The 7mag is my pick. I don’t know exactly why (I think it had something to do with drop of comb, wooden stock, balance of weight, etc.), but I sold the only 300 Win Mag I ever owned because it kicked like a mule and was just way overkill for whitetail hunting here in AL. The recoil on that rifle - a Browning A-bolt “Hunter” with a wooden stock and blued finish - was so brutal that I couldn’t keep the scope rings tight on it. I couldn’t figure out why I couldn’t get a decent group, then figured out my scope was wiggling! I’d torque it back down and it would happen again after a few shots. I have a 7mm Rem Mag in a Remington 700 (stainless/composite) and its recoil is very manageable. I don’t notice any difference between it and my old wooden stock Rem700 in .270. I’m 6’2, 230, but I had my shooting shoulder basically rebuilt about 23 years ago. I can still shoot anything (at least that I know of up to a 12 ga. 3 1/2” mag turkey load), but I have to make sure it’s positioned just right! Enjoy the videos. God bless.
7mm magnum is great with a 175 grain Nosler Partition for moose and timber elk hunts. Sectional density makes the 7mm easier to shoot. 160 grain 7mm bullet has the sectional density of the 180 grain 308 caliber bullet.
When I owned a 7 mag. I found the lack of heavy bullets for it was the main problem with it. At that time I could only get 175 grain bullets and for a magnum rifle I want heavier bullets.
I personally have always leaned towards the .30 cals, I am even planning on having a custom 300 WM built. However the more older or mature I get, I am seeing more clearly now that not one single deer, elk, moose or anything for that matter has ever known the difference when shot by either of those fine rounds. Keep them coming WhoTeeWho!
I have both and love both of them. Been hunting with them for years. General observation, 7mm mag is easier on the shoulder. Both are tack drivers. 300 WM has more loading possibilities due the abundance of different bullet types and weights in .308 cal. I will definitely take a close look at the new Core Lokt tipped rounds. Looks like a major improvement. Great video. Keep up the great work.
Bear country Either one 7mm mag - sniper rifle 300win mag - Anti material rifle Shtf scenario 300win mag = a nato rd Law enforcement rd Usually readily available in gun stores 7mm mag - low recoil , shooter fatigue doesn’t kick in as fast 300win mag - has more recoil , Recoil may affect the accuracy depending upon your scenario
Great video once again! I have been using the 7mag for over 40+ years. Deer Elk Moose .( One moose out to 510 yards ). I really don’t recommend anyone shooting past 400 even though the cartridge is capable most of us humans are not. I have been using the 160 Swift Aframe for the past couple years they are great.I am very impressed with the accuracy and terminal performance and little meat loss. I’m not a bear hunter but if I was I would probably go with the 300 WM. With a 180 or 200 RN or partition bullet. Even though the 7mag with the 175 partition and RN would do a great job out to 200 . Cheers
I have both and the 7mm rem mag is my favourite caliber period. If I wasn’t taking my 338 win mag for moose etc id never take anything other than my 7 mag for anything
Used both great cartridges, believe it or not I'm a fan of the OLD .300 H&H Magnum in a .30 Magnum, classic. The 7mm Magnum either Remington or the Weatherby version are excellent. If after game like the large bears (myself would go with a larger caliber) and all I had was either a 7mm or .300 Magnum, I would go with the .300 and 200 to 220 premium bullets. You absolutely right at 100 yards I would rather use my 7x57. The magnums are better at distances, and you could do well with either the 7MM Magnum or the .300 Winchester Magnum. Myself and I'm a pretty good game shot, yet would likely not take a shot at over 300 yards, favoring closing on the animal which is the most important part of hunting for me. Great analogy video between the two cartridges.
@@gfg8262 Yes also known as 7.92 and loaded with a 192 grain bullet at about 2440 fps,-good penetrator. I personally like the 30-06 at 150 grain and 2,800 fps better -flatter shooting -but I'm American .However, that Mauser action as you likely know was widely copied for a reason.
All my dad ever shot in his 06 was the core lock. He shot deer and bear with it and it always worked perfect, if he was still alive I know he would still be shooting it. I can't wait to see how the tipped core lock works in my rifles. wish the had it in 150 or 165 in the 300mag. great video.. thanks for the information.
I’ve owned both. A win model 70 7mm mag and browning a bolt medallion 300 win mag. 7 mag kicked like a mule and destroyed lot of scopes and gave me scope eye too much. 300 win was awesome killed lots of deer but ended up settling on good ole 30-06 and doing the same with less recoil.
Good video. My hunting is similar to area like you put your food plots. 25-125 yards. Unless I am in open field 200 plus will never happen. Here in north Florida where I am it’s just flat woods and swamps. 223 -7.62x 39 -308 Winchester- 50 caliber muzzle loader works great. Yes if was hunting further west I might need a 7mm or 300 mag. Thanks for the information video.
There was a time, back in the early 1990s, when folks in our part of South Carolina felt that the 7mm was over kill for deer at what were considered "normal" ranges of 100 to 200 yards. then came a preponderance of clear cuts brought on by companies that provided lumber to the housing market. Suddenly ranges jumped up to 300 to 400 yards and rifles chambered in 7mm replaced older rifles chambered in .30-30, 35 Remington, .243, .270, .308, and .30-06. And then along came the .300 Win Mag to basically make the older calibers obsolete in the minds of many. Having said all that, when the .300 Winchester SHORT Magnum started showing up around here mayhem ensued and many basically friendly arguments about which caliber was superior broke out. Oddly enough, those afore mentioned "obsolete" calibers just kept on taking deer and hogs like they always had. Since I hunt in areas that could best be described a medium to heavy cover, I stick with lever guns with the largest caliber being .444 Marlin though I do own a Savage 99E in .250-3000 (she is an old one, but I love her) and another in .308 Winchester for what, for me at least, are stands providing "long range" shot probability. One of my best friends owns a small collection of bolt action hunting rifles ranging from .243 up to .300 WSM and has harvested many a deer and hog with each of them.....But he is in the market for a Marlin .35 Remington for those under 200-yard shots where thumping and brush busting are called for....By the way mine is not for sale but I will probably leave it to him in my will.
The South Carolina Department of Wildlife (or whatever the Game Commission is called there) did a study about 20 years ago, the purpose of which was to determine if any of the common deer hunting calibers showed differences in killing power. They found no noticeable differences between .243, .257, .277, .284, and .308 caliber rounds.
@@malachiwhite356 To be honest, I had no idea that the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources had ever spent the time, money, and effort on such a study. Thanks for the info!
