Why don’t we talk about the crime that these girls parents committed by putting them on the pageant circuit and they were six years old? And now the mothers are out there crying for their little babies? Give me a break.
NDAs become void when a crime is committed or when your person is in danger. NDAs are not for the purpose of covering up illegal activities and are invalid if they are unconscionable, unreasonable, or go against public policy. Generally speaking, if you are being presented with a NDA, immediately consult a lawyer.
So there is now a crime in a man asking a woman if she likes older men? It’s creepy for sure but maybe she does many young women do! My God what we can’t talk now to each other? She just was in a contest that was all about her tits and ass. It certainly wasn’t about her brain… She’s not a neuroscientist she’s not an astronaut she’s not a wizard. She wasn’t you know inventing something to save humanity. She pranks around with her tits and ass out and One OK so some older guy thinks you’re attractive and hits on you.. she’s an adult! She can’t handle a guy hitting on her wow🙄
Too many usage of NDAs in inappropriate situations ! NEver sign one without having your lawyer reviewing it . And using it to hold someone hostage to truth and transparency…..Really ? So there was some misbehaving happening , huh ???? Shameful that these pageantry heads won’t hold people accountable for proper and descent behaviour. After all that we went through hearing about Weinstein ….. SMH 🤦♀️.
@@rivenadeshizzle pretty sure the entire video was about unsafe working conditions including sexual harassment which would fall under both criminal activity and your person being in danger. I think in this case the girls know they're up against rich and powerful people and are scared of speaking out or they have been very misinformed about NDAs
I'm glad these two girls took a stand. All previous contestants have faced this and swept it under the rug as a survival technique. Especially grooming by older men who have destroyed so many young women's lives.
@@lesleyatcofo- funny that many to most contestants want the Trump days back because it was run so well and the expectations are reasonable. The story of Trump being in the dressing room was completely de-bunked but media put that on the back burner. Ever notice how media doesn't use it anymore to discredit Trump?
@@Tihnie- apparently a lot more is coming out on Thursday. So far, Noelia said she was threatened with her salary if she didn't do certain things. Smh.
When you see NDA in your contract... Get a lawyer to look through these contracts. Don't sign. Your career changes, your life changes, but you can't change the abuse done to you.
It’s always the MEN involved. Maybe they should be barred. Really! You can’t control what they say to young girls-!? But then you go and control what the young girls have to say about them-!?
It is time for this organization to be checked. Sexual harassment should not be allowed to be silenced because they signed a confidentiality agreement. If it is against the law the agreement goes out the door!! Justice needs to prevail!! Brave women!!
What's worst is Savannah, the new Miss USA's mother went on Instagram and said that Noelia quit for superficial reasons like not having name brand clothes and that she forgotten her role. She belittle Noelia implying she's weak and compared her role to a police officer, then suggested that her negative experience were a mere exaggeration. The worst part is Savannah pinned her comment so everyone can read it and see where she stands. Like mother like daughter. Mean bullies with a superiority complex.
3 months for Savannah (& her mum) to experience what Noelia had gone through in 7 months. I suspect the organisation will be on its best behavior given the spotlight it is under.
How sad they should have left that alone instead of licking the boots of the Miss USA organization that was unnecessary and made both of them look very shallow
@tootietootie9414 she didn't actually win she is a substitute an understudy her crowning comes with a footnote and the crown she wears has been discarded and tarnished
Pageants will never go away because they still have a positive impact on those who participate in them. I think people need to know more about these contests in depth before making such judgments.
Nonsense, there are people who genuinely love and support the pageant industry. Miss USA is going through an incredibly rouch patch right now and that's all due to the wrong decisions being made by people who had hiring power. However, globally pageants have proven to be cultural beacons of country's (in this regard I think of the Miss France pageant which is incredibly well run and functions to be of service to the French people, they love it). Pageants when used and lead correctly can also become powerful platforms that affirm women and aid in giving them a voice to share and advocate for their causes (in this regard I think of the 'Miss South Africa' pageant which on an international level has challenged traditional beauty standards, has had amazing winners who till this day work with international advocacy and empowerment bodies to better the lives of ordinary people, women and children. It's not always about the glitz and glamour, playing dress up and walking in bikinis like a lot of you all in your limited perceptions understand pageantry to be. And it's really important that before making such blanket statements you take the time to research their value and purpose, thereafter you'll understand why they're a social good.
😂 empty words and claws come out as soon as a slightly petty girl who doesn’t make you feel absolutely delighted is in your presence❤ stop y the fakers please
Im glad these girls stepped down and the moms came forward. That was a big sacrifice on their half and for valid reasons. Itll act as fire for these organizations to get their act together. You wld think the metoo movement wld had motivated a lot of them from encouraging or even being passive to such sexual misconduct.
