I will be at the firewood frenzy in Eau Clarie tomorrow with Ken and Tony! Hopefully we will see you all there! I WILL HAVE T-SHIRTS FOR SALE AND KEN WILL HAVE SOME BEAVER HATS TOO!!!!
At 60 I bought myself a splitter. This old lady split and sold quite a few cords of wood. Now 74 I still split but have switched to using a chop saw for edger waste for my personal firewood. I have a small stove so don't need to cut/split 12" rounds...There is something about stacking wood. It's fun. I made a courtyard around my cannibal tub. All the odd waste is consumed heating it. I cut pallets in half for 2 rows wide. Cover with recycled banners, recycled portable carport tarp, even 6mil skin off a greenhouse. then a strip of used carpet for weight. A well placed rock or 2 and for an old lady it's a done deal. I'm 4 years ahead now but aiming at more before I quit. Somebody will have to take my place eventually...
Nice job Chris. Sometimes it does just feel good to work alone in your kingdom/woodyard. At the end of the day you are tired and can see the results of your creation. GNI
Chris I've spent the last few days up at our cabin cutting old deadfall. Best job I ever had. Dog running around chasing off the cows and me dragging and cutting wood. Throw it in the back of the SXS and take it to another part of the property to dump. Even giving it most of it away because it needs to be off the ground for fire mitigation.I have several cords already for stove use. This is all aspen wood nothing else on our property.
Pennies From Heaven Today I scored a pick up truckload of black walnut I found on Craigslist Free. On the way home I drove down a street a block away from our place where I have heard a chain saw running for a week. My husband talked to the homeowner and I am the new owner of limb and trunk wood from a huuuuuge locust tree.. The tree service is coming back tomorrow to buck everything to 16 inches. Already starting on 2023. Chris and the gang have fun at the show.
the other day you started to make bundles and you said you were going to give them away with full cords. great idea. I think you should attach a price to them and let less than cord purchasers buy them and that would give true value to the spiff.
Nothing finer than finishing work cracking open a couple of buds,and watching in the wood yard, can't wait to get cutting and splitting, my tree surgeon is taking couple of cherry trees down at the school I work at in six weeks time, 👍👍👍👍
Good explanation of a face cord, and certainly a more desirable term than a rick, which by definition is just a pile of wood, no connotation of how much wood it is!
Great show Chris. Thank you. It's hard to beat the white cedar we have in Maine for a nice romantic (crackling - noisy) fire in the fire pit. Me and the ex-wife use to burn quite a bit of that over the years. I got the fire pit in the divorce. 😂 LoL.
1 Cord = 128 cu ft (4x4x8). Typically each cord of firewood is stacked in three rows of 16 inch logs. A face (of a) cord is one of those rows as you look at the stack from the cut side, or the "Face" of the cord. Hence, a face cord... or 1/3rd of a cord!
I live in Maine and for many seasons over the years I harvested a very large amount of standing dead wood - mostly oak - silver wood - nearly petrified on the stump - AMAZING firewood - and I sold it by the facecord Most folks knew what that meant and were very happy someone would sell them a relatively small amount of wood I made 50/75% more per cord by selling a smaller/drier/measured stack of wood than the going rate at a 2 cord minimum of unseasoned wood Small trucks and facecords 😂 Good days Nice Stacking
Good Day Chris for all you cord size question folks you have to make a maple stack do a full cord a half cord and a face cord stack so they can see what it is a picture is worth a 100,000 time you having to explain it
That would be nice for about 2 days then new people would come to the channel and I would need to do it all over again, I have said it thousands of times yet it is confusing to a lot of people.
Good morning Chris!! That's definitely a thing of beauty!! Another session like that and you should have it licked. Keep up the great work!!😀😀👍👍 Logger Al
Hey Chris, Sorry we didn’t get together for a video, you were kind of swamped and we were getting tired, Take Care my Friend, It was great meeting you and Kenny. Blessings to you both🚜🪵👍🏼🇺🇸
I have a cord en route this week and debating both where and how I want to stack it. I used some Amazon points to purchase two metal frames for a 2x4 firewood rack. Debating on if I want to do 10foot by 5 foot or 8 foot by 5 foot I know I can fit a cord either way and then some. Ahhh decisions decisions.
a buck a split is par with natural gas but when its piped in you should use it, and keep building your wood pile. one day it wont be. and dont forget kindling. pizza boxes only last so long