@@katarinacle7931 it's very rare to find an investigator who knows how to accurately read the polygraph results in the first place and that is why there is alot of innocent people sitting in prison right now even I have been there because of something I was accused of and like a dummy I agreed to take a polygraph to prove my innocence and they tried to say I failed every question on the test but after I was questioned for hours and I stuck to my story which was the truth they had no choice but to let me walk out of there that day and thank goodness nothing else has ever came of it because I'm completely innocent
It's awful that, if you are murdered, they always look at your friends and family first. Stranger on stranger crime is more rare. RIP Doe. How terrified she must have been.
Actually what you wrote isn't true. Over 90% of all murders of females is by a family member. Usually a husband, boyfriend, ex boyfriend, ex-husband or extended family member and in the case if the 65 year old woman, it was a close friend of the family. The police would NOT being doing their job if they didn't look at close family members. If a member of my family were murdered (God forbid), I'd say, "Look at me all you want, just don't look solely at me".
@@harrymarsee701 Men make up almost 78% of all murder victims and they are more likely to be killed by a stranger, but still are murdered mostly by friends and family.
That poor man. His wife of 43 years snatched away & killed, over someones bad debts. They had earned money & saved it, and had a life together . That guy is an absolute monster for ruining their lives & community.
Im at a loss how he could have zero regard For life and here I am homeless helping stray animals,helping people with their problems when I have so many myself No figuring
What a terrible thing for this elderly couple, especially because they trusted those in their neighborhood. I feel bad for Mr. Roberts, particularly when he came to realize he was the prime suspect. Even worse is what his poor wife suffered. Such evil people with no thoughts for anyone.
The Coffee Shop murders actually happened at a Starbucks in Georgetown. I remember this because I went to work for Starbucks in California around 1998 and they had much stricter closing and opening procedures in place for security purposes. Starbucks took this tragedy extremely seriously. I remember my manager at that first location I worked at telling me about this story! I worked for Starbucks off and on for several years as a Barista then a Shift Manager. This story will always haunt me, even though I left Starbucks years ago. I never forgot it! How very sad and truly terrifying for those poor employees who lost their lives so needlessly. They were all so young!
There was a coffee shack in Alaska where the barista was kidnapped & unalived while my daughter was going to college in Anchorage! The crazy guy had a young wife & small child living close by in a rental 😢
I strongly agree. I think much of it can be attributed to the break down of the family.& the fact that there is no longer communal support. It's not only happening in the states, but Europe & Canada as well.There is also tremendous pressure to be successful & that is measured by things(items). It is unfortunately unimportant the means use to. achieve them(Eick Erickson (sp) & it seems few hold education/job training in high regard. (imho)
@@sherrymahoney9634 yep...been around pure narc wicked falsehood of people.. including my own kids... certain culture bring up their kids Special when it's all a Facade...24 years with Horrible people who enabled lier.. keeping secrets behind my back...2 back surgeries and almost being killed I have best story... VICTIM of abuse and The clan of liers who kept secrets...
That attorney in the first story has to be the worst lawyer I've ever heard of. What kind of lawyer is not only gonna let their client agree to a polygraph but also agree to sit down for an hours long hostile interrogation?
Both murders are horrific however the coffee shop triple murder of young people, trying to make a living should be safe, and that kind of stuff shouldn’t happen. So sad 😞
My wife passed away december 6th at the age of 52. I am not dealing with it well at all. But I am trying. :( Hold on with peace, love, understanding and good communications to everyone in your life. Forgive and make amends. Regret never ceases to sting and loss never ceases to bleed and ache 😿
Mad respect to those divers -I’m a punk when it comes to dark water and especially snakes - couldn’t do it. They shoulda been paid triple quadruple time
The perp in the first case had it made until he decided to call again and convince Mr. Roberts to get someone as an intermediary. Law enforcement was convinced that it was Mr. Roberts and they would have just continued to dig until they "found" the evidence to convict him (wrongly) of the crime.
Can you even imagine how furious you would be, if all you want is to find your wife and these pigs just keep wasting time on YOU, because that would be the easiest case for them to handle?! I swear I used to believe most cops are good, but I have seen too many instances of them overreaching for the sake of making arrests, and being lazy when it comes to doing real police work. And I'm talking just my personal experiences and those of friends and family, never mind how many times I've seen it in true crime stories.
I watched my father dig a huge hole and burn something in at night. He parked big boats in the yard to block The View from the other side of the house on the street side. Couple of nights later he dug a hole again, covering up the first one burning something else in the next one right beside the first hole. I feel he created a inground incinerator buried a body and there's nothing I can do about it because the cops are so stupid and lazy if I go to them and tell them I want to find out if there is really bones down there, they will say I did it and I don't even have pet food right now so I can't afford no attorney and I'm stuck living with this.
It happened before I went to kindergarten. And because he threatened murder suicide on our family daily, when we were growing up I couldn't do anything about it when he was alive.
@@selfesteem3447 Well I doubt you even remember the exact location if you weren't even in kindergarten yet. But if you did tell them and they did find human remains, they would be able to tell that they were buried too long ago for you to be the murderer.
@@selfesteem3447 They should be able to tell that the bones\body was from years ago and they could easily find out it was when you were a child. I doubt they would suspect you! It should be worth telling them if someone genuinely is down there. Their familys want closure! But I understand where you are coming from!