Yes these two stepped down but nothing will change! That's the problem! The bad people aren't prosecuted. They are just transferred and they move on... We need protesting! .
@@Tihniewe didn't get any information because there is an NDA in place, implying crimes were committed though. Also sexual harassment is not supposed to be allowed.
- this is the first year of Laylah Rose as CEO/president but before her was Crystal Stewart who not only had conflicts if interest but her husband s-e-x-ually harassed some contestants...sending out 🍌 videos to them and more.
Some mothers probably pushed their girls into these competitions, kind of like stage door mothers for children. They live their lives through their daughters. It would be interesting though, if other mothers, shared previous experiences from several years ago.
Society has come a long way. Them resigning and coming forward would be unimaginable 20 years ago. It’s why we teach consent in school, it’s why we need less economic inequality, it’s why women should be valued, and value themselves, for who they are and not what they look like.
@@PungiFungi How someone is valued in society has no correlation with what they are or aren’t exempted from. Furthermore, one has to read the entire sentence, not cherry pick phrase within it, to capture the entire context. A context which is self-evident given the story I am commenting on.
@@xx133 it certain does and do not try to deflect with word salads. Women in general listen to argue, instead of listening to understand. Since you brought up economic inequality, it will continue because women are exempted from working the dangerous and labor intensive jobs that men do,
@@PungiFungi famously, coal mining is a very lucrative profession, and white collar jobs are low paying. Right. “Women listen to argue…not understand.” (Isn’t that what you are doing now?). Anyway you are proving my point-that women need to be valued more. Thanks. 🙄
Thank you for sincerely speaking up. Causation and a legal obligation people. Human rights are basic. Legacies don't derserve this perpetuation which is cloaked under silence. Mahalo sincerely for speaking up!
Wasn't it in 2019 Cheslie Kryst who killed self a miss USA pageant. A bright young beautiful girl who killed herself. After these recent claims I'm starting to draw a connection, not saying there is a correlation just saying I can't imagine that atmosphere being good for anyone's mental health. Yes I understand she had her down demons and acknowledged that she died long before the change if management. I'm just saying that she might have had long term truama adding to the personal demons she was struggling with. Competitions in general especially those in the limelight can have very toxic atmospheres. Show business sometimes is just awful.
@@arin7981 I know I guess I mean, could there have been lasting truama from her time there. I also recognize that this girl had some demons she was struggling with.
@@emcemc7506 I'm sure. I'm not very familiar with the whole system of miss USA. Just saying maybe there could have been long term truama from her time there, I do acknowledge that girl had her own demons but competitions in general especially those in the limelight can be very very toxic.
That was under a different director. Plus Cheslie had issues before she even did Miss USA from what I understand. Her mother documented her hospitalization years before hand in her book.
This sadly happens everywhere. Harassment and bullying is not illegal in workplaces but should be. I worked for a courthouse and dealt with it all plus sexual harassment. Our union and HR were absolutely worthless. You cannot sue either, you must go through arbitration. I ended up just leaving that toxic environment. It used to be a great place to work though for quite a few years and I still talk to some of my former GOOD management that had retired and they can’t believe how bad it has gotten. 😢
Its about time someone talked about the truth behind beauty pageants...... They could do so much good in this world, but corruption and money has completely taken over what seems every pageant system and every international title.
Great admiration for both women for standing up for themselves and others involved with this organization by resigning and getting the message out there. Their mothers are great human beings!! The Organization says they "Make A Commitment to . . ." but saying it and actually doing it is two very different things. The Organization will never fully recover from this and perhaps that is a very positive thing.
This doesn’t just happen with beauty pageant winners. It happens in every job and level of society. As a young woman in the Air Force many years ago, I faced the same treatment. Almost every woman on earth may have a similar story, albeit ob a smaller scale.
Yep, I experienced sexual harassment at every job I held, until I worked for a feminist organization. It’s commonplace and management often looks away, even though it’s illegal by law.
Things are not the same as it used to . Everything changed after 2002 . The world feels different after that and after social media came out . We need change
You really don’t think men propositioned young Miss Universe girls before? Probably even more so. The only difference is that all those girls kept quiet about it.
@@173ddddthey are minors, no man should be hitting on a minor, that’s pedophilia! So sick of excusing men who are sexual predators, that’s not normal, it’s a mental illness and dangerous.
