Thank you so much for this beautiful conversation. I enjoyed the topics covered and the settings. This event and all you do at LSE & thank you Mr. Stiglitz for sharing you’re interesting travels time and thought provoking dissemination of tough question effecting humanity and offering common sense remedies to old problems that with simplistic transparency explanations to the miseducated. Sometimes leaves many unable to articulate to ones inner self the proper grasp of the science effecting that body. By putting it into the right narrative with honest dialogue, now one can focus and see that it’s the misconception of the issue or topic not truly understood by the individual but through correction of concepts, realizing it’s the interpretation that is wrong. Just with that little meet the people were they our concept and talk to them like they talk will ease ones insecurities, hopefully then God willing, even the most average people all over the world can now make better decision's pertaining to ones life now having a true understanding of the language double speak coded jargon that has for to long exploited communities and the downtrodden but simply not even realizing ones condition is being discussed all around the individuals while never even having enough clarity with the communication to have a good inner standing with comprehension of topics issue or problems effecting ones life and family's life on top of all the other injures suffered from being mined worked without services rendered and given a fraud identity. Much success with the book and take care. God Bless. Pourtal Reekin Joe,
Freedom without constraints is counterproductive! I will give another example to illustrate what Pr. Joseph Stiglitz wants to explain very well here: imagine that a conductor of his automobile on a perfect road in the sense that no friction and thereby no force of resistance, the surface's road will apply to his automobile weels . The result will be that these weels will patina and the automobile will not be able to go nowhere...and stick in its initial position Best regards M.Ali From Marrakech
Wonderful to bring these critical thinkers and their ideas to a wider public audience. Lets work together to develop the more open, critical university.
I find it quite mad that the host, Professor Mary Kaldor, is the daughter of another amazing economist that gave us the Kaldor-Hicks principle. Small world.
Well syndicate project..🎉for your book ..a little I listening ..I try to understand what's different from other book ..you said ..do what *you* likes to do ..and then we are free..les self fishing....thx
One of the best universities in the world, and both here and their audio podcasts cannot figure out how to manage sound, in this case, either the viewer couldn't hear the questions or Stiglitz couldn't hear them. It's baffling how such an institution can be so poor at something rather simple.
I was hoping that Professor Stiglitz would have addressed Fractional Reserve Banking, which to my mind, is a major reason capitalism has gone bad. On top of that the Feds take it upon themselves, a few wise people there, to FIX the PRICE of debt. My humble suggestion, go to full reserve banking and stop fixing prices.
Think our emotions come in the way of determining morality in the definition of a good society. We also should not assume things about what other eminent economists might have meant in what they had written or said. In this regard, Friedman did say that businesses should try to maximize profits for shareholders, but don’t think he meant profit maximization is to be achieved at the expense of ethics. He always maintained that ethics is the responsibility of the individual(s) in question. Now on to your examples. First and foremost, taking away 100 or 200 billion USD from Bezos is not going to motivate many who need to be more responsible for their lives. Why should they try to earn more if someone’s going to take away a big chunk of it. Secondly, redistributing the 100 billion USD across people with low incomes is just not going to make them better off either. Temporarily, we may alleviate some of their challenges. Plenty of examples demonstrate that people being helped financially still end up in completely different economic circumstances after some years. Not sure we can go into someones’s mind and change it for that person. Long and short, Milton Friedman was by far and away a person full of morals and very unassuming. It’s presumptuous of Professor Stiglitz to make distinctions in capitalism such as progressive (which he claims is his way) and unfettered (which he claims is Friedman’s). Nonsense at best. There is only one kind. It is that which arises when the individual in the society is given importance and, more importantly, the individual is allowed a sense of freedom that allows the individual to not only think and act freely, but do so with a great deal of responsibility and compassion. Friedman has made a particular reference to the 2008 banking collapse, calling it the work of Clinton who in the name of helping out the poorer sections of American society looked the other way when bankers were selling mortgages to clients who had no means of paying back the banks at all. Friedman disapproved of what Clinton did. It was by no means according to Friedman an act of compassion or anything to do with the freedom of the individual, when bankers completely deprived clients of the opportunity to think freely and realize the amount of liability on themselves these mortgages would bring. The bankers achieved this by robbing off clients with all sorts of half-baked convoluted logic presented with products such as interest-free or decreasing-principal mortgages. I cannot imagine a Nobel Laureate such as Professor Stiglitz would go to such lengths as to create in his audience a sense of remorse or guilt by painting the corporate governance laws of the 1970’s (that ensured businesses were obligated to maximize value for their shareholders) as evil. How different is the situation of shareholders providing corporates with shareholder money any different from banks providing loans to regular people like Professor Stiglitz or any of us? Would Professor Stiglitz in the same vein say it is not correct for people who have taken loans to focus on paying back the banks first as best as possible before spending away on other things they liked? What kind of convoluted logic and a sense or responsibility is Professor Stiglitz preaching? You cannot have a diff sense of morality or responsibility just because a plan-borrowing individual is replaced with a shareholder money borrowing corporate entity. It is the responsibility of either to ensure that the entities (banks or shareholders) from whom they borrowed money are given full attention first.
