Summer Gear Review! New Rods And Reels! Shimano, Daiwa, 13 Fishing, St. Croix, Spro, And More!
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- We're checking out our favorite new rods and reels from ICAST 2023! Shimano's Poison Ultima, Curado M, and Aldebaran BFS! Daiwa's Tatula MQ LT and the Tatula Elite AGS line! 13 Fishing's Muse Black II and Axum Competion, St. Croix Mojo Bass and many others! ICAST Was full of great gear this year, you don't want to miss this!
This year's ICAST event was packed with awesome new gear! So much so that we've had to break this gear review into multiple videos! We're covering rods and reels from one end of the spectrum to the other at every price point. If you missed the show and want to know what the real gems were, we've got you covered.
Below you'll find links to the rods and reels discussed in the video. We've even included our favorite reel speeds and rod models to give you a starting point. All the links go directly to Tackle Warehouse where you can see detailed photos and descriptions of each item.
CASTING REELS...
•Shimano Curado 200 M: bit.ly/3YafZyg
•Shimano Aldebaran BFS: bit.ly/3ryXKpR
•Seviin GF Series: bit.ly/3qa2SQZ
SPINNING REELS...
•Daiwa Tatula MQ LT: bit.ly/3QgTXru
Favorite Size: 2500D-XH
•13 Fishing Axum Competition: bit.ly/43GsId6
Favorite Size: 2.0
•13 Fishing Ascent Competition: bit.ly/3YsrOQF
Favorite Size: 2.0
SHIMANO INTENZA...
•Shimano Intenza Casting: bit.ly/3QjR9Kw
Models: 6'9" Medium, 7'2" Medium Heavy, 7'6" MH Glass
•Shimano Intenza Spinning: bit.ly/3O8zBye
Models: 7' Med Light, 7'4" Med Light
ST. CROIX MOJO BASS...
•St. Croix Mojo Bass Casting: bit.ly/44XrLyk
Models: 6'8" medium, 7'4" Heavy, 7'2" Med Mod
•St. Croix Mojo Bass Spinning: bit.ly/3ObaWsF
Models: 6'10" Med Light, 7'3" Medium
MUSE BLACK...
•13 Fishing Muse Black II Casting: bit.ly/45or55h
Models: 7'1" Medium Heavy, 7'3" Medium
•13 Fishing Muse Black II Spinning: bit.ly/3YssC89
Models: 6'10" med Light, 7'6" Medium
TATULA ELITE AGS...
•Daiwa Tatula Elite AGS Casting: bit.ly/3DvbNzH
Models: 7' Med Med Heavy Ehrler, 7'5" Med Heavy Johnston
•Daiwa Tatula Elite AGS Spinning: bit.ly/44O7Fqo
Models: 7'6" Feider, 7'6" Johnston
SPRO SWIMBAIT...
•Spro KGB Swimbait Rod: bit.ly/3DwJVuS
•SPRO KGB Chad Shad 180: bit.ly/3AqivoQ
FENWICK WORLD CLASS...
•Fenwick World Class Casting: bit.ly/3qbGEya
Models: 7' Medium Heavy, 7'6" Medium Heavy
POISON ULTIMA...
•Shimano Poison Ultima Casting: bit.ly/3OfNBGe
Models: 6'10" Medium, 7' Med Heavy
FAVORITE REEL FOR POISON ULTIMA...
•Shimano Aldebaran MGL 50: bit.ly/2fdX1Uy
Speed: 7.4:1
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When Matt says he's gonna work his way up in price and starts with an Intenza a new fear gets unlocked
😂😂😂 This segment was no joke on price! We really didn't see a lot of neat budget stuff this time around. Two items stood out but we weren't able to get them yet... soon I hope.
Facts 🤣😂
Agree! I’ve already spent 1k this month on gear & bait. 😳
🌅🙌🏻👍🏻Good morning, TB family!!! Heading to my secret spot this morning, wish me luck!🤞🏻🎣
Good luck!!
Thanks guys!
