Just one little correction from a Maltese history student/teacher-to-be: Malta gained independence from the British in 1964 (not 1956 like is said in the video) with the Queen still remaining as Head-of-State until 1974 when we attained the status of Republic, free from Britian in totality.
@@jordanpatterson2520lore lodge generally said we have a general idea where and what happened to the colony but the missing key is where are the bodies or if which of the hostile tribes may have been taken those slain bodies. Since white's daughter said they were attack and the theory of mingling with the natives is very threading on eggshells at best.
@@stalinsoulz7872probably just animals who ate them. This was before the Appalachian wolves and mountain lions had been hunted to near extinction, bears too. They were also sailing across the Atlantic on wooden boats, so the bodies would have been left there for months if not a year or more.
Has Graham Hancock ever played the Assassin's Creed games? I think he'd really like them. It has an ancient race of hyper advanced beings that controlled humanity before dying off in a cataclysm thousands of years ago. You actually visit Atlantis in one of the games. It really seems like the kind of thing he would enjoy.
big true. i think he'd love the first game most.... but there is a good chance he'd like the 2nd game more... the viking one wasn't very historically cool, and i didn't play the third one.... what AC game do you think graham would like the most?
The point you made about reaching people on the fence at 54:20 is absolutely key, it shocks me how many people I've seen fall down conspiracy rabbit holes (myself included) and end up believing some really wacky stuff purely because all the experts in that area laugh and accidentally censor the fringe conspiracies. If it's approached reasonably, and debunked in a respectful way, it draws so many people away from false beliefs. You're honestly doing an amazing job at just that, I was telling a friend about this exact thing just a few days ago and that entire conclusion was a perfect example of it!
And I forgot to tell you in my last comment that your channel is def 1 of the most intelligent I've come across with the most academically sound arguments & explanations around. Quite impressive to anyone that knows these topics and how to present such in a way that more than conspiracy theorists & nuts will find compelling and influential. We'll done sir, we'll done indeed.
It’s so frustrating how much Graham paints himself and his theories to be “anti establishment” and against the mainstream narrative to give himself some credibility. As soon as certain people hear things like that they’re already prone to believe him. It’s even more frustrating because he clearly has a thirst for knowledge that he can use to actually shine a spotlight on ancient civilizations that aren’t heard about but chooses to do this
You're wrong ... The only thing Graham Hancock has a thirst for is money. If he gave a shit about actual knowledge he could easily take the time to better understand the academic rigor and validity behind his much-hated "mainstream" archeology etc
He’s a complete liar he’s never mentioned typrilla once he doesn’t even know who sintashta is and like many so called historians he avoids dna evidence the least bias data we have
I agree. As soon as he opens up by saying "I'm going to tell you the things THEY don't want you to hear!" it's manipulation, which I don't like. And oftentimes there are faaaaaaaar reaches between his evidence and his conclusions.
Exactly, he's not against the mainstream narrative or antiestablishment at all. The endless swath of hitpieces and ad hominems leveled at him from both media and academia is simply the result of objective, empirical thinkers, the kind of empirical thinkers who love debate and so choose to shut it down and make it impossible at every turn. Excuse me I need to stop now, this npc think is literally hurting my head.
@@budgreenjeans sorry if you were misunderstood, but Aidan contracts me to help with the archaeological research for videos covering that topic since I am an archaeologist.
My sister has a masters in Geology and she told me a really interesting piece of science history. Back in the 1930s, well before the discovery of Tectonic plates it was assumed that the continents were static and didn't ever move. A meteorologist at the time studying climate areas notices a bizarre pattern that indicated many climate zoned 'lined up' with places on other continents. His research was the first to prove that the jigsaw puzzle of Africa and South America fitting together actually was because they were once one piece and not simply a coincidence. He took his findings to a major convention of geologists and was hoping that this gathering of the top geologists on the planet would know what to make of his info. They laughed him out of the room and told him he had no credentials for geology, he couldn't possibly have anything to contribute to their field and basically told him to go back to cloud watching. Two decades and the Second World War go by, the meteorologist passes away and the geology community gets a call from Uncle Sam and the DoD. The US navy has it's fleets of submarines mapping the ocean floor and they found this giant ass ridge, longer than whole continents, running down close to the middle of the Atlantic ocean. The military wanted to know what the fuck it was and like the government is good at doings, a lot of money was thrown at studying the Mid Atlantic Ridge. As a result of the intense study of the ocean floors geography, Geologists where forces to admit that maybe that weather guy they mocked a few decades before was onto something. Now, we take for granted the fact that Plate tectonics is accepted science and that's the normal stuff taught in school. Back when the Boomers where in school, it wasn't, it was cutting edge science and a very NEW idea, a complete paradigm shift. Academia hates Paradigm shifts and they hate anyone who pokes a hole in the paradigm. The problem is, sometimes the paradigm is just *wrong* and it takes someone with a different perspective to see why it's wrong. I appreciate the Graham Handcock Atlantis theory for this reason. Even if Handcock is wrong about 99% of his theory, that 1% that's right breaks a lot of the accepted paradigm. It is important to find these flaws in the paradigm because they open up huge new segments of our own history and just general knowledge to us. If we care about history actually being a study of the true events of the past, then we need to consider *everything* that can be proven to be true. Otherwise, once we begin to ignore truth in history, we go down the same road the Holocaust deniers or 'Moon landing was fake' people do. You don't get to say you value the Truth and then ignore parts of it; there is only one Truth, one way History happened, no such thing as 'my truth' or 'your truth'. I want History to be about Truth, not the 'truth' that some stodgy tenured professor with an ego problem believes to be the 'truth'. Ad hominin attacks on the credibility of Hancocks book back in the 90s didn't make Golbeki Tepi any less real when it was found a few years later There's was in fact evidence of organized civilization LONG before Sumer and Mesopotamia. We need to keep looking and having more people interested in the search (even if they have quirky ideas) is not a bad thing. How many archeologists ARE trained scuba divers? How many know how to operate a drone to scan the rainforests of South America with LIDAR? other people with other specialties can help. Dissing someone as 'not credible' just because they aren't an archeologist is exactly what geologists did to the meteorologist who discovered plate tectonics. Academia is shooting itself in the foot by being as obsessed about specialization and 'staying in your lane' like it is. Where are the great polymaths and geniuses who are experts in a half dozen unrelated fields? Why in the most educated period of history do we not have any Da Vincis or Newtons and why was Einstein and Hawkings our last great scientists? Even Einstein fell into the elitism trap of academia when Hawkings came along in the 50s and challenged him on Black Holes. Turns out General and Special relativity had an error: black holes DO leak radiation and we call it Hawking Radiation because of the man who challenged Einstein himself. It's ironic that Einstein, a man who rewrote the paradigm on physics, was so upset when a younger and equally intelligent physicist challenged HIS paradigm after it became the accepted, uncontested truth. (Sidenote: The best argument to use against one of the 'moon landing was fake' people is to point out that not even the Soviets argued that point. If ANYONE was going to claim the US was lying about the Apollo 11 landing and actually had the ability to back up what they were claiming, it was the Soviets. Instead, they watched the US land, and had nothing to say to counter it so just quietly accepted defeat in the Space Race.)
Bravo! Fantastic video! I love your fairmindedness and your devotion to actual rigorous scholarship. I wish more people were as even-handed as you are when evaluating theories, and I wish more people actually bothered to do real research before making their theories and opinions public! Rock on, Sir!
I subbed to your channel about a week ago, and have been binge watching all your stuff, I'm not caught up yet, but this was too cool to pass up. I'm VERY curious about your theories, I haven't visited Malta myself, but I know people who have, and they're all baffled by the structures on the island.
