Welcome to the channel and thanks for the subscribe !! Yeah, there are some good channels out there. I have a list favorites posted on my channel. Check them out when you have a chance. Best of luck to you prospecting !!
Well done, that was amazing. Definitely an "A" grade project in engineering class there. Maybe one of these days I can see it in action. I'm going to do a recirculating sluice video myself here in the next few weeks. Mine is the lazy mans way that uses much more water. I'm planning to add a little flocculant at the end of the day, let the whole thing settle overnight then reclaim the clear water and dump the sludge. I'm hoping that with overnight settling I'll be able to reclaim about half the water in the system. Its not as heavy in clay as the stuff you are working. But I tried dry washing and because its fines and flat pieces,my tests show I got about 1/3 of the gold by dry washing - and even so I was getting a good 2 to 3 grams per yard. Hoping I'll get 80 to 90 % with sluicing.
Hi Chris ! Thank you for the kind compliments ! Glad you enjoyed the video. Perhaps you can apply the sand filter idea to extend the life of the water in your sluice operation ? Good idea to allow water to settle overnight. I do the same. Sometimes I muck out the sludge the evening before, so when you return the next day, there's a bit more clear water to recover. If you're finding 2-3 grams with a dry washer, can only imagine what you'll find with a sluice !! I'm jealous. Wish I had that kind of ground down here. LOL ! Definitely, looking forward to that video ! Best of luck to you my friend !
i've been using the keene flocculant in my recirculation system, that runs into a 5 gallon bucket from the sluice and the results are amazing. you can actually see that 4-5" from the bucket over flow that the flocculant is working. it has greatly increase my ability to process more dirt in a day! and yes Allen, i really like your innovation!
@@allansgoldmining ~ Allan, Keene advertises that their 'dustless' model series 160, 190, and commercial 210 'dry washers' have recovery as good as wet sluicing. Have you ever heard about the performance 'or' personally tried Keene's 160 or 190 series dry washers.??
just got in Allan ...love the new gadget ..... great idea ....would have never thought of using sand to act as a filter .....do you need a Nugget trap on the end of the shaker deck 👍 really like how you got the vibratory rate to walk the clay out ....you really need to Patent this and make them bigger ....very impressive ..... beautiful Nuggie you got there and nice pan of that Shiney and we Smashed that Like button and hit the Bell icon so we don't miss any vids ....keep'em coming sonny Jim
Thanks for stopping in Jeff, and much appreciate the kind compliments ! Them nuggies always makes me smile ! Amazing how that sand reduced the gunk in the water. Doubles the usage ! Wish I could patent the dewater deck, but already done by the Oil & Coal industry back in 1980's. Dewatering Manufacturers keep this machine's function a guarded secret, even today ! Plenty of videos, but no data. Took many months of trial and error to decode how this contraption works. Pain in the butt ! Was the hardest thing I've ever made, however, a huge learning experience. Now I'm smiling. LOL !!! Thanks for smashing that "LIKE" button, Brother !! We'll be making more vids soon :)
Sucks it’s already patented but glad you discovered a nice upgrade. I was looking forward to seeing the finished product. I’m on the same path and have a pretty similar design but yours is much slimmer and better looking. Hope to run into you out there someday.
Allan, nicely done! You have really addressed one of the most difficult challenges of desert sluicing, and that's water conservation. Having to haul every drop to your site means that every drop is precious. As you suggested, it looks like a good rig to be trailer mounted.
Thanks for the kind words and compliments. Indeed, water conservation is crucial for successful desert sluicing. What you saw in the video was a test model. The trailer version will be a refinement. Thank you for watching, and best of luck on your outdoor adventures !
Hey Bill !! Thanks for the kind compliments ! Glad you enjoyed the video. I've so busy lately that I haven't had time to catch up on Tammy or your vids. Will get there. Best of luck out there to both of you !! 🤠⚒⛏👍👍👍
You have done some amazing engineering , that took a lot of thinking, planning and experimentation and lots of hard work to develop this wash plant, Truly amazing, good job.
Hi Jason. Thanks for the nice compliments. Good to hear about you using a filtration system for you unit. Certainly extends the viability of the water. Thanks for watching, and good luck out there !! 👍⚒⛏🤠
Great job Allen, clean water is the key for the weekend prospectors .my system runs at 1/2 gal per 5gal bucket of pay dirt .ment to stop and talk with you at the last gold show but you had a large group around you at the time. I have some catching up to do. As always AZ gold get out get some .
Thanks Ralph ! Glad you enjoyed it ! That consumption rate is about right. We'll have meet sometime. I'll be speaking at the Phoenix club meeting April 1st.
Love the Unit Allan...Great job... I noticed a few things that might help your percetages.The Shaker Deck on the top is nice but your Sand Trommel would be more efficient for what you are doing. The rocks coming off the top are still covered in mud so you are loosing gold for sure. The Trommel would allow you to use higher pressure for the spray bar and keep the water from flying away and loosing it to the dessert. The other option 2 quick fixxes are to put a speed controller or adjust the angle up at the back. This would allow you to controll the spead of the material going under you wash bars. Food for thought... lol... NICE WORK
Thanks for your comments Bill. Please view my subsequent videos demonstrating the rocks are completely washed. I'm not sure what you're referring as a "Sand Trommel" ? I have many trommel videos published in the past, including a three part series on how to build one. In terms of manufacturing a viable portable wash plant for the weekend prospector, a shaker deck system is more ergonomically practical, and economical to produce. Hope to have a trailer mounted commercial prototype out this fall. Stay tuned ! Best of luck to you prospecting! 🤠⛏⚒👍
Love the new setup, looks like it's working better than ever. For doing your cleanups I recommend one of those flouting magnets for quickly and easily removing all your magnetics. What you said about putting the whole washplant on a trailer sounds like a great idea. Great video as always, can't wait for the next one. :D
Thank for watching Luke ! Appreciate the comments and compliments ! The sluice mat I use does a good job of removing a good amount of black sand from riffles. I use a "Spin-it-Off" to remove additional magnetics from the cons. Unfortunately, about a third of it is non-magnetic. So, I still get quite a bit in the pan. That's okay. I use a Blue Bowl for final clean up. Does an excellent job tackling the remaining black sand. Best of luck to you !
As a Maint Man I appreciate how much work you did to design, build, improve and maintain this project. Doing more with less is my motto in life too! Liked,shared subbed and......DING!
Excellent water consumption ratio Gallons per yard. Desert miners have to be the most ingenious miners because we have the added complicated problem of recycling water And oftentimes transporting water a great distance Making every drop count a lot more than you're say Alaskan miners where every time they dig a hole it fills up with water
Thank you for the great comments ! Yes, designing a wash plant for the desert is challenging for sure. A lot different than those in the frozen north ! Please check out my new commercial prototype wash plant called the "Gold Rattler" on my channel. It's the pinnacle of my work. Best of luck to you prospecting !
Allen, I just found your channel. I use to mine gold out of the creeks and rivers here in NC&SC. The loss of my youngest son and an operation that damaged my left hit caused me to have to give it up. On the 200 meshed; you should really check the material coming off of it as well as the mud that is caught in the other tubs! If you were to add a cone shaped top to the buckets most of the fine gold would stay in the buckets as the water over flowed the tops of the cones. I would fix it so the buckets are also vibrating like crazy to make the gold drop into the bottom of the buckets. I would raise the exit holes and add a cover over them inside the buckets and add a screen but if you make a funnel like screen then your super fine gold will stay in the middle of the buckets as the water makes its way to the holes. It is a proven fact that gold drops very fast straight down when given the opportunity! I would save all of that mud and run it on a shaker table if possible. There were a lot of plans to get bigger into the dredging but my youngest son had to have a motorcycle and he was hit buy someone and killed in 2016. That stopped everything! It has changed our lives forever! Hope I have sparked some thoughts about your set up? Stay safe and please keep the videos coming!
Thank you for your kind message. My sincere condolences on the loss of your son. Life is full of challenges. I'm dealing with elderly parents and a sick wife. We need to press forward in faith and do our best on this earth. 👍 As for the wash plant, I'm not sure if you understand how this unit functions ? I recommend watching the next video, "Wash Plant Q&A, and Chunky Gold Strike." I explain in detail some of the principles and functionality of the wash plant. Hopefully this will be helpful. Thank you for watching ! Best of luck to you prospecting ! 🤠⛏⚒👍
Thanks mate !! Appreciate your kind comments. I'm excited to get this into production someday. Maybe get a few over your part of the globe ! Thanks for watching. Best of luck to you prospecting !! 🤠⚒⛏👍
Hey Allan, Chris here, another great video you got there. Sweet little nugget too!! Thank you for the effort that you put in to do these vids, I know it's a lot of work. See ya soon.....
