Running 2 Train Engines With 2 Jobs at the SAME TIME as a Solo Engineer!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- Hey everyone and welcome to Derail Valley Overhauled! Today we are trying to make up for the complete failure of the last episode by running 2 engines with 2 jobs at the same time! In this episode we're going to arrange and load a massive train of multiple jobs in order to make as much money as possible with only a single trip!
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"... we gotta go left. then we gotta make sure we don't go left because...." then a few moments later "we got a switch coming up... and it's set to the right. that is perfect".... 🤣I knew I heard the sound of hundreds of people facepalming at the same moment earlier
Cum
Love KAN's thought process
'I tried doing one load with one train and it went horribly wrong, so this time I'm going to make it twice as hard by doing 2 loads with 2 trains at the same time. What could possibly go wrong'😂
I think you mean his train of thought
@@laurinneff4304 ba dum tssss
Kan- "need to turn left at this coming switch and then right and right and right then we there"
Future Kan- "switch is to the right... perfect"
Even more Future Kan- "WE'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY??? HOW DID I MISS THE SWITCH!"
Thank you kan for being you.
I legit facepalmed at that lol
Turning in haul jobs also generated shunting jobs to break the train back down and unload it. Then THAT generates new shunting jobs to rebuild a train. Circle of Yard Life.
Hey kAN, few tips.
1: You're using the automatic brake way too aggressively. Just give it little taps. Hyce shows how to do it pretty well in his videos.
2: You can use the valve on the brake lines to brake from with the cars. Open it up, air flows out and brakes engage. Again though, use little taps so you don't end up locking up.
3: If you're planning to do more shunting jobs, try to get the remote control unit. Allows you to operate diesel engines (DE2/DE6) from afar, makes shunting incredibly easy.
I do also recommend getting the steam train before the De6 because it can haul a lot and is cheaper than the De6. You can haul longer trains with the steam engine, so it's easier to grind for the De6
22:53 “all right we’ve got to go left at the next switch” *goes right at the switch *
When shunting I tend to stand on the last car and just open its brake valve for a while once it has passed the switch I need to reverse into. By the time I jumped back to the locos pressure is already up again. This is especially useful if you start doing more than 2 jobs simultaneously (concurrent jobs 2 allows you to do as many as you like)
Hey Kan just wanted to say. because I have a feeling you might not actually read the license when you do buy it and then you'll miss it. With the concurrent jobs 2 license you can have as many jobs active at the same time as you want. The 1st license has a limit the 2nd doesn't
concurrent jobs 2 will let you take as many jobs as you want at once (ive had 100+ long trains doing this) also it is required to have before you can get the DE6 license anyway there's also special items at certain shops the key to that shed you found and the caboose inside are at the city shop there's also a loco remote at the MF town shop that is nice for shunting or controlling a rear loco
The multiple unit license lets you couple as many engines as you want
"As many diesels as you want"
Wallet: **gulp**
What do you need to operate the cool steam locomotive?
@@Mr.AtheTriggerGalleon6310 only for Diesel engines
@@Mr.AtheTriggerGalleon6310 you need the sh282 license
Very happy to see more Derail Valley content from you Kan! I love the series and I as someone who’s played the game myself watching you learn and getting a handle of the game is very enjoyable. Keep up the good content! 😜
this game is kinda calming, and love the environment design
Relly trying to get to 1k comments are we? lol
26:16 the shed has a caboose in it, you can get the key from the shop at machine factory and town
Buy the sh282. It is the steamer. Chep to run, needs a lot of involvement, but when you manage to run it properly, it is a beast
"Why are there so many jobs?" Because the harbor is where everything is sold and it's the largest station in the game
Thanks for that! Coupling two of these Shunting-Locos helped me to climb the hill in order to get my first freight haul outside of Harbour and Town.
The steam train (in my opinion) is a lot harder to operate than the De6. I typically have a De6 behind an unpowered shunter for the view and control accessibility.
Steam train is more fun however ;P
True.
