Seth, you are truly a gift to the magic community! Thank you so much for the countless hours of entertainment you provide, especially during this difficult time.
I was so glad when I found this deck, because I'm actually building a centaur tribal selesnya deck for a long while with Lagoona and Assault formation as the main punch. Your deck have given fresh ideas to improve mine. Great video!
54:48 Seth forgetting Tower defense gives reach has to be one of the most aggravating things I've seen today (I woke up an hour ago though). Could have blocked that Bone Picker so many times and saved many points of damage!
14:45 Should we have discarded the land here? Doesn't it decrease Davriel ping and give OP incentive to down tick? Dunno. Think its a punt, would rather end up discarding a land over an action card.
@@dirty_mac With Assault Formation you can pay G to make it able to attack. Plus as someone else has mentioned if you're adding blue there's High Alert.
What made you choose wg over uw by the way? At first glance it would seem like uw can present a faster clock. It gets 1 mana 0/4s instead of grazer and permeating mass. Did you try both and conclude that wg is better?
I like the utility that some of the green cards offer. Both white and blue have slightly bigger creatures (especially one mana 0/4's) but most of them are just big creatures. Permeating Mass being able to shrink big creatures and Grazer ramping offers some nice utility.
@@MTGGoldfish Blue gives you Tetsuko to prevent blocks, Sidisi's Faithful for interaction, and Dragon's Eye Savants to give information on your opponent's hand. Also, I've found Slaughter the Strong to be good. My version mains 4 copies and it's a beating against creature decks.
@@meecht85 Ooh Slaughter the Strong is a nice find. I was also thinking UG for Umezawa but hadn't even considered straight UW. Assault Formation seems like the best green card. Are you just playing High Alert & Huatli?
@@zachariahhowell4342 Yep, High Alert and Huatli. Assault Formation is the only reason to go green, and I didn't think it was worth straining the mana base when Alert and Huatli do the same thing.
In your article you also presented a bant version of this deck, but you missed out on tetsuko umezawa, fugitive from dominaria, which makes almost all your creaturse unblockable!! what do you guys think of that idea?
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 What does that matter? It means they have to get it into the bin and have enough msna to get it right back out. You can also exile their bin in response to the cast from hand. So they still have the Titan, but nothing else.
Great question! A number of reasons: 1. Flying was very relevant evasion in several games. 2. Clue tokens, while less mana intensive right away, can be more flexible overall. See (I think the last game against Cat Oven) where Seth never cracked a clue but spent all his mana every turn. 3. 3 toughness!
i run a blue green version with 20 wizards and wizards retorts,3 1 mana x/4s and a better mana base and utilize all blue creatures and thassas orical to cut threw the deck for what you need
Deck needs Militia Bugler. I realize it’s a nonbo with Honor Guard, but Guard should just be a sideboard card for inverter anyways. I think it could also use more Dusk/Dawn, maybe even a couple main deck.
Do you ever consider replaying certain decks due to the match ups you get. If like all the decks you face are somewhat similar... do you ever think about going back and replaying the deck that way you can see how it does against other types of decks? Like this vid, the 1st 2 opponents were both very discard heavy and while they were different decks, they both had a very "hand control" feel to em. (Ive only watch 3 outta the 5 matches while posting this soo idk what your last 2 opponents are)
Played this in standard and I've multiple different toughness decks but can't get them to top tier. Haha Got a version with goldnight castigater and one with thing in the ice and a jeskai build with high alert instead of assault formation, more controlly with big butt surprise payoffs
I think an opportunity was missed I think the line "Butt magic time, we are playing butts and taxes." too much maybe but from the channels previous jokes I don't think so
To be honest if I face a discard deck I would keep a hand full of spells and 1 land. After noticing these games Tower Defense isn't really worth it. Courser seems a little better or more budget friendly The birth of Maletis. Gets you a land and a 0/4.
That worst case you described would sound a lot worse in a world where wall of vines never saw competitive constructed play. Is that our world? I was drafting when wall of vines was printed but I wasn't following constructed at the time. I'd be surprised if it isn't our world though. Wall of vines doesn't look playable.
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 dindt know about the costs but ... Topter are Amazing !!! Just play 2 on turn 2 play assault Formation and than Tower in Defence!
