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- New information about the Israel Folau 'situation' has been presented in a new two-hour documentary. This is a detailed summary of all the main points, and to be honest... it changed my perspective of him.
Israel Folau's decision to share his beliefs on social media sent the rugby world into absolute chaos! While many of us thought he would never step foot onto a rugby pitch again, he will be a key figure at this years Rugby World Cup.
A very messy ordeal, which saw pundits from around the world giving their opinion. To this day, bills in parliament are still pushing for changes to the 'Folau law' in legislation.
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Not Christian, believe in Civil Unions for anyone. But to punish a player that is religious for not agreeing with same sex marriage or "idolizers" or "alcoholics" or anything in that damn post is crazy. People seem to forget that he was the cover of a Gay magazine supporting the Convict Rugby team (known for being pro-LGBT) in Australia. He hasnt got a mean bone in his body, and he was treated like a criminal.
Let him play and have fun. As an aussie I'll be cheering for him when he puts on that Tongan jersey!
Well said.
I’m not religious in any way and agree with the right of gay marriage. It’s a right everyone should have as is the right to free speech as is the right to practice religion. Anyone who argues that you have a right to free speech but not to have to face any consequences is an idiot or a tyrant! I could understand if his personal sponsor decided not to continue sponsoring him but that’s as far as it should have gone.
Straight up Brother but yet here we are celebrating, LGBTQ delusional community and Men thinking they are women and that is acceptable
I’m a queer Australian, and while it may seem harsh and unfair that Folau was punished in that way, especially considering how undeniably exciting and important he was for the Wallabies, I believe it was the right decision, as religion should not be an excuse for hate-speech against other groups. I understand and respect his right to his beliefs, however, these are specific beliefs that he reiterated on multiple occasions on his social media page, in his own time. He is a professional athlete and prominent public figure, he should know better and be held accountable for what he puts out there for people of all ages, races, genders, orientations etc to see.
It pains me as he was such a great player to watch, and does seem like a kind person, but this thing really can’t go unexcused, especially from people in my shoes too.
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@@keanuismyfather7477 well if people didn't go queer he wouldn't be saying these things. God made Adam an eve not Adam an Steve
Folau is a legend and free to have his opinion.
Saying homosexuality is immoral isn't a matter of opinion though. It's objectively false.
@@Youre"objectively?" With regards to morals?
Opinion discarded.
@@jackdaw6359 With regards to biology.
@@Youre is morality just based on biology? Well apparently the biology of Folau made him say what he said.
Homosexuality is a natural product of biology. It's not a choice to be homosexual. Being homosexual doesn't bring harm to others. There is zero basis that justifies the claim that homosexuality is immoral.@@jackdaw6359
Personally I think he’s entitled to express his beliefs unless they openly incite violence. So I don’t think he should have been sacked.
When he pulled that guys pony tail in the tackle though, unforgivable.
according to todays world you are only allowed to have opinions if you are a 'victim of the system'
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i dont care what ppl say, i still love Izzy
I’m with you 💪
Yes he's records in rugby union and nrl speaks for itself, I think if we want to fill our seats at stadiums we need controversies and out spoken player's like him.
Who doesn't?!?!. ....pretty much Only the Media!
It's refreshing to hear someone strengthen their relationship with their father through such a near tragic event and get closer to God to such an extent. My respect for him and all those who stood by him had dramatically increased. He, and Australian rugby, really got screwed by Rugby Australia.
A true Tongan rugby legend alongside the great Jonah Lomu ❤
just learnt that Lomu was basically Tongan had to google it.... I wonder if there's a lot more talent that comes from Tonga that plays for the tier 1 nations and if you were able to retain that talent would anyone beat you?
