a youtube video".
"This video was 50 minutes and they complain about filler" Firstly, learn how to count. It's 44 :p
Secondly, are you really that desperate for argument? This is a youtube video, not a show. There isn't any plot, so technically there is no "filler". But I'll give these people the benefit of the doubt and say instead that they were "wasting time". Uh.....did you watch the video? Most of it they stayed on track and talked about the number. Yeah, it took a while, but you want to know why? Because they actually wanted to make a good video and elaborate on their arguments. Oh, and "jokes" are not an excuse for "filler" unless they go on forever, which none of them do (off the top of my head)
Honestly all this proves to me is how desperate some people can be for an argument and how most people in this comment section have no idea how to provide any fair criticism aside from "her der your joke aren't funny". If you dislike the video, fair enough. You are allowed your opinion. But these arguments are just blanket terms that don't provide any good reason to dislike it.
+TheTrueLuigiFan
1. "Nonetheless, this is still an awful video"
Did I say anything about the quality of the video? The answer is no.
All I did was list counter arguments to the blanket arguments that people cough up.
I enjoyed the video, but since this has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the video and only the people who want to shut these guys up through every means necessary, we can agree to disagree. It's completely irrelevant.
2. "Literally every point they bring up can be countered"
No duh. They are giving their OPINIONS. Everyone has their own opinions, and every opinion ever given forth has another side.
Also, BY YOUR OWN LOGIC, considering I'm countering your arguments, I guess that means all your arguments are awful :p
3. "EVEN THE TITLE OF THE VIDEO CAN BE COUNTERED. When they say modern, obviously they are referencing bad SpongeBob, not the modern SpongeBob."
I agree with this point to an extent. These guys (and the community in general, really) uses the term "modern" as kind of the bad seasons. Everyone has their own definition of "Modern Spongebob". Despite it being pretty nitpicky, I agree with to an extent.
4. "(P.S., I think modern SB is amazing. Now shoot yourself in the head if you are going to attack me for my opinion.)"
Arguably your weakest point. You tell me to kill myself if I'm going to attack you for my opinion?
Uh......aren't you literally doing the exact same thing to me? You're telling me to kill myself (a.k.a. attacking me) for my own opinion on the comment section of this video/my opinions on modern Spongebob.
I recommend looking up the word "hypocrisy"
1. "The same way you stated your point of view, the same way I'll state mine. No need to ask me for my opinion, sir. I'll state it whenever I'd like."
Again, I never said anything about the actual video. It's completely irrelevant.
Also, I never "asked you for your opinion". Your just pulling that out of thin air. All I said is we can agree to disagree.
2. "Yet they are treating every single one of them as a fact. Also, what kind of sh*t logic is that? When have I ever stated that? Context is a thing."
Name 1 place in the video they stated their opinions as facts.
Actually, at the end of the video they even said they wouldn't judge people they don't even know based on the show they liked.
"Also, what kind of sh*t logic is that?"
Your logic apparently :p
You specifically said, "Literally every point they bring up can be countered." So that means if you can counter an argument, it's a bad argument, by your logic. Either that, or you did a horrible job explaining yourself, which still isn't my fault.
3. "LOL, you took everything I've said out of context." Ok, stop right here. Who are you, Keemstar?
Jokes aside, I didn't take a word of what you said out of context. I put the entire quote there. I don't think you understand what "out of context" means.
"If you disagree with my opinion, fine, but I was addressing this to anyone who just-so-happens to pass by this comment section and attack me for liking modern SB. Also, discussion =/= attacking."
"discussion =/= attacking."
But you know what does equal attacking?
Telling someone to kill themselves. Like you did.
"know the difference, sir Avis. I like your channel man, but where did all of your point even come from???"
I do know the difference. I know the difference between telling someone to kill themselves and discussing opinions. Apparently you don't.
I appreciate your compliments, but hardly any of your arguments addressed mine. Not even in your first comment.
My issue was the comment. And you decided to go on a rant on the video itself, which is not what I was even talking about to begin with.