1992. Tennessee- an elderly woman named Doe aged 65 disappeared. Alan Roberts the husband of 43 years came home and found his wife wasn’t at at Home ! Alan received a call demanding a ransom of $100;000/ to handover Doe and Alan informed the police and FBI stepped in. The name Sam Wagner came up as Alan said he had a business appointment with Sam Wagner the day Doe disappeared and Sam Wagner failed to keep the appointment with Alan. Charles Lord a friend from the church agreed to help Alan Roberts to get Doe Back to him. Charles Lord was the treasurer of the Church and kept all church financial records. Episode 2 1997- WASHINGTON DC- Coffe Shop Murders- A triple murder shocked the residents.
Not everyone grieve in the same manner. We sometimes cause our own disappointment by EXPECTING others to do things a certain way, be a certain way or respond/act in a certain manner. SMH 🤦♂️
True crime fan here and it's always sad when someone's taken early, but for some reason Doe's case made me feel really bad for her. Then when I heard how they found her, it really bothered me. How awful.
@@joncoles2089 agree, karma untouches no one. thats why even our thinking gets us in trouble, or blessing. all the best & worst laid plans of mice & men... began with thinking, people don't just wake up one wednesday morning & decide to do some crazy deed, it began with thought long before that wednesday, unless of course it didn't...just usually i think it does...
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Feel bad for Allen, Doe's husband. He lost his beloved wife and became the main suspect for a while. Fortunately for him, he found a new love two years after he lost Doe. Both him and his new wife have passed away. Allen died in 2005 and his new wife, Esther died 10 years later.
To not only take money from his church but to kill a friend's wife is dooming that man's soul. That poor husband to know how his loving wife died is simply a nightmare.
I am very interested in knowing the outcome of the coffee shop murders story. but I am choosing to close out because there are way way too many commercials / ads. oh my God!
Polygraph tests have been proven to be unreliable as evidence. It makes no sense to me why investigators still use them. I can imagine that even if someone is innocent, certain topics may make them feel anxious or emotional, not because they are guilty of anything, but because they are having an emotional response to the subject matter. Like being asked “did you kill your wife?” would make anyone anxious and upset, because they are now thinking about their missing and possibly dead wife. The only thing I can think of that they might be useful for, is to gauge the suspect’s reaction to the suggestion of taking a polygraph test. Like if they flat out deny to do it, it could come off as suspicious. But at the same time, I wouldn’t want to take one even if I were innocent, because of the reasons I mentioned before. It is also possible to basically outsmart the test, as some people have crazy control over their emotions, especially if the person is a psychopath. With the amount of DNA technology we have, as well as dozens of other means of investigating, the whole idea of a polygraph test seems silly and outdated.
@@jazzyg6298 I'm betting a sociopath could easily pass a polygraph test. I used to know a sociopath path and he could easily lie about anything without being batting an eyelash. He could convince anyone of anything. It was frightening.
They're totally not able to detect lying or untruthful answers. They're pretty much as capable as any modern smartwatch that comes with ability to measure your heartbeat and such. It's mostly good at picking up people in distress lol. And a million other reasons why polygraph tests aren't admissible in any court in the US. TV totally eats it up though. 🙄
You can only "fail" polygraph or so called lie detector tests when administered by someone who wants to put u under the jail.....polygraphs are complete BS you'd have to be a complete idiot to take one or talk to the cops at all.....just ask for a lawyer and remain silent
The fact that the barber shop guy said if he had been called by cooper, that he would have helped him rob the coffee shop is scary cause it means he’s a criminal and possible potential murderer who just needs an opportunity. Disgusting
You're both completely out of touch with yourselves if you think a barbershop guy who has never committed a crime is evil simply for saying that. And everyone who agrees, you're very confused. Imagine someone you care about being killed. Visualize it. Now you're as guilty as the barbershop guy. Nobody is evil simply for a thought, because nobody controls every thought they have, because if you did you wouldn't be reading this. Evil requires action. Your thoughts can only harm you, so don't bother barbershop guy about his. And before some mouth breather starts with"but he said he would blah blah blah," half of the people reading my comment thinking "I'd punch this guy in the face" wouldn't punch me in the face once they got to me. And no individual knows which half they're in. You're welcome for explaining life to you.
If you've never been at least a "potential criminal 0" at least once you probably live a pretty boring life. As far as "disgusting" I'd hate to be your poor man. I can guess everything beyond missionary with the lights off is disgusting to you. Lol
@@andrewthetruth The weakness and thought comes first not the other way around Satan sees the weakness Evil manipulates the thought where weakness was already there Self puts it into action This is why ppl are prosecuted for there of knowledge of a crime Even though they were not there And also prosecuted for the level of participation In the crime Why the was not properly prosecuted I don't know Definitely a failure of the DA
@@andrewthetruth U have very corrupt view of right and wrong And accuse many of being confused And u are the confused one Satan is the father of confusion
You all recognize that if it hadn't been her, then it would have been someone else, and they probably wouldn't be here to give their side. Everyone is criticizing her for failing to notice the warning signs and falling for his attractions but I say bravo to this gutsy woman who acted on her suspicions and gut instinct. She could have been killed many times but God held her through the very end. Imagine turning in the love of your life for murder on television. Would you want to do that? Whether it was a look-alike or not, you would live with regret over doing so. She was courageous enough to investigate, sleep with, and lie to a man she believed to be a friend & husband. I appreciate her being willing to share this information. I'm delighted she was able to share her side of the story and assist the police in catching a killer.