In order - Poison Ultima, Poison Glorius (it was the pioneer of Poison series), Poison Adrena, Bantam, World Shaula, Expride, Zodias, Curado, etc. There is also Exsence Infinity for bottom applications.
That's why you guys are number one out of all the bass channels. Thanks Matt.
Im stoked about that Aldebaren BFS! I have multiple Aldebarens on Megabass P5 jerkbait rods and cant say enough about them. Been fishing BFS with the Curado BFS reels on Dobyns Sierra 701 and P5 BFS rod. I think those reels will make a huge huge difference! I didnt buy them from Japan because of no warranty, but I will now!
Absolutely awesome,thank you Matt and Tim for going to I Cast 👏👏❤️
I have a Shimano Curado BFS reel and Shimano Curado 7’2” med Lt to pair it up with coming in this week. Used the links in other videos to buy them. Really appreciate these gear guides, truly helps me make more informed decision and not just buy n hope.
Love the reviews. I am really looking foward to getting a few Mojo rods in my hands. I have fished the St. Croix Mojo line for the last 2 years and love them. I deal with neopathy in my hands and it gets very painful fishing sometimes. I am hoping the new Trigon handle will help that alittle. Since I can't afford an $800.00+ rod I will give the new mojo a good shot. And I love my mojos.
I already have the MQ LT and absolutely love it. Awesome reel
I'm so glad to see Ultima's come to the US domestic market! I have multiple from Japan and they along with the Megabass Super Leggara are at the very top of the bass rod market. Cannot recommend them enough.
I glide on a 5 power GLX Umbrella rig rod mostly and I love it. I have a X Heavy Curado that I never use, and I also hsve used a Heavy 13 Fate in a pinch that worked fine as well. Fenwick is amazing by the way, they have the WORLDS most sensitive 99 dollar rods if you ask me.
Hey Matt: Great video as always. I know you and Tim cover a lot of rod and reel brands including Shimano which you both love. That said why not much about Okuma? Thanks…🎣🤔😎🐝
WOAH!! That Shimano Poison looks awesome!!! 😂😂
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Oh Matt, I’ve got the Poison Adrena with the Metanium and it’s my favorite ❤️ but, you’re gonna cost me again and I’ve really waiting for your review ( I just trust you). Of course I have to start out with 1 so I’ll look at your recommendations…..😎👊 I still have my Fenwick rods and I bought 2 spools of 1000 yard Fenwick Line, which at the time I loved it ( price and performance) 😂😂 great review as always 💯👏👏👏
The handle thing was big in the knife industry in the early 2000s. The whole triangle grip. Gotta say I like the new intenza look.
@tacticalbassin I see you recommended the 7’2” medium mod mojo bass, casting. Are you thinking that is an excellent chatterbait/lipless option? Thanks!
Keep your eye on the MQ handle. I've seen multiple places now where after some use the handle gets some play/knock in it.
Would love to see you guys try out some stupid high end rods above even the Ultima. Steez Racing Design, Poison Glorious, Megabass Arms Challenge, Megabass Super Leggerra, Megabass Hunstman.
Great video Great information. Bassmd
For Michigan angler, would you recommend the Tatula Elite AGS 7'6" or Pre Order the Expride B 7'6" ML. Got the Expride B 6'10" because how much you guys liked it. As a gift, just got the new Tatula Elite AGS 7'4"(Frog rod). Really enjoy both rods but wondering if you think one is better over the other or had another recommendation. Thanks for the gear reviews & Vids 🍻
Not sure if you ever have but I'd love to see a review on the new(ish) powell naked rods. And/or endurance. I'm biased of course because they're the rods I found that I fell in love with and it's all I care to fish now haha. But would love your take
Poison Ultima ... the ultimate rod, but the day it brocke , I just want to die ...
I enjoy your work because it’s obvious you are having a good time. PS : the beard looks good!
Have y’all got hands on the recently released 6th Sense Response rod? It’s their new neko/wacky/Dropshot rod. The limited time I’ve had it on the water has made the 6’10” medium my new favorite wacky rod. And they are reasonably priced at $130
Good review, there’s definitely some new things to try. You should pick up an Ark invoker limited 6’8” med extra fast and throw an alderbaran on it. There is something seriously special about that rod. It’s really a fast action ML but the sensitivity competes with the best.
