It was a rumour from the begining that produsers will place Ukraine in a bad spot to avoid a chance to relocate another contest. Everyrybody was complaining about Malta in 2021, which was placed 6th, but this time was much bigger crime and obvious produsers decision to destroy Ukraine's chances to win.
People are tired of Ukraine already. They wouldnt win in any running order this year, this is not a year for them to win again. We have many good songs
@@Nash-NYC nobody ask to protect them and to put at the end. We just want a fair fight. You will never ever see that top 3 semifinal country would be placed 2nd in a final order. It has never been before, it will never be again.
Yupp, Switzerland vs. Croatia vs. France was also exactly my prediction when I saw this running order. And Austria is going to be this year’s “La Venda”.
Considering Ukraine came Top 10 from 1st in the running order in 2014, I think Ukraine will be fine. I mean, if anyone can get a good result from the very beginning of the running order, its Ukraine.
Netherlands 5th is basically giving up on them, quite surprised ! The trio Serbia Finland Portugal will feel very weird, can't have bigger contrast in songs in my opinion, but like you said that's a good thing. I was hoping Norway would be 20+ but I guess 14th after a weak song is good enough for me !
Or maybe they want the Netherlands to take as much televote as possible from the performance right after europapa, and The Netherland is a televote fav even if he's a clown
Portugal will EAT them jury points after the freakshow of Finland 😂. I love Finland but I doubt the juries will, and Portugal being so jury friendly I predict at least top 10.
I think voting from the start will make a difference this year. People are a lot more impatient in 2024 than they were 10 years ago. I think Ukraine would be fine in any spot anyway. I still think they'll be top 5 🇺🇦
I really appreciate they made it the closer. It's kind of karma for doing Teya and Salena so dirty with 1 last year. Just like I celebrated Ell and Niki winning in 2011 because Safura should have won in 2010
They did Ukraine dirty. It's no secret they're second in the betting odds to win the televote (at least atm), so this was deliberate. I'm still going to give them all my votes though.
@escunited. Hi Matt, just so you know. The Head of contest of the two last years confirmed they do not have the tele votes results to make the grand final running order.
The running order this year doesn't matter too much with the vote opening before the first song. People can vote as it goes along, so some songs might not necessarily get lost or forgotten about as with previous years
I saw Latvia coming after Ireland and thought exactly what you said people who can’t stand the Irish entry would think… ahhh relief for my shattered nerves. Thanks for the rundown.
Am I the weird kid who likes both and was delighted to see both Q? I might even vote for both on Saturday. I do agree they are great complementary opposites.
@@EmoBearRights People are too extreme and polarized these days. They can't fathom the idea that they can like both entries just as much, and that it's okay. That's the beauty of Eurovision, it's a show featuring songs for all tastes, and liking a specific music genre is not mutually exclusive with liking a completely different one.
Isn't it only fair to put Ukraine in a "bad" spot for once, since they always have great running order spots in the final? (Except 2018, when they opened) Why is everyone so mad about it🙄
because it's 3rd in the odds? You are genuinely kill a favorite for no reason (other than the war situation). It's not my favorite this year either but putting this entry 2nd, is just disgraceful
Maybe Ukraine is always performing well, that's why it doesn't deserve to be put deliberately to a 2nd spot? If it was a draw, than it would be fair, but this way it is too obvious why they did it, and it is not nice.
@@andreaslefteri3661 it's too generic imo and jury odds only not enough (cesar sampson and north macedonia for example) i think juries will go for swiss and israel
It would make sence to put a more favoritable song above a less favoritable one. Thats what they really did in the second half. But how is Netherlands not in there?! RIP
I love Ireland! 🇮🇪 I’ll be rooting for Bambi Thug! If Ireland doesn't win, we will still be talking about Bambi Thug’s performance for years and years to come. Ireland Forever! 💚🇮🇪☘🇮🇪🍀🇮🇪
I'll vote Ukraine anyway 😊 don't understand, if you have a favourite you just vote for them. And I'm happy for my country, Portugal, after being placed 2nd last year, so anything would be better than the last year. 😂😅 Hope the jury are fair and professional even with people complaining about their favourites.
I think this year is the best in the last 20 years in the history of Eurovision. As a Ukrainian, of course, I support our girls. But at the same time, I adore the performances of Croatia, Ireland, Lithuania, Italy, Armenia and Greece - each of the songs has its own vibe, unsurpassed performance and charismatic performer))) It is impossible to choose one favorite - just an epic year!!!!
Ukraine is out of luck with this draw and i think its going to be a three horse race........France Switzerland and Croatia all of whom would be deserved wiers but id just love it to be France.
@@Rash23215 The usual confusion, gender is not a synonym of biological sex. If people could understand this distinction it would solve all the world's problems...
Once, in 32 years Croatia is favorite to win, with a good reason (except for haters, which is understandable), get a good spot and some JUST CAN'T handle this! ESC fans are worst.
Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think they put Ukraine second cuz they would suffer the least from that position. Anyone supporting Ukraine would vote for them anyways
I am only 7:00 mins into the video I'm Genuinely Curious 🤔🤨 WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST 8 FIRST COUNTRIES THEN? No shade, genuine question.. what would be ideal for anyone, regardless of your favorites? Someone has to be the first 8!!
This is why I love the voting process because it's not about the music.Most of the music is crap it's all about the voting.Greece giving cyprus 12 points and visa versa, The Scandinavian countries helping each other, the slavic countries helping each other etc etc.This show is so bad that it's great to watch because of the drama, politics and bulls#%t.
Aren't you forgetting 2022? That victory was totally political and rigged. I was surprised to see the semifinal 1 opening: Foureira and Chanel should have won the contest in 2018 and 2022, respectively. The ESC has been used as a political statement for too many years now...
Just Sweden wanting to be different and making sure there aren't a lot of similar songs next to each other? But they still fucked up with that order lmao
Bjorkman has tried to create a super-final comprising Switzerland, Croatia and France. Good that he did not place more than two of his choices in a row, and I do like that he’s been kind to Cyprus and Serbia, having drawn them so early in Tuesday. I think we need to prepare for the possibility that Israel may get a Kalushian-level public score. Their televoters will be able to vote multiple times in a window of hours rather than minutes, and could well steal vital televotes from Croatia. France will benefit.
Ire was the most amazing engaging performance i ever seen in history. As the song itself on radio was not as catchy as some . but explains why the odds went from 80/1 to 16/1 .
I think with the new voting system Ireland can be the one that shocks the majority so bad they won’t even care about rest of the songs but vote Bambie instantly! And even if they don’t, doomsday blue will be remembered after all songs despite performing 10th. So it’s a win-win for Ireland this year 🇮🇪🏆 #crownthewitch
producers probably put ukraine 2nd cuz they dont want want them to win again. also that for israel, this is the first time since the producer led running order that song no2 is gonna finish good. the previous record was belarus 2014 which finish 16th and ukraine is for sure doing better than that
The average viewership for each time slot is crucial because audience numbers vary significantly based on time differences. Peak times in Eastern Europe or the Middle East differ from GMT, not to mention Australia. Australia serves as an excellent benchmark due to its diverse diaspora from every country, or do you know which country is the most accurate at picking the winner?
Ireland still a tinnnny bit early, wouldve preferred 12th or 13th, but its inbetween 2 songs with some of the worst stagings this year, which highlights how Ireland has the best. Also Latvia being a tiny bit dull (I love Hollow and Dons but it is a little bit) means viewers can digest Ireland a bit, talk about it for longer through Latvias performance. So I think winning is still an option for sure, lots of winners from around these running order spots before
Let's unite and vote massively for Ukraine - # 2 - despite the curse of second place position appointed by the producers. Ukraine deserves to be in the top 3 this year (song, staging, costumes, vocals). We should break this unfair regularity.
Voting start from 1st song. Maybe EBU want to Ukraine win from death slot 2 and show how is possible to do that ( I see Ukraine in TOP 5 both with juries and Televote)
@@ESCunited yaaa, but a decade ago EBU did not place the strongest songs at the beginning of the contest. I think the second position for Ukraine and the 6th for Israel is a big scientific research of EBU to understand how the running order affects the final results. OR, I have another theory: the EBU may simply aim to have a winner from a country that last won the contest at least 30 years ago: Croatia technically won for the last time in 1989, France in 1977, and Switzerland in 1988.
Austria is not outdated, it’s quite trendy. Just like fashion, music trends are a cycle, since 2020 70´s disco music was a trend, then 80s music, then 90´s music, then 2000´s recently, and now we’re back into early 2010´s EDM trends. So Austria is right on the trend. Iceland is not
@@decline1999 no, it shouldn’t matter, of course. It’s just that I see that argument against Iceland being used by the same people who place Austria so high. That’s all.
@@roesslyng nothing cute about putting him next to an ugly country that is actively killing people also the euro staff for that country invaded his/ and his team privacy. You are such a miserable person for this comment.
@@karinaschnabl6978so are you but at least he is a good person who doesn’t support genocide and he doesn’t deserve all the negative comments from losers like you😋
- 3-horse race imho at this point. Switzerland, Croatia and France - Ukraine, Netherlands and Italy done proverbially 'dirty'. Not surprising for me though...but it is Slovenia who is the ultimate 'filler' act this year - the clusters of Lithuania/Spain/Estonia/Ireland and Serbia/Finland/Portugal do not make sense for me... - I see UK was thrown a lifeline lol, also not surprised - fully anticipating 2 acts out of 'big 5' in last 5 spots, wouldn't be surprised if Sweden joins...it could be a good production, yet it lacks personality, I'm sorry - Miss Political Propaganda...at least I know now where to switch off the stream EDIT - after watching presser after yesterday's semifinal, Netherlands slot makes so much sense. EBU likes that bloody money way too much lol to have some standards.