@@eusebioalbertieri2248 imo means in my opinion. Also, thopters are cute, but better when you need a free artifact than a free creature. Without a tower defence they dont do anything, and with a tower defence they're ok at best
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 thanks to explain Well a 2/2 fly for 0 ist Amazing imo. And they work amzingly with the Spirit to make clues but are only opinipns
"We have no enters the battlefield effects in our deck." - SaffronOlive playing Arboreal Grazer
Arboreal Grazer: "Am I a joke to you?"
@@RadioSilver27 For Seth, Grazer is a 0/3 with reach
to be fair, if you're casting grazer on turn 3+ you probably don't care about the land anymore
@@RadioSilver27 I mean, yes.
He hates it so much it doesn't have an ebt
This thumbnail is actually hilarious. Probably my favorite one I've seen on the channel
I recognize the character from a show, but I'm not familiar enough with it to understand the joke. Is she actually just named Huatli or something?
@@Kryptnyt she likes butts and she cannot lie
@@Holostryker The other Belchers can't deny.
Hope he gets sued for copyright infringement.
@@robspear03 why? I feel like I've seen you being pessimistic on other videos. Are you okay?
The thumbnail for this one has to be my favorite of all time.
Mine too.
This became my first pioneer deck because of the thumbnail.
Seth, you are truly a gift to the magic community! Thank you so much for the countless hours of entertainment you provide, especially during this difficult time.
:)
"...in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except butts and taxes."
--Benjamin Franklin
Wheel Dragon That is absolutely in character for Ben Franklin.
"Give me Butts or give me Death." - Patrick Henry.
"...in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except butts"
Tina Belcher
Nyx-fleece ram plus Assault Formation. Giving the term "Battering Ram" a whole new meaning.
"Butt payoffs" is not a phrase I thought I'd be hearing today, but I guess I was wrong.
I was so glad when I found this deck, because I'm actually building a centaur tribal selesnya deck for a long while with Lagoona and Assault formation as the main punch. Your deck have given fresh ideas to improve mine. Great video!
That thumbnail is amazing... Adriano Kitani strikes again!
I love literally everything about this deck.
Gotta love the Bob’s Burgers Thumbnail
Butts... Any way great deck Seth and superb naming!
I love how seths just like “tower def, tower def kill you” then evil cackling laughter ensues 😂😂
54:48 Seth forgetting Tower defense gives reach has to be one of the most aggravating things I've seen today (I woke up an hour ago though). Could have blocked that Bone Picker so many times and saved many points of damage!
Mathieu Leduc bone picker has deathtouch
@@ianmiller8399 true but it would have died after 1 block
honestly, gilded goose is really not bad in this deck, and you might be able to also add witch's oven or gingerbread cabin.
i feel like blossoming defense and heroic intervention would go a long way
Heroic is way out of budget
Oh I am looking forward to seeing some Permeating Mass’ getting resolved!
Take a drink every time Seth mispronounces the word "arboreal"
Or rages about it
Omg this thumbnail art is giving me life!
I love that you keep asking what are we going to draw and it's always a land
Love the thumbnail art
I love that you have tina on the cover
Best Thumbnail yet!
Great thumbnail art!
I've honestly played a little Huatli in Brawl lately and she can be really fun as long as you don't run into Agent of Treachery. Lol
That is indeed a thumbnail
MassiveFoot29
Considering its name: this deck is heavy on the butts and pretty light on the taxes.
Am I the only one that wants to see an awesome non-budget Arcades(sp) deck!?!?
Whenever you mulligan, you put cards to the bottom and thus fulfill your game-plan.
Get it? :D
Everyone you said butt-fighting it made me laugh😆
Best thumbnail ever
we finally have the kaijo episode
14:45 Should we have discarded the land here? Doesn't it decrease Davriel ping and give OP incentive to down tick?
Dunno. Think its a punt, would rather end up discarding a land over an action card.
I agree. Also scooping the next turn when there are outs is... not quite a punt, but a feel-bad.
Considering how many land drops you hit the first games, I thought you’d be playing land tax
Not in pioneer or modern
it was good in Extended; when I could Fireblast my Plateaus away
@@RW77777777 urgh. That sounds orgasmic
I forgot Bygone Bishop existed that card was my fave in standard
It's surprisingly good in this deck!
Awesome! I love butts...?