I have both and by far the 7mm Rem mag is more comfortable to shoot. But, I enjoy shooting my 300 Win mag as well. Of the deer I have shot with my 7mm they have been under 100 yards and fell right where I shot them, no tracking necessary. I did kill a nice 5x5 elk with a 7mm mag and at 200 yards it preformed lights out with 160 grain Sierra game kings, again no tracking. In the end it's what you are going to hunt and the range you are going to be shooting, either of these up to elk will excel. Pick your favorite that you shoot best and match the bullet to the game. Great video!
Great advice! Choosing the right bullet is absolutely essential as it is what does the job. I quit using the Berger bullets for hunting. Inconsistent performance on game. But an excellent target bullet . Switched to the Swift Aframe For hunting very good bullet. I am sure that the Nosler partition will work well also.
Love your video, but I chose the 300 Weatherby for the difference, but still prefer my 7mm08 for my go to deer rifle where I hunt , been using it since buying it in 1995 !!!!!!!!!
In the past, I haven't like the Core-Lokt bullets. They haven't grouped the best for me. In fact, it seemed to me that I had the same problem with any soft tip bullet. Here was my theory, if I dropped the bullet or it hit something on an angle, the soft tip deformed. When I went to shoot, with the tip going off to Jones, i the bullet didn't fly straight, and I could never get the bullets to group well. I have a Christensen Mesa in Rem 7mm and it loves the Core-Lokt Tipped bullets. I have found other bullets that shot well, but not as good as these tipped bullets. I have never been able to shoot 1/2" MOA, but this gun and the Core-Lokt tipped bullets do it consistently.
Great discussion. I think what is beginning to become the most important consideration in this discussion of high BC bullets is the resulting higher maintained velocity. I prefer to use copper bullets (TTSX. CX, LRX, rtc), which need all the velocity they can get to expand. High BC bullets allow for less initial pain inflicted in terms of recoil, in lighter chamberings like 6mm CM, but still allow for great maintained velocity out to 4-500 yards. I’m a 300 yard guy personally, but like having the option.
It’s interesting how all my rifles seem to love the tried and true core-lokt. Both my tikka 30-06 and my bergara 6.5cm shoot it just as accurate as the stuff that costs 2-3x as much. Works great in lever guns 30-30 and 45-70 too
They are both good cartridges! But for myself if I'm stepping about 3006 in 30 cal I'm stepping up to the 300 WEATHERBY or one the other SUPER magnums such as 30-378 weatherby because not enough difference between modern 3006 loads and 300 Winchester to really make much difference!
In factory no, but .300 win mag in factory ammo is underloaded. 300 win mag at its max is 300fps faster than 30-06 with 180gr bullets from 3100ish vs 2800 in 06. But I agree, if I only bought factory ammo I’d go for a 300wby or 300 rum from a .308 or 30.06.
Go with the 338Win Mag best all around cartridge for big game and all the bears. It covers all the bases. A real sportsman should not shoot game over 450 yds.
This is a great video. I really like the caveat you threw in there - unless you’re going after moose or grizzlies, it really doesn’t matter inside 400 yards. I’m a whitetail hunter who has rarely shot past 100 yards, but still find myself drawn to the 7mm rem mag, 300 win mag, and now the 300 PRC. Good stuff. Thanks for putting it together.
I never saw my grandpa, the cattle rancher/big game hunter, with a .300 win mag around. I have however seen him with 7mm rem mags, though. Many of them! The .25-06 is a big favorite as well. Perfect for California Blacktails.
Man all i want is a sniper rifle but in all seriousness im a longer distance guy for the range and 7mm seems to be the best option and i thank you for letting me know of it
I love my 7mm. When deer season comez around i have my feeder out to 400. Which is nothing for 7mm or 300. Ive dropped deer under my feeder at that same spot with my 308. Just a different hold. My 7mm spits to it like a laser i love it.
300WSM??? Anybody? Anybody? I only pose the ??? because I have a Browning A bolt stainless stalker in 300WSM that I love. The longest shot I've taken a deer at was a measured 416 yds across a cut corn field. No tracking necessary. A elk hunt out west is on my bucket list and this rifle will go with me.
I run the 28 Nosler. Since I've gotten into reloading and learning more about ballistics, I pretty much stick to 6.5mm-7mm loadings. Those seem to be the most efficient bullets. I opted for the 28 Nosler to avoid the belted case. Sectional Density and wind deflection are the major considerations in hunting.
@russellkeeling4387 Because I reload. When sizing your brass, the shoulder gets resized properly. There is no way to reform the belt, which severely limits the number of times the case can be reloaded. Being able to re-use the brass case is the major savings in reloading.
@@ChristopherKnN I also reload and have never had the belt on any of my magnum rifles change when shooting. The belt being the point at which the headspacing takes place is an advantage to me.
I'm glad you did this because I found a smoking deal on both of these firearms with ammo and Vortex scopes reload dies, bullets and primers/powder online locally and not sure which way to go! Maybe I'll just buy both.
H Great clip! I'm a huge 7mm rem mag fan. My Christiansen Arms long range might be heavy to carry but the accuracy is incredible. Dime sized groups are no problem. I've never had anything take more than a couple steps and fall over. Shot placement and knowing your limits is the key. I have never taken a shot past 400yds.
I would the 300 win just cuz here in Canada there’s like no ammo available for 7mm. But very interesting data please do a video with the 300win and 308
I have both, but prefer shooting.300WM over 7mm mag. The senderas at our ranch are only around 200 yards long before they make a turn due to terrain. I’ve used everything from pistol caliber, to .308, but nothing bigger.
I always enjoy these nerdy conversations but I laughed at the end when you said to "comment my pick". Hell, I've shot the same rifle for over 40 years and so far, it's done everything I've ever asked it to do. I bought a Remington Model 700 in 30.06 back in the 70's and it far exceeded anything that I expected. I don't load my own ammo because factory loads will do anything that I need to do. Although, I am going to buy a few boxes of those Core Lokt Tipped cartridges, if they're in stock. There seems to be a shortage of the most popular rounds on most people's shelves. My sister called me from New Mexico just yesterday, asking if I could pick up some ammo for them since the stores stay sold out all the time. So I'll look for her too while I'm there. But I'm not going to look at other rifles while I'm in the store.
Very good comments on practical hunting distance. The bc on your caliber choices favor the 7mag by 50bc. At long distance that tips the scale in the 7mags favor.
That's the problem with this video. He uses bullets that are light for both rifles. The 300 win. mag. will shoot heavier bullets than the 7mm mag. at higher velocity. The heavier bullet of the 300 gives it a higher BC and more mass for higher energy at distance. The 300 will shoot a 220 grain bullet as fast as a 7mm will shoot a 160 grain bullet. I don't see any reason to have a magnum caliber rifle if you're going to shoot light bullets that can be launched from almost any caliber cartridge. To me magnum means long range energy.
That is really an excellent video with lots of precise data, mmm I would love to see the same kind of video comparing 30-06 vs 308, or 7.62x39 vs 300 black, thanks a lot!