I think for Estonia this is a good running order because Estonia usually does well in the beginning or in the end bad pleasing for Estonia would have bean 14 to 16 because those newer winn or end in the top
Brilliant and thanks! After Netherlands I can switch off for a few minutes while the political whitewashing song is on and then resume viewing for Lithuania and the rest. Go Portugal 👍🏽🇵🇹
Latvia s position is the perfect for me... It s literally after Bambie n before Greece,so it d sound definitely different, therefore i assume it ll be memorable enough.
I think that one of the 6 songs that he thinks that maby can win, is Geece, the number 12 is the best start position of the first half and Greece goes out after Latvia and before NO voice UKs singer aswell because the televoting starts from the very beginning, benefits its even more, that s my thoughts, My hugs from Spain, Viva Grecia y MA RI NA
RIP the Netherlands. Should've been near the end. And deffs not next to Israel again. Poor Joost. Why put him next to Israel twice? I know it's random pulls. But this makes no sence. Europapa is about uniting everyone and celebrating together. Whereas we know Isreal will only cause polarization and quite some negativity for just being there. It completely undoes what Joost set out to do. If anything, it makes me wonder how random it is? Cuz when you put the most cheerful act next to a hot potato twice, it feels like a deliberate move to counter balance the hot potato. I just worry it'll drag Joost down in the process. 🙄 Israel has an okay song. Nothing against Eden as a person. But I can't deny some strange things are happening... First Israel gets around 40% of the televotes in Italy. Winning by a huge margin that is 6x as big as their second spot. I have no issue with Israel winning televotes. But the margin seems to be way too big to be believable. Not even Ukraine had such big margins when it won... And now they get placed next to the Netherlands again. Hmm... 🤔
I kept myself sheltered from all things Eurovision 2024 until the Semi Finals - I literally have not heard the songs until the live shows. I did well ranking for my own personal tastes and for what I thought would be fan faves. But France? Okay, I got creeped out by his interactions with the camera... like, please don't boop me again. I couldn't even concentrate on the song! I like Germany so I'm surpised they're placed in a not so great position. Now I need tomorrow to go through the official videos of the Grand Final contestants and work out my ranking for Saturday's show...
I personally don't think running order is an issue this year because voting opens at the beginning of the show, for each song so Ukraine being there won't be an issue as it would've
@@user-jq7cs3ug6m Which is why a song really has to stand out and be memorable to be able to win from the earlier slots...which I think Ukraine does. I also think Ireland is that kind of song, no one will forget it.
It's not about the time of voting only, it's about the amount of people watching too. It's well known that most people with loose end towards the show appear in it after the first half or near the end.
Mucho lloro porque Ucrania actúa la segunda. En serio tanto cuesta que os informéis? Ellas decidieron ponerse segundas, les tocó el papelito que podían elegir donde ponerse y encima con ventaja respecto a los de la segunda semifinal. Dejen los lloros y aprendan a informarse.
Just bring back RNG R.O. !!!!!!!!! make it fair for everyone !!!! You cannot put Ukraine second in the R.O just because you don't want them to win !!! this is disgraceful . I dont care if there will be 10 ballads in a row as long as everything is fair
You're absolutely right. Unfo the ESC has turned into business. At times I wish we returned to the one and only night with only a little money to spend.
I was suprised seeing Joost @ 5th spot. I just feel like ESC got way to political even as much as they dont want to. It really doesnt make sence putting one of the favorites at that spot. Netherlands has always been at top 10 in the bookmakers odds.
This year i feel that everything is Open. I can see Croatia, uckraine, France and even swuitzerland winning. And would nor BE surprised if Israel win. Let's wait and see. Good Luck to all❤
I think France got the best spot, I thought they would put Croatia last but maybe it would have been too biased. Italy got cheated a bit don't think she can win now. Switzerland also got a good spot.
Problem is...I don't see any special entrance at all. Croatia will win probably and that's fine it isn't a terrible winner but let's stay real. The vocals are not that good and the staging is awkward. Let's hope we don't get another war winner that would be disappointing.
@@decline1999 if you wanted to reply to me, you didn't, you replied to yourself. Anyways. I disagree with you completely. His vocals were/are great and i like the staging. I don't know if it could win, it depends on the jury. We all know what happened last year. I don't like tattoo, i have never listened to it. It's generic and boring. All the favourites this year aren't generic and boring so I'm happy. I just hope israel won't win, now i think that's also a possibility. Which makes me angry ngl.
Probably not but I don't think they would've won anyway even if later in the running order. It's a good song and the staging is fine, not great but adequate. They just don't have the momentum and that's okay. They'll be in the top 10 and there's nothing wrong with that.
I think being in the middle is potentially the best... Eurovision is long, so there are probably families that let the kids watch until "too late" song 17 or so, and then the parents sacrifice their votes to vote for what the kids want - but now, kids can vote on their own. Kids would miss the last 6 songs.
If true music should win, then the contest is between France and Ukraine. If just crazy show, then almost anyone. In my opinion, UK and Ireland should finish as the last two ... that is not music and even no decent taste of a show ...