I was in a local pageant that had nothing to do with these pageants when i was in hs. Maybe a year later the girl that won was in my class. She tpld me she knew one of the judges and had the other judges vote for her too. She received a modeling contract. She also said she didnt really like modeling anymore.
Society still doesn't really value women for anything more than their looks...until that happens these exploitative "competitions" will continue happening, along with the mess they bring
Well society still values women primarily based on their looks, until that changes these "competitions" will continue going on and so will the mess that comes with them
Not really important in countries that are developed. But I wouldn’t say old fashioned bc it teaches girls how to be well rounded individuals. U clearly don’t understand the concept. Girls from Latin American, Asia and Africa do this to help themselves. Also being beautiful is just the marketing
What sort of society honours and praises beauty against all things & all others? These pageants have always been suss, cringey and creepy. All beautiful woman & girls, and I mean all females, need to recognise and learn this sort of honour is false.
I know what its like to be bullied by a boss on the job. It takes a big toll on your mental health. I left that toxic environment but still sometimes struggle with anxiety. Bullying is NEVER ok. I support both women 1000%. Im proud of Noelia and UmaSofia for standing up for themselves.
This could be one of the final nails on pageants in this country a few yrs back similar complaints were made about the Miss America organization I think a lot of women are going to think twice before entering pageants
Still don't know what they went through . Nothing specific. However, pursuit of that world does bring about negative people and negative situations. Which is why I never encourage my beautiful, smart daughter in that direction.
Pageants should be abolished. Girls thinking ooh I’m beautiful and I should have a crown is ridiculous. There is no need now nor ever for females to strut there stuff and say look at me. I’m better than you. Pageants tried to use scholarships as a way to deter from the fact that it is based on beauty …hence the term beauty pageants. Conceited girls thinking they’re the best based upon their appearance has always been appalling. And no I am not an ugly female who is jealous…In fact I’m an attractive intelligent woman. It is great to be confident and proud of your appearance …we all post photos of when we think we look and feel beautiful. Beauty pageants simply exploit girls/women and send the wrong message on what ideal beauty should look like. I wish these girls much success and happiness along with good health.
This type of contract agreement likely goes on in many sectors such as talent competitions too. Once you sign on the organization “owns” you and your life is out of your control. I once thought it was sad that a great talent didn’t win American Idol but I now think it’s a blessing in disguise that he didn’t because he was later able to control his own career. Thank goodness these two young women had the guts to speak out!
Oh please these moms are the problem letting their daughters entering these idiotic pagents ! Give me a break ! If you dont like the rules dont do it !
This is not about the rules, these girls (minors) were working for the Miss USA organization. They have an obligation u dear US law to provide a safe workplace for minors and adults. They didn’t, and the girls suffered. Case closed.
If I ever have a daughter, I will never send her into these competitions. The world has drastically changed, parents should know. Part of my education will be to walk away from millions, better live peaceful than in front of cameras.
This story is unfortunately NOT uncommon among these pageants. It is a horribly toxic and coercive organization that fosters insane demands that are not humane or decent in nature. I applaud these young women standing up for their well being and self esteem.
If your looking for ways to empower women and encourage them then get rid of the Beauty pageants and introduce more Leadership conferences and community out reach programs run by women as opposed to focusing on the superficial side of it and I think that is absolutely crazy that they had to sign NDAs… WTH!!
You have to wonder because this is a woman that had everything going for her and maybe she was already suffering from depression but I've heard stories for years about how hard these girls are worked during their reign the pressure they're under not being protected from sexual harassment this is nothing new
Never understand most tv shows aired are rushing with time so one only get couple of minutes but when you look, all reports are couple of minutes. Where are they rushing too? To not just cover a story properly. Makes no sense. Give full story
They are just seen as sexual objects but this is what these pageants promote their looks then winning is based almost entirely on looks kind of the wrong message in reality these pageants should be about who they are as a person but that’s not going to be good for ratings so it’s our society that has feed this for years I believe they used to have the Miss teen pageant with bikini walks to judge them on points. I mean what are they looking at their faces come on.
Must be bad if they're both willing to give up EVERYTHING to save their sanity. Proud of them for standing up against sexual harassment, control, and manipulation. Girls in the future will thank them!
Oh please. Talking about mothers who put little girls in pageant. This is a replica of the JonBenet Ramsey. Parents and pageants and children going to pageants from 3/4/5 years of age. They did NOT speak of any substance at all.
I hope no one signs up for Miss USA and Miss Teen USA at all as long as a NDA is required there is no reason for an NDA unless you are part of a lighting crew maybe. NDA's are meant to protect ideas that are copyrighted. This is an obvious abuse of legal tool that should be dealt with in a courtroom once and for all.
