When the characters get a chance to actually KILL the murderer but they just knock them out instead and run. Like they are going to wake up and still go after you....? I could never understand the reasoning behind that choice.
this was why I respected the Black Phone so much! Five minutes into the movie, when the kid sat on the bully and kept punching him, they established that this was a story where when someone goes down, you make sure they don't get back up.
The movie Sick from last year had a couple good subversions of this trope (which I also can't stand). About halfway through the movie the protagonist gets the antagonist down on the floor and proceeds to whack him in the head with a metal pot or something, I can't remember what. But once she starts she does not stop until she knows the guy is dead. Not only was it refreshing to see but it also makes you wonder ok, the bad guy is dead right? Where's the movie gonna go now? In another scene the same character hits someone with an oar in self-defense. She does toss it aside and runs, but in that case I can forgive her because I don't think an oar would be a very effective weapon to wield anyway.
Reading this comment immediately made me think of Scream 2 when Sidney CLIMBS OVER Ghostface instead of pulling his mask off. Great movie, but that part drives me mad.
My biggest ick in a horror movie is when they have an entire hospital and it seems to have only one patient. And is also completely lacking doctors and nurses.
the patient thing for sure. but in the US at least, there’s actually usually a severe lack of proper hospital staffing. like only 2 nurses on each floor sometimes
To be fair, we are facing a global staff shortage on doctors and nurses. There aren't enough health practitioners on this planet to accommodate the influx of patients that come in, so that part is realistic and I don't mind it too much to see it represented in films.
I think this depends. 911 calls go to the nearest cell tower regardless of which service provider you use, so if you’re out of range from your own service provider then the 911 call can still go through another provider. But if you’re completely out of range of all cell towers then you won’t be able to call. So it’s not always unrealistic.
- innocent child draws their "imaginary friend" thats a cheesy spooky shadow demon - dropping the weapon instead of taking it with you - house obviously being haunted/dangerous but main characters choose to stay for zero reason, despite having full control to - naked, barely-legal girl getting killed or jumped in the shower - sequels randomly being set in space?? like why was there a leprechaun movie but in space im so dead ☠
@@verronniica Jason X was fun. Plus the Friday the 13th movies were always kind of enjoyably trashy in a way. At least that’s how I viewed them so setting it in space isn’t really too far fetched in my opinion.
• When the female lead will gradually lose clothing throughout the movie. • When people don’t do a ‘double tap’ on the villain. Like make sure they are dead and definitely not going to come after you again!
@@miticaBEP07 Yes! It makes sense in that movie, she's in a goddamn wedding dress and she's on the run. She initially cuts off the bottom of the dress (to tea length, not a mini-skirt) so she can move better, and later she tears off a sleeve to bandage her wound. None of the modifications to her dress give the impression they were being done for the male gaze, just practicality and some wear-and tear that's realistic for the situation. It's worth noting as well, that even at the end of the film when Grace is at her most torn up, the high neckline of her dress remains intact.
I like how in Ready Or Not Grace looks like a mess by the end of the film. The way she's seen sitting on the steps covered in blood with matted hair is kind of refreshing.
The French movie frontier(s) does this extremely well.. in the end of the movie the lead actress looks a total mess.. covered in blood and dirt, shaking.. hair cut off .. she is gorgeous but looks a mess at the end as she should
That's the only thing I didn't like about the "Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark" movie. I didn't want to follow just a group of teenagers. I wanted to follow different stories from various age groups.
killing/hurting animals for shock value, the husband not believing his wife, character makes a really stupid decision that no human alive would ever make, “let’s split up” is this fucking scooby doo?, the lighting being so god damn dark i can’t see shit, just being overall confusing for no reason, plots based on s**cide. i could go on
I just watched the first Texas chainsaw movie and the scene where Sally and Franklin are at the car drives me crazy. I know they eventually find out they don’t have the car keys but sally is fully like “it’s pitch black outside and 3 of our friends have gone missing. Why don’t I go look for them and leave my friend who is in a wheelchair alone even though we could drive to a nearby gas station.” That one wasn’t even reasonable and it just made me angry haha
@@cez_is_typingYou can chalk up the stupid character decisions of that film to be intentional. The creator has stated various time he intended to make the characters a parody of American youth, and actually wanted the film to be rated PG since he viewed it as a comedy (no, like seriously).
My “icks” would be 1. People see something obviously traumatizing but then go on acting like it didn’t happen. (Usually in haunted house/posession movies) 2. In zombie movies everyone seems to be perfect at getting headshots like they turn into John wick. 3. The bad guy has no problem killing tons of people and is super strong but once they get to the main characters they become incompetent and weak.
These are all good, but I really agree with that third one. I as it the Hunted with benecio del toro takes out literally everyone and then struggles to fight Tommy Lee jones. Like what? At least give him a pre-fight injury like the gladiator
Yes on the first one! I'm rewatching the Saw series right now, and I can't believe how many times a victim in the games will witness the most brutal death and gore happen in front of them, then they're back to cracking quips and sarcastic jokes.
In comedies it is alternate takes. The MCU hides plot points by deliberately showing things that don't happen. Trailer houses sometimes start on a trailer before the final edit, so they can sometimes use stuff that gets cut.
@DaydreamAllday Usually it happens because the trailer is edited by a team (sometimes a different studio/trailer house) to the people who are making the final film. They have been given a limited amount of footage to work with because the film is unfinished, so they don't know what scenes will be included and what won't. For an example of what happens when a trailer house edits a whole film, watch Suicide Squad (2016). The trailer looks amazing. The film is an editing nightmare. See also Folding Ideas video on the subject.
Black Christmas 2006 did this and it really made me bad because I went to the movie for that scene in particular only to find out it was for the trailer. Like the DVD didn't even have it as a deleted scene
None of the scenes from the Ouija (2014) trailer made it to the final cut of the film because Universal reshot almost the whole film right before its release. :(
My wife and I regularly complain about the trope of "gaslighting the lead female protagonist," where she's going through some stuff, and every single person- including loved ones, try to make her think she's crazy instead of making any effort whatsoever to help her or understand what she's experiencing. I get the isolation that comes from that is part of the horror- but it's old, tired, uncreative, and wayyy too common!
I actually think it’s fairly effective to have a couple, especially male characters doing that. It’s annoying and wrong but it’s accurate, men mitigate and ignore women’s struggles a lot. It’s definitely overused and certainly isn’t always meant to reflect this but it can be effective.
@@Higongeous That's true! It was pretty effective in Watcher (the one starring Maika Monroe). It worked because there was a greater sense of paranoia surrounding her character, especially in that context
Definitely not to reduce Kindred bc it is so much more than just this, but Kindred (book and show) does a great job of NOT doing this and in a very satisfying realistic way. It’s amazing sci-fi horror from the late 70s early 80s
The Orphan and how fucking stupid the husband was I swear. The only exception is pretty much the Invincible Man where the entire point there is that her ex is an abusive gaslighter who makes her seem crazy to everyone, even her friends, as a way to bring her back to him or make her pay for leaving him. That or they actually have a reasonable excuse as to why the people and especially the significant other think she’s crazy.
I would argue that the 'woman cannot be monstrous' trope has existed for as long as horror movies have. The earliest example I can think of is the Bride of Frankenstein. The monster can look horrendous but his female counterpart.. nah she needs to be attractive. Can't have the female monsters be y'know monstrous, God forbid. 🙄🙄
If you have an issue with that, then blame men. They won't want to see a movie with ugly or even average women. Hence this is what we get. A more extreme example is moral majority guys who squeal about how awful strip clubs are. Well, they wouldn't be a thing if your gender wasn't lining up for it.
Really makes me think of that one time on that Syfy show ‘Face Off’ when the female judge criticized one of the contestants for not making their female monster character attractive enough 🙄 it was so annoying
Reminds me of a joke innThe Misadventures of Flapjack Knuckles tells Flapjack "Its time you learn the difference between a man and a woman. A man is not a man unless hes ugly, a woman is not a woman unless shes pretty" or something like that
You know when men say hear me out and it's just an average looking woman? And when women say hear me out it's the ghoul from fallout or some shit. Like some actual class. Can't stand when men design monstrous female characters
One of my icks are how everyone has the ability and the means to shave legs and armpits in dystopian futures. Like they can be starving for food, but they are always shaved, and I can't imagine that ever being a priority compared to food, shelter and protection.
In a similar vein, it bothers me a lot that (in particular teenage) characters in apocalyptic/dystopian settings are never portrayed as getting any acne. I mean, it bothers me that there's little to no casual portrayal of acne in teenage characters anyway (it's only really ever used to demonstrate a characters undesirability when irl it's rarer find a teenager who wouldn't at least have a pimple or two)- but in an apocalypse? Nobody's gonna be keeping up their skincare routines.
@@omniscient.nescience the hunger games at least gave some explanation for that stuff, at least in the books. They would give the older male tributes some kind of hormone to keep their facial hair from growing or something along those lines
@@gemstone108I mean, they definitely had more emphasis on beauty for a reason in that book bc it was a reality shows. The Hunger Games was like Survivor but killing people off instead of voting them off, but like, it was all televised is my point. The book is kind of meant to be a deconstruction of reality show tropes and societal beauty standards and classicism. So anything that seems “off” is actually part of the point. They put makeup on Katniss or whatever to boost ratings. It’s part of the whole point of the thing, not something to just be looked at as “normal” or “natural”. The whole thing is unnatural and like, that’s the point.
Digging a hole takes a ton of time and effort. I laugh whenever I see someone digging a hole with a shovel and all of a sudden it's big enough for a casket.
Along with the bird jump scares, can we stop the screeching cat jump scares. Cats don't actually screech when they run by 🤨
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exactly. my cousin's gf's cat can jumpscare me, but not because she's loud, but because she's really quiet and then suddenly jumps on our table 😂😂 silly kitty
One of my biggest horror movie icks, which I see a lot in other media too, is when they needed some kind of “ominous” symbol to be carved into a tree or a wall or even a body so they just google pagan symbols and choose one they think looks spooky enough. They’ll be like “the symbol carved into the victims back is the sign of an ancient Celtic deity who demanded blood sacrifices every Tuesday” and meanwhile in real life the symbol would just mean like… “good harvest” or something.
Honestly I feel like this just stems from Christianity demonizing paganism. I mean Christianity is always seen as the saving forces in a lot of these horror movies while paganism is given a bad wrap time and time again
@@altalt479 lol that's so true. There are barely any (horror) movies where Christianity or similar faith is the bad guy. That's why I liked outlast 2. I just want some christian horror cult and not satanic for once.
This honestly. I really only know one pagan/ also wiccan symbol but it’s the pentacle that get misused the most I feel because it is so similar to the satan/occult symbol of the pentagram but I can’t take anything seriously when it’s very clearly the wrong star thing-
Imagine if they used multiple personality disorder in a horror movie but on the main character instead of the killer, like imagine a character with two personalities, and one of them witnessed something horrible and they run away very far (like in anothe country) before going silent, and now the other persona has to figure out what they saw
my biggest horror movie ick is when the the scariest parts of the film are almost entirely black like why can’t i see 75-90% of the film why am i squinting at the screen?
The one thing I cannot stand in horror movies is, why does it have to be so dark? it’s probably a good scene, but I can’t see what’s happening or why there is suspenseful music that’s playing, or if someone is dying!
And what’s up with the mumbling dialog? The screen is already so dark you can’t even see anything, now you can’t understand anything either unless you have the subtitles on.
Mine is in horror and all movies honestly, it’s the “we don’t have enough time I’ll tell you later” like NO YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME, you could have said what the issue was INSTEAD of saying you don’t have time to say what the issue was, man that drives me BONKERS in movies.