You know what? When everyone expects the show to be over, Belgium's Mustii will come in 27th with an acoustic version and show the world what he can really do.
@@NatteSuiker @MARCOZG3B Thanks for stating the obvious guys! I agree that it's deserved. Austria was out of tune and you might as well put a DJ on stage who presses a button and let's all rave.
The song was built up completely wrong, waiting for 2 whole minutes to climax was a choice to never repeat. The quintessence of the anti-example to follow.
It was a rumour from the begining that produsers will place Ukraine in a bad spot to avoid a chance to relocate another contest. Everyrybody was complaining about Malta in 2021, which was placed 6th, but this time was much bigger crime and obvious produsers decision to destroy Ukraine's chances to win.
Yes, I have said the exact same thing during our live shows. At that point, it was considered a conspiracy but turns out I was right.
People are tired of Ukraine already. They wouldnt win in any running order this year, this is not a year for them to win again. We have many good songs
@@ESCunited You got that right!
And fire ESC Gabe for politicizing ESC United.
That is all!!
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@@Nash-NYC nobody ask to protect them and to put at the end. We just want a fair fight. You will never ever see that top 3 semifinal country would be placed 2nd in a final order. It has never been before, it will never be again.
@@Nash-NYC I was mad at Ukraine for beating my favorite, Spain, in 2022, but this year's Ukrainian entry is one of my favorites of 2024.
I'm really rooting for Croatia, but I wouldn't be mad about a Switzerland win.
Yupp, Switzerland vs. Croatia vs. France was also exactly my prediction when I saw this running order. And Austria is going to be this year’s “La Venda”.
So... producers really want either Switzerland, Croatia or France to win.
Pretty much yes!
Yet completely underestimate that Israel is there with its SIM cards
Ireland has a good spot #crownthewitch
Italy is the only one giving winner's vibes. I hope a normal song will win,Croatia is a disaster
Loreen performed 9th last year
I agree with you Matt, after seeing France last night it has such a wow moment ....
Considering Ukraine came Top 10 from 1st in the running order in 2014, I think Ukraine will be fine. I mean, if anyone can get a good result from the very beginning of the running order, its Ukraine.
Also, Ukraine was 17th in 2018 when performing 1st. But it's all thanks to jury, who put them on the 24th or something place and tele was 7th place :(
Netherlands 5th is basically giving up on them, quite surprised ! The trio Serbia Finland Portugal will feel very weird, can't have bigger contrast in songs in my opinion, but like you said that's a good thing. I was hoping Norway would be 20+ but I guess 14th after a weak song is good enough for me !
Norway??? Italy's dead last place...
Or maybe they want the Netherlands to take as much televote as possible from the performance right after europapa, and The Netherland is a televote fav even if he's a clown
Portugal will EAT them jury points after the freakshow of Finland 😂. I love Finland but I doubt the juries will, and Portugal being so jury friendly I predict at least top 10.
Don't get why people like Netherlands song. It's literary meme song and actually pretty bad one at that.
I think voting from the start will make a difference this year. People are a lot more impatient in 2024 than they were 10 years ago. I think Ukraine would be fine in any spot anyway. I still think they'll be top 5 🇺🇦
Because the Russian people are attacking Finland‘s video I give all my votes to Ukraine and Finland from Germany.
Austria going first last year to performing last what a turnaround
We all assumed that they were gonna do that as soon as she drew 2nd half.
They are pushing them. But it will not help.
I really appreciate they made it the closer. It's kind of karma for doing Teya and Salena so dirty with 1 last year. Just like I celebrated Ell and Niki winning in 2011 because Safura should have won in 2010
Portugal will do great with Jury vote!
They did Ukraine dirty. It's no secret they're second in the betting odds to win the televote (at least atm), so this was deliberate. I'm still going to give them all my votes though.
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@escunited. Hi Matt, just so you know. The Head of contest of the two last years confirmed they do not have the tele votes results to make the grand final running order.
The running order this year doesn't matter too much with the vote opening before the first song. People can vote as it goes along, so some songs might not necessarily get lost or forgotten about as with previous years
Wonder how the early voting lines will affect things
I saw Latvia coming after Ireland and thought exactly what you said people who can’t stand the Irish entry would think… ahhh relief for my shattered nerves. Thanks for the rundown.
Am I the weird kid who likes both and was delighted to see both Q? I might even vote for both on Saturday. I do agree they are great complementary opposites.
@@EmoBearRights,me too ❤
@@EmoBearRights People are too extreme and polarized these days. They can't fathom the idea that they can like both entries just as much, and that it's okay. That's the beauty of Eurovision, it's a show featuring songs for all tastes, and liking a specific music genre is not mutually exclusive with liking a completely different one.