This is beyond sad. That man lost his wife, his literal life partner of over 40 years, a woman he obviously loved and cared for deeply. Just goes to show sometimes people grieve different. In a truthful way. Everybody doesn't run out screaming and hollering and crying. This man is what is considered stoic. Bless his heart.
I beg to differ. Many get caught because of a strand of hair , a footprint , a letter which can be manipulated to the point where it provides information. Many get caught after twenty-five years because of advances. Mind boggling advances
@Ronald Donner exactly my point ..ur absolutely correct i thought that do. How dumb can they be..people who apply to be the police sometime acts like the dumb criminals
And boredom in a small town, Geesh. Doe, was just minding her business, probably nice to him at church. Evil seems to love hurting happy. Nice ppl. Bored...nothing to excite him...just move away. Geesh.
Allen and Charles attended the same church when they became both good friends. Allen was a bank manager which Charles believed should not have refused his application. Because Charles knew Allen and Doe so well this sealed her fate for ransom then unfortunately DEATH. It's like Charles thought he had a RIGHT not to be refused by Allen.
They should put the death penalty on the table. If the perpetrator reveals where the body is and the body is successfully recovered then take the death penalty off the table.
Why i tend to avoid church , to many deceptive people there , they actually are money cult's , they worship money not God. Jesus himself said you don't need a church to worship him.
More proof that nowhere is safe....not even church. It's sad how people in their close circle turned on the husband and called his way of grieving suspicious.🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️💯
When they explained that he went back to his dancing group *a few weeks* after her disappearance, I didn't find that odd. Poor guy was probably being driven crazy sitting around his empty house all day and just wanted to feel something normal for a moment. Now, if he had collected a life insurance policy and taken some wife 30 years younger than him and skipped town to live in the Bahamas then I would be suspicious...
@@crystalnadeau254 So true my dad after 2 months of my mom's death left everything in Denmark and I just broke my shoulder he didn't care and went to UK and US and came back after 5 months because he couldn't see the empty house even tho my brother and I were still living there lol. Everyone grieve different and I still make him feel guilty for leaving me and he said he known me for 23 years and my mom for 50 years so that was so difficult that he didn't care about anyone at that time.
What a despicable excuse for a human being. Poor Doe....AND, her husband. Who would've ever expected a evil man like that, in their midst. Truly innocent victims.
Why would you wanna forgive him he’s a bloody sick monster. Poor poor wife what a way to go. You gotta be careful of who you make your friends you just have to.
Forgiveness doesn't mean you don't hold a person responsible, it just allows you no longer feel driven to retaliate. Being wronged so horribly there is always that below the surface need for hate driven revenge, and what is given in sentence is never enough. Forgiving allows you to let that go, knowing that they have to live with the sentence and themselves until they die and then at final judgment.
Why is it the narrator says the safe had not been opened during the robbery but the pictures taken during the initial investigation shows the safe IS open?
Oh, poor Doe. Although Doe didn't drown, Lord should have been waterboarded just so He could have a taste of what Doe might have experienced if she did suffocate to death.
Now he mentioned being convinced they would find some bones or makeup, wtf this guy smoking? I don't get why she would have any sort of make on her person when fetching mail ffs
Why didn't the police wiretap and set up a camera to record mailbox inserts right away? And then their equipment didn't work! The incompetence is breathtaking.
@@Kaigirl27No you were right I was! I said that this case would be perfect for the coffeehouse crime youtube channel because of the coffeeshop theme lol
FBI doesn’t even give that much as a reward. They usually start around $10,000. But corporate and businesses were giving $100,000. That’s saying something.
Why do criminals keep trying to use lye to speed decomposition? Haven't they seen all these shows where it ALWAYS does the opposite and preserve the body?
@41 mins: in 110° heat, 21 divers muck around looking for a body, in a muddy river with zero visibility, several species of venomous snakes, searching by hand...no body, the kidnapper lied, he had buried the woman near septic tank in his back yard.
Just because a person does not show emotions where & when you expect them to, may only be evidence of their reluctance to display emotions in public. You have no way to know, if they _"grieve in private"_ or not. Besides, people grieve in a variety of different, and sometimes irrational ways. (can't confirm guilt, from emotional reactions to traumatic events)
True. When my mom told me that my dad had died, I started smiling and almost laughing at first, and I was honestly completely shocked by that initial reaction of mine. I seriously worried if was a sociopath, however, I didn’t truly even grieve until a few years later. He took his own life only a month after I had turned 18, and it was after my mom and I had moved out due to his constant emotional abuse he inflicted on her. I had only recently developed a good relationship with my father as well. I know that I had to be strong for my mom who was devastated, shocked and heart broken, and that’s likely why it took so long for me to start the grieving process. But honestly, God forbid she had given me the news in front of the sheriff’s that went to do the welfare check on him, because they very well may have questioned me further or even assumed I had something to do with it. So yeah, you nailed it, the way people show their emotions and grieve can be a highly individual process.
@@ChevyGirl-1984 Yes indeed. I've seen every reaction to emotional trauma you could imagine. There is no set way to react, but some people will judge you by what they expect to see. _Police could use some education in trauma psychology._ Best wishes to you Amy, thanks for sharing.
Poor sweet Mr Roberts..... everyone treated him like he was guilty, but he was completely innocent the entire time! Bless that dear man!
He's so cute!
That's why those lie detectors are terrible!!!