To be fair, I prefer that over having some crazy shit happen that could’ve been avoided if they offered an explanation (IE: Chris in the game Resident Evil 8)
"run, a psycho in da house" 3 sec top, "run, i don't have enough time to explain" 3 sec followed by 5 minutes of argument and questions. by then one of em are f'd up
My dad fell down our stairs and was unconcious. I call 911 and tell them that he hasn't woken up and they got WORRIED. That ambulance got to my house in in less than 5 minutes. When they got there and my dad still hadn't woken up, they REALLY got worried. After a minute he did wake up and they actually sighed in relief. I actually asked how long can a person be unconcious and they said that anything more than 3-5 minutes is worrying. He actually got a very small amount of brain damage due to taking longer to wake up.
biggest ick/pet peeve is when a character has a clear shot or advantage against the killer and instead of just taking the shot, they yell something stupid first like "hey asshole!" basically just announcing themselves, then missing the shot, and the killer gets away yet again 💀
my biggest ick is the unnecessary amount of naked boobs i see in horrors. overall the sexualisation of women who are fighting for their life is so weird to me, why do i need to see her tatas while she's being stabbed to death?? also using any occasion to undress the lead female character, sometimes all of that makes me want to stop watching horrors completely because instead of getting scared i just get angry
one thing that gives me the ick is when the child hates the parents and calls them by their first name than by the end of the movie they are like “i love you dad” is so over used
And honestly some kids call their parents and grandparents by their first name. My closest grandparents to me were by their first names and my dad has guys grandkids call him by their first name. I refer to my dad by his first name when taking about him to most family and not "my dad". I guess it kind of frustrates me to make it a plot point that only people who hate their family's use their name. I mean, it's their name.
I think “The Ring” did this incredibly well. He never starts calling Rachel mommy until the 2nd movie when Samara possesses him and it’s very unsettling to hear.
right? Like in Terrifier 2, she has literal hole in the wall downstairs to get away outside and she choses to go upstrairs and THEN tried to get out of the window. Girl, why????
I mentioned the movie Sick in another comment here. The protagonist runs upstairs to get away, but in this case it's because she knows there's a way to get out of the house up there. I think she might've used it to sneak out late at night when she was younger, but I can't remember. Point is it does induce an eyeroll until you realize "oh, she does know what she's doing after all".
I want a slasher movie where the main characters are smart, interesting people who keep their cool in a crisis, make smart decisions, do everything or at least most things right, and yet still struggle to survive simply because the killer is so experienced at predation that they can anticipate their prey’s every move. Bring COMPETENCE into the script on both sides and watch the audience shit their pants.
I hate the Rape & Revenge genre so much. The way the camera lingers and draws out the rape scene for the female characters is often done in a way to be titillating not horrific, which it would be depicted as if it were a man being raped. Rape also seems to be the go-to trauma for writers when they can't seem to think of a backstory dark enough for their troubled female characters.
I haven't personally experienced any revenge stories that have shot SA scenes to be a turn-on. Most of them, the girl is screaming and disheveled and being horrifically brutalized by a man or men while screaming bloody murder. Like the I Spit On Your Grave remake and the Last House On The Left remake. Perhaps I just haven't watched the movies you're talking about, but almost every scene of SA I've ever seen in Rape/Revenge trope movies are done in a very non enticing way and more in a brutal or degrading way which is how it's supposed to be done to make her revenge or another characters revenge more satisfying to the viewer because we then get to see the attackers be brutalized and degraded themselves through gory or intense scenes of prolonged agony for the antagonists. It's meant to make you angry and uncomfortable on purpose, so the gory deaths of the antags are satisfying to watch. I'm aware you could make it less graphic, but it could make the extreme gore and violence enacted feel unjustified by the audience. This is coming from someone who doesn't particularly like rape/revenge movies. One movie I think that actually did it well was the 2016 Death Wish remake. It cut the rape and the impact was still reasonably there because it focused on the attack and the mc's feeling of failure to his family, unlike Bronson's, which focused on the rape and gory revenge of the father. That being said, not all stories can do that and make the story feel just as impactful, like with ISOYG and TLHOTL.
When a family adopts a child who turns out to be not what they seemed, yet somehow the husband of the family is the only one who believes the child is completely innocent
Deeeefinitely the slicing of the palm for blood. No matter what the blood is being used for, they always slice a three inch gash across the palm and it drives me CRAZY
FR and it makes no sense bc the skin on ur palm is thick and it harder to draw blood there forearm will always make most sense plus using ur hand wont bug u after
As a medical doctor: the 30-min-knockout takes me out of the story too. Anything longer than a few seconds is a serious indication of brain injury or bleeding within the skull: you CANNOT just “walk that off”. Then again, a lot of injuries are just “walked off” in movies, which isn’t always realistic, but moves the story along. I get it, but I’d actually find it scarier to see the true lasting consequences depicted on screen too: that’s often where the real horror is. There’s only so much our bodies can take before lifealtering damage, and that’s terrifying in itself.
And as a bonus i would add the random silence just before some kind of jumpscare ESPECIALLY husband/friend suddenly showing up out of nowhere like as if the main character just got deaf for 10 seconds
Best jump scare I've seen is in Haunting Of Hillhouse where the two sisters are arguing in the front seat and right in the middle of it the ghost of the dead sister pops out of the back seat and screams. Happened while they were in mid argument and just freaked me out.
One thing that drives me crazy is when something scary happens, then cuts to the next day and everyone's OK. Like, what happened in the time between?? How did they get out of certain situations, etc...?
I like the bird jumps scare in Final Destination 2. It’s the hint to the kids death and whole reason the glass is being changed is because the birds keep breaking them. Which is what kills him
0:56 I wanna see a movie where a woman has runny or smeared makeup, a snotty/red nose and swollen eyes from crying, tangled hair, etc. These girls will be screaming and crying the whole movie and somehow their mascara hasn’t started running? Alright
Blair Witch 2016. The girl gets seriously messed up near the ending, all as you described. Actress is still very beautiful though, but you can see they did their best to make her look really messed up. And she is very smart and not annoying at all, for a change.
I HATE IT when a character acts perfectly reasonable and sane while interacting with others but the SECOND it's revealed that they are the bad guy, they turn into a caricature of evil insanity. A truly crazy person, aka someone having a psychotic break, isn't going to cunningly play sane to get away with mess. The Candyman reboot/sequel pissed me off so much for this reason. His whole demeanor changed up the second he was revealed as the bad guy and I know that if he was like that 24/7/365, no one would have gone near the clearly mentally unstable person.
Ikr. The only case where this is good is when it's clear that acting innocent is a part of their mental illness and the movie is set in a low tone where THEY are the protagonist.
In Catholic/Exorcism horror where the cute young Novitiate is always the hero. Give me a cranky, Clint Eastwood-type Mother Superior who has just had enough of everyone’s shit and won’t let her convent go down without a fight.
This isn’t a movie nor is she a Mother Superior, but Sister Andrea on the tv show “Evil” is like this. Shes the main person with any sense a lot of the time.
This same thing inspired me to play a Call of Cthulhu one-shot as a Mother Superior. She had no social skills beyond intimidation, could read four different languages outside of just English and Latin and had a resolve you could photograph. Her barking the Prayer of Michael the Archangel while riding a motorcycle through a crowd of cultists in a town in Maine was the highlight of the scenario.
When the husband doesn't believe his wife that the house is haunted,and is concesding about it.but when something paranormal happens to him he gets mad at the wife and yells at her for not telling him that the house was haunted but she tried to earlier,and he wants to leave now.
It’s either that or the husband (usually when they’re both in bed) very calmly and sincerely tells his wife he believes her and is ready to call an expert or something
One of my icks in horror movies is the "Bury your minority pal trope", just killing off the one :POC, queer, sometimes both characters just to help the main protagonist(s) to beat the villain terrorizing them. Also, characters lacking common survival skills when danger occurs such as, running away from a killer, and they trip then crawl, or the group split up.
In the new horror movie Tarot, there are two heavily implied queer characters that are probably dating, and the first one to be killed off is one of the women in the couple. AND it was the one that wasn't a famous actress.
Either that, or it’s the maniac dream pixie girl best friend/gf who was an optimist or a sunshine or whatever who dies for the protagonists development and motivation to kill the killer
My favorite horror trope is the final girl being absolutely drenched in blood. bonus points if she has an expression of madness. I also noticed the worst part about the scary naked old person trope is they’re always old women. that hasn’t gone past me.
Adding to the "30 minute knock out" line of thought- when they inject someone with tranq in the neck and they instantly go down completely unconscious for hours. I've been a psych nurse for 10 years, tranqs take at least 15-20 mins to take any effect and only sometimes makes them sleepy after a while - we WISH we had tranq's that worked that fast and effectively!
OMG yes the only drug I can think of that knocks you out like that is propofol but they also loose their airway with it and nobody ever seem to carry an ambubag to a heist
When I went under surgery the anesthesiologist injected something that worked in 10 secs. I was completely out. So maybe what they use in the movies plot, is something like that.
Most mentally ill people aren’t violent and are actually far more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators, but boy would movies have us believing the opposite :/ Shyamalan is truly on my shit list because of this
I 100% agree with you and definitely needs to be talked about it more. As a fellow horror lover I do hate how it instill fear into people with disorders and such and I even find myself sometimes judging based on their disorder as someone who also has one!
I was protected by a schizophrenic boy before as well as a guy with a split personality when somebody else in their care setting was acting out of place, and both these people were victims of abuse, yet movies have had a horrible reputation of portraying these specific disorders as being the traits of mad killers
@torytellstales just a minor suggestion- the split personality lable is no longer used and instead DID is used(Dissociative Identity Disorder). The DID community prefers this lable ❤ But yes 100% everything you said is my experience as well
For that first ick, a movie that does a good job of NOT doing that, is Gerald's Game. The female protagonist is shown how she'd ACTUALLY look throughout the situation.
S/A scenes are one of the few things in mainstream that will cause me to turn off a movie before finishing it. The issue isn't the topic itself for me, just the fact that I have to sit through that feels really wrong when I'm browsing Netflix.
Graphic cruelty to animals is a big ICK for me. It can take me right out of a movie. I stopped watching The Innocents after the scene with the cat. I wish writers would come up with some new ways to show a character is a psychopath.
While I agree somewhat, cruelty to animals is one of the main symptoms of violent psychopathy. So it's not out of the question to use it in that manner.
i cant stand when men are uncomfortable with male nudity in horror movies or give the movie a bad rating based on that. i was watching a review on in a violent nature and the first thing the (male) critic said was “WARNING- THERES FRONTAL MALE NUDITY- like, we don’t need to see that, ok?” but woman can be exploited continuously in horror?
Im curious on what you thought about “In a Violent Nature”? My family and I saw it in theatres and I found it interesting but immediately after watching it all I wanted was to hear other peoples opinions on it. The movie intrigued me, to say the least-
I did a segment on the other side of the 30 minute knockout. There's this trope of a character getting knocked out by a tranquilizer shot, and they IMMEDIATELY go out. In order for a tranquilizer to work that fast on a human, it would most likely kill the person. James Wan LOVES to do this, and the girl from Candyman 3 gets knocked out like every 15 minutes.
Dr. Mike has done WTF videos on knockouts in film. Basically, the brain damage would be seriously problematic. But in those films? The characters are a-ok? 🤣 [Oh, and I love the rants! Keep 'em coming!]
My ick is when the character sees the most disturbing thing in the hallway walk past or attack them for a second just for them to snap back to reality and somebody ask if there’s something wrong and they just say no and continue with their day till something else happens
i think my biggest one is similar to the mental illness one (and this doesn’t just apply to horror)-making the villain a child abuse victim. i don’t think abuse stories should be avoided altogether, and it IS possible for abuse victims to go down bad paths, but damn it’d be nice to see the good guy be a survivor rather than seeing “oh this guy is EVIL because he was ABUSED!!” shoehorned in for the millionth time. an honorable mention is the whole “no one believes the protagonist” thing, especially child protagonists. like yeah i get 99% of people aren’t gonna buy into something paranormal happening, but that trope has been so overplayed and is essentially in almost every horror movie ever :/
Mine is the trope in a zombie apocalypse where they risk a bunch of healthy people to go on a supply run for one person that’s infected or about to die soon. Or in horror movies while being chased or hiding from someone and it’s a very tense situation and the characters decide it’s the perfect time to stop and hug or confess their love or kiss.
I feel like it would be interesting to see maybe the healthy characters of the apocalypse movie try and ease the sick character into a peaceful death, like instead of running out to get very limited medicine and risking everything, they all try to use what they have and bring comfort. This would eliminate the very tired scenes where they run to the abandoned pharmacy or department store, something shitty happens, a couple of characters die that honestly never needed to, and then they go back and the one sick/already dying character gets to live on or die from something else entirely unrelated to their sickness
my biggest horror movie ick is when a protagonist thinks they're finally killing the killer but then it's revealed that it's an ally/their best friend/boyfriend/etc. i always roll my eyes because it's such a cheap and lazy way to try and make the audience emotional. i'm totally fine with movies that kill of the protagonist or one of the main characters, but 9 times out of 10, if they go out this way, it feels unearned.
Letting actors be ugly adds gravity and realism. It absolutely eats me UP when designers go for this heavily produced type of look. Takes us completely out of the world. The only place that works is camp. Let Actresses Look Ugly 2025.