You know what... F Latvia bro,i might vote them. Not a bad song to be honest and since he made it so far... Why not
Isn't it only fair to put Ukraine in a "bad" spot for once, since they always have great running order spots in the final? (Except 2018, when they opened) Why is everyone so mad about it🙄
I agree
because it's 3rd in the odds? You are genuinely kill a favorite for no reason (other than the war situation). It's not my favorite this year either but putting this entry 2nd, is just disgraceful
well-said and people will vote for Ukraine no matter what.
it feels strangely deliberate
Maybe Ukraine is always performing well, that's why it doesn't deserve to be put deliberately to a 2nd spot? If it was a draw, than it would be fair, but this way it is too obvious why they did it, and it is not nice.
France in ideal position ❤ between two upbeat songs. Underrated dark horse who will surprise at the end.
impossible. no public support
@@Emrico35 but cannot deny the juries are still going to eat this up
@@andreaslefteri3661 it's too generic imo and jury odds only not enough (cesar sampson and north macedonia for example) i think juries will go for swiss and israel
I think it will not get many in televote in the same way that Ireland may struggle with juries. But either could surprise!
@@Emrico35 Like Barbara Pravi in2021 who finished second lol
This running order is... Something
Putting Ukraine second also doesn’t make sense from musical point of view - it just doesnt match well with Sweden and Germany
It's obvious they don't want Ukraine to win again because they are unlikely to be able to host.
I think it matches well with Germany personally
I think because voting opens at the start now an earlier running order is not as much of a death sentence.
Most people Is going to listen to all songs for the first time saturday and vote at the end. Being late Is always and advantage
It didn't work out this way when they used to do it.
It would make sence to put a more favoritable song above a less favoritable one. Thats what they really did in the second half. But how is Netherlands not in there?! RIP
I love Ireland! 🇮🇪 I’ll be rooting for Bambi Thug! If Ireland doesn't win, we will still be talking about Bambi Thug’s performance for years and years to come. Ireland Forever! 💚🇮🇪☘🇮🇪🍀🇮🇪
Ireland certainly stands out for me!
I'll vote Ukraine anyway 😊 don't understand, if you have a favourite you just vote for them. And I'm happy for my country, Portugal, after being placed 2nd last year, so anything would be better than the last year. 😂😅 Hope the jury are fair and professional even with people complaining about their favourites.
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Great analysis Matt! And some wise and calming words after some fan social media meltdown (again) in early hours of this morning 😂
What? Kill Ukraine in the final?
Good luck Ukraine you are strong!!! ❤️💥😢
I think this year is the best in the last 20 years in the history of Eurovision. As a Ukrainian, of course, I support our girls. But at the same time, I adore the performances of Croatia, Ireland, Lithuania, Italy, Armenia and Greece - each of the songs has its own vibe, unsurpassed performance and charismatic performer))) It is impossible to choose one favorite - just an epic year!!!!
I'm ok with Switzerland, Croatia and France as a winner ❤
Poor Joost! It would have been much for favorable for it to be later. Think putting Olly in 13 might help. Georgia in 24 is brilliant for them.
I would switch Netherlands with Finland in the position.
Okay, Europapa is not going to win. It’s between Croatia and Switzerland, surprise would be Israel.
No Will win Ireland
@@DanielCastro-ch8elireland is too polarizing. Tho you cannot vote against songs, only for. I prefer Croatia, Ireland is definitely not my choice.
Israel winning this year = corruption + politics
@@ksica But A LOT of people love the Irish song and it's got over 4.2m views. To me that means people are watching it more than once.
@@DanielCastro-ch8elDream on, Ireland will be set straight by the juries. It'd be my 26th place.
I think France should win. Serbia could be a dark horse. Croatia either first or second.
Frankrig er god.
I'm voting for Israel and France
France is 2nd or 3rd place. Strong,but not winner
I expected Italy to be put a little later, rather than 15th
Ukraine is out of luck with this draw and i think its going to be a three horse race........France Switzerland and Croatia all of whom would be deserved wiers but id just love it to be France.
The running order is almost perfectly alternating boy/girl acts (not considering gender), that must be by design.
“boy/girl acts (not considering gender)” lolwut
@@frajoladellagato i think they mean gender identity
@@frajoladellagatohe means all the zero testosterone men that we have this year
@@Rash23215 The usual confusion, gender is not a synonym of biological sex. If people could understand this distinction it would solve all the world's problems...
Looks like the ESC want Croatia to win
Im here for it .. zagreb 2025 ❤️
Or France
Or maybe the whole world 😂
@@bizcraftzonei hope 🤞🤞
Once, in 32 years Croatia is favorite to win, with a good reason (except for haters, which is understandable), get a good spot and some JUST CAN'T handle this! ESC fans are worst.
Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think they put Ukraine second cuz they would suffer the least from that position. Anyone supporting Ukraine would vote for them anyways
I am only 7:00 mins into the video
I'm Genuinely Curious 🤔🤨
WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST 8 FIRST COUNTRIES THEN?
No shade, genuine question.. what would be ideal for anyone, regardless of your favorites? Someone has to be the first 8!!
I’m not surprised about Ukraine. The EBU doesn’t want Ukraine to win again because they won’t be able to host.
