I’ve got a 2500B with 2000 loader and a 584 with 2200 loader, love them both. If you take care of them and remember that you’re on a tractor and not a track loader they’ll last a long time.
Thanks for covering this ff. I am looking for a way to load round bales on my bale wagon in the field without moving a skid steer around from field to field anymore. I know these aren’t ideal loader tractors, but they’re a lot cheaper than another skid steer, and I’m a low budget type guy. Plus I already have a 400 just sitting here. Lol. Take care.
They do fit several models! IH would sell em with different mounting brackets for various tractors! You’d go to your local IH dealer and say Fred I want to buy a loser for my 656 or 706 etc and he’d sell you the loader for that tractor! That same loader would be sold for other models according to IH instruction and mounting brackets etc! Had two neighbors years ago bought the same loader for two different tractors from IH ! Thanks for making me recall these memories! Great video!
LOL there fanatic this is guy from Butler county. We move our bales but the 385 and a 2200 loader. Most of the guys that I run into in this part of the country always saw the 1066 was too big of tractor to ruin as you say quote ruin with a loader. I ran into a guy from Iowa Illinois Nebraska somewhere out there mentioned something about a neighbor having a 1066 and how they did in their heavy field work with he said oh yeah we have a little one like that we move round bales with it it just seemed kind of funny to me to use the tractor that big for moving around bales
I use a 1466 with a off brand loader to move bale. You use what u have at hand. It runs the cutter,rake baler and a 15ft shredder for cleanup jobs. Whatever I need it for is what it gets used forcan look silly at times🤣
Looks great that loader. I was looking at a tractor other day wanted you to call me but it's okay it sold now. He sold it for 400 running was small one with cultivators. Thanks your video have a good night
That loader is just right for the 400 as far as being the right size and right fit for the tractor. We used a comparable Du-Al loader on a W-450 and it worked great. They cut it off with age with the 40/60 series tractors, but they also looked at hydraulic capacity. The 400 hydraulics are hardly adequate to run a loader not only because of pressure, but oil capacity. The 60 series tractors are the first to use Hy-Tran and run the hydraulic oil in the transmission, and by doing so, they greatly increased the reservoir capacity (8+ gallons rather than a gallon and a half.) Think about the rods of the cylinders... All four of them when fully extended... That's how much your reservoir drops. When you only have a gallon and a half, that eats it up pretty much all of it. When loaders were put on antique tractors, they typically had a PTO pump and larger tank to address that problem. The Du-Al loaders incorporated a hydraulic reservoir in the loader frame, and other manufactures have had similar ideas. The 2000 loader is much newer than the 400. I question using a 966 or 1066 on it, just as much as a 240 or B414. I wouldn't put much more than a 706 on it, but wouldn't put less than a 460 on it. The 2350 is just right on a 1066. We have a 2350 on a 1086, and it is just right for the tractor. We've never had a 2000 loader, so this is new to me... Thanks for the video again...
Good day Yrs. ago we had 414, it had 1501 loader, it had centre cylinder for bucket. I have dunham-lehr on 574, you can lift back wheel off ground Thanks
Interesting. I've got a brother named Larry and I am leaving that right there! Interesting about the loaders. Loader tractors are cool. Love the utility models with loaders.
Ok, FF, I'll bite long time Farmall man now running a Massey 135 that has a two position clutch, power steering and a heavy front axle....will a 2000 or 2001 loader retro fit to my tractor? As a AWS certified welder anything can be done but... .am I just cobbling something together? Still gotta be better than an M with same set up....what do you think?
@@FarmallFanatic I got eyes on a wide front M with a 3 point but the next tractor I buy I want to be able to put that loader on it off my 2444. That thing is wore out from the rooter to the tooter lol
If you know , do tell me what actually drives the PTO on these tractors. I understand that they have the clutch, and brake pack on the rear with the big handle. I need to know what actually drives the shaft going back to that clutch pack. I know these tractors didn't have a 2 stage clutch. So I'm trying to figure out how that shaft is driven all the time when the transmission clutch is disabled.