I'm glad you mentioned SA as it's something I've realized, as I've gotten older, that I really can't stand, graphic or not. I was recently rewatching The Hills Have Eyes (2006) -- a movie I remember really enjoying when I saw it as a teenager. But after the SA scene I was feeling borderline nauseous and turned the movie off. Maybe it was the overall context that pushed it over the edge for me, people being close but not hearing the calls for help but holy shit I could NOT finish the movie after that. Also eye and fingernail stuff really icks me out
My friend loves The Devils Rejects and Three from Hell, and I can’t stand them for that exact reason. Like the way they go the extra mile to allude graphic SA done at the hands of the protagonists is nauseating.
It’s always the little girl in the little lace dress with the broken doll or the rotting stuffed animal going “he’s my best friend 🥺 he just wants to play 🥺” and mean while the doll or toy looks like this- “👹👺😈”
I don't know if this has been pointed out before, but I feel like certain aspects of the "creepy little kid" trope are just a modern version of the Changeling myth in the sense that it's demonizing traits that are often associated with neurodivergence. The fact that the kid simply being quiet, not smiling often, not playing with other kids much, etc. are all framed as "red flags" has some pretty mean-spirited implications. Also, it REALLY doesn't help that these sorts of child characters are seemingly always written to be as unlikeable and irredeemable as humanly possible, even when the audience is expected to feel sorry for them.
I think it would be so cool if, there’s a dream sequence in a movie, but what happens in the dream happens for real, and the main character is in denial constantly saying “it’s just a dream” and the killer says to them “you’re not dreaming anymore” that would be so cool to see as a twist.
I hate it when characters get badly injured and then five seconds later they continue running like everything’s absolutely fine. I’m fairly sure in most of those situations either it would be too painful to stand/move and/or your body would go into shock and your cognition would not be great.
"bUt ADrENALinE-" I'm with you. I'm more on the edge of my seat watching someone desperately limping away from a threat than running with perfect form after having a bullet or knife through their leg. It feels more like a 50/50 chance if they're gonna make it and thats the suspence I want when watching a chase scene.
I can't believe I had to scroll for 5 minutes to find this!! It's annoying when characters get shot or stabbed but they just carry on running and fighting like nothing happened 🤦🏻
Characters who are lucky enough to manage knocking the weapon out of the killer's hand and they just... leave it there? If you don't loot that body and haul ass-
My icks: When the partner/friend or whatever doesn’t believe you and think you must be “just seeing things” until the plot needs them to believe you; People doing the dumbest shit just to move forward the plot; Unnecessary sex scenes;
I feel like sex scenes are unnecessary in media in general most of the time, especially graphic ones. Like you can just imply characters are hooking up, we don’t need to actually see it. Unless it relates to the plot on some way, they just feel weird to me, especially given that many actors/actresses often come forward about how uncomfortable they are to film.
For the first one, isn't that a realistic reaction though? Even if it comes from a partner or friend, if they say they saw some weird creature or supernatural thing, I doubt most people would believe them.
I definitely have an ick for SA. I also don't really like incest like in IT. i understand these things are scary but i came here to be scared by a ghoulie not for a hard slap of reality. Also, I find it funny that you dislike the synced-to-music trailers because when i was taking motion design that was like, the number one thing we learned. We even had the sound waves pulled up to make sure it was syncing exactly.
That's my exact problem - real world horror should be different from movie horror. I enjoy slasher movies, which sure could technically happen in real life, but it's a much less present fear in my daily life than SA is, so I don't really need movies to remind me how scary it is
@@rebeccadodd1394i respectfully absolutely disagree. i love horror precisely because it covers real world topics that need to be discussed and that every other genre would rather brush under the rug. ofc it can often be exploitative, but when it’s done right (which it also often is - horror as a genre has historically always been interested in exploring trauma), it’s far better to discuss these issues through art than to just pretend they never happen
though i should clarify as much as it’s cathartic and liberating for me to see these subjects confronted head-on, i do firmly believe that the actual act of abuse or violence never needs to be physically shown. but horror being one of the most visually creative genres often employs very innovative yet effective ways of implying the violence rather than showing it edit: i stupidly wrote this comment before i finished the video but sarah basically articulates exactly what i’m saying here lol
@@rebeccadodd1394I think that’s completely fair, I think there’s nothing wrong if you hate that happening in movies. But it just annoys me when people criticize filmmakers for doing it, and treating artists like monsters for including it. In my opinion there’s nothing that can’t be touched on in movies especially horror. It’s up to the viewer what they what to watch. But also I can respect the hate for unnecessary sa, opposed to just saying it shouldn’t be filmed at all for any reason which a lot of people say
@@rebeccadodd1394I hear ya. I’ve been in combat and now am a therapist. I personally don’t need high art / real world horror, i just like old school horror. I don’t watch as much new stuff due to this, tho the original Evil Dead did have the tree scene. But most days I hear SA from men and women or just trauma in general. I just want some Jason and Crystal lake shenanigans 😂 and turn my brain off. The true horror is at work for me I guess. BUT I get to see people overcome these things most of the time and hear to go kick ass in the world, just wanted to end with that and not be a downer!
I also agree with how women can’t not look pretty and it’s SO BAD in action movies where her male counterparts will literally be beaten and bloody with black eyes and she just gets a teeny cheek scratch
Thank you so much for talking about sa being used for shock value. As a victim of sa (including csa) I am all for depicting horrific things but there's a line that definitely needs to be drawn. Using it as exploitation fodder is not okay. Horror doesn't need to depict scenes like that in graphic detail or have them take up a good chunk of runtime (looking at you, Last House on the Left remake). It's not hard to have the assaults be more suggestive and/or have the really bad bits happen off-screen. If you can't figure out how to tone it down for audiences you have no business putting it in a movie.
Yeah, there's "This happened and we need you to understand something about the event for story reasons" and "Haha I bet THAT shocked you, huh? Are you disturbed? I'm *such* a dark filmmaker."
I actually agree with many of your's: women being too pretty, graphic rape, scary old people. Another one of mine is using racial trauma in a way that feels exploitative (Them, Antebellum, probably others). Movies that do tend to not have the feel of Jordan Peele movies or other great Black horror, where race/racism is a tool or element in the story, and not the source of horror altogether.
I absolutely refuse to watch Them. I started the first season and didn’t like the initial vibes just seeming mean spirited. So I read spoilers to see if it was worth continuing and after finding out how much the Black family was brutalized, I immediately stopped it.
@@lainadelpay Yesss, the show felt downright evil. I watched the whole thing and It just left a bad taste in my mouth. There wasn’t really any great morals and was so overly violent I just don’t know how I feel about it tbh…
theres something to say about horror using specifically old WOMEN in horror, frequently. ageing in women is scary and ugly, women are supposed to stay young forever, in hollywoods eyes.
The one I hate is when a gunshot is only audible to characters that are in that room. Like somewhere else in the same house they're oblivious (The Purge does this for instance). Also, silencers making gunshots nearly silent rather than still loud but not deafening. Guns are *deafeningly* loud, if someone fires a gun everybody in the area should instantly know about it.
12:05 YES!!! as someone who's wanted to be a doctor for most her life it's infuriating. people usually wake up after a few seconds, once it gets to be closer to a minute you're looking at possible brain damage. a minute or two and you might be vegetated. anything after that and you are just flat out dead or you're in a coma
I didn't watch Emma's video, so idk if she touched on this. But a HUGE ick for me is the "place is cursed because it was built on a Native American burial ground" trope. You mentioned The Taking of Deborah Logan as an example for the "old people" trope ick, but that movie is one of the ones applicable to the "Native American burial ground" trope as well. As an Indigenous person, it's just so stupid and a huge eye-roll every single time that becomes the...conclusion? lol
Yes! A film set in the Catacombs would make sense because it’s literally BUILT WITH SKELETONS AND IS SOMEHOW A TOURIST DESTINATION IN FRANCE! You guys get so much hate for your burial grounds which I think look nice (not fetishing, I just like burial grounds from cultures like Vikings to Southern Africa to America) WHYYYYYYY DOES THERE HAVE TO BE A BURIAL GROUND TO MAKE SOMETHING CREEPY? Also, make horror movies take place during different times of the day rather than NIGHT.
Same! If it's not the "native American burial ground" trope, then there will be the "wise native American who warns the others" trope. There'll be this stereotypically dressed wise man/woman who will stop the protagonist/a person who's going to die soon, and say "do not go there! I SAID DO NOT GO THERE!" I'm from India and here also this trope is used. Just replace native Americans with tribal people, Swamis (who are like Hindu saints) or hermits lol. It's so overused that it becomes funny to me 😂
I once saw a woman in a series cry and THE MASCARA GOT SMUDGED and it remained smudged for one more scene, just a bit less runny. I was in disbelief until I saw that the director was a woman and I was like "ah, she knows!" 😆
Honestly trailers are soooo done. I mean they either show too much and usually show the best moments of the movie or they completely change the movie's plot/ tone/ genre and then audiences feel betrayed
I hated how in the trailers for the Blumhouse film "Imaginary", they only play the first few lyrics of a song simply because it has the word "imaginary" in it.... It's lazy and uncreative.
One thing I've grown to despise is a movie where it's just a woman going through a kidnapping/stalking/abuse/generally terrible real-life situation and is basically fighting for their life and nearly helpless for 2/3 of the movie, like that happens in real life and appears in the news already. Give us a female power fantasy, a fem slasher, or something else, please cuz at this point it just feels like trauma c0rn.
-hiding under the bed from the killer -characters having sex at the most inconvenient times -calling out “who’s there?” Because you are NOT going to like the answer -people shooting guns with no ear protection and having their eardrums be perfectly fine afterwards -girls act “emotional” while the guys are unaffected and take charge -catering to the male fantasy instead of keeping the character personalities realistic -making you hate a character so when they die first you don’t care -having adults play children -having underage characters have sex on camera -Having the main antagonist excused for their past actions because they “changed”. *ahem, sequel, cough cough.*
it makes no sense to me because in jennifers body, which the whole thing is she needs to eat people (or boys) to rejuvenate herself to look beautiful again and they still let her get dirty and disgusting, as much as megan fox even can
My main ick, you kinda mention it, but because 80% of horror movies rely on this, it's using loud sounds to fake jumpcares because the movie can't scare you otherwise. It's why I fell in love with It Follows, because it scares you without quick scenes, withoutvloud noises it's slow, and that works, it's clever. Jumpscares are cheap, you're not scared of the movie, the sounds just literally hurt. The dream or fake/out scenes are the worst, it just shows a movie or show is afraid to actually go somewhere, it always feels like I'm wasting my time. "The 8 Show" on Netflix was a great series, but did this 3 or 4 times I was getting mad at it, haha! Saw 3D did the legacy character thing, and I hated it so much, they did it because fans were begging for it, but it was stupid as hell and made no sense.
100% with you on the jump scares. Fake (and real) jumpscares is honestly one of the only reasons I don't watch horror movies as much as I'd like. Like if you can't make a good horror movie or can't set the right ambience without faking a jumpscare, should you even be making a horror movie. I too loved It Follows because of this, and I also love loads of Jordan Peele movies because I don't think he uses that many faked jumpscares.
I totally agree with both. I generally dislike jump scares in horror, just as a rule, because, to me, probably 95% of jump scares are just lazy filmmaking. You can't figure out how to make your movie actually scary (or tense, or creepy, or disturbing, etc), so you're going to resort to startling your audience instead? Not the same thing as scary. However, I would even expand on the "fake jumpscares" thing and include Sarah's "bird jumpscare" along with it, and just say that ALL kinds of fake jumpscares need to stop. For example, the "oh, it's just a bird" jumpscare, the "oh, it's just a cat" jumpscare, or the "oh, it's just your friend tapping you on the shoulder suddenly" jumpscare. Those are so ick, and so much worse than even the "monster is right behind you" jumpscares, which at least make sense in a lazy horror kind of way.
@@nethergoth that’s why it’s one of the better jumpscares. The jump comes from the visuals rather than just a startling noise. (The tall guy in the hallway)
Love this video idea! I always have some icks for various things in movies and some things I just genuinely hate: * Not double tapping * Going upstairs when running away * Unnecessary nudity * Women being portrayed as idiots * The car not starting for some random unexplained reason * Also not locking the car door when you get in it * Phones being left on silent so people asking for help dont get answered * People being highly trained in using guns but cannot land a single shot on the villain depite them only walking away (????) * A massive one is people's inability to hear other people being attacked in their house?? Like how tf are you both in the same house and you cant hear them being smashed through a bookshelf??? A big no for me is animal cruelty or animal murders that add nothing to the plot whatsoever. Theres definitely more but these are the ones that stand out to me 😊
The only thing I can think of that I can't stand in horror is when someone hears a noise and their first instinct is to say "hello?" and/or walk towards the sound. Also running upstairs instead of out of the house.