Izzy is his father's son. ..that's loyalty right there, the togan way the Pacific way .true to his heritage n I respect him for that..full support from Papua New Guinea.What izzy said is in the Bible..these are not his own words no his father's words. These are good words. These are the words all true Christian church's in Australia, NZ,Tonga, the Pacific Islands,PNG, America's,Europe, Africa and all over the world preaches for hundreds of years!!. These are God's worlds!!..and he's got everything to say what he wants to say..ISRAEL FOLAU fight a brave battle n he fought to the end for what he believed. I salute n respect ISRAEL FOLAU...May God richly bless you,keep you safe n fight your battles. full support from PNG
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Still one of the most exciting players I have watched. Always a thorn in the SA sides. God Bless you champ. 🙏
Yep, especially because our (Bok) strategy was to test him under the high ball, as if there was even a 10% chance that he would fail the test. He passed with flying colors 100% of the time. 😢😢.
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I never liked him until this incredible show of faith and integrity. What a man in such dark times, my favourite player by far. He is storing up treasures in heaven by setting a fantastic example to young people.
Dark times indeed, Western civilisation is now threatened
Amen
❤ amen
Amen and Amen 🙏🏽
He is a multi multi millionaire and set up a go fund me page to pay for his legal fees, what an absolute flog of man
Every time I see that Castle lady I shiver. How was she the head of rugby australia??
Agreed Rat! There is something very strange about her.
Another great vid, uggy! Very informative. I'd really like to understand what is a corporations ability to enforce silence from their employees. Eg. In NZ, the bill of rights states all citizens have the right to their own opinion, and also the right to express them. No employer should ever be allowed to impinge on those rights. I personally liked what Benji Marshall said when nrl blocked Folau from returning. The guy hadn't broken any laws, meanwhile the nrl has multiple players with legal issues and convictions, so the standards don't make any sense
Thanks Chris!!
When you have capital, you have power. You can do literally anything... look at what Trump is going thru right now ... Andrew tate describes it as The matrix
People cannot be censored by the government, but if you're a bad look for my brand, I can definitely fire you. Free speech at its peak
I dont hate him, hope he can get back on track with his rugby career
Why would you hate him anyway? Because he’s a Christian?
I think regardless of whether you agree or disagree with a certain point of view, it's never a good idea to censor anything. IMO Folau should have voiced disagreement more respectfully, not condemn people to hell, but it's still a very dangerous precedent when the powers that be are able to ruin someone's career because they hold the 'wrong' belief
He chose his religious beliefs over his sport. Politics has no place in sports.
He made his bed
Folau has the right to express his views.
Unfortunately for him, Rugby Australia has the equal right not to pick him for his views.
Folau has never been censored. The controversial post is still on social media. This video is about a documentary on his life. That doesn't seem like censoring to me.
@@JaemanEdwards Religious beliefs and politics are 2 separate things. His religious POV was a post on his personal social media. Just like you have posted and will continue to post your opinions he is entitled to post his. You will use reference for your opinions as he did for his. Given there are hundreds of religions, hundreds of theories about various things, hundreds of political points of view, etc, as such various opinions will always exist. To discount or silence one opinion over another is fascist but even worse an indication of weakness.
Seems like you are one of the "for me but not for thee" types.
@@mikew8557 sorry to break it to you, but politics also encompasses religion.
And you don't wanna know what kinda type I think you are.
@JaemanEdwards politics has no place in sports yet that's exactly what happened with folau being kicked out isn't. If it wasn't for ARU politics he would be still be there
Different if he's using his screen time to push political/religious positions but he didn't it was his own personal social media account
Lets Go Tonga🙏 Izzy as Captain hopefully
Yup. I'm 100% behind Tonga if Izzy's playing for them!!!
Sadly if takalua how ever u spell the halve back name is playing he will be captain as he has been after pitau retired
Saw him play for that last Waratahs game against the Blues at Eden Park - insane skills. Interesting vid bro, never knew about the connection with his old man like that
Thanks bro!! Really appreciate your support man, means a lot
Everybody should have an unalienable right to hold and express an opinion or belief, just as everyone should have the unalienable right to challenge an opinion or belief. Furthermore, establishment opinions and beliefs are intrinsically suspect because they are always linked to power, control, and manipulation and should be very closely examined and challenged at every opportunity because a failure to do so ends in tyranny.
