so they went to a starbucks to have a meeting, couldnt use the facilities because they didnt buy anything, brought their own food and beverage, which is a health code violation, then got arrested because they wouldnt leave private property. Why is this even in the news.
Gamean Castro Do you even know english? What does any of this have to do with race? Everything that happened with Starbucks had nothing to do with race. So, everyone getting all riled up over the situation are either stupid and can't do research to see how it's not race related or they are racist themselves.
Whites don't see the problem because many times that whites do the same thing, no one calls the police to have them arrested. Yal just want to be blind. Yal know how to complain and whine about blacks using racial slurs towards whites and no one bats an eye. Special privilege is unknown to the ones who benefits from it.
Stixx and Stonerz This doesn't happen to whites because we would be too embarrassed to do this. Black people like to be the center of attention speaking loudly enough so the whole block can hear and wearing their pants down around the knees almost.
I have met people at Starbucks and then when the other party arrived we bought drinks. Never had a problem. This was racially motivated. 12k dislikes on this video tells you all you need to know about America.
+David Macera You're just one person, moron. Starbucks has thousands of stores. I would be willing to bet this one has a history of loiterers who do not make a purchase. They were given several warnings to leave and refused to do so. The average white person wouldn't make a scene over something so stupid.
You’re missing the point. They did nothing wrong. They were just waiting for someone, which I’m sure plenty of others have done and no one bats an eye.
There’s Worse Content Out There Exactly. And some of the replies to this are disgusting. There’s no reason they should have been arrested for waiting. That’s the point and it doesn’t matter what race you are. How many people have done the same thing? Did they all get arrested? And since when can you not use a bathroom without purchasing something first?
The lawyer: 'You are asking them to know the intent of someone else...... Look at the video it is obvious, they don't have to answer. You know the intent.' Lawyering.
Rose parks back of the bus was a staged pre planned event others did the same as her at the time but never got their credit like she did cuz her story would "sale" better PR for the cause.
The Starbucks CEO literally said Starbucks was wrong and they had the right to use the restroom but people in these comments are arguing saying that it was the black men’s faults for not buying something... people will find any possible way to justify racism, even when they’re blatantly wrong.
Jojo Banks why do you ppl always have to assume ppl disagree because they’re racist ?? Shit like this happens in the white community what they gonna blame it on? Blue eye privilege , seriously get a grip it’s not that deep
what racism??? you're in a HISTORICALLY white nation that allows other races to live here. these two men came to the restaurant, using free wifi and they didn't buy anything,
i manage a business, large nationwide well known chain. if someone loiters in or outside the store you offer them assistance. if they say no thank you im just going to be sitting here then you inform them that the store policy is that we dont allow loitering and you ask them politely to leave. most people are respectful and will leave. if they refuse you call the police to remove them. if this incident happened at my store the ceo of the company would probably cover his ass the same way this guy did. even though i would be following the companies policy clearly stated on signs outside the store. most of the people i have asked to leave my stores property have been white. if they were black that makes me a racist?
Who calls 911 after 2 mins? The manager could have asked them to leave or give a warning. He said the manager didn’t ask them to leave. So many people wait at Starbucks without purchasing.
Hmm the manager told them to leave they didn't..so cops were called. It's not that hard to grasp. After the cops told them to leave they still refused so their retarded asses were arrested.
Silver Wolf did you hear the manager ask them to leave? Did you see any video of that or any witnesses stating that? One witness said she waited without a purchase for an hour the day before same place for her son.
AllstateIts Inyourhands They were asked to leave… It’s funny how these totally biased news agencies don’t interview the manager.… Then we might get the REAL story
People with manners leave when they are asked to. People with manners stop filming when asked to. "Is it because I am black?" No it is because you are being loud, making a scene, and not being respectful. Systemic racism.... sure.
Sideswipe 84 lol, seemed like a bunch of made up BS. Come on, 1 of the guys arvuments was that 1 of the blk guys were wearing sweat pants on to business meeting & that he didn't look professional. Really? Its so much fuckery in just this 1 guys argument alone. Any how, no we dont have all of the facts yet & yes theres always 2 sides to every story but these 2 men sides of the story is looking more legit by the day.
I'm a black woman, but I will be fair and say, this is outrageous. If they didn't buy anything, they were loitering. Bringing your beverage in a place that sells beverages is disrespectful and, usually, against the policy. The bathroom should be for customers only, but it's okay to ask to use the bathroom. If the worker says no, people should understand. These men seem pretty arrogant to think that the manager did something racist to them. Being an adult is partly about taking ownership for your own actions and respecting the property of others.
Positive Manifestations In their defense, it was white social justice warriors and a Jewish guy who made this into a racial issue. I think these two know it's their fault, at least I hope so. I wouldn't turn down the interview money either :)
I go to Starbucks all the time and not buy a drink. I have asked to use the restroom and been allowed without a purchase. I’m a white male. This society is far from where it needs to be.
Positive Manifestations your not a black woman stop lying. Your a fat white man from middle America who drives a truck and has a shitty job not health insurance but a healthy computer connection to make you fake black people accounts and go to all social sites and troll. 🤣
Stop blaming Starbucks. This isn’t their policy. It’s the actions of a specific manager. Could have happened at any public place. Starbucks actually did the right thing to correct the wrong after the fact.
Antitheist98 but they got two men arrested because they can’t train their employees to understand policy. The commissioner even said today that Starbucks policy was not know to them and what they did was wrong. They even apologized. And now Starbucks knows what they did was wrong by NOW having training classes on racial bias. Little to late.
Has anyone asked the manager how she was told to handle this situation. She was probably doing as she was told and SB is now back paddling. They lock the bathrooms for a reason. Even gas stations lock their toilets now. Also I don't believe she called the police 2 minutes after they arrived. In sure there are cameras to prove this.
It's common knowledge that you cant bring in your own drinks, use restrooms, and most likely be disrespectful when asked not to loiter if not paying. Restaurants and coffee shops are not your personal place to do business. All they had to do was buy something. I have done that before to use a restroom at a gas station. Big whoop.
deity kush Did you notice that...the entire interview feels so dead. Where’s the excitement? Where’s the fully alive elements? Where’s the extreme anger? WHERE ARE THE EMOTIONS
I'm a regular customer and I have worked there for over 2 years. I go to many different Starbucks locations all the time and don't order anything and I just do my homework with m water bottle. I've seen people conduct interviews and even had an internship interview at a Starbucks and both the interviewer and I didn't order anything. I have customers that come everyday just to do work or study and never are they asked to leave. Some people come in to just charge their phones for a while then leave, AND DON'T ORDER ANYTHING! Was really unnecessary, a shame.
SBUX needs to fully disclose their policy on lingering people in the store (for whatever reason) that don't purchase anything and there is no intent to purchase. SBUX has been silent on this. They threw the manager under the bus wit no due process. Did the math, figured it was best biz move to get rid of her. If SBUX official policy now condones people just hanging out w/o purchasing, so be it. But I believe they are trying to have it both ways. When the dust settles they will lean on managers to keep loitering to a minimum in addition to keeping the store spotless and able to make 10M different beverages.
I am not sure how you are reading into my comment and what point you think I am making. Its not my problem how you decide to interpret what I wrote. I wrote what I have and always do at Starbucks. Sit and just use my laptop.
Angoswede don’t engage with people like him. They’re just energy suckers. They try to pull you in and drag you down in nonsense arguments until you feel depleted. You don’t need that.
You are just the best!! I needed this so I can snap out of it and let this person find someone else or something else to suck energy from. Thank you sweetie!!! :D We need more people like you.
In Chicago, you have to buy something to use the restroom to get the code.. and anytime I have a meet up I just buy a coffee... but also I don’t think it was right for them to call the cops on them
To people who say "rules are rules", when did it become a rule that someone couldn't wait for someone else for a meeting? That's messed up. A meeting where they would probably get drinks when the other party arrived. So stupid.
Except records show that police were called two minutes after the men arrived. Most people aren't having the police called on them within 2 minutes of arriving at an establishment. Clearly the Starbucks employee was instantly uneasy with these guys, approached them, left, and called the cops. I don't think this would happen to similarly dressed and groomed white people, as these guys weren't dressed like two hobos off the street, they look like they could afford a few cups of Starbucks, when they're ready to order. But hey, people see things differently, so I respect your opinion, even though I disagree with it.
Caid Johnson Then again, reports also show they were there for ten minutes to half an hour. Reports are conflicting, I guess. You claim if they were well dressed and groomed, they would've been treated better. This is the same no matter the race. Whether it's Bill Nye or Habib Fanny, if they are dressed to impress then they will likely impress. I doubt race had anything to do with it. From what I've heard, that manager was fond of kicking people out for loitering and the only time people got offended was when a couple of entitles minorities decided to trespass instead. I respect your opinion, too, and I'm grateful that you're civil about it, as opposed to most people on the internet.
lucky4evr1 Yeah. I did look it up. Certain policies are left to each individual Starbucks establishment. This establishment happened to have a policy against loitering, as do many other businesses. By the by, who is "the racist?"
The only reason they were arrested is because they refused to leave. It was in Starbucks right to kick them out, even if it was scummy and how they did it was ignorant. I've been kicked off a property for "loitering" while waiting for friends to arrive. Just because it's embarrassing and lame doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. I'd say just stick it to them and have them lose a customer but it didn't look like they were losing a customer anyways. You also could've had this story posted without getting arrested as there's video but I guess getting arrested is a better lawsuit.
it was a joke because Archimedes was born in 287 BC but I guess you wouldn't understand that either, you must have a very sad life. Enjoy it because ignorance is bliss.
yes random person on YT you have the hard facts thank you for saving the day. you should go on some news stations as a "witness" honestly outstanding comment. AMAZING, next you should testify how Stormi Daniels was threatened by a trump goon, since you apparently see and hear everything all knowing being
I'm white and I've been told I couldn't use restroom w/o purchase either. When I bitched,I was told by w-manager that b-employee was just doing her job. Mgr. was right.. I sure didn't get offered a college education....but wait, I'm white in the US...where apologies are never accepted, you're cancelled anyway, and everyone has freedom of speech but you! Dayum!! The other day, I was wearing an orange t- shirt, after 5, on a Thursday, before the 15th of the month, with headsets on, and somebody screamed "You're racist!" out of their car window. Guess my phone was in the wrong hand 🤷🏻♀️!? This country is falling apart, and our enemies are at the gates...😢 Guess Will Durant might have it right....."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within."
@Johnny P. Actually, you can't. A police report is not a formal indictment, and even if it was, a prosecutor can always secure permission to amend the indictment. The fact the name is misspelled doesn't mean you can't actually be caught, it just means you're going to be charged with lying to police and put in prison.