My biggest ick for horror movies (and sometimes movies in general) is children being put in perilous situations that they can't (or don't) escape from. Anything with kids getting hurt, maimed, SA'd, unalived, etc. makes me so deeply uncomfortable.
Doctor Sleep was almost ruined for me because of this. They couldn't just imply or do the murder of the baseball boy off-screen... the villains literally tortured him and enjoyed it before ending him. Ugh.
A couple of my hicks. Someone tripping while running from a killer or monster because they're looking behind. Someone hiding from a killer and monster and breathing or sobbing super hard wile holding their hand on their mouth. Cellphones with no signal, no charge or forgotten in the car.
to be honest to the breathing too hard could say some ways it could be sort of excused. one is obviously the absolute fear the person in likely also raises the heart rate quite a bi and raises need for oxygen quite a bit. plus also what many ppl tend to do when they need to be quiet in hiding is to hold their breath which results in them sooner or later gasping for air cause the body tries to still keep itself alive and notices lack of oxygen
Breathing heavily and making noise is actually very realistic. Put yourself in an adrenaline filled situation, doesn't even have to be life and death, and you won't realise the weird ass sounds you make until you pay attention to them.
For the longest time I always hated when horror movies used those scenes where the character closes the bathroom mirror and there's someone behind them, but now I feel like they will still use that, but not have someone behind so they trick us.
omg yes!! i alaways get nervous when a character closes a bathroom mirror, a fridge or a door. all of it makes me so scared and lately nothing ever happens. it drives me insane
I hate when people hide things from the other main characters in horror for no reason. It’s bad in any drama really, but in horror it can lead to characters actually getting killed
It makes sense if there is a reason. Like the others not being safe people to be around, or having a reasonable grudge. But not telling just like that doesn't make sense.
My ick is when writers/directors try to create suspense or hide who the killer is but use all the same troupes as other movies so you can figure it out based on the title scene, highest paid actor, the character they give a close-up to after a body is found, etc.
I actually LOVE when movie trailers are edited to the beat of the music 😭 but *not* when it’s the entire trailer, like only a scene or two 🤌🏻 Something I really hate is when horror trailers show too much or EVERYTHING. I love when they just show simple, small glimpses into a single scene, or two, and it makes me want to know more.
Three off the top of my head: 1. A friend/family group not believing each other when someone saw something. 2. Graphic depictions of animal gore. 3. Those dang crow jump scares. Like the slow crawl of a tension build into an inevitable jump scare. Then the friggin crow caws and explodes our eardrums
Even worse for number 1: when MULTIPLE people see the same thing and they brush it off. Like what? Sure, if one person thought they saw a face in the window, you might dismiss them as being paranoid or it was a trick of the light. But when multiple people see the same thing... why would you not take that seriously.
When there’s a hospital scene and there’s no lighting… like has anyone ever been in a hospital?? The blinding fluorescent lights and constant noise is part of the experience. Also along with mental illness, people with cognitive disabilities. Also teen/college friend group where everyone actually hates each other?? Like that shit is so annoying
I'm so glad you threw in examples of trailers being edited to the music cuz I had no clue what you were talking about. I guess I never paid attention. But I see it now. 😆
you covered a lot of good ones! i love listening to your rants, personally. the whole SA one is always the one that ruins a movie for me the most. horror or not, graphic SA makes me feel so sick. huge ick for me is definitely any sort of incorrect gun use? like when a character is using a shotgun and they cock it simply for the theatrics and sound, when in reality there was most likely bullet in the chamber? or endless ammo too. it happens in a lot in other genres as well. OH and also when anyone is being strangled and theyre instantly dead? because it takes a LONG time to kill someone by strangulation.
I've never noticed the editing of trailers to music but wow, that Hereditary one almost gave me a heart attack rn lmao, like can we calm down a little bit with the sensory overload 😭💀
2:25 in Countdown when she’s fighting the reaper or whatever, her hair is messed up and wet and then when it cuts it’s suddenly blow dried and perfect☠️ it’s like they didn’t even try to make it subtle
That’s why they include the athletic jock who’s a risk taking hot headed adrenaline junkie so that he can be killed off by being overconfident and doing something risky like touching the monster
The fight where someone drops a weapon and they both... DESPERATELY try to crawl towards it and grab it needs to f'n die too. I don't ever want to see that in a movie again.
THANK YOU for mentioning mental health here! I have DID and as a horror fan, I appreciate how the genre is pretty much the only one that has any DID representation BUT I get fed up of it being displayed as aggressive and/or becoming the big plot twist. Split will always be uncomfortable for me! Love your videos ❤
I know one random person on the internet isn't going to help much but when I think of DID, I think of people who have their shit together way better than I do lmao. I met someone (or rather a group of people, I think? Not sure what's the right terminology in this case) in a mental facility who I suspect had DID but I was scared to ask and since everyone went along with the personality changes, so did I. I was slightly intimidated by them at first but I was put in a room with her and we ended up bonding so hard. I really regret not staying in touch and still think of them from time to time. I have watched several documentaries on DID since and most of those who have it seem well adjusted and know how to take care of themselves. Minus when extreme triggers occur but that throws everyone for a loop honestly. People who jugde everyone based on their diagnosis + bad media rep alone are biggoted assholes.
When women are the sole target or violence & it's not examined at all. I hated Terrifier for this reason. Men died in the movie but the women were targeted with extreme prejudice and given prolonged on-screen mutilation deaths which usually specifically targeted their sexual parts and mocked the feminine archetype they represented. And this was never addressed, it was just exploited.
This is another one of those things not exclusive to horror but you know what kind of scene bugs me for no reason? When characters go to a restaurant for some kind of meeting and order something, then end up leaving before the food gets there or just leaving the plate (two examples off the top of my head are the diner scene in Stranger Things 4 and one scene in Nimona). It’s a totally inconsequential thing, yes, but part of me is like “why did you bother ordering at all??? Get a box at least…”
When the characters get a chance to actually KILL the murderer but they just knock them out instead and run. Like they are going to wake up and still go after you....? I could never understand the reasoning behind that choice.
Always double tap dammit!
this was why I respected the Black Phone so much! Five minutes into the movie, when the kid sat on the bully and kept punching him, they established that this was a story where when someone goes down, you make sure they don't get back up.
To be fair, sometimes the villain waits for an opportunity for someone to get close and go in for the kill so they can get back up and lunge at them
The movie Sick from last year had a couple good subversions of this trope (which I also can't stand). About halfway through the movie the protagonist gets the antagonist down on the floor and proceeds to whack him in the head with a metal pot or something, I can't remember what. But once she starts she does not stop until she knows the guy is dead. Not only was it refreshing to see but it also makes you wonder ok, the bad guy is dead right? Where's the movie gonna go now? In another scene the same character hits someone with an oar in self-defense. She does toss it aside and runs, but in that case I can forgive her because I don't think an oar would be a very effective weapon to wield anyway.
Reading this comment immediately made me think of Scream 2 when Sidney CLIMBS OVER Ghostface instead of pulling his mask off. Great movie, but that part drives me mad.
My biggest ick in a horror movie is when they have an entire hospital and it seems to have only one patient. And is also completely lacking doctors and nurses.
the patient thing for sure. but in the US at least, there’s actually usually a severe lack of proper hospital staffing. like only 2 nurses on each floor sometimes
Well the REAL horror is often hospitals are short staffed… ☹️
And the hospital is always dark 🤣
To be fair, we are facing a global staff shortage on doctors and nurses. There aren't enough health practitioners on this planet to accommodate the influx of patients that come in, so that part is realistic and I don't mind it too much to see it represented in films.
@@rileysjonger4192 I agree. That should mean that there would be more than one patient in the floor.
Biggest ick for me is people not calling 911 when they don’t have service. You can still call 911
I think this depends. 911 calls go to the nearest cell tower regardless of which service provider you use, so if you’re out of range from your own service provider then the 911 call can still go through another provider. But if you’re completely out of range of all cell towers then you won’t be able to call. So it’s not always unrealistic.
watch Fall
And they never even try. Like even if there's no service I feel like most people would try it at least once
Most people don't know that though
And you can text 911 in a lot of areas. Why not send a text so it will go through if you can even a little bit of signal
- innocent child draws their "imaginary friend" thats a cheesy spooky shadow demon
- dropping the weapon instead of taking it with you
- house obviously being haunted/dangerous but main characters choose to stay for zero reason, despite having full control to
- naked, barely-legal girl getting killed or jumped in the shower
- sequels randomly being set in space?? like why was there a leprechaun movie but in space im so dead ☠
When the family moves into a new house and they find graphic "found footage" in cassettes... but decided not to get the police involved..??
jason x too ugh
You should watch A Haunted House if you hate the house being haunted but the characters don’t move. It’s a little scary with a dash of comedy.
Leprechaun in space is peak
@@verronniica Jason X was fun. Plus the Friday the 13th movies were always kind of enjoyably trashy in a way. At least that’s how I viewed them so setting it in space isn’t really too far fetched in my opinion.
• When the female lead will gradually lose clothing throughout the movie.
• When people don’t do a ‘double tap’ on the villain. Like make sure they are dead and definitely not going to come after you again!
The only movie that did the “gradually lose clothing” thing correctly was Ready Or Not.
nice zombieland reference
@@miticaBEP07 REALLLLL
@@miticaBEP07 Yes! It makes sense in that movie, she's in a goddamn wedding dress and she's on the run. She initially cuts off the bottom of the dress (to tea length, not a mini-skirt) so she can move better, and later she tears off a sleeve to bandage her wound. None of the modifications to her dress give the impression they were being done for the male gaze, just practicality and some wear-and tear that's realistic for the situation. It's worth noting as well, that even at the end of the film when Grace is at her most torn up, the high neckline of her dress remains intact.
@@miticaBEP07 She didn't really lose much clothing, it just got ripped.
I like how in Ready Or Not Grace looks like a mess by the end of the film.
The way she's seen sitting on the steps covered in blood with matted hair is kind of refreshing.
Yes exactly!!
I loved that as well! Such a great shot!
It’s so good!! What films skip this tho? I can’t think of a title that totally removes this detail of the hero being bloody and dirty
Radio Silence is EXCELLENT at this! Final girls always look Bloody Disgusting (teehee) at the end of their movies, as they should 😂
The French movie frontier(s) does this extremely well.. in the end of the movie the lead actress looks a total mess.. covered in blood and dirt, shaking.. hair cut off .. she is gorgeous but looks a mess at the end as she should
The car not starting … doesn’t seem to matter if the car is new or old 😂 they always struggle with that
Like in ratatouille
That's not just in horror though, that's in any genre with a chase scene lol
@@hvbg yes you are correct ✅ lol
@@Tugar_Dumkin I’ve never seen that movie lol
and it always starts only when the monster or killer is inches away from the car
I'm SO ready for a horror movie with a old person as the protagonist.
Yes, why is it almost always a teenager?
That's the only thing I didn't like about the "Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark" movie. I didn't want to follow just a group of teenagers. I wanted to follow different stories from various age groups.
@@As-jj2rcold people usually cant outrun a killer
that would be a fresh take
@@Nan-bara Ghost. Curse. Witch. Slow zombies. Body horror. Old god. Cult. Demon. Ovni. Whatever.
killing/hurting animals for shock value, the husband not believing his wife, character makes a really stupid decision that no human alive would ever make, “let’s split up” is this fucking scooby doo?, the lighting being so god damn dark i can’t see shit, just being overall confusing for no reason, plots based on s**cide. i could go on
This this this!
I just watched the first Texas chainsaw movie and the scene where Sally and Franklin are at the car drives me crazy. I know they eventually find out they don’t have the car keys but sally is fully like “it’s pitch black outside and 3 of our friends have gone missing. Why don’t I go look for them and leave my friend who is in a wheelchair alone even though we could drive to a nearby gas station.”
That one wasn’t even reasonable and it just made me angry haha
@@cez_is_typingYou can chalk up the stupid character decisions of that film to be intentional. The creator has stated various time he intended to make the characters a parody of American youth, and actually wanted the film to be rated PG since he viewed it as a comedy (no, like seriously).