Really awesome video. My dads trying to decide between 7 mag which he has used for the past 30 years and what I use now but we shoot 140 grain Nosler partition and have dropped multiple deer 300 yards plus. But federal has stopped making 140 grain partitions but the 300 win mag can shoot a 180 grain with almost the exact same ballistic data as the 140. Think he’s gonna go with with the 300 strictly just because of ease of finding multiple factory loaded bullets. Glad my independent research was matching up with what you also found.
Lol at the caliber snobs. Growing up in Colorado when a kid, my dad and uncles took more elk than you can imagine with a 308. Not to mention mule deer. As a grown up, a 308 has all I've ever hunted with and I have never not been able to bag everything that I've shot. It's funny in Texas, where I live now, how many of these super hunters think they need an 06 or bigger to climb a tree stand to shoot a deer they've been feed all year.
My brother shot a spike elk this morning at 100 yards 180 grain winchester boolets. Shot it right in the melon. We dressed it out and always keep the heart.... the bottom of the heart was split🤔 about a four inch Crack right along the bottom and could have only been the pressure rise through the blood vessels. No guff
Unless I was hunting in Grizzly bear country I choose the 7mm rem mag. The 300 win mag with a 210 to 225 grain bullet is a definite advantage in energy over the 7mm. Pushing close to 4000 ft lbs at the muzzle, according to some of the numbers I've seen. 7mm rem mag recoil is only a touch more than a 30 06 with comparable wt bullets. I have a Weatherby Vanguard2 in 7mm rem mag and love it.
Love your vids brother, keep em comin! Personally I went with 300wm, being a reloader with 300blk, a few 308's and a 300prc, it just made sense. Absolutely no regrets, it's a powerhouse and slams steel 10 for 10 at 1000 yards. It also does amazing things to a hog head from 100 yards.
As an avid reloader, not too much a fan of the big magnums. I rarely take a shot at more than three hundred yards. Besides prairie dogs, I shoot cans and paper. That said, I own the 7mm win mag in case I need to hit something large, or past 400 yards. I can shoot my 7mm08 almost twice as much with the same amount of powder. Twice as much fun at the same cost.
I own both. I have always known what this post proves. I am in the process of setting up a Winchester M70 Laredo with the Boss, for long range. My M70 Super Grade .300WM is for hunting. The Laredo is 7mm Mag.
I've had both the 7mm rem mag and the .300 win mag. I've shot both a lot and the difference I noticed between my two rifles was my 7mm kicked less than my .300. Both were very accurate as long as did my part. I only hunted with my .300 win mag though I sold the 7mm shortly after I got it, I figured I didn't need two magnum rifles. I've got a .338 win mag now and I bought it because I wanted something that could reach out to 3 or 400 yards and still have a fair bit of punch to it. Where I live in Northeastern BC Canada we have an open season for Bison and I wanted something with a little more horsepower than my old .358 Winchester.
So, you sold a 7mm because you had a 300 and did not need 2, but then bought a 338? Are you sure you do not need 2 magnum rifles? Also where you claim to live in Canada, better not get caught with those guns. Justin will not be happy
Good video, awesome content. Thanks for all of your efforts to get these gun/ammo videos out. Lots of experience and knowledge to listen to. Nice to have the benefit of learning from a man that knows. 👍🇺🇸
Great video! I’ve got a moose tag here in east coast Canada, specifically central Labrador. I’ve never shot a big game animal but excited to get the first one down. I’m shooting a 30-06 Remington core lokt 180gr
The 30-06 will do just fine. For a first time hunter keeping your shots 150 yards and in you will do just fine. The 30-06 is very capable out to 300 . But as with any other cartridge shot placement is key! Good luck on your hunt. Enjoy every minute of it.
Excellent video. Awesome charts and data. If you were doing a paper for school, you would be getting an A. Do you have any recommendations for a 9mm rifle?
Nice job on your presentation! To you point it is all in the math and personal choice & use. If lower BC you have to have enough velocity to off set the higher BC bullet. Why 6.5 are so popular at 1000 yards. 300 Win Mag is more available. 7mm has less recoil. I own both as well as 7mm Wby Mag and 300 Wby Mag. I had an Outfitter in NM turn me own to Federal Terminal Ascent Bullets. 7mm 155 has a BC of .586. 30 cal 200 has a BC = .608 & 175 BC = .520. These bullets are tough to enough to kill elk etc. Back in the day the 7mm Remington Magnum eased it reputation on the range with a 168 GR Grain Match King Hollow Point. My favorite if you can take the recoil is the 300 Wby Mag. There is a very good reason why it is their “1 selling cartridge.
The Marine Corps Ceytech M200 & M300 use the Winchester Magnum 300 round it recently replaced the Remington M40A3 & M40A5. 308 Remington based off the Remington Model 700ADL.
Just got a 7mm. Have a 7RUM but with the lack of amo for it got the 7mm. Amo is easy to find and it’s a great all around caliber especially for longer range on big game like elk. The 300 is overkill especially since there is this thing called the 3006:)
I got an experiment idea. I've been looking around and can't find much information. The idea is hand loading 300wm and 30-06 same powder&bullet type and weight to 30-06 specs. Would they perform the same with same barrel length? Then 300wm and 308 hand loaded same powder, bullets to 308 specs. Then 300wm and 30-30 hand loaded to same 30-30 specs. Then maybe 300wm and 30 carbine. To 30 carbine specs. Would there be must different in velocity and energy with the experments?? I'm curious. Too much empty space in the case??
My pick is 7mm RUM, however I just got a 300 win mag that I'll be hunting with this year. Would like to see a comparison between those two. Love the 7 ultra, but have had it for 20 yrs and feel it getting a lil burned out...and it's heavy!
For me I prefer the 300 but. 7mm rem mag using 168 accubond. Is hard to beat. My 20 inch 300 winmag Tikka shoots 190 accubond long range. Still gives me 700 yard expanding velocity
@@odinsson204 nice. Generally we get pass through with 168 barnes in 7mm rem mag threw 26 inch barrel. With super hot load. Told my friend to build his son a 7mm08 Ackley with 20 inch barrel. He killed a elk with his dad's old 175 grain partition load.
Would like to have a 7mm mag. Only reason I went with 300 win is because when my late grandfather passed he left me 2 browning 300win mag rifles plus the reloading dies ect
Ballistically speaking the 7mm mag is flatter shooting. Plus I've shot elk at over 600 yards and seen bullets go straight through Bone and kick dirt up behind it. Both are awesome rounds I just prefer the 7💪💯
That's not true. The 300 mag. is higher velocity and shoots just as flat if not flatter. For many years the 300 Weatherby mag. was known as the flattest shooting rifle made. The 300 mag. will shoot a 200 grain bullet as fast as a 7mm will shoot a 160 grain bullet thus giving the 300 a better BC and much more mass.