I feel that all confidentiality agreements should be illegal/unlawful in the court of law if it is on one or more people just commiting crimes,bullying,and harassing,other mental or possibly physical damages.
I thought it peculiar that two pageant winners committed suicide within a relatively short period a few years ago: one, jumped off the roof of a high-rise, the other, jumped out a ten'story high window.
First of all, kudos to these strong girls for fighting for their values and their own worth! These accusations have to be evaluated completely and with full transparency. The girls now and in the future as candidates and winners should always be protected and not silenced.
I think all beauty contest are ridiculous. Just be yourself girls don't give in to the pageant owners demands. The just want to make a buck off of you.
A confidentiality agreement should never silence a victim. That should be illegal.
Why don’t we talk about the crime that these girls parents committed by putting them on the pageant circuit and they were six years old? And now the mothers are out there crying for their little babies? Give me a break.
@buffalobilly6046 ok one has absolutely nothing to do with the other
I agree! I hope the Pageant queens get to speak out and tell their side of the story.
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NDAs become void when a crime is committed or when your person is in danger. NDAs are not for the purpose of covering up illegal activities and are invalid if they are unconscionable, unreasonable, or go against public policy. Generally speaking, if you are being presented with a NDA, immediately consult a lawyer.
Correct. I am a former law student. You sound like an attorney. ; )
So there is now a crime in a man asking a woman if she likes older men? It’s creepy for sure but maybe she does many young women do! My God what we can’t talk now to each other? She just was in a contest that was all about her tits and ass. It certainly wasn’t about her brain… She’s not a neuroscientist she’s not an astronaut she’s not a wizard. She wasn’t you know inventing something to save humanity. She pranks around with her tits and ass out and One OK so some older guy thinks you’re attractive and hits on you.. she’s an adult! She can’t handle a guy hitting on her wow🙄
Too many usage of NDAs in inappropriate situations ! NEver sign one without having your lawyer reviewing it .
And using it to hold someone hostage to truth and transparency…..Really ? So there was some misbehaving happening , huh ????
Shameful that these pageantry heads won’t hold people accountable for proper and descent behaviour. After all that we went through hearing about Weinstein ….. SMH 🤦♀️.
So there was no crime committed then
@@rivenadeshizzle pretty sure the entire video was about unsafe working conditions including sexual harassment which would fall under both criminal activity and your person being in danger. I think in this case the girls know they're up against rich and powerful people and are scared of speaking out or they have been very misinformed about NDAs
I'm glad these two girls took a stand. All previous contestants have faced this and swept it under the rug as a survival technique. Especially grooming by older men who have destroyed so many young women's lives.
And Donald Trump used to own this organization...
@@lesleyatcofo No surprises there...
How can you be groomed as an adult or if you just say no to older men? And they both didnt quit from 1 experience from 1 contestant.
@@lesleyatcofo- funny that many to most contestants want the Trump days back because it was run so well and the expectations are reasonable. The story of Trump being in the dressing room was completely de-bunked but media put that on the back burner. Ever notice how media doesn't use it anymore to discredit Trump?
@@Tihnie- apparently a lot more is coming out on Thursday. So far, Noelia said she was threatened with her salary if she didn't do certain things. Smh.
Cancel the whole organization, and do a thorough investigation.
When you see NDA in your contract... Get a lawyer to look through these contracts. Don't sign.
Your career changes, your life changes, but you can't change the abuse done to you.
You will not get the job if you don't sign an NDA...
Many, many companies/corporations have them
@@ejeanroh377- yes many companies have them to protect their intellectual property, tech designs, etc., but the Miss USA NDA is a predatory one.
Unfortunately many of them seemed pressured to sign because you do the signing almost immediately from being crowned :(
It’s always the MEN involved. Maybe they should be barred. Really! You can’t control what they say to young girls-!? But then you go and control what the young girls have to say about them-!?
I like that distinction!@@jaynethyson4817
Bravo to these young girl for being strong and self respecting.
Sad but not surprised. I'm glad they are speaking out.
Brave women.
Same.
The audacity in “we can’t control what they say to you but we can control what you say about them,”
Exactly not surprised
It is time for this organization to be checked. Sexual harassment should not be allowed to be silenced because they signed a confidentiality agreement. If it is against the law the agreement goes out the door!! Justice needs to prevail!! Brave women!!
Good for both these young ladies. They did the right thing.
Can’t help but think of Cheslie Kryst
Same 💔
I’m so glad you said this!!!
Oh yes! Thank you 🙏 for saying it!
Yep. I hardly hear anyone mentioning her in relation to this!