Allan The Master Of Gold Mining Art and a real Rock(et)scientist👍👍👍 I really appreciade your work sir👌👌👌 and Thank You for sharing the good stuff🙏. Yeehaah!!
I like it! I hope you draw up some plans i can purchase. Keep the videos come'n. I liked and rang the bell so I'll see em. Thanks much from the Pay Streak Goldpanning and Prospecting Adventures in Morristown AZ
That's a very impressive setup Allan, Great Job! That clean out reminded me of my best clean out I've ever had. But that was from only 3/4 of a 5gal bucket of materiel taken from a deep bedrock pocket. But mine didn't have any nuggets, DANG IT!!
The battle to have cleaner water here in the desert is real. If I was running ac I'd just probably throw my hands up and go bigger dry washer. Sure water is nice but yardage per cost is murder. Still fun little setup and seeing that mud filtered out is gratifying.
Hi William. I love dry washing too ! It's one of the best (and cheapest) way to test ground. However, once I find something I like, I prefer to maximize my recovery with the wash plant. If I'm going for the gold, I want all of it, not 50-60% yield from a dry washer. The another advantage is I can mine all year, as long as the water doesn't freeze. The wash plant is actually more cost effective from an operational standpoint. Cost me $6.00/ day for fuel and water. If I'm recovering 95-98% on good ground, it will easily pay for it. Sure, there's a lot more equipment involved. However, my goal is to build a trailer mounted version, thus making it almost as simple to set up as a dry washer. It's a challenge, but I think I can make it happen. Thanks for your kind compliments. Best of luck to you prospecting !!!
@@allansgoldmining Yeah not going to lie I hate the thought of leaving fines behind. I'd love to find a remote water source that no one's knows about. That would make the dream drift setup. I always wanted to try a cyanide setup but you can amagine the safety and environmental headaches.
Wow what a nice pan of gold from just 1 yard of pay. I wonder how much gold you would have lost before you made these upgrades. Can't wait to see the plant on wheels. Maybe a small conveyor belt so the feed would be more consistent? Great video!!!
Hi Rick ! Glad you enjoyed the show ! I've had other suggest the same. Will have to put that in the plans as an option. The trailer mounted version will be larger and handle more material. A small Harbor Freight size backhoe would work well with it. Best of luck to you !!
Sir, just saw your Innovations 2021 , this is a question more than questioning your methods. Why would you run the silt through your sluice without the riffles or atleast moss ? Wouldn’t it be careless of you missing any fines going out with the silt ? Thanks for your time !
Hi William. Are you referring to the sand clean up ? If so, there is no gold in that gooey clay. All was recovered on the sluice riffles during the initial run.
Hi Shaun. I don't have plans available for public. Perhaps in the future, once the patents and Trademark are completed. The wash plant dewatering deck is the most difficult unit to create. It appears simple, however, it's the invisible physics going on that makes it work. It took about 6 months out of my life to figure the secrets, because there is no data on how to build it, even though large oil and coal industries use them all the time. In a weird way, it seems as though the keep the data a secret. You can watch a multitude TH-cam videos of these in action, but no info on how it works. Ugh !! With that said, I'm not quite ready to "let the cat out of the bag" just yet, after spending a huge amount of time and $$$ figuring it out. 😊👍
Wow Allen, what a great project and evolution of your desert wash plants. Love it! I've seen those vibrators for sale and you said 90 Watts 3600 rpm. The ones I've seen don't plug right in and some are sold with a speed controller. Did you need to wire yours to plug and do you regulate the speed or is that done like you said by adjusting the weights as needed. Your ability and experience is AMAZING, thank you!
Thanks for your compliments Aaron !! Yes, these vibrator motors come with a variety of attachments. However, I use none of them. Best to plug it in and run full power. AC is best, and more durable and adjustable. It's the physics going on that you can't see that makes this dewatering deck work. Info on how to build one is virtually non-existent. The Big Boys keep it a guarded secret. It took me many months, of trial and error (mostly error), and $$$ to figure it out. It's huge pain in the a$$ to make it work right. There's a principle called Energy Balance Mechanism. Once you understand it, makes all the difference ! The new one I'm designing will be even better ! Thanks for watching !
@@allansgoldmining very impressive what you have built and the evolution. My dad and I built a recirculating unit but know where near as efficient with the water use because our claims for it are next to a river. Thus far we are not allowed to process “In the river”. GREAT work Allan!
Go for it Richard !! Glad you liked the video. Always wanted to prospect over there.. i see lots of workings coming down the 95 from the I-40. Best of luck out there !!! 🤠⛏⚒👍
@@allansgoldmining Yea Jeff Williams sent me over to you. I used to work at the gold mine he has in Searchlight. Now i'm retired and have some private property that i'm exploreing for some freinds.
@@richardbeee awesome ! Hope you find some nice shiny ! I use to be partners in a lode mine just west of Searchlight. We could stand on our tailings and see the town across the valley.
Hi Buddy ! Glad you like the video ! Wish you could have been there. I went into more detail than the video. I'll be speaking at the Phoenix GPAA Chapter April 1st, if you wan to drive down there. Thanks for the kind compliments ! Best of luck prospecting !
Good question James. I use the existing dirty water to clean the sand. Virtually all the suspended particles will fall through the deck screen (because it did on the first pass). The vibration strips the sand of most moisture. The suspended particles settle in a couple hours, so I muck out the tubs. The next day I need only to replenish a small amount of water, while recycling the existing water. The freshly cleaned sand will filter whatever particles become re-suspended. Thus saving a good amount of water.
I see you ended up going with the two motor design that rotate in opposite directions. I remember chatting with you about this. That is an amazing design you did we need to get you some Cape Disappointment sand to test it with as well
Ah yes. Let me tell you, it was a big pain in the a** to figure it out. There are no instructional info out there on how to build one. Spent many months, day, and hours trying to get it to operate. Appear very simple, however, it's what you can't see that makes it work ! Have to say it was the most difficult thing I've ever built ! And I build airplanes, telescopes, and other equipment too. LOL ! It wasn't until I stumbled across a research paper by the Chinese that revealed some secrets. The "Big Boys" are very hush-hush about their technology ! Yeah, would love to go to the Cape some day. Maybe when I get the trailer mount prototype built, we can do that ! Best of luck to you !
Allan, Keene advertises that their 'dustless' model series 160, 190, and commercial 210 'dry washers' have recovery as good as wet sluicing. Have you ever heard about the performance 'or' personally tried Keene's 160 or 190 series dry washers.??
Hi Roy. I have seen their units in action, however, the physics remain the same. Recovery remains 70% at best. Furthermore, like all dry washers, are limited to seasonality and moisture content. With a wash plant this is no concern. Furthermore, a wash plant can wash all rocks, and break up clay clots containing gold (such as on my claims). That can't be said regarding dry washers. Therefore, a wash plant remains far more efficient. Thanks for watching !
Thanks Skeets ! Dream mats are Nightmares. This mat I'm using is far superior. We've done extensive side-by-side testing with Dream, Hog and others. The Double Stack V matting (Pickle Puss) out performs handley.
Thanks mate ! Glad you enjoyed the show ! Funny you mention that. I enjoy building telescopes and airplanes too. Lol ! Best of luck to you over there !
Super impressed! If i could afford it i would have a conveyor to a bin and a big egg beater for tile grout mixing it all before discharge into your sluice through a controlled gate.
hi allen ,rick here I built your de watering trammel and it works great . Do you heve plans or a video showing how to build the dewatering shaker deck? R.A. King
Hi Rick. Thanks for your question. Some day I will make a video, however, I'm reluctant at this time until production begins. Although the dewatering deck appears simple, it's the invisible physics that makes it work. There is no data available on how to build it. The large scale companies appear to keep their engineering a secret, so it seems. I spent several months, hundreds of hours of experimentation, and $$$, to discover how these machines work. Not ready to reveal the secrets after my difficult trials, just yet. Hope you understand. Best of luck to you. 🤠⛏⚒👍
Thanks for watching. Unfortunately, DC vibrators with speed controller will not work reliably. AC at full power is best. A lot of physics going on that you can't see which makes it function.
@@allansgoldmining Thanks Allan. Just worried about synchronization of two vibrators side by side or do they try to cancel each other out ? I can go AC
love the vid. great job on the build for the shaker sluice. one question tho. i notice you have no powder/fines in your pan. admittedly fines usually take a lot to make it matter, but i think you may be losing your fines in the clay that is being discarded. might want to do a test pan or blue bowl some time to see if you are missing it. just a thought. have fun and good luck. looking forward to more videos. joe
Hi Leo. No gold in the clay or tailings. There's lots of -200 mesh gold in the pan. Camera resolution doesn't present it well. It's completely mixed throughout the black sand. If you recall, I mentioned that you can't recover these fines with a dry washer. Best to see it in a Blue Bowl. Thanks !