In America, 30 cal is minimum, from a sabot at 5000fps to a 230 grain thumper, 10 pound rifle with a brake, bipod, and a solid optic you can do anything
At 1000 yds. the energy is about equal to a .45 ACP at the muzzle for the Core Locts and about equal to a .357 Mag at the muzzle for the Core Loct Tips to put it in perspective. WTW, I hope you do this same comparison again when Remington finally releases their new rounds with the Speer bullets for the 300 wm and 7mm Rem mag. Bigger bullets and higher BC's.
Man oh man , the 300 win mag guys are lucky you didn't compare the 7mm 175 grain loads...the difference would have even been more in favor of the 7mm. However at reasonable ranges a elk or moose won't know the difference. With a good bullet with a decent BC the 7mm mag is hard to beat....great video hoss..
Nice comparison of the two using Rem CL bullets. Always liked Remington Ammo-especially the Express shotshells . May have to try the .22 LR Golden HP again now that they are under new ownership. They were great on small game especially Squirrels-expanded well. Switched to CCI Mini Mag when Rem had issues. May take a peek and see how they group and 30-30 when they show up again.
I'm not a hunter, and really have never had a chance to, but if I were to go out hunting (hog, deer, moose...etc) I would have to take out the new kid on the block, the 8.6 Blackout. Mostly because if I were to hunt it would likely be, with permission, on someone else's land, and having a silenced option would be the considerate thing to do. Great video as usual 😁👍🏽
Did you switch the 7mm and 300WM data for the regular core Lokts? I don't see how the 7mm bullet with a higher BC drops more at shorter distances then drops less than the 300WM at longer ranges.😊 The ballistics should be more liked tipped version.
Because it has a slower muzzle velocity to start out which overcomes the B.C until it doesnt down the road. 3290 with the 150 300 win mag 3110 with the 150 7mm mag.
looks like going by weight it doesnt make a difference until about 800 yards. With the tipped you can't compare the two because of the weight difference.
They're both phenomenal cartridges. I'm a 300 guy myself, but have friends who shoot 7mm. I would like to see the 7mm core lokt tipped in 175 in the chart also since it's closer in weight to the 300 rounds just for comparison. Great video though.
As you mentioned, they both have their place. I have a 300 win-mag but do not yet have a 7mm mag. I have a 270, a 30-30, a 308, a 30-06, and the 300wm. So I have a gap between the 270 and 30 calibers. I am trying to decide whether to go ahead and get a 7mm mag or hold out for a better selection of the 7mm PRC? I mostly range shoot but do a guided hunt each year. I have trophy whitetail, this year is elk, next year is either Bison or Black Bear.
I own both calibres, but have always been a fan of the 7mmRemMag more. It would be cool to see a comparison with closer weight bullets, like the 175gr and 162gr to 168gr bullets with the 7mmRemMag.
One thing you might want to consider incorporating into your videos is the data from where the bullet falls below say 2003 per second. Each individual bullet has a working range of velocity where it will expand. Drop data for beyond that range it's just hitting the target and probably won't do much expanding. Glad to see the chronograph in your videos thank you
Time to geek out ! Looks like the 6.5 PRC beats both for target work without beating you up as much. For hunting though, especially out west , going with the bigger hole theory , 300 win for the score , but that opens up the 30PRC debate. Good stuff.
The German K98 uses the Remington 7mm-08 along with the K31 Swiss , Yugoslavian M24/47 , M48, Czechoslovakian VZ24, Chinese Hayang Type 88, Spanish M43, Swedish M96 Carbine. The round is a Bottle Necked 308 243 Winchester Magnum uses a hotter powder. 270 Remington is a bottle necked round compared to the 30.06 Springfield round. The best round would be 300 Winchester Magnum.
The 7mag is my pick. I don’t know exactly why (I think it had something to do with drop of comb, wooden stock, balance of weight, etc.), but I sold the only 300 Win Mag I ever owned because it kicked like a mule and was just way overkill for whitetail hunting here in AL. The recoil on that rifle - a Browning A-bolt “Hunter” with a wooden stock and blued finish - was so brutal that I couldn’t keep the scope rings tight on it. I couldn’t figure out why I couldn’t get a decent group, then figured out my scope was wiggling! I’d torque it back down and it would happen again after a few shots. I have a 7mm Rem Mag in a Remington 700 (stainless/composite) and its recoil is very manageable. I don’t notice any difference between it and my old wooden stock Rem700 in .270. I’m 6’2, 230, but I had my shooting shoulder basically rebuilt about 23 years ago. I can still shoot anything (at least that I know of up to a 12 ga. 3 1/2” mag turkey load), but I have to make sure it’s positioned just right! Enjoy the videos. God bless.
I am 73 yrs old and sold my beautiful 7mm Remington Mag 20 yrs ago!! I gave my Remington 30.06 to my son. All i got now is a.270 and a 6.5 Creedmoor!
7mm magnum is great with a 175 grain Nosler Partition for moose and timber elk hunts. Sectional density makes the 7mm easier to shoot. 160 grain 7mm bullet has the sectional density of the 180 grain 308 caliber bullet.
7x66 sevh is great . Its possible to lload a great variety of weight bullet
Sectional density has nothing to do with shoot ability it offers more potential for penetration but that is more determined by bullet construction
@@MNvikfan i consider 2 pure brass bullets ( like monolithic solid A-Square)
here we have 7x66 SEVH..... its like 7mm Ultramag
When I owned a 7 mag. I found the lack of heavy bullets for it was the main problem with it. At that time I could only get 175 grain bullets and for a magnum rifle I want heavier bullets.
I personally have always leaned towards the .30 cals, I am even planning on having a custom 300 WM built. However the more older or mature I get, I am seeing more clearly now that not one single deer, elk, moose or anything for that matter has ever known the difference when shot by either of those fine rounds. Keep them coming WhoTeeWho!
I have both and love both of them. Been hunting with them for years. General observation, 7mm mag is easier on the shoulder. Both are tack drivers. 300 WM has more loading possibilities due the abundance of different bullet types and weights in .308 cal. I will definitely take a close look at the new Core Lokt tipped rounds. Looks like a major improvement. Great video. Keep up the great work.
Bear country
Either one
7mm mag - sniper rifle
300win mag - Anti material rifle
Shtf scenario
300win mag = a nato rd
Law enforcement rd
Usually readily available in gun stores
7mm mag - low recoil , shooter fatigue doesn’t kick in as fast
300win mag - has more recoil , Recoil may affect the accuracy depending upon your scenario
It's amazing at the difference between the Core-Lokt and the Core-Lokt Tipped ammo in 7mm.