@@johnsullivan6025her own family may not have even understood or known everything she went through due to her NDA
What's worst is Savannah, the new Miss USA's mother went on Instagram and said that Noelia quit for superficial reasons like not having name brand clothes and that she forgotten her role. She belittle Noelia implying she's weak and compared her role to a police officer, then suggested that her negative experience were a mere exaggeration. The worst part is Savannah pinned her comment so everyone can read it and see where she stands. Like mother like daughter. Mean bullies with a superiority complex.
3 months for Savannah (& her mum) to experience what Noelia had gone through in 7 months. I suspect the organisation will be on its best behavior given the spotlight it is under.
How sad they should have left that alone instead of licking the boots of the Miss USA organization that was unnecessary and made both of them look very shallow
FUNNY when the only reason she even won is because someone stepped down - let her have her pitty win and look stupid along with her mother
@tootietootie9414 she didn't actually win she is a substitute an understudy her crowning comes with a footnote and the crown she wears has been discarded and tarnished
Savannah's soul is even more tarnished than her discarded crown
They should just get rid of these pageants altogether.
Pageants will never go away because they still have a positive impact on those who participate in them. I think people need to know more about these contests in depth before making such judgments.
No
Nonsense, there are people who genuinely love and support the pageant industry. Miss USA is going through an incredibly rouch patch right now and that's all due to the wrong decisions being made by people who had hiring power. However, globally pageants have proven to be cultural beacons of country's (in this regard I think of the Miss France pageant which is incredibly well run and functions to be of service to the French people, they love it). Pageants when used and lead correctly can also become powerful platforms that affirm women and aid in giving them a voice to share and advocate for their causes (in this regard I think of the 'Miss South Africa' pageant which on an international level has challenged traditional beauty standards, has had amazing winners who till this day work with international advocacy and empowerment bodies to better the lives of ordinary people, women and children.
It's not always about the glitz and glamour, playing dress up and walking in bikinis like a lot of you all in your limited perceptions understand pageantry to be. And it's really important that before making such blanket statements you take the time to research their value and purpose, thereafter you'll understand why they're a social good.
@@PungiFungiI completely agree. This has more to do with the organization itself than the contestants
I’m so with you
Women need to be more supportive of each other!
😂 empty words and claws come out as soon as a slightly petty girl who doesn’t make you feel absolutely delighted is in your presence❤ stop y the fakers please
Easy to say. Women are catty and so competitive.
@@zzizahacallarbecause society pits us against one another.
Good for you momma bears! Speak the truth on behalf of your girls ❤
So glad they came out!!! I knew it wasn't a problem with these girls but with the MANAGEMENT!!
Im glad these girls stepped down and the moms came forward. That was a big sacrifice on their half and for valid reasons. Itll act as fire for these organizations to get their act together. You wld think the metoo movement wld had motivated a lot of them from encouraging or even being passive to such sexual misconduct.
Yes these two stepped down but nothing will change! That's the problem! The bad people aren't prosecuted. They are just transferred and they move on...
We need protesting! .
@@ejeanroh377"bad people prosecuted"?? I'm sorry where was a crime committed in this story?
@@Tihnie- reportedly there are lawsuits and in this case, more is coming out on Thursday according to some in the know.
@@Tihniewe didn't get any information because there is an NDA in place, implying crimes were committed though. Also sexual harassment is not supposed to be allowed.
These organizations have always been sketchy. Sick.
these pagents shouldnt even exist anymore. It's 2024, how sick is it we parade little girls around??? And make that their defining career? Ugh.
Wow sure so sorry aunt 🙏😢
I would like to hear from previous winner's mothers also.
- this is the first year of Laylah Rose as CEO/president but before her was Crystal Stewart who not only had conflicts if interest but her husband s-e-x-ually harassed some contestants...sending out 🍌 videos to them and more.
Previous winner's experience will be different because Noelia and UmaSofia were the 1st titleholders under a new leadership of Layla Rose
Some mothers probably pushed their girls into these competitions, kind of like stage door mothers for children. They live their lives through their daughters. It would be interesting though, if other mothers, shared previous experiences from several years ago.
Society has come a long way. Them resigning and coming forward would be unimaginable 20 years ago. It’s why we teach consent in school, it’s why we need less economic inequality, it’s why women should be valued, and value themselves, for who they are and not what they look like.
Women are already valued. They are exempted a lot of the things that men go through.
@@PungiFungi How someone is valued in society has no correlation with what they are or aren’t exempted from. Furthermore, one has to read the entire sentence, not cherry pick phrase within it, to capture the entire context. A context which is self-evident given the story I am commenting on.