Hey Kan, IRL you dont want the brake valves to be open at all, so if you uncouple you would open first the valves and then disconnect the pipes and if you wanna make sure a train doesnt move you need a minimum of 2 Handbrakes or 4 drag shoes but those things dont exist in the game yet and i never had train cars just start rolling away in this game so you dont really need it anyway. Sorry if you didnt wanted that information just figured you might be interested in it and sorry if its inaccurate for america since i work for a european railway company i dont know a lot about the american railways.
Also train engineers are only allowed to brake the train for two hours with air since after that time its likely to fail and start rolling.
I gota say, I love the realistic aspect of this game and how kan tackles it
Glad to see your back with this I thought you might of given up due to wallet thickness LOL. Glad to see you at it again. Once you have completed the Loading the job becomes a contract to accept in the station office. Added advantage = Loco is already coupled and ready. (I Obviously made this comment a bit early). Lol.. Run as many locos as you can find on the multi licence. I Had 5 on my last play through. You're correct in assuming you only need extra loco power for uphill pulling. DE2 Pulls 400 tons each on level track. I just turn extra loco ignitions off when consist weight is lighter than the pulling power. Then I Turn ignitions on again for inclines. The "Jut off" is your house. It does nothing, It's just a place you can look at if passing. the shed is where the caboose is but you need to buy a key from a shop but I can't remember which one.
You got the brakes correct. The main brake works over the entire train as long as the brake pipe is connected. Independent brakes (small handle) only works on the one engine until you buy the MU license and connect the MU cable. Honestly, MU license and the remote are the most useful licenses early on. Can setup 2 to 4 DE2s up front then have a banker set in rear remote controlled with all engines in front and rear sets hooked up for MU. I know MU works with 4 engines at least, think more and it lets you use them as a single engine.
my last hual was 1 steam and 4 shunts. 2k tons.... That was interesting.
Be careful using multiple engines as you get more lisences the fees get bigger
Yeah but you gotta admit he needed two shunters to succeed at running that big of a train. Now maybe a DR pro could have done it with 1 engine and came out cheaper but it really needed both for the average player.
Definitely get that remote. And that multiple unit. And once you have the remote, then seek out the caboose, the caboose will extend your range on your remote.. Shunting can make you lots of extra income. Harbor Town and Food town are the best. Once you get through all that, the Military is fun, and be very lucrative as well. And you are right, getting to the destination safely is important. Good job on the video.
Using diesels in a multiple unit config means: what you do and read in one engine counts for the others as well (throttle, reverser, ind. brakes, temp) no matter whether they are on or off (you can control the other engines even though the one you are currently in has no engine turned on). i would not recommend doing hauls with a de6 coupled to a de2 (both on, wheel slip tolerances are different)
Your videos inspired me to play derail valley. If you plan on staying in the harbor for a wile, get hazmat then manual service. You need to check out the shops (small blue buildings in some station marked on the map). One of the best shop items in the remote, allowing you to remotely control your train and see exact speed limit and break amount.
I've watched the last few vids of yours on derail valley and I'm not even sure why your vids came up on my recommended but the algorithm was in your favor and I'm not disappointed lol I didnt even know this game existed lmao cant wait till you get the big loco's!!!
When running a long load, you will want to wait for the rear of the train to pass the speed limit sign before speeding up. If you don't the back of the train could derail. Love the vids, please keep doing them!
You should grab the remote control (found at one of the stores, for 25k) it allows you to remotely control a diesel engine, and is great for shunting or having a second loco in the back that you can control separately. SH282 is also a good investment as it is a lot cheaper than the DE6, and a real handful to manage (you would also need the shovel and lighter).
You also would have been better taking the main line toward the steel mill and take the bend just before, than taking the southern route. The southern route is a mess, constant speed and elevation changes, and very twisty.
Only at machine factory IIRC for the remote
Dapper bought that silly remote control for 25k and it went horribly wrong. I think it's useless. Poor Dapper.