1. "I ain't going to rewatch this video. It's a chore to sit through. The comment sections are just people criticizing this video overall and not specific sections of it. The top comment literally states something about them saying there isn't much to say."
You could have just skipped to the part where they talk about One Coarse Meal. That's that I did :p
Of course I don't expect you to sit through a 44 minute video you obviously don't like XD
2. "The fact that I took it seriously means I didn't find it funny, at all. Even without the "jokes aside", the KEEM jokes are lame now."
It doesn't matter if you found it funny or not. It was a joke, and not something to be taken seriously.
3. "I think you misunderstood what I said. No, shooting yourself and killing yourself are the same things. I stated that if you're going to state something like "Modern SB is for stupid people" or anything like that, then please die."
"No, not really. I fail to see where I'm being hypocritical because I just explained myself clearly."
BECAUSE YOU SKIPPED A GIANT SECTION OF MY COMMENT. If I agreed with you in that section, then whatever, I wouldn't have cared. We've been doing that the whole time anyways :p
Right after I was done talking about One Coarse Meal, there was an entire section where I basically explained that this whole time your biggest complaint with me is "I wasn't letting you have your opinion" or whatever. Yet you called their opinion "false".
I recommend taking a look at that.
Also, you called me out for making "assumptions", yet you already made one yourself:
"Are you implying one's opinion is irrelevant?
Sick."
"No, not really. I fail to see where I'm being hypocritical because I just explained myself clearly."
All you did was explain how hypocritical you were XD
"I stated that if you're going to state something like "Modern SB is for stupid people" or anything like that, then please die."
Translation: It's not okay for other people to attack me (i.e. attack you for liking modern Spongebob) but it's completely 100% okay for you to attack them (i.e. tell them to kill themselves)
How do you not see the hypocrisy in that? It's literally the same thing.
1. "LOL WHAT?! Where did you get this from?
With or without you stating my statement is irrelevant or not, it still will be my opinion. I'm sorry, but YES, what I have stated is relevant because we are specifically talking about this video. Do you not know what a comments section is for?"
The only reason it's "relevant" is because you brought it up. In my original first comment, I SPECIFICALLY only talked about the comment section. The only thing I said in my comment about the video was, and I quote:
"If you dislike the video, fair enough. You are allowed your opinion."
The rest of my entire first comment was SPECIFICALLY about the comments.
So you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, or you just didn't both reading my original comment. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if it was both.
"They are treating them as facts."
Stop right there.
Again, provide evidence. You can't make a bold statement like that and then not back it up at all.
As I said previously, the specifically said towards the end of the video, "If you dislike this show, fine. It would be unfair for us to judge you based on the show you like" (This isn't quote for quote btw)
You have no evidence for them treating their facts like opinions. They never stated it as facted, and they said it was fine if you like the show.
"There is such thing as a wrong opinion."
Okay, stop. Stop, stop stop. I'm done. I can't even do this anymore.
You are outright STATING their opinion is wrong.
You clearly have no idea what an opinion is. Either that, or you know it, but still knowingly disrespect their opinion by claiming it is wrong.
For someone that was so mad at me for "claiming your opinion is irrelevant", you outright STATED that their opinion is wrong.
If you can't understand that there are no such thing as right or wrong opinions, and that opinions are only personal beliefs, then I can't continue this conversation.
1. "Yes, but they make it seem like that this is all of what modern SB is despite it being not true."
IN THEIR OPINION, this is what modern Spongebob is.
I really don't understand why you can't just let them have their opinion.
2. "If I call the sky purple, is my opinion right? wrong"
The sky being blue is a fact, not an opinion.
The plot recycling part (your example) is an opinion. In their opinion, modern Spongebob reuses plots. If you disagree, that is perfectly fine. But that is still their opinion, and for some reason you won't let them have it.
3. "I claim it is wrong because I can tell they have some sort of bias towards premovie SB, treating it like it is a God and completely flawless. Nowhere in the video have they ever stated that premovie has had flaws too, either that, or they're blinded by nostalgia!"