Just a small note several orders from the crusades exist today albeit so much as military orders but have more charitable functions now. The hospitalars are one of those as well as the order of the holy sepulcher who even still act as honor guard for certain church events, and the order of st. Lazarus of Jerusalem who fund hospitals all over the world. It's actually a pretty cool bit of history that i just found out recently. All that to say your content is amazing keep it up.
I don't know much about my heritage, but there's one thing that always sticks with me - the4e are more Maltese people living around the world than in Malta itself!
I recommend watching Miniminuteman's series of debunking Ancient Apocalypse. Not only is it really informative about archeology and history, it's also pretty funny.
That's the last guy anyone should be watching. He doesn't so much refute anyone as much as he goes to great lengths to talk condescendingly towards people who's theories differ from what you read in textbooks some of which don't go as far as to even entertain what led to the development of the amazing structures at theses historical sites.
Clearly you didn't actually watch the videos, as he backs up his humor with actual facts and evidence in every point he makes. Don't spread misinformation.@@jeremiahh.3383
Hey they end of the month came and went any word on that desk drawing? I've been standing at my computer for over 4 years because the spot I have it in for safety is yo higher for any chair in my house, I know it's unlikely I get the draw but I've been thinking about it a ton
Graham Hancock's general method for dating sites is based on which way their door faces, then he goes into the charts to see where the solstice would have shone through it and suggests that's the actual date. So based on that, I'm going to have to call my Realtor because apparently my house is actually 12,000 years old and WASN'T built in 1992.
Do people build houses today to face constellations or stars? Does the natural sunrise/set line up perfectly through 3 separate windows depending on if it’s a solstice or equinox? Of these megaliths he says face constellations, which ones have evidence of being homes or houses? Grahams argument is weak but your counter is weaker.
@@billgentry12 Lol yes we do. We build houses with northern or southern exposures to ensure adequate lighting through our windows at different times of the year. We LITERALLY build our houses based on the sun's processions. Point for my argument...hahaha
@@antagonizerr I’ll ask again. And please answer the rest of my questions too. Do we build houses to face constellations or stars? I’m not talking about natural light. Do we build houses to face the rising sun on equinoxes or solstices?
@@billgentry12 I did. I think you're understanding me without actually understanding me. Build a house with...say...a southern exposure. Your door won't be facing the equinox or solstice or any "important" star tho, right? Well, if you look at the tables, you'll find a period within the last 12-15,000 years where it would have. That's because of Earth's eccentricity. That's what Graham is using to come up with his earlier dates. The ancients build structures with facings that allowed in the MOST POSSIBLE LIGHT but not necessarily face the equinox or solstice or any star. That's because walls close to 2 feet thick...construction methods not allowing for large windows, etc. they need to orient them for maximum internal lighting. HOWEVER, if you were to go into the tables, much like Graham does, their doors WOULD face either the equinox or solstice and failing that, some star or other that Graham deems they "must have" thought important. It's a bit like looking for the time 11:11 on a clock. Over a long enough timeline you'll look at your clock, and it's be exactly 11:11, and probably more than once. It's not as big a statistical improbability as you think.
@@antagonizerr bro I know what natural light is lmao. Graham isn’t talking about houses. Which megaliths that graham proposes have evidence of being houses or homes? That’s one question I asked that I want answered. It makes sense homes were built with maximum natural light. I’m curious about the megaliths that mesh perfectly with astronomy. If megaliths slowly turn the more recent they’re made, it’s just intuitive that they’re following something. I’m not saying aliens came down and helped hunter gatherers. I just find it more plausible that there was an older civilization that spread knowledge. How come most older civilizations we know all have a similar apocalypse and creation story? “Huge apocalypse, man comes and spreads knowledge, proceeds to leave” How did civilizations all around the world create similar megalithic sites? Is it just human nature to build huge stone sites that for the most part align with astronomical groups or events? Science has been wrong more than it’s been right. I’m not saying the current narrative is wrong, but we shouldn’t shut down opposing narrative without looking at them with an open mind. I don’t think there was an ancient globe wide civilization. I just think it was similar to now(advanced civies in the world but we still live alongside hunter gatherers), most advanced civies by the oceans, which would be the first to go in an event of large amounts of sea level rise. I just think a small group survived and spread their knowledge to the lesser advanced. Idk why this is so controversial when we have evidence of a mass extinction around that time, evidence of a dramatic shift in climate, and evidence of anatomically similar humans at that time. Did we just not have civilizations for 85-90% of the time we’ve been the same creatures? Or maybe a huge cataclysm just fucked everybody’s life up and we’ve been rebuilding ever since. Graham has written some wild shit in his time. That’s why I’m not 100% on his side, but he proposes reasonable questions that need to be answered. But all I see is instant dismissal, and even people calling him a nazi or white supremacist. When if you actually watch his show, he hates what the colonizers did to the natives and their structures. Attack his points not just “my house could be 11,000 years old by his logic”. We know 100% your house isn’t that old. No one’s house is. If he says “it’s off because its so old.” You have to disprove him by dating the structure. If it’s not old enough he’s just wrong, but instead I always see “you nutter no way it’s that old/they didn’t care that much about the stars/no one at the time advanced enough to be that accurate” just straight up infantilizing ancient humans.
Prior to the destruction of the library of Alexandria, the Disintegration of the Sumerian, Mesopotamian, and Ancient Greek societies, and the fall of the Holy Roman Empire, mankind definitely had amassed a massive and impressive wealth of general knowledge in the fields of math, science, astronomy, and biology, that we find to be almost impossible for them to obtain but yet they did. I find it absolutely arrogant and pretentious that our current society believes the average person today is smarter than the people of the past. If anything people are becoming dumber by the day. I believe we don’t give ancient man enough credit for there incredible achievements and accomplishments.
Every single time I watch a video that talks about the development of ancient civilizations, it makes me want to go play Civ hahaha Also, I always headbang to your theme music 🤘🏼
I *am* a trained archaeologist, and this is very good. I particularly like the defense of Neaderthals. My former advisor would go off about their public reputation, lol.
So, dude, here's yet another interest that we have in common. Ancient history. So there's folklore, fringe missing persons cases, supernatural/paranormal.... And now ancient history. I wonder if this extends to ancient architecture.
As a Maltese, the first time I heard about this I was absoltely baffled by the concept. But hey, we made it into another youtube video! Your pronounciation of 'Ġgantija' is amusing, I give you an A for effort
Shoutout to Plato making an allegory akin to Icarus about getting too greedy too fast and now people are like “but where is it. I know it’s real. Where is it” girl where is animal farm hiding
He specifically says (or rather, the Egyptian priest who is telling Solon about Atlantis) that many ancient mythical stories are actually retellings of ancient historical events, like catastrophes that wiped out previous cultures. It's an odd detail to add to something he intended as a pure allegory.
There’s a guy who did some research into the eye of Sahara, a place in Africa and when you look from satellite you can see where a massive wave washed across North Africa. Probably what Atlantis was since there is a mountain to the west and there was a place with a king of the same name mentioned by Plato to the east
@@sleepyproduction7166most good stories have a shred of truth or historical basis esp when the story is meant to be a lesson or convey a message. gladiator has a historical basis but we know from the context that its a just a good story not a depiction of history as it literally happened.