@@katarinacle7931 it's very rare to find an investigator who knows how to accurately read the polygraph results in the first place and that is why there is alot of innocent people sitting in prison right now even I have been there because of something I was accused of and like a dummy I agreed to take a polygraph to prove my innocence and they tried to say I failed every question on the test but after I was questioned for hours and I stuck to my story which was the truth they had no choice but to let me walk out of there that day and thank goodness nothing else has ever came of it because I'm completely innocent
@@keefespencer1173 More than a hundred words without a single full stop. Not even at the end.
Yes so sad 😢
The fact the she maybe buried alive is horrifying my heart goes out to this family.
It's awful that, if you are murdered, they always look at your friends and family first. Stranger on stranger crime is more rare. RIP Doe. How terrified she must have been.
The reason is because most of these types of murders are done by a family member or friend.
@@skygazer6898
That's exactly what the person above wrote.
@@ZoeF.O I see that now I read the comment. All I can say is great minds think alike LOL
Actually what you wrote isn't true. Over 90% of all murders of females is by a family member. Usually a husband, boyfriend, ex boyfriend, ex-husband or extended family member and in the case if the 65 year old woman, it was a close friend of the family. The police would NOT being doing their job if they didn't look at close family members. If a member of my family were murdered (God forbid), I'd say, "Look at me all you want, just don't look solely at me".
@@harrymarsee701 Men make up almost 78% of all murder victims and they are more likely to be killed by a stranger, but still are murdered mostly by friends and family.
What a horrible man to take someone’s life away, and taken from their family. Poor Mr Roberts, god bless him! ❤
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This goes to show you can’t judge people’s grieving process. The poor husband was a suspect because he didn’t grieve how people thought he should’ve.
Everyone grieves differently. some people are very private, some people are very open. Give the poor man the chance to grieve his way.
@@kimwatts633 yes exactly
If your husband die even if you cry they going to give you a day and then question you!! 🤷🏾♀️
@@dimples5257 They sho is gonna!
@@amandaaamari3 @a@@aaaaaaaaaa
That poor man. His wife of 43 years snatched away & killed, over someones bad debts. They had earned money & saved it, and had a life together . That guy is an absolute monster for ruining their lives & community.
Actually Doe was 65 years old
Everything he did was suspicious. There seems to always be a BS reason for someone to kill off a spouse.
@@nivka527 They were talking about how many years they had been married...43 yrs.
@@SignOfTheTimes008 ?? what are you talking about
@@SignOfTheTimes008 no it wasn’t
Im at a loss how he could have zero regard
For life and here I am homeless helping stray animals,helping people with their problems when I have so many myself
No figuring
What a terrible thing for this elderly couple, especially because they trusted those in their neighborhood. I feel bad for Mr. Roberts, particularly when he came to realize he was the prime suspect. Even worse is what his poor wife suffered. Such evil people with no thoughts for anyone.
In some weird way it makes me so grateful that people are caring enough to search so much for someone who’s missing. It warms my heart
The Coffee Shop murders actually happened at a Starbucks in Georgetown. I remember this because I went to work for Starbucks in California around 1998 and they had much stricter closing and opening procedures in place for security purposes. Starbucks took this tragedy extremely seriously. I remember my manager at that first location I worked at telling me about this story! I worked for Starbucks off and on for several years as a Barista then a Shift Manager. This story will always haunt me, even though I left Starbucks years ago. I never forgot it! How very sad and truly terrifying for those poor employees who lost their lives so needlessly. They were all so young!
@John Ross obviously you cared enough to reply muppet.
There was a coffee shack in Alaska where the barista was kidnapped & unalived while my daughter was going to college in Anchorage! The crazy guy had a young wife & small child living close by in a rental 😢
@@johnross5729 Why must you be so unkind?
My heart breaks for Mr &Mrs Roberts just because of a vile monster couldn't pay his bills. That's just so disturbing. I hope he rots in prison.
He’s a fool. Bills are just paper man lol
Such a sad story of Doe Roberts . I’m so very sorry for your loss Mr Robert’s . Rest In Peace Ms Doe !
Allen Roberts passed away in 2005. Charles Lord died in prison in 2016.
@@joho0 Infuriating that the criminal lived so long.
LOL@ "The man with the Asian accent" - gotta love the 90's...
Buk Lau accent
All I know is he sounded... asiaaaan
🤣🤣🤣👍
? Is calling someone Asian racist now or..?
She's underneath the sod that he laid duh
It's so strange to me how some are able to take the life of another person and just walk around like it never happened
Seems to happen a lot! Which is scary!
I strongly agree. I think much of it can be attributed to the break down of the family.& the fact that there is no longer communal support. It's not only happening in the states, but Europe & Canada as well.There is also tremendous pressure to be successful & that is measured by things(items). It is unfortunately unimportant the means use to. achieve them(Eick Erickson (sp) & it seems few hold education/job training in high regard. (imho)
That's the same way I feel. . . some people are cold hearted. Wolves in sheep clothing.
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Life can sometimes be cheap to people like him, a straight up psycopath who showed no remorse
i can't believe he can do something like that to someone he knows. omg, I can't even think about hurting my cat. it's just so scary.
That’s because you have a conscience
Ppl that can do this, have “NO” conscience & they’re narcissistic!
God will carry out his justice on evil like that after they pass away.
@@sherrymahoney9634 yep...been around pure narc wicked falsehood of people.. including my own kids... certain culture bring up their kids Special when it's all a Facade...24 years with Horrible people who enabled lier.. keeping secrets behind my back...2 back surgeries and almost being killed I have best story... VICTIM of abuse and The clan of liers who kept secrets...