@@FarmallFanatic The M, H was driven from the transmission, and would stop when the clutch pedal was pressed in. The 350 maybe the 300 ,but I know the 350 , and 450 had that clutch pack on the back. Somehow the shaft of going to it was driven any time the engine was running. I'm trying to figure out what drove that shaft. Like did they have a hydraulic motor that turned the PTO shaft all the time??? As I said I understand the clutch pack on the rear of the tractor, it's the shaft going to it that I don't understand how it gets it's power. Hope I explained, hope you have the answer.
There were a lot of tractors these 2000 and 2001 loaders would fit that weren't listed, because the dimensions and mounting holes for the front brackets are the same. Anything from an M up through a 1456 has the same bolt pattern and distance between the frame rails at the front. The only difference is wheelbase and shape of the axle housing, square or hex. Easy enough to modify the back frame.
@@FarmallFanatic yes. It even has truck tires on the front because the load was too heavy for the IH tires. There's also a winch on the back that was on a old army truck from WW2 that used to work on the farm. The winch was on a jalopy to hall wood and was put on the tractor so they could continue to use the winch. Unfortunately my grandfather never got the pto hooked to it so now it is just a counter wate for the loader.
What was added to be able to use on the M. I have a loader but trying to figure out how to hook up to run. Would i need a belt driven pump in addition from my belly pump??
I had both a 2000 and 2001 loader there are same loader really only difference I see in two is the 2000 is a double ram tip and the 2001 is a single ram tip or a trip bucket like mine was
I have a ih 444 with a 2001 loader I'm wanting to install but I don't know where the hoses hook to on my tractor I'm wanting to not have to hook them to my wet lines
My uncle baught what was my grandpas diesel 544 it has a 2000 loader on it with bale forks and it had a year round cab it was the first tractor i ever drove
@@FarmallFanatic oh my yes and i was very lucky my grandpa had a gas and diesel version that i got to run/operate he also had a 544 utility but sold it to a local before i was born but i did get a chance to operate it
...if I remember correctly.....my friend had one on a 544 utility with hydrostatic drive...but can't remember if it was. 2000 or 2001..... .... ..BOOM.....!!!
Actually had a 574 utility with a 1550 on it those were not a real well-built loader setup they were more for just a basic utility tractor operation where you didn't use them all the time not like we had for a dairy farm. We had a 450 with a farmhand loader and we could wear a bucket out about twice a year on that lol The 2000 on the 756 was the best
Seems like most 560s with loaders I've been around, looked liked whoever owned it just hated them, did their best to trash them,as long the bitch started and ran it was good enough
Well 1066 is the same exact tractor as a 14 or 1566. Just they had bigger engines. The frame was the exact same. So if it fit a 1066 then it would fit a 1466. Just the bigger tractor could very well break the loader or bend something with the extra power
@@FarmallFanatic no probably not. But if a man gets desperate for a tool he needs then he'll make it work. But man if that's the case then prob even 1066 would break it🤷♂️
The 1566 is a completely different tractor. They are heavier throughout and instead of having a 4 speed transmission with High/ Low range, the 1566 has a 3 speed with high/ low range. The 1566 has larger axles too. But as far as the frame goes, yes you're right. It would bolt right onto the 1466.
Some day, I’ll get a 1000 loader even though they look stupid. They’re good for picking things up and putting them down as well as a good conversation piece. 😖
This was a great help you are 1 🏆🇺🇸❤️
I love how you explain everything you know about the tractors and the equipment you got . Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us all the time !!
I’ve got a 2500B with 2000 loader and a 584 with 2200 loader, love them both. If you take care of them and remember that you’re on a tractor and not a track loader they’ll last a long time.