Love how click-baity these titles are, knowing that when someone exposed to this conspiracy will click on this to learn more and inadvertently learn more. Big brain
I will say that I remember hearing a similar story about quetzalcoatl leaving and saying he would return but I can't for the life of me figure out from where. It can't have been from Graham because I remember hearing it years ago and I've only heard of Graham from your videos talking about him
A few things about Neanderthals: - Most people who study them professionally believe that they "died out" a lot more recently than archeology as a field is currently acknowledging. There's a few reasons for this. Shaky evidence like these teeth are one reason. 18K years ago is very, very recent for Neanderthals, and they haven't really been dated beyond that, but we're still dating a lot of stuff in context. If they'd been found by somebody famous in the 1920's, we'd probably accept them as proof. Then there are pieces of evidence like that kid they found in Spain who has been extensively tested and determined to be both 27,000 years old, and half Neanderthal. There are more controversial finds on the Iberian peninsula that may be from as recently as 22k years ago. Do I believe those finds are reliable? I don't know. The information on them is pretty gatekept by the old heads of archaeology. - I said "died out" because that's a loaded term that I don't believe is accurate. When anatomically modern humans started coming to Europe from Africa, they came in great numbers into a population that was already dwindling. Neanderthal populations were in free fall as the ice age ended, forests became plains, and ambush hunting couldn't sustain them like it could before. Humans, meeting these people, did what humans do: some got violent, some traded goods and went on their way, and some said "I wonder if I could hump that." Within ten generations, there were between nine and fifteen Homo sapiens sapiens for every Homo sapiens neanderthalensis. It was more that pure Neanderthal specimens were bred out of existence. It's sort of an old Ben/Obi Wan Kenobi situation. Of course we know them! We are them! We're not too clear on when Neanderthal traits disappeared completely, is my point. The short version is: we have a lot of reason to believe, on a professional level, that Neanderthals existed a lot longer than we previously believed, we just don't have what modern science would call a smoking gun. I'm not sure how a half Neanderthal kid dated to 27,000 years ago isn't a smoking gun, but that's academia for you.
Hello, Maltese here. if Atlantis was real, our government would have taken out 300 deals with Arabic oil tycoons in black budget projects just to resurface Atlantis to use as a tourist trap and segregate like 1/4th of it for the ministers and government officials, with the prime minister making the palace at the centre his new home, and dedicating the front courtyard as journalist target practice.
Do one on the endless Positivity of BrentlyG ... that dude could Enthuse the saddest of sad folk ...where he gets his mindset and energy is the true mystery... either that or he LOVES nosebeers
I generally agree that there probably is a lot more to pre-Bronze age human history than is generally believed, and the reason there isn't a lot of evidence for it is because a lot of it was either built with materials that degrade and/or most of it is just underwater now and/or people built on top of it. Once humanity reached the "civilization" stage of development, we tended to build places at the same spots (estuaries, river confluences, etc), so there could be all kinds of stuff buried under cities from 8,000 years ago or whatever that we'll never see because they're buried far underneath peoples' houses. However, the idea that there was some globe-spanning civilization is an extraordinary claim to make, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
A geologoical fact to keep in mind when discussing Mediterranean civilization and sites is the entire basin is below the Atlantic sea level. Seawater flows in via the straits of Gibraltar. If there were landbridges and areas now underwater, I'm curious as to when that occurred on the geological record, if we have any clear indication at all.
I really like ur videos cuz I do watch a lot of other videos like the one u are talking about & it’s really nice to hear the other side. Please make more. I also really like how ur respectful, give credit where do & it’s not just a Roast. Thanks again & gods bless every1.
World of Antiquity is a channel with a professor who looks into these things, if you want an academic look at this type of thing. You should have him on.
Linguist & hobby archaeologist here. Both of these fields are similar. I once heard a linguistics professor dismiss a well-done study by a renowned Economist that found a correlation between cultures that address future events in the present tense and the culture-wide average savings of each household. Fascinating study. The reason the professor gave? "This guy isn't a linguist; he doesn't know what he's talking about, and that just doesn't make sense." Both fields want to be taken seriously, but professionals in each field are just... ridiculous.
It's incredibly frustrating. I ripped into the professor, asking her how the field would ever be viewed as relevant or even taken seriously when they fail repeatedly to stick to the scientific method, and when they teach that IN CLASSES.
Graham has nice stories to tell it's unfortunate though that he tries to claim they're actually real and tries to prove them in a pseudoscientific manner. Just because a story is interesting doesn't mean it's real. Claiming everyone is out to get you doesn't give you legitimacy either, neither is taking a monument and changing it's age at a whim to suit your hypothesis.
I love how Graham Hancock goes out of his way to whine about people not believing in the ancient peoples ability to do stuff, and then promptly proclaims that there's no way ancient people could do things and it therefore must be Atlantis 🤣
Thank you for holding archaeology to the same standards as conspiracy theorists - it isn't enough to just say "nah nah can't be true" in a professional setting! (I trained in archaeology.)
But that said, I applaud you for being objective, for giving due where it is earned and criticizing where it is due. There are not many people who are able to do that 👍
There is also some intriguing archaeology on Menorca (the Balearic Islands) further west in the Med. Megalithic Talaiots and burial Naveta structures. Makes you wonder, if they were always small islands in a vast sea, why would people choose to settle there in favour of mainland areas with plenty of room, and more fertile soil, to carry on a successful agricultural society.
The Sansuna story reminds me of the Nephilim. To be clear I'm not suggesting that the traditionally accepted history of Malta is wrong. But perhaps a female Nephilim descendent traveled to Malta & myths were later made about her. Even her possible Semitic name origin supports the idea of her being a descendent of the Nephilim.
Imo it really seems like Plato was talking about South America when referencing Atlantis. As that's the only land mass aside from north America that is larger than Libya and Asia-minor combined and in the relative area he was speaking about.
@@Grimkeeper17 No. Not really. Plato had a habbit of making up civilizations, with complex histories in order to teach a lesson which in this case was huberus. There is a part in it, that sais that the antient Athenians were able to repell and defit the inveding Atlantis because they were so pure, had standerd mitlitary training, and no personal belongings. Plato really liked Sparta's political structure, so he based his Antient Athens story on it (In reallity Athens was not around the time when the tale is supposed to take place). The whole point of Atlantis story was that luxery bad, no luxery good. Plato belived that luxery was a bad thing, because it made people less virtues. Plato's tellings the sory of Atlantis, specificly it's history, goas as fallowes. So back in the old day, when the gods take part of the word for themself. Athena got Athens, and Poseidon got the island of Atlantis. Thene Poseidon fall in love with a woman from the island, named Cleito, and they together had five sets of twin boys, with the oldest named Atlas (do not confused with the Atlas who holds the sky, defrent Atlas). So Poseidon started dividing the Island among his demigod sons. He devided it into 10 region, with the central region ruled by Atlas. So they sepretly ruled the Island. And they put rules up to eachother. The most importent rule was that if one of them attacks an another, the other kings, and princes have to defend the one who was attacked.This is there to keep them in line for the future. So thise 10 devin kings produced 10 lineage of kings, but the father this went on, the less devin it got. And the less godness they are, and the more human they become, and so the luxerius life style starts going up to they heads. So they try to concur the Mediteranien. They concer everything exept Athens. Athens wins that battle. Zeus notices the evil coruption of the kings and calls the other Olympians to discuss it, and to tell Poseidon to do something about it. So Poseidon responses with striking the island with a devesteting earthqueck, sinking the entair island in the proces, in one night.
This was great. Well done. Interestingly enough, Malta is another area the Tartarians talk about. They think it was built by an advanced species and its all poured concrete. They have no understanding of its complex history and how many different cultures and peoples have contributed towards its construction over centuries to make the Malta we know today. Tartaria is really does need to be destroyed. It is preventing many from learning about real history.
One of the problems with Graham Hancock is that he's the king of "it kind of looks like this to me, so that's what it must be". Add to that him often presenting those theories as observable fact that Big Archeology just doesn't want the public to know and I think it becomes understandable why he's so easy to dismiss. And the only willingness I have seen him show towards being wrong was dependent on him still being able to force that evidence to fit his narrative.