YES to all of these!
heavy on the lighting. how am I supposed to be scared if I don’t know what I’m supposed to be scared at?
My “icks” would be
1. People see something obviously traumatizing but then go on acting like it didn’t happen. (Usually in haunted house/posession movies)
2. In zombie movies everyone seems to be perfect at getting headshots like they turn into John wick.
3. The bad guy has no problem killing tons of people and is super strong but once they get to the main characters they become incompetent and weak.
These are all good, but I really agree with that third one. I as it the Hunted with benecio del toro takes out literally everyone and then struggles to fight Tommy Lee jones. Like what? At least give him a pre-fight injury like the gladiator
Yes on the first one! I'm rewatching the Saw series right now, and I can't believe how many times a victim in the games will witness the most brutal death and gore happen in front of them, then they're back to cracking quips and sarcastic jokes.
One thing I hate is when the trailer to a movie will show scenes that are not in the actual movie. What is that about?
In comedies it is alternate takes. The MCU hides plot points by deliberately showing things that don't happen. Trailer houses sometimes start on a trailer before the final edit, so they can sometimes use stuff that gets cut.
@DaydreamAllday
Usually it happens because the trailer is edited by a team (sometimes a different studio/trailer house) to the people who are making the final film. They have been given a limited amount of footage to work with because the film is unfinished, so they don't know what scenes will be included and what won't. For an example of what happens when a trailer house edits a whole film, watch Suicide Squad (2016). The trailer looks amazing. The film is an editing nightmare. See also Folding Ideas video on the subject.
YES like is it a deleted scene or what
Black Christmas 2006 did this and it really made me bad because I went to the movie for that scene in particular only to find out it was for the trailer. Like the DVD didn't even have it as a deleted scene
None of the scenes from the Ouija (2014) trailer made it to the final cut of the film because Universal reshot almost the whole film right before its release. :(
My wife and I regularly complain about the trope of "gaslighting the lead female protagonist," where she's going through some stuff, and every single person- including loved ones, try to make her think she's crazy instead of making any effort whatsoever to help her or understand what she's experiencing. I get the isolation that comes from that is part of the horror- but it's old, tired, uncreative, and wayyy too common!
I thought it was so refreshing in Malignant when Sydney believed Madison about her visions right away 😭
I actually think it’s fairly effective to have a couple, especially male characters doing that. It’s annoying and wrong but it’s accurate, men mitigate and ignore women’s struggles a lot. It’s definitely overused and certainly isn’t always meant to reflect this but it can be effective.
@@Higongeous That's true! It was pretty effective in Watcher (the one starring Maika Monroe). It worked because there was a greater sense of paranoia surrounding her character, especially in that context
Definitely not to reduce Kindred bc it is so much more than just this, but Kindred (book and show) does a great job of NOT doing this and in a very satisfying realistic way. It’s amazing sci-fi horror from the late 70s early 80s
The Orphan and how fucking stupid the husband was I swear.
The only exception is pretty much the Invincible Man where the entire point there is that her ex is an abusive gaslighter who makes her seem crazy to everyone, even her friends, as a way to bring her back to him or make her pay for leaving him.
That or they actually have a reasonable excuse as to why the people and especially the significant other think she’s crazy.
I would argue that the 'woman cannot be monstrous' trope has existed for as long as horror movies have. The earliest example I can think of is the Bride of Frankenstein. The monster can look horrendous but his female counterpart.. nah she needs to be attractive. Can't have the female monsters be y'know monstrous, God forbid. 🙄🙄
If you have an issue with that, then blame men. They won't want to see a movie with ugly or even average women. Hence this is what we get. A more extreme example is moral majority guys who squeal about how awful strip clubs are. Well, they wouldn't be a thing if your gender wasn't lining up for it.
Really makes me think of that one time on that Syfy show ‘Face Off’ when the female judge criticized one of the contestants for not making their female monster character attractive enough 🙄 it was so annoying
And if they are "monsterous" they're usually overweight :'')) love that for my fellow plus sized girlies
Reminds me of a joke innThe Misadventures of Flapjack
Knuckles tells Flapjack "Its time you learn the difference between a man and a woman. A man is not a man unless hes ugly, a woman is not a woman unless shes pretty" or something like that
You know when men say hear me out and it's just an average looking woman? And when women say hear me out it's the ghoul from fallout or some shit. Like some actual class. Can't stand when men design monstrous female characters
Biggest ick is when a friend group is introduced & we could tell whose gonna survive. Its always the silent quirky one.
One of my icks are how everyone has the ability and the means to shave legs and armpits in dystopian futures. Like they can be starving for food, but they are always shaved, and I can't imagine that ever being a priority compared to food, shelter and protection.
In a similar vein, it bothers me a lot that (in particular teenage) characters in apocalyptic/dystopian settings are never portrayed as getting any acne. I mean, it bothers me that there's little to no casual portrayal of acne in teenage characters anyway (it's only really ever used to demonstrate a characters undesirability when irl it's rarer find a teenager who wouldn't at least have a pimple or two)- but in an apocalypse? Nobody's gonna be keeping up their skincare routines.
@@omniscient.nescience the hunger games at least gave some explanation for that stuff, at least in the books. They would give the older male tributes some kind of hormone to keep their facial hair from growing or something along those lines
@@gemstone108I mean, they definitely had more emphasis on beauty for a reason in that book bc it was a reality shows. The Hunger Games was like Survivor but killing people off instead of voting them off, but like, it was all televised is my point. The book is kind of meant to be a deconstruction of reality show tropes and societal beauty standards and classicism. So anything that seems “off” is actually part of the point. They put makeup on Katniss or whatever to boost ratings. It’s part of the whole point of the thing, not something to just be looked at as “normal” or “natural”. The whole thing is unnatural and like, that’s the point.
Digging a hole takes a ton of time and effort. I laugh whenever I see someone digging a hole with a shovel and all of a sudden it's big enough for a casket.
Oh, and if they have to dig a grave they not only do it quickly, but its perfectly rectangular.
I used to think that as well but then I learned that in certain parts of the world the soil can be pretty loose and soft, so it is possible I guess.
@@theblackflame4002lol me asking "where's the backhoe?" whenever I see it in a movie or tv show
@Bree_999 lol yes! I was going to add "with a tiny little folding shovel or rock" 😂 so... how?
I liked "antrum" because the whole story is about digging a hole, and it takes time and progresses slowly
Along with the bird jump scares, can we stop the screeching cat jump scares. Cats don't actually screech when they run by 🤨
exactly. my cousin's gf's cat can jumpscare me, but not because she's loud, but because she's really quiet and then suddenly jumps on our table 😂😂 silly kitty
Community made fun of this so well in the Epidemiology episode 😂 “IS SOMEONE THROWING IT?!”
My Black cat jumps on me when I'm sleeping and goes MAWWWWWWW.
But I think that's more unrealistic than it is common lol
I agree! But I gotta say Friday 13th(part 2) has the GREATEST kitty jump scare 🤭. I’m sure it gets a “legacy pass”.
Unless you pissed it off. But that’s so infrequent.
One of my biggest horror movie icks, which I see a lot in other media too, is when they needed some kind of “ominous” symbol to be carved into a tree or a wall or even a body so they just google pagan symbols and choose one they think looks spooky enough.
They’ll be like “the symbol carved into the victims back is the sign of an ancient Celtic deity who demanded blood sacrifices every Tuesday” and meanwhile in real life the symbol would just mean like… “good harvest” or something.
Honestly I feel like this just stems from Christianity demonizing paganism. I mean Christianity is always seen as the saving forces in a lot of these horror movies while paganism is given a bad wrap time and time again
@@altalt479 lol that's so true. There are barely any (horror) movies where Christianity or similar faith is the bad guy. That's why I liked outlast 2. I just want some christian horror cult and not satanic for once.
Stop using the word ick
@@Vhs.dreams hmmm let me think about that……… nah I think I’ll say what I want thanks.
This honestly. I really only know one pagan/ also wiccan symbol but it’s the pentacle that get misused the most I feel because it is so similar to the satan/occult symbol of the pentagram but I can’t take anything seriously when it’s very clearly the wrong star thing-
Imagine if they used multiple personality disorder in a horror movie but on the main character instead of the killer, like imagine a character with two personalities, and one of them witnessed something horrible and they run away very far (like in anothe country) before going silent, and now the other persona has to figure out what they saw
Moon knight almost does exactly that just in a superhero show not a horror movie. Weird
@@lexsellsmerch3512that’s true! Moon Knight was fantastic!! Such an underrated show imo
@@AlexandraAbrams-hk6ku yeah I thought it was pretty fun!
my biggest horror movie ick is when the the scariest parts of the film are almost entirely black like why can’t i see 75-90% of the film why am i squinting at the screen?
The one thing I cannot stand in horror movies is, why does it have to be so dark? it’s probably a good scene, but I can’t see what’s happening or why there is suspenseful music that’s playing, or if someone is dying!
And what’s up with the mumbling dialog? The screen is already so dark you can’t even see anything, now you can’t understand anything either unless you have the subtitles on.
I just watched Exorcist believer and 75% of the movie I couldn't see what was going on because it was so dark. Hated it.
@@mikeappleget482 Then you have to lean in and focus super hard, and that's when they decide to jumpscare you 😐
I LOVE going to the drive-in , but it’s SO hard to see in much horror.🫤
That's why I found midsommar so refreshing. They should do more horror in broad daylight
Mine is in horror and all movies honestly, it’s the “we don’t have enough time I’ll tell you later” like NO YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME, you could have said what the issue was INSTEAD of saying you don’t have time to say what the issue was, man that drives me BONKERS in movies.
To be fair, I prefer that over having some crazy shit happen that could’ve been avoided if they offered an explanation
(IE: Chris in the game Resident Evil 8)
@@SOBEKCrocodileGod I'd argue they are two sides of the same coin, that drives me nuts too
There's an infamous line in the first Destiny game. "I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to explain."
@@spikednutmeg LOL that’s good
"run, a psycho in da house" 3 sec top, "run, i don't have enough time to explain" 3 sec followed by 5 minutes of argument and questions. by then one of em are f'd up
My dad fell down our stairs and was unconcious. I call 911 and tell them that he hasn't woken up and they got WORRIED. That ambulance got to my house in in less than 5 minutes. When they got there and my dad still hadn't woken up, they REALLY got worried. After a minute he did wake up and they actually sighed in relief. I actually asked how long can a person be unconcious and they said that anything more than 3-5 minutes is worrying. He actually got a very small amount of brain damage due to taking longer to wake up.
thank you for validating this point!!!! can’t believe how little these writers do their research
thank god ur dad is fine I can't imagine how scared u was
biggest ick/pet peeve is when a character has a clear shot or advantage against the killer and instead of just taking the shot, they yell something stupid first like "hey asshole!" basically just announcing themselves, then missing the shot, and the killer gets away yet again 💀
my biggest ick is the unnecessary amount of naked boobs i see in horrors. overall the sexualisation of women who are fighting for their life is so weird to me, why do i need to see her tatas while she's being stabbed to death?? also using any occasion to undress the lead female character, sometimes all of that makes me want to stop watching horrors completely because instead of getting scared i just get angry
This
Prudish much?
I have no words to describe how angry I get at this trope. It's incredibly disgusting that we are OK with this.
one thing that gives me the ick is when the child hates the parents and calls them by their first name than by the end of the movie they are like “i love you dad” is so over used
This reminded me of the movie Damsel where Millie's character is always like "stepmother this, stepmother that" like girl we get it xd
And honestly some kids call their parents and grandparents by their first name. My closest grandparents to me were by their first names and my dad has guys grandkids call him by their first name. I refer to my dad by his first name when taking about him to most family and not "my dad". I guess it kind of frustrates me to make it a plot point that only people who hate their family's use their name. I mean, it's their name.
I think “The Ring” did this incredibly well. He never starts calling Rachel mommy until the 2nd movie when Samara possesses him and it’s very unsettling to hear.
Lol 😆
guess which child's "i love you dad" was genuine though? heather mason hehe
RUNNING UPSTAIRS TO GET AWAY!
Every time a character does it I eyeroll. Wth is going to a more enclosed area going to do to help??
right? Like in Terrifier 2, she has literal hole in the wall downstairs to get away outside and she choses to go upstrairs and THEN tried to get out of the window. Girl, why????