I'd rather hurt a mean person than my lovely cats
Meows 🐈😺
If you fail the polygraph, you're guilty. If you pass the polygraph, you're still probably guilty. Brilliant!
I was thinking exactly the same! Then what's the point of doing it 🤷
Polygraph is just some guy judging you there is no accurate result
Same with a sobriety test. Lol just someone judging you police arent infalible but you know their job isnt easy either
That attorney in the first story has to be the worst lawyer I've ever heard of. What kind of lawyer is not only gonna let their client agree to a polygraph but also agree to sit down for an hours long hostile interrogation?
IKR! That's what I kept thinking, like dude tell ya boy to SHUT UP and don't agree to ANYTHING!
They're all on the same side
They're all on the same side
While I agree I'm glad he was I mean if they couldn't question the suspect anymore who knows what would have happened
Jo's, maube he would of got what he deserved, trying to evade death penalty, he kidnapped and killed a hun. He deserves nothing but the same
Cooper should never get out of prison. My condolences to the family members of this case.
That fatal flaw not reporting that guy to the cops sealed the
fate of all those young ppl and the fate of the mgr
Both murders are horrific however the coffee shop triple murder of young people, trying to make a living should be safe, and that kind of stuff shouldn’t happen. So sad 😞
They treated the husband very badly but he responded with dignity.
He went square dancing🙄 that is not dignity - more like stupidity.
What would you expect? It is nearly always the spouse. Most everybody would know that they are going to be a suspect if their partner disappears.
So sad 😭 can't imagine my life without my husband
My wife passed away december 6th at the age of 52. I am not dealing with it well at all. But I am trying. :( Hold on with peace, love, understanding and good communications to everyone in your life. Forgive and make amends. Regret never ceases to sting and loss never ceases to bleed and ache 😿
@@Sn0wShepherd so sorry you lost your wife. May she rest in Paridise🌹🌈☀
Good cover.
My husband passed away at 43 years of age.
At 38 he was diagnosed with the most lethal type of cancer 😔
@@mestizAzteca ::HUGS:: I am so sorry for your loss. :(
I love these old shows!
Mad respect to those divers -I’m a punk when it comes to dark water and especially snakes - couldn’t do it. They shoulda been paid triple quadruple time
The perp in the first case had it made until he decided to call again and convince Mr. Roberts to get someone as an intermediary. Law enforcement was convinced that it was Mr. Roberts and they would have just continued to dig until they "found" the evidence to convict him (wrongly) of the crime.
Can you even imagine how furious you would be, if all you want is to find your wife and these pigs just keep wasting time on YOU, because that would be the easiest case for them to handle?! I swear I used to believe most cops are good, but I have seen too many instances of them overreaching for the sake of making arrests, and being lazy when it comes to doing real police work. And I'm talking just my personal experiences and those of friends and family, never mind how many times I've seen it in true crime stories.
I watched my father dig a huge hole and burn something in at night. He parked big boats in the yard to block The View from the other side of the house on the street side. Couple of nights later he dug a hole again, covering up the first one burning something else in the next one right beside the first hole. I feel he created a inground incinerator buried a body and there's nothing I can do about it because the cops are so stupid and lazy if I go to them and tell them I want to find out if there is really bones down there, they will say I did it and I don't even have pet food right now so I can't afford no attorney and I'm stuck living with this.
It happened before I went to kindergarten. And because he threatened murder suicide on our family daily, when we were growing up I couldn't do anything about it when he was alive.
@@selfesteem3447 Well I doubt you even remember the exact location if you weren't even in kindergarten yet. But if you did tell them and they did find human remains, they would be able to tell that they were buried too long ago for you to be the murderer.
@@selfesteem3447 They should be able to tell that the bones\body was from years ago and they could easily find out it was when you were a child. I doubt they would suspect you! It should be worth telling them if someone genuinely is down there. Their familys want closure! But I understand where you are coming from!
1992. Tennessee- an elderly woman named Doe aged 65 disappeared. Alan Roberts the husband of 43 years came home and found his wife wasn’t at at Home ! Alan received a call demanding a ransom of $100;000/ to handover Doe and Alan informed the police and FBI stepped in. The name Sam Wagner came up as Alan said he had a business appointment with Sam Wagner the day Doe disappeared and Sam Wagner failed to keep the appointment with Alan. Charles Lord a friend from the church agreed to help Alan Roberts to get Doe Back to him. Charles Lord was the treasurer of the Church and kept all church financial records.
Episode 2 1997- WASHINGTON DC- Coffe Shop Murders- A triple murder shocked the residents.
thanks
O ok jnnn⁹oil
*Wow, you kinda gave up on that 2nd case's description, eh?*
@@andyroid5028 lol - had enough
Thank you!
Not everyone grieve in the same manner.
We sometimes cause our own disappointment by EXPECTING others to do things a certain way, be a certain way or respond/act in a certain manner. SMH 🤦♂️
True crime fan here and it's always sad when someone's taken early, but for some reason Doe's case made me feel really bad for her. Then when I heard how they found her, it really bothered me. How awful.
@@catherineclusker7441 They never get away with it!! Karma Never ever comes back Void! At least we have That! 🌸🙋🏼♀️🇬🇧Have Great Day! ☀️
@@joncoles2089
agree, karma untouches no one.
thats why even our thinking gets us in trouble, or blessing.
all the best & worst laid plans of mice & men... began with thinking,
people don't just wake up one wednesday morning & decide to do some crazy deed,
it began with thought long before that wednesday,
unless of course it didn't...just usually i think it does...