Harry Carrey I appreciate the fact you can appreciate a joke 🤙🏻 Most of my Starbucks comments land me in pretty HOT WATER! .... I will see myself out 😂
^this. I'm a white woman who lives right across the street from a Starbucks, so I'm in there nearly every day. I have never, ever had a Starbucks employee come up to me at a table for anything other than occasionally offering free samples of a new food or drink they're introducing.
I used to work in fast food, it isn't hard to remember who actually ordered food, you morons. Most people aren't blind or stupid like you idiots apparently are. Plus if they don't have anything from the store in front of them it's pretty obvious they didn't order anything and are just loitering. Get over yourselves you paranoid weirdos.
Nevermind the ignorant idiots using the N word, she didn’t walk up to them, he walked to her and asked for a service reserved for paying customers, if they were white this would not be in the news, please stop perpetuating the idea that black people are victims.
Alright all you people on this tag outting yourselves as the biggest lames of all time using the n word like that come onnnn u ain't doin shit losers!!!! U wish that shit hurt boy bye!!!! God I hate white ppl sometime hahaha jk only the bad ones
Everyone is right I sit in Starbucks every damn week or so, and I’ve never been arrested I’ve been waiting for my friends and nothing has ever happened
xKoreotic it would have nothing to do with this story unless you sit at the same Starbucks with the same manager. Each individual manager can have their own policies. So your anecdotal experience in another part of the world is completely unrelated. The manager at your shop obviously has a different policy.
@Nana Akwesi Atta Mensah , you get THE FUCK OUT OF HERE! Business owners get sick of this entitlement shit. If that includes rudeness from you, then piss off.
Don't corner yourself in having to buy from DD, there are much better coffee shops out there. I really don't like their coffee or donuts. I go because the kids like it for some strange reason but not me.
dunkin donuts has too many cops if they think a cell phone is a gun they will think your coffee cup is a drum mag and your donut is c-4 and kill you which is why these men did not order any coffee that can be mistaken for a weapon.
my daughter & I went into a Starbucks last summer to wait for someone for a meeting. No one, bothered us nor asked us to leave. We waited 15 + minutes for the other party to arrive. Did I forget to mention, we didn't buy anything within that time & there were others there as well, on job interviews w/out a purchase. Others simply used the Wi-Fi for their laptops. This was racially motivated & I don't care what anyone says or thinks in contrast to my view. Good Day-😊
You are cheap! You also are a horrible parent to show your daughter you can use something or someone without consideration! Good Job! Are you on welfare?
Mika Savage you're arrogant, delusional, and love to pull the race card when in fact it seems more black people discriminate and assume more. But you don't care so oh well
A business meeting plans: Let's meet up in a Starbucks, don't pay for anything, occupy a full table, use the bathroom, use the free WIFI, talk about real estate, and make a big issue because you cannot pay a 5-dollar cafe latte pumpkin spice with rum from the Caribbean". I have similar situations. I stand up, go to the counter, buy a mocha frappuccino for 7 dollars, and continue doing business that eventually is going to make me 30, 40, or 100K.
@@stephenpaea177 the homeless should go to a shelter. There they can receive food, shower etc. Not a public meeting place. Many homeless have special needs. Many, not all have mental, physical issues. Some can become very violent if there needs are not met.
That may not be policy in Starbucks near YOU. Policies arise because wrongdoing, in some form or fashion, has taken place. These policies are also tailored the business location and customers of that location, that way the business doesn't just blanket the entire industry with a policy that doesn't fit certain clients. For instance, in the rougher neighbourhoods Starbucks may have a policy that you must order something in order to use the bathroom - this policy could arise for the following: 1) a addict shot up in the bathroom, resulting in an overdose, which is bad for business. 2) the idea is typically addicts spend all their money on drugs and very little on food, so the chances of them buying something like a coffee and then going in the bathroom is unlikely. However, on the other hand if Starbucks blanketed their entire industry with that policy it would be "rude" to customers in a suburban/low crime/low drug use neighbourhood, and they would lose customers because of it. This is the same with police departments; certain police departments have different policies about what they officers are allowed/supposed to do given what the local populace will tolerate. For instance, some officers ask you to step out of the car on a traffic stop in an attempt to build a connection with the individual. The department wants the individual to feel like the officer isn't "looking down on them". Some departments don't do this and require you to stay in the vehicle during a traffic stop.
When are we going to get an interview from the manager that had placed the call to the police ? There’s two sides to every story and it seems as if Starbucks doesn’t want us to know something because they’re afraid of an uproar from the black community.
Sky L Maybe in your neighborhood there isnt, but in mine its always been that u cant stay if u dont buy. In neighborhoods with a lot of homeless people they cant just allow people to hang around cus the stores get crowded with bums . They should have just bought a 1 dollar coffee and avoided all the bullshit smh
U all should watch the interview with the black police officer explaining the situation . The manager was doing her job. Ive been at work plently of times and seen my boss call the cops on people who wont buy and wont leave. Its actually common practice.
Sky L but that store at the time of this had a policy that said bathrooms for customers only. This same location refused a white cop in uniform access to the restroom during the elections. Individual store can make policies that better the overall profit of that location.
George Schirra Yes, it would have helped to hear from the manager who made the call to the police. Btw.....why didn't the ABC interviewer ask the guys if they told the manager that they were waiting for someone before they ordered?
Blake Morris yeah it is she did what she did bc they were black you’re choosing to be blind. she called the police on two people for walking in and sitting down it’s no policy that supports her. you can seriously believe they we the first people in her career to come in and sit down.if its not race tell me what it is
@@SLXMLORDS Its actually basic business. They bought their own beverages into a store that mostly sells just drinks, and then said they didn't want anything. You are not a paying customer then you don't have any expectation to use their facilities. Would you bring pizza to a Chinese restaurant and expect to be able to use their facilities to eat your meal? If they had waited for their friend to show up and he wanted coffee that would be different, but they just decided they wanted to wait inside taking up space for paying customers.
Yeah after watching this I think it just escalated to a point it shouldn’t, the guys should have just said “we are here for a meeting, we don’t drink coffee but our associate will probably buy something, do you mind if we wait here?” And the store owner should have just been chill, but I have a feeling Pride got involved on both sides, both sides probably got pissed off and there were probably snarky comments on both sides. If just one party had of humbled themselves this wouldn’t have happened.
If these guys were white this would be a non story.....I’ve been asked to leave places when I wasn’t a paying customer. This was definitely planned. We are all fuckin stupid right? I’m sure the guy filming this was in on it. Then he says He’s trying to process what’s going on? They probably asked him 10 times.
They went to a business, did not buy anything, expected to use the facility without buying anything, refused to leave the restaurant at which they were loitering, and were arrested. This isn't newsworthy. Rashon and Donte are wrong. This isn't discussion-worthy.
Dawn Called cops in 2 minutes? I go to StarBucks Cafe all the time and never buy anything, just using my laptop. Its literally a cafe to hangout. Ever been there?
How do you know the person they were meeting wasnt going to order a drink once he got there? People hang out at starbucks all the time for a long time without buying anything. Yes they should have left, but the fact remains that this girl targeted them. Im not an SJW leftist, but you have to admit this wasnt fair treatment. Calling the police on 2 guys for sitting at a table? at a coffee shop...
Dude, I go to Starbucks and just chill sometimes, my friends do that, college guys do that all the time and not once ever have I seen someone be kicked out like this.
Kirke182 do you honestly believe that the ceo cared about this or that he just doesn’t want any negative publicity at all and it’s easier on a company if you give in to the leftist zombie mob of social justice
I love the drama the news anchors are putting into this. The rate of speech, the pauses to sigh heavily. You’d swear these two were part of a national tragedy. So dumb.
Zombeastsqurl I know it's like it's a television new channel they need to draw views it's why I don't listen to mainstream Tv media it's all biased for attention
Green Hornet maybe they didn’t need to be arrested, but refusing to obey an officer will tend to do that. I work at a hotel, and have had to call the cops on several people refusing to do as I had asked usually because they were drunk, so at least they have somewhat an excuse to be obstinate. Cop comes and if they continue to refuse then, bye Felicia. This is the law of the land.
There was a white woman interviewed who said she’d been sitting for ages without ordering in Starbucks without anyone saying anything to her, a week prior to this. This is unconscionable!
Parents,school, military, employment and even church taught me: 1) Arrive at least 10 minutes early. 2) Wash hands before eating or shaking hands. 3) Wait to order/eat until the significant people are there as a sign of respect.
Pistolic why is it sad? Would you walk into a restaurant, take a piss, and then sit at a table without ordering anything? There are no facts that the manager is racist. I think the only poor behaviour was not warning the two guys that she will call the police if they didn't leave. This is an isolated incident. Do you believe that these two guys are the first two black people that have been in this Starbucks branch?
Troy what’s sad besides what you just stated was that the cops put hand cuffs on them and can’t just say can you step outside and talk with us for a second
What did they expect the police to do? The manager didn’t want them there. The police gave the several opportunities to leave. They chose to stand their ground and so police had to make the arrest since they were now criminally trespassing on private property.
Starbucks doesn't kick people out for sitting in their store to use the internet, you can also sit outside and such, it isn't loitering at a fucking starbucks
I have been at my local Starbucks for years. I have taken my laptop and stayed there about 5 to 6hrs without buying anything, and just chilling. This ignorence is from the manager not the company.
Maybe you got away with it. Should paying customers have to find other places to drink their coffee if you are squating? In the early 90's I was asked to order something or leave as I stuck around about an hour after my first order and their was limited seating. I ordered another coffee - problem solved.
That may simply be because the people who did buy coffee, but then couldn’t sit and drink it because you were taking up space, don’t complain because they don’t feel as entitled as you do.
They come inside, don’t pay for anything and then complain about “racist”CUSTOMER SERVICE. If they didn’t pay for anything they’re NOT customers. They didn’t even comply with store owner. These 2 men making black people look bad smh
I have frequented Starbucks for over 10 years. I have seen many people come in over those years, sit down, not make a purchase and have a meeting or just work on their computers. No one ever went to them and told them they needed to make a purchase. Usually the baristas are to busy, or just don’t pay attention to who’s doing what, or have those people bought anything. This story is a complete opposite of what I’ve ever witnessed at Starbucks. I’ll be interested to see how this turns out.
Karen Dobrowolski I have never seen that - if you go into a cafe of any sort, you make a damn purchase! The staff not noticing you slip in, sit at a table and start using their WiFi without buying anything does not make it okay. The toilet needed a key to access it so these two made themselves known to staff - they then admitted they weren’t going to buy anything and refused to leave when asked so the cops were called! There’s no story here, nothing to see. Move along!!!
