Great video, mate! This reminds me of when I spoke about cine lenses for my photography friend. At that time, he was about 20 years experience of in photographs. He even didn't know that cine lenses exist... Then I tried to explain the differences between photo and cine lenses, but he didn't (or even want to) understand. He was so pissed off because I did know more things about cameras than he did... Oh, those photographers...😂
old DSLR lenses, while not having hard stops at infinity or close focus, are atleast direct drive with a clutch. Something also to consider because for instance i use a nikon 24-70 2.8E VR on my z9 as my video set-up with Nucleus Nano II and it costed me 1.1k euros few months ago. It's nowhere near parifocal nor breathingless, but atleast in the breathing compartment it's very close to the Ranger zooms, so in my mind you can make it work for a lot less, and have VR added on top
Parfocal is probably a good reason to get them... if you are shooting for a movie? If everything your client wants goes to social media and want a fast turn around, this lens may give you more trouble than pleasure.
It can be used to spice up longer project. Those perfect gm can become a little bit boring. So you use 75% gm and then 25% those special cinema lenses. At least what i use my anamorphic usually for
Because of focus breathing and it looks so unprofessional idk why its so hard to comprehend. Its a different workflow you are usually using these lenses in professional environments where you have a focus puller and you can redo the shot if needed they arent made for run and gun or wedding photography. I personally rarely use my surui cinema lenses or anamorphics and I agree that Sony’s autofocus even for video is incredible and plenty good for most applications but its stupid to even compare them. If I could get a gm lens without that clean clinical over contrasty look I would but I will settle because of the ease of use
@@Max_filmatic_music I barely can call sirui a "cine lens". It's little bit more than a "no-name". Zeiss is a starting point in cine lenses. You can run gm in a manual mode and get zero breathing. Modern sony cameras have breathing compensation. Sony GM's are an ultimate kit for any pipeline.
@@Max_filmatic_music The only one worried about focus breathing is the professional worried about focus breathing. Everyone else is hopefully engrossed in the content being recorded.
It amazes me how people are so stuck up sony's butt that they think sony is the only way to go.... If you need to nurse off sony that's fine but that doesn't mean that is the right for all. I thing Gmaster lenses suck!
"Character is everything". This can't be evangelized enough imo. Character is THE number one criteria for me when shopping for a lens. Number one. If it doesn't have character I don't proceed. What's the point? The "filmic" or "cinematic" look is in part due to the lens' character. This type of look is a thick, painterly look. What does that mean in a practical sense? It means you have softer edge gradation, but great light transmission and reproduction to capture detail. Sharpness and detail are not the same thing. If you're going for a painterly look, you'll stay far away from hyper-sharp tack edge, clinical glass. This works against you more than for you. I still to this day reach from my Canon FD primes. "Character"for days. Pro Mist need not apply. As a side note I would love to see a cine zoom that isn't as long as my forearm, and stokes nightmares of broken mounts. Someone is going to figure out a way.
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Great video, mate!
This reminds me of when I spoke about cine lenses for my photography friend. At that time, he was about 20 years experience of in photographs. He even didn't know that cine lenses exist... Then I tried to explain the differences between photo and cine lenses, but he didn't (or even want to) understand. He was so pissed off because I did know more things about cameras than he did...
Oh, those photographers...😂
hahaha. We just have to think about others not knowing and just chill our minds for a second
old DSLR lenses, while not having hard stops at infinity or close focus, are atleast direct drive with a clutch. Something also to consider because for instance i use a nikon 24-70 2.8E VR on my z9 as my video set-up with Nucleus Nano II and it costed me 1.1k euros few months ago. It's nowhere near parifocal nor breathingless, but atleast in the breathing compartment it's very close to the Ranger zooms, so in my mind you can make it work for a lot less, and have VR added on top
a lot of chat about GM lenses. i've got a 24-70 gm2 and would happily get rid of it for this.
Surely you just bought them because having a lens named “Ranger” if freakin awesome ;-)
😂😂
Hi did you shim the adapter or lens when you put them on your camera?
Ranger VS OOOM I want to see a video or a short at least
Parfocal is probably a good reason to get them... if you are shooting for a movie? If everything your client wants goes to social media and want a fast turn around, this lens may give you more trouble than pleasure.
For fun and gun style social media content yes. There are high end commercials for social media too that won’t touch auto focus lenses
It can be used to spice up longer project. Those perfect gm can become a little bit boring. So you use 75% gm and then 25% those special cinema lenses. At least what i use my anamorphic usually for
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Yes, then they mount a DJI Lidar unit to make them autofocus... >.
How can it give you more touble if fast turnarounds are only relevant to post production?
@@Eyeofkamau it takes much longer and is more tedious to manually focus a lens without a focus puller
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Cine has much nicer focus ring ngl. But gm wins in light factor for what you get
Wait... Another camera?😮
hehe....
Still no clue why it's better than my 24-70 gm ii
Yeah, definitely.
GM - clean image, best AF.
More "character" - Samyang, Tt, Meike, ect.
clean
Because of focus breathing and it looks so unprofessional idk why its so hard to comprehend. Its a different workflow you are usually using these lenses in professional environments where you have a focus puller and you can redo the shot if needed they arent made for run and gun or wedding photography. I personally rarely use my surui cinema lenses or anamorphics and I agree that Sony’s autofocus even for video is incredible and plenty good for most applications but its stupid to even compare them. If I could get a gm lens without that clean clinical over contrasty look I would but I will settle because of the ease of use
@@Max_filmatic_music I barely can call sirui a "cine lens". It's little bit more than a "no-name". Zeiss is a starting point in cine lenses.
You can run gm in a manual mode and get zero breathing. Modern sony cameras have breathing compensation.
Sony GM's are an ultimate kit for any pipeline.
@@Max_filmatic_music
The only one worried about focus breathing is the professional worried about focus breathing. Everyone else is hopefully engrossed in the content being recorded.
It amazes me how people are so stuck up sony's butt that they think sony is the only way to go.... If you need to nurse off sony that's fine but that doesn't mean that is the right for all. I thing Gmaster lenses suck!
hahaha. Classic
"Character is everything".
This can't be evangelized enough imo.
Character is THE number one criteria for me when shopping for a lens. Number one. If it doesn't have character I don't proceed. What's the point?
The "filmic" or "cinematic" look is in part due to the lens' character. This type of look is a thick, painterly look. What does that mean in a practical sense? It means you have softer edge gradation, but great light transmission and reproduction to capture detail. Sharpness and detail are not the same thing.
If you're going for a painterly look, you'll stay far away from hyper-sharp tack edge, clinical glass. This works against you more than for you.
I still to this day reach from my Canon FD primes. "Character"for days. Pro Mist need not apply.
As a side note I would love to see a cine zoom that isn't as long as my forearm, and stokes nightmares of broken mounts. Someone is going to figure out a way.
Nah, lenses are trash , G Masters all the way bro.
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GM for life bro. Even on the Komodo X