i know its an older video, but i have to disagree with your comment on great build quality. when you remove the screws to disable/enable the detents, you'll find that they use self tapping screws into plastic which shred the screw threads on the housing quickly. the detent noise disappears due to tight tolerances from the factory when the screws are set. once you remove the detents and put them back a few times, the detent noise and feeling fade completely. why they couldnt use metal thread inserts and better screws on an already expensive product is beyond me.
@@g-locmedia thanks for that. its not a bad product at all, it just has a few issues that i think could have been handled better for long term use. saying that, if you dont remove the detents at all, you should be fine.
suggestions for next reviews: Make little demos describing how you feel while flying with it. It's good to listen but better to see. When describing pros and cons, compare it with other models. Thanks for the review
@@g-locmedia around the same for the sidestick those are homemade in Italy so they should come around the same time hopefully - im away next month so hoping they don’t arrive and get drenched in rain 🤞
Xbox Version: Here is my review: I had this thing for 1 year now. They need to make it a bit heavier so its feels more realistic, it has that cheap plastic. When you grip the stick it comes off the table because it's light cheap plastic. I strapped mine down with double sided tape. The gameplay setup is realistic I like it though for its price. When you plug it in its all set to go, no configs needed except for some light tweak setups. You can fly 2 engine aircraft but if you want to fly a 747 4 engine aircraft you need to adjust the throttle settings. Many youtube tutorials online. Next: Don't buy rudder pedals to attach to the stick. Waste of money. They are never accurate and you start rolling off the runway. The stick has a nice rudder turn feature. Flaps and spoilers work great. The release brake is accurate. The reversers are a big help, when you land just pull throttle levers back and you can reverse easily. Gear up/down is great. Comes with a giant printed configuration map in the box, but its confusing as hell. Ignore it. Banking left and right pretty accurate and on point. Space. A big fail they did was: No Trim wheel adjustment. Some aircrafts tends to pitch up at high altitudes and its hard to pitch down with the stick to adjust the aircraft back down to the horizon level. Make sure you have enough space to fit the stick, quadrant keyboard and mouse. It took me 2 weeks to adjust to this configuration, at first it will seem a bit hard getting used to flying with a stick and throttle separately, I felt frustrated but I finally mastered my landings.
An annoyance with the throttle is that the spacing between the detents is equal which isn't realistic and doesn't give you much control between idle and climb. If you know someone with a 3D printer, get them to print some new detents which moves the climb and flex detents toward the end of the throttle travel.
I never really spent much time with MSFS. My family 'downsized' by two members over the last couple of years, so I've been pulled in a hundred directions. Regardless, I had looked at these bits prior to investing in Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo. I own a handful of Thrustmaster items and never really had any issue with them.
It comes down to which platform you're on, which planes you like to fly GA or commercial and what your actual budget is. Feel free to reach out on email
Quick question about it: with the yoke and the throttle, when you move it about would you accidentally lift the whole thing up? Or is it heavy enough to stay in on position?
Thanks for the video. Here is a question. I have a xbox s series and logitech extreme 3D pro gaming joystick. Im also considering to buy this quadrants (central pedestal team like spoilers, flaps and thrust levers) Do you think that can i make it work on my xbox? Some of the guys told that sidestick should be bought the version X especially made for xbox. Thanks.
@@g-locmedia Yes according to my researchs, sidestick X (xbox version) should be bought in order to use on xbox. Then as u mentioned, quadrants should be connected to stick to make it work on Xbox or PC. No problem for quadrants. Stick is the important thing.
I got mine yesterday. I downloaded the software and booted up xplane 11. In the joystick settings both the sidestick and quadrant show up and calibrate however once I load into the Zibo, the Sidestick doesn’t work. The cursor [+] is showing but the quad still works. Any ideas on how to fix this?
Can someone help me out? My THRUSTMASTER TCA will not control all 4 engines on any of the 4 engine planes...is there a setting in MSFS2020 that I missed? or do I need another set of thrustlevers?
On Windows 11 with Steam and X-Plane 12 it recognizes this throttle quadrant automatically. Check the editable throttle response curves in XP though, mine were different initially between throttle 1 and 2 so they weren't behaving quite the same.