Karen Dobrowolski they’ve had a history of people loitering there and never buying anything Your Starbucks has no problem like that because they know they buy stuff anyway
Karen Dobrowolski just because some people don’t get in trouble for breaking the rules doesn’t mean those rules are nullified it just means your Starbucks is more forgiving. I run a hotel and I can absolutely throw anyone out who refuses to leave or refuse to make a purchase at the bar. These are businesses not your personal lounge
THEY WERE WAITING ON SOMEONE !!!!!!! so you never waited for someone at a restaurant ,for example , before ordering ? so the moment you step in a restaurant or a coffee shop even though you're waiting on someone YOU HAVE TO ORDER and then if you dont you AUTOMATICALLY CALL THE POLICE ?
Mayaka Balila - they brought their own drinks... and they never claimed that they intended on purchasing something. Also, this is a Starbucks lol. It can take a while to prepare food, and is not like it’s dine in where everyone normally orders together and needs a waiter. They clearly didn’t plan on eating and they used the facility for free, which is against store policy. After asked to leave, they refused. She warned them she’d call the cops. Not a big deal
Mayaka Balila if It was me when the barista approached and after she offered the company services my reply would have been "Will be ordering shortly once our client arrives , he/she is running late", not "were waiting for somebody".Barista: " do you want water? No we have some in our bag". Every response they gave clearly showed they had no intention of patronizing the business. Just because some get away with abusing the store privileges doesn't make it right. They were attempting to use that space as there personal office headquarters. You can't spend $2 even though your supposedly conducting business? It doesn't sound right
"They were attempting to use that space as there personal office headquarters" who knows - that would conform to what starbucks website invites them to do - so probably.. how many white folks get cops called on them within two minutes of entering Starbucks for doing just that ??
Trespassing is trespassing .you can't bring your food/drink into a restaurant and take up paying customers space... And you can't refuse to obey police
Yeah sure, trespassing is trespassing, in a place full other races of people loitering, but the black person loitering is the only one charged and asked to leave, then have the cops called on. Can't refuse to obey the police, I'm sure glad Rosa Parks did
Dumb fucker star bucks is a franchise a public store so trespassing when its open is bullshit even the ceo of starbucks is appoligising so do you think its tresspassinng when the ceo is agaisnt what happened?
Do you have any idea how many broke college kids go to starbucks to get work done and never buy shit lol my friends would do that shit all the time and never got kicked out
You can't go in to a business that serves drinks and bring your own drinks. That is just rude. If you are going to use the space, BUY something. This isn't a public building, it's a BUSINESS. Not racist, just a business owner trying to stop loitering in their establishment. The cops didn't want to arrest them, they refused to leave!! These guys were looking for a law suit from the beginning.
Is it just me or does anyone else not think this is important? I mean they got kicked out of starbucks I work in a convenience store I kick people out all the time
stludachris _"I’d love if ABC would interview the people you’ve kicked out of the convenience store"_ What if you find out that it's a bunch of white people getting kicked out? What narrative would you spin then?
Two people being asked to leave, regardless of color, walking into a place, trying to use the washroom then sitting down without buying anything is a stretch to call racism. Focus on real problems like black people get shot in the back by cops. This is a nothing burger.
zeropointpower I do see your point on that. It is Starbucks policy that people can hang out without buying a thing. I personally don’t think this is a systemic problem with Starbucks. But the comments on this video are clearly racist. The majority of them. That thinking is exactly why black people are being shot.
I'm handicapped and need to sit down. I've been in Starbucks and found no place to sit because of all the people using the free Wi-Fi with their computers. The coffee is cold, and I have to leave because every seat and table is taken. Why I don't ever go to Starbucks.
I just want to say that when I was about 16 I used to hang out at a Second Cup with my friends. We were eventually told not to hang out there because we were not buying anything. SO we started hanging outside, and then the police started harassing us - and I think they had every right to. The owners of Second Cup were white and I am white and my friends were white. However, this Starbucks situation is different because these men are not 16 year old kids who repeatedly hang out at the place and the situation should have been treated differently. I wonder how old this starbucks employee is because she may have also been young and young people are often....hmmm The culture in AMerica needs to change to everyone treating everyone with respect.
It's good to know that we can never be kicked out of Starbucks now. I'm going to move in with my laptop and live there rent free but never buy anything.
sure you can get kicked out for actually committing a crime...these guys did not break one law...were not asked to leave. The manager called the cops on them within 2 minutes.
the law is called loitering!!! i have run 13 restaurants and have had to kick dozens of people out even had 6 arrested. funny though , i cant remember the skin color of a single one. huh? guess it's because i wasnt taught to be a racist by my parents. i dont see colors , only actions. wish some of your parents taught some of you the same instead of being victims .... it makes a person sad when they play by the rules and others think that THEY dont have to. that's what prisons are for...
They WERE treated equal. White people are refused the restroom if they aren't customers at Starbucks, too. White people have been trespassed out of businesses for not being customers as well. This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHINNG to do with "race" or "colour". Black people don't get "special privileges" just because they're Black.
Here in New Zealand, if you require to use loo 🚽 in any establishments e.g. Starbucks (paying or non-paying customers) business owners allows them to do so with no questions ask. Meanwhile, America is getting out of control with this racial profiling. I wish you guys are more open minded like us.
Should black people enter stores from the back and leave the same way like in 1940s? As the previous comment stated - had they been white it would be different. anyway the rules allows meeting..according to their website. So shut up if you don't know what your talking about you racist ass. This is why trump is in power.
Mr Benny So all of a sudden they sat for 2 mins and they were told to leave unless they bought something and the cops came after they refused to leave all in 2 mins??
2 MINS is not loitering and they were going to have a meeting and they weren't even told to leave by the employees yet the cops were called. No matter what ppl think there are racist ppl ok racism is a thing and 2 black guys sit there and then they get the cops called on them for no reason.
Lmao for 2 min. I can understand if it was 30-45 min. But 2 minutes ??? Lol you’re at a grocery store for 2 min and you still haven’t bought anything and you will be asked to leave lmao
RedCapitalist was that supposed to offend me ? That’s an childish as racist response. Wow grow a real fucking pair walk up to the biggest black dude you see and say something racist. You trying to bull a women. Like wow grow a fucking pair.
Najee Mixon,You are right they should turn their place into a homeless shelter. I'm sure they will have people rushing through the doors past the smell to buy $5 coffee.
MidlightStar, I love when racists assume to know the race of random people on TH-cam and think they are white just cause they don't like what they say. I find it odd they have fascination of wanting to see pictures of random people on TH-cam when they don't even have one themselves like some kind of pervert LOL. I bet you are not allowed to be withing 5 miles of a school.
I'm white and I was asked to leave Starbucks when I didn't buy anything, they said "you can't sit here if you're not going buy anything" this happened about 2yrs ago in Ireland. I was on my own and i taught that was fair and I left. I think stores have a right to have that policy. In this case they should of been allowed to wait for someone because that person could be buying something. Calling the police so soon I think was racial bias also she should of talked to them! But I don't think Starbucks should have to put up with non paying customers all the time after this, it is loitering
In Aberdeen Scotland union square mall I was sitting near two teenage girls that were asked to leave since they hadn’t bought anything and the store was quite busy as well. Think it’s fairly common.
Mag dude that in iraland in america people come to star buck and dont buy things all the time. Star bucks set yhem self as this. For people to come in and just sit and do busness
Even if they did kick you out, did the manager call the police, and did the police arrest you?! There’s no justifying this shit. People sit in Starbucks for hours. I know people that don’t even like coffee that go and sit in this shitty overpriced shop and never buy anything. They didn’t need to be arrested for sitting in a damn Starbucks is all I’m saying. Kicking them out is whatever. Every establishment does that.
-The person who called the cops- an unrelated manager higher up the chain is getting 25 million for having been fired over this. -They- the person who called the cops deserved to be fired based on the evidence I’ve witnessed, not sure about the random manager lady.
Michael Connell they sat in Starbucks for 2 min before manager called the cops. They were arrested for nothing. Knowing that the police can just put you in handcuffs no warning, no reason, is scary
Esi Imbeah - You're right. They were arrested for NOTHING. They bought nothing. The first time they were asked to leave, they did nothing. They're thinking they've probably hit the urban lottery. I hope a judge awards them just enough money for a cup of coffee.
If a manager asked you to leave, no matter your skin color, leave. If the cops ask you to leave, no matter your skin color, leave. It's simple. Buy something small even if it is stupid if you want to stay. This is not a racist issue, it's a follow the laws of being civil issue. Not saying its understandable what the manager did by calling the cops, but he was just doing his job for the most part. Let's not pretend most places like Starbucks or any other business just let's people sit around and take up space with no intention of buying something.
I been in Starbucks several times to study and they didn't ask me anything or assume anything.. when I wanted to order I went to the counter! The problem is businesses hiring prejudice people...
Starbucks are franchised businesses that have slightly different policies, such as who can use the bathroom. Unfortunately Philadelphia is a shithole city full of homeless people and criminals, who often use places like Starbucks to loiter. Just because you went to a Starbucks in Beverly Hills doesn't mean they will be as lenient as one in a ghetto city like Philly.
No, that is not the problem. I'm Latino has been prejudiced by blacks, not by white, for 20 years. Your problem is a lack of intelligence and business understanding. Establishments like Starbucks are not meet-up places, are businesses, every table has value; the table is for the customer, and the WIFI is for customers, not for visitors. So you expect customers coming to your business to occupy a table, use the bathroom, and your WIFI without making a dime.
They are so ignorant and that's why they work there. I"d of totally gotten your name correct. By the way, your name is beautiful, it was my grandmother's name.
They only serve burnt coffee anyways and they cover up the nasty taste with sugars and creams and crap it's not even a good coffee shop trust me I roast my own coffee at home mine blows there's a way and cost less than $0.50 a cup.
And for most of the time, I make my own coffee. But I DO enjoy a Starbucks once in a while and it's none of your fucking business if I do. Most people like McDonalds shitty coffee, I like Starbucks.
Fuck yeah, any company that sides with two obvious liars over their employee won't get my money. I want to find where these guys work and talk to their boss.
Do you think white guys don't get the cops called on them? I got the cops called on me in a Mcdonalds/mall parking lot waiting on a movie time and watching cars go through the drive thru.