@@Mr.AtheTriggerGalleon6310 it's useful if you know what you are doing with it =P
@@Mr.AtheTriggerGalleon6310 That is because Dapper did not understand it's use very well, he was not aware of the keys to use it, and did not apply it in the best manner.
It is fantastic for shunting, as you no longer need to be on the train, you can stand at the switch your long train needs to pass before reversing. You can ride the rearmost car and accurately control the brakes while reversing to connect more cars without damage.
You can even do something they do in modern railroading, control a rear locomotive from the front engine to help brake/power the train on inclines at different rates.
never got the MU license i have all but military 3, MU, and the steam engine Kan i love your videos so entertaining.
Hey Kan, I recommend you to put your map on the desk on right next to the throttle, you will see your position all the time (zoom it if needed by RMB). For me it was game changer, I could watch speed limits, tracks and map in the same time without covering half of the screen
For me it’s kinda tiny, I have to zoom everytime I want to see the map
Shunting in my opinion is a good way to make money. I went station to station with my shunter and only did shunting jobs and unlocked DE6 quite quickly.
Kan if you look at the boards in the office where you pick jobs, you will find a logistical table. That shows the industrial logistics of the whole game. So at some places you can only load and not unload. Also, there is certain cycle that you follow in this game. Suppose you are starting with empty cars in one station. So cycle goes as follows :-
1 - Shunting(SH) - Arrange and load empty cars with goods and keep it on outbound track. It may vary tho, from having all empty cars together and having simple loading job to putting the pieces of different cars together fist and then load. This generates that jobs after you complete shunting.
2 - Freight Haul(FH) - Simplest job. Deliver the arranged train to destination station. Remember, whenever doing FH job, the track where they need to arrive at will always be empty. Not completely true for Logistical Haul tho.
3 - Shunting (SH) - Reverse of previous Shunting job, you have to unload this time. And you may or may not have to break and store the train as well.
From here it can go 2 ways, You might either generate a new Shunting job of those cars or Logistical Haul job. If you get Shunting, Step 1 is repeated again. For Logistical haul, a new step is generated.
4 - Logistical Haul (LH) - In this job, you take empty cars back to their origin station afaik. It is similar to FH jobs to some respect, but there are some catches. One of those being you may or may not have other train cars on both origin and/or destination stations. So you might need to shunt even before getting your cars. And this is the reason why you get extra few minutes for LH then FH going the same destination. Also, they pay less than FH, but are lighter. That is why LH License cost 20k cause these jobs would bankrupt early players. LH is mid game license.
One more thing about shunting. It mentions whether it is unloading or loading job. If it is unloading, the station the job is created at will be below other station on job sheet, meaning it came from the above station. If it is loading, the destination station is below. You can use this info to prepare and take multiple jobs to same destination.
I am greatly enjoying your newfound obsession with trains
You should check out that shed. It's pretty neat. But you need something from City SW though.
EDIT: Go to the shop in Harbor and Town...There's a little gold friend that you're gonna luv to have. It's decently expensive but you should make the /time/ to check it out.
Saw people demanding more RRO vids on that Zeepkist D-track stream, but this series is pretty dang good too.
A few tips:
-Get the Logistical Haul license even if you don't do them, the license is the only one to give you a positive time bonus, even if it isn't a lot, (+3%)
-Visit the shop at Harbor & Town if you want something to keep track of time :)
kAN, you are nuts man lol. great content! hope you unlock the steam locomotive soon so the real fun can begin =D. since you like running multiple engines, get multiple unit license next. make it a lot less stressful when you can control many shunters from just one shunter.
You should also look into getting the remote control. You can buy it from a shop at one of the towns. It's really helpful for shunting and also makes running two trains easier without the multiple license because you can remote control the second train.
He already owns it
Wait nvm I’m thinking of someone eles
The DE6 is a very good engine and almost impossible to get Wheelslip with but the maintenece cost is very high...
when you have a item in hand you can press alt and then freely look around it and roght click zooms
FYI: You can couple as many multiples together. I've run 4 shunters before, same amount of pull power as the DE6. I'd suggest getting the concurrent II (infinite jobs) and manual service at the same time
Manual service will save you half the service cost. Right now, his insurance copay was only about third. Until it gets more expensive, I would spend my money elsewhere.