If they can't host then they shouldn't participate at all
@@YaelBewfordapparently they forgot to consult with you before taking the decision regarding Ukraine’s participation 🤡
@@YaelBewford No one asked you :)
This is why I love the voting process because it's not about the music.Most of the music is crap it's all about the voting.Greece giving cyprus 12 points and visa versa, The Scandinavian countries helping each other, the slavic countries helping each other etc etc.This show is so bad that it's great to watch because of the drama, politics and bulls#%t.
Aren't you forgetting 2022? That victory was totally political and rigged. I was surprised to see the semifinal 1 opening: Foureira and Chanel should have won the contest in 2018 and 2022, respectively. The ESC has been used as a political statement for too many years now...
Tbf it's very predictable from the political statements. I love the ESC but sometimes it gives me political reality TV vibes.
Why was there so much "producers' choice" this year?
Just Sweden wanting to be different and making sure there aren't a lot of similar songs next to each other? But they still fucked up with that order lmao
@@roesslyng Hah, they couldn't destroy Finland's chances. I am sure they tried. But poor Ukraine!
Bjorkman has tried to create a super-final comprising Switzerland, Croatia and France. Good that he did not place more than two of his choices in a row, and I do like that he’s been kind to Cyprus and Serbia, having drawn them so early in Tuesday.
I think we need to prepare for the possibility that Israel may get a Kalushian-level public score. Their televoters will be able to vote multiple times in a window of hours rather than minutes, and could well steal vital televotes from Croatia. France will benefit.
1- Portugal
2- Espanha ❤❤❤
Could you please tell me, when there will be interval acts? Between which songs?
Yes, please tell us, so we can make tea and go for a toilet break. Not more naff singing I hope, since we already have singers!
Finaly they gave Portugal a good place in the final after 2 years performing in the first 3 places.
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Ire was the most amazing engaging performance i ever seen in history.
As the song itself on radio was not as catchy as some .
but explains why the odds went from 80/1 to 16/1 .
I think with the new voting system Ireland can be the one that shocks the majority so bad they won’t even care about rest of the songs but vote Bambie instantly!
And even if they don’t, doomsday blue will be remembered after all songs despite performing 10th. So it’s a win-win for Ireland this year 🇮🇪🏆 #crownthewitch
producers probably put ukraine 2nd cuz they dont want want them to win again. also that for israel, this is the first time since the producer led running order that song no2 is gonna finish good.
the previous record was belarus 2014 which finish 16th and ukraine is for sure doing better than that
People can vote from the first song. Lets goooo Lithuania ❤❤❤❤ Vote #7 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️#7
The average viewership for each time slot is crucial because audience numbers vary significantly based on time differences. Peak times in Eastern Europe or the Middle East differ from GMT, not to mention Australia. Australia serves as an excellent benchmark due to its diverse diaspora from every country, or do you know which country is the most accurate at picking the winner?
Ireland still a tinnnny bit early, wouldve preferred 12th or 13th, but its inbetween 2 songs with some of the worst stagings this year, which highlights how Ireland has the best.
Also Latvia being a tiny bit dull (I love Hollow and Dons but it is a little bit) means viewers can digest Ireland a bit, talk about it for longer through Latvias performance.
So I think winning is still an option for sure, lots of winners from around these running order spots before
With voting open at the start of the show, won't that completely change everything? Maybe it's not so bad anymore to be at the start.
Det bedste og mest fair er at trække lod. Tag sedler op hvor landene står på.
Let's unite and vote massively for Ukraine - # 2 - despite the curse of second place position appointed by the producers. Ukraine deserves to be in the top 3 this year (song, staging, costumes, vocals). We should break this unfair regularity.
….Israel song is the best!…Ukraine the second best…and Portugal can repeat victory of 2017
Matt the super cutie! 😍🥰
Voting start from 1st song. Maybe EBU want to Ukraine win from death slot 2 and show how is possible to do that ( I see Ukraine in TOP 5 both with juries and Televote)
We had voting from the beginning about a decade ago. It had very little impact back then we'll have to see if is going to change.
We will see in final. When MF (Melodifestivalen)have voting from first song in final in 2002,2003, both winner sing 1st in final.
I don’t understand what you’re saying. EBU put Ukraine there, so clearly they don’t want Ukraine to win.
@@ESCunitedThey didn't use apps back then. With app, it is too easy to vote while songs come up.
@@ESCunited yaaa, but a decade ago EBU did not place the strongest songs at the beginning of the contest. I think the second position for Ukraine and the 6th for Israel is a big scientific research of EBU to understand how the running order affects the final results. OR, I have another theory: the EBU may simply aim to have a winner from a country that last won the contest at least 30 years ago: Croatia technically won for the last time in 1989, France in 1977, and Switzerland in 1988.
Hey the video is without sound, RE-EDIT: have sound again ❤
There might be now. there may be a slight YT delay. I can hear it.
It's working now
@ESCunited yes thanks 🙏🏻
One thing that baffles me is people saying that Iceland was outdated while ignoring that Austria is also outdated.