Garbage product - Throttle quadrant constantly had issues with mine, when I finally get it working it will bug out a few flights later. Been through thrustmaster support, updated firmware etc. Buyers beware. Refuse to spend anymore time trying to fix it. Sidestick is good though.
I haven't had any issues with mine throughout testing. Great for others to see the trouble you've had. Gives people a fuller picture. Thanks for sharing.
Agreed mine is absolute dog water as well. The throttles for #1 and #2 have been misaligned since I opened it, no matter how much you calibrate it (whether on Windows, MSFS, or the actual quadrant itself). The throttle axis is also very "loose" in the sense that the values will drift up/down by several percent after you take your hands off the throttles, even when in detents. This is just due to the fact that they're poorly designed dinky plastic; no matter how much you turn up the built in tension screw, its always going to have this issue. The detents are not very precise and don't feel very good, and they don't consistently activate. For example reverse thrust on Fenix never activates simultaneously, nor equally as a result of all of these issues.
You seriously wanna buy expensive hardware just to fly on a fukin xbox 💀could’ve also checked if it works with a game console before buying, just refund it. If you find this junk quality go ahead and get an actual full sized and motorised replica for $2500 instead of 270
Crappy review. Instead of constantly changing camera angle and keep saying 'good good ohh super super good super nice' I wish you would have give more details. Waste of time.
i know its an older video, but i have to disagree with your comment on great build quality. when you remove the screws to disable/enable the detents, you'll find that they use self tapping screws into plastic which shred the screw threads on the housing quickly. the detent noise disappears due to tight tolerances from the factory when the screws are set. once you remove the detents and put them back a few times, the detent noise and feeling fade completely. why they couldnt use metal thread inserts and better screws on an already expensive product is beyond me.
thanks for bringing this to light. Ill pin this comment. Great for other to see who are considering buying it.
@@g-locmedia thanks for that. its not a bad product at all, it just has a few issues that i think could have been handled better for long term use. saying that, if you dont remove the detents at all, you should be fine.
Super refreshing to see a knowledgeable unbiased review that’s not sponsored. Thanks. 👍
Thanks Dan.
suggestions for next reviews:
Make little demos describing how you feel while flying with it. It's good to listen but better to see.
When describing pros and cons, compare it with other models.
Thanks for the review
Thanks for the feedback. Always looking to make my videos better. Thanks again.
Just bought one and I agree with all you said. I think the sidestick feels superb.
That’s great your loving it.
Using these for years…. love them!!! I’ve doubled the throttles for the A340….. Thanks for the review.
I have a mate who’s a Quinta’s Pilot uses these.He let me borrow them for a few weeks to complete the review. I was really surprised by them.
you might want my DIY mod for it too... th-cam.com/video/x1-Nu7H8LLc/w-d-xo.html
ive just ordered the throttle and a Virpil WarBRD base with the FSProjects A320 stick thanks for the review
Virpil Warbird base is good. Just got my hands on one the other week. Super smooth with loads of adjustment
@@g-locmedia I’m looking forward to mine its on back order though, how long did yours take to come?
usually virpil are around 6 weeks@@tb46475
@@g-locmedia around the same for the sidestick those are homemade in Italy so they should come around the same time hopefully - im away next month so hoping they don’t arrive and get drenched in rain 🤞
Xbox Version: Here is my review: I had this thing for 1 year now. They need to make it a bit heavier so its feels more realistic, it has that cheap plastic. When you grip the stick it comes off the table because it's light cheap plastic. I strapped mine down with double sided tape. The gameplay setup is realistic I like it though for its price. When you plug it in its all set to go, no configs needed except for some light tweak setups. You can fly 2 engine aircraft but if you want to fly a 747 4 engine aircraft you need to adjust the throttle settings. Many youtube tutorials online. Next: Don't buy rudder pedals to attach to the stick. Waste of money. They are never accurate and you start rolling off the runway. The stick has a nice rudder turn feature. Flaps and spoilers work great. The release brake is accurate. The reversers are a big help, when you land just pull throttle levers back and you can reverse easily. Gear up/down is great. Comes with a giant printed configuration map in the box, but its confusing as hell. Ignore it. Banking left and right pretty accurate and on point. Space. A big fail they did was: No Trim wheel adjustment. Some aircrafts tends to pitch up at high altitudes and its hard to pitch down with the stick to adjust the aircraft back down to the horizon level. Make sure you have enough space to fit the stick, quadrant keyboard and mouse. It took me 2 weeks to adjust to this configuration, at first it will seem a bit hard getting used to flying with a stick and throttle separately, I felt frustrated but I finally mastered my landings.