Allan, Thank you for mentioning that you copied from the oil industry, Also another suggestion is make the exit end adjustable, due to the fact that when the finer screens run dry they tend to break up and they become very expensive, also adding what we call a "Possum belly" at the head would be beneficial at increasing the life of the screen.
Thanks Nugget. You seem to know much about this type of equipment. I spent many months researching and testing (and lots of failure). The companies keep their technology a secret, so most of my education came from watching videos. Finally found a research paper by the Chinese that helped a lot ! Yes, the deck is adjustable. Had the end tipped up 2 degrees. Also had a weir bar on the end, but the gooey clay began to accumulate too much, blocking parts of the screen, so I removed it, and works much better. So, what is a "Possum Belly ?" Is that something that softens the slurry landing on the deck ? My slurry lands on a slick plate, so it gently flows onto the screen. Thanks so much for your inputs !
Hi Scott. Thanks for your question. I'm currently working on logistics to get the Gold Rattler into production. Once we get going, I will likely sell dewatering decks separately. Not sure on price, but guessing between $1200-1500. Please check out my current videos regarding the Gold Rattler. Best of luck to you.
Thanks for your question. It's the physics behind dry washing. Please visit my channel.. I explain it in two of my earlier videos: "Gold Mining Dry Washer, How to Maximize Recovery," and "Go Wet Young Man - Processing Desert Gold." Thanks for watching !
@@allansgoldmining lol. Yeah I seen that. Was planning on coming back after I watch more of your videos. And you answered the question I was getting to after. After drywashing. Sluice the tailings. You went into screens on your drywasher. Then sluiceing. .... If I ever get to it and get to Arizonia. I plan drywash and use my gold cube.
I'm a big fan of your setup and the upgrades. Thanks for bringing this information to the rest of us. I am curious though if you have checked the sludge for any -200 gold or have you decided that it would not be cost effective? I've been a subscriber and have watched every video. Thanks again.
Thanks for the subscribe and watching Strat Rider ! Glad to have you onboard ! Haven't panned the gooey clay, but that sounds like a good suggestion. Have panned the tails and find only a couple pieces of fly poop. The Pickle Puss matting I'm using does an excellent job collecting most all the gold, even though, no mat is 100% perfect. Best of luck to you prospecting !!
Good to see Yosemite Sam back in the game! Impressive Sir, Not sure how much you should be divulging with the coming calamity(ies) Ever heard of O'Keefe's Working Hands? LoL
you might be able to run a 250 or 300 mesh screen on your shaker deck. Also If you spray off you screen like every 5 or 6 buckets of dirt would help your shaker deck work better.
Hi David. After extensive experimentation I have concluded that 200 mesh was optimal. The large companies use 200 or less. Also need to factor durability. Finer screens are more fragile and can deteriorate at a higher rate. Thanks for your comments. Best of luck to you prospecting. 🤠⛏⚒👍
@@johnvidmar7316 thanks for clarifying. Cost of materials is about $1500 US. I don't sell the components, however, I'm currently building a trailer mounted commercial prototype. Hope to start production in about a year. Thanks !
Seems like it would be easier and much less weight to haul around, to configure SCREENS!! I mean have one large container and use finer and finer screens. This is what they do in Seattle to reclaim concrete water. They classify the rock sand, then the concrete in the water goes through a series of screens of finer and finer mesh. They get relatively clean water to reuse then they scrape the wet concrete (or what they call cake) off the screens for reuse.
Thank you for your comments. Obviously, you haven't seen my previous videos where I utilize "SCREENS" Concrete water reclamation requires massive screens, impractical for the weekend prospector. Sand is far more efficient, requires less maintenance. The level of natural clay on my claim would require constant screen cleaning in order to keep things flowing. Thus removing valuable time for the operator to process material. Keep in mind that my plant holds 35 gallons of water and pump rate of 2,000 gallons/hr. Therefore, the water cycles through the system almost every minute and 10 seconds. The purpose of the dewatering deck is to remove as much solids as possible. Without it, the tubs would be clogged of gooey clay within 30 minutes. No screen system can handle that, especially for the weekend prospector.
Thanks Robert ! The mat is called the Pickle Puss, developed by Shawn Dilley. Works excellent on fine gold up to nuggets. I prefer it over Dream or Hog mats. Here's his email: shawn.k.dilley@gmail.com
Do you classify your material at all before placing it into your machine ? - I myself run a 1/4 inch trommel and I classify the dirt to 1 inch before running it
No, I feed everything up to 6" rock. This way I maximize gold recovery. Gold tends to trap among large rocks. Classifying, reduces your ability to recover more gold. It's the same problem with the classifier on a dry washer feeder box. Granted, I don't wash boulders. Best of luck to you !
@@allansgoldmining Yep makes good sense - In my case I use a bucket classifier and classify into a bucket of water so the Bigger rocks get washed and hopefully any gold attached falls away into the bucket before throwing them away
@@mohammednovalija that's perfect ! This way you are maximizing gold recovery. Alan Robertson up in Montana does similar. He has rocks mixed with clay. Has to soak in barrel.
I have a self contained trommel, build in sluice, cork screw waste discharge, approximate 50 gallon water tank (recirculation), water pump. No filtering, sluice waste dumps into cork screw (some dewatering), waste water going back to storage and pump. Problem, water gets into pump and sprayer plugging everything, I am lucky to run 1/2 yard of material? Can you help?
Hi Tim. Sounds like the same I was experiencing, which led me down the current path. The dewatering shaker deck, along with a sand filtration system would be perfect for your system. However, to DIY build of a linear transfer dewatering deck is complicated, so I recommend building a dewatering trommel with a 60 mesh screen instead. Coupled with sand filter system you could extend the water by almost 100%, and have better fine gold recovery. I have a trommel build series and sand filter videos on my channel to help you make these items. Hope to be manufacturing dewatering decks in about a year. Best of luck to you prospecting. 🤠⚒⛏👍👍👍
Good question ! You could, however, the slightest accumulation would prevent water from penetrating, thus spilling over the edge of the bucket, or inhibit the suction of the pump. Would also require constant washing of the cloth. Been there, done that. Lol ! I tried 400 mesh screen too. Same problem. This is why the dewatering deck has vibrators, to continously shake the filtrate to prevent this from happening. Thanks for watching ! 👍👍👍
I'm building a trailer mounted prototype for future sales. Hope to have it complete this fall. I think by that time folks can come out to the claim (in NW AZ) and operate it.
Wow Allan! I thought the trommel was the end all be all, but wow have you made it easier and better. Collect that sludge and sell it to a local pottery person! Anything to recoup some costs. A 50 pound bag might pay for gas.
I know, right ? That clay might be more valuable than gold. Someone suggested selling it as facial treatment cosmetic. LOL ! I still like trommels, however, the shaker deck is more compact and easier to build, provided you have the right metal working equipment. Another advantage of the shaker deck is less moving parts and low maintenance. Best of luck to you, and thanks for watching !
I live in that exact same type of country. How do you know where to look? On Google earth I can see a huge patch of land where water has ran off the mountain for years and years, it’s a grey color of earth, I was interesting in doing a bit of prospecting and trying my hand at possibly finding some valuable rocks.
The best advice is to join a local prospecting club. Most have claims you can explore, and you'll learn from others. Another suggestion is to prospect an area where gold has been discovered. The old timers never got it all. This will save a lot of time exploring area of no value. Good luck! 👍
Very nice major changes. Looks like a very good change to the sand filter. How long does it take to set up when you aren't filming? Does the new plant take more water than your old system? It looks like you might need a feed conveyer now. Are you using silicon mats or Gold hog in your sluice? Great video my friend.😎⛏⛏🔥🔥
Hi Chuck ! Thanks for the kind compliments! Good questions. Takes me about 30 minutes to set up. This plant takes less water. Previous plant used 120 gallons per yard, this one only 65. I'm still using the Double stack V matting from Snake River Products. Seems to do an excellent job on the fine gold. Thanks for watching ! I need to catch up watch yours and a bunch of others ! Best of luck to you out there ! 🤠⚒⛏👍
Yes I have. It work quite well for a semi-permanent based operation, but not very practical for the weekend prospector. A lot of panels, batteries, and inverter to haul around, not to mention the wash plant necessities. Mining at night or forested areas might be a challenge too. Thanks for your comments. Much appreciated !
Good question. As a general rule, I do a clean out every yard. By then the filters get loaded and need cleaning because of the excessive clay out here, and I'm pretty much pooped out by then. Lol !