I agree
Thanks for covering this ff. I am looking for a way to load round bales on my bale wagon in the field without moving a skid steer around from field to field anymore. I know these aren’t ideal loader tractors, but they’re a lot cheaper than another skid steer, and I’m a low budget type guy. Plus I already have a 400 just sitting here. Lol. Take care.
Well I'm living proof that it works
Loader tractors are handy as can be. I really like the allied quick attach loader on the newer 656
Yeah you'll never beat a quick attach
Its convenient
Boy..alot to learn about these tractors...you're very knowledgeable
You’ve got a knack for good educational videos👌🏻good job hoss 👍
Boom 💥
Great information your sharing 👍
They do fit several models! IH would sell em with different mounting brackets for various tractors! You’d go to your local IH dealer and say Fred I want to buy a loser for my 656 or 706 etc and he’d sell you the loader for that tractor! That same loader would be sold for other models according to IH instruction and mounting brackets etc! Had two neighbors years ago bought the same loader for two different tractors from IH ! Thanks for making me recall these memories! Great video!
really good loaders in my opinion
@@FarmallFanatic I agree! Well built.
watching your videos makes me FARMSICK i wish i was back on the family 200 acre farm on my H and M.
LOL there fanatic this is guy from Butler county. We move our bales but the 385 and a 2200 loader. Most of the guys that I run into in this part of the country always saw the 1066 was too big of tractor to ruin as you say quote ruin with a loader. I ran into a guy from Iowa Illinois Nebraska somewhere out there mentioned something about a neighbor having a 1066 and how they did in their heavy field work with he said oh yeah we have a little one like that we move round bales with it it just seemed kind of funny to me to use the tractor that big for moving around bales
I use a 1466 with a off brand loader to move bale. You use what u have at hand. It runs the cutter,rake baler and a 15ft shredder for cleanup jobs. Whatever I need it for is what it gets used forcan look silly at times🤣
Pick things up and put them down 💪 great informative video FF
Great video
Another interesting factual video 💪💥👍
Looks great that loader. I was looking at a tractor other day wanted you to call me but it's okay it sold now. He sold it for 400 running was small one with cultivators. Thanks your video have a good night
Farmallfanatic@yahoo.com
One lever on my 340 was broke Clean off. How does that happen? Larry must have owned my 340 too
People man smh
That loader is just right for the 400 as far as being the right size and right fit for the tractor. We used a comparable Du-Al loader on a W-450 and it worked great. They cut it off with age with the 40/60 series tractors, but they also looked at hydraulic capacity. The 400 hydraulics are hardly adequate to run a loader not only because of pressure, but oil capacity. The 60 series tractors are the first to use Hy-Tran and run the hydraulic oil in the transmission, and by doing so, they greatly increased the reservoir capacity (8+ gallons rather than a gallon and a half.) Think about the rods of the cylinders... All four of them when fully extended... That's how much your reservoir drops. When you only have a gallon and a half, that eats it up pretty much all of it. When loaders were put on antique tractors, they typically had a PTO pump and larger tank to address that problem. The Du-Al loaders incorporated a hydraulic reservoir in the loader frame, and other manufactures have had similar ideas. The 2000 loader is much newer than the 400. I question using a 966 or 1066 on it, just as much as a 240 or B414. I wouldn't put much more than a 706 on it, but wouldn't put less than a 460 on it. The 2350 is just right on a 1066. We have a 2350 on a 1086, and it is just right for the tractor. We've never had a 2000 loader, so this is new to me... Thanks for the video again...
Im about to get me a 2250 mount a matic loader.... I hope it holds up good on a 544... its coming off a 656
It'll fit perfectly.
we had one on a 784 heavy loader pretty sure you need power beyond hyds for it to work properly
@@ihguy2113 well for right now the hydratouch connections will have to do
It'll work just fine, although you will have to modify the mounts...
@@tyfrank3427 the mounts fit exactly the same... on the 544 the front mounts just sit one hole further ahead
Great info.
Thanks for watching!