Really sad that these 2 young man are supposed to have a business meeting, getting into real-estate, that that manager or whoever calls the cops on them, they could of been doing worse doing drugs, causing trouble etc,
@@kommisar. Tons of people go in there just for homework or other stuff, including my friends and me. We asked if we could stay there for this stuff and the staff agreed. They never had an issue with that as long as we don't disturb other customers.
@@kommisar. there's another interview on here of a guy who was there saying that he comes in all the time and they never asked him to buy anything. so.
@@hamthehamster1892 Individual locations are allowed to set their own policies when it comes to things like loitering and bathroom usage. That means different locations can tell you you have to buy something if you're in there, or they can just not care. Not a single person here or anywhere has yet to refute this. As much as these jerk-offs pretend they were victimized here, the truth is (and you can verify it through watching the video of their interaction with the police) is they were obnoxious and rude. Whether they were actually intending to buy something can't be determined with any certainty. However, what is certain is they sat there with a bottle of water in a place that makes its money selling drinks, didn't not buy anything and were obnoxious and rude to both the manager and the police. It is private property and they do not have the right to sit there. Service can be refused to anyone.
@@hamthehamster1892 Did he draw attention to himself as someone who wasn't paying, or did he just remain inconspicuous? It kind of forces their hand if you go up and ask to use the bathroom, are told it's for paying customers, then don't leave. You've made yourself obvious.
Different stores, different policies. A Starbucks in an urban setting is going to have stricter policies than a store in the Suburbs. Customer only bathroom is very common and loitering is too. Don't expose yourself loitering or cause a scene and anyone can loiter without a problem. Although common courtesy would be to support the business if you are going to use their private commodities.
When I lived a couple years ago on east coast in NJ I first ran into getting kicked out for loitering. I learned really quick not to try and us a restroom in Philly, NYC...any big city restaurant without buying something first. Never run into in Midwest outside of Chicago and St. Louis. And I am talking a variety of restaurants.
Ch Sung they where in there for 2 minutes. You like common courtesy so much, then you should know you don't buy anything until the last member of your party arrives.
I love how people say "I'm not racist" but still get offended when others talk about racists! 😂😂😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Guana.Guani.mahubi , that includes you.
Bunch of cry babies!
Sippy, laugh my ass off! And these "businessmen" were going to have "a business meeting" at the Buck but couldn't spend a cent on coffee?
@@valuecalc why would you spend money on something that you don't want ?
Jaiye Okesola , then why waste time there? The guys should shave and wear suits, anyway.
so they went to a starbucks to have a meeting, couldnt use the facilities because they didnt buy anything, brought their own food and beverage, which is a health code violation, then got arrested because they wouldnt leave private property. Why is this even in the news.
i think we all know why *this* particular story became "news".
Gamean Castro
Do you even know english? What does any of this have to do with race? Everything that happened with Starbucks had nothing to do with race. So, everyone getting all riled up over the situation are either stupid and can't do research to see how it's not race related or they are racist themselves.
It’s on the news because if white people done it, it wouldn’t be a problem. 2 minutes!! Did you not catch that???????????
Whites don't see the problem because many times that whites do the same thing, no one calls the police to have them arrested. Yal just want to be blind. Yal know how to complain and whine about blacks using racial slurs towards whites and no one bats an eye. Special privilege is unknown to the ones who benefits from it.
Stixx and Stonerz This doesn't happen to whites because we would be too embarrassed to do this. Black people like to be the center of attention speaking loudly enough so the whole block can hear and wearing their pants down around the knees almost.
I ve never seen why Americans are obsessed with starbucks
I know!! I never go there. Long ass lines and its very over priced.
Agreed.. never liked the taste of their coffee and over priced stuff..
I'd rather just stay at home and drink coffee... I've never even been to a starbucks
It is the same in most Western countries sadly!
U mean with black people
The police asked them repeatedly to leave and they didn't. What morons. Of course they got arrested. Do people not understand TRESPASSING?
Hell she didn’t give them a chance to order
I have met people at Starbucks and then when the other party arrived we bought drinks. Never had a problem. This was racially motivated. 12k dislikes on this video tells you all you need to know about America.
David Macera especially in good ole Philly.
David Macera sounded like they didn't say we're ok for now but give my colleagues who are running a bit late 5-10 mins please.
Now it's a race issue.
+David Macera You're just one person, moron. Starbucks has thousands of stores. I would be willing to bet this one has a history of loiterers who do not make a purchase. They were given several warnings to leave and refused to do so. The average white person wouldn't make a scene over something so stupid.
C Rizzy His point went right over your head ignorant dumbass.
David Macera I totally agree with you
The media should be ashamed of themselves
right iam so sick and tired of the victim card being played by these people....
ashamed of what MIke?
You’re missing the point. They did nothing wrong. They were just waiting for someone, which I’m sure plenty of others have done and no one bats an eye.
Richard Gray look in the mirror and you'll see the ploblem. This would never happen to entitled whites.
There’s Worse Content Out There Exactly. And some of the replies to this are disgusting. There’s no reason they should have been arrested for waiting. That’s the point and it doesn’t matter what race you are. How many people have done the same thing? Did they all get arrested? And since when can you not use a bathroom without purchasing something first?
The lawyer: 'You are asking them to know the intent of someone else...... Look at the video it is obvious, they don't have to answer. You know the intent.' Lawyering.
Loved it!!😊
Guess what- Rosa Parks actually paid for her bus ticket.
DeShawn 'Dawg' BNBG that's true also she was tired from working 18 hour shifts so she couldn't move and she got arrested for that wow
Ha! Mic drop!
Rose parks back of the bus was a staged pre planned event others did the same as her at the time but never got their credit like she did cuz her story would "sale" better PR for the cause.
Funny faux Obama dumb name, who do you think is destroying America?
lmao!!!
The Starbucks CEO literally said Starbucks was wrong and they had the right to use the restroom but people in these comments are arguing saying that it was the black men’s faults for not buying something... people will find any possible way to justify racism, even when they’re blatantly wrong.
Jojo Banks why do you ppl always have to assume ppl disagree because they’re racist ?? Shit like this happens in the white community what they gonna blame it on? Blue eye privilege , seriously get a grip it’s not that deep
what racism??? you're in a HISTORICALLY white nation that allows other races to live here. these two men came to the restaurant, using free wifi and they didn't buy anything,
Jojo Banks Starbucks had a right to sue if you actually look at the facts of the case and not what these 2 idiots said
Thats how whites operate. No matter what injustice happens to Black folks, they support it.
i manage a business, large nationwide well known chain. if someone loiters in or outside the store you offer them assistance. if they say no thank you im just going to be sitting here then you inform them that the store policy is that we dont allow loitering and you ask them politely to leave. most people are respectful and will leave. if they refuse you call the police to remove them. if this incident happened at my store the ceo of the company would probably cover his ass the same way this guy did. even though i would be following the companies policy clearly stated on signs outside the store. most of the people i have asked to leave my stores property have been white. if they were black that makes me a racist?
Who calls 911 after 2 mins? The manager could have asked them to leave or give a warning. He said the manager didn’t ask them to leave. So many people wait at Starbucks without purchasing.
Hmm the manager told them to leave they didn't..so cops were called. It's not that hard to grasp. After the cops told them to leave they still refused so their retarded asses were arrested.
Silver Wolf did you hear the manager ask them to leave? Did you see any video of that or any witnesses stating that? One witness said she waited without a purchase for an hour the day before same place for her son.
Travel The World This whole story is made up that's why
The manager didn't tell them to leave you idiot. You make up lies to fit your racist narratives
AllstateIts Inyourhands They were asked to leave… It’s funny how these totally biased news agencies don’t interview the manager.… Then we might get the REAL story
You could have simply bought a bottle of water (it’s a commercial establishment after all). Now Starbucks pays $25.6 million to the manager 😂😂😂
The hussy calls the cops TWO MINUTES after they arrived. Wow!
That manager is a fascist.
People with manners leave when they are asked to.
People with manners stop filming when asked to.
"Is it because I am black?"
No it is because you are being loud, making a scene, and not being respectful.
Systemic racism.... sure.
Phylush Do you know if they were being loud or making a scene? You can’t just assume that
Phylush cool story? 🙄
Phylush trolls
Soooo you didn't watch the video thanks for shareing your stereotypical views.
There is nothing to debate starbucks apologized and is retraining people.
Something tells me there's way more to this story than the media is letting on.
They were loitering, refused to buy anything and refused to leave. They should still be in jail until they buy a cup of coffee.
I like how their attorney chimes in when she asks the question everyone wants to hear them answer...
Sideswipe 84 lol, seemed like a bunch of made up BS. Come on, 1 of the guys arvuments was that 1 of the blk guys were wearing sweat pants on to business meeting & that he didn't look professional. Really? Its so much fuckery in just this 1 guys argument alone. Any how, no we dont have all of the facts yet & yes theres always 2 sides to every story but these 2 men sides of the story is looking more legit by the day.
Master Joe Kerr 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻
Master Joe Kerr
You’re full of shit, Sir.
Donut operator anyone?
Ta Ehtaw yeah
Ayyooo!
Just came from there, context is lacking everywhere
Preach it...
Hey!!
These guys were waiting for someone before they order. Thats pretty normal for a business meeting, so you can all drink together
No they weren't
@@nickc3856 lol why you mad, im glad they got fired and the CEO spoke out about the wrong doing and called in intolerable.
@@nickc3856 You spoke to them?
@@QuinczAgrawal you'll never be American, slumdog.
@@jameschauvet3140 LMFAO the one who got fired got more than $100k in donations, I think they're fine.
I'm a black woman, but I will be fair and say, this is outrageous. If they didn't buy anything, they were loitering. Bringing your beverage in a place that sells beverages is disrespectful and, usually, against the policy. The bathroom should be for customers only, but it's okay to ask to use the bathroom. If the worker says no, people should understand. These men seem pretty arrogant to think that the manager did something racist to them. Being an adult is partly about taking ownership for your own actions and respecting the property of others.
Positive Manifestations In their defense, it was white social justice warriors and a Jewish guy who made this into a racial issue. I think these two know it's their fault, at least I hope so. I wouldn't turn down the interview money either :)
I go to Starbucks all the time and not buy a drink. I have asked to use the restroom and been allowed without a purchase. I’m a white male. This society is far from where it needs to be.
But also they weren't just asked to leave, they were cuffed. That's the difference.
The white women said she had been there and hadnt purchased anything shes white they are black so the white manager wanted them gone..
Positive Manifestations your not a black woman stop lying. Your a fat white man from middle America who drives a truck and has a shitty job not health insurance but a healthy computer connection to make you fake black people accounts and go to all social sites and troll. 🤣
Stop blaming Starbucks. This isn’t their policy. It’s the actions of a specific manager. Could have happened at any public place. Starbucks actually did the right thing to correct the wrong after the fact.