Does Hancock point out that there are I think 37 Neolithic temples all over Gozo and Malta? Does Hancock mention Clapham Junction? An area near the quarry where all the stones were excavated from. There are pairs of groves cut into the rock like railroad tracks running from the quarry to all locations with megalithic structures. Archaeologists hypothesize that these tracks were used by wheeled carts to transport the rocks. Since the British were the colonizers they named the place where all tracks converged after Clapham Junction in the London west end.
in defense of the guy who said that the boulders simply dont look man-made; archaeologists lack funding. i wouldnt waste my time and money on something that is 90% natural either. proving that its not man-made would do nothing in the grand scheme of things
I am coming from a point of constructive criticism. Could you please title your multipart videos as such? I have recently picked up your channel and I am going through your catalogue and multipart videos are not identified until a bit into the video itself. Just a minor inconvenience as a viewer. I enjoy your work and find your analysis interesting. Keep up the good work Aiden^2!
I don't have the archeological lore to argue Maltese specific conditions but I would like to point out that the aboriginal people of Australia were there approximately 60'000 years ago with stone age technology and the Maori of New Zealand had legends of monsters that were later confirmed by biological remains as Giant Moa and other megafauna. So archaic humans with a base level of technology and a capacity for passing on oral traditions is absolutely realistic, megalithic construction is very doable with enough time and manpower so building works pre 6000bc is absolutely realistic in my own opinion. Edit: on the subject of Sirius, if you are willing to entertain completely unproven fringe ideas, a great many cultures in wildly different locations and historical periods all associated Sirius as one of the homes of "the gods who came from the sky" whichever pantheon it happens to be in that culture the God associated with Sirius teaches the locals civilisation, agriculture and astronomical knowledge. If you want to link unexpectedly complex structures with a Sirius alignment that's an interesting concept.
First of kudos for the balanced analysis and pronunciation! We have a weird tricky language with sounds extinct from modern Arabic that are not used in any Romance languages either. The only real mistakes are: "j" is always a "y"; we have two "g", a "g" (hard g) and a "ġ" ("gee" sound); gh is a distinct more-or-less unvocalised sound (the easiest is to just treat it as a brief pause so Ghar Dalam would be pronounded -ar Dalam). Whenever I see my homeland's history, especially pre-history, mentioned in any sort of media I despair of what nonsense someone will spew to further their own agenda. You did a great job NOT doing that at all. I learned a little too, so thanks! Some small translations people might find useful from a Maltese: Ghar Dalam (the cave) just means darkened cave (cave dwelling was common, and even extant to a small degree in the 20th Century) Ġgantija lit. means giants place Gebel gol-bahar means stones in the sea There is also a very significant site called Hagar Qim, lit. old stones All to say, these names probably date to the Arab period, and many would be from people of the day trying to explain (and therefore mythologise) the ancient past. Think of the way Renaissance Europeans, especially Italians, viewed the Romans. Regarding the "cart ruts" - very similar structures occur on Lampedusa, Pantelleria and I think the other small Italian territories nearby. Those are connected to Roman cisterns but as far as I know (not a historian), the rock channels to capture and direct rainwater are older. Since childhood I have always thought this the most likely reason for the Maltese "cart ruts". Water management in arid countries is certainly worth the effort to carve the upper coralline limestone in some of those locations.
Your videos are always so damn fascinating and make me miss studying history so much. What an interesting subject! Thanks for scratching my "know esoteric things" itch, as always! ❤
"People think that people before them were dumb or inferior." Did ya'all study Latin and Greek at school? School, not college. All I know about Malta is that they are famous for their falcons and they make good chocolate covered milk balls.
All archeology is conjecture. As you noted, paradigm shifts are hard to accept for established experts in the field. Sadly, the primary reason being ego rather than disputing hard science.
Graham Hancock claiming historians think ancient people are stupid is rich considering his claims that ancient humans couldnt have figured out pyramids without aliens
classics master student here, from the linguistic side of things rather than archaeological. What you had to say about the archaeological community and their shortcomings nearer the end of the video was spot on. They are far too quick to disregard literary connections, are often times quite lazy in their own research, and simply want you to respect them because of their time "in the field" (i.e. a vacation in Italy or Greece for a summer, with lots of drinking) or their degree; what is especially frustrating is when you have the same level of education as them lol. Keep on keeping on my guy, love this channel.
Academics really need knocked down a peg or a few, because Forrest gallente points out how animal/wildlife academics will know how many teeth an animal has, and read every book on what the animal does. But have never actually been in the field with these animals they claim to be an expert on. There’s been people who live along side animals and said ‘hey they’re moving out to this area or doing this new thing’ and the academics shut them down saying they know everything there is to know about the animals
Pretty good show have to keep an open mind on all of this. One thing we can agree on the real information is being suppress Alterd withheld whatever you want to call
None of the carbon reliably dates the side, because none of it was under the rocks so the rocks could have been there a long time before hand. It is not the date that is unreliable; it is the link between the date and the rocks.
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Just one little correction from a Maltese history student/teacher-to-be: Malta gained independence from the British in 1964 (not 1956 like is said in the video) with the Queen still remaining as Head-of-State until 1974 when we attained the status of Republic, free from Britian in totality.
A huge number of Maltese also have Italian surnames and most Maltese speak Italian, also.
That’s super cool information! This whole video has me wanting to learn more about Maltese ancient history, so thanks for providing that!
They also didn't want independence, they had a referendum and the majority wanted to be integrated as a part of Britain.
My bad! I think I mixed up the date they decided against joining the UK with their independence. Might have that mixed up too, I do make mistakes 😅
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I don’t know if you did this before, but I like that when you quote someone, you put a picture of them on the screen.
Same, easier to remember a name with a face than a name in a sea of other names in the story.
SAME!!!
Does this mean Wendigoon is a giant?
GIANTS!!!
The myth of the giant wendigoon
The appearance of Wendigoon + GIANTS absolutely finished me LOL.
That entirely aside, I learned so much from this, thank you!
Wow you’re so quirky and random bro
I just realized missing Atlantis is missing 411 but for a whole city.
So is Roanoke
Atlantis is an island.
@@jordanpatterson2520lore lodge generally said we have a general idea where and what happened to the colony but the missing key is where are the bodies or if which of the hostile tribes may have been taken those slain bodies. Since white's daughter said they were attack and the theory of mingling with the natives is very threading on eggshells at best.
@@jordanpatterson2520Roanoke is solved
@@stalinsoulz7872probably just animals who ate them. This was before the Appalachian wolves and mountain lions had been hunted to near extinction, bears too.
They were also sailing across the Atlantic on wooden boats, so the bodies would have been left there for months if not a year or more.
Has Graham Hancock ever played the Assassin's Creed games? I think he'd really like them. It has an ancient race of hyper advanced beings that controlled humanity before dying off in a cataclysm thousands of years ago. You actually visit Atlantis in one of the games. It really seems like the kind of thing he would enjoy.
big true. i think he'd love the first game most.... but there is a good chance he'd like the 2nd game more... the viking one wasn't very historically cool, and i didn't play the third one.... what AC game do you think graham would like the most?
@@forkittensorgins he isn't interested in Greek history sadly😢
@@forkittenshe would like Black Frag sorely because pirates. Also 1 and 2.
Those devs knew something I swear, I think it'll come out that stories like that are far closer to truth than anyone is comfortable with
Your logical consistency is refreshing. I cant get enough of it
The point you made about reaching people on the fence at 54:20 is absolutely key, it shocks me how many people I've seen fall down conspiracy rabbit holes (myself included) and end up believing some really wacky stuff purely because all the experts in that area laugh and accidentally censor the fringe conspiracies. If it's approached reasonably, and debunked in a respectful way, it draws so many people away from false beliefs.
You're honestly doing an amazing job at just that, I was telling a friend about this exact thing just a few days ago and that entire conclusion was a perfect example of it!
To be fair, most are burned by the Flat Earthers and trying to convince them
“You get to go to space Jeff, let me find Atlantis” needs to go on a TShirt 😂
I already found Atlantis.