Also wall of denial would be sick if this were bant. 3 mana 8/8 flying shroud
unfortunately, it has defender. Fortunately, high alert exists in bant
@@dirty_mac With Assault Formation you can pay G to make it able to attack. Plus as someone else has mentioned if you're adding blue there's High Alert.
Sadly though Denial isn't pioneer legal.
@@stephenhousman6975 Oops.
Yeah, Wall of Denial could be sweet (although it doesen't work with Huatli, might end up morphing into an Arcades deck).
Curious obsession makes it attack
This looked like a mana flood highlight reel, lmao!
What made you choose wg over uw by the way? At first glance it would seem like uw can present a faster clock. It gets 1 mana 0/4s instead of grazer and permeating mass. Did you try both and conclude that wg is better?
I like the utility that some of the green cards offer. Both white and blue have slightly bigger creatures (especially one mana 0/4's) but most of them are just big creatures. Permeating Mass being able to shrink big creatures and Grazer ramping offers some nice utility.
I do think you could build a UW version though, or Bant if budget isnt a concern (since you'll need more dual lands).
@@MTGGoldfish Blue gives you Tetsuko to prevent blocks, Sidisi's Faithful for interaction, and Dragon's Eye Savants to give information on your opponent's hand.
Also, I've found Slaughter the Strong to be good. My version mains 4 copies and it's a beating against creature decks.
@@meecht85 Ooh Slaughter the Strong is a nice find. I was also thinking UG for Umezawa but hadn't even considered straight UW. Assault Formation seems like the best green card. Are you just playing High Alert & Huatli?
@@zachariahhowell4342 Yep, High Alert and Huatli. Assault Formation is the only reason to go green, and I didn't think it was worth straining the mana base when Alert and Huatli do the same thing.
4x Grazer I'm ready for the rage
Is 22 lands too many when your curve tops out at 3 mana?
This deck looks like a pain in the butt 😂😂😂😂😂
Seth, can we see you play the Boros hammer deck on stream?
Hey Seth, how are you? what would be this deck nowadays? what can be upgraded?
Would CoCo be a good upgrade for this deck? Or are the main pieces being non creatures too bad for it?
Coco is good when your creatures have etb effects
Would an Arcades big butts deck be too slow in Pioneer?
In your article you also presented a bant version of this deck, but you missed out on tetsuko umezawa, fugitive from dominaria, which makes almost all your creaturse unblockable!! what do you guys think of that idea?
Maybe in the board
I don’t get why you didn’t crack the clue eot at 9:00
I am so confused - has matchups against Uro and Kroxa, never sideboards in Tormod's.
You cant exile in response to them casting it
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 What does that matter? It means they have to get it into the bin and have enough msna to get it right back out. You can also exile their bin in response to the cast from hand. So they still have the Titan, but nothing else.
@@PaladinLostHour from experience, the titans are actually pretty easy to loop, and putting in hate specifically for them really hurts
I like you even more after seeing that Yankees shirt on you. 👍
Seth, it would be sweet if you rebuilt this deck for Historic on Arena.
Why not Mentor of the Meek instead of Bishop?
Tokens just sit there for wrath protection
Great question! A number of reasons:
1. Flying was very relevant evasion in several games.
2. Clue tokens, while less mana intensive right away, can be more flexible overall. See (I think the last game against Cat Oven) where Seth never cracked a clue but spent all his mana every turn.
3. 3 toughness!
Love this !
Thoses forest are sick! Could it be possible to know what set they are from?
They are from Onslaught.
Since 3 CMC is the top of your curve couldn't you cut the lands down to 20?
I mean 4 lands on board and you can conceivably cast 2 spells a turn.
Love the budge
i run a blue green version with 20 wizards and wizards retorts,3 1 mana x/4s and a better mana base and utilize all blue creatures and thassas orical to cut threw the deck for what you need
1:01:50 cant you just kill him with double assault activation?
Deck needs Militia Bugler. I realize it’s a nonbo with Honor Guard, but Guard should just be a sideboard card for inverter anyways. I think it could also use more Dusk/Dawn, maybe even a couple main deck.
Do you think the deck has too much lands? Or it's jst bad luck?
There are too many lands.