Restrictions because of pollution well lead to unemployment and it will decrease efficiency. Its the entrepreneurs who came up with new way to produce goods sustainable goods and the regulations that you argue will destroy entrepreneurship.
problems with the leftists: 1. charity (altruism) and voluntary action help to solve all problems 2. people trust each other and do not kill each other without any safeguards and laws 3. human nature is not largely selfish; there is no invisible hand this is disproven by the current anarchic world order without government: - foreign aid is much less than 1% of a country's gdp, - people just sit on the fence and watch crimes in palestine, rwanda, myanmar. - you need a draft to get soldiers to fight in a war. - rich people pay very little of their wealth and incomes in charity; philantropy doesn't work. - merciless debt collection by IMF in other words, you need cameras, police, laws, taxation, judicial systems to coerce individuals to behave nicely and justly and make a society work.
Thank you so much for this beautiful conversation. I enjoyed the topics covered and the settings. This event and all you do at LSE & thank you Mr. Stiglitz for sharing you’re interesting travels time and thought provoking dissemination of tough question effecting humanity and offering common sense remedies to old problems that with simplistic transparency explanations to the miseducated. Sometimes leaves many unable to articulate to ones inner self the proper grasp of the science effecting that body. By putting it into the right narrative with honest dialogue, now one can focus and see that it’s the misconception of the issue or topic not truly understood by the individual but through correction of concepts, realizing it’s the interpretation that is wrong.
Just with that little meet the people were they our concept and talk to them like they talk will ease ones insecurities, hopefully then God willing, even the most average people all over the world can now make better decision's pertaining to ones life now having a true understanding of the language double speak coded jargon that has for to long exploited communities and the downtrodden but simply not even realizing ones condition is being discussed all around the individuals while never even having enough clarity with the communication to have a good inner standing with comprehension of topics issue or problems effecting ones life and family's life on top of all the other injures suffered from being mined worked without services rendered and given a fraud identity. Much success with the book and take care. God Bless.
Pourtal Reekin Joe,
Thank goodness for the clear-thinking, visionary Joseph Stiiglitz
Freedom without constraints is counterproductive! I will give another example to illustrate what Pr. Joseph Stiglitz wants to explain very well here: imagine that a conductor of his automobile on a perfect road in the sense that no friction and thereby no force of resistance, the surface's road will apply to his automobile weels . The result will be that these weels will patina and the automobile will not be able to go nowhere...and stick in its initial position
Best regards
M.Ali
From Marrakech
Wonderful to bring these critical thinkers and their ideas to a wider public audience. Lets work together to develop the more open, critical university.
Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for uploading this 😊
Detective of Money Politics is following this very informative content cheers from VK3GFS and 73s from Frank
I find it quite mad that the host, Professor Mary Kaldor, is the daughter of another amazing economist that gave us the Kaldor-Hicks principle. Small world.
Well syndicate project..🎉for your book ..a little I listening ..I try to understand what's different from other book ..you said ..do what *you* likes to do ..and then we are free..les self fishing....thx
30:27 So LSE? Is it good or bad?😅
One of the best universities in the world, and both here and their audio podcasts cannot figure out how to manage sound, in this case, either the viewer couldn't hear the questions or Stiglitz couldn't hear them. It's baffling how such an institution can be so poor at something rather simple.
At the beginning, why the camera focus on the Lady during hours ? It is unconfortable for her and unuseful for us.