Kinda hard to compair when the 300 is using 180 grains cl tipped vs the 150 grains cl tipped
30 cal is best overall
i went with the 7mm rem mag because the ammo here is cheaper. $50 a box for 7mm and $100 for 300 win mag
Great video once again!
I have been using the 7mag for over 40+ years.
Deer Elk Moose .( One moose out to 510 yards ). I really don’t recommend anyone shooting past 400 even though the cartridge is capable most of us humans are not. I have been using the 160 Swift Aframe for the past couple years they are great.I am very impressed with the accuracy and terminal performance and little meat loss.
I’m not a bear hunter but if I was I would probably go with the 300 WM. With a 180 or 200 RN or partition bullet. Even though the 7mag with the 175 partition and RN would do a great job out to 200 .
Cheers
Really appreciate all the effort you put into this video! It was very interesting and i def learned some things. Great job WTW!!!!
🙏🙏🙏 appreciate you watching bigtime JOEY
thank you WHO-TEE
Very interesting. I had my heart set on a .300 win mag but you made a persuasive case that the 7mm rem mag is the better choice in many circumstances.
Get both don't settle for less 👍🏾
I have both and the 7mm rem mag is my favourite caliber period. If I wasn’t taking my 338 win mag for moose etc id never take anything other than my 7 mag for anything
Used both great cartridges, believe it or not I'm a fan of the OLD .300 H&H Magnum in a .30 Magnum, classic. The 7mm Magnum either Remington or the Weatherby version are excellent. If after game like the large bears (myself would go with a larger caliber) and all I had was either a 7mm or .300 Magnum, I would go with the .300 and 200 to 220 premium bullets. You absolutely right at 100 yards I would rather use my 7x57. The magnums are better at distances, and you could do well with either the 7MM Magnum or the .300 Winchester Magnum. Myself and I'm a pretty good game shot, yet would likely not take a shot at over 300 yards, favoring closing on the animal which is the most important part of hunting for me. Great analogy video between the two cartridges.
Love the 7mm-08 for 300 yards and in. Deadly accurate and plenty of energy for deer. My Ruger American Go wild is plenty for this task.
I think the German K98 uses that round it's slight better than 308 .
@@Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654 wasn't the k98 in 8mm mauser?
@@gfg8262 Yes also known as 7.92 and loaded with a 192 grain bullet at about 2440 fps,-good penetrator. I personally like the 30-06 at 150 grain and 2,800 fps better -flatter shooting -but I'm American .However, that Mauser action as you likely know was widely copied for a reason.
All my dad ever shot in his 06 was the core lock. He shot deer and bear with it and it always worked perfect, if he was still alive I know he would still be shooting it. I can't wait to see how the tipped core lock works in my rifles. wish the had it in 150 or 165 in the 300mag. great video.. thanks for the information.
That's all I ever use too, never had any problems with them. Use them in 270, 303 and ought six.
This high-tech nerdy stuff is great! Plus, I remember you taking the 7mm out to 1000 yards! Those are some of my favorite videos!🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲
The issue with long range shots regardless how much of a marksman you are, it gives plenty of time for the game to move.
I’ve owned both. A win model 70 7mm mag and browning a bolt medallion 300 win mag. 7 mag kicked like a mule and destroyed lot of scopes and gave me scope eye too much. 300 win was awesome killed lots of deer but ended up settling on good ole 30-06 and doing the same with less recoil.
I bet that a bolt came with a boss system on it too which is probably why it didn’t kick your ass as much
Good video. My hunting is similar to area like you put your food plots. 25-125 yards. Unless I am in open field 200 plus will never happen. Here in north Florida where I am it’s just flat woods and swamps. 223 -7.62x 39 -308 Winchester- 50 caliber muzzle loader works great. Yes if was hunting further west I might need a 7mm or 300 mag. Thanks for the information video.
7mm rem mag, it’s got the sauce with less recoil then the 300 win mag
Lease sauce, I can't imagine what it's like shooting a 300! Can't say how many time I came close to scoping myself😅
There was a time, back in the early 1990s, when folks in our part of South Carolina felt that the 7mm was over kill for deer at what were considered "normal" ranges of 100 to 200 yards. then came a preponderance of clear cuts brought on by companies that provided lumber to the housing market. Suddenly ranges jumped up to 300 to 400 yards and rifles chambered in 7mm replaced older rifles chambered in .30-30, 35 Remington, .243, .270, .308, and .30-06. And then along came the .300 Win Mag to basically make the older calibers obsolete in the minds of many. Having said all that, when the .300 Winchester SHORT Magnum started showing up around here mayhem ensued and many basically friendly arguments about which caliber was superior broke out. Oddly enough, those afore mentioned "obsolete" calibers just kept on taking deer and hogs like they always had. Since I hunt in areas that could best be described a medium to heavy cover, I stick with lever guns with the largest caliber being .444 Marlin though I do own a Savage 99E in .250-3000 (she is an old one, but I love her) and another in .308 Winchester for what, for me at least, are stands providing "long range" shot probability. One of my best friends owns a small collection of bolt action hunting rifles ranging from .243 up to .300 WSM and has harvested many a deer and hog with each of them.....But he is in the market for a Marlin .35 Remington for those under 200-yard shots where thumping and brush busting are called for....By the way mine is not for sale but I will probably leave it to him in my will.
The South Carolina Department of Wildlife (or whatever the Game Commission is called there) did a study about 20 years ago, the purpose of which was to determine if any of the common deer hunting calibers showed differences in killing power. They found no noticeable differences between .243, .257, .277, .284, and .308 caliber rounds.
@@malachiwhite356 To be honest, I had no idea that the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources had ever spent the time, money, and effort on such a study. Thanks for the info!
@@furmanmackey5479 You may be able to find the results on their website, or otherwise online.
@@malachiwhite356 Thanks for the tip!
This may not have been quite as fun as many of your other videos, but that was a really good presentation for the information I was looking for.
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I have both and by far the 7mm Rem mag is more comfortable to shoot. But, I enjoy shooting my 300 Win mag as well. Of the deer I have shot with my 7mm they have been under 100 yards and fell right where I shot them, no tracking necessary. I did kill a nice 5x5 elk with a 7mm mag and at 200 yards it preformed lights out with 160 grain Sierra game kings, again no tracking. In the end it's what you are going to hunt and the range you are going to be shooting, either of these up to elk will excel. Pick your favorite that you shoot best and match the bullet to the game. Great video!
Great advice!
Choosing the right bullet is absolutely essential as it is what does the job.
I quit using the Berger bullets for hunting. Inconsistent performance on game. But an excellent target bullet .
Switched to the Swift Aframe
For hunting very good bullet.
I am sure that the Nosler partition will work well also.
Love your video, but I chose the 300 Weatherby for the difference, but still prefer my 7mm08 for my go to deer rifle where I hunt , been using it since buying it in 1995 !!!!!!!!!