Antitheist98 but they got two men arrested because they can’t train their employees to understand policy. The commissioner even said today that Starbucks policy was not know to them and what they did was wrong. They even apologized. And now Starbucks knows what they did was wrong by NOW having training classes on racial bias. Little to late.
agreed. if Starbucks handles this correctly then I will still support them... their actions will show how they feel about all of this!!
Employees are representing the company... Period!!! If someone sued McDonald's for hot coffee, they're not suing the employee... -
Has anyone asked the manager how she was told to handle this situation. She was probably doing as she was told and SB is now back paddling. They lock the bathrooms for a reason. Even gas stations lock their toilets now. Also I don't believe she called the police 2 minutes after they arrived. In sure there are cameras to prove this.
Antitheist98 ooo please they said the same about Hitler...they poeple brought him there🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
It's common knowledge that you cant bring in your own drinks, use restrooms, and most likely be disrespectful when asked not to loiter if not paying. Restaurants and coffee shops are not your personal place to do business. All they had to do was buy something. I have done that before to use a restroom at a gas station. Big whoop.
Love seeing Caucasian brother standing up for his Black brother rights.
Was he...
deity kush , it is too controversial, anyway.
deity kush Did you notice that...the entire interview feels so dead. Where’s the excitement? Where’s the fully alive elements? Where’s the extreme anger? WHERE ARE THE EMOTIONS
Hmmm 🤔 🧐 really?
???
@@stephenpaea177 in your head. The excitement is all in your head.
At least now we know why Starbucks won't open in Wakanda...
Bruda
Lmaaaao
Yeah that sucks but do you really know why??because it's not a real place
scrapefrenzy where's that?
Icepikoftime naaaahh
I'm a regular customer and I have worked there for over 2 years. I go to many different Starbucks locations all the time and don't order anything and I just do my homework with m water bottle. I've seen people conduct interviews and even had an internship interview at a Starbucks and both the interviewer and I didn't order anything. I have customers that come everyday just to do work or study and never are they asked to leave. Some people come in to just charge their phones for a while then leave, AND DON'T ORDER ANYTHING! Was really unnecessary, a shame.
Vanessa Quinones they made a scene and were asked to leave.
Phillip Gratton what scene? They didn't make a scene at all
Samuel Peeters watch the video.. he started recording and yelling to customers, then was asked to leave.
SBUX needs to fully disclose their policy on lingering people in the store (for whatever reason) that don't purchase anything and there is no intent to purchase. SBUX has been silent on this. They threw the manager under the bus wit no due process. Did the math, figured it was best biz move to get rid of her. If SBUX official policy now condones people just hanging out w/o purchasing, so be it. But I believe they are trying to have it both ways. When the dust settles they will lean on managers to keep loitering to a minimum in addition to keeping the store spotless and able to make 10M different beverages.
Just bc u can doesnt mean u should. Its like when people open bottles of shampoo/lotion or deodorants at walmart to smell them
I go to starbucks all the time and just sit and use my laptop. This is just crazy!
Angoswede th-cam.com/video/vqo9jUvRroY/w-d-xo.html yea...
Yeah and you're black, so it clearly has nothing to do with race? Am I missing something with the point that you're trying to make?
I am not sure how you are reading into my comment and what point you think I am making. Its not my problem how you decide to interpret what I wrote. I wrote what I have and always do at Starbucks. Sit and just use my laptop.
Angoswede don’t engage with people like him. They’re just energy suckers. They try to pull you in and drag you down in nonsense arguments until you feel depleted. You don’t need that.
You are just the best!! I needed this so I can snap out of it and let this person find someone else or something else to suck energy from. Thank you sweetie!!! :D We need more people like you.
In Chicago, you have to buy something to use the restroom to get the code.. and anytime I have a meet up I just buy a coffee... but also I don’t think it was right for them to call the cops on them
To people who say "rules are rules", when did it become a rule that someone couldn't wait for someone else for a meeting? That's messed up. A meeting where they would probably get drinks when the other party arrived.
So stupid.
It's a rule that you have to buy something in an establishment if you want to sit around. Otherwise, it's *loitering.*
Except records show that police were called two minutes after the men arrived. Most people aren't having the police called on them within 2 minutes of arriving at an establishment. Clearly the Starbucks employee was instantly uneasy with these guys, approached them, left, and called the cops.
I don't think this would happen to similarly dressed and groomed white people, as these guys weren't dressed like two hobos off the street, they look like they could afford a few cups of Starbucks, when they're ready to order.
But hey, people see things differently, so I respect your opinion, even though I disagree with it.
Caid Johnson
Then again, reports also show they were there for ten minutes to half an hour. Reports are conflicting, I guess.
You claim if they were well dressed and groomed, they would've been treated better. This is the same no matter the race. Whether it's Bill Nye or Habib Fanny, if they are dressed to impress then they will likely impress. I doubt race had anything to do with it. From what I've heard, that manager was fond of kicking people out for loitering and the only time people got offended was when a couple of entitles minorities decided to trespass instead.
I respect your opinion, too, and I'm grateful that you're civil about it, as opposed to most people on the internet.
Amazing Fan Yes.. But it's not a rule. Did u even look it up.. or u believed the racist. Of course you did..smh. Ignorance is not bliss!
lucky4evr1
Yeah. I did look it up. Certain policies are left to each individual Starbucks establishment. This establishment happened to have a policy against loitering, as do many other businesses.
By the by, who is "the racist?"
The only reason they were arrested is because they refused to leave. It was in Starbucks right to kick them out, even if it was scummy and how they did it was ignorant. I've been kicked off a property for "loitering" while waiting for friends to arrive. Just because it's embarrassing and lame doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. I'd say just stick it to them and have them lose a customer but it didn't look like they were losing a customer anyways. You also could've had this story posted without getting arrested as there's video but I guess getting arrested is a better lawsuit.
you are a moron, what are you 2305 years old now? must just be senile.
they were never asked to leave get your facts straight
it was a joke because Archimedes was born in 287 BC but I guess you wouldn't understand that either, you must have a very sad life. Enjoy it because ignorance is bliss.
yes random person on YT you have the hard facts thank you for saving the day. you should go on some news stations as a "witness" honestly outstanding comment. AMAZING, next you should testify how Stormi Daniels was threatened by a trump goon, since you apparently see and hear everything all knowing being
you'd bet your last dollar on that? also ignorance and not understanding jokes isn't relevant to knowledge, rather your social ineptitude.
If Starbucks ask me to leave, I leave. It is not a public area, it is privately own. Respect ownership!!!
I'm white and I've been told I couldn't use restroom w/o purchase either. When I bitched,I was told by w-manager that b-employee was just doing her job. Mgr. was right.. I sure didn't get offered a college education....but wait, I'm white in the US...where apologies are never accepted, you're cancelled anyway, and everyone has freedom of speech but you! Dayum!! The other day, I was wearing an orange t- shirt, after 5, on a Thursday, before the 15th of the month, with headsets on, and somebody screamed "You're racist!" out of their car window. Guess my phone was in the wrong hand 🤷🏻♀️!? This country is falling apart, and our enemies are at the gates...😢
Guess Will Durant might have it right....."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within."
I wonder if Starbucks mis spelled everyones names wrong on the police report
That is really funny.
@Johnny P. Actually, you can't. A police report is not a formal indictment, and even if it was, a prosecutor can always secure permission to amend the indictment. The fact the name is misspelled doesn't mean you can't actually be caught, it just means you're going to be charged with lying to police and put in prison.
Johnny P my buddy got out of a dui because the cop was off by 10 minutes in his report
Irish67 damn, i don’t condone drinking and driving, but if thats true, cheers to him 🍺
Harry Carrey I appreciate the fact you can appreciate a joke 🤙🏻 Most of my Starbucks comments land me in pretty HOT WATER! .... I will see myself out 😂
Yeah Starbucks employees don't walk up to the tables like waiters she had already made her mind up about wanting them to leave.
^this. I'm a white woman who lives right across the street from a Starbucks, so I'm in there nearly every day. I have never, ever had a Starbucks employee come up to me at a table for anything other than occasionally offering free samples of a new food or drink they're introducing.
I used to work in fast food, it isn't hard to remember who actually ordered food, you morons. Most people aren't blind or stupid like you idiots apparently are. Plus if they don't have anything from the store in front of them it's pretty obvious they didn't order anything and are just loitering. Get over yourselves you paranoid weirdos.
Nevermind the ignorant idiots using the N word, she didn’t walk up to them, he walked to her and asked for a service reserved for paying customers, if they were white this would not be in the news, please stop perpetuating the idea that black people are victims.
Yeah it seems like the problem here was the employee so she should get fired and we can all go back to using their free WiFi and good ass water lol!
Alright all you people on this tag outting yourselves as the biggest lames of all time using the n word like that come onnnn u ain't doin shit losers!!!! U wish that shit hurt boy bye!!!! God I hate white ppl sometime hahaha jk only the bad ones
Everyone is right I sit in Starbucks every damn week or so, and I’ve never been arrested I’ve been waiting for my friends and nothing has ever happened
JoJo Crunchy has nothing to do with this story.
RumikoOne it has everything to do with this story. The two guys did exactly that, but they were arrested.
xKoreotic it would have nothing to do with this story unless you sit at the same Starbucks with the same manager. Each individual manager can have their own policies. So your anecdotal experience in another part of the world is completely unrelated. The manager at your shop obviously has a different policy.
xKoreotic , no, they got entitled and rude.
@Nana Akwesi Atta Mensah , you get THE FUCK OUT OF HERE! Business owners get sick of this entitlement shit. If that includes rudeness from you, then piss off.
"Not" going to Starbucks anymore... Hello Dunkin Donuts!
Good Starbucks is a stupid liberal hippy party
Don't corner yourself in having to buy from DD, there are much better coffee shops out there. I really don't like their coffee or donuts. I go because the kids like it for some strange reason but not me.
dunkin donuts has too many cops if they think a cell phone is a gun they will think your coffee cup is a drum mag and your donut is c-4 and kill you which is why these men did not order any coffee that can be mistaken for a weapon.
@@springthunderboxer u right and they getoff
Good call, the CEO was a real asshole for not standing up for his employees
I've been to Starbucks in the south. I sat ,charged my phone, and went to sleep waiting on someone for an hour.
my daughter & I went into a Starbucks last summer to wait for someone for a meeting. No one, bothered us nor asked us to leave. We waited 15 + minutes for the other party to arrive. Did I forget to mention, we didn't buy anything within that time & there were others there as well, on job interviews w/out a purchase. Others simply used the Wi-Fi for their laptops. This was racially motivated & I don't care what anyone says or thinks in contrast to my view. Good Day-😊
You are cheap! You also are a horrible parent to show your daughter you can use something or someone without consideration! Good Job! Are you on welfare?