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Feel bad for Allen, Doe's husband. He lost his beloved wife and became the main suspect for a while. Fortunately for him, he found a new love two years after he lost Doe. Both him and his new wife have passed away. Allen died in 2005 and his new wife, Esther died 10 years later.
Thank you for this info, RIP
Tnx 4 info
To be fair from what we are shown in the show he ended up showing nearly every red flag in the book
@@reginamushi6582 Why RIP? OP Is still alive loll.
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This is too sad! What world do we live in? A close friend of mid-age will do this for money!!!
To not only take money from his church but to kill a friend's wife is dooming that man's soul. That poor husband to know how his loving wife died is simply a nightmare.
Oh screw the church.. they take and take and take from everyone else and have for centuries. But poor Doe. Poor husband. He for sure is doomed.
I am very interested in knowing the outcome of the coffee shop murders story. but I am choosing to close out because there are way way too many commercials / ads. oh my God!
Cops be like, you failed a lie detection test, guilty or you passed a lie detection test, guilty. Lol. Sounds like there is no reason to take one.
Polygraph tests have been proven to be unreliable as evidence. It makes no sense to me why investigators still use them. I can imagine that even if someone is innocent, certain topics may make them feel anxious or emotional, not because they are guilty of anything, but because they are having an emotional response to the subject matter. Like being asked “did you kill your wife?” would make anyone anxious and upset, because they are now thinking about their missing and possibly dead wife.
The only thing I can think of that they might be useful for, is to gauge the suspect’s reaction to the suggestion of taking a polygraph test. Like if they flat out deny to do it, it could come off as suspicious. But at the same time, I wouldn’t want to take one even if I were innocent, because of the reasons I mentioned before. It is also possible to basically outsmart the test, as some people have crazy control over their emotions, especially if the person is a psychopath.
With the amount of DNA technology we have, as well as dozens of other means of investigating, the whole idea of a polygraph test seems silly and outdated.
@@jazzyg6298 I'm betting a sociopath could easily pass a polygraph test. I used to know a sociopath path and he could easily lie about anything without being batting an eyelash. He could convince anyone of anything. It was frightening.
They're totally not able to detect lying or untruthful answers.
They're pretty much as capable as any modern smartwatch that comes with ability to measure your heartbeat and such.
It's mostly good at picking up people in distress lol.
And a million other reasons why polygraph tests aren't admissible in any court in the US. TV totally eats it up though.
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You can only "fail" polygraph or so called lie detector tests when administered by someone who wants to put u under the jail.....polygraphs are complete BS you'd have to be a complete idiot to take one or talk to the cops at all.....just ask for a lawyer and remain silent
@@matteoluiz8666 I agree. I've seen too many times where someone innocent failed because they were just nervous. I wouldn't take one.
It's so sad that this man just wants his wife back and people looking at him judges him by his reaction to losing his wife
Mr.Robert, I am asking myself how did you survive this event...
You are a different person, a special one!
The fact that the barber shop guy said if he had been called by cooper, that he would have helped him rob the coffee shop is scary cause it means he’s a criminal and possible potential murderer who just needs an opportunity. Disgusting
You're both completely out of touch with yourselves if you think a barbershop guy who has never committed a crime is evil simply for saying that. And everyone who agrees, you're very confused. Imagine someone you care about being killed. Visualize it. Now you're as guilty as the barbershop guy. Nobody is evil simply for a thought, because nobody controls every thought they have, because if you did you wouldn't be reading this. Evil requires action. Your thoughts can only harm you, so don't bother barbershop guy about his. And before some mouth breather starts with"but he said he would blah blah blah," half of the people reading my comment thinking "I'd punch this guy in the face" wouldn't punch me in the face once they got to me. And no individual knows which half they're in. You're welcome for explaining life to you.
If you've never been at least a "potential criminal 0" at least once you probably live a pretty boring life. As far as "disgusting" I'd hate to be your poor man. I can guess everything beyond missionary with the lights off is disgusting to you. Lol
@@andrewthetruth
The weakness and thought comes first not the other way around
Satan sees the weakness
Evil manipulates the thought where weakness was already there
Self puts it into action
This is why ppl are prosecuted for there of knowledge of a crime
Even though they were not there
And also prosecuted for the level of participation
In the crime
Why the was not properly prosecuted I don't know
Definitely a failure of the DA
@@andrewthetruth
U have very corrupt view of right and wrong
And accuse many of being confused
And u are the confused one
Satan is the father of confusion
@@belindahawkins4083 ):30 Almat
RIP Jim Calstrum 🌹
You all recognize that if it hadn't been her, then it would have been someone else, and they probably wouldn't be here to give their side. Everyone is criticizing her for failing to notice the warning signs and falling for his attractions but I say bravo to this gutsy woman who acted on her suspicions and gut instinct. She could have been killed many times but God held her through the very end. Imagine turning in the love of your life for murder on television. Would you want to do that? Whether it was a look-alike or not, you would live with regret over doing so. She was courageous enough to investigate, sleep with, and lie to a man she believed to be a friend & husband. I appreciate her being willing to share this information. I'm delighted she was able to share her side of the story and assist the police in catching a killer.
I’m amazed by the guy who give anonymous tip to the police about cooper even though police couldn’t find anything
This is beyond sad. That man lost his wife, his literal life partner of over 40 years, a woman he obviously loved and cared for deeply. Just goes to show sometimes people grieve different. In a truthful way. Everybody doesn't run out screaming and hollering and crying. This man is what is considered stoic. Bless his heart.