Good day Yrs. ago we had 414, it had 1501 loader, it had centre cylinder for bucket. I have dunham-lehr on 574, you can lift back wheel off ground Thanks
Interesting. I've got a brother named Larry and I am leaving that right there! Interesting about the loaders. Loader tractors are cool. Love the utility models with loaders.
I blamed your brother
@@FarmallFanatic long story
Pretty interesting! 👍👍
Thank you Farmall 💪❤️
Ok, FF, I'll bite long time Farmall man now running a Massey 135 that has a two position clutch, power steering and a heavy front axle....will a 2000 or 2001 loader retro fit to my tractor? As a AWS certified welder anything can be done but...
.am I just cobbling something together? Still gotta be better than an M with same set up....what do you think?
I think it would be a lot of loader for that machine
@@FarmallFanatic thanks, needed your advice.....
Hey buddy, u just answered my questions before I even asked you !
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Do think a 2050 off a 2444 with work on a farmall M? It has its own front mounted pump for the loader and controls
I mean you can make almost anything work
@@FarmallFanatic I got eyes on a wide front M with a 3 point but the next tractor I buy I want to be able to put that loader on it off my 2444. That thing is wore out from the rooter to the tooter lol
I have the 240U and can’t imagine putting that 2000 loader on her. Maybe my 560 but never something that small.
I agree
I think the 2000 loader was for rowcrop farmalls and the 2001 was built for international utility tractors.
Well I showed the brochure and I surely didn't write it
I had a 2000 IH loader on my Oliver.
Nice loaders
Got one on a Oliver 1650. Looks like it was made for that tractor
I can imagine
If you know , do tell me what actually drives the PTO on these tractors. I understand that they have the clutch, and brake pack on the rear with the big handle. I need to know what actually drives the shaft going back to that clutch pack. I know these tractors didn't have a 2 stage clutch. So I'm trying to figure out how that shaft is driven all the time when the transmission clutch is disabled.
are you talking about the farmall letter series or the 400 because the 400 came with live PTO as an option
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The M, H was driven from the transmission, and would stop when the clutch pedal was pressed in. The 350 maybe the 300 ,but I know the 350 , and 450 had that clutch pack on the back. Somehow the shaft of going to it was driven any time the engine was running. I'm trying to figure out what drove that shaft. Like did they have a hydraulic motor that turned the PTO shaft all the time??? As I said I understand the clutch pack on the rear of the tractor, it's the shaft going to it that I don't understand how it gets it's power. Hope I explained, hope you have the answer.
There were a lot of tractors these 2000 and 2001 loaders would fit that weren't listed, because the dimensions and mounting holes for the front brackets are the same. Anything from an M up through a 1456 has the same bolt pattern and distance between the frame rails at the front. The only difference is wheelbase and shape of the axle housing, square or hex. Easy enough to modify the back frame.
Well a 400 was not listed oops lol
We had a 404 gas utility with a Loader it was one with a manual bucket release
Ol' trip bucket...beats a pitch fork lol
My dad has a 2000 loader on a farmall M with a nearo front. It has extra hydrologic parts added to it to operate to loader.
Amazing
@@FarmallFanatic yes. It even has truck tires on the front because the load was too heavy for the IH tires. There's also a winch on the back that was on a old army truck from WW2 that used to work on the farm. The winch was on a jalopy to hall wood and was put on the tractor so they could continue to use the winch. Unfortunately my grandfather never got the pto hooked to it so now it is just a counter wate for the loader.
What was added to be able to use on the M. I have a loader but trying to figure out how to hook up to run. Would i need a belt driven pump in addition from my belly pump??