That wendigoon cut is prime 👌🏽😂
I noticed this comment at the same time I saw his face pop up
Good timing
And I forgot to tell you in my last comment that your channel is def 1 of the most intelligent I've come across with the most academically sound arguments & explanations around. Quite impressive to anyone that knows these topics and how to present such in a way that more than conspiracy theorists & nuts will find compelling and influential. We'll done sir, we'll done indeed.
It’s so frustrating how much Graham paints himself and his theories to be “anti establishment” and against the mainstream narrative to give himself some credibility. As soon as certain people hear things like that they’re already prone to believe him. It’s even more frustrating because he clearly has a thirst for knowledge that he can use to actually shine a spotlight on ancient civilizations that aren’t heard about but chooses to do this
You're wrong ... The only thing Graham Hancock has a thirst for is money. If he gave a shit about actual knowledge he could easily take the time to better understand the academic rigor and validity behind his much-hated "mainstream" archeology etc
He’s a complete liar he’s never mentioned typrilla once he doesn’t even know who sintashta is and like many so called historians he avoids dna evidence the least bias data we have
I agree. As soon as he opens up by saying "I'm going to tell you the things THEY don't want you to hear!" it's manipulation, which I don't like. And oftentimes there are faaaaaaaar reaches between his evidence and his conclusions.
Exactly, he's not against the mainstream narrative or antiestablishment at all. The endless swath of hitpieces and ad hominems leveled at him from both media and academia is simply the result of objective, empirical thinkers, the kind of empirical thinkers who love debate and so choose to shut it down and make it impossible at every turn. Excuse me I need to stop now, this npc think is literally hurting my head.
@@royriley6282it’s because Graham is objectively, empirically full of shit.
love how he explains meltwater pulse 1B as if he doesnt bring it up every video❤
Aidan don't play the "watch all 100 of my episodes to know what I'm talking about" game.
@@JDPetty0990 that is precisely why I do it
I enjoyed doing the research for this with you! Good shit
@@budgreenjeans sorry if you were misunderstood, but Aidan contracts me to help with the archaeological research for videos covering that topic since I am an archaeologist.
Reminds me Mr.mythos did a video on Malta with giants too. Wendigoon is gonna go nuts.
Came here wondering if Wendigoon’s ears were twitching.
My sister has a masters in Geology and she told me a really interesting piece of science history. Back in the 1930s, well before the discovery of Tectonic plates it was assumed that the continents were static and didn't ever move. A meteorologist at the time studying climate areas notices a bizarre pattern that indicated many climate zoned 'lined up' with places on other continents. His research was the first to prove that the jigsaw puzzle of Africa and South America fitting together actually was because they were once one piece and not simply a coincidence. He took his findings to a major convention of geologists and was hoping that this gathering of the top geologists on the planet would know what to make of his info. They laughed him out of the room and told him he had no credentials for geology, he couldn't possibly have anything to contribute to their field and basically told him to go back to cloud watching. Two decades and the Second World War go by, the meteorologist passes away and the geology community gets a call from Uncle Sam and the DoD. The US navy has it's fleets of submarines mapping the ocean floor and they found this giant ass ridge, longer than whole continents, running down close to the middle of the Atlantic ocean. The military wanted to know what the fuck it was and like the government is good at doings, a lot of money was thrown at studying the Mid Atlantic Ridge. As a result of the intense study of the ocean floors geography, Geologists where forces to admit that maybe that weather guy they mocked a few decades before was onto something.
Now, we take for granted the fact that Plate tectonics is accepted science and that's the normal stuff taught in school. Back when the Boomers where in school, it wasn't, it was cutting edge science and a very NEW idea, a complete paradigm shift. Academia hates Paradigm shifts and they hate anyone who pokes a hole in the paradigm. The problem is, sometimes the paradigm is just *wrong* and it takes someone with a different perspective to see why it's wrong.
I appreciate the Graham Handcock Atlantis theory for this reason. Even if Handcock is wrong about 99% of his theory, that 1% that's right breaks a lot of the accepted paradigm. It is important to find these flaws in the paradigm because they open up huge new segments of our own history and just general knowledge to us. If we care about history actually being a study of the true events of the past, then we need to consider *everything* that can be proven to be true. Otherwise, once we begin to ignore truth in history, we go down the same road the Holocaust deniers or 'Moon landing was fake' people do. You don't get to say you value the Truth and then ignore parts of it; there is only one Truth, one way History happened, no such thing as 'my truth' or 'your truth'. I want History to be about Truth, not the 'truth' that some stodgy tenured professor with an ego problem believes to be the 'truth'. Ad hominin attacks on the credibility of Hancocks book back in the 90s didn't make Golbeki Tepi any less real when it was found a few years later There's was in fact evidence of organized civilization LONG before Sumer and Mesopotamia.
We need to keep looking and having more people interested in the search (even if they have quirky ideas) is not a bad thing. How many archeologists ARE trained scuba divers? How many know how to operate a drone to scan the rainforests of South America with LIDAR? other people with other specialties can help. Dissing someone as 'not credible' just because they aren't an archeologist is exactly what geologists did to the meteorologist who discovered plate tectonics. Academia is shooting itself in the foot by being as obsessed about specialization and 'staying in your lane' like it is. Where are the great polymaths and geniuses who are experts in a half dozen unrelated fields? Why in the most educated period of history do we not have any Da Vincis or Newtons and why was Einstein and Hawkings our last great scientists? Even Einstein fell into the elitism trap of academia when Hawkings came along in the 50s and challenged him on Black Holes. Turns out General and Special relativity had an error: black holes DO leak radiation and we call it Hawking Radiation because of the man who challenged Einstein himself. It's ironic that Einstein, a man who rewrote the paradigm on physics, was so upset when a younger and equally intelligent physicist challenged HIS paradigm after it became the accepted, uncontested truth.
(Sidenote: The best argument to use against one of the 'moon landing was fake' people is to point out that not even the Soviets argued that point. If ANYONE was going to claim the US was lying about the Apollo 11 landing and actually had the ability to back up what they were claiming, it was the Soviets. Instead, they watched the US land, and had nothing to say to counter it so just quietly accepted defeat in the Space Race.)
Bravo! Fantastic video! I love your fairmindedness and your devotion to actual rigorous scholarship. I wish more people were as even-handed as you are when evaluating theories, and I wish more people actually bothered to do real research before making their theories and opinions public! Rock on, Sir!
I am so impressed with your level of knowledge, research and relatively unbiased opinions. This is refreshing
Very biased opinions lmao
Super Excited. Always good content!
I subbed to your channel about a week ago, and have been binge watching all your stuff, I'm not caught up yet, but this was too cool to pass up. I'm VERY curious about your theories, I haven't visited Malta myself, but I know people who have, and they're all baffled by the structures on the island.
Gotta say I love this series and really makes me want to get into research again
Just a small note several orders from the crusades exist today albeit so much as military orders but have more charitable functions now. The hospitalars are one of those as well as the order of the holy sepulcher who even still act as honor guard for certain church events, and the order of st. Lazarus of Jerusalem who fund hospitals all over the world. It's actually a pretty cool bit of history that i just found out recently. All that to say your content is amazing keep it up.
I don't know much about my heritage, but there's one thing that always sticks with me - the4e are more Maltese people living around the world than in Malta itself!
Cover the selucid empire. A Greek empire that stretched across the middle east all the way to India/China
I recommend watching Miniminuteman's series of debunking Ancient Apocalypse. Not only is it really informative about archeology and history, it's also pretty funny.
That's the last guy anyone should be watching. He doesn't so much refute anyone as much as he goes to great lengths to talk condescendingly towards people who's theories differ from what you read in textbooks some of which don't go as far as to even entertain what led to the development of the amazing structures at theses historical sites.