Superb review thanks !
No worries. Thanks for the feedback
An annoyance with the throttle is that the spacing between the detents is equal which isn't realistic and doesn't give you much control between idle and climb. If you know someone with a 3D printer, get them to print some new detents which moves the climb and flex detents toward the end of the throttle travel.
There's a mod for that :)
@@santiagoluib3Is there a tutorial on TH-cam?
I never really spent much time with MSFS. My family 'downsized' by two members over the last couple of years, so I've been pulled in a hundred directions. Regardless, I had looked at these bits prior to investing in Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo. I own a handful of Thrustmaster items and never really had any issue with them.
The bravo has far more customisation. It’s my daily flyer but I was quite impressed with this one.
Whats your recommendation for a beginner that wants to have a nice experience but without spending a lot of money?
It comes down to which platform you're on, which planes you like to fly GA or commercial and what your actual budget is. Feel free to reach out on email
hey mate pls answer,
does it work with the a330,
because that's my main plain
you're doing a great job
You should be able to configure this with almost any jet
Thanks for the video
No problem!
Really missing autpilot controls instead of parking set and engine start.
Now that would have been a nice addition
Well I'm not an expert by any extent but, there isn't any AP controls on the throttle quadrant, is there?
@@Kannon_BRno there isn’t but there isn’t a gear lever as well so yeah
@@GAMER_-yu8mz Fair
@@Kannon_BRthere is autopilot disengage button
cheers mate.
Is this compatible on Nintendo Switch? Ace Combat 7 just launched on Switch and I bought the game. Just wonder if I can play it with this
@@pecobs and unfortunately not mate
If you do not mind me asking , what usb hub or docking device are you using to connect all you hardware. Btw great vid as always
It’s a TPLINK 7 port powered hub. Make sure you go powered to take the load off the PC. Thanks for your comments on my vids. Means a lot.
@@g-locmedia thanks alot, looking to expand on my setup and looking for a good powered hub.
@@M4tr00s I actually run two of them. It’s amazing how many usb’s you need when you start expanding.
Can you use the throttle quadrant just by itself? or do you need the joystick?
On PC you can use it stand alone
Quick question about it: with the yoke and the throttle, when you move it about would you accidentally lift the whole thing up? Or is it heavy enough to stay in on position?
The throttle is not heaven. Would be best to bolt it down. If your gentle with it it won’t move but there’s no real weight to it.
@@g-locmedia oh ok thank you
@@FlamingHotGamingYT no worries. Sorry for the typo “heaven” lol. I meant heavy.
Can we set this without a consule?
This can be used on PC
Hey man! Quick question for ya! Do you use 2k or 4k??
My maij setup is triple 4k but running DLSS.
Do the autothrottle disengage buttons actually work, or they're just there for aesthetic reasons?
Yep, they work!
Thanks for answering that for me. Finding it hard to keep up with the comments. Thanks again
pls answer this
will the throttle work with 4 engine planes without configuring anything??
Unfortunately I no longer have the throttle to test this for you but I believe it does with msfs
Thanks for the video. Here is a question. I have a xbox s series and logitech extreme 3D pro gaming joystick. Im also considering to buy this quadrants (central pedestal team like spoilers, flaps and thrust levers) Do you think that can i make it work on my xbox? Some of the guys told that sidestick should be bought the version X especially made for xbox. Thanks.
I think you might need the stick so you can connect the throttle through the stick and in to the XBOX. Double check me on that though.
@@g-locmedia Yes according to my researchs, sidestick X (xbox version) should be bought in order to use on xbox. Then as u mentioned, quadrants should be connected to stick to make it work on Xbox or PC. No problem for quadrants. Stick is the important thing.