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Also I like Izzy, so I thought I would give all the facts to everyone.
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Great to see someone standing up in faith and support by his family throuh those tough times. We support Falau and also the same faith we uphold in Jesus Christ our Lord.
whos we
This man was scapegoated in order to prove a point to the wider Australian public.
It was the metaphorical equivalent of being hung drawn and quartered at the city gates in order to intimidate the people.
Free speech is essential, regardless of who it offends...and those who disagree with me should be jailed 😉
He never wished for anyone to go to hell, it is simply his belief that sinners go to hell.
If I say ''people who sun tan will get skin cancer'' i'm not wishing cancer on people, i'm warning them of the consequences.
The whole thing has put me off being a wallabies supporter, especially the way the ARU conducted themselves.
They showed a complete inability to understand how Polynesians think, feel and believe.
I've always had respect for Israel for standing up for what he believes in. Just keep doing what you're doing brother. QUEENSLANDER
Quickly becoming my fave rugby TH-camr. Smashing the like button, gotta get the algo to pump your videos
You have made my day ❤️
@@uggy 🙏🙏
"this really strengthened his relationship with his father" ... well, that's an understatement !
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As a South African rugby fan, I have a natural dislike for any Australian rugby team and player. BUT that doesn't take away my respect for their talent and their ability to at times put up a display that is pure brilliance. Even though the Kiwi vs. Springbok games are a traditional rivalry, the games we play against Australia are the ones that make me the most nervous, especially when the likes of Israel Folau, Quade Cooper and Michael Hooper are playing. Respect where respect is due. Politics, social ideologies and most of all woke bullshit should stay the FUCK out of the great game of rugby.
One thing for sure is that Rugby Australia decision to sack Folau for expressing his religious beliefs most definitely cost Australia the 2019 Rugby World Cup. Folau is a hero to many people, young and old and will always be. I applaud him for taking the stand that he did at the great personal cost.
Imagine if he waved a rainbow flag and heterosexual males were goung to hell....🤔 Probably get a knighthood
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The lad has his beliefs and hat the modern world disagree with. He's been punished let him go back to what he should stick at... On the rugby pitch
is there anywhere one can watch this two part documentary for free online? especially if we are not in australia?
Not sure if anyone partners with the ABC - you might have to set up a VPN then access it
@@uggy thanks, i just set up my free account with my email with ABCiview but am having some trouble with the video actually loading. looks like it most likely just wont be available if outside australia
@@maddssmithy ahh bugger, I’ll do some digging for you!
A good analytical review. Me, personally as a Straight White Atheist, I don't really have a problem with Folau's social media posts. I don't agree with them but I also think it's important to see what religious bigots really think and I believe in their right to share their opinions under the premise of free speech. I think he should be allowed to play. Also, it is a shame that religious mumbo jumbo has warped an otherwise healthy mind.
Well said
The reason I’m subbed and think you’re better than Squidge is his hatred of Folau unsubbed from him in 2018
Squidge really breaks down footage and shows the stuff you normally don't see on the first play through.
Squidge talks rubbish
I'm sure he's reading the comment crying over one person who unsubscribed because your angry he gave a negative viewpoint on someone who gave a lot of people a negative viewpoint. Irony my name is.
@@davidlee55 and your point is?
@@thecuttingsark5094 Folau had his freedom of speech then Squidge voice his opinion you know using his freedom of speech and you lot are hating it. Irony, look it up.
Can't wait to see him play, a shame it won't be in gold because we still have no fullback. What a joke Raylene Castle was to the game 🤦
MOST HATED? By who? non rugby players?
Haha check some of the comments about him on other rugby channels! Plenty love him, plenty hate him.