Clearly you didn't actually watch the videos, as he backs up his humor with actual facts and evidence in every point he makes. Don't spread misinformation.@@jeremiahh.3383
Lmao ill pass
Lmao Minuteman has such a hard on for hating Hancock, it's pathological.
And him being a condescending jackass consistently turns me off tremendously.
@@jeremiahh.3383 do you have a specific criticism of the way he handled a specific piece of evidence, with solid evidence to the contrary?
Another great video guys i appreciate your efforts and research
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey they end of the month came and went any word on that desk drawing? I've been standing at my computer for over 4 years because the spot I have it in for safety is yo higher for any chair in my house, I know it's unlikely I get the draw but I've been thinking about it a ton
@@jeffhough7460 the winner will receive an email this week
@@TheLoreLodge aww shucks cool and thanks again guys!
I can't help but smile everytime I see you and Wendigoon post
I’ve spent more time watching The Lore Lodge these past two weeks than I have talking to my own family 😂😂😂 love these videos
Oooh very interesting video. Amazing work - really great research put into this!
Graham Hancock's general method for dating sites is based on which way their door faces, then he goes into the charts to see where the solstice would have shone through it and suggests that's the actual date. So based on that, I'm going to have to call my Realtor because apparently my house is actually 12,000 years old and WASN'T built in 1992.
Do people build houses today to face constellations or stars? Does the natural sunrise/set line up perfectly through 3 separate windows depending on if it’s a solstice or equinox? Of these megaliths he says face constellations, which ones have evidence of being homes or houses? Grahams argument is weak but your counter is weaker.
@@billgentry12 Lol yes we do. We build houses with northern or southern exposures to ensure adequate lighting through our windows at different times of the year. We LITERALLY build our houses based on the sun's processions. Point for my argument...hahaha
@@antagonizerr I’ll ask again. And please answer the rest of my questions too. Do we build houses to face constellations or stars? I’m not talking about natural light. Do we build houses to face the rising sun on equinoxes or solstices?
@@billgentry12 I did. I think you're understanding me without actually understanding me. Build a house with...say...a southern exposure. Your door won't be facing the equinox or solstice or any "important" star tho, right? Well, if you look at the tables, you'll find a period within the last 12-15,000 years where it would have. That's because of Earth's eccentricity. That's what Graham is using to come up with his earlier dates. The ancients build structures with facings that allowed in the MOST POSSIBLE LIGHT but not necessarily face the equinox or solstice or any star. That's because walls close to 2 feet thick...construction methods not allowing for large windows, etc. they need to orient them for maximum internal lighting. HOWEVER, if you were to go into the tables, much like Graham does, their doors WOULD face either the equinox or solstice and failing that, some star or other that Graham deems they "must have" thought important. It's a bit like looking for the time 11:11 on a clock. Over a long enough timeline you'll look at your clock, and it's be exactly 11:11, and probably more than once. It's not as big a statistical improbability as you think.
@@antagonizerr bro I know what natural light is lmao. Graham isn’t talking about houses. Which megaliths that graham proposes have evidence of being houses or homes? That’s one question I asked that I want answered. It makes sense homes were built with maximum natural light. I’m curious about the megaliths that mesh perfectly with astronomy. If megaliths slowly turn the more recent they’re made, it’s just intuitive that they’re following something. I’m not saying aliens came down and helped hunter gatherers. I just find it more plausible that there was an older civilization that spread knowledge. How come most older civilizations we know all have a similar apocalypse and creation story? “Huge apocalypse, man comes and spreads knowledge, proceeds to leave” How did civilizations all around the world create similar megalithic sites? Is it just human nature to build huge stone sites that for the most part align with astronomical groups or events? Science has been wrong more than it’s been right. I’m not saying the current narrative is wrong, but we shouldn’t shut down opposing narrative without looking at them with an open mind. I don’t think there was an ancient globe wide civilization. I just think it was similar to now(advanced civies in the world but we still live alongside hunter gatherers), most advanced civies by the oceans, which would be the first to go in an event of large amounts of sea level rise. I just think a small group survived and spread their knowledge to the lesser advanced. Idk why this is so controversial when we have evidence of a mass extinction around that time, evidence of a dramatic shift in climate, and evidence of anatomically similar humans at that time. Did we just not have civilizations for 85-90% of the time we’ve been the same creatures? Or maybe a huge cataclysm just fucked everybody’s life up and we’ve been rebuilding ever since. Graham has written some wild shit in his time. That’s why I’m not 100% on his side, but he proposes reasonable questions that need to be answered. But all I see is instant dismissal, and even people calling him a nazi or white supremacist. When if you actually watch his show, he hates what the colonizers did to the natives and their structures. Attack his points not just “my house could be 11,000 years old by his logic”. We know 100% your house isn’t that old. No one’s house is. If he says “it’s off because its so old.” You have to disprove him by dating the structure. If it’s not old enough he’s just wrong, but instead I always see “you nutter no way it’s that old/they didn’t care that much about the stars/no one at the time advanced enough to be that accurate” just straight up infantilizing ancient humans.
Prior to the destruction of the library of Alexandria, the Disintegration of the Sumerian, Mesopotamian, and Ancient Greek societies, and the fall of the Holy Roman Empire, mankind definitely had amassed a massive and impressive wealth of general knowledge in the fields of math, science, astronomy, and biology, that we find to be almost impossible for them to obtain but yet they did. I find it absolutely arrogant and pretentious that our current society believes the average person today is smarter than the people of the past. If anything people are becoming dumber by the day. I believe we don’t give ancient man enough credit for there incredible achievements and accomplishments.
Every single time I watch a video that talks about the development of ancient civilizations, it makes me want to go play Civ hahaha
Also, I always headbang to your theme music 🤘🏼
After day of hunting listening to your vids while starting the cleaning and tanning process is my fav part of the week
the pic of wendigoon when mentioning giants is the best part of the episode
I *am* a trained archaeologist, and this is very good. I particularly like the defense of Neaderthals. My former advisor would go off about their public reputation, lol.
Phenomenal job as always gentleman. I can’t wait for your video on sound of freedom.
So, dude, here's yet another interest that we have in common. Ancient history.
So there's folklore, fringe missing persons cases, supernatural/paranormal.... And now ancient history. I wonder if this extends to ancient architecture.
archeoastronomy archeoacousty the alchemical secrets of the first Churches
shoutout to my bestie logan for his research on this 🙏
Oh yeah! Lore lodge! My day is made.
Where do you guys list your sources? (Great video btw!)
Aiden, you're aidin' us all. Thanks dude.❤
As a Maltese, the first time I heard about this I was absoltely baffled by the concept. But hey, we made it into another youtube video!
Your pronounciation of 'Ġgantija' is amusing, I give you an A for effort
Shoutout to Plato making an allegory akin to Icarus about getting too greedy too fast and now people are like “but where is it. I know it’s real. Where is it” girl where is animal farm hiding
He specifically says (or rather, the Egyptian priest who is telling Solon about Atlantis) that many ancient mythical stories are actually retellings of ancient historical events, like catastrophes that wiped out previous cultures. It's an odd detail to add to something he intended as a pure allegory.
There’s a guy who did some research into the eye of Sahara, a place in Africa and when you look from satellite you can see where a massive wave washed across North Africa. Probably what Atlantis was since there is a mountain to the west and there was a place with a king of the same name mentioned by Plato to the east
@@sleepyproduction7166most good stories have a shred of truth or historical basis esp when the story is meant to be a lesson or convey a message. gladiator has a historical basis but we know from the context that its a just a good story not a depiction of history as it literally happened.
Love how click-baity these titles are, knowing that when someone exposed to this conspiracy will click on this to learn more and inadvertently learn more. Big brain
I will say that I remember hearing a similar story about quetzalcoatl leaving and saying he would return but I can't for the life of me figure out from where. It can't have been from Graham because I remember hearing it years ago and I've only heard of Graham from your videos talking about him
I'm just glad I found someone who disagrees with Graham, without calling him a Nazi.