@28:47 I guess this is because those are diesel-electric-shunters / engines, where the diesel engine powers a generator instead of the drivetrain. The drivetrain is powered by electric motors, which get their electric power from those diesel powered generator(s). As you may know electric motors do have enormous torque when they are doing low or even no RPMs (when getting powered by electricity) but the torque usually decreases at higher RPMs. This is why you get wheelslip very easily when starting off with a train at for example 50% throttle than at higher speeds at 50% throttle applied because those electric motors do have a higher RPM and lower torque when going faster.
Please correct me, if I'm wrong.
(Sorry, my English is maybe not the best, but I hope you understand what I mean)
Nice video by the way, i really enjoy watching all of them. 👍🏻😊
Finnaly sum real train action, and may I add that this channel is slowly turnin into a train channel, like next thing you kno he be duin sum train spotting
You're inspiring me to try this, but control the 2nd engine with the remote. It should work theoretically. It's worth a shot :)
One small shunter engine can haul up to 400 tons. Train mass is always written in the mission description.
On flat ground sure but doing some of those grades at that limit would be a fools errand
@@ram89572 I hauled up to 320 tons on a +2 grade, but oh boy was it painful
The de3 can haul 400 tons, the sh 282 can haul 1000 tons, and the de6 can haul 1400 tons with lottle to no wheel slip
For multiple jobs you can assemble the train first and move it to the mainline, then accept the jobs. As long as you don't leave the station, the jobs remain valid despite you moving them, the books only show where they spawned and not if you moved them though.
Recommend keeping the books in your inventory if you do this though.
Edit: Am dumb, just got to said point in the video.
So glad seeing this again
You did good this ep kan but once you pay the insurance fee the fuel and sand will be taken care of but the Insurance also converted any adds wear and tear fees till you get to serviceing the train manually to cut the insurance fee down because there will be a point when the insurance fee will be high and it will be more likely when you take multiply units and start taking the de6 that when the fee will start to be high.
There are a few stations that have a shop, you might want to check those out when you find them.
I did 2 long 1 and a long 2 at once from food to harbor. 72 minutes cruise with like 30 odd cars. I have the multi and remote to make that much easier.
Lots goes to and from the harbor so yes many jobs.
This is the only video I have watched on this game and it made me buy it! Great video kAN!
Same as I commented on Hyce's DV video recently, you mentioned multiplayer and how you wish DV had it. Check out the mods, theres a mod for multiplayer and you should download it asap!
That shed has a secret in it. I think it's the caboose, the hand car, or an employee unit car
But random places will have keys for sale, and they're for that shed
Food factory has the key for the handcar and City South-West has the keys for the caboose
@HorizonSniper __ thank you! I haven't really done any of the exploring, I just know it's there.
5:45 "This is just shunting!" Yes, kAN, the shunting job IS just shunting lol.
That being said, shunting jobs that say Station At 》 Different Station (like the one you did) are basically building and loading ready to deliver; Different Station 》 Station At are taking a delivered train, unloading, and storing empty cars.
Yeah, the jobs kinda connect to each other
that shed is where the caboose spawns when you buy reginald’s garage key.
grind for the steam engine its a beast
One thing you can do, if you're riding on the back of a train, is use it's brake line to dump air from the brakes to slow the train without running back to the engine.
The DE6 Is pretty and Powerful. Its also very expensive AND There are lots of penalties ie. bonus times go down, copay prices go up etc. Self service is OK But tedious, Steam is OK But Get used to route layouts first. Don't forget that the two contracts you just put on the "I" Incoming rails are now available as shunting jobs. TBH I'd get the multiple unit and multiple jobs 2. Then find jobs for the MIDDLE route to steel mill, farm, EMPTY cars to Oil well Central (I Don't think you need hazmat for empties), City SW and Machine factory. Then do a return journey from Machine factory to those depots back to the harbour. There's only 1 significant incline which is just after the steel mill and ALL switches are set to go into those depots. However All City SW Tracks are dead ends so i'd reverse in OR Miss that depot but remember point is set to go into it. This is best tactic I reckon, To get some serious $$$ Plus gets you used to that route. You might not get bonus but the journey will keep you busy.