@@uggy on this channel more loves him l do
btw bro, definitley becoming my favourite rugby channel. Very objective, giving us the facts in a concise manner and never letting your own personal opinion be the centrepiece of your videos (even though you have every right to). Very fair and knowledgable channel. Can't wait to see you become number 1
Haha thanks bro!! Appreciate the support, means a lot
Completely disagree with his views but also think that he has been harshly punished/judged. Its also tragic that he is still booed, lets be real the man made a couple of social media posts, people worldwide do far worse, are punished far less and are forgotten by the angry mob much quicker. QANTAS being a major sponsor at the time had a lot to do with how harshly he was punished by RA imo and while Izzys opinions on relationships aren't as socially acceptable as Alan Joyce its pretty obvious from the last couple years who the better bloke is. Saddest part of it all is this guy is one of the best to ever play the game and I'd argue is probably the greatest fullback of all time (will hear arguments for Christian Cullen) and many fans will completely ignore that and just remember him as 'a homophobe'.
@@JaemanEdwards You are a clown, well done for proving Waka right. Jones get an education child.
@@JaemanEdwards Eloquently put
@@wakatamihana7319 😜
You like that one cuz
@@JaemanEdwards haha I did
Just subbed: keep up the great work
Extremely informative video. Thank you
Thanks for watching and the comment!
Why would he be the most hated player at the world cup? I'm gonna be cheering for him
The political paradox of Australian Footy Folau got hounded out of Rugby Australia for expressing his faith and views on Instagram while most political and sports commentators are silent on Josh ado Carr expressing support for Palestinians and not condemning Hamas terrorist attack this week now that is interesting!!
Rugby is temporary, Faith is eternal! Good on ya brother Israel Folau!
That’s pretty eye-opening how players were only allowed to comment if they disagreed with Folau but those who supported him were gagged. Talk about bias!
You got my vote Folau🙏 ...if God is for you who can be against you🙏
It's not that he was censored it's that he was contractually obligated to be an ambassador and was warned that if he continued to breach his contwoukd be terminated he breached it again and was dismissed for his behaviour.
💯 you can't have a game that claims to be for everyone and then somebody who only wants certain people to be alive.
That is discrimination period and demonstrates how weak the narrative is that is being promoted, truth stands defiant in the face of all opposition. As such if it was truth they were pushing then nothing others would say would affect the stance they had taken. Here is the truth, why should someone go against their moral compass to promote something they can't believe in because it goes against their beliefs, this goes for both sides.
Here is another fact, truth welcomes challenge as it gives truth a platform to even further establish and validate itself.
It's religious discrimination. He quoted from the Bible which basically said if you sin repent or hell awaits. If it was a Muslim being told to repress their religiousness this would have never held but its OK to hate Christians.
@@jestersage8700 no they would be sacked if they were preaching hate speech.
Where do we find his documentary?
On the ABC iview website
Poor Nic White 🤣
🤣🤣 good clip with the mouth guard too
@@uggy yeah mate loved it!
Don't think Nic White has 3.1 million dollars to soak up his tears.
Players have cheated on their wives, gotten in car accidents while drunk, have gotten into brawls, been caught with PEDs, and most of the time we not only forgive them, but completely forget about it. So why then can we not move past Falou’s “transgression” of expressing his belief?
Kurtley and Karmicheal hunt were involved in sexual harassment scandals and drug abuse
... he just played in the Tonga side that beat Australia A.
After watching this, just wondering who were the ARU lawyers that wrote or agreed to Izzy's contract- major F*** up.
He never devided the sport your media did
I worked with his brother johnny they are a humble family really down to earth! His brother told me they have family that are gay and what he posted wasn’t that deep he was just re posting something from the bible. Get to know them and you’ll see how pure their hearts are
Best fullback ever ❤
Izzy forced us Saffas to contest 'Gary Owens' and be good at it. Thank you sir.
Izzy is awesome! It's strange that people who don't believe in hell, sin or God get upset when their sinful lives are called out.
What people unfortunately forget is that the last line of his "controversial post" is one of love, forgiveness and redemption "Jesus saves".
I commend you on your understanding of free speech. I may not share if's position on damnation of those contrary to his families religion, but like many historic figures have stated/acted upon, i will defend his right to say it, to the death. Society, not just rugby, is in profound danger of using sensitive issues to control populations. I love rugby & he was truly a world great player. What a shame, but what a current tonga team? Thank you for your sincerity & objectivity. Very welcome in todays dawn of control.