In the past, I haven't like the Core-Lokt bullets. They haven't grouped the best for me. In fact, it seemed to me that I had the same problem with any soft tip bullet. Here was my theory, if I dropped the bullet or it hit something on an angle, the soft tip deformed. When I went to shoot, with the tip going off to Jones, i the bullet didn't fly straight, and I could never get the bullets to group well.
I have a Christensen Mesa in Rem 7mm and it loves the Core-Lokt Tipped bullets. I have found other bullets that shot well, but not as good as these tipped bullets. I have never been able to shoot 1/2" MOA, but this gun and the Core-Lokt tipped bullets do it consistently.
Great discussion. I think what is beginning to become the most important consideration in this discussion of high BC bullets is the resulting higher maintained velocity. I prefer to use copper bullets (TTSX. CX, LRX, rtc), which need all the velocity they can get to expand. High BC bullets allow for less initial pain inflicted in terms of recoil, in lighter chamberings like 6mm CM, but still allow for great maintained velocity out to 4-500 yards. I’m a 300 yard guy personally, but like having the option.
It’s interesting how all my rifles seem to love the tried and true core-lokt. Both my tikka 30-06 and my bergara 6.5cm shoot it just as accurate as the stuff that costs 2-3x as much. Works great in lever guns 30-30 and 45-70 too
They are both good cartridges! But for myself if I'm stepping about 3006 in 30 cal I'm stepping up to the 300 WEATHERBY or one the other SUPER magnums such as 30-378 weatherby because not enough difference between modern 3006 loads and 300 Winchester to really make much difference!
In factory no, but .300 win mag in factory ammo is underloaded. 300 win mag at its max is 300fps faster than 30-06 with 180gr bullets from 3100ish vs 2800 in 06. But I agree, if I only bought factory ammo I’d go for a 300wby or 300 rum from a .308 or 30.06.
Go with the 338Win Mag best all around cartridge for big game and all the bears. It covers all the bases. A real sportsman should not shoot game over 450 yds.
7 for me i think. 300 prob has more energy but 7 probably has better ballistics so down range might even have more energy from less drag
Nice comparison videos. I have both, use 7mm most of the time. Would love to see a similar one for 25-06 and 260 rem.
Good idea
This is a great video. I really like the caveat you threw in there - unless you’re going after moose or grizzlies, it really doesn’t matter inside 400 yards. I’m a whitetail hunter who has rarely shot past 100 yards, but still find myself drawn to the 7mm rem mag, 300 win mag, and now the 300 PRC. Good stuff. Thanks for putting it together.
Thanks for watching Justin
7 mag will easily kill moose and grizzly too.
I love it when you get into the tech of different calibers. Cheers.
I never saw my grandpa, the cattle rancher/big game hunter, with a .300 win mag around. I have however seen him with 7mm rem mags, though. Many of them! The .25-06 is a big favorite as well. Perfect for California Blacktails.
Man all i want is a sniper rifle but in all seriousness im a longer distance guy for the range and 7mm seems to be the best option and i thank you for letting me know of it
I love my 7mm. When deer season comez around i have my feeder out to 400. Which is nothing for 7mm or 300. Ive dropped deer under my feeder at that same spot with my 308. Just a different hold. My 7mm spits to it like a laser i love it.
300WSM??? Anybody? Anybody? I only pose the ??? because I have a Browning A bolt stainless stalker in 300WSM that I love. The longest shot I've taken a deer at was a measured 416 yds across a cut corn field. No tracking necessary. A elk hunt out west is on my bucket list and this rifle will go with me.
I run the 28 Nosler. Since I've gotten into reloading and learning more about ballistics, I pretty much stick to 6.5mm-7mm loadings. Those seem to be the most efficient bullets. I opted for the 28 Nosler to avoid the belted case. Sectional Density and wind deflection are the major considerations in hunting.
Why does the belted case bother you? I like the idea of the headspace being on the belt rather than the shoulder of the rifle. Is that wrong of me.
@russellkeeling4387 Because I reload. When sizing your brass, the shoulder gets resized properly. There is no way to reform the belt, which severely limits the number of times the case can be reloaded. Being able to re-use the brass case is the major savings in reloading.
@@ChristopherKnN I also reload and have never had the belt on any of my magnum rifles change when shooting. The belt being the point at which the headspacing takes place is an advantage to me.
@russellkeeling4387 And this is why it is good to have choices.
Another really good show ! I went with .308 for eastern US.
I'm glad you did this because I found a smoking deal on both of these firearms with ammo and Vortex scopes reload dies, bullets and primers/powder online locally and not sure which way to go! Maybe I'll just buy both.
I've hunted with 06 180 grain most of my hunting life but the 7mm mag 175 grain has always been damn temping
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Great clip! I'm a huge 7mm rem mag fan. My Christiansen Arms long range might be heavy to carry but the accuracy is incredible. Dime sized groups are no problem. I've never had anything take more than a couple steps and fall over. Shot placement and knowing your limits is the key. I have never taken a shot past 400yds.
I would the 300 win just cuz here in Canada there’s like no ammo available for 7mm. But very interesting data please do a video with the 300win and 308
I have both, but prefer shooting.300WM over 7mm mag. The senderas at our ranch are only around 200 yards long before they make a turn due to terrain. I’ve used everything from pistol caliber, to .308, but nothing bigger.
I always enjoy these nerdy conversations but I laughed at the end when you said to "comment my pick". Hell, I've shot the same rifle for over 40 years and so far, it's done everything I've ever asked it to do. I bought a Remington Model 700 in 30.06 back in the 70's and it far exceeded anything that I expected. I don't load my own ammo because factory loads will do anything that I need to do. Although, I am going to buy a few boxes of those Core Lokt Tipped cartridges, if they're in stock. There seems to be a shortage of the most popular rounds on most people's shelves. My sister called me from New Mexico just yesterday, asking if I could pick up some ammo for them since the stores stay sold out all the time. So I'll look for her too while I'm there. But I'm not going to look at other rifles while I'm in the store.
Very good comments on practical hunting distance. The bc on your caliber choices favor the 7mag by 50bc. At long distance that tips the scale in the 7mags favor.
That's the problem with this video. He uses bullets that are light for both rifles. The 300 win. mag. will shoot heavier bullets than the 7mm mag. at higher velocity. The heavier bullet of the 300 gives it a higher BC and more mass for higher energy at distance. The 300 will shoot a 220 grain bullet as fast as a 7mm will shoot a 160 grain bullet. I don't see any reason to have a magnum caliber rifle if you're going to shoot light bullets that can be launched from almost any caliber cartridge. To me magnum means long range energy.