This one wins best thumb nail. Butts
What would be some adds for modern
Wall of shards, axbane gardiurn and overgrown battlements
Maybe aegis of the heavens over tower defense? 3 extra "power" makin big guys, love the deck
Tower defence is to all creatures
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 ah didn't see that at first, good call then
It's not a Saffron Olive video without a game defined by mana flood.
"Let's see some butts!"
-Saffron Olive, 2020
Do you ever consider replaying certain decks due to the match ups you get. If like all the decks you face are somewhat similar... do you ever think about going back and replaying the deck that way you can see how it does against other types of decks?
Like this vid, the 1st 2 opponents were both very discard heavy and while they were different decks, they both had a very "hand control" feel to em. (Ive only watch 3 outta the 5 matches while posting this soo idk what your last 2 opponents are)
31:55 had this happen to me before. in draft and constructed. feels bad man
as much as I like Bygone Bishop, I think Mentor of the Meek might've been a better choice
Shape the Sands is the same as Tower Defense except it's only one mana!
Id go down 2 lands... It's a light cost deck and add a couple draw spells
Played this in standard and I've multiple different toughness decks but can't get them to top tier. Haha Got a version with goldnight castigater and one with thing in the ice and a jeskai build with high alert instead of assault formation, more controlly with big butt surprise payoffs
clicking on the vids solely b/c of the thumbnail.
I think the UG version is better. I mean, tetsuko umezawa, fae of wishes, dive down, omenspeaker...
Perm mass also kills anything it blocks is you have backbone.
I understand that you have to go with the family friendly title, but you gotta admit that “asses and taxes” flows much better
Hope some Ikorian stuff helps this out, with the backbone keyword and all
Yeah, hopefully get some new additions.
It's the keijo!! deck, (look it up seth)
aaand great art
I feel like this deck could play mentor of the meeks
I'd play them in the board, but we already have bygone bishop
The best Budget deck name ever?
We flooded so much here for a deck that plays 22 lands. It was super bad running.
Right from the start, "...BUTT they have high toughness."
Butt fight, butt payoff, nutter butter~ saffronolive
I like Butt and Taxes and I cannot lie
I think an opportunity was missed I think the line "Butt magic time, we are playing butts and taxes." too much maybe but from the channels previous jokes I don't think so
To be honest if I face a discard deck I would keep a hand full of spells and 1 land.
After noticing these games Tower Defense isn't really worth it. Courser seems a little better or more budget friendly The birth of Maletis. Gets you a land and a 0/4.
it's a wall though and this deck only has the assault formation to turn on defenders.
Grazer isn't bad..at best it's a ramp spell and at worst it's a blocker for fliers
That worst case you described would sound a lot worse in a world where wall of vines never saw competitive constructed play.
Is that our world? I was drafting when wall of vines was printed but I wasn't following constructed at the time. I'd be surprised if it isn't our world though. Wall of vines doesn't look playable.
@@melissagrenier2200 it's playable but better options are available and razor is better than wall of vines
Weird to me that he didnt decide to play a couple copies of the green 0/13 from eldrich moon. 🤔
What happened to the face cam? I liked it...
At some point in time I think you should have started siding out one land.
44:52 Ora Ora Ora Ora!
MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA
That's a good deck. You just had a really bad running with alll the freaking lands you drew. Mayne drop down to 21 lands
I'm a simple man.
I hear "butt-fight," I hit Like.
Sad it's not an Arcades deck, but close enough.
Seems like hushbringer would be just better than honor guard
1 i would play 20 lands..
2 i would play ornitopter
3 heroic Intervention(?) To protect enchantments???
4 Just Do It in modern with 4x spellskyte
Intervention isn't in budget, and thopters just arent good enough imo
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 dindt know about the costs but ... Topter are Amazing !!! Just play 2 on turn 2 play assault Formation and than Tower in Defence!
And also... What means 'imo"? I'm italian i didnt get the meaning :(
@@eusebioalbertieri2248 imo means in my opinion. Also, thopters are cute, but better when you need a free artifact than a free creature. Without a tower defence they dont do anything, and with a tower defence they're ok at best
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 thanks to explain
Well a 2/2 fly for 0 ist Amazing imo. And they work amzingly with the Spirit to make clues
but are only opinipns
So you can say it’s butt eg magic?
AR-BOR-EAL!
Worked well eh
Budget Magic time? Don't you mean Buttget Magic time?
:')