Mika Savage you're arrogant, delusional, and love to pull the race card when in fact it seems more black people discriminate and assume more. But you don't care so oh well
MultiValerie21 you most be white smh lol..
sonia quiles you must be black SMH lol. See how that sounds.
Your also not a black man like these brothers and me you are a woman you don't pose a threat
A business meeting plans: Let's meet up in a Starbucks, don't pay for anything, occupy a full table, use the bathroom, use the free WIFI, talk about real estate, and make a big issue because you cannot pay a 5-dollar cafe latte pumpkin spice with rum from the Caribbean". I have similar situations. I stand up, go to the counter, buy a mocha frappuccino for 7 dollars, and continue doing business that eventually is going to make me 30, 40, or 100K.
But that’s not their policy. Starbucks policy is to allow people to come in and meet. You don’t have to buy anything.
Felicia Moniq right! People go in there all the time to just read or do homework. Sad that stuff like this still exists.
What about homeless people trying to take a nap
@@stephenpaea177 the homeless should go to a shelter. There they can receive food, shower etc. Not a public meeting place. Many homeless have special needs. Many, not all have mental, physical issues. Some can become very violent if there needs are not met.
That may not be policy in Starbucks near YOU. Policies arise because wrongdoing, in some form or fashion, has taken place. These policies are also tailored the business location and customers of that location, that way the business doesn't just blanket the entire industry with a policy that doesn't fit certain clients. For instance, in the rougher neighbourhoods Starbucks may have a policy that you must order something in order to use the bathroom - this policy could arise for the following: 1) a addict shot up in the bathroom, resulting in an overdose, which is bad for business. 2) the idea is typically addicts spend all their money on drugs and very little on food, so the chances of them buying something like a coffee and then going in the bathroom is unlikely.
However, on the other hand if Starbucks blanketed their entire industry with that policy it would be "rude" to customers in a suburban/low crime/low drug use neighbourhood, and they would lose customers because of it.
This is the same with police departments; certain police departments have different policies about what they officers are allowed/supposed to do given what the local populace will tolerate. For instance, some officers ask you to step out of the car on a traffic stop in an attempt to build a connection with the individual. The department wants the individual to feel like the officer isn't "looking down on them". Some departments don't do this and require you to stay in the vehicle during a traffic stop.
The solution is simple : turn all the Starbucks into public libraries.
Rodolfo Frías there would be alot of whispering
That's actually genius
Hahaha 😂
Barnes and Noble already exists.
Rodolfo Frías apparently, whenthis is over, Starbucks will House the homeless and be unable to do anything about it. Bye bye Carmel frap
When are we going to get an interview from the manager that had placed the call to the police ? There’s two sides to every story and it seems as if Starbucks doesn’t want us to know something because they’re afraid of an uproar from the black community.
Sky L Exactly!
Sky L Maybe in your neighborhood there isnt, but in mine its always been that u cant stay if u dont buy. In neighborhoods with a lot of homeless people they cant just allow people to hang around cus the stores get crowded with bums . They should have just bought a 1 dollar coffee and avoided all the bullshit smh
U all should watch the interview with the black police officer explaining the situation . The manager was doing her job. Ive been at work plently of times and seen my boss call the cops on people who wont buy and wont leave. Its actually common practice.
Sky L but that store at the time of this had a policy that said bathrooms for customers only. This same location refused a white cop in uniform access to the restroom during the elections. Individual store can make policies that better the overall profit of that location.
George Schirra
Yes, it would have helped to hear from the manager who made the call to the police. Btw.....why didn't the ABC interviewer ask the guys if they told the manager that they were waiting for someone before they ordered?
*Racists:* FOLLOW THE RULES!
*Starbucks CEO:* This manager was wrong and broke company policy.
*Racists:* ... 😭
erzan nothing about this is racists
Blake Morris yeah it is she did what she did bc they were black you’re choosing to be blind. she called the police on two people for walking in and sitting down it’s no policy that supports her. you can seriously believe they we the first people in her career to come in and sit down.if its not race tell me what it is
spoken like a true Stazi bigot.
Original 6 Hockey sure it matters as race played a role. If it would have been whites it wouldn’t be newsworthy
@@SLXMLORDS Its actually basic business. They bought their own beverages into a store that mostly sells just drinks, and then said they didn't want anything. You are not a paying customer then you don't have any expectation to use their facilities. Would you bring pizza to a Chinese restaurant and expect to be able to use their facilities to eat your meal? If they had waited for their friend to show up and he wanted coffee that would be different, but they just decided they wanted to wait inside taking up space for paying customers.
Yeah after watching this I think it just escalated to a point it shouldn’t, the guys should have just said “we are here for a meeting, we don’t drink coffee but our associate will probably buy something, do you mind if we wait here?” And the store owner should have just been chill, but I have a feeling Pride got involved on both sides, both sides probably got pissed off and there were probably snarky comments on both sides. If just one party had of humbled themselves this wouldn’t have happened.
any way to make a dollar. They knew exactly what they were doing.
Sastré real estate.
Lmao, yeah I usually wait at buildings to get arrested and sue
Yeah waiting for a meeting
If these guys were white this would be a non story.....I’ve been asked to leave places when I wasn’t a paying customer. This was definitely planned. We are all fuckin stupid right? I’m sure the guy filming this was in on it. Then he says He’s trying to process what’s going on? They probably asked him 10 times.
Brendan Ryan sooo what if i dony feel like leaving a godamn place. Fuk starbucks fuck captilsm fuck everything usa is going under soon anyeay lol
They went to a business, did not buy anything, expected to use the facility without buying anything, refused to leave the restaurant at which they were loitering, and were arrested. This isn't newsworthy. Rashon and Donte are wrong. This isn't discussion-worthy.
Dawn Called cops in 2 minutes? I go to StarBucks Cafe all the time and never buy anything, just using my laptop. Its literally a cafe to hangout. Ever been there?
TheBeyondRelapse plz stop saying two minutes where is the proof of that? The only proof is that they refused to leave after being told to do so.
Dawn true
Loitering?! Sitting down is Loitering?
There's a thing called a clock it's amazing technoloy it literally counts time.
She won the lawsuit... These dudes are pathetic
It's called loitering.
How do you know the person they were meeting wasnt going to order a drink once he got there? People hang out at starbucks all the time for a long time without buying anything. Yes they should have left, but the fact remains that this girl targeted them. Im not an SJW leftist, but you have to admit this wasnt fair treatment. Calling the police on 2 guys for sitting at a table? at a coffee shop...
2 min in a establishment is loitering, do you know what loitering means, or are you just spewing your idiotic white supremacy jargon
No it is not. Starbucks does not have a loitering policy. The CEO even said the manager was wrong and that means that you're wrong.
Dude, I go to Starbucks and just chill sometimes, my friends do that, college guys do that all the time and not once ever have I seen someone be kicked out like this.
Kirke182 do you honestly believe that the ceo cared about this or that he just doesn’t want any negative publicity at all and it’s easier on a company if you give in to the leftist zombie mob of social justice
I love the drama the news anchors are putting into this. The rate of speech, the pauses to sigh heavily. You’d swear these two were part of a national tragedy. So dumb.
Zombeastsqurl I know it's like it's a television new channel they need to draw views it's why I don't listen to mainstream Tv media it's all biased for attention
Zombeastsqurl well sorry you tend to be a little dramatic when you are traumatized from an arrested that was for no reason
Green Hornet that arrest was avoidable!! Don't try that s#&t!! That is some stunt they pulled to try to get some d$@n money, slick bastards.
Calling the cops after two mins of being in a store? Reason has deserted you my friend
Green Hornet maybe they didn’t need to be arrested, but refusing to obey an officer will tend to do that. I work at a hotel, and have had to call the cops on several people refusing to do as I had asked usually because they were drunk, so at least they have somewhat an excuse to be obstinate. Cop comes and if they continue to refuse then, bye Felicia. This is the law of the land.
There was a white woman interviewed who said she’d been sitting for ages without ordering in Starbucks without anyone saying anything to her, a week prior to this. This is unconscionable!
I'm sure a black person did the same. Starbucks does not owe it to customers to let them sit there without buying something. It's a private business.
Exactly
Parents,school, military, employment and even church taught me:
1) Arrive at least 10 minutes early.
2) Wash hands before eating or shaking hands.
3) Wait to order/eat until the significant people are there as a sign of respect.
Idc if they black or white this is just sad.... and very embarrassing
Pistolic why is it sad? Would you walk into a restaurant, take a piss, and then sit at a table without ordering anything? There are no facts that the manager is racist. I think the only poor behaviour was not warning the two guys that she will call the police if they didn't leave. This is an isolated incident. Do you believe that these two guys are the first two black people that have been in this Starbucks branch?
Troy what’s sad besides what you just stated was that the cops put hand cuffs on them and can’t just say can you step outside and talk with us for a second
Pistolic Exactly!
Yes the cops should have handled it better. They didn't read them their rights and tell what they were being arrested for.
This wouldn’t happen to a white person
What did they expect the police to do? The manager didn’t want them there. The police gave the several opportunities to leave. They chose to stand their ground and so police had to make the arrest since they were now criminally trespassing on private property.
JDRCSL racist
paul ferland they do actually hahaha if you dont buy someyhing you can't be in the store, they don't apply it but they actually do have that policy
Exactly!!!!! Common sense!!!!!
So you can have "business meetings" in restuarants, bring your own drinks, and don't order anything? Ok. Bizarro world.
When you're black, company policy doesn't apply to you.
If they bought something, would it have been different? Alot of stores dont allow loitering.
but that has never been Starbucks
eph elle Really?
Starbucks doesn't kick people out for sitting in their store to use the internet, you can also sit outside and such, it isn't loitering at a fucking starbucks
Man I’ve seen ppl come in just to use the internet and leave. Starbucks has never been strict on only paying customers he to use the amenities
partially agree
I have been at my local Starbucks for years. I have taken my laptop and stayed there about 5 to 6hrs without buying anything, and just chilling. This ignorence is from the manager not the company.
Maybe you got away with it. Should paying customers have to find other places to drink their coffee if you are squating? In the early 90's I was asked to order something or leave as I stuck around about an hour after my first order and their was limited seating. I ordered another coffee - problem solved.
That may simply be because the people who did buy coffee, but then couldn’t sit and drink it because you were taking up space, don’t complain because they don’t feel as entitled as you do.
starbucks is not a non-profit.