@@xx133 it certain does and do not try to deflect with word salads. Women in general listen to argue, instead of listening to understand. Since you brought up economic inequality, it will continue because women are exempted from working the dangerous and labor intensive jobs that men do,
@@PungiFungi famously, coal mining is a very lucrative profession, and white collar jobs are low paying. Right. “Women listen to argue…not understand.” (Isn’t that what you are doing now?). Anyway you are proving my point-that women need to be valued more. Thanks. 🙄
@@PungiFungi test
I am so touched that these two moms are coming together to talk about this, and are supporting each other. Being bullied is not okay!
It’s about time someone stood up to these people.
They shouldn't have even won...NOW IT's BALANCED.
I don't blame these young women at all. I support them
Thank you for sincerely speaking up. Causation and a legal obligation people. Human rights are basic. Legacies don't derserve this perpetuation which is cloaked under silence. Mahalo sincerely for speaking up!
These women have balls. Great role models for young women
Um, hate to break it to you, but females don’t have those.
@holylandfan3275 We have them on the inside 😂
@@holylandfan3275hate to break it to you. Some men, act like they don’t have them. 😂
@@variousJnames I’m female and I have courage, or faith that makes me strong, or brave, not testicles. It’s a filthy expression for men, or women.
@holylandfan3275 a lot of men. don't have them either they have testicles but no balls there is a difference!
The first red flag is having to sign an NDA for a freaking beauty pageant . What do they want to hide?🤔
Shine the light on these people! Bravo to these women! Very courageous! ✨
Wasn't it in 2019 Cheslie Kryst who killed self a miss USA pageant. A bright young beautiful girl who killed herself. After these recent claims I'm starting to draw a connection, not saying there is a correlation just saying I can't imagine that atmosphere being good for anyone's mental health.
Yes I understand she had her down demons and acknowledged that she died long before the change if management. I'm just saying that she might have had long term truama adding to the personal demons she was struggling with. Competitions in general especially those in the limelight can have very toxic atmospheres. Show business sometimes is just awful.
When she died she already passed her reign 2 years back
@@arin7981 I know I guess I mean, could there have been lasting truama from her time there. I also recognize that this girl had some demons she was struggling with.
@@watermelonieshait was different President back then .
@@emcemc7506 I'm sure. I'm not very familiar with the whole system of miss USA. Just saying maybe there could have been long term truama from her time there, I do acknowledge that girl had her own demons but competitions in general especially those in the limelight can be very very toxic.
That was under a different director. Plus Cheslie had issues before she even did Miss USA from what I understand. Her mother documented her hospitalization years before hand in her book.
I hope this is resolved so more girls won’t be hurt as well. They are all worth more than any crown or title.
This sadly happens everywhere. Harassment and bullying is not illegal in workplaces but should be. I worked for a courthouse and dealt with it all plus sexual harassment. Our union and HR were absolutely worthless. You cannot sue either, you must go through arbitration. I ended up just leaving that toxic environment. It used to be a great place to work though for quite a few years and I still talk to some of my former GOOD management that had retired and they can’t believe how bad it has gotten. 😢
Why do they keep signing NDAs!
Appreciate the show for giving them a couple minutes
Yes, I support you both all the way.. thanks for telling the truth…
Just completely get rid of beauty pagents.
Tell me you’re unattractive without telling me you’re unattractive.
I am sorry this happened to your daughters. Glad they resigned. Ever heard of the word Gaslighting. I think these girls have been gaslit.
Its about time someone talked about the truth behind beauty pageants...... They could do so much good in this world, but corruption and money has completely taken over what seems every pageant system and every international title.
Great admiration for both women for standing up for themselves and others involved with this organization by resigning and getting the message out there. Their mothers are great human beings!! The Organization says they "Make A Commitment to . . ." but saying it and actually doing it is two very different things. The Organization will never fully recover from this and perhaps that is a very positive thing.
This doesn’t just happen with beauty pageant winners. It happens in every job and level of society. As a young woman in the Air Force many years ago, I faced the same treatment. Almost every woman on earth may have a similar story, albeit ob a smaller scale.
Yep, I experienced sexual harassment at every job I held, until I worked for a feminist organization. It’s commonplace and management often looks away, even though it’s illegal by law.
Expose them all. Great job ladies.
Things are not the same as it used to . Everything changed after 2002 . The world feels different after that and after social media came out . We need change
You really don’t think men propositioned young Miss Universe girls before? Probably even more so. The only difference is that all those girls kept quiet about it.
oh for the love of god. who started these kids in these pageants to begin with???????????????????