Until it breaks like the other Ark rods
@@RyanSmith-fb8rf Nah, I fished it hard for 2 years now…it’s fine.
Love it
Super happy to hear you're excited about Fenwick. Next to St croix, they're some of my favorite rods....they just work for me. Great video guys.
We both grew up Fenwick fans. It seems like the brand has had a long journey with my last few purchases not being what I expected. But this definitely seemed like a positive turn.
Tim and I always prefer to stay positive and point out the good in the industry. Sometimes this translates to the community thinking we haven't tried a given product. We're ALWAYS looking, and just like World Class... when a good one jumps out, we acknowledge it 👍🏼
@@tacticalbassin absolutely. I made a comment in one of your vids a few weeks ago about jigs, and how all this info really does help us out...your info turned me and boy's day around, and we had a blast. Keep the vids coming! I retire from the USCG next summer and we're buying a house in TN, maybe I'll see you guys around.
Thanks so much for taking the time to share that, it really does motive us on the long days.
You're going to love TN! It's a special place!
I have the new Intenza on the way (7'6" Med Heavy Glass). Was going to pair with the Trax 200A but TW put the Curado 200K on a daily sale for $150 (and I got a extra 10%) so I ended up going with the 200K. It's going to be my first crankbait specific setup and I feel like a kid waiting on Christmas for it to show up.
So how would you compare the ultima to an adrena, NRX+, or steez ags? Is the ultima the new pinnacle of sensitivity? I love the feel of my poison adrena and the monocoque handle but at 2.25x the price, is it a marginal increase in sensitivity or do rocks and gravel feel like being hit by a bus?
Another great video Matt, thanks! Would love to hear if you've got any recommendations for baitcasting rod/reel combos for children to learn on. I've got a 5 and 8 year wanting to get off of their spinning reels already and chuck some jigs and swimbaits out there.
Shimano DC & Daiwa SV spool baitcasters are the best options IMO. The Ugly Stik Carbon rod is good for kids/youth, but it's still a decent rod.
@@thesonorandesertangler Will look into those, thanks!
Hello, Do you have any recommendation for the saltwater baitcaster reel + rod combo? Thanks
YESSSSSSSSSS. Just got some popcorn and here we goooo!
What is the like best starter bfs rod, just picked up a bfs reel but need a good kinda do it all rod for it
I’m looking forward to seeing you guys do a sensitivity “battle” between the Poison Ultima versus the NRX and the NRX+ seeing as the NRX/+ are the “industry standard” for sensitivity.
There is no battle. The Ultima and the Megabass Super Leggara are in their own level that is leaps and bounds above anything on the market.
Just ordered an Aldebaran BFS ! 2023 is going to be the year that BFS explodes in the USA. There are so many rod and reel options now. I'm excited for the new Evergreen Combat Sticks as well.
Hi tactical. Is the Poison Ultima 6.10 casting a better throwing suited mega bass oneten 110 jerkbait than the p5 oneten stick og is it just a bottom contact rod.
I’m about to invest.
Jesper Denmark.
I’d be interested to know how the new Daiwa AGS compares to the Expride B as far as sensitivity etc.
Any thoughts or input on the newish Ark Gravity series reels?
Can y’all do a review on the new Zodias frog rod I love froggin and I love all of y’all’s frog videos and that will be the next frog rod I will get
If I'm going to get an ultima for a worm rod in Florida would you go with the mh or m?
Is the handle one separate piece from the blank? Or is it a through blank design? On the Poison Ultima?
Ironically I have the original KGB Swimbait rod inbound from Tacklewarehouse, due to arrive today. What you described is exactly what I was hoping for. Mine is the KGB vice the Spro KGB, slightly different in specs.
The KGB is wayyyy more parabolic than the SPRO. For our style it's just not the deal but if that's what you're after it might be even more of what you're looking for. 👍🏼
Amed I was wondering what did you guys think of the new Brett Hite chatter bait rod
Matt do you sell your old gear or just have a massive collection?