1. Bathrooms are for paying customers. 2. If you are asked to leave and don’t, that’s trespassing. Pretty simple! EVERYONE IS NOT SPECIAL!
That poor baby at about 20secs in 😂😂 bless.
Wait so I can't chill in a Starbucks without buying anything?
Syed Danyel Hussain Nope. Can you imagine if everyone did that?
Moon Tide I know following the rules is soooooo racist right?
Moon Tide she didn’t get fired actually.
Moon Tide her?
Moon Tide don't make the black kids angry
They come inside, don’t pay for anything and then complain about “racist”CUSTOMER SERVICE. If they didn’t pay for anything they’re NOT customers. They didn’t even comply with store owner. These 2 men making black people look bad smh
Daniel Strack-Chacon I’m pretty sure the men shooting each other in the streets make black people look bad.
DinoGaming44 true, true. But this case is so stupid it gets on my nerves
Bitch you sound stupid. Just another dumbass that dismisses every racist story he hears about.
chachi said I’m Dominican soooo...
Daniel Strack-Chacon soooo your opinion doesn't matter.
It’s funny this same manager ! Sued and won over 25 million for wrongful termination.
I have frequented Starbucks for over 10 years. I have seen many people come in over those years, sit down, not make a purchase and have a meeting or just work on their computers. No one ever went to them and told them they needed to make a purchase. Usually the baristas are to busy, or just don’t pay attention to who’s doing what, or have those people bought anything. This story is a complete opposite of what I’ve ever witnessed at Starbucks. I’ll be interested to see how this turns out.
Karen Dobrowolski I have never seen that - if you go into a cafe of any sort, you make a damn purchase! The staff not noticing you slip in, sit at a table and start using their WiFi without buying anything does not make it okay. The toilet needed a key to access it so these two made themselves known to staff - they then admitted they weren’t going to buy anything and refused to leave when asked so the cops were called! There’s no story here, nothing to see. Move along!!!
Karen Dobrowolski they’ve had a history of people loitering there and never buying anything
Your Starbucks has no problem like that because they know they buy stuff anyway
Their CEO already apologized.
houchi69 cuz he has to he don’t wanna lose the black market lol
Karen Dobrowolski just because some people don’t get in trouble for breaking the rules doesn’t mean those rules are nullified it just means your Starbucks is more forgiving. I run a hotel and I can absolutely throw anyone out who refuses to leave or refuse to make a purchase at the bar. These are businesses not your personal lounge
They didn't have 2$ for coffee but they were there on a business meeting? What a joke, these 2 clowns are looking for a payday.
THEY WERE WAITING ON SOMEONE !!!!!!! so you never waited for someone at a restaurant ,for example , before ordering ? so the moment you step in a restaurant or a coffee shop even though you're waiting on someone YOU HAVE TO ORDER and then if you dont you AUTOMATICALLY CALL THE POLICE ?
Mayaka Balila - they brought their own drinks... and they never claimed that they intended on purchasing something. Also, this is a Starbucks lol. It can take a while to prepare food, and is not like it’s dine in where everyone normally orders together and needs a waiter. They clearly didn’t plan on eating and they used the facility for free, which is against store policy. After asked to leave, they refused. She warned them she’d call the cops. Not a big deal
exactly. only in America. 😂
Mayaka Balila if It was me when the barista approached and after she offered the company services my reply would have been "Will be ordering shortly once our client arrives , he/she is running late", not "were waiting for somebody".Barista: " do you want water? No we have some in our bag". Every response they gave clearly showed they had no intention of patronizing the business. Just because some get away with abusing the store privileges doesn't make it right. They were attempting to use that space as there personal office headquarters. You can't spend $2 even though your supposedly conducting business? It doesn't sound right
"They were attempting to use that space as there personal office headquarters"
who knows - that would conform to what starbucks website invites them to do - so probably..
how many white folks get cops called on them within two minutes of entering Starbucks for doing just that ??
Starbucks is a coffee house. Buy a coffee or wait outside for your meeting. It’s not complicated
This was a setup. I hope these young men are proud. Many innocent people lost their jobs over this.
Got to love a lawyer present to block questions.
Ben Jackbag Mank 😂🤣😅😄😆
James Murphy dude, shut the fuck up
Anon Omys uggh yea that's a lawyers job. If he was representing a white person it probably would not have struck u as odd
chachi said Bruh, you used a pig, poodle, and unicorn emoji. Anything you say from here on out ain't gonna mean shit lmao.
Ben Jackbag Mank actually I gotta tighten up a counter proposal for a sweet little restaurant I want. what do u have planned for the day?
Trespassing is trespassing .you can't bring your food/drink into a restaurant and take up paying customers space... And you can't refuse to obey police
people bring their own drinks and other items into a restaurant and don't get arrested....grow up Bowers...Bowers bows to the cop and book licks
Yeah sure, trespassing is trespassing, in a place full other races of people loitering, but the black person loitering is the only one charged and asked to leave, then have the cops called on. Can't refuse to obey the police, I'm sure glad Rosa Parks did
They didn't bring their own food you stupid
Dumb fucker star bucks is a franchise a public store so trespassing when its open is bullshit even the ceo of starbucks is appoligising so do you think its tresspassinng when the ceo is agaisnt what happened?
Do you have any idea how many broke college kids go to starbucks to get work done and never buy shit lol my friends would do that shit all the time and never got kicked out
This is a joke
You can't go in to a business that serves drinks and bring your own drinks. That is just rude. If you are going to use the space, BUY something. This isn't a public building, it's a BUSINESS. Not racist, just a business owner trying to stop loitering in their establishment. The cops didn't want to arrest them, they refused to leave!! These guys were looking for a law suit from the beginning.
Is it just me or does anyone else not think this is important? I mean they got kicked out of starbucks I work in a convenience store I kick people out all the time
Reachon not the same thing my guy
stludachris _"I’d love if ABC would interview the people you’ve kicked out of the convenience store"_
What if you find out that it's a bunch of white people getting kicked out? What narrative would you spin then?
For sitting?
Lmao its best u just shut ur ignorant ass up . Embarassing
Getting "kicked out" and getting arrested is two different things. Are you just playing dumb?
If you don’t think racism is alive and well, just read through these comments...We really haven’t come that far.
Two people being asked to leave, regardless of color, walking into a place, trying to use the washroom then sitting down without buying anything is a stretch to call racism. Focus on real problems like black people get shot in the back by cops. This is a nothing burger.
zeropointpower I do see your point on that. It is Starbucks policy that people can hang out without buying a thing. I personally don’t think this is a systemic problem with Starbucks. But the comments on this video are clearly racist. The majority of them. That thinking is exactly why black people are being shot.
I'm handicapped and need to sit down. I've been in Starbucks and found no place to sit because of all the people using the free Wi-Fi with their computers. The coffee is cold, and I have to leave because every seat and table is taken. Why I don't ever go to Starbucks.
Have you tried using a wheelchair, it’s like you have your own seat
Turn a negative into a positive..... use your payout from Starbucks and build your real estate business.... God does not make mistakes.
That is the funniest response Ive read in a while. God does NOT make mistakes? hahahaha Dont bring your fantasy god into this!
@Chris Nguyen ur a different type of ignorant
Shut your fucking racist mouth bitch
@Chris Nguyen come to the hood,we'll beat some of that high iq out of you.
@Chris Nguyen I honestly chuckled at this
I just want to say that when I was about 16 I used to hang out at a Second Cup with my friends. We were eventually told not to hang out there because we were not buying anything. SO we started hanging outside, and then the police started harassing us - and I think they had every right to. The owners of Second Cup were white and I am white and my friends were white. However, this Starbucks situation is different because these men are not 16 year old kids who repeatedly hang out at the place and the situation should have been treated differently. I wonder how old this starbucks employee is because she may have also been young and young people are often....hmmm The culture in AMerica needs to change to everyone treating everyone with respect.
It's good to know that we can never be kicked out of Starbucks now. I'm going to move in with my laptop and live there rent free but never buy anything.
sure you can get kicked out for actually committing a crime...these guys did not break one law...were not asked to leave. The manager called the cops on them within 2 minutes.
True.. Ive always avoided Starbucks bc of their prices but now.. My perspective has changed lol
the law is called loitering!!! i have run 13 restaurants and have had to kick dozens of people out even had 6 arrested. funny though , i cant remember the skin color of a single one. huh? guess it's because i wasnt taught to be a racist by my parents. i dont see colors , only actions. wish some of your parents taught some of you the same instead of being victims .... it makes a person sad when they play by the rules and others think that THEY dont have to. that's what prisons are for...
Christopher Michaud they were loitering, my dude. That is a crime. Excuse me, I am now going to take permanent residence at my local starbucks now.
WE ALL KNOW YOUR RACIST JOHN DEAUX.. AND DONT CARE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH SINCE 1619
Two intelligent men who just want all to be treated equal. It's time for a change.
They WERE treated equal. White people are refused the restroom if they aren't customers at Starbucks, too. White people have been trespassed out of businesses for not being customers as well. This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHINNG to do with "race" or "colour". Black people don't get "special privileges" just because they're Black.
Here in New Zealand, if you require to use
loo 🚽 in any establishments e.g. Starbucks (paying or non-paying customers) business owners allows them to do so with no questions ask. Meanwhile, America is getting out of control with this racial profiling. I wish you guys are more open minded like us.
I wanna see surveillance
T Stanton Probably doesn’t fit the narrative, so you won’t get to see it.
TwistedBarbie what was the narrative
You’ll see the same thing what the video shows and surveillance won’t have audio so that’s a complete waste of time.
TwistedBarbie why wouldn't Starbucks release it tho?
TwistedBarbie Love when racists defend racially charged situations
They were loitering... grow up! He can’t pick and choose what rules he picks and follows
lschut89 Had it been two white chicks they would’ve been offered free coffee ☕️
Should black people enter stores from the back and leave the same way like in 1940s? As the previous comment stated - had they been white it would be different. anyway the rules allows meeting..according to their website. So shut up if you don't know what your talking about you racist ass. This is why trump is in power.
Mr Benny So all of a sudden they sat for 2 mins and they were told to leave unless they bought something and the cops came after they refused to leave all in 2 mins??
2 MINS is not loitering and they were going to have a meeting and they weren't even told to leave by the employees yet the cops were called. No matter what ppl think there are racist ppl ok racism is a thing and 2 black guys sit there and then they get the cops called on them for no reason.