I always find myself hoping they are going for a gun to no avail
I mentioned the movie Sick in another comment here. The protagonist runs upstairs to get away, but in this case it's because she knows there's a way to get out of the house up there. I think she might've used it to sneak out late at night when she was younger, but I can't remember. Point is it does induce an eyeroll until you realize "oh, she does know what she's doing after all".
Scream was making fun of this in the 90s, why are films still doing this???
or jogging instead of running.they make it really hard to empathize with dumbass characters😂
I want a slasher movie where the main characters are smart, interesting people who keep their cool in a crisis, make smart decisions, do everything or at least most things right, and yet still struggle to survive simply because the killer is so experienced at predation that they can anticipate their prey’s every move. Bring COMPETENCE into the script on both sides and watch the audience shit their pants.
Not a slasher, but Run does this pretty well.
i saw it a long time ago but hush gave me that vibe
you're next is a good example of a smart and competent main character
@@Demonnafire Thanks for the recommendation, I haven’t seen that one. Will check it out later!
"Get out" does this really well 9and it is very enjoyable and very satisfying to watch)
I hate the Rape & Revenge genre so much. The way the camera lingers and draws out the rape scene for the female characters is often done in a way to be titillating not horrific, which it would be depicted as if it were a man being raped. Rape also seems to be the go-to trauma for writers when they can't seem to think of a backstory dark enough for their troubled female characters.
Would you rather rape not be mentioned, or would you rather rape seem less graphic?
I'm starting to think that they just want an excuse to use em
I'm starting to think the directors wanna film snuff but they don't wanna go to jail so they just film faux snuff
I haven't personally experienced any revenge stories that have shot SA scenes to be a turn-on. Most of them, the girl is screaming and disheveled and being horrifically brutalized by a man or men while screaming bloody murder. Like the I Spit On Your Grave remake and the Last House On The Left remake. Perhaps I just haven't watched the movies you're talking about, but almost every scene of SA I've ever seen in Rape/Revenge trope movies are done in a very non enticing way and more in a brutal or degrading way which is how it's supposed to be done to make her revenge or another characters revenge more satisfying to the viewer because we then get to see the attackers be brutalized and degraded themselves through gory or intense scenes of prolonged agony for the antagonists. It's meant to make you angry and uncomfortable on purpose, so the gory deaths of the antags are satisfying to watch. I'm aware you could make it less graphic, but it could make the extreme gore and violence enacted feel unjustified by the audience. This is coming from someone who doesn't particularly like rape/revenge movies. One movie I think that actually did it well was the 2016 Death Wish remake. It cut the rape and the impact was still reasonably there because it focused on the attack and the mc's feeling of failure to his family, unlike Bronson's, which focused on the rape and gory revenge of the father. That being said, not all stories can do that and make the story feel just as impactful, like with ISOYG and TLHOTL.
When a family adopts a child who turns out to be not what they seemed, yet somehow the husband of the family is the only one who believes the child is completely innocent
Have you seen Orphan?
@@BooneErica Yes, that is exactly what I had in mind when commenting lol
I'm pretty sure the orphan is the only movie that does this
@@so_in_the_bottom_joshua Tin & Tina would also fit this category
We need to talk about Kevin
Deeeefinitely the slicing of the palm for blood. No matter what the blood is being used for, they always slice a three inch gash across the palm and it drives me CRAZY
right like imagine grabbing things with your palm like that
omg been watching yellowjackets and they do that like 5 times 😭
And then immediately walking through a river of shit 😂 AND NOT DYING OF SEPSIS
Not a movie, but a show did this. Supernatural. Bothered the heckkk out of me
FR and it makes no sense bc the skin on ur palm is thick and it harder to draw blood there forearm will always make most sense plus using ur hand wont bug u after
As a medical doctor: the 30-min-knockout takes me out of the story too. Anything longer than a few seconds is a serious indication of brain injury or bleeding within the skull: you CANNOT just “walk that off”. Then again, a lot of injuries are just “walked off” in movies, which isn’t always realistic, but moves the story along. I get it, but I’d actually find it scarier to see the true lasting consequences depicted on screen too: that’s often where the real horror is. There’s only so much our bodies can take before lifealtering damage, and that’s terrifying in itself.
And as a bonus i would add the random silence just before some kind of jumpscare ESPECIALLY husband/friend suddenly showing up out of nowhere like as if the main character just got deaf for 10 seconds
Best jump scare I've seen is in Haunting Of Hillhouse where the two sisters are arguing in the front seat and right in the middle of it the ghost of the dead sister pops out of the back seat and screams. Happened while they were in mid argument and just freaked me out.
For real it’s like a giant red neon sign saying “HEY GUYS A JUMPSCARE IS GOING TO HAPPEN SOON!” instead of genuine buildup
Lmao 😂
And we all think it’s a monster but then the protagonist turns around and it’s a husband or friend so annoying
@@Insomnia19101 The best version of that I recall-not sure if its considered outright horror, but Harrison Ford in What Lies Beneath
One thing that drives me crazy is when something scary happens, then cuts to the next day and everyone's OK. Like, what happened in the time between?? How did they get out of certain situations, etc...?
I like the bird jumps scare in Final Destination 2. It’s the hint to the kids death and whole reason the glass is being changed is because the birds keep breaking them. Which is what kills him
0:56 I wanna see a movie where a woman has runny or smeared makeup, a snotty/red nose and swollen eyes from crying, tangled hair, etc. These girls will be screaming and crying the whole movie and somehow their mascara hasn’t started running? Alright
Along the same line, but includes men as well, ever notice how someone can get punched in the mouth repeatedly and not lose a tooth?
Watch 80s slasher movies
Blair Witch 2016. The girl gets seriously messed up near the ending, all as you described. Actress is still very beautiful though, but you can see they did their best to make her look really messed up. And she is very smart and not annoying at all, for a change.
Ready Or Not is literally this
Hellraiser (2022 version) did this well.
I HATE IT when a character acts perfectly reasonable and sane while interacting with others but the SECOND it's revealed that they are the bad guy, they turn into a caricature of evil insanity. A truly crazy person, aka someone having a psychotic break, isn't going to cunningly play sane to get away with mess. The Candyman reboot/sequel pissed me off so much for this reason. His whole demeanor changed up the second he was revealed as the bad guy and I know that if he was like that 24/7/365, no one would have gone near the clearly mentally unstable person.
Literally Scream 2 (Nancy)
Ikr. The only case where this is good is when it's clear that acting innocent is a part of their mental illness and the movie is set in a low tone where THEY are the protagonist.
In Catholic/Exorcism horror where the cute young Novitiate is always the hero. Give me a cranky, Clint Eastwood-type Mother Superior who has just had enough of everyone’s shit and won’t let her convent go down without a fight.
This isn’t a movie nor is she a Mother Superior, but Sister Andrea on the tv show “Evil” is like this. Shes the main person with any sense a lot of the time.
This same thing inspired me to play a Call of Cthulhu one-shot as a Mother Superior. She had no social skills beyond intimidation, could read four different languages outside of just English and Latin and had a resolve you could photograph. Her barking the Prayer of Michael the Archangel while riding a motorcycle through a crowd of cultists in a town in Maine was the highlight of the scenario.
Damn that’s a cool idea I loved how you described her lol
When the husband doesn't believe his wife that the house is haunted,and is concesding about it.but when something paranormal happens to him he gets mad at the wife and yells at her for not telling him that the house was haunted but she tried to earlier,and he wants to leave now.
and then he gets killed hahahahs
It’s either that or the husband (usually when they’re both in bed) very calmly and sincerely tells his wife he believes her and is ready to call an expert or something
@@izzyandthesubterraneans370 Us?
One of my icks in horror movies is the "Bury your minority pal trope", just killing off the one :POC, queer, sometimes both characters just to help the main protagonist(s) to beat the villain terrorizing them. Also, characters lacking common survival skills when danger occurs such as, running away from a killer, and they trip then crawl, or the group split up.
In the new horror movie Tarot, there are two heavily implied queer characters that are probably dating, and the first one to be killed off is one of the women in the couple. AND it was the one that wasn't a famous actress.
Either that, or it’s the maniac dream pixie girl best friend/gf who was an optimist or a sunshine or whatever who dies for the protagonists development and motivation to kill the killer
Gotta make it all about you
My favorite horror trope is the final girl being absolutely drenched in blood. bonus points if she has an expression of madness.
I also noticed the worst part about the scary naked old person trope is they’re always old women. that hasn’t gone past me.
The blood pool scene from The Descent is my favourite!
My favourites the end scene of Rob Zombie's Halloween
Literally original 1974 texas chainsaw (fav scene)
"My grandpa,he looking at you now,and he naked"
ready or not
Adding to the "30 minute knock out" line of thought- when they inject someone with tranq in the neck and they instantly go down completely unconscious for hours. I've been a psych nurse for 10 years, tranqs take at least 15-20 mins to take any effect and only sometimes makes them sleepy after a while - we WISH we had tranq's that worked that fast and effectively!
OMG yes the only drug I can think of that knocks you out like that is propofol but they also loose their airway with it and nobody ever seem to carry an ambubag to a heist
When I went under surgery the anesthesiologist injected something that worked in 10 secs. I was completely out.
So maybe what they use in the movies plot, is something like that.
Animal tranqs seem to work pretty fast.
@@Szilvi79yeah but a thing like that would make you unable to breathe and you need to be hooked on tubes until you wake up
As someone who was tranq'd, I was mildly disappointed at how anticlimactic they were 😂
Most mentally ill people aren’t violent and are actually far more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators, but boy would movies have us believing the opposite :/ Shyamalan is truly on my shit list because of this
I 100% agree with you and definitely needs to be talked about it more. As a fellow horror lover I do hate how it instill fear into people with disorders and such and I even find myself sometimes judging based on their disorder as someone who also has one!
Why won’t the opposite be in movies?
@@fangirldreamer748 you mean the mentally sane people?
I was protected by a schizophrenic boy before as well as a guy with a split personality when somebody else in their care setting was acting out of place, and both these people were victims of abuse, yet movies have had a horrible reputation of portraying these specific disorders as being the traits of mad killers
@torytellstales just a minor suggestion- the split personality lable is no longer used and instead DID is used(Dissociative Identity Disorder). The DID community prefers this lable ❤
But yes 100% everything you said is my experience as well
For that first ick, a movie that does a good job of NOT doing that, is Gerald's Game. The female protagonist is shown how she'd ACTUALLY look throughout the situation.
S/A scenes are one of the few things in mainstream that will cause me to turn off a movie before finishing it. The issue isn't the topic itself for me, just the fact that I have to sit through that feels really wrong when I'm browsing Netflix.
Graphic cruelty to animals is a big ICK for me. It can take me right out of a movie. I stopped watching The Innocents after the scene with the cat. I wish writers would come up with some new ways to show a character is a psychopath.
Trish - 👏👏👏
'Seconded'.
Just wrote my own comment about animals being unnecessarily involved in horror 🙌
I've stopped horror movies so many times to check Does the Dog Die to see if I want to continue.
While I agree somewhat, cruelty to animals is one of the main symptoms of violent psychopathy. So it's not out of the question to use it in that manner.
@@JBravoEcho09 This is true. But, do we as the audience have to be witness to it? It can be a part of the plot without us having to see it.
i cant stand when men are uncomfortable with male nudity in horror movies or give the movie a bad rating based on that. i was watching a review on in a violent nature and the first thing the (male) critic said was “WARNING- THERES FRONTAL MALE NUDITY- like, we don’t need to see that, ok?” but woman can be exploited continuously in horror?
This. Guys never bat an eye at constant female nudity, but put a blue cgi dick in a movie(the watchmen) and men everywhere shrieked in unison.
The comment section is just a bunch of insecure woman bitching about things not related to horror movies.
Not just horror, its basically every genre but god forbid we ever see a male buttcheek for half a shot
Im curious on what you thought about “In a Violent Nature”? My family and I saw it in theatres and I found it interesting but immediately after watching it all I wanted was to hear other peoples opinions on it. The movie intrigued me, to say the least-
So is your criticism it should be okay for men to be exploited and it should happen more or women should be exploited less?
I did a segment on the other side of the 30 minute knockout. There's this trope of a character getting knocked out by a tranquilizer shot, and they IMMEDIATELY go out. In order for a tranquilizer to work that fast on a human, it would most likely kill the person. James Wan LOVES to do this, and the girl from Candyman 3 gets knocked out like every 15 minutes.
Also I'm surprised you didn't mention RELIGIOUS HORROR 😈
I can’t be a hypocrite, I loved The First Omen and Immaculate AND I can’t lie… I love a good cheesy exorcism movie.