Hi Mark, some day I will. As soon as the patent process is completed for the new trailer mounted wash plant. Even though large commercial operators use these decks, there is no data on how to build one, not to mention the complex physics behind it. Apparently, its a kept secret. Lots of videos of them in action, but no science. It took over 6 months of experimentation and trials before I figured it out. I build airplanes and telescopes, and that little dewatering deck was the most challenging thing I ever built.. Ugh !! Not willing to share my hard earn $$$ and knowledge just yet, but soon. 👍👍👍
Yes, the trommel is slightly better, however, much slower. That's why they are 3 times larger than a shaker deck running same volume. The studs on my deck help mitigate the hard clay clumps. They are most difficult when dry, but crumble instantly when damp. Sounds like you have the same gunk I'm dealing with !
I still can't come to grips with why your fine mesh doesn't clog up. When I use a circular hand classifier at smaller than say 20 mesh , I need to turn the classifier upside down and tap it ready for the next load of material. Also , do you not have issues with grass and decaying matter clogging up the works anywhere along the line ?
Thanks for your questions Mohammad. That's the key to the intense vibration of the deck. It causes solids and fluids to dance on the screen surface. Eventually water drops through the deck while the sand dances off the end. The deck pulse frequency is 60/sec. Vegetation dances off the screen deck as well. This eliminates sprayers from clogging when water is re-pumped up to the upper shaker deck.
@@allansgoldmining Does your screen shake in all 3 dimensions or only up and down ? Or maybe up and down and left to right I am thinking about getting my backpackable system improved , but cannot utilize the sand filter - what am gonna try next is a punch plate screen wrapped in womens stocking. Is to stop grass getting into my bilge pump
@@mohammednovalija the stockings sounds like a good idea ! Especially for a backpack system. That should eliminate the vegetation issue. Sand would be too challenging to hike with. There many secrets that I didn't want to divulge in the video regarding the science of the dewatering deck. This was an attempt to protect my interests, preventing others from stealing my knowledge, then compete commercially. The large scale manufacturers of these dewating decks will not divulge the science behind how they work. Sure, there are plenty of videos and animations, but no science. I spent many months, days, hours, researching and experimenting to educate myself on this. With that said, I can tell you that the "shake" of the deck is in a vertical direction tipped at 45 degrees. How it accomplishes this, is a huge secret. All components have to function perfectly, in order to operate correctly. Best of luck to you !
@@allansgoldmining Thank You for description of your travels toward the goal of turning a desert into an oasis. My material has probably half the amount of dirt you are battling against. It seems there is only so far that you can downsize the equipment where it simply not viable for the amount of material processed in an hour - and the associated pay off.
Good question. I have rough sketches and measurements, but nothing official. Some of the features are a bit complicated. I'm currently designing a trailer mounted version for commercial sales. Should have a prototype this fall. Thanks for watching. Stay tuned !!
Allen look up Aussie bloke prospector for that vibrating sluice you will be amazed at the amount of Finegold he got. As you are hooked on vibrating why not add one more. With the right plant at the right size with his systemYou could process other people’s tailings where they have found good gold. Hope it is of interest to you. Warren
That was a great idea I would like to try something like that around here. There is so much quartz rock around here do you have any idea for a small rock crusher that I can add.
Hi Jason. I don't have any recommendations for a rock crusher. I know that Jeff Williams has reviewed a chain mill. Maybe that can help you ? Best luck to you prospecting !
@@allansgoldmining A simple small scale crusher can be made with a galvanized pipe with a cap on one side, then use a smaller capped pipe to ram inside after you put the quartz rock in. Just keep slamming the small pipe into the large one and it'll keep crushing.
Hi Lucas ! Thanks for your comments ! Will place you in line for our commercial version, once we start production. I will be a trailer mounted unit and slightly larger than this test model you see here. Stay tuned !
Allan, I just found your channel! I'm surprised at how many good channels are out there that I've still not heard of... I subscribed!
Welcome to the channel and thanks for the subscribe !! Yeah, there are some good channels out there. I have a list favorites posted on my channel. Check them out when you have a chance. Best of luck to you prospecting !!
Well done, that was amazing. Definitely an "A" grade project in engineering class there. Maybe one of these days I can see it in action. I'm going to do a recirculating sluice video myself here in the next few weeks. Mine is the lazy mans way that uses much more water. I'm planning to add a little flocculant at the end of the day, let the whole thing settle overnight then reclaim the clear water and dump the sludge. I'm hoping that with overnight settling I'll be able to reclaim about half the water in the system. Its not as heavy in clay as the stuff you are working. But I tried dry washing and because its fines and flat pieces,my tests show I got about 1/3 of the gold by dry washing - and even so I was getting a good 2 to 3 grams per yard. Hoping I'll get 80 to 90 % with sluicing.
Hi Chris ! Thank you for the kind compliments ! Glad you enjoyed the video. Perhaps you can apply the sand filter idea to extend the life of the water in your sluice operation ? Good idea to allow water to settle overnight. I do the same. Sometimes I muck out the sludge the evening before, so when you return the next day, there's a bit more clear water to recover. If you're finding 2-3 grams with a dry washer, can only imagine what you'll find with a sluice !! I'm jealous. Wish I had that kind of ground down here. LOL ! Definitely, looking forward to that video ! Best of luck to you my friend !
i've been using the keene flocculant in my recirculation system, that runs into a 5 gallon bucket from the sluice and the results are amazing. you can actually see that 4-5" from the bucket over flow that the flocculant is working. it has greatly increase my ability to process more dirt in a day! and yes Allen, i really like your innovation!
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~ Allan, Keene advertises that their 'dustless' model series 160, 190, and commercial 210 'dry washers' have recovery as good as wet sluicing. Have you ever heard about the performance 'or' personally tried Keene's 160 or 190 series dry washers.??
just got in Allan ...love the new gadget ..... great idea ....would have never thought of using sand to act as a filter .....do you need a Nugget trap on the end of the shaker deck 👍 really like how you got the vibratory rate to walk the clay out ....you really need to Patent this and make them bigger ....very impressive ..... beautiful Nuggie you got there and nice pan of that Shiney and we Smashed that Like button and hit the Bell icon so we don't miss any vids ....keep'em coming sonny Jim
Howdy Jeff🤠
Thanks for stopping in Jeff, and much appreciate the kind compliments ! Them nuggies always makes me smile ! Amazing how that sand reduced the gunk in the water. Doubles the usage ! Wish I could patent the dewater deck, but already done by the Oil & Coal industry back in 1980's. Dewatering Manufacturers keep this machine's function a guarded secret, even today ! Plenty of videos, but no data. Took many months of trial and error to decode how this contraption works. Pain in the butt ! Was the hardest thing I've ever made, however, a huge learning experience. Now I'm smiling. LOL !!! Thanks for smashing that "LIKE" button, Brother !! We'll be making more vids soon :)
Sucks it’s already patented but glad you discovered a nice upgrade. I was looking forward to seeing the finished product. I’m on the same path and have a pretty similar design but yours is much slimmer and better looking.
Hope to run into you out there someday.
Hey Adam, good luck on your shaker deck build. Definitely a challenge ! Yeah, maybe we can meet some day.
Allan, nicely done! You have really addressed one of the most difficult challenges of desert sluicing, and that's water conservation. Having to haul every drop to your site means that every drop is precious. As you suggested, it looks like a good rig to be trailer mounted.
Thanks for the kind words and compliments. Indeed, water conservation is crucial for successful desert sluicing. What you saw in the video was a test model. The trailer version will be a refinement. Thank you for watching, and best of luck on your outdoor adventures !
Please make more me and my dad always look forward to your mining adventures and you’ve helped us with ours
Thank you for the kind words ! Will definitely do that. Best of luck to you and Dad prospecting !
Thank you for sharing, Very informative and interesting.
What a great setup and works great to boot, well done and I learned a bunch here... Saves a bunch of water and good gold.
Hey Bill !! Thanks for the kind compliments ! Glad you enjoyed the video. I've so busy lately that I haven't had time to catch up on Tammy or your vids. Will get there. Best of luck out there to both of you !! 🤠⚒⛏👍👍👍
You have done some amazing engineering , that took a lot of thinking, planning and experimentation and lots of hard work to develop this wash plant, Truly amazing, good job.
Thanks for the kind words Joe !! I sort of copied you pulverizer idea for the upper shaker. Hope you don't mind ? We'll get to your machine soon !
@@allansgoldmining I don't mind at all, Glad you were able to use it
I would have been doing a happy dance! Very nice. Love that wash plant.
Oh I was Ed ! Lol !! Thanks for the nice comments. Best of luck to you out there ! 🤠⚒⛏👍
Great info! Thanks for the share, what a brilliant concept!
Thanks for the kind words Andrew ! Glad you enjoyed the video. Certainly more to come in the future. Stay tuned, and best of luck prospecting !