Lmao for 2 min. I can understand if it was 30-45 min. But 2 minutes ??? Lol you’re at a grocery store for 2 min and you still haven’t bought anything and you will be asked to leave lmao
These guys have believed they are victims. Just respect any private business. Just go by the rules. Buy something, don’t be dumb and disrespectful.
They were arrested by the SS soldiers of the American Gestapo.
This is ridiculous..Starbucks is supposed to be a relaxed environment. Can’t support a business like this.
RedCapitalist was that supposed to offend me ? That’s an childish as racist response. Wow grow a real fucking pair walk up to the biggest black dude you see and say something racist. You trying to bull a women. Like wow grow a fucking pair.
Najee Mixon,You are right they should turn their place into a homeless shelter. I'm sure they will have people rushing through the doors past the smell to buy $5 coffee.
@RedCapitalist wtf man you going low af. stop being a dumbass. you're only insulting yourself. damn son go to school
Najee Mixon A relaxed environment for paying costumers
MidlightStar, I love when racists assume to know the race of random people on TH-cam and think they are white just cause they don't like what they say. I find it odd they have fascination of wanting to see pictures of random people on TH-cam when they don't even have one themselves like some kind of pervert LOL. I bet you are not allowed to be withing 5 miles of a school.
I'm white and I was asked to leave Starbucks when I didn't buy anything, they said "you can't sit here if you're not going buy anything" this happened about 2yrs ago in Ireland. I was on my own and i taught that was fair and I left. I think stores have a right to have that policy. In this case they should of been allowed to wait for someone because that person could be buying something. Calling the police so soon I think was racial bias also she should of talked to them! But I don't think Starbucks should have to put up with non paying customers all the time after this, it is loitering
Mag. Lies.
In Aberdeen Scotland union square mall I was sitting near two teenage girls that were asked to leave since they hadn’t bought anything and the store was quite busy as well. Think it’s fairly common.
Mag dude that in iraland in america people come to star buck and dont buy things all the time. Star bucks set yhem self as this. For people to come in and just sit and do busness
Even if they did kick you out, did the manager call the police, and did the police arrest you?! There’s no justifying this shit. People sit in Starbucks for hours. I know people that don’t even like coffee that go and sit in this shitty overpriced shop and never buy anything. They didn’t need to be arrested for sitting in a damn Starbucks is all I’m saying. Kicking them out is whatever. Every establishment does that.
Erich Marschall something is wrong with you. It's not even Starbucks policy that you have to buy something in order to stay.
God bless these 2 gentlemen you stayed calm through that awful ordeal stay proud of our complexion.
Yeah right............I know they smelled money once this happened. They are the right skin color to do so..............pathetic
Y’all are fucking dumbasses
Bullshit, these scam artists planned this bullshit in order to get something for free and they did, college tuition
Blake Morris No man, Just you. Y’all speaks volumes as to whom is the dumbass
Dean Mckell... words of a racist 🤦🏽♀️
be gone child of Satan be gone
-The person who called the cops- an unrelated manager higher up the chain is getting 25 million for having been fired over this. -They- the person who called the cops deserved to be fired based on the evidence I’ve witnessed, not sure about the random manager lady.
I have never been to a Starbucks ever and never will.
Diane Rioux Same goes for me!! They won't be receiving my coins after this incident...
you've never been to a Starbucks...why even open your mouth
anyseattleteamfangamer I am in Canada and I am a Tim Horton's fan. They have awesome iced caps.
Diane Rioux man I wish we had more tim Horton locations in the US but still I'll keep going to Starbucks...
You’ll be missed
Young men to be traumatized by this? This world is going to shit smh
Katie R now I'm a racist..... You cray
Michael Connell I’m motivated to walk into a Starbucks & do fuck all.
Michael Connell they sat in Starbucks for 2 min before manager called the cops. They were arrested for nothing. Knowing that the police can just put you in handcuffs no warning, no reason, is scary
Esi Imbeah - You're right. They were arrested for NOTHING. They bought nothing. The first time they were asked to leave, they did nothing. They're thinking they've probably hit the urban lottery. I hope a judge awards them just enough money for a cup of coffee.
PTSD for visiting a coffee establishment. Smh
If a manager asked you to leave, no matter your skin color, leave. If the cops ask you to leave, no matter your skin color, leave. It's simple. Buy something small even if it is stupid if you want to stay. This is not a racist issue, it's a follow the laws of being civil issue. Not saying its understandable what the manager did by calling the cops, but he was just doing his job for the most part. Let's not pretend most places like Starbucks or any other business just let's people sit around and take up space with no intention of buying something.
Bitch please if you don’t think that phone call was racial your the problem.
I been in Starbucks several times to study and they didn't ask me anything or assume anything.. when I wanted to order I went to the counter! The problem is businesses hiring prejudice people...
Starbucks are franchised businesses that have slightly different policies, such as who can use the bathroom. Unfortunately Philadelphia is a shithole city full of homeless people and criminals, who often use places like Starbucks to loiter. Just because you went to a Starbucks in Beverly Hills doesn't mean they will be as lenient as one in a ghetto city like Philly.
No, that is not the problem. I'm Latino has been prejudiced by blacks, not by white, for 20 years. Your problem is a lack of intelligence and business understanding. Establishments like Starbucks are not meet-up places, are businesses, every table has value; the table is for the customer, and the WIFI is for customers, not for visitors. So you expect customers coming to your business to occupy a table, use the bathroom, and your WIFI without making a dime.
These guys are about to become millionares because the police chief apologized for their arrest. Bank Starbucks. Bank the jurisdiction. Unbelievable.
What apology? Proof , cites, evidences?
They were LOITERING and refused to leave when asked.
Danny lol 😂 they weren't asked
the dankest did you watch the video?
they were never asked to leave until THE POLICE SHOWED UP !
Makaya Balila. They were. Multiple times in fact
But the thing is, everyone does that!!! Everyone goes just for the free WiFi, but of course, those are white people
So you can't afford a coffee to hold your table but you are going to participate in a real estate deal SURE 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Black privilege is real. These two were loitering and should've been arrested, end of story...
Starbucks also spells my name wrong. My name is uvuvwevwevwe onyetenyevwe ugwemubwem ossas.
They are so ignorant and that's why they work there. I"d of totally gotten your name correct. By the way, your name is beautiful, it was my grandmother's name.
Estevan Aurzada , just be "Uvu."
Lmao you put your whole edo name ahn ahn
I'll make my own coffee, thanks
And I'm sure yours will be CHEAPER and tastier. Starbucks coffee is NOT good. I will go to 7 Eleven or McDonalds any day and pay $1.50! LOL
They only serve burnt coffee anyways and they cover up the nasty taste with sugars and creams and crap it's not even a good coffee shop trust me I roast my own coffee at home mine blows there's a way and cost less than $0.50 a cup.
Alex Bey also save yourself 8 dollars 💵
And for most of the time, I make my own coffee. But I DO enjoy a Starbucks once in a while and it's none of your fucking business if I do. Most people like McDonalds shitty coffee, I like Starbucks.
Fuck yeah, any company that sides with two obvious liars over their employee won't get my money. I want to find where these guys work and talk to their boss.
Can my black ass even sit on a park bench without having the cops being called on me??
trago1337
Not in this shithole country.
Do you think white guys don't get the cops called on them? I got the cops called on me in a Mcdonalds/mall parking lot waiting on a movie time and watching cars go through the drive thru.
trago1337 if you don’t break the law, sure
trago1337 No.
Yeah.. a public park.
Did anybody notice the white police brutality ? no because the two individuals complied with police requests
lol
durk io hes is absolutely right though. You can’t deny truth
So they should be greatful for not being killed sitting at a tablr in a coffee shop?
1000s of blacks have complied and still hot killed by police, many didn't get a chance to comply. Your logic is bullshit!!!.
Still police harassment though.
Really sad that these 2 young man are supposed to have a business meeting, getting into real-estate, that that manager or whoever calls the cops on them, they could of been doing worse doing drugs, causing trouble etc,
They also could have bought something like the rest of the customers.
@@kommisar. Tons of people go in there just for homework or other stuff, including my friends and me. We asked if we could stay there for this stuff and the staff agreed. They never had an issue with that as long as we don't disturb other customers.
@@kommisar. there's another interview on here of a guy who was there saying that he comes in all the time and they never asked him to buy anything. so.
@@hamthehamster1892 Individual locations are allowed to set their own policies when it comes to things like loitering and bathroom usage. That means different locations can tell you you have to buy something if you're in there, or they can just not care. Not a single person here or anywhere has yet to refute this. As much as these jerk-offs pretend they were victimized here, the truth is (and you can verify it through watching the video of their interaction with the police) is they were obnoxious and rude. Whether they were actually intending to buy something can't be determined with any certainty. However, what is certain is they sat there with a bottle of water in a place that makes its money selling drinks, didn't not buy anything and were obnoxious and rude to both the manager and the police. It is private property and they do not have the right to sit there. Service can be refused to anyone.
@@hamthehamster1892 Did he draw attention to himself as someone who wasn't paying, or did he just remain inconspicuous? It kind of forces their hand if you go up and ask to use the bathroom, are told it's for paying customers, then don't leave. You've made yourself obvious.
Do a better job. They were asked to leave and they didn’t. You should’ve pressed them on that.
edgar dacto racist
Lmfao. As a hispanic, I cannot be by definition
Wtf... last time i went to Starbucks I used bathroom for free n I just came to use the WiFi...
Doernbecher yup. I do it quite a bit. Never been hassled.
Different stores, different policies. A Starbucks in an urban setting is going to have stricter policies than a store in the Suburbs. Customer only bathroom is very common and loitering is too. Don't expose yourself loitering or cause a scene and anyone can loiter without a problem. Although common courtesy would be to support the business if you are going to use their private commodities.
When I lived a couple years ago on east coast in NJ I first ran into getting kicked out for loitering. I learned really quick not to try and us a restroom in Philly, NYC...any big city restaurant without buying something first. Never run into in Midwest outside of Chicago and St. Louis. And I am talking a variety of restaurants.
Ch Sung they where in there for 2 minutes. You like common courtesy so much, then you should know you don't buy anything until the last member of your party arrives.
Ch Sung 2 minutes is not loitering. He asked to use the restroom, he didn’t demand it. How is that exposing yourself loitering?
Never relax.
People are more quick to call the cops on blacks real quick.
I'm white and have had Starbucks ask me to leave and I didn't get to cry about it on national television.
Stephen's Head Trip 🤥 where the police called & where u arrested?
Did they call 911? Doubt it.
No because when he was asked to leave, he left. ;)
Stephen's Head Trip heres that attention u wanted
Dan Gal except they weren’t asked to leave. She just immediately called the police so shut the fuck up