I got mine yesterday. I downloaded the software and booted up xplane 11. In the joystick settings both the sidestick and quadrant show up and calibrate however once I load into the Zibo, the Sidestick doesn’t work. The cursor [+] is showing but the quad still works. Any ideas on how to fix this?
Sorry i'm really not sure what might be the issue. Have you managed to fix it?
@@g-locmedia nope, I ended up returning it. I called Thrustmaster and they had no idea what was wrong either.
Will x box side stick work with tca quadrant for pc in xbox?
It should but defiantly double check on that as I haven’t tested.
No.
How to fly a 4 enginened plane Like the 747 or A340
You can just stack 2 thrust levers panels up
Or, you can press a little “3&4” button at the front of the quadrant, switching the quadrant to control engines 3 and 4
thanks for helping me out here in the comments. Struggling to get to them all at the moment. Its appreciated.
@@15EJC 3&4 button switch on back is useless, does not work
Any good in 2023, 2024, 2025 years friends !!!
I don't think this will be replaced anytime soon so should be good for a few years yet.
Can someone help me out? My THRUSTMASTER TCA will not control all 4 engines on any of the 4 engine planes...is there a setting in MSFS2020 that I missed? or do I need another set of thrustlevers?
Often this can be because there is another controller conflicting. What other electronics do you have attached?
@@g-locmedia just TRACK IR and an Xbox controller for camera functions
You have to go to settings. There are many youtube tutorials.
works with Mac?
I don't know the answer to that. Are you on x-plane?
No
Does this work on windows 11
Yea. The TM drivers are windows 11 compatible.
Ok good because I was Tryna find out if u could play it on windows 11 tysm
On Windows 11 with Steam and X-Plane 12 it recognizes this throttle quadrant automatically. Check the editable throttle response curves in XP though, mine were different initially between throttle 1 and 2 so they weren't behaving quite the same.
@@jokerace8227 does this also work msfs??
Can you hard mount this unit?
Garbage product - Throttle quadrant constantly had issues with mine, when I finally get it working it will bug out a few flights later.
Been through thrustmaster support, updated firmware etc. Buyers beware. Refuse to spend anymore time trying to fix it.
Sidestick is good though.
I haven't had any issues with mine throughout testing. Great for others to see the trouble you've had. Gives people a fuller picture. Thanks for sharing.
Agreed mine is absolute dog water as well. The throttles for #1 and #2 have been misaligned since I opened it, no matter how much you calibrate it (whether on Windows, MSFS, or the actual quadrant itself). The throttle axis is also very "loose" in the sense that the values will drift up/down by several percent after you take your hands off the throttles, even when in detents. This is just due to the fact that they're poorly designed dinky plastic; no matter how much you turn up the built in tension screw, its always going to have this issue. The detents are not very precise and don't feel very good, and they don't consistently activate. For example reverse thrust on Fenix never activates simultaneously, nor equally as a result of all of these issues.
I'll never buy products again from this shitco. Never ending problems with this same product purchased in Nov 2023 and zero results in resolving.
Why are you filming yourself from the side?
Its cool
@@MichealschatboxIt does look cool tho
It's stupid
@@charlietreamer5988 ok charlie
Don't waste your time and money buying it for use with an Xbox. Console doesn't recognize the quadrant, just the joystick. Junk quality, junk results.
You seriously wanna buy expensive hardware just to fly on a fukin xbox 💀could’ve also checked if it works with a game console before buying, just refund it. If you find this junk quality go ahead and get an actual full sized and motorised replica for $2500 instead of 270
@@maciejbielski9998 So you lack the IQ to know the company advertises it as working with Xbox. Learn before you expose your ignorance next time.
You need to route it through the hub on the stick. If that still doesn't work I reckon you may have a faulty unit
There’s an Xbox and PC version you bought the pc
It dosnt work with xbox wtf it says it does man.mine is.on the way
Crappy review. Instead of constantly changing camera angle and keep saying 'good good ohh super super good super nice' I wish you would have give more details. Waste of time.
Thanks for the feedback. Always trying to make better videos and understand how they are consumed. Thanks for letting me know.
You really don't know what you're talking about.
Let me know where I went wrong
Maybe suggest what he should improve on then
What a narcissistic comment.
Autist comment 🥸