Exactly! Then, they win a literal BEAUTY pageant and can’t handle it when men hit on them. They act so innocent and horrified!
@@173ddddthey are minors, no man should be hitting on a minor, that’s pedophilia! So sick of excusing men who are sexual predators, that’s not normal, it’s a mental illness and dangerous.
I was in a local pageant that had nothing to do with these pageants when i was in hs.
Maybe a year later the girl that won was in my class. She tpld me she knew one of the judges and had the other judges vote for her too. She received a modeling contract. She also said she didnt really like modeling anymore.
How are these pageants still a thing? They are so old fashioned and out of touch.
Agreed...a bunch of old men hitting on young girls..Toxic
Society still doesn't really value women for anything more than their looks...until that happens these exploitative "competitions" will continue happening, along with the mess they bring
They go for scholarship money and better career opportunities. Networking with wealthy business owners.
Well society still values women primarily based on their looks, until that changes these "competitions" will continue going on and so will the mess that comes with them
Not really important in countries that are developed. But I wouldn’t say old fashioned bc it teaches girls how to be well rounded individuals. U clearly don’t understand the concept. Girls from Latin American, Asia and Africa do this to help themselves. Also being beautiful is just the marketing
What sort of society honours and praises beauty against all things & all others? These pageants have always been suss, cringey and creepy. All beautiful woman & girls, and I mean all females, need to recognise and learn this sort of honour is false.
I can’t believe there are even such old fashioned things as “beauty” pageants I would hope we have evolved beyond this ridiculous parading of bodies
For people imagining about the accents of the mothers, they are from Mexico and Venezuela. So please keep respect
In Mexico and Venezuela, speaking English sounds like a foreign accent. Almost as many people in the world speak Spanish as do English!
Wow, they really went “we can’t control the rich men, but we can control your voice.”
We can’t control what they say to you, but we can control what you say about them…😮😮😮😮
Layla Rose is a Control Freak... but she cannot control abusive behaviour from others or herself on the queens...
This is the entire world of modelling and what goes on behind the scenes.
I know what its like to be bullied by a boss on the job. It takes a big toll on your mental health. I left that toxic environment but still sometimes struggle with anxiety. Bullying is NEVER ok. I support both women 1000%. Im proud of Noelia and UmaSofia for standing up for themselves.
These events exploit young women
NDAs should be void if it silences a victim.
This could be one of the final nails on pageants in this country a few yrs back similar complaints were made about the Miss America organization I think a lot of women are going to think twice before entering pageants
Maybe this generation of girls isn't putting up with the treatment that previous generations did.
Still don't know what they went through . Nothing specific. However, pursuit of that world does bring about negative people and negative situations. Which is why I never encourage my beautiful, smart daughter in that direction.
If she was sexually harassed, the NDA should be dropped immediately, it basically makes it useless
Pageants should be abolished. Girls thinking ooh I’m beautiful and I should have a crown is ridiculous. There is no need now nor ever for females to strut there stuff and say look at me. I’m better than you. Pageants tried to use scholarships as a way to deter from the fact that it is based on beauty …hence the term beauty pageants. Conceited girls thinking they’re the best based upon their appearance has always been appalling. And no I am not an ugly female who is jealous…In fact I’m an attractive intelligent woman. It is great to be confident and proud of your appearance …we all post photos of when we think we look and feel beautiful. Beauty pageants simply exploit girls/women and send the wrong message on what ideal beauty should look like. I wish these girls much success and happiness along with good health.
This type of contract agreement likely goes on in many sectors such as talent competitions too. Once you sign on the organization “owns” you and your life is out of your control. I once thought it was sad that a great talent didn’t win American Idol but I now think it’s a blessing in disguise that he didn’t because he was later able to control his own career. Thank goodness these two young women had the guts to speak out!
Oh please these moms are the problem letting their daughters entering these idiotic pagents ! Give me a break ! If you dont like the rules dont do it !
This is not about the rules, these girls (minors) were working for the Miss USA organization. They have an obligation u dear US law to provide a safe workplace for minors and adults. They didn’t, and the girls suffered. Case closed.
Why do we even still have beauty pageants? All women are beautiful. Stop setting a beauty standard for women in this day and age.
The whole pageant shit itself is ridiculous and toxic
Why don't they have a Miss Personality pageant?
If I ever have a daughter, I will never send her into these competitions. The world has drastically changed, parents should know. Part of my education will be to walk away from millions, better live peaceful than in front of cameras.
Can’t believe beauty pageants haven’t died out by now. Women are so much better than this.
These ladies are whistleblowers for the entire pageant industry.