Dr. Mike has done WTF videos on knockouts in film. Basically, the brain damage would be seriously problematic. But in those films? The characters are a-ok? 🤣
[Oh, and I love the rants! Keep 'em coming!]
@@CZsWorld The first omen and immaculate are really good despite being religious.
You should really cover them in your future video
@@CZsWorldand also you should see "late night with the devil" that is also a good horror movie
My ick is when the character sees the most disturbing thing in the hallway walk past or attack them for a second just for them to snap back to reality and somebody ask if there’s something wrong and they just say no and continue with their day till something else happens
Haunting on hill house irked my soul for that nonsense…
good thing that the final destination franchises doesn't deal with that
i think my biggest one is similar to the mental illness one (and this doesn’t just apply to horror)-making the villain a child abuse victim. i don’t think abuse stories should be avoided altogether, and it IS possible for abuse victims to go down bad paths, but damn it’d be nice to see the good guy be a survivor rather than seeing “oh this guy is EVIL because he was ABUSED!!” shoehorned in for the millionth time.
an honorable mention is the whole “no one believes the protagonist” thing, especially child protagonists. like yeah i get 99% of people aren’t gonna buy into something paranormal happening, but that trope has been so overplayed and is essentially in almost every horror movie ever :/
Movie: shows scary old people
Sarah: And I took that personally
Hilarious lmao
Then stay away from the Taking of Deborah Logan.
The thing is, there can be scary old people, not people that are scary because they are old
I took it personally too. I'm genuinely terrified of getting old
Mine is the trope in a zombie apocalypse where they risk a bunch of healthy people to go on a supply run for one person that’s infected or about to die soon.
Or in horror movies while being chased or hiding from someone and it’s a very tense situation and the characters decide it’s the perfect time to stop and hug or confess their love or kiss.
yes it’s so irritating
I feel like it would be interesting to see maybe the healthy characters of the apocalypse movie try and ease the sick character into a peaceful death, like instead of running out to get very limited medicine and risking everything, they all try to use what they have and bring comfort. This would eliminate the very tired scenes where they run to the abandoned pharmacy or department store, something shitty happens, a couple of characters die that honestly never needed to, and then they go back and the one sick/already dying character gets to live on or die from something else entirely unrelated to their sickness
my biggest horror movie ick is when a protagonist thinks they're finally killing the killer but then it's revealed that it's an ally/their best friend/boyfriend/etc. i always roll my eyes because it's such a cheap and lazy way to try and make the audience emotional. i'm totally fine with movies that kill of the protagonist or one of the main characters, but 9 times out of 10, if they go out this way, it feels unearned.
This is maybe a better way to describe mine especially when it’s like an accident that they’re killing their best friend/mom/etc
Letting actors be ugly adds gravity and realism. It absolutely eats me UP when designers go for this heavily produced type of look. Takes us completely out of the world. The only place that works is camp. Let Actresses Look Ugly 2025.
I love when editors edit to the beat of something 😭 it's satisfying to me
the trailers being edited to the beat is a guilty pleasure of mine😭😭😭❤
I like them too 😁😅
same! i love when trailers are edited like that lol
I'm glad you mentioned SA as it's something I've realized, as I've gotten older, that I really can't stand, graphic or not. I was recently rewatching The Hills Have Eyes (2006) -- a movie I remember really enjoying when I saw it as a teenager. But after the SA scene I was feeling borderline nauseous and turned the movie off. Maybe it was the overall context that pushed it over the edge for me, people being close but not hearing the calls for help but holy shit I could NOT finish the movie after that.
Also eye and fingernail stuff really icks me out
yesss i agree w the fingernail stuff 😭 that one part in immaculate icked me out smmm
Definitely eye and fingernail stuff, ugh
Agreed, except if the plot of the film hinges on it. It was integral to Last House On The Left and I Spit On Your Grave, for example.
I will not watch a movie because of this
My friend loves The Devils Rejects and Three from Hell, and I can’t stand them for that exact reason. Like the way they go the extra mile to allude graphic SA done at the hands of the protagonists is nauseating.
One of my icks is the "creepy little kid" trope mostly bc the child actor rarely is good enough to make it work.
I just find it over done.
It’s always the little girl in the little lace dress with the broken doll or the rotting stuffed animal going “he’s my best friend 🥺 he just wants to play 🥺” and mean while the doll or toy looks like this- “👹👺😈”
I don't know if this has been pointed out before, but I feel like certain aspects of the "creepy little kid" trope are just a modern version of the Changeling myth in the sense that it's demonizing traits that are often associated with neurodivergence. The fact that the kid simply being quiet, not smiling often, not playing with other kids much, etc. are all framed as "red flags" has some pretty mean-spirited implications. Also, it REALLY doesn't help that these sorts of child characters are seemingly always written to be as unlikeable and irredeemable as humanly possible, even when the audience is expected to feel sorry for them.
I think it would be so cool if, there’s a dream sequence in a movie, but what happens in the dream happens for real, and the main character is in denial constantly saying “it’s just a dream” and the killer says to them “you’re not dreaming anymore” that would be so cool to see as a twist.
That's basically A Nightmare on Elm Street, isn't it? 😅
I hate it when characters get badly injured and then five seconds later they continue running like everything’s absolutely fine. I’m fairly sure in most of those situations either it would be too painful to stand/move and/or your body would go into shock and your cognition would not be great.
"bUt ADrENALinE-"
I'm with you. I'm more on the edge of my seat watching someone desperately limping away from a threat than running with perfect form after having a bullet or knife through their leg. It feels more like a 50/50 chance if they're gonna make it and thats the suspence I want when watching a chase scene.
I can't believe I had to scroll for 5 minutes to find this!! It's annoying when characters get shot or stabbed but they just carry on running and fighting like nothing happened 🤦🏻
Characters who are lucky enough to manage knocking the weapon out of the killer's hand and they just... leave it there? If you don't loot that body and haul ass-
My icks:
When the partner/friend or whatever doesn’t believe you and think you must be “just seeing things” until the plot needs them to believe you;
People doing the dumbest shit just to move forward the plot;
Unnecessary sex scenes;
I CANNOT stand sex scenes in horror movies. Besides X, they always feel so pointless.
Worst sex scene: The Lost Boys. Dude ran to the girl and was scared about what was happening to him, but just ended up having sex with her.
@@Midnight-up7doparasite is more horror-adjacent, but i think it did it well too
I feel like sex scenes are unnecessary in media in general most of the time, especially graphic ones. Like you can just imply characters are hooking up, we don’t need to actually see it. Unless it relates to the plot on some way, they just feel weird to me, especially given that many actors/actresses often come forward about how uncomfortable they are to film.
For the first one, isn't that a realistic reaction though? Even if it comes from a partner or friend, if they say they saw some weird creature or supernatural thing, I doubt most people would believe them.
I definitely have an ick for SA. I also don't really like incest like in IT. i understand these things are scary but i came here to be scared by a ghoulie not for a hard slap of reality.
Also, I find it funny that you dislike the synced-to-music trailers because when i was taking motion design that was like, the number one thing we learned. We even had the sound waves pulled up to make sure it was syncing exactly.
That's my exact problem - real world horror should be different from movie horror. I enjoy slasher movies, which sure could technically happen in real life, but it's a much less present fear in my daily life than SA is, so I don't really need movies to remind me how scary it is
@@rebeccadodd1394i respectfully absolutely disagree. i love horror precisely because it covers real world topics that need to be discussed and that every other genre would rather brush under the rug. ofc it can often be exploitative, but when it’s done right (which it also often is - horror as a genre has historically always been interested in exploring trauma), it’s far better to discuss these issues through art than to just pretend they never happen
though i should clarify as much as it’s cathartic and liberating for me to see these subjects confronted head-on, i do firmly believe that the actual act of abuse or violence never needs to be physically shown. but horror being one of the most visually creative genres often employs very innovative yet effective ways of implying the violence rather than showing it
edit: i stupidly wrote this comment before i finished the video but sarah basically articulates exactly what i’m saying here lol
@@rebeccadodd1394I think that’s completely fair, I think there’s nothing wrong if you hate that happening in movies. But it just annoys me when people criticize filmmakers for doing it, and treating artists like monsters for including it. In my opinion there’s nothing that can’t be touched on in movies especially horror. It’s up to the viewer what they what to watch. But also I can respect the hate for unnecessary sa, opposed to just saying it shouldn’t be filmed at all for any reason which a lot of people say
@@rebeccadodd1394I hear ya. I’ve been in combat and now am a therapist. I personally don’t need high art / real world horror, i just like old school horror.
I don’t watch as much new stuff due to this, tho the original Evil Dead did have the tree scene.
But most days I hear SA from men and women or just trauma in general. I just want some Jason and Crystal lake shenanigans 😂 and turn my brain off.
The true horror is at work for me I guess. BUT I get to see people overcome these things most of the time and hear to go kick ass in the world, just wanted to end with that and not be a downer!
one of my biggest horror movie icks is when the movie has a pet or animal that they eventually kill off
I also agree with how women can’t not look pretty and it’s SO BAD in action movies where her male counterparts will literally be beaten and bloody with black eyes and she just gets a teeny cheek scratch
Thank you so much for talking about sa being used for shock value. As a victim of sa (including csa) I am all for depicting horrific things but there's a line that definitely needs to be drawn. Using it as exploitation fodder is not okay. Horror doesn't need to depict scenes like that in graphic detail or have them take up a good chunk of runtime (looking at you, Last House on the Left remake).
It's not hard to have the assaults be more suggestive and/or have the really bad bits happen off-screen. If you can't figure out how to tone it down for audiences you have no business putting it in a movie.
Yeah, there's "This happened and we need you to understand something about the event for story reasons" and "Haha I bet THAT shocked you, huh? Are you disturbed? I'm *such* a dark filmmaker."
@@caseypatterson7030 You put that into words BEAUTIFULLY
I actually agree with many of your's: women being too pretty, graphic rape, scary old people. Another one of mine is using racial trauma in a way that feels exploitative (Them, Antebellum, probably others). Movies that do tend to not have the feel of Jordan Peele movies or other great Black horror, where race/racism is a tool or element in the story, and not the source of horror altogether.
Same. It’s like they try to copy “Get Out” but don’t understand what made it so successful to begin with
Ugh I was really hopeful for antebellum but it just went so downhill and the twist was just meh in my opinion. It had such great potential
I absolutely refuse to watch Them. I started the first season and didn’t like the initial vibes just seeming mean spirited. So I read spoilers to see if it was worth continuing and after finding out how much the Black family was brutalized, I immediately stopped it.
@@lainadelpay Yesss, the show felt downright evil. I watched the whole thing and It just left a bad taste in my mouth. There wasn’t really any great morals and was so overly violent I just don’t know how I feel about it tbh…
theres something to say about horror using specifically old WOMEN in horror, frequently. ageing in women is scary and ugly, women are supposed to stay young forever, in hollywoods eyes.
Oh it's definitely a reflection of how society views aging women. It's a patriarchal trope that needs to end.
Oh it's definitely a reflection of how society views aging women. It's a patriarchal trope that needs to end.
It even had a name back in the day, Hagsploitation, because it was so common.
as someone over 50 I find that very insulting. Like "old people so ugly they are scary, yuck!". How vile!
They're giving old women the male treatment. It's not surprising.
The one I hate is when a gunshot is only audible to characters that are in that room. Like somewhere else in the same house they're oblivious (The Purge does this for instance). Also, silencers making gunshots nearly silent rather than still loud but not deafening. Guns are *deafeningly* loud, if someone fires a gun everybody in the area should instantly know about it.
12:05 YES!!! as someone who's wanted to be a doctor for most her life it's infuriating. people usually wake up after a few seconds, once it gets to be closer to a minute you're looking at possible brain damage. a minute or two and you might be vegetated. anything after that and you are just flat out dead or you're in a coma
I didn't watch Emma's video, so idk if she touched on this. But a HUGE ick for me is the "place is cursed because it was built on a Native American burial ground" trope. You mentioned The Taking of Deborah Logan as an example for the "old people" trope ick, but that movie is one of the ones applicable to the "Native American burial ground" trope as well. As an Indigenous person, it's just so stupid and a huge eye-roll every single time that becomes the...conclusion? lol
Yes! A film set in the Catacombs would make sense because it’s literally BUILT WITH SKELETONS AND IS SOMEHOW A TOURIST DESTINATION IN FRANCE! You guys get so much hate for your burial grounds which I think look nice (not fetishing, I just like burial grounds from cultures like Vikings to Southern Africa to America)
WHYYYYYYY DOES THERE HAVE TO BE A BURIAL GROUND TO MAKE SOMETHING CREEPY?