Can you do a video on weather and bass fishing? Talk about what different types of weather do to the bass, how they behave, and what to throw.
wow that shimano poison ultima the rod weighs less than some of the baits you would throw on it just crazy. and i can see folks buying it. unfortunately it's not me. great job love seeing the new stuff to dream about.
I'm looking forward to getting a 201m and intenza
Overall a good breakdown. Daiwa and Shimano are the only choice for reels imo.
The new curado is a meh for me looks like they will get scratched up fast with the gloss. Just keeping the K’s I have. It would be really something if they went retro and released D’s or E series again.
Just FYI , Daiwa didn’t get lighter with the new Tatula. Its construction definitely got stronger though.
That última looks sweet
If you notice, when you put your hand on the Mojo once the reel was on it, you aren't even touching the new triangle handles. I don't think most people do while they're actually working the rod/reeling).
🙋🏾♂️ i got a 8.5 lb largie and i never expect to break that here in NY/NJ
Do you guys have an opinion on fitzgerald rods?
I’m looking for a replacement for my Daiwa CG80 that is on my BassX jerkbait rod, this couldn’t have come at a better time. It’s hard to find a reel in the 6.5 oz range without breaking the bank.
Hey Matt have you and Tim had the chance to mess with the new Brett Hite super combat stick yet by evergreen
It looks pretty nice
What about the Abu Garcia revo sx sp spinning reel. I’m interested in getting one
Yes!!!!
You need to check out the travel HMG 2 piece rod, it’s more sensitive than most my 250-300 dollar rods. Not sure why
Also. I'm very curious. Is there any reason why you guys don't review googan or 6th sense products?
Hey mate, two footnotes:
The new Curado M has also got a brand new drag washers that should be a hybrid form between felt and carbon and result in heavy spiking / more hooking power.
Zodias and Expride got a Monocoque handle, Poison Adrena has got a Full Monocoque handle. Thats already a noticable difference. Curious whats different about the Ultima's handle.
The entire structure of the Ultima's handle is different. It has 3 spines (each corner) instead of 1 so it's torsionally much stronger. Where all the existing monocoque handles are essentially a single rolled tube, this is multiple pieces overlapped to build the structure. And then I suspect shape has a lot to do with the vibration amplification though I am admittedly just an angler and some of that tech goes over my head.
@@tacticalbassin I totally understand and that suits you. I Work for the company so I do have to get into that technical stuff. But about the Ultimata, it really looks amazing. Unfortunately, were not gonna get em in Europe :/ Great review and keep it up!
@@davidvanmaanen-icperch2797 you should be able to get Ultimas on the JDM.
The semi triangular handle on the stcroix should really help with control
I WILL own a poison ultima!! I want the 7’2” heavy from the JDM market though. Gonna have to buy a couple of those!
I haven't found a better 3/8ish to 3/4ish oz bottom contact rod on the market.
What do you do with old reels?
I'm not a fan of buying 2 of the same reels even in different sizes no matter how good it is. But the Stradic Fm is crazy for the price. I won one in a raffle and didn't even use it until I saw I cast. I own the new Antarres DC and I love it. I actually put it down and have fished the stradic for 3 weeks now. I will b buying another in the 3000 I have the 2500
Thats awesome! Thanks for the insight!
How would you guys rate the mgl spools for smaller to medium swimbait use (1-4oz). More specifically the curado m with the 200 size spool?
They've been using the MGL spool in Japan for Swimbaits for years now. It's pretty exciting that they brought the MGL 3 spool down to the Curado line. The Bantam MGL was the lowest price point with an MGL 3 spool until now.
@thesonorandesertangler based on what you seen what would you feel comfy throwing with one on a regular basis?
@@McFish_Snatcher I mean I throw 1-3 oz on my Shimano Scorpion DC no problem and that's a 150 size MGL spool. Using 20 lb Big Game Mono. Dobyns 795SB Fury.