May this guy take player of the year award ! Absolutely an awesome player !
True Father and Son relationship displayed here. Dads immovable respect will carry on in the Folau bloodline Forever. Integrity at its Finest something this Ugly world Hates and won't understand. God Bless Izzy your Reward in Heaven will be the Best your ever received.
Some sportsmen have behaved really, really badly, without being driven out in the way Folau was for expressing a traditional Christian teaching... The double standard sinks.
Haven’t watched a wallaby’s game since.
Once Folau was let go Australian rugby hasn't been the same...
What the media did to him and his wife was disgraceful
Izzy the missing link to the wallabies. And I'm happy he's playing for tonga Everytime he played you know he's gonna carve up even now hes still better than any fullback in Australia
Appreciate the info.. When Izzy left, he took the Wallabies chance at winning rugby games with him😂!
What really makes me scratch my head is that journos to this day, continue to ignore the fact that Izzy posted a LIST of people, but yet they only ever mention a stance of homophobia.
Im a Christian myself and and I have similar beliefs
Just because we see homosexuality as a sin does not mean we hate the people
I believe the ban was ridiculous
But thats politics so im not surprised
I'd shake his hand. Great man
Issy did not split the sports. Each and everyone has his/her own view /oppinion and with the help of media made the sports and fans pick sides👍...Issy's oppinion and beliefs was put on media to make their ratings and sell 👌 could have been your oppinion or mine👍but we just not good enough for their ratings.ill give you a test...try sell your oppinion on TV..I promise you will stir up some nests and if you are a celebrity that target is locked for ratings👍
All the best in what you do Toko. Good luck in your world cup prep🌴🕺🏽much Love to you and fam 👊Godbless 🙏
..."Unless Nick Whyte is on the field!!!" 👏🏽🙌🏽🤣🤣🤣
Subscribed!!!
Really enjoued this. Great content. Someone that can stand firm in whatever they believe in shouldn't be sacked from their job
Loved the last sentence of the video !!! Would love to see Tonga beat Australia with Falau scoring the winning try.
Fantastic video
You are fantastic x
Folau is and always will be a legend Standing up for what he believes in and speaking the truth from the bible 🙌
They definitely have lost a Super Talented Player .
Israel took a principled Biblical position. If anyone has an issue with that they should argue with the historic Christian Faith - not Falau.
He is a courageous and thoroughly faithful believer. Everyone should admire him for taking a stand under such immense pressure - a rare character quality in this day and age.
He is a true hero!
Good to have him back in the international game.
Now wallabies are out of the World Cup...
TGBTG
He is a very good player. I'm not worried about his religious beliefs.
When surrounded by 25+ GOD FEARING TONGANS it doesn't matter if your the most hated🤷🏾♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Why did you highlight ONE word in what he posted
Came with the screenshot!
Dude could’ve been the best fullback in the world if his career wasn’t derailed
I wonder if anyone else can see this was the start of the end for freedom of speech in Australia. Disgraceful how they treated Folau. Everyone has a right to their own beliefs and opinions regardless of your social status.
I'm a Papua New Guinean Christian and I stand with my Tongan brother Israel Folau!
Wallabies needs him for this up coming world cup
Izzy is a real Deal.
God bless you brother
Folau actually signed a contract to make him the highest payed player in the world and in that contract it said he can't say anything bigoted or homophobic. If Folau said nothing he would still be in Australia
the term homophobic does not make sense, it just serves to censor what is contrary to the unique thinking of the LGBT lobby
I'm more concerned about Folau turning out against Ireland in September!
Your media did this you may have won the world cup in Japan had he had been on the field
One thing about true Christians they never back off from their faith as apostle Paul says, To live is Christ and to Die is Gain, for I’m not ashamed of the gospel for it is the power of God unto salvation for everyone who believe
Poor decision by Rugby Australia, proven by settling. I wish they went to court to settle the wrong decision once and for all. He should still be playing for Australia.