Also, make horror movies take place during different times of the day rather than NIGHT.
Same! If it's not the "native American burial ground" trope, then there will be the "wise native American who warns the others" trope. There'll be this stereotypically dressed wise man/woman who will stop the protagonist/a person who's going to die soon, and say "do not go there! I SAID DO NOT GO THERE!" I'm from India and here also this trope is used. Just replace native Americans with tribal people, Swamis (who are like Hindu saints) or hermits lol. It's so overused that it becomes funny to me 😂
I once saw a woman in a series cry and THE MASCARA GOT SMUDGED and it remained smudged for one more scene, just a bit less runny.
I was in disbelief until I saw that the director was a woman and I was like "ah, she knows!" 😆
Honestly trailers are soooo done. I mean they either show too much and usually show the best moments of the movie or they completely change the movie's plot/ tone/ genre and then audiences feel betrayed
I hated how in the trailers for the Blumhouse film "Imaginary", they only play the first few lyrics of a song simply because it has the word "imaginary" in it....
It's lazy and uncreative.
They show way too much 😂
Old movies used show a bunch too. The original Carrie and Halloween show major character deaths in the trailer. It’s not an entirely new phenomenon.
One thing I've grown to despise is a movie where it's just a woman going through a kidnapping/stalking/abuse/generally terrible real-life situation and is basically fighting for their life and nearly helpless for 2/3 of the movie, like that happens in real life and appears in the news already. Give us a female power fantasy, a fem slasher, or something else, please cuz at this point it just feels like trauma c0rn.
-hiding under the bed from the killer
-characters having sex at the most inconvenient times
-calling out “who’s there?” Because you are NOT going to like the answer
-people shooting guns with no ear protection and having their eardrums be perfectly fine afterwards
-girls act “emotional” while the guys are unaffected and take charge
-catering to the male fantasy instead of keeping the character personalities realistic
-making you hate a character so when they die first you don’t care
-having adults play children
-having underage characters have sex on camera
-Having the main antagonist excused for their past actions because they “changed”. *ahem, sequel, cough cough.*
I remember Megan Fox's makeup taking me out of the movie so many times during In Death
I did like the movie , a lot actually, but it felt too “edited” at times if that makes sense
it makes no sense to me because in jennifers body, which the whole thing is she needs to eat people (or boys) to rejuvenate herself to look beautiful again and they still let her get dirty and disgusting, as much as megan fox even can
My main ick, you kinda mention it, but because 80% of horror movies rely on this, it's using loud sounds to fake jumpcares because the movie can't scare you otherwise. It's why I fell in love with It Follows, because it scares you without quick scenes, withoutvloud noises it's slow, and that works, it's clever. Jumpscares are cheap, you're not scared of the movie, the sounds just literally hurt.
The dream or fake/out scenes are the worst, it just shows a movie or show is afraid to actually go somewhere, it always feels like I'm wasting my time. "The 8 Show" on Netflix was a great series, but did this 3 or 4 times I was getting mad at it, haha!
Saw 3D did the legacy character thing, and I hated it so much, they did it because fans were begging for it, but it was stupid as hell and made no sense.
100% with you on the jump scares. Fake (and real) jumpscares is honestly one of the only reasons I don't watch horror movies as much as I'd like. Like if you can't make a good horror movie or can't set the right ambience without faking a jumpscare, should you even be making a horror movie. I too loved It Follows because of this, and I also love loads of Jordan Peele movies because I don't think he uses that many faked jumpscares.
I totally agree with both. I generally dislike jump scares in horror, just as a rule, because, to me, probably 95% of jump scares are just lazy filmmaking. You can't figure out how to make your movie actually scary (or tense, or creepy, or disturbing, etc), so you're going to resort to startling your audience instead? Not the same thing as scary. However, I would even expand on the "fake jumpscares" thing and include Sarah's "bird jumpscare" along with it, and just say that ALL kinds of fake jumpscares need to stop. For example, the "oh, it's just a bird" jumpscare, the "oh, it's just a cat" jumpscare, or the "oh, it's just your friend tapping you on the shoulder suddenly" jumpscare. Those are so ick, and so much worse than even the "monster is right behind you" jumpscares, which at least make sense in a lazy horror kind of way.
To be fair jumpscares can be good, it’s just that they’re often done poorly. One of the best scares in It Follows is one.
@@SOBEKCrocodileGod That moment doesn't use overloud noise to try and scare you. The scene itself does.
@@nethergoth that’s why it’s one of the better jumpscares. The jump comes from the visuals rather than just a startling noise. (The tall guy in the hallway)
Love this video idea!
I always have some icks for various things in movies and some things I just genuinely hate:
* Not double tapping
* Going upstairs when running away
* Unnecessary nudity
* Women being portrayed as idiots
* The car not starting for some random unexplained reason
* Also not locking the car door when you get in it
* Phones being left on silent so people asking for help dont get answered
* People being highly trained in using guns but cannot land a single shot on the villain depite them only walking away (????)
* A massive one is people's inability to hear other people being attacked in their house?? Like how tf are you both in the same house and you cant hear them being smashed through a bookshelf???
A big no for me is animal cruelty or animal murders that add nothing to the plot whatsoever.
Theres definitely more but these are the ones that stand out to me 😊
The only thing I can think of that I can't stand in horror is when someone hears a noise and their first instinct is to say "hello?" and/or walk towards the sound. Also running upstairs instead of out of the house.
My biggest ick for horror movies (and sometimes movies in general) is children being put in perilous situations that they can't (or don't) escape from. Anything with kids getting hurt, maimed, SA'd, unalived, etc. makes me so deeply uncomfortable.
Don't watch IT then.
Doctor Sleep was almost ruined for me because of this. They couldn't just imply or do the murder of the baseball boy off-screen... the villains literally tortured him and enjoyed it before ending him. Ugh.
A couple of my hicks.
Someone tripping while running from a killer or monster because they're looking behind.
Someone hiding from a killer and monster and breathing or sobbing super hard wile holding their hand on their mouth.
Cellphones with no signal, no charge or forgotten in the car.
to be honest to the breathing too hard could say some ways it could be sort of excused. one is obviously the absolute fear the person in likely also raises the heart rate quite a bi and raises need for oxygen quite a bit. plus also what many ppl tend to do when they need to be quiet in hiding is to hold their breath which results in them sooner or later gasping for air cause the body tries to still keep itself alive and notices lack of oxygen
I can excuse the breathing but when they start whining and moaning loudly I just yell "Shut the fuck up" at the screen💀
Breathing heavily and making noise is actually very realistic. Put yourself in an adrenaline filled situation, doesn't even have to be life and death, and you won't realise the weird ass sounds you make until you pay attention to them.
For the longest time I always hated when horror movies used those scenes where the character closes the bathroom mirror and there's someone behind them, but now I feel like they will still use that, but not have someone behind so they trick us.
omg yes!! i alaways get nervous when a character closes a bathroom mirror, a fridge or a door. all of it makes me so scared and lately nothing ever happens. it drives me insane
My final straw with sa in movies was Rob Zombie's Halloween... like why the hell is there a rape scene in that movie?!
Because he likes to shock people for no valid reason.
Yup at least the theatrical cut doesn't have it
I hate when people hide things from the other main characters in horror for no reason. It’s bad in any drama really, but in horror it can lead to characters actually getting killed
It makes sense if there is a reason. Like the others not being safe people to be around, or having a reasonable grudge.
But not telling just like that doesn't make sense.
my horror pet peeves:
gaslighter husband
child says monster is “their friend”
the “moving into a new huge house thats creepy” trope
My ick is when writers/directors try to create suspense or hide who the killer is but use all the same troupes as other movies so you can figure it out based on the title scene, highest paid actor, the character they give a close-up to after a body is found, etc.
The only time a bird jump scare is acceptable is in Hitchcocks THE BIRDS movie. Lol😂
And so agree with the excessive dream sequences. Hate that!
I actually LOVE when movie trailers are edited to the beat of the music 😭 but *not* when it’s the entire trailer, like only a scene or two 🤌🏻
Something I really hate is when horror trailers show too much or EVERYTHING. I love when they just show simple, small glimpses into a single scene, or two, and it makes me want to know more.
You can say Blumhouse bro 💀
Three off the top of my head:
1. A friend/family group not believing each other when someone saw something.
2. Graphic depictions of animal gore.
3. Those dang crow jump scares. Like the slow crawl of a tension build into an inevitable jump scare. Then the friggin crow caws and explodes our eardrums
Even worse for number 1: when MULTIPLE people see the same thing and they brush it off. Like what? Sure, if one person thought they saw a face in the window, you might dismiss them as being paranoid or it was a trick of the light. But when multiple people see the same thing... why would you not take that seriously.
When there’s a hospital scene and there’s no lighting… like has anyone ever been in a hospital?? The blinding fluorescent lights and constant noise is part of the experience.
Also along with mental illness, people with cognitive disabilities.
Also teen/college friend group where everyone actually hates each other?? Like that shit is so annoying
I'm so glad you threw in examples of trailers being edited to the music cuz I had no clue what you were talking about. I guess I never paid attention. But I see it now. 😆
you covered a lot of good ones!
i love listening to your rants, personally. the whole SA one is always the one that ruins a movie for me the most. horror or not, graphic SA makes me feel so sick. huge ick for me is definitely any sort of incorrect gun use? like when a character is using a shotgun and they cock it simply for the theatrics and sound, when in reality there was most likely bullet in the chamber? or endless ammo too. it happens in a lot in other genres as well. OH and also when anyone is being strangled and theyre instantly dead? because it takes a LONG time to kill someone by strangulation.
We want Spooky astronaut Emma and Sarah Collab
Spooky & Possessed! 💗
They have met before!
I've never noticed the editing of trailers to music but wow, that Hereditary one almost gave me a heart attack rn lmao, like can we calm down a little bit with the sensory overload 😭💀
2:25 in Countdown when she’s fighting the reaper or whatever, her hair is messed up and wet and then when it cuts it’s suddenly blow dried and perfect☠️ it’s like they didn’t even try to make it subtle
Badly written stupid characters or having characters act stupid as a way to make writing the plot easier
From the pfp I have gleaned that you are a person of culture
That’s why they include the athletic jock who’s a risk taking hot headed adrenaline junkie so that he can be killed off by being overconfident and doing something risky like touching the monster
That’s why I loved Vacancy. Watching Luke Wilson work out solutions I would never have thought of was refreshing
The fight where someone drops a weapon and they both... DESPERATELY try to crawl towards it and grab it needs to f'n die too. I don't ever want to see that in a movie again.
THANK YOU for mentioning mental health here! I have DID and as a horror fan, I appreciate how the genre is pretty much the only one that has any DID representation BUT I get fed up of it being displayed as aggressive and/or becoming the big plot twist. Split will always be uncomfortable for me! Love your videos ❤
I don’t have DID but watching Split it felt very disingenuous and misrepresented
I know one random person on the internet isn't going to help much but when I think of DID, I think of people who have their shit together way better than I do lmao. I met someone (or rather a group of people, I think? Not sure what's the right terminology in this case) in a mental facility who I suspect had DID but I was scared to ask and since everyone went along with the personality changes, so did I. I was slightly intimidated by them at first but I was put in a room with her and we ended up bonding so hard. I really regret not staying in touch and still think of them from time to time. I have watched several documentaries on DID since and most of those who have it seem well adjusted and know how to take care of themselves. Minus when extreme triggers occur but that throws everyone for a loop honestly. People who jugde everyone based on their diagnosis + bad media rep alone are biggoted assholes.
DUDE!! SAME. I have DID as well, and I find most movies portraying DID to be a slap in the face.
When women are the sole target or violence & it's not examined at all. I hated Terrifier for this reason. Men died in the movie but the women were targeted with extreme prejudice and given prolonged on-screen mutilation deaths which usually specifically targeted their sexual parts and mocked the feminine archetype they represented. And this was never addressed, it was just exploited.
This is another one of those things not exclusive to horror but you know what kind of scene bugs me for no reason? When characters go to a restaurant for some kind of meeting and order something, then end up leaving before the food gets there or just leaving the plate (two examples off the top of my head are the diner scene in Stranger Things 4 and one scene in Nimona). It’s a totally inconsequential thing, yes, but part of me is like “why did you bother ordering at all??? Get a box at least…”