@@thesonorandesertangler nice! Have you tried bigger wake baits with that extra resistance in the water?
@@McFish_Snatcher I mainly throw S Waver's in all 3 sizes and it's not an issue at all. I think the biggest size is about 4 ounces or close to it.
Hi guys, please help me with this I want to pair my curado 150 MGL with a good rod for bass I like versátil I was thinking about shimano expride or gloomis Gcx? What you recommend?
The grip on the Poison Ultima looks like it would be slick. Is it?
Will be interesting to see what they do with the Gen 2 Conquests now that the Ultima is in the market. Expecting to see that around the Classic... hopefully they don't wait until icast next year to release them.
I would love to see the Conquest go into multiple techniques specific models like the old GLX and current IMX models. I conquest crankbait, chatterbait, etc rod would be sweet.
Matt, thank you both for the tutorials. I really like good equipment. I’m 76 and my hands and joints are worn out. Lighter quality equipment makes fishing a different experience. I have several Lumas rods that I’ve had 35 plus years and quality makes night and day difference.
Have you seen the Mojo BFS rods? Just crossed one up at the local shop.
I think we may have to see a Megabass Arms series rods on one of these buyer’s guides.
I can tell you right now, that if I had the budget to do it, I would be picking up one of those Poison Ultima IMMEDIATELY!
Am I correct in assuming you guys will be testing and reviewing the new SLX 70?
Also, I think it would be a good idea for Shimano to bring the SLX BFS to the US...🤞
Can y’all post an honest review over the falcon rods lineup? I know you were impressed with the warranty and I know falcon rods have always had great warranty and price for their lineups.
I just got the JDM Aldebaran BFS, now that it’s coming to the US will i be able to get it repaired here, after it releases here? Nothing is wrong with mine, just curious.
If they're able to tell the difference by serial number or a minor change in the reel I didn't notice, no you wouldnt get service on JDM product. But to my eye they seem like the same reel so time will tell.
@@tacticalbassinok, thanks for the quick reply. Hopefully everything is smooth sailing with my new reel and i’ll never have to find out. 🤞🏽
I've got a request for a video or series of videos. I've gotten some decent gear so far and now I'm trying to upgrade the gear I have. Example is the 13 Fishing Defy rods I have are okay but I'd like to upgrade them with lighter and more sensitive brands/models. The Defy rods were cheap but I don't want to experiment with new rods by dropping $100 to see how they perform. I do my best to test how they feel in stores but do most of my shopping online.
How about doing a video for best (lightest/most sensitive) rods $100-$150, $150-$200, etc.. I'll go back and rewatch your combo videos from this last year and see if I'm just forgetting info you've already given. Thanks.
Someone has to ask so I guess it’ll be me. How does the ultima compare to the NRX+!? We have to know!
I just picked up a Daiwa zillion HD JDM model. Whats a good 2 piece rod to match with it. Im thinking zodias or daiwa rebellion.
Where in TN are y’all?
Matt, is the new Aldebaran on the same level as the Metanium? Would you pair a Metanium with the Poison Ultima? Thanks for the weight advise. Getting old and every ounce counts.
The new Aldebaran is a BFS specific reel and the only 2 Ultima baitcasting rods available on the US market are a 6'10" M and a 7' MH. You could use the Aldebaran BFS but would be severely limiting yourself with it over the Aldebaran 50. Personally, I have several Ultimas from Japan, and model dependant they have a mix of Aldebarans, Metaniums and Steezs on them. With the 2 US models, I'd go Aldebaran on both or Aldebaran on the 6'10"M and Metanium on the 7'MH.
@@dustinwalker8152 Thanks Brother!
@@chrisbaldwin7734 no problem brother, hope it helps. They're also$100-200 cheaper buying from Japan. JDM tackle haven is a solid source as well as many others. God bless!
@@dustinwalker8152 Thanks man, I'll check it out.
Thank you for mentioning BFS. Pro-staff may not use it but that doesn't mean it should be out of reach for consumers.
My wife has put the Kibosh on me buying any tackle 😢😂 but I need to get my hands on that 200M!!!