Even if it is biased (which is just an assumption, and you have no evidence behind it) who cares! It's still an opinion!
I really don't understand why you won't just let them have their opinion.
They never said ANYTHING in this video was fact. They never insulted anyone for liking the show. All they did was give their opinion.
You two look like the kids that even the biggest bullies feel bad about bullying
Lol
u haramble look like the ugly peace of shit. shut up u ass
+Manyworld come on man be nice...
And you're 12!
dicks out
It’s crazy how this was made over 10 years ago and now the current SpongeBob feels like a parody of what it once was.
Spongebob episode report form:
Character: Cuddle E Hugs
Episode: Cuddle E Hugs
Issue: Drug references and addiction
Length of issue: 3/4 of episode
I like the original animation and show
I think everyone did
I like the YTPs
Well if you see some notable spongebob internet jokes meme, most of them is from older episode and season, and this is a prove that the old stilll gold, rip hilenburg you are a real father that know how spongebob should be
Me too, and the famous quotes and memes.
Patrick is worse than Mr.Krabs
I hate them both as much to the point where they are my most hated characters of all time. They are too greedy/sociopathic to take.
Lets just say they're all worse now... Except for squidward who just gets tormented..
Brandyn Lovett same
playerdude2 Plankton and Gary are good too
Brandyn Lovett Patrick was hilarious
36:35
Dude not even PLANKTON would’ve done that in the old seasons!!
This aged incredibly well lmao
This is hilarious
Top ten problems with modern spongebob: modern spongebob
Oh.
The number -1 is how modern spoonjeblabb exists! (I know it's spelled SpongeBob. I misspelled it on purpose.)
Why are all these idiots complaining about this “post-movie” racket?
@@nickgadson266 cause it's when the show started to drop in quality, after the 1st movie and before the 2nd
Waluigi In Smash That’s not true at all!
Another thing that bothered me was their obsession with more sound effects like the blinking or the high pitched squeaking that happens every time Spongebob laughs and gets squished a tiny bit. It wouldn't be as annoying if most of modern Spongebob was not filler. But seeing that it is, the sound effects become very noticeable.
+George McCartney oh look, you're using examples from 6-9 years ago. what excellent backup.
+LuigiFan860 Uh, what exactly do you mean by that? I don't understand what you're saying.
George McCartney
"pitched squeaking that happens every time Spongebob laughs and gets squished a tiny bit."
Happened in Funny Pants. And when did that episode air? Oh... 11 years ago.
+LuigiFan860 That's still a modern episode, some clips of that was even used here in this video when they were talking about SpongeBob's Flanderization.
George McCartney
I don't consider it one. It's really based on your own interpretation.
I think one of my favourite moments in Classic Spongebob is in the Krusty Krab pizza episode. After they deliver the pizza and the customer yells at Spongebob, Squidward gets mad and decides to make Spongebob feel better. Even Squidward, who argued with Spongebob the whole episode, got upset when he saw Spongebob upset, because he does like him. He just cant deal with him all the time
I can simply tell that this video came out in 2013.
Still one of my favorite videos on TH-cam.
No offense, but if that's the case, then you must have a terrible taste in content. Just my opinion.
TheTrueLuigiFan didn't you tell someone to go kill themselve once in some of the comments,?
TheTrueLuigiFan the reason why you're being called out is because you aren't elaborating. Why do you think Kyle Herold has a bad taste?
Stop begin edgy TheTrueLuigiFan.
Just another Roblox kid.
Kyle Herold This is the worst video I've seen and the show didn't get worse, 95% of all kids watching this disagree with you, the show actually got funnier, the animation got better, the storyboards got better, nobody at all pays attention to the background characters, etc etc etc...
Nobody cares what you think! If you're just hating on the show JUST DON'T WATCH IT!!! It's so simple!!!You don't need to share your hate for the show!!!