Great machine,your filtering is quite ingenious...I employ similar principles..Thank you for sharing..
Hi Jason. Thanks for the nice compliments. Good to hear about you using a filtration system for you unit. Certainly extends the viability of the water. Thanks for watching, and good luck out there !! 👍⚒⛏🤠
This is a wonderful contraption! I really enjoyed this video.
Thanks for the kind compliment Ian ! Glad you enjoyed it. Best of luck to you !
Great job Allen, clean water is the key for the weekend prospectors .my system runs at 1/2 gal per 5gal bucket of pay dirt .ment to stop and talk with you at the last gold show but you had a large group around you at the time. I have some catching up to do. As always AZ gold get out get some .
Thanks Ralph ! Glad you enjoyed it ! That consumption rate is about right. We'll have meet sometime. I'll be speaking at the Phoenix club meeting April 1st.
That's really a nice washplant!
Love the Unit Allan...Great job... I noticed a few things that might help your percetages.The Shaker Deck on the top is nice but your Sand Trommel would be more efficient for what you are doing. The rocks coming off the top are still covered in mud so you are loosing gold for sure. The Trommel would allow you to use higher pressure for the spray bar and keep the water from flying away and loosing it to the dessert. The other option 2 quick fixxes are to put a speed controller or adjust the angle up at the back. This would allow you to controll the spead of the material going under you wash bars. Food for thought... lol... NICE WORK
Thanks for your comments Bill. Please view my subsequent videos demonstrating the rocks are completely washed. I'm not sure what you're referring as a "Sand Trommel" ? I have many trommel videos published in the past, including a three part series on how to build one. In terms of manufacturing a viable portable wash plant for the weekend prospector, a shaker deck system is more ergonomically practical, and economical to produce. Hope to have a trailer mounted commercial prototype out this fall. Stay tuned ! Best of luck to you prospecting! 🤠⛏⚒👍
Love the new setup, looks like it's working better than ever. For doing your cleanups I recommend one of those flouting magnets for quickly and easily removing all your magnetics. What you said about putting the whole washplant on a trailer sounds like a great idea. Great video as always, can't wait for the next one. :D
Thank for watching Luke ! Appreciate the comments and compliments ! The sluice mat I use does a good job of removing a good amount of black sand from riffles. I use a "Spin-it-Off" to remove additional magnetics from the cons. Unfortunately, about a third of it is non-magnetic. So, I still get quite a bit in the pan. That's okay. I use a Blue Bowl for final clean up. Does an excellent job tackling the remaining black sand. Best of luck to you !
Very cool show enjoyed the footage and equipment
Thanks ! Glad you digged it. LOL ! Best of luck to you in your prospecting adventures !!
As a Maint Man I appreciate how much work you did to design, build, improve and maintain this project. Doing more with less is my motto in life too!
Liked,shared subbed and......DING!
Thanks for the kind words John ! Yep, I think of KISS too. Lol !! Thanks for watching and the subscribe ! Best of luck to you prospecting !! 🤠⛏⚒👍👍👍
Exactly my attitude, get it done, keep it simple!
your rock washing system is pretty dang cool.. i would like to see it run with my sluice, great job Allan, as always
Nathan, thanks !! Maybe some day we can hook it up ? Glad you enjoyed the show. Heavy pans Bro !
IT WASH GOOD VIDEO IT WAS AWESOME WATCHING ALLEN THANKS
Hey Kenneth !! Glad you liked the show ! Hope it was inspirational. best of luck to you !
Cool stuff man . Gonna head out and buy a 20’ trailer now so i can haul all these contraptions around . Seriously top job
Best of luck prospecting John !!
Excellent water consumption ratio Gallons per yard. Desert miners have to be the most ingenious miners because we have the added complicated problem of recycling water And oftentimes transporting water a great distance Making every drop count a lot more than you're say Alaskan miners where every time they dig a hole it fills up with water
Thank you for the great comments ! Yes, designing a wash plant for the desert is challenging for sure. A lot different than those in the frozen north ! Please check out my new commercial prototype wash plant called the "Gold Rattler" on my channel. It's the pinnacle of my work. Best of luck to you prospecting !
Allen, I just found your channel. I use to mine gold out of the creeks and rivers here in NC&SC. The loss of my youngest son and an operation that damaged my left hit caused me to have to give it up.
On the 200 meshed; you should really check the material coming off of it as well as the mud that is caught in the other tubs!
If you were to add a cone shaped top to the buckets most of the fine gold would stay in the buckets as the water over flowed the tops of the cones. I would fix it so the buckets are also vibrating like crazy to make the gold drop into the bottom of the buckets. I would raise the exit holes and add a cover over them inside the buckets and add a screen but if you make a funnel like screen then your super fine gold will stay in the middle of the buckets as the water makes its way to the holes. It is a proven fact that gold drops very fast straight down when given the opportunity!
I would save all of that mud and run it on a shaker table if possible. There were a lot of plans to get bigger into the dredging but my youngest son had to have a motorcycle and he was hit buy someone and killed in 2016. That stopped everything! It has changed our lives forever!
Hope I have sparked some thoughts about your set up?
Stay safe and please keep the videos coming!
Thank you for your kind message. My sincere condolences on the loss of your son. Life is full of challenges. I'm dealing with elderly parents and a sick wife. We need to press forward in faith and do our best on this earth. 👍
As for the wash plant, I'm not sure if you understand how this unit functions ? I recommend watching the next video, "Wash Plant Q&A, and Chunky Gold Strike." I explain in detail some of the principles and functionality of the wash plant. Hopefully this will be helpful. Thank you for watching ! Best of luck to you prospecting ! 🤠⛏⚒👍
Very smart by recycling your 1/8 & 1/4 filter material. Very efficient and Yeah!!!! Your going to get wet. Nice plug for Jeff. Thanks for the content.
You put a lot of work into that project, thanks for showing it.
Thank you very much for your kind compliments ! I was a fun challenge !
Sweet set-up you got there
Thank you ! Go to my channel and check out the Gold Rattler videos. It's the latest result of innovation. 👍⛏️⚒️🤠
Very nice new setup going very well and some nice gold to boot👍😎
Thank for watching ! Best of luck to you !
Great innovation mate... you are a true Prospector to the core.. always inventing, improving and overcoming, never giving up. Regards Aussie
Thanks mate !! Appreciate your kind comments. I'm excited to get this into production someday. Maybe get a few over your part of the globe ! Thanks for watching. Best of luck to you prospecting !! 🤠⚒⛏👍
Thanks for the video. Nice set up you have put together.
Thanks Dallas ! Glad you enjoyed watching. Best of luck to you !
great idea, you the man with the desert plan. both thumbs up
Thanks Justin. Having fun !! Best of luck to you prospecting ! 🤠⛏⚒👍
Awesome! Now all you need is some type of pulley operated bucket feeding system for the shaker Deck and you can run some serious yardage!!!
You betcha Joe ! One of those little Harbor freight excavators would be perfect. 👍⚒⛏🤠
Hey Allan, Chris here, another great video you got there. Sweet little nugget too!! Thank you for the effort that you put in to do these vids, I know it's a lot of work. See ya soon.....
Hey Chris ! Good seeing you out at the claim ! Glad you enjoyed the show ! That nuggie was a sweet surprise !
Allan The Master Of Gold Mining Art and a real Rock(et)scientist👍👍👍
I really appreciade your work sir👌👌👌 and Thank You for sharing the good stuff🙏. Yeehaah!!
A big "Thank You Sir !!" Glad you enjoyed it ! Getting closer to the goal of a commercial production model. Best of luck to you over there !! 🤠⚒⛏👍👍👍
I like it! I hope you draw up some plans i can purchase. Keep the videos come'n. I liked and rang the bell so I'll see em. Thanks much from the Pay Streak Goldpanning and Prospecting Adventures in Morristown AZ
Thanks for watching ! I'm working on a trailer mounted commercial prototype now. Hope to have it operating by this fall. Good luck prospecting !
Great SSM invention my brother, and portable soon.
Thanks Kevin. I'm working on it now. Hope to have a prototype by this fall. Stay tuned, and best of luck to you prospecting ! 🤠⛏⚒👍
@@allansgoldmining Sounds great
Thanks for the great videos. Looks like Lost Basin. I'm heading there soon.
Yes it is ! Best of luck to you out there ! 🤠⛏⚒👍
AL
You got some good shinney on that and that washer you did
Top shelf .. get a patten pending on that puppy..
Exxon stop Allen. I like how you make different parts and put it all together and make it work for you
Ha ha ! Good one !! Glad you enjoyed the show ! It's a small remedy for the incurable Gold Fever. LOL !
Looking forward to seeing this....