Id love to see s little clip of each item when you talk about them. Maybe next set of reviews?
We prefer to do the same but coming off the heals of ICAST this was all we could manage... we don't care for it either but knew the information was important enough to put out, even in its most plain, boring form. Sorry!!
There is an MGL spool for Curado K, Shimano just opted not to offer it in the US market.
Zman came out with a brand new ned rig rod. Super short and not even a reel seat. Desperately want to see a review on that.
If you had to choose one spinning rod between mojo bass and altenza who would you pick
Definitely depends on application. What are you doing with it?
Finesse fishing. Drop shot
@@alfredcoates1422 I would go with the St. Croix Mojo Bass. The St. Croix Mojo has a 5 year warranty over Shimano Altenza 1 year. If you can I would try to get both in your hands to see which one feels best to you.
Thanks for the info. That's one of the problems getting your hands on both.
You threw me on the Spro rod being too soft, too parabolic for braid but good for flouro. Braid has very little stretch ( much less than flouro) and that’s when you want a more forgiving rod. Mono can get by with the heavier rods. Braid, softer rods and flouro falls in between those two.
To be clear... its not the braid, it's the style. Our style is HEAVY braid and DRAGGING those giants to the boat on stout gear. As opposed to the style of (relatively) light fluoro, parabolic rods to stay loaded up on a slower fight, and relying on steady pressure with light line to land swimbait fish.
I hope that makes more sense.
What’s up with those new St Croix Mojo grips?
For Christmas I'd like a rod that "wants to fly away"
My wife loves you guys 😂
A lil outta my budget LOL! Well done Matt on the video tho, no gimmicks, no bs, just straight telling us the stuff we need to know! Appreciate you getting these things and testing them out HONESTLY for ALL to hear.
Thank you for the support! This video definitely reset the meaning of expensive gear but we need to know about it because inevitably there will be a trickle down affect into budget gear at some point in the future 👍🏼
I sure wish they would bring the SLX bfs over
Will y’all be doing a review on the evergreen super combat stick?
I hope so 🙂 It's on the list!
Awesome! Definitely got my eyes on it. Thanks to y’all I done bought another NRX+ yesterday. Keep up the great work guys it’s appreciated more than you know!
But did you guys get an ultrex quest???
No we haven't yet, but Tim did get the opportunity to fish with one and loved it!
The Aldebaran bfs I love it to but American reel $469.98 or less I rather buy the Japan Aldebaran bfs $272.98 and buy two for the price of one if you have any sense
Bfs make a 3lb feel like a fish of a life time.
FACTS!! It's so fun!!
This stuff is like the Bass Pro catalog, all I can do is look. Waaaay out of the average guys range. You guys need to do one on the “best Walmart rods and reels”😂
Love my BFS. Luckily I know people who work on JDM stuff. No way Im paying $200 more for the US version of the Aldebaran over ordering it from Japan.
Not just with the Aldebaran but with all of the higher end reels that Shimano and Daiwa make.
same models but spec wise they're not the same. goes for every one of them
@@cali_cal they typically just all have shallower spools.
@@dustinwalker8152 sometimes handles sizes , internals might be brass instead of aluminum and outside materials. bearings could be less or more. even though more doesn't mean better. etc
Shimano needs to implement the G Loomis lifetime transferable warranty on that $900 Poison Ultima otherwise 👎🏻 but still glad to see TB put it to the test🙂
I added a M and MH Poison Ultima casting rods to cart but seeing as how I already have NRX+ and Conquests and the self admission that a Mojo Bass is probably the most rod my fishing requires, common sense took ahold of me before I clicked “pay now”. 😂
Reply to my own comment: I went and bought the damned things... gonna go cry in the shower now
Honestly pretty surprised the new Stradic wasn't covered.
We can't cover (or get our hands on) all of it, there's just too many launches at the same time. It looked really, really good in person! Hopefully we can test one in the coming weeks, if not we will cover it as soon as we do.
I’ve seen videos where ppl have said there’s really nothing new to really brag about