YAY!! TWO OF MY FAVORITE GUYS ARE TALLKING ABOUT HISTORY!!!!!
The other is Milo Rossie, aka The MiniMinuteMan
6:09 a wild Wendigoon appeared! 😱😨😮
A few things about Neanderthals:
- Most people who study them professionally believe that they "died out" a lot more recently than archeology as a field is currently acknowledging. There's a few reasons for this. Shaky evidence like these teeth are one reason. 18K years ago is very, very recent for Neanderthals, and they haven't really been dated beyond that, but we're still dating a lot of stuff in context. If they'd been found by somebody famous in the 1920's, we'd probably accept them as proof. Then there are pieces of evidence like that kid they found in Spain who has been extensively tested and determined to be both 27,000 years old, and half Neanderthal. There are more controversial finds on the Iberian peninsula that may be from as recently as 22k years ago. Do I believe those finds are reliable? I don't know. The information on them is pretty gatekept by the old heads of archaeology.
- I said "died out" because that's a loaded term that I don't believe is accurate. When anatomically modern humans started coming to Europe from Africa, they came in great numbers into a population that was already dwindling. Neanderthal populations were in free fall as the ice age ended, forests became plains, and ambush hunting couldn't sustain them like it could before. Humans, meeting these people, did what humans do: some got violent, some traded goods and went on their way, and some said "I wonder if I could hump that." Within ten generations, there were between nine and fifteen Homo sapiens sapiens for every Homo sapiens neanderthalensis. It was more that pure Neanderthal specimens were bred out of existence. It's sort of an old Ben/Obi Wan Kenobi situation. Of course we know them! We are them! We're not too clear on when Neanderthal traits disappeared completely, is my point.
The short version is: we have a lot of reason to believe, on a professional level, that Neanderthals existed a lot longer than we previously believed, we just don't have what modern science would call a smoking gun. I'm not sure how a half Neanderthal kid dated to 27,000 years ago isn't a smoking gun, but that's academia for you.
Your pronunciations on all the names are just ever so slightly different from what I’m used to and for some reason I find it entertaining.
what if someone 18,000 years dug up the two neanderthal teeth and threw them on the ground making them be at the 18,000 year level?
There’s still radio carbon dating that can figure out how old the teeth are
I love seeing you rep Jesus with your necklace. God bless everyone! ✝️
I absolutely freakin love this channel!!
Hello, Maltese here. if Atlantis was real, our government would have taken out 300 deals with Arabic oil tycoons in black budget projects just to resurface Atlantis to use as a tourist trap and segregate like 1/4th of it for the ministers and government officials, with the prime minister making the palace at the centre his new home, and dedicating the front courtyard as journalist target practice.
Do one on the endless Positivity of BrentlyG ... that dude could Enthuse the saddest of sad folk ...where he gets his mindset and energy is the true mystery... either that or he LOVES nosebeers
I generally agree that there probably is a lot more to pre-Bronze age human history than is generally believed, and the reason there isn't a lot of evidence for it is because a lot of it was either built with materials that degrade and/or most of it is just underwater now and/or people built on top of it. Once humanity reached the "civilization" stage of development, we tended to build places at the same spots (estuaries, river confluences, etc), so there could be all kinds of stuff buried under cities from 8,000 years ago or whatever that we'll never see because they're buried far underneath peoples' houses.
However, the idea that there was some globe-spanning civilization is an extraordinary claim to make, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
U should cover the Canadian family that went missing thirty years ago. Their last name was Park and they’re case has little coverage.
The whole Tartaria thing has just made me believe that the people who follow it are re - tartar + Tedward - “ward”
A geologoical fact to keep in mind when discussing Mediterranean civilization and sites is the entire basin is below the Atlantic sea level. Seawater flows in via the straits of Gibraltar. If there were landbridges and areas now underwater, I'm curious as to when that occurred on the geological record, if we have any clear indication at all.
I really like ur videos cuz I do watch a lot of other videos like the one u are talking about & it’s really nice to hear the other side. Please make more. I also really like how ur respectful, give credit where do & it’s not just a Roast. Thanks again & gods bless every1.
World of Antiquity is a channel with a professor who looks into these things, if you want an academic look at this type of thing. You should have him on.
Generally somewhere between east and west is my favorite sentence of the weed, and is going into my land navigation instructional plan.
Just my to cents BUT if it were Cart tracks in the rock ? Wouldn't there be a dip where the animal pulling it walked?
Linguist & hobby archaeologist here. Both of these fields are similar. I once heard a linguistics professor dismiss a well-done study by a renowned Economist that found a correlation between cultures that address future events in the present tense and the culture-wide average savings of each household. Fascinating study. The reason the professor gave? "This guy isn't a linguist; he doesn't know what he's talking about, and that just doesn't make sense." Both fields want to be taken seriously, but professionals in each field are just... ridiculous.
It's incredibly frustrating. I ripped into the professor, asking her how the field would ever be viewed as relevant or even taken seriously when they fail repeatedly to stick to the scientific method, and when they teach that IN CLASSES.
Graham has nice stories to tell it's unfortunate though that he tries to claim they're actually real and tries to prove them in a pseudoscientific manner. Just because a story is interesting doesn't mean it's real.
Claiming everyone is out to get you doesn't give you legitimacy either, neither is taking a monument and changing it's age at a whim to suit your hypothesis.
I'm no expert by any means but Graham Hancock seems to be quite widely speculative for the most part
I love how Graham Hancock goes out of his way to whine about people not believing in the ancient peoples ability to do stuff, and then promptly proclaims that there's no way ancient people could do things and it therefore must be Atlantis 🤣
Thank you for holding archaeology to the same standards as conspiracy theorists - it isn't enough to just say "nah nah can't be true" in a professional setting! (I trained in archaeology.)
Maltese has an interesting history. I just watched an OLD documentary over their falcon. Animal documentaries back then was different
But that said, I applaud you for being objective, for giving due where it is earned and criticizing where it is due. There are not many people who are able to do that 👍
loved the pic of the great wendigoon :D
Procreating with Sansuna must be like throwing a hotdog into the grand canyon.
What position......
There is also some intriguing archaeology on Menorca (the Balearic Islands) further west in the Med. Megalithic Talaiots and burial Naveta structures. Makes you wonder, if they were always small islands in a vast sea, why would people choose to settle there in favour of mainland areas with plenty of room, and more fertile soil, to carry on a successful agricultural society.
Not sure why, but I love when Aidan spills the tea on historian community drama.
After learning about Dashrath Manjhi, I simply refuse to believe the great ancient monuments couldn't be built without advanced tech
Watching this to sate my appetite while I wait for the whyfiles ep on it to come out
Omg my dog learned how to play videos and apparently loves lore lodge 😂
The Sansuna story reminds me of the Nephilim. To be clear I'm not suggesting that the traditionally accepted history of Malta is wrong. But perhaps a female Nephilim descendent traveled to Malta & myths were later made about her. Even her possible Semitic name origin supports the idea of her being a descendent of the Nephilim.
I wonder if the people who lived in Atlantis thought of themselves as Atlantians or a people from somewhere else who happened to live in Atlantis.
Imo it really seems like Plato was talking about South America when referencing Atlantis. As that's the only land mass aside from north America that is larger than Libya and Asia-minor combined and in the relative area he was speaking about.
@@Grimkeeper17 No. Not really. Plato had a habbit of making up civilizations, with complex histories in order to teach a lesson which in this case was huberus. There is a part in it, that sais that the antient Athenians were able to repell and defit the inveding Atlantis because they were so pure, had standerd mitlitary training, and no personal belongings. Plato really liked Sparta's political structure, so he based his Antient Athens story on it (In reallity Athens was not around the time when the tale is supposed to take place). The whole point of Atlantis story was that luxery bad, no luxery good. Plato belived that luxery was a bad thing, because it made people less virtues.