Anyone else notice that law enforcement has so few skilled investigators that predominantly you have to be stupid to be caught by them
You must be a pretty good investigator yourself to be saying something like this.
20/20 hindsight
I beg to differ. Many get caught because of a strand of hair , a footprint , a letter which can be manipulated to the point where it provides information. Many get caught after twenty-five years because of advances. Mind boggling advances
Isnt it odd that the husband, when asked by the killer to name a representative, he names the killer??
He lacks discernment.
Special Agent Overalls is plowing through the field of suspects. 🤣
Ploughing!!
😂😂😂
“Special Agent Overalls” lol I couldn’t help but laugh at that one
Shouldn't the police have approached the nearby phone booth with no sirens/lights so their presence not be advertised?
You would think so, I know I would.
@Ronald Donner exactly my point ..ur absolutely correct i thought that do. How dumb can they be..people who apply to be the police sometime acts like the dumb criminals
Hum. Maybe they did? This is a reenactment, maybe no one in the production thought about it. 🤷
@@janbenuche7804 you good
@@janbenuche7804l I'll
The poor husband, Mr. Roberts!!! 🥺😭😭😭 praying for forgiveness for his wife's killer 😭😭😭🤲🏼🤲🏼🤲🏼🤲🏼
Both stories are over money. So sad.
And boredom in a small town, Geesh. Doe, was just minding her business, probably nice to him at church. Evil seems to love hurting happy. Nice ppl. Bored...nothing to excite him...just move away. Geesh.
Allen and Charles attended the same church when they became both good friends. Allen was a bank manager which Charles believed should not have refused his application. Because Charles knew Allen and Doe so well this sealed her fate for ransom then unfortunately DEATH. It's like Charles thought he had a RIGHT not to be refused by Allen.
Imagine trusting a member of your church to be part of figuring out what happened to your wife only to find out that person is who killed her?!
Knowing that Doe's Alive when she got buried was Horrific!
People who play with the location of the body should be additionally charged with obstruction of justice and put in isolation.
They should put the death penalty on the table. If the perpetrator reveals where the body is and the body is successfully recovered then take the death penalty off the table.
Bye 👋 Felicia🤣
Sorry I couldn’t resist 🤪
🎉😮😮😅😊
History of the universe is good to know
Everything minus the isolation. At that point it becomes additionally cruel and unusual.
Evil hiding in church 🤬
Lots of it!
A lot of the ppl who go to church support wars and think it's ok to kill old ppl, women, and even children if they're not Christian
I mean like killing non Christians in wars
Why i tend to avoid church , to many deceptive people there , they actually are money cult's , they worship money not God. Jesus himself said you don't need a church to worship him.
So needless. Killing an innocent elderly woman
Did I miss something? They never said who the man with the Asian accent was. Did Lord admit he was doing the voice?
I was wondering about the same thing, also the Asian-looking man in the thumbnail, I bet he's just the guy in the second story.
that man was made up
Yes, Lord admitted to the calls.
Lord faked the calls. Probably did an Asian accent to throw him off the suspect list
Obviously...
What a horrible neighbor and brother in faith. How ironic, his name is Lord, it should have been devil or Lucifer!
A Wolf in sheep’s clothing
More proof that nowhere is safe....not even church. It's sad how people in their close circle turned on the husband and called his way of grieving suspicious.🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️💯
Churches are unfortunately the perfect cover for people like him.
When they explained that he went back to his dancing group *a few weeks* after her disappearance, I didn't find that odd. Poor guy was probably being driven crazy sitting around his empty house all day and just wanted to feel something normal for a moment. Now, if he had collected a life insurance policy and taken some wife 30 years younger than him and skipped town to live in the Bahamas then I would be suspicious...
You’re dumb if u think church/ any place of worship is “safe” 🤦♀️ that’s where the largest demons reside everyone is demonic there
@@crystalnadeau254 So true my dad after 2 months of my mom's death left everything in Denmark and I just broke my shoulder he didn't care and went to UK and US and came back after 5 months because he couldn't see the empty house even tho my brother and I were still living there lol. Everyone grieve different and I still make him feel guilty for leaving me and he said he known me for 23 years and my mom for 50 years so that was so difficult that he didn't care about anyone at that time.
Absolutely love this channel, I’m sure the narrator is the same guy who did unsolved mysteries back in the 90’s
Robert Stack was the voice of Unsolved Mysteries. This is not Robert Stack narrating this show.
@@WesMoast it' was Trump who narrating this video
It's definitely not. That was Robert Stack.
Robert stack died over 15 years ago 😛😘
@@giamariaflynn813 ahhh sound so similar
SO DRAWN-OUT, REPETITIVE X BLAND ...20 MIN WOULD HAVE SUFFICED...NEVER AGAIN❤❤❤
A really crazy evil man ..
All those women that are involved indirectly should have gone to prison..wife , girlfriends and mother and all
What a despicable excuse for a human being. Poor Doe....AND, her husband. Who would've ever expected a evil man like that, in their midst. Truly innocent victims.
He was a wolf in sheep's clothing. :(
Special agent OVERALLS!?
REALLY!?.......😬🤯🤭🤣
33:39 that cop played a bad guy in a different episode lol
Inspector Overalls, what a name
Why would you wanna forgive him he’s a bloody sick monster. Poor poor wife what a way to go. You gotta be careful of who you make your friends you just have to.