That is really an excellent video with lots of precise data, mmm I would love to see the same kind of video comparing 30-06 vs 308, or 7.62x39 vs 300 black, thanks a lot!
Thank you you really put in the work to give us great content
I love the core loke in 30.6 the 180 gr the rock dude thanks for the info
Really awesome video. My dads trying to decide between 7 mag which he has used for the past 30 years and what I use now but we shoot 140 grain Nosler partition and have dropped multiple deer 300 yards plus. But federal has stopped making 140 grain partitions but the 300 win mag can shoot a 180 grain with almost the exact same ballistic data as the 140. Think he’s gonna go with with the 300 strictly just because of ease of finding multiple factory loaded bullets. Glad my independent research was matching up with what you also found.
Lol at the caliber snobs.
Growing up in Colorado when a kid, my dad and uncles took more elk than you can imagine with a 308. Not to mention mule deer.
As a grown up, a 308 has all I've ever hunted with and I have never not been able to bag everything that I've shot.
It's funny in Texas, where I live now, how many of these super hunters think they need an 06 or bigger to climb a tree stand to shoot a deer they've been feed all year.
Where I live I see 7mm mag ammo on the shelves all the time, I rarely see 300 so I'd go with the 7
You left out the 30-30 inside 100 yards, but it'll stretch out also.
Good video, appreciate the work you put in.
Thanks for the data, that takes some time! I like the 7mm out of those 2 👍
My brother shot a spike elk this morning at 100 yards 180 grain winchester boolets. Shot it right in the melon. We dressed it out and always keep the heart.... the bottom of the heart was split🤔 about a four inch Crack right along the bottom and could have only been the pressure rise through the blood vessels. No guff
Unless I was hunting in Grizzly bear country I choose the 7mm rem mag. The 300 win mag with a 210 to 225 grain bullet is a definite advantage in energy over the 7mm. Pushing close to 4000 ft lbs at the muzzle, according to some of the numbers I've seen. 7mm rem mag recoil is only a touch more than a 30 06 with comparable wt bullets. I have a Weatherby Vanguard2 in 7mm rem mag and love it.
Personally I consider a 7mm to be a good margin more painful than a .30-06.
I'm an old man with old rifles 30 06, 7mm mauser even a 308 they'll do anything that needs doing
Love your vids brother, keep em comin! Personally I went with 300wm, being a reloader with 300blk, a few 308's and a 300prc, it just made sense. Absolutely no regrets, it's a powerhouse and slams steel 10 for 10 at 1000 yards. It also does amazing things to a hog head from 100 yards.
Co caliber components ftw
yup. one of the only reasons i decided on 300 mag over 7 mag is because my other rifle is a 308 so i can use the same bullets
yup. one of the only reasons i decided on 300 mag over 7 mag is because my other rifle is a 308 so i can use the same bullets
In the hills of Ky, 30-30 is the way to go but, I love the 300 mag.
I like both. Have a savage 111 in 7 mag, remington 783 in 300 mag
As an avid reloader, not too much a fan of the big magnums. I rarely take a shot at more than three hundred yards. Besides prairie dogs, I shoot cans and paper. That said, I own the 7mm win mag in case I need to hit something large, or past 400 yards. I can shoot my 7mm08 almost twice as much with the same amount of powder. Twice as much fun at the same cost.
If I want to nail a moose or something comparable, either 300 mag or 7mm mag will take care of me.
I own both. I have always known what this post proves. I am in the process of setting up a Winchester M70 Laredo with the Boss, for long range. My M70 Super Grade .300WM is for hunting. The Laredo is 7mm Mag.
Perfect answer and around my parts the 300 WM hands down more ammo selection.
I've had both the 7mm rem mag and the .300 win mag. I've shot both a lot and the difference I noticed between my two rifles was my 7mm kicked less than my .300. Both were very accurate as long as did my part. I only hunted with my .300 win mag though I sold the 7mm shortly after I got it, I figured I didn't need two magnum rifles. I've got a .338 win mag now and I bought it because I wanted something that could reach out to 3 or 400 yards and still have a fair bit of punch to it. Where I live in Northeastern BC Canada we have an open season for Bison and I wanted something with a little more horsepower than my old .358 Winchester.
So, you sold a 7mm because you had a 300 and did not need 2, but then bought a 338? Are you sure you do not need 2 magnum rifles? Also where you claim to live in Canada, better not get caught with those guns. Justin will not be happy
I've only got one magnum rifle. I sold both the 7mm and .300 over 30 years ago. 😊
Good video, awesome content. Thanks for all of your efforts to get these gun/ammo videos out. Lots of experience and knowledge to listen to. Nice to have the benefit of learning from a man that knows. 👍🇺🇸
Thanks for watching Charles
Aren't you missing the fact that the slightly larger diameter of 300 win mag will transfer MORE energy to the animal than the 7mm?
Great video! I’ve got a moose tag here in east coast Canada, specifically central Labrador. I’ve never shot a big game animal but excited to get the first one down. I’m shooting a 30-06 Remington core lokt 180gr
The 30-06 will do just fine.
For a first time hunter keeping your shots 150 yards and in you will do just fine. The 30-06 is very capable out to 300 .
But as with any other cartridge shot placement is key!
Good luck on your hunt.
Enjoy every minute of it.
Excellent video. Awesome charts and data. If you were doing a paper for school, you would be getting an A.
Do you have any recommendations for a 9mm rifle?
Nice job on your presentation! To you point it is all in the math and personal choice & use. If lower BC you have to have enough velocity to off set the higher BC bullet. Why 6.5 are so popular at 1000 yards. 300 Win Mag is more available. 7mm has less recoil. I own both as well as 7mm Wby Mag and 300 Wby Mag. I had an Outfitter in NM turn me own to Federal Terminal Ascent Bullets. 7mm 155 has a BC of .586. 30 cal 200 has a BC = .608 & 175 BC = .520. These bullets are tough to enough to kill elk etc. Back in the day the 7mm Remington Magnum eased it reputation on the range with a 168 GR Grain Match King Hollow Point. My favorite if you can take the recoil is the 300 Wby Mag. There is a very good reason why it is their “1 selling cartridge.
The Marine Corps Ceytech M200 & M300 use the Winchester Magnum 300 round it recently replaced the Remington M40A3 & M40A5. 308 Remington based off the Remington Model 700ADL.
Great comparrison! Thanks. People should also take flight time into consideration at extreme distances. A lot can happen in a second.
Just got a 7mm. Have a 7RUM but with the lack of amo for it got the 7mm. Amo is easy to find and it’s a great all around caliber especially for longer range on big game like elk. The 300 is overkill especially since there is this thing called the 3006:)
Did the same thing. 7rum is awesome but with no amo got a 7mag
I got an experiment idea. I've been looking around and can't find much information.