On a side note he was a better centre than a FB. Look at his rugby season as a centre with the Waratah’s broke the try scoring record. In my opinion he was always a better runner on the off load, line breaker and fender when running. The FB position needs to know how to read the whole game, know where the gaps are forming and know when to support the running play and when to get back. Izzy didn’t have the rugby brain.
Thanks for this doc , I always wondered what happened. Respect to you and F for showing integrity. Love your nic white comment, ha ha
"His dad's interest wasn't on his rugby career but his Church" #wrong
His dad who's also his spiritual mentor is more concerned of his their spiritual beliefs and most importantly on his sons soul then selling short to ARU by agreeing to take down something that he stood for with his religious beliefs!!!
Hes entitled to his opinions tragedy that he was cancelled for it
A real mess of a situation. On the one hand Folau has the right to say what he believes. That of course brings consequences (positive or negative). There is something that I do often wonder: We saw this in the last couple of weeks in tennis at Roland Garros. Is there really a need to "use your public platform" to air your views? Does it really make any difference?
No
Guttered for Folau, even having to miss this years World Cup…
Such a shame! Tonga are looking good though
@@uggy thank you for this video, really put things in perspective and I didn’t even know there was a doco about him - fa’afetai lava bro
Folau was never a villan in the first place. Alot of people supported him espeically some of the pasifika brothers who are Christian.
A real man, on and off the field 💪
His a real man.
He wasn’t the youngest NRL player to play for Australia. He’s the second youngest ever!
a amazing guy.
a incredible incredible athlete.
a man of principles, character with good intentions.
freemdom of speech for all.
real tolerance from all.
Amazing player, he used to be the best fullback in the world IMO. Still can't believe that he was punished by his ideologies... The Wallabies never found a good replacement for him
the reaction shows the world is worried...I mean, what if he is right
If he's right then the tooth fairy and father christmas will be laughing at us all
The interesting thing about the whole situation was it kinda exposed how we all viewed RA at time. An Unprofessional tail leading the dog type of organization.
Regardless of what you feel about the sentiments in Izzys post he actually had every right to post it he has protected religious rights in Australia and he didn't post some Westboro crap about the LGBT community. As was RA's right to not associate. However instead of working it out before hand and organizing a contract cancellation with payout, they listened to the real power in Rugby Australia at the time, Alan Joyce at QANTAS.
Raelene was such a disaster for RA and this was the icing on the cake, not understanding the cultural backgrounds of Polynesians peoples really did real damage to the fanbase, players and the organization. Theres a reason after Wallaby vs Bok games the Polynesian players and the bok players pray on the field, they're all Christians'.
My honest opinion, I don't really like my athletes preaching at me regardless of politics or religion. I certainly would have advised Izzy against making such a post but the entire fiasco was a disaster from start to finish. Also I like Squidge as a creator but I think its time to forgive and move on, there are other players for other national teams actually getting away with real crimes and punishment
Go post the same thing and see if you have a job in the morning good luck to you 👍
@@davidlee55 Please read part where I said RA had right to no longer associate. Also if I did post that and got sacked I too would have grounds for unfair dismissal based on religious freedom. The fact Izzy got paid suggests RAs lawyers thought it to risky to battle in court.
@@davidlee55 You sound piss weak mate, if you can't handle controversy and opposing opinion, I suggest you become a recluse. The world is fiercely opinionated and controversial, truth and fact embraces challenge and controversy, it needs these counterparts to validate and establish its position.
@@jonathanstewart8106 Go for it 👍
It's absolutely ridiculous how the public view him as a villan when he did nothing wrong.
He said gay people are going to burn in hell? That’s pretty messed up man
Someone tag Squidge Rugby in this. The guy is ultra butt hurt by Falou being a Christian lol
To me Darcy Swain is the biggest grub in World Rugby rn. Yeah Izzy said some bad things but he's never dove at a players knee. He's playing at the World cup but the question is how will they cover him?
Regardless of the saga with RA, Tonga are more than happy to take him anyways
yup, let’s see if they can slay some giants