I was hoping that Professor Stiglitz would have addressed Fractional Reserve Banking, which to my mind, is a major reason capitalism has gone bad. On top of that the Feds take it upon themselves, a few wise people there, to FIX the PRICE of debt. My humble suggestion, go to full reserve banking and stop fixing prices.
48:07 Looks like even Joe Stiglitz doesn't enjoy that kind of wokist jokes
Think our emotions come in the way of determining morality in the definition of a good society.
We also should not assume things about what other eminent economists might have meant in what they had written or said. In this regard, Friedman did say that businesses should try to maximize profits for shareholders, but don’t think he meant profit maximization is to be achieved at the expense of ethics. He always maintained that ethics is the responsibility of the individual(s) in question.
Now on to your examples. First and foremost, taking away 100 or 200 billion USD from Bezos is not going to motivate many who need to be more responsible for their lives. Why should they try to earn more if someone’s going to take away a big chunk of it.
Secondly, redistributing the 100 billion USD across people with low incomes is just not going to make them better off either. Temporarily, we may alleviate some of their challenges. Plenty of examples demonstrate that people being helped financially still end up in completely different economic circumstances after some years. Not sure we can go into someones’s mind and change it for that person.
Long and short, Milton Friedman was by far and away a person full of morals and very unassuming.
It’s presumptuous of Professor Stiglitz to make distinctions in capitalism such as progressive (which he claims is his way) and unfettered (which he claims is Friedman’s). Nonsense at best. There is only one kind. It is that which arises when the individual in the society is given importance and, more importantly, the individual is allowed a sense of freedom that allows the individual to not only think and act freely, but do so with a great deal of responsibility and compassion. Friedman has made a particular reference to the 2008 banking collapse, calling it the work of Clinton who in the name of helping out the poorer sections of American society looked the other way when bankers were selling mortgages to clients who had no means of paying back the banks at all. Friedman disapproved of what Clinton did. It was by no means according to Friedman an act of compassion or anything to do with the freedom of the individual, when bankers completely deprived clients of the opportunity to think freely and realize the amount of liability on themselves these mortgages would bring. The bankers achieved this by robbing off clients with all sorts of half-baked convoluted logic presented with products such as interest-free or decreasing-principal mortgages.
I cannot imagine a Nobel Laureate such as Professor Stiglitz would go to such lengths as to create in his audience a sense of remorse or guilt by painting the corporate governance laws of the 1970’s (that ensured businesses were obligated to maximize value for their shareholders) as evil. How different is the situation of shareholders providing corporates with shareholder money any different from banks providing loans to regular people like Professor Stiglitz or any of us? Would Professor Stiglitz in the same vein say it is not correct for people who have taken loans to focus on paying back the banks first as best as possible before spending away on other things they liked? What kind of convoluted logic and a sense or responsibility is Professor Stiglitz preaching? You cannot have a diff sense of morality or responsibility just because a plan-borrowing individual is replaced with a shareholder money borrowing corporate entity. It is the responsibility of either to ensure that the entities (banks or shareholders) from whom they borrowed money are given full attention first.
Economics science exists for the good of society but not necessarily give freedom but the hard reality of existentialism.
Restrictions because of pollution well lead to unemployment and it will decrease efficiency. Its the entrepreneurs who came up with new way to produce goods sustainable goods and the regulations that you argue will destroy entrepreneurship.
problems with the leftists:
1. charity (altruism) and voluntary action help to solve all problems
2. people trust each other and do not kill each other without any safeguards and laws
3. human nature is not largely selfish; there is no invisible hand
this is disproven by the current anarchic world order without government:
- foreign aid is much less than 1% of a country's gdp,
- people just sit on the fence and watch crimes in palestine, rwanda, myanmar.
- you need a draft to get soldiers to fight in a war.
- rich people pay very little of their wealth and incomes in charity; philantropy doesn't work.
- merciless debt collection by IMF
in other words, you need cameras, police, laws, taxation, judicial systems to coerce individuals to behave nicely and justly and make a society work.
@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nnright wing people think that most people are selfish. the left thinks that only rich people are selfish.
Charities became popular literally because wealthy people try to buy better public image and avoid tax 😂 what fantasy world do you live in?
As brilliant an economist as Joseph Stiglitz is, he is truly awful at erm, urgh, public speaking.
What is the problem with that ? The message has been delivered.
You good intention well lead to distraction of society
What broght us here Socialism?😅😅