I hate people who just share their hate to the public for no reason whatsoever.
This video shouldn't be on TH-cam, if you keep sharing your hate for things your channel shouldn't be on TH-cam!
in my opinion they should have just skipped the jokes. The points they make are fine it's just they're idea of humor is kinda cringe
Bandersnatch41 humour*
Bandersnatch41 ikr. They made a section of how spongebob has these fillers on the show that are useless, unless they're funny and entertaining (etc): same with these guys, they try too hard
James Richard Jeremy Clarkson-Hammond-May nope... humor
Bullshit I know you laughed at the police report and the fake version of what happens in OCM
Big_Ouchy they meant TRY to be funny and entertaining they did try though modern spongebob doesn't
its even worse then it was in 2016, they incorporated writer's fetish trope
I feel the show really went downhill when Hillenburg switched to executive producer, Paul Tibbitt took over, and the original writing staff was switched out for Ren & Stimpy’s writing staff explaining literally every point that is talked about on this video. Reminder: the R&S writers were not there during the first three seasons so they’re not sure what happened there
please make the lines less scripted. it is easy to tell when your interaction with each other is scripted. as well as the facial reactions. to get far in youtube, you really just have to be yourself. relax. the harder you try, the worse it is. its cringy when bad acting is involved. this reminds me of the high school student videos i had to watch back then.
i couldnt watch it all the way through. the cringe is too real.
Except they're clearly also trying to be comedic at the same time, but because of the acting it doesn't come across as funny, just cringey, which gets in the way of the points they're trying to make.
some people are just too obnoxious
please make the lines less scripted = oxymoron
Danielle Connour of course they are scripted it's suppose to be it's not comedy u dumb ass bitch
I love this video because it basically explains *ALL* the flaws of Spongebob (at least after the return of Hillenburg), plus I think the comments are too negative :|.
nice to have people like you here
4:16
"Oh, dear Lord, what is _THAT?!"_
When Mr Krabs sold spongebob for 62 cents, he only started crying because he then realised how much money he would loose without spongebob working there
Nickelodeon is just terrible now in my opinion. ☹️🙁☹️🙁
It's not 100% bad. There are still good shows like Harvey Beaks and Loud House.
mach6247 What about the 26 terrible sitcoms. And Fanboy and Chum Chum and BreadWinners and the fact they had Fred from Fred as a show.
They sucked bullcrap so Nickelodeon is terrible now
Frozen Vessel yeah
mach6247 loud house is crap
xXCopper KidXx naw
i knew there was something about the modern seasons that just rubbed me the wrong way, but i couldn't for the life of me figure it out. you just put your finger on all of the reasons it made me so uncomfortable. so, thanks for helping me with that, i guess. it's really sad that a show as great as spongebob, that i absolutely loved as a little kid, has been reduced to something so awful as this hell of a show. it's like teen titans go but more morbid.
Jay D You just read my mind!!
Jay D
I grew up watching the modern spongebob, and after renting the other seasons from the public library, I think those are better. I'll still watch modern spongebob, because I still enjoy that nostalgia, but it just isn't the same.
The SpongeBob rebirth theory (for those who don't know) goes like this; In the first SpongeBob movie when he gets dried out, he actually died. And when he was brought back to life, he had to start learning all over again as a child. If he didn't die, he at least got severe brain damage. That's why his character ark is rendered meaningless, that's why he doesn't succeed a day as manager, that's why he's much less mature after the movie, etc.
It makes sense, even though it's probably not canon. Maybe not rebirth, but severe amnesia and brain damage would explain a lot.
Who finds this video nostalgic?
I remember watching this on my 3DS browser back when I was 14.
I'm 19 now.
The points while overexagerated, are spot on, and overall this is a good video, but I'll admit a lot of those reviewer jokes are pretty cringy and aged badly.
Same
I love this vid man
This just makes me feel old.
I mean the jokes are a bit nostalgic. Since they worked better back then, and it also kinda showed the amateur old fashion way TH-cam used to be.