I had both a 2000 and 2001 loader there are same loader really only difference I see in two is the 2000 is a double ram tip and the 2001 is a single ram tip or a trip bucket like mine was
Look out for those grain spitting green grasshoppers. Let's focus and call them locusts
I have a ih 444 with a 2001 loader I'm wanting to install but I don't know where the hoses hook to on my tractor I'm wanting to not have to hook them to my wet lines
Most guys just run them to the rear remotes and then when they need the rear remotes they set the bucket wherever they want it and unplug the lines
@Farmall Fanatic the problem is I use a hydraulic top link on my brushhog and I need to be able to use my wet lines with the loader on the tractor
I had a 2000 loader i bought new on a 426 international new in 1968 best loader i ever owned had seperate controls
Nice
The bucket is almost big enough for all my B.S🤪!!!!...could picture it on a 656!
perfect for a 656
My uncle baught what was my grandpas diesel 544 it has a 2000 loader on it with bale forks and it had a year round cab it was the first tractor i ever drove
544 is a good tractor
@@FarmallFanatic oh my yes and i was very lucky my grandpa had a gas and diesel version that i got to run/operate he also had a 544 utility but sold it to a local before i was born but i did get a chance to operate it
Plowboy
...if I remember correctly.....my friend had one on a 544 utility with hydrostatic drive...but can't remember if it was. 2000 or 2001.....
.... ..BOOM.....!!!
Great setup
also looked like the 2001 was for the ultility style tractors were as the 2000 was for the row crow /farmall tractors
Yeah
Will or could this fit a farmall M?
Fit well? No
Okay thanks.
Our neighbor had a 2000 on a 786. Had to modify the steps
whatever works
Actually had a 574 utility with a 1550 on it those were not a real well-built loader setup they were more for just a basic utility tractor operation where you didn't use them all the time not like we had for a dairy farm. We had a 450 with a farmhand loader and we could wear a bucket out about twice a year on that lol The 2000 on the 756 was the best
It could happen one day here
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I just hope it’s not too heavy for the tractor because you may be hard on the spindles and tires
Well my guess is that it's been on there probably for 20 years
About 10 years ago I had a 450 diesel with a 2001 loader
That would work
@@FarmallFanatic it was a good setup
im trying to get a farmall 404 with a 2000 on it
Should work
We have a 574 with a 2250. I will never sell either because they work too well together
Had a 2001 on a 560 and 2000 on a 450
Seems like most 560s with loaders I've been around, looked liked whoever owned it just hated them, did their best to trash them,as long the bitch started and ran it was good enough
Ahahahahahahaha yep
What about a 300 utility
I actually listed the tractors and loaders that fit them on my community tab
I want a loader for my Super M.
You need a 1660
Well 1066 is the same exact tractor as a 14 or 1566. Just they had bigger engines. The frame was the exact same. So if it fit a 1066 then it would fit a 1466. Just the bigger tractor could very well break the loader or bend something with the extra power
Yeah I'm pretty sure that's why they didn't recommend it plus they figured nobody would put a loader on a 1566 in those days
@@FarmallFanatic no probably not. But if a man gets desperate for a tool he needs then he'll make it work. But man if that's the case then prob even 1066 would break it🤷♂️
@@paralyzedlife8763 It's hard to find these old loaders without welds
@@FarmallFanatic yes it is. I have a off brand on a 1466 with none on it but with all the power it may get somr
The 1566 is a completely different tractor. They are heavier throughout and instead of having a 4 speed transmission with High/ Low range, the 1566 has a 3 speed with high/ low range. The 1566 has larger axles too. But as far as the frame goes, yes you're right. It would bolt right onto the 1466.
I got a 606 with a 2000 on it
Nice
I'm guessing it works well
@@FarmallFanatic it does need to replace hoses they have a couple leaks. im hoping that is what is causing my pump to whine
Thay will also fit ford Oliver and allis chamler lol
True
Some day, I’ll get a 1000 loader even though they look stupid. They’re good for picking things up and putting them down as well as a good conversation piece. 😖
I actually know where there is one it's on A140 that doesn't start
@@FarmallFanatic go get it!😄
Finally the good tractor & loader instead of that dumb H u love for some obscure reason
I said in the last comment that YOU loved the H...finally
Looks like a 2000 goes bout as high as a 800GB
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