Plato's tellings the sory of Atlantis, specificly it's history, goas as fallowes. So back in the old day, when the gods take part of the word for themself. Athena got Athens, and Poseidon got the island of Atlantis. Thene Poseidon fall in love with a woman from the island, named Cleito, and they together had five sets of twin boys, with the oldest named Atlas (do not confused with the Atlas who holds the sky, defrent Atlas). So Poseidon started dividing the Island among his demigod sons. He devided it into 10 region, with the central region ruled by Atlas. So they sepretly ruled the Island. And they put rules up to eachother. The most importent rule was that if one of them attacks an another, the other kings, and princes have to defend the one who was attacked.This is there to keep them in line for the future. So thise 10 devin kings produced 10 lineage of kings, but the father this went on, the less devin it got. And the less godness they are, and the more human they become, and so the luxerius life style starts going up to they heads. So they try to concur the Mediteranien. They concer everything exept Athens. Athens wins that battle. Zeus notices the evil coruption of the kings and calls the other Olympians to discuss it, and to tell Poseidon to do something about it. So Poseidon responses with striking the island with a devesteting earthqueck, sinking the entair island in the proces, in one night.
24:30 - at this point you're just describing a bunch of my neighbors, though :D
This is much more interesting than that MMIW crap which nobody really cares about.
This was great. Well done. Interestingly enough, Malta is another area the Tartarians talk about. They think it was built by an advanced species and its all poured concrete. They have no understanding of its complex history and how many different cultures and peoples have contributed towards its construction over centuries to make the Malta we know today. Tartaria is really does need to be destroyed. It is preventing many from learning about real history.
have you seen the Barabar caves video, that is pretty fascinating, worth checking out
One of the problems with Graham Hancock is that he's the king of "it kind of looks like this to me, so that's what it must be". Add to that him often presenting those theories as observable fact that Big Archeology just doesn't want the public to know and I think it becomes understandable why he's so easy to dismiss. And the only willingness I have seen him show towards being wrong was dependent on him still being able to force that evidence to fit his narrative.
Does Hancock point out that there are I think 37 Neolithic temples all over Gozo and Malta?
Does Hancock mention Clapham Junction? An area near the quarry where all the stones were excavated from. There are pairs of groves cut into the rock like railroad tracks running from the quarry to all locations with megalithic structures. Archaeologists hypothesize that these tracks were used by wheeled carts to transport the rocks.
Since the British were the colonizers they named the place where all tracks converged after Clapham Junction in the London west end.
in defense of the guy who said that the boulders simply dont look man-made; archaeologists lack funding. i wouldnt waste my time and money on something that is 90% natural either. proving that its not man-made would do nothing in the grand scheme of things
Isnt "Mexica" pronounced something more like Meshica?
I am coming from a point of constructive criticism. Could you please title your multipart videos as such? I have recently picked up your channel and I am going through your catalogue and multipart videos are not identified until a bit into the video itself. Just a minor inconvenience as a viewer. I enjoy your work and find your analysis interesting. Keep up the good work Aiden^2!
I don't have the archeological lore to argue Maltese specific conditions but I would like to point out that the aboriginal people of Australia were there approximately 60'000 years ago with stone age technology and the Maori of New Zealand had legends of monsters that were later confirmed by biological remains as Giant Moa and other megafauna.
So archaic humans with a base level of technology and a capacity for passing on oral traditions is absolutely realistic, megalithic construction is very doable with enough time and manpower so building works pre 6000bc is absolutely realistic in my own opinion.
Edit: on the subject of Sirius, if you are willing to entertain completely unproven fringe ideas, a great many cultures in wildly different locations and historical periods all associated Sirius as one of the homes of "the gods who came from the sky" whichever pantheon it happens to be in that culture the God associated with Sirius teaches the locals civilisation, agriculture and astronomical knowledge. If you want to link unexpectedly complex structures with a Sirius alignment that's an interesting concept.
First of kudos for the balanced analysis and pronunciation! We have a weird tricky language with sounds extinct from modern Arabic that are not used in any Romance languages either. The only real mistakes are: "j" is always a "y"; we have two "g", a "g" (hard g) and a "ġ" ("gee" sound); gh is a distinct more-or-less unvocalised sound (the easiest is to just treat it as a brief pause so Ghar Dalam would be pronounded -ar Dalam).
Whenever I see my homeland's history, especially pre-history, mentioned in any sort of media I despair of what nonsense someone will spew to further their own agenda. You did a great job NOT doing that at all. I learned a little too, so thanks!
Some small translations people might find useful from a Maltese:
Ghar Dalam (the cave) just means darkened cave (cave dwelling was common, and even extant to a small degree in the 20th Century)
Ġgantija lit. means giants place
Gebel gol-bahar means stones in the sea
There is also a very significant site called Hagar Qim, lit. old stones
All to say, these names probably date to the Arab period, and many would be from people of the day trying to explain (and therefore mythologise) the ancient past. Think of the way Renaissance Europeans, especially Italians, viewed the Romans.
Regarding the "cart ruts" - very similar structures occur on Lampedusa, Pantelleria and I think the other small Italian territories nearby. Those are connected to Roman cisterns but as far as I know (not a historian), the rock channels to capture and direct rainwater are older. Since childhood I have always thought this the most likely reason for the Maltese "cart ruts". Water management in arid countries is certainly worth the effort to carve the upper coralline limestone in some of those locations.
Your videos are always so damn fascinating and make me miss studying history so much. What an interesting subject! Thanks for scratching my "know esoteric things" itch, as always! ❤
"People think that people before them were dumb or inferior."
Did ya'all study Latin and Greek at school? School, not college. All I know about Malta is that they are famous for their falcons and they make good chocolate covered milk balls.
Just found your channel 😀 very interesting 🤔 We have a lot to watch 😊
All archeology is conjecture. As you noted, paradigm shifts are hard to accept for established experts in the field. Sadly, the primary reason being ego rather than disputing hard science.
6:09 wendigoon jumpscare
Graham Hancock claiming historians think ancient people are stupid is rich considering his claims that ancient humans couldnt have figured out pyramids without aliens
Hancock, Von Daniken, Watkins leys, energy dowsing, the new age, halloween, all are exemplar of lying charlatans.
No one is going to take these aliens and Atlantis guys seriously until they prove something.
classics master student here, from the linguistic side of things rather than archaeological. What you had to say about the archaeological community and their shortcomings nearer the end of the video was spot on. They are far too quick to disregard literary connections, are often times quite lazy in their own research, and simply want you to respect them because of their time "in the field" (i.e. a vacation in Italy or Greece for a summer, with lots of drinking) or their degree; what is especially frustrating is when you have the same level of education as them lol. Keep on keeping on my guy, love this channel.
Academics really need knocked down a peg or a few, because Forrest gallente points out how animal/wildlife academics will know how many teeth an animal has, and read every book on what the animal does. But have never actually been in the field with these animals they claim to be an expert on.
There’s been people who live along side animals and said ‘hey they’re moving out to this area or doing this new thing’ and the academics shut them down saying they know everything there is to know about the animals
Pretty good show have to keep an open mind on all of this. One thing we can agree on the real information is being suppress Alterd withheld whatever you want to call
None of the carbon reliably dates the side, because none of it was under the rocks so the rocks could have been there a long time before hand.
It is not the date that is unreliable; it is the link between the date and the rocks.
They were built by Chuck Norris. He was passing through and after putting the Knights Hospitalier into the hospital, he got bored and built them.
Shells with holes drilled in them probably are some form of money :) known as shell money, often kept on a string