The idea is hand loading 300wm and 30-06 same powder&bullet type and weight to 30-06 specs. Would they perform the same with same barrel length?
Then 300wm and 308 hand loaded same powder, bullets to 308 specs.
Then 300wm and 30-30 hand loaded to same 30-30 specs.
Then maybe 300wm and 30 carbine. To 30 carbine specs.
Would there be must different in velocity and energy with the experments?? I'm curious. Too much empty space in the case??
My tikka 7mm with 155g browning bullets are my happy place here in Auz for deers, we are lucky no bears here to hunt us back lol
270 for Bucks. 300 Win Mag. for Bulls. We got fat ones here on the Oregon Coast! Thanks for the share!!
Hey, Thanks great work/fun. I have 7mag, but I was would like to see bullet ballistics, especially penetration test for 10mm pistol and 10mm rifle
My pick is 7mm RUM, however I just got a 300 win mag that I'll be hunting with this year. Would like to see a comparison between those two. Love the 7 ultra, but have had it for 20 yrs and feel it getting a lil burned out...and it's heavy!
For me I prefer the 300 but. 7mm rem mag using 168 accubond. Is hard to beat. My 20 inch 300 winmag Tikka shoots 190 accubond long range. Still gives me 700 yard expanding velocity
I used the old school Winchester Black Talons in 7. Punched clean threw an elk at 300 yds. I think the 300 is more versatile though.
@@odinsson204 nice. Generally we get pass through with 168 barnes in 7mm rem mag threw 26 inch barrel. With super hot load. Told my friend to build his son a 7mm08 Ackley with 20 inch barrel. He killed a elk with his dad's old 175 grain partition load.
Would like to have a 7mm mag. Only reason I went with 300 win is because when my late grandfather passed he left me 2 browning 300win mag rifles plus the reloading dies ect
Great video! Good job Adam. Very informative and interesting 👍
Ballistically speaking the 7mm mag is flatter shooting. Plus I've shot elk at over 600 yards and seen bullets go straight through Bone and kick dirt up behind it. Both are awesome rounds I just prefer the 7💪💯
That's not true. The 300 mag. is higher velocity and shoots just as flat if not flatter. For many years the 300 Weatherby mag. was known as the flattest shooting rifle made. The 300 mag. will shoot a 200 grain bullet as fast as a 7mm will shoot a 160 grain bullet thus giving the 300 a better BC and much more mass.
@@russellkeeling4387 lol that's not true lol everyone says that look it up and history on the 7mm magnum 😜😂🤙💯
does the 300 win mag have a 150 gr tipped or the 7mm have a 175 gr tipped ?
In America, 30 cal is minimum, from a sabot at 5000fps to a 230 grain thumper, 10 pound rifle with a brake, bipod, and a solid optic you can do anything
At 1000 yds. the energy is about equal to a .45 ACP at the muzzle for the Core Locts and about equal to a .357 Mag at the muzzle for the Core Loct Tips to put it in perspective. WTW, I hope you do this same comparison again when Remington finally releases their new rounds with the Speer bullets for the 300 wm and 7mm Rem mag. Bigger bullets and higher BC's.
Hey Adam I was late for the live but I did watch the video and bubba you never fail to produce great content. Loved the video keep up the great work
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Man oh man , the 300 win mag guys are lucky you didn't compare the 7mm 175 grain loads...the difference would have even been more in favor of the 7mm. However at reasonable ranges a elk or moose won't know the difference. With a good bullet with a decent BC the 7mm mag is hard to beat....great video hoss..
Fun fact, the 7mm was the firearm once used as a sniper rifle by the U.S secret service in counter terrorism
Nice comparison of the two using Rem CL bullets.
Always liked Remington Ammo-especially the Express shotshells .
May have to try the .22 LR Golden HP again now that they are under new ownership.
They were great on small game especially Squirrels-expanded well.
Switched to CCI Mini Mag when Rem had issues. May take a peek and see how they group and 30-30 when they show up again.
I'm not a hunter, and really have never had a chance to, but if I were to go out hunting (hog, deer, moose...etc) I would have to take out the new kid on the block, the 8.6 Blackout. Mostly because if I were to hunt it would likely be, with permission, on someone else's land, and having a silenced option would be the considerate thing to do. Great video as usual 😁👍🏽
im looking for the best rifle for 100 yards other than 270 what would be your choice with most knock down thanks for your videos
Did you switch the 7mm and 300WM data for the regular core Lokts? I don't see how the 7mm bullet with a higher BC drops more at shorter distances then drops less than the 300WM at longer ranges.😊 The ballistics should be more liked tipped version.
Because it has a slower muzzle velocity to start out which overcomes the B.C until it doesnt down the road.
3290 with the 150 300 win mag
3110 with the 150 7mm mag.
looks like going by weight it doesnt make a difference until about 800 yards. With the tipped you can't compare the two because of the weight difference.
They're both phenomenal cartridges. I'm a 300 guy myself, but have friends who shoot 7mm. I would like to see the 7mm core lokt tipped in 175 in the chart also since it's closer in weight to the 300 rounds just for comparison. Great video though.
As you mentioned, they both have their place. I have a 300 win-mag but do not yet have a 7mm mag. I have a 270, a 30-30, a 308, a 30-06, and the 300wm. So I have a gap between the 270 and 30 calibers. I am trying to decide whether to go ahead and get a 7mm mag or hold out for a better selection of the 7mm PRC? I mostly range shoot but do a guided hunt each year. I have trophy whitetail, this year is elk, next year is either Bison or Black Bear.
I own both calibres, but have always been a fan of the 7mmRemMag more. It would be cool to see a comparison with closer weight bullets, like the 175gr and 162gr to 168gr bullets with the 7mmRemMag.
One thing you might want to consider incorporating into your videos is the data from where the bullet falls below say 2003 per second. Each individual bullet has a working range of velocity where it will expand. Drop data for beyond that range it's just hitting the target and probably won't do much expanding. Glad to see the chronograph in your videos thank you
Time to geek out ! Looks like the 6.5 PRC beats both for target work without beating you up as much. For hunting though, especially out west , going with the bigger hole theory , 300 win for the score , but that opens up the 30PRC debate. Good stuff.
Not the PRCs
7 mm or 300 wm works just fine, but I prefer 300 wsm but think I'm using 308 this year can find bullets for it and a lot cheaper 🤔
The German K98 uses the Remington 7mm-08 along with the K31 Swiss , Yugoslavian M24/47 , M48, Czechoslovakian VZ24, Chinese Hayang Type 88, Spanish M43, Swedish M96 Carbine. The round is a Bottle Necked 308 243 Winchester Magnum uses a hotter powder. 270 Remington is a bottle necked round compared to the 30.06 Springfield round. The best round would be 300 Winchester Magnum.
I love my 7 mm weatherby, and it is what every you prefer !