I think it depends on if that’s deliberate or not. Austria’s is obviously intentional, but I don’t think Iceland’s.
Croatia is also outdated. Doesn't really matter. People like what others like or they first impression about something.
Austria is not outdated, it’s quite trendy. Just like fashion, music trends are a cycle, since 2020 70´s disco music was a trend, then 80s music, then 90´s music, then 2000´s recently, and now we’re back into early 2010´s EDM trends. So Austria is right on the trend. Iceland is not
@@SaraSun-vz1dw you’re totally wrong.
@@decline1999 no, it shouldn’t matter, of course. It’s just that I see that argument against Iceland being used by the same people who place Austria so high. That’s all.
they did Joost soo dirty😭
As they should
@@roesslyng it’s giving loser and miserable
Because he is a clown.
@@roesslyng nothing cute about putting him next to an ugly country that is actively killing people also the euro staff for that country invaded his/ and his team privacy. You are such a miserable person for this comment.
@@karinaschnabl6978so are you but at least he is a good person who doesn’t support genocide and he doesn’t deserve all the negative comments from losers like you😋
As long as I have two balkans in last 6 spots I’m happy!
Switzerland might do the first win in position 21
- 3-horse race imho at this point. Switzerland, Croatia and France
- Ukraine, Netherlands and Italy done proverbially 'dirty'. Not surprising for me though...but it is Slovenia who is the ultimate 'filler' act this year
- the clusters of Lithuania/Spain/Estonia/Ireland and Serbia/Finland/Portugal do not make sense for me...
- I see UK was thrown a lifeline lol, also not surprised
- fully anticipating 2 acts out of 'big 5' in last 5 spots, wouldn't be surprised if Sweden joins...it could be a good production, yet it lacks personality, I'm sorry
- Miss Political Propaganda...at least I know now where to switch off the stream
EDIT - after watching presser after yesterday's semifinal, Netherlands slot makes so much sense. EBU likes that bloody money way too much lol to have some standards.
What did you mean in the last sentence?
Fair, just don't miss Lithuania right afterwards 💚🇱🇹
@@magnolia9562Israel being 6th on the running order
Portugal ❤❤❤goo Iolanda
I think for Estonia this is a good running order because Estonia usually does well in the beginning or in the end bad pleasing for Estonia would have bean 14 to 16 because those newer winn or end in the top
Go Croatia 🤟🇭🇷♥️
Brilliant and thanks! After Netherlands I can switch off for a few minutes while the political whitewashing song is on and then resume viewing for Lithuania and the rest. Go Portugal 👍🏽🇵🇹
Ireland. Unforgettable ❤
Latvia s position is the perfect for me... It s literally after Bambie n before Greece,so it d sound definitely different, therefore i assume it ll be memorable enough.
Voting in the final will be open before the first song performs. Anyone can pull it off
We....Austria .....opend last year and this year we close! Perfect!😁😁
I think that one of the 6 songs that he thinks that maby can win, is Geece, the number 12 is the best start position of the first half and Greece goes out after Latvia and before NO voice UKs singer aswell because the televoting starts from the very beginning, benefits its even more, that s my thoughts, My hugs from Spain, Viva Grecia y MA RI NA
Ireland are the stand out for me.
They did Joost dirty to put him so early. I hoped in the middle (or in the back but that’s because it’s my favorite)
Portugal 🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
RIP the Netherlands. Should've been near the end. And deffs not next to Israel again. Poor Joost. Why put him next to Israel twice? I know it's random pulls. But this makes no sence. Europapa is about uniting everyone and celebrating together. Whereas we know Isreal will only cause polarization and quite some negativity for just being there. It completely undoes what Joost set out to do. If anything, it makes me wonder how random it is? Cuz when you put the most cheerful act next to a hot potato twice, it feels like a deliberate move to counter balance the hot potato. I just worry it'll drag Joost down in the process. 🙄
Israel has an okay song. Nothing against Eden as a person. But I can't deny some strange things are happening... First Israel gets around 40% of the televotes in Italy. Winning by a huge margin that is 6x as big as their second spot. I have no issue with Israel winning televotes. But the margin seems to be way too big to be believable. Not even Ukraine had such big margins when it won... And now they get placed next to the Netherlands again. Hmm... 🤔
germany will not be happy with 3 🥹🙏🏻 i can totally see france winnig ..performance was just stunning 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I am voting for Israel and France. Quality music above all.
I have a question……does anybody know how many votes equals one given point?
Love Serbia ❤❤❤❤
I kept myself sheltered from all things Eurovision 2024 until the Semi Finals - I literally have not heard the songs until the live shows. I did well ranking for my own personal tastes and for what I thought would be fan faves. But France? Okay, I got creeped out by his interactions with the camera... like, please don't boop me again. I couldn't even concentrate on the song! I like Germany so I'm surpised they're placed in a not so great position. Now I need tomorrow to go through the official videos of the Grand Final contestants and work out my ranking for Saturday's show...