Forgiveness doesn't mean you don't hold a person responsible, it just allows you no longer feel driven to retaliate. Being wronged so horribly there is always that below the surface need for hate driven revenge, and what is given in sentence is never enough. Forgiving allows you to let that go, knowing that they have to live with the sentence and themselves until they die and then at final judgment.
@@topherjoe1 only people who really didn’t love their deceased could forgive the person who killed them.
Why is it the narrator says the safe had not been opened during the robbery but the pictures taken during the initial investigation shows the safe IS open?
Watching from Gambia this man is wicked
As soon as I heard the words CHURCH and SQUARE DANCING I knew there was foul play.
@TPHVICTIMS 😂
Cooper is a classic example of why certain brand of young men will never be free in their lifetime!
Wtf does this mean?
You must mean should not will
Oh, poor Doe. Although Doe didn't drown, Lord should have been waterboarded just so He could have a taste of what Doe might have experienced if she did suffocate to death.
The great narrator of FBI Files
Good episode! Love the narrator's voice and the fact I can here it!
Hold on here! Who's the voice behind the narrator??? I just love his voice and I need to see his face...
Anthony Call.
Osama
Jimmy Savile
@@tim9037 hahahahahah
@@tim9037 what has a predator pedophile Jimmy venom Saville gotta do with the narrator..really get educated
Why does lord look like bubbles from trailer park boys if he was a senior citizen? 🤣
Ahhh the good ol days. When you could say "spoke with an Asian accent" and nobody boycotts your show until you apologize.
Now he mentioned being convinced they would find some bones or makeup, wtf this guy smoking? I don't get why she would have any sort of make on her person when fetching mail ffs
Poor Do😥😥- her poor husband
Hmm, I still think he was in on it.
Why didn't the police wiretap and set up a camera to record mailbox inserts right away? And then their equipment didn't work! The incompetence is breathtaking.
First class viewing and audio AAA+++
I like how he tried to blame an Asian.
Lord being a important church member must have a very influential character, but no where to run when it worked.
This happened back when Americans thought the FBI were the good guys and were proud of the world's premiere law enforcement agency.
this would be a nice case for "coffeehouse crime" lol
Yes! Great channel isn't it. 🤗
Omg yes or also That Chapter.
@@Kaigirl27 No I just meant because of the title “coffee shop killings”
@@REALdavidmiscarriage omg 😳 I thought you were talking about the TH-cam channel 🤦🏽♀️
@@Kaigirl27No you were right I was! I said that this case would be perfect for the coffeehouse crime youtube channel because of the coffeeshop theme lol
He was part of their church and she trusted him. He killed her in the worse possible way by buring her alive. What a monster!
FBI doesn’t even give that much as a reward. They usually start around $10,000. But corporate and businesses were giving $100,000. That’s saying something.
What a terrible nightmare.
Gas prices were $1.33 a gallon when this was filmed!
Lol "Special Agent Overalls"...🤣🤣
Why do criminals keep trying to use lye to speed decomposition? Haven't they seen all these shows where it ALWAYS does the opposite and preserve the body?
I thought it was to cover the smell?!😅
Lye is to cover the smell dude not for decomposition man
I have a method and it works but I can't tell over here.
They said LIME not LYE
@41 mins:
in 110° heat,
21 divers muck around looking for a body,
in a muddy river with zero visibility, several species of venomous snakes, searching by hand...no body,
the kidnapper lied,
he had buried the woman near septic tank in his back yard.
He buried her under his compost heap.
What's the name of the permanent narrator? Out of all the true crime podcasts and programs, he is the only one I like to listen to. It soothes me.
Peter Thomas. He was born and raised in Pensacola, Florida.
Main take away from the first story, never trust a man of the church!
I had a guy with an Asian accent call me too. Something about my cars warranty.
Why didn’t the murdered victims family’s notice they never came home?
21:20 $1.33 for Gas! ⛽️ Those were the days!
Just because a person does not show emotions where & when you expect them to, may only be evidence of their reluctance to display emotions in public.
You have no way to know, if they _"grieve in private"_ or not.
Besides, people grieve in a variety of different, and sometimes irrational ways.
(can't confirm guilt, from emotional reactions to traumatic events)
True. When my mom told me that my dad had died, I started smiling and almost laughing at first, and I was honestly completely shocked by that initial reaction of mine. I seriously worried if was a sociopath, however, I didn’t truly even grieve until a few years later. He took his own life only a month after I had turned 18, and it was after my mom and I had moved out due to his constant emotional abuse he inflicted on her. I had only recently developed a good relationship with my father as well. I know that I had to be strong for my mom who was devastated, shocked and heart broken, and that’s likely why it took so long for me to start the grieving process. But honestly, God forbid she had given me the news in front of the sheriff’s that went to do the welfare check on him, because they very well may have questioned me further or even assumed I had something to do with it. So yeah, you nailed it, the way people show their emotions and grieve can be a highly individual process.
@@ChevyGirl-1984 Yes indeed.
I've seen every reaction to emotional trauma you could imagine.
There is no set way to react, but some people will judge you by what they expect to see.
_Police could use some education in trauma psychology._
Best wishes to you Amy, thanks for sharing.
I agree. Also, he has to keep it together so he can get his wife back. He must have been under enormous stress.
That Joe Birch,looks and sounds like Chris Hansen.
Story #1 - Killed for money. Story #2 - Killed for money.
This is The FBI Filer from the 90s.
Thanks!