Close the brake valve to the train before disconnecting the line so you don't have to repressurize it before moving again
The self maintenance license is a blessing and a curse your fees get cheaper to maintain rolling stock and your engines but your insurance goes up
Would love to see more of this game
I blame CTC for not aligning the switches for you. LOL
To check time u can go into any office and submit it in if your not in the destination it won't accept it but will tell u current time
The thing with the Train Brake is you only put it on for a moment. It takes longer to release than apply them. Unlike the Independent which is only the brakes on the Engine.
Use the independend it does not have the delay of the other that keeps breaking even after you turned it off
after finishing a shunting job from A to B his transport should appear in the station A to go to B, if instead you have B in the station that has arrived in A, the transport does not appear at the end
You managed to keep it on the rails,
obviously not enough practice time with HYCE .. :P
Ah yes, Kan the maintenance man’s friend. Setting traction motors on fire by going full reverse as the train moves forwards….
Finallyyyyy I was wondering when you were gonna post another vid on this game
Go for logistics license. It has no extra insurance penalty and gives you bonus time. Or go for manual service to save on costs
using 2 lokokotibs are quite great, take a great look at BR Class 13
Buy the SH82, it's very strong!
love your vids
Wow kan such a good and new intro😂
With the multi unit license you hookup the emu line between the locomotives and then you control all of the locomotives that are connected from just one locomotive
You should save for the bigger engines cuz they’re cool
35:05 actually you don´t want to leave that open. If you have to pull them from the other side you will have to walk all the way back to close that valve, but first you will ask yourself why the brake pressure is not building up. Only leave the valve open for some time to get the car brakes applied in a full braking state (don´t know the correct english word). Brake states are determined by the pressure in the brake line and how the air control valves will convert it to the air break cylinder of the cars.
You should get the military one. It sounds like you could get some good jobs with that
What I would do for the next license you get get either the bigger engine or the multiple engine depending on which one is cheaper
Yea, sounds good to me!
I want MORE of this :D
+2.2 you panic +0.6 you sigh -0.9 you sqeal with excitement -2.7 you scream in horror
Thus is the train driver way
23:45 "How did I miss that switch?"
Well, you said to yourself to go right to avoid that jut off point so often, that when it came time you went right and said to yourself "We're going right, that's good." When you *should* have gone left, then right, then right again, and right.
It would be a good idea to use your car brakes a little bit more. Morning little pups of air through a train move through the train like a wave and air does take time to build back up if you dump it
I even leave one engine turned off if I have a lighter load and don’t need both with the multi-license.
Yeah, jobs do not spawn out of nowhere. Frieght Haul > Shunting Unload > Logistics Haul > Shunting Load > Frieght Haul
KAN u definitely need to buy the DE6 license next, because as you buy more licenses the fees will be more and u will notice jobs won't pay that good compared to cost, so either now or u will have a hard time grinding for the loco
Did you know hyce just made a video about the passenger cars coming to rro
Hello kan the next license you could acquire can be sh282 it will give you access to sh282 steam locomotive it dan pull upto 700 T and has a decent acceleration
Kan if you're shunting brake pipes don't have to be Connected standard railroad practice
Hey kan u should try use less brake but more time like only 1 or 2 notches also use scroll wheel
dang it kAN! i’m trynna be productive!
"only" bruh Im rocking a solid 20
love this series!
multiunit licence is 2 or more engines
Freight Trains IRL be like: 12:15
Every single time with the break, 'That might have been to much', it's not a car break, dump some air, quick burst, let it flow through the train.
man, really want to see multiplayer in this game, that would be so cool!
Hello, flying pancake man