I personally don't think running order is an issue this year because voting opens at the beginning of the show, for each song so Ukraine being there won't be an issue as it would've
@@user-jq7cs3ug6m Which is why a song really has to stand out and be memorable to be able to win from the earlier slots...which I think Ukraine does. I also think Ireland is that kind of song, no one will forget it.
It's not about the time of voting only, it's about the amount of people watching too. It's well known that most people with loose end towards the show appear in it after the first half or near the end.
@@user-jq7cs3ug6m The younger ones with short attention spans also forget...
Mucho lloro porque Ucrania actúa la segunda. En serio tanto cuesta que os informéis? Ellas decidieron ponerse segundas, les tocó el papelito que podían elegir donde ponerse y encima con ventaja respecto a los de la segunda semifinal. Dejen los lloros y aprendan a informarse.
Funny how the baltics got the Eurovision dates: 7, 9 and 11
I don't get it
@@andreaslefteri3661 running orders for Latvia Estonia and Lithuania are same as the days of this year’s Eurovision semi-finals and final :)
Oh hahahah
@@FeeESC what am i missing here?
That was absolutely coincidental, but interesting nevertheless :)
I DO have sound!
De får ikke min stemme. Det er en sangkonkurrencen og ikke en sympatikonkurrence.
They did Gåte dirty. 😢
Just bring back RNG R.O. !!!!!!!!! make it fair for everyone !!!! You cannot put Ukraine second in the R.O just because you don't want them to win !!! this is disgraceful . I dont care if there will be 10 ballads in a row as long as everything is fair
You're absolutely right. Unfo the ESC has turned into business. At times I wish we returned to the one and only night with only a little money to spend.
Dream scenario for me is Switzerland, Croatia and Norway at the end
Norway dead last in the Italian televote.
I would add Slovenia after ... all 4 are so diverse and have good vocals, that's what I like
I was suprised seeing Joost @ 5th spot. I just feel like ESC got way to political even as much as they dont want to. It really doesnt make sence putting one of the favorites at that spot.
Netherlands has always been at top 10 in the bookmakers odds.
Won’t be watching goodbye
This year i feel that everything is Open. I can see Croatia, uckraine, France and even swuitzerland winning. And would nor BE surprised if Israel win. Let's wait and see. Good Luck to all❤
You can vote from the beginning of the show so does the order really matter
They did that in a past and it didnt affect too much. Hope it stays like that. Zagreb 2025 ❤
COME ON OLLY! ❤🇬🇧
I think France got the best spot, I thought they would put Croatia last but maybe it would have been too biased. Italy got cheated a bit don't think she can win now. Switzerland also got a good spot.
Bye Bye fair Competition 🙄🙄
Why don’t the producers choose the winning song??
Can Italy win it? I personally don't see it tbh and that running order confirms it.
I don't think so. It was performed well but there was nothing special about it.
Problem is...I don't see any special entrance at all. Croatia will win probably and that's fine it isn't a terrible winner but let's stay real. The vocals are not that good and the staging is awkward. Let's hope we don't get another war winner that would be disappointing.
@@decline1999 if you wanted to reply to me, you didn't, you replied to yourself. Anyways.
I disagree with you completely. His vocals were/are great and i like the staging. I don't know if it could win, it depends on the jury. We all know what happened last year. I don't like tattoo, i have never listened to it. It's generic and boring. All the favourites this year aren't generic and boring so I'm happy. I just hope israel won't win, now i think that's also a possibility. Which makes me angry ngl.
Probably not but I don't think they would've won anyway even if later in the running order. It's a good song and the staging is fine, not great but adequate. They just don't have the momentum and that's okay. They'll be in the top 10 and there's nothing wrong with that.
I think being in the middle is potentially the best... Eurovision is long, so there are probably families that let the kids watch until "too late" song 17 or so, and then the parents sacrifice their votes to vote for what the kids want - but now, kids can vote on their own. Kids would miss the last 6 songs.
Slovenija ❤❤❤
How Israel got through is beyond me.
I've never been so angry at a running order
Genuinely curious, what would be ideal?
If true music should win, then the contest is between France and Ukraine. If just crazy show, then almost anyone.
In my opinion, UK and Ireland should finish as the last two ... that is not music and even no decent taste of a show ...
Russia has politicized the ESC 2024 therefore I give all my votes to Ukraine and Finland, no matter in which place they are.
Who da fuck put Ukraine, Netherlands and Israel that early when they are still in Talks to win
Weird placements..
Definitely not innocent
You know what? When everyone expects the show to be over, Belgium's Mustii will come in 27th with an acoustic version and show the world what he can really do.
He had one chance, just like everyone else.
He messed up, end of story.
He didn’t qualify. Get over it.
Song was great, staging was dull. It’s a pitty they didn’t qualify though
@@NatteSuiker @MARCOZG3B Thanks for stating the obvious guys! I agree that it's deserved. Austria was out of tune and you might as well put a DJ on stage who presses a button and let's all rave.
The song was built up completely wrong, waiting for 2 whole minutes to climax was a choice to never repeat. The quintessence of the anti-example to follow.