Thanks Ralph ! Good to have you with us tonight ! 🤠⛏⚒👍
Hi Chris
Good system, well done ! Looks like you may have had the rubber V mat wrong way round, though it was hard to tell for sure in the video.
Hi Jon. No, it's on correctly. This is an experimental mat called the Pickle Puss, designed by Shawn at Snake River Products.
That's a very impressive setup Allan, Great Job! That clean out reminded me of my best clean out I've ever had. But that was from only 3/4 of a 5gal bucket of materiel taken from a deep bedrock pocket. But mine didn't have any nuggets, DANG IT!!
That plant you built looks great. That's a lot of gold for only one cubic yard!
Thanks Jorge ! That nugget and picker were nice surprise !! Best of luck to you prospecting ! 🤠⚒⛏👍
The battle to have cleaner water here in the desert is real. If I was running ac I'd just probably throw my hands up and go bigger dry washer. Sure water is nice but yardage per cost is murder. Still fun little setup and seeing that mud filtered out is gratifying.
Hi William. I love dry washing too ! It's one of the best (and cheapest) way to test ground. However, once I find something I like, I prefer to maximize my recovery with the wash plant. If I'm going for the gold, I want all of it, not 50-60% yield from a dry washer. The another advantage is I can mine all year, as long as the water doesn't freeze. The wash plant is actually more cost effective from an operational standpoint. Cost me $6.00/ day for fuel and water. If I'm recovering 95-98% on good ground, it will easily pay for it. Sure, there's a lot more equipment involved. However, my goal is to build a trailer mounted version, thus making it almost as simple to set up as a dry washer. It's a challenge, but I think I can make it happen. Thanks for your kind compliments. Best of luck to you prospecting !!!
@@allansgoldmining Yeah not going to lie I hate the thought of leaving fines behind. I'd love to find a remote water source that no one's knows about. That would make the dream drift setup. I always wanted to try a cyanide setup but you can amagine the safety and environmental headaches.
Came over from the Flash Fam. Awesome seeing you last night.
Welcome JP ! Thanks for tuning in ! Was a good time last night ! Best of luck to you prospecting !
Wow what a nice pan of gold from just 1 yard of pay. I wonder how much gold you would have lost before you made these upgrades. Can't wait to see the plant on wheels. Maybe a small conveyor belt so the feed would be more consistent? Great video!!!
Hi Rick ! Glad you enjoyed the show ! I've had other suggest the same. Will have to put that in the plans as an option. The trailer mounted version will be larger and handle more material. A small Harbor Freight size backhoe would work well with it. Best of luck to you !!
Sir, just saw your Innovations 2021 , this is a question more than questioning your methods. Why would you run the silt through your sluice without the riffles or atleast moss ? Wouldn’t it be careless of you missing any fines going out with the silt ? Thanks for your time !
Hi William. Are you referring to the sand clean up ? If so, there is no gold in that gooey clay. All was recovered on the sluice riffles during the initial run.
petty you have to feed the material over the top of the sprayers good rig thanks for your presentation
Hi Allan, Do you have plans of your design I wouldn’t mind trying to make my own. Thanks again for the Videos you do. Cheers Shaun
Hi Shaun. I don't have plans available for public. Perhaps in the future, once the patents and Trademark are completed. The wash plant dewatering deck is the most difficult unit to create. It appears simple, however, it's the invisible physics going on that makes it work. It took about 6 months out of my life to figure the secrets, because there is no data on how to build it, even though large oil and coal industries use them all the time. In a weird way, it seems as though the keep the data a secret. You can watch a multitude TH-cam videos of these in action, but no info on how it works. Ugh !! With that said, I'm not quite ready to "let the cat out of the bag" just yet, after spending a huge amount of time and $$$ figuring it out. 😊👍
Sweet. Those vibrating motors would work great with my setup. 😎✌️
Perfect !! Glad to hear it ! One of these day will get to manufacturing them.
Wow Allen, what a great project and evolution of your desert wash plants. Love it! I've seen those vibrators for sale and you said 90 Watts 3600 rpm. The ones I've seen don't plug right in and some are sold with a speed controller. Did you need to wire yours to plug and do you regulate the speed or is that done like you said by adjusting the weights as needed. Your ability and experience is AMAZING, thank you!
Thanks for your compliments Aaron !! Yes, these vibrator motors come with a variety of attachments. However, I use none of them. Best to plug it in and run full power. AC is best, and more durable and adjustable. It's the physics going on that you can't see that makes this dewatering deck work. Info on how to build one is virtually non-existent. The Big Boys keep it a guarded secret. It took me many months, of trial and error (mostly error), and $$$ to figure it out. It's huge pain in the a$$ to make it work right. There's a principle called Energy Balance Mechanism. Once you understand it, makes all the difference ! The new one I'm designing will be even better ! Thanks for watching !
@@allansgoldmining very impressive what you have built and the evolution. My dad and I built a recirculating unit but know where near as efficient with the water use because our claims for it are next to a river. Thus far we are not allowed to process “In the river”. GREAT work Allan!
Looking good brother!! Thanks for sharing
Cool, first time here. Like your machine. Got some property out side of Lake Havasu.Gave me some ideas. Thanks,
Go for it Richard !! Glad you liked the video. Always wanted to prospect over there.. i see lots of workings coming down the 95 from the I-40. Best of luck out there !!! 🤠⛏⚒👍
@@allansgoldmining Yea Jeff Williams sent me over to you. I used to work at the gold mine he has in Searchlight. Now i'm retired and have some private property that i'm exploreing for some freinds.
@@richardbeee awesome ! Hope you find some nice shiny ! I use to be partners in a lode mine just west of Searchlight. We could stand on our tailings and see the town across the valley.
@@allansgoldmining We used to call our place Searchlight Heights:)
@@richardbeee wow ! Must have been an upscale neighborhood. LOL ! Our mine was west of town near Crescent Peak.
Liked the video, love your ingenuity!
Sorry I missed your presentation at last months MPA meeting.
Buddy C.
Hi Buddy ! Glad you like the video ! Wish you could have been there. I went into more detail than the video. I'll be speaking at the Phoenix GPAA Chapter April 1st, if you wan to drive down there. Thanks for the kind compliments ! Best of luck prospecting !
So at the end of your run you dirtied up your remaining water to clean the rocks - and then start with clean water the next day?
Good question James. I use the existing dirty water to clean the sand. Virtually all the suspended particles will fall through the deck screen (because it did on the first pass). The vibration strips the sand of most moisture. The suspended particles settle in a couple hours, so I muck out the tubs. The next day I need only to replenish a small amount of water, while recycling the existing water. The freshly cleaned sand will filter whatever particles become re-suspended. Thus saving a good amount of water.
I see you ended up going with the two motor design that rotate in opposite directions. I remember chatting with you about this. That is an amazing design you did we need to get you some Cape Disappointment sand to test it with as well
Ah yes. Let me tell you, it was a big pain in the a** to figure it out. There are no instructional info out there on how to build one. Spent many months, day, and hours trying to get it to operate. Appear very simple, however, it's what you can't see that makes it work ! Have to say it was the most difficult thing I've ever built ! And I build airplanes, telescopes, and other equipment too. LOL ! It wasn't until I stumbled across a research paper by the Chinese that revealed some secrets. The "Big Boys" are very hush-hush about their technology ! Yeah, would love to go to the Cape some day. Maybe when I get the trailer mount prototype built, we can do that ! Best of luck to you !
Allan, Keene advertises that their 'dustless' model series 160, 190, and commercial 210 'dry washers' have recovery as good as wet sluicing. Have you ever heard about the performance 'or' personally tried Keene's 160 or 190 series dry washers.??
Hi Roy. I have seen their units in action, however, the physics remain the same. Recovery remains 70% at best. Furthermore, like all dry washers, are limited to seasonality and moisture content. With a wash plant this is no concern. Furthermore, a wash plant can wash all rocks, and break up clay clots containing gold (such as on my claims). That can't be said regarding dry washers. Therefore, a wash plant remains far more efficient. Thanks for watching !
Have you tried the dream mat? Very good set up,, yes sir pretty good !
Thanks Skeets ! Dream mats are Nightmares. This mat I'm using is far superior. We've done extensive side-by-side testing with Dream, Hog and others. The Double Stack V matting (Pickle Puss) out performs handley.
Eureka Yeee Haaa
You definitely are a Rocket 🚀 Scientist Alan..
Thanks for sharing this..
Cheers Famo59 👍🍻⛏🤓
Thanks mate ! Glad you enjoyed the show ! Funny you mention that. I enjoy building telescopes and airplanes too. Lol ! Best of luck to you over there !
@@allansgoldmining You are a true gentlemen and God Bless you and your family Allan.
Cheers Tony
Super impressed! If i could afford it i would have a conveyor to a bin and a big egg beater for tile grout mixing it all before discharge into your sluice through a controlled gate.