Praying for these young ladies and their moms. Way to go!
This story is unfortunately NOT uncommon among these pageants. It is a horribly toxic and coercive organization that fosters insane demands that are not humane or decent in nature. I applaud these young women standing up for their well being and self esteem.
This is 2024 it is a BEAUTY PAGENT,,,,,,,, what do you expect !!!! We needed to shut these things down 2 decades ago.
Stop all pageants. It's marketing your daughters. Enough already.
Excellent..... so glad that stepped away from that toxic situation.....well done.
If your looking for ways to empower women and encourage them then get rid of the Beauty pageants and introduce more Leadership conferences and community out reach programs run by women as opposed to focusing on the superficial side of it and I think that is absolutely crazy that they had to sign NDAs… WTH!!
Pass time for these to end. Stop making idols.
This type of harassment happens even not being in the public eye. I know.
I'm wondering if the former Ms. Chelsie Krist went through such problems during her reign? We will never know.
You have to wonder because this is a woman that had everything going for her and maybe she was already suffering from depression but I've heard stories for years about how hard these girls are worked during their reign the pressure they're under not being protected from sexual harassment this is nothing new
@@johnfulton4061 This is just so shameful. Who knows what struggles they had before their reign.
When we encourage our children to allow society to objectify them, we encourage negative behavior towards them, indirectly.
What exceptional women! They are truly winners through and through! Not hard to understand how they won those titles in the first place! Bravo!
Never understand most tv shows aired are rushing with time so one only get couple of minutes but when you look, all reports are couple of minutes. Where are they rushing too? To not just cover a story properly. Makes no sense. Give full story
They are just seen as sexual objects but this is what these pageants promote their looks then winning is based almost entirely on looks kind of the wrong message in reality these pageants should be about who they are as a person but that’s not going to be good for ratings so it’s our society that has feed this for years I believe they used to have the Miss teen pageant with bikini walks to judge them on points. I mean what are they looking at their faces come on.
Must be bad if they're both willing to give up EVERYTHING to save their sanity. Proud of them for standing up against sexual harassment, control, and manipulation. Girls in the future will thank them!
Great job ladies for speaking up 👏👏!! Those unwanted advances are disturbing and disgusting. So sorry this happened to your gorgeous daughters 🙏🙏
Oh please. Talking about mothers who put little girls in pageant. This is a replica of the JonBenet Ramsey. Parents and pageants and children going to pageants from 3/4/5 years of age. They did NOT speak of any substance at all.
No kind of criminal activity can be bound by an NDA.
How can they hold miss teen USA to a contract as she is a minor
She could be 18/19
I hope no one signs up for Miss USA and Miss Teen USA at all as long as a NDA is required there is no reason for an NDA unless you are part of a lighting crew maybe. NDA's are meant to protect ideas that are copyrighted. This is an obvious abuse of legal tool that should be dealt with in a courtroom once and for all.
These moms want the Games to continue! They just don't want their girls working in an environment that encourages men to hit on them
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I feel that all confidentiality agreements should be illegal/unlawful in the court of law if it is on one or more people just commiting crimes,bullying,and harassing,other mental or possibly physical damages.
They should do away with all pageants completely
It should be a law that that there is no such contract. All kinds of things can happen to those girls and they have no recourse
I thought it peculiar that two pageant winners committed suicide within a relatively short period a few years ago: one, jumped off the roof of a high-rise, the other, jumped out a ten'story high window.
Moms like this are wonderful 💜
It says a lot about their character and integrity. I think this is time to expose this injustice.
Past winner Cara Mund spoke about all this as well and no one listened!!
Thank God for their Mother’s 💜
That just shows these ladies deserve the title even more. They are fighting for future successors, rights, fairness and more even without their crown.
So proud of these girls !!!!
First of all, kudos to these strong girls for fighting for their values and their own worth! These accusations have to be evaluated completely and with full transparency. The girls now and in the future as candidates and winners should always be protected and not silenced.
I think all beauty contest are ridiculous. Just be yourself girls don't give in to the pageant owners demands. The just want to make a buck off of you.
Wooow. A business that makes money on the sexualization of women’s body would be toxic? Hmm
I am so glad media is covering this, wondering what is Miss Universe doing about it
We shouldn’t even have these pageants any more
They don't want to do public appearances and engage with the public. Period. Sorry, ladies, but that's your role.
As minors, it is the organizations responsibility to protect them from sexual predators in public and private. It’s literally the law of the US!
I am so in awe of their courage and I love that they are using their voices. I'm proud of both of them.
At least they can speak out. These mothers will tell you that until recently speaking out was suicide.