Hi Thomas. The egg beater idea sounds interesting. Might reduce the gooey clay. Have you tried it ? Thanks for watch and good luck prospecting ! 🤠⛏⚒👍
pretty good little setup . Great Presentation :)
Thanks Sheriff ! Glad you enjoyed the video. Best of luck to you prospecting ! 🤠⛏⚒👍
hi allen ,rick here I built your de watering trammel and it works great . Do you heve plans or a video showing how to build the dewatering shaker deck? R.A. King
Hi Rick. Thanks for your question. Some day I will make a video, however, I'm reluctant at this time until production begins. Although the dewatering deck appears simple, it's the invisible physics that makes it work. There is no data available on how to build it. The large scale companies appear to keep their engineering a secret, so it seems. I spent several months, hundreds of hours of experimentation, and $$$, to discover how these machines work. Not ready to reveal the secrets after my difficult trials, just yet. Hope you understand. Best of luck to you. 🤠⛏⚒👍
Like a kid in candy store, thats nice set up you have 🤠
Us boys and our toys. LOL !
Excellent stuff man! Keep it up. Looks like you are into it
I'm at full throttle and heading for the finish line. Lol !!! 🤠⚒⛏🚖👍
@@allansgoldmining hopefully that potato is there waiting for you!
Yeehaw !!!
Very awesome!necessity is the mother of invention ! Do you check your tailings?
Thanks Thomas ! Yes, always test my tailings.
Hi Love your setup. Can I run 2 DC Vibrators Off one 120V to 90V variable speed drive ?
Thanks for watching. Unfortunately, DC vibrators with speed controller will not work reliably. AC at full power is best. A lot of physics going on that you can't see which makes it function.
@@allansgoldmining Thanks Allan. Just worried about synchronization of two vibrators side by side or do they try to cancel each other out ? I can go AC
love the vid. great job on the build for the shaker sluice. one question tho. i notice you have no powder/fines in your pan. admittedly fines usually take a lot to make it matter, but i think you may be losing your fines in the clay that is being discarded. might want to do a test pan or blue bowl some time to see if you are missing it. just a thought. have fun and good luck. looking forward to more videos. joe
Hi Leo. No gold in the clay or tailings. There's lots of -200 mesh gold in the pan. Camera resolution doesn't present it well. It's completely mixed throughout the black sand. If you recall, I mentioned that you can't recover these fines with a dry washer. Best to see it in a Blue Bowl. Thanks !
Allan, Thank you for mentioning that you copied from the oil industry, Also another suggestion is make the exit end adjustable, due to the fact that when the finer screens run dry they tend to break up and they become very expensive, also adding what we call a "Possum belly" at the head would be beneficial at increasing the life of the screen.
Thanks Nugget. You seem to know much about this type of equipment. I spent many months researching and testing (and lots of failure). The companies keep their technology a secret, so most of my education came from watching videos. Finally found a research paper by the Chinese that helped a lot ! Yes, the deck is adjustable. Had the end tipped up 2 degrees. Also had a weir bar on the end, but the gooey clay began to accumulate too much, blocking parts of the screen, so I removed it, and works much better. So, what is a "Possum Belly ?" Is that something that softens the slurry landing on the deck ? My slurry lands on a slick plate, so it gently flows onto the screen. Thanks so much for your inputs !
Was good chatting with you at The Boat House, cheers
Yeah, same here! Good times. Best of luck to you ! 🤠⛏⚒👍
How much would you charge for the dewatering deck 🤔 would help me in NV
Hi Scott. Thanks for your question. I'm currently working on logistics to get the Gold Rattler into production. Once we get going, I will likely sell dewatering decks separately. Not sure on price, but guessing between $1200-1500. Please check out my current videos regarding the Gold Rattler. Best of luck to you.
So the drywasher isn't catching the fines.
Are the fines blowing away or going into the tailings?
Thanks for your question. It's the physics behind dry washing. Please visit my channel.. I explain it in two of my earlier videos: "Gold Mining Dry Washer, How to Maximize Recovery," and "Go Wet Young Man - Processing Desert Gold." Thanks for watching !
@@allansgoldmining lol. Yeah I seen that.
Was planning on coming back after I watch more of your videos.
And you answered the question I was getting to after.
After drywashing. Sluice the tailings.
You went into screens on your drywasher. Then sluiceing.
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If I ever get to it and get to Arizonia.
I plan drywash and use my gold cube.
Sounds like a good plan. Best of luck to you !! 🤠⛏⚒👍
Absolutely genius idea
I'm a big fan of your setup and the upgrades. Thanks for bringing this information to the rest of us.
I am curious though if you have checked the sludge for any -200 gold or have you decided that it would not be cost effective?
I've been a subscriber and have watched every video. Thanks again.
Thanks for the subscribe and watching Strat Rider ! Glad to have you onboard ! Haven't panned the gooey clay, but that sounds like a good suggestion. Have panned the tails and find only a couple pieces of fly poop. The Pickle Puss matting I'm using does an excellent job collecting most all the gold, even though, no mat is 100% perfect. Best of luck to you prospecting !!
Good to see Yosemite Sam back in the game!
Impressive Sir, Not sure how much you should be divulging with the coming calamity(ies)
Ever heard of O'Keefe's Working Hands? LoL
Nice setup. I do dc highbankers, got some great ideas for keeping water clean! Get in touch, I do vacuum forming. Can do custom mold builds!
Hi Spike. Might be interested. My email is listed on the description page. Thanks !!
Hey Allan, great video! Can you share what the backing under the 200 mesh is? Thank you.
you might be able to run a 250 or 300 mesh screen on your shaker deck. Also If you spray off you screen like every 5 or 6 buckets of dirt would help your shaker deck work better.
Hi David. After extensive experimentation I have concluded that 200 mesh was optimal. The large companies use 200 or less. Also need to factor durability. Finer screens are more fragile and can deteriorate at a higher rate. Thanks for your comments. Best of luck to you prospecting. 🤠⛏⚒👍
Hell of a setup.
Thank you sir ! Glad you enjoyed the show. It's fun to operate !
Allen how much does the wash plant amount to when it's all put together with dewatering . The cost of the components and do you sell a complete unit
Are you asking how much does it cost, or volume rate per hour ?
@@allansgoldmining the cost of the components and do you sell a complete unit
@@johnvidmar7316 thanks for clarifying. Cost of materials is about $1500 US. I don't sell the components, however, I'm currently building a trailer mounted commercial prototype. Hope to start production in about a year. Thanks !
Seems like it would be easier and much less weight to haul around, to configure SCREENS!! I mean have one large container and use finer and finer screens. This is what they do in Seattle to reclaim concrete water. They classify the rock sand, then the concrete in the water goes through a series of screens of finer and finer mesh. They get relatively clean water to reuse then they scrape the wet concrete (or what they call cake) off the screens for reuse.
Thank you for your comments. Obviously, you haven't seen my previous videos where I utilize "SCREENS" Concrete water reclamation requires massive screens, impractical for the weekend prospector. Sand is far more efficient, requires less maintenance. The level of natural clay on my claim would require constant screen cleaning in order to keep things flowing. Thus removing valuable time for the operator to process material. Keep in mind that my plant holds 35 gallons of water and pump rate of 2,000 gallons/hr. Therefore, the water cycles through the system almost every minute and 10 seconds. The purpose of the dewatering deck is to remove as much solids as possible. Without it, the tubs would be clogged of gooey clay within 30 minutes. No screen system can handle that, especially for the weekend prospector.
Looks like Benny Hill turn gold prospector.
He was a gold prospector. Check it out .
Moves a little slower
i love what you have done. can i ask were did you get the rubber mat your using from? Regards Robert
Thanks Robert ! The mat is called the Pickle Puss, developed by Shawn Dilley. Works excellent on fine gold up to nuggets. I prefer it over Dream or Hog mats. Here's his email: shawn.k.dilley@gmail.com
Do you classify your material at all before placing it into your machine ? - I myself run a 1/4 inch trommel and I classify the dirt to 1 inch before running it
No, I feed everything up to 6" rock. This way I maximize gold recovery. Gold tends to trap among large rocks. Classifying, reduces your ability to recover more gold. It's the same problem with the classifier on a dry washer feeder box. Granted, I don't wash boulders. Best of luck to you !
@@allansgoldmining Yep makes good sense - In my case I use a bucket classifier and classify into a bucket of water so the Bigger rocks get washed and hopefully any gold attached falls away into the bucket before throwing them away
@@mohammednovalija that's perfect ! This way you are maximizing gold recovery. Alan Robertson up in Montana does similar. He has rocks mixed with clay. Has to soak in barrel.
I have a self contained trommel, build in sluice, cork screw waste discharge, approximate 50 gallon water tank (recirculation), water pump. No filtering, sluice waste dumps into cork screw (some dewatering), waste water going back to storage and pump. Problem, water gets into pump and sprayer plugging everything, I am lucky to run 1/2 yard of material? Can you help?
Hi Tim. Sounds like the same I was experiencing, which led me down the current path. The dewatering shaker deck, along with a sand filtration system would be perfect for your system. However, to DIY build of a linear transfer dewatering deck is complicated, so I recommend building a dewatering trommel with a 60 mesh screen instead. Coupled with sand filter system you could extend the water by almost 100%, and have better fine gold recovery. I have a trommel build series and sand filter videos on my channel to help you make these items. Hope to be manufacturing dewatering decks in about a year. Best of luck to you prospecting. 🤠⚒⛏👍👍👍
Would it help to put some old shirts on top of your sand filter buckets to stop some silt? Could a bag filter be placed over the pump intake? ✌️
Good question ! You could, however, the slightest accumulation would prevent water from penetrating, thus spilling over the edge of the bucket, or inhibit the suction of the pump. Would also require constant washing of the cloth. Been there, done that. Lol ! I tried 400 mesh screen too. Same problem. This is why the dewatering deck has vibrators, to continously shake the filtrate to prevent this from happening. Thanks for watching ! 👍👍👍
Yeah, i was thinking just as a temporary measure. Simple enough
On a small scale, like a mini sluice for cons, it probably work okay.
Overall, I think your wash plant is great. Where could I operate one in socal? 👍
I'm building a trailer mounted prototype for future sales. Hope to have it complete this fall. I think by that time folks can come out to the claim (in NW AZ) and operate it.
Wow Allan! I thought the trommel was the end all be all, but wow have you made it easier and better.
Collect that sludge and sell it to a local pottery person! Anything to recoup some costs. A 50 pound bag might pay for gas.
I know, right ? That clay might be more valuable than gold. Someone suggested selling it as facial treatment cosmetic. LOL ! I still like trommels, however, the shaker deck is more compact and easier to build, provided you have the right metal working equipment. Another advantage of the shaker deck is less moving parts and low maintenance. Best of luck to you, and thanks for watching !
Good job Allen . Is all that gold from 1 cubic yard ? If it is it's more than a packet of sugar lol . Look out Parker the desert gold rush is on .
Lol !! Yep, at least a pack of sugar ! Glad you enjoyed the show.. Thanks for watching. Best of luck to you !! 🤠⛏⚒👍
I live in that exact same type of country. How do you know where to look? On Google earth I can see a huge patch of land where water has ran off the mountain for years and years, it’s a grey color of earth, I was interesting in doing a bit of prospecting and trying my hand at possibly finding some valuable rocks.
The best advice is to join a local prospecting club. Most have claims you can explore, and you'll learn from others. Another suggestion is to prospect an area where gold has been discovered. The old timers never got it all. This will save a lot of time exploring area of no value. Good luck! 👍
Very nice major changes. Looks like a very good change to the sand filter. How long does it take to set up when you aren't filming? Does the new plant take more water than your old system? It looks like you might need a feed conveyer now. Are you using silicon mats or Gold hog in your sluice? Great video my friend.😎⛏⛏🔥🔥
Hi Chuck ! Thanks for the kind compliments! Good questions. Takes me about 30 minutes to set up. This plant takes less water. Previous plant used 120 gallons per yard, this one only 65. I'm still using the Double stack V matting from Snake River Products. Seems to do an excellent job on the fine gold. Thanks for watching ! I need to catch up watch yours and a bunch of others ! Best of luck to you out there ! 🤠⚒⛏👍
Well done guy!
Have you consider using a solar generation?
Yes I have. It work quite well for a semi-permanent based operation, but not very practical for the weekend prospector. A lot of panels, batteries, and inverter to haul around, not to mention the wash plant necessities. Mining at night or forested areas might be a challenge too. Thanks for your comments. Much appreciated !
How many cubic yards can you run before you have to clean out the sluice?
Good question. As a general rule, I do a clean out every yard. By then the filters get loaded and need cleaning because of the excessive clay out here, and I'm pretty much pooped out by then. Lol !
@@allansgoldmining at my clams the ground is red clay.
Sounds like you're dealing with the same stuff too. I think it's where gold can be found in the desert.
Alan please make a video on how you made your dewatering deck shown in the 2001 video thank you Tapper light
Hi Mark, some day I will. As soon as the patent process is completed for the new trailer mounted wash plant. Even though large commercial operators use these decks, there is no data on how to build one, not to mention the complex physics behind it. Apparently, its a kept secret. Lots of videos of them in action, but no science. It took over 6 months of experimentation and trials before I figured it out. I build airplanes and telescopes, and that little dewatering deck was the most challenging thing I ever built.. Ugh !! Not willing to share my hard earn $$$ and knowledge just yet, but soon. 👍👍👍
I still like the trommel over the shaker deck. Due to the really clayly ground at my clams
Yes, the trommel is slightly better, however, much slower. That's why they are 3 times larger than a shaker deck running same volume. The studs on my deck help mitigate the hard clay clumps. They are most difficult when dry, but crumble instantly when damp. Sounds like you have the same gunk I'm dealing with !
I still can't come to grips with why your fine mesh doesn't clog up.
When I use a circular hand classifier at smaller than say 20 mesh , I need to turn the classifier upside down and tap it ready for the next load of material.
Also , do you not have issues with grass and decaying matter clogging up the works anywhere along the line ?
Thanks for your questions Mohammad. That's the key to the intense vibration of the deck. It causes solids and fluids to dance on the screen surface. Eventually water drops through the deck while the sand dances off the end. The deck pulse frequency is 60/sec. Vegetation dances off the screen deck as well. This eliminates sprayers from clogging when water is re-pumped up to the upper shaker deck.
@@allansgoldmining Does your screen shake in all 3 dimensions or only up and down ?
Or maybe up and down and left to right
I am thinking about getting my backpackable system improved , but cannot utilize the sand filter - what am gonna try next is a punch plate screen wrapped in womens stocking.
Is to stop grass getting into my bilge pump
@@mohammednovalija the stockings sounds like a good idea ! Especially for a backpack system. That should eliminate the vegetation issue. Sand would be too challenging to hike with. There many secrets that I didn't want to divulge in the video regarding the science of the dewatering deck. This was an attempt to protect my interests, preventing others from stealing my knowledge, then compete commercially. The large scale manufacturers of these dewating decks will not divulge the science behind how they work. Sure, there are plenty of videos and animations, but no science. I spent many months, days, hours, researching and experimenting to educate myself on this. With that said, I can tell you that the "shake" of the deck is in a vertical direction tipped at 45 degrees. How it accomplishes this, is a huge secret. All components have to function perfectly, in order to operate correctly. Best of luck to you !
@@allansgoldmining Thank You for description of your travels toward the goal of turning a desert into an oasis.
My material has probably half the amount of dirt you are battling against.
It seems there is only so far that you can downsize the equipment where it simply not viable for the amount of material processed in an hour - and the associated pay off.
Sweet setup mate new sub here! Great video nice little picker nugget!
Hey, thanks for the sub ! Much appreciated ! Glad you enjoyed the vid ! Cheers !!
Hello, did you make plans for this or have any advice on how to build one?
Good question. I have rough sketches and measurements, but nothing official. Some of the features are a bit complicated. I'm currently designing a trailer mounted version for commercial sales. Should have a prototype this fall. Thanks for watching. Stay tuned !!
Allen look up Aussie bloke prospector for that vibrating sluice you will be amazed at the amount of Finegold he got. As you are hooked on vibrating why not add one more. With the right plant at the right size with his systemYou could process other people’s tailings where they have found good gold. Hope it is of interest to you.
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That was a great idea I would like to try something like that around here. There is so much quartz rock around here do you have any idea for a small rock crusher that I can add.
Hi Jason. I don't have any recommendations for a rock crusher. I know that Jeff Williams has reviewed a chain mill. Maybe that can help you ? Best luck to you prospecting !
@@allansgoldmining A simple small scale crusher can be made with a galvanized pipe with a cap on one side, then use a smaller capped pipe to ram inside after you put the quartz rock in. Just keep slamming the small pipe into the large one and it'll keep crushing.
Howdy Allen 🤠 love the show
Hey Sean, glad you liked it ! Thanks much for watching. I need to catch up on your vids too. Been so busy lately. Cheers mate !! 🤠⛏⚒👍🍺
Super awesome... I am with Jeff Williams on this, patent it. I would buy that one, right now, if it's for sale?
Hi Lucas ! Thanks for your comments ! Will place you in line for our commercial version, once we start production. I will be a trailer mounted unit and slightly larger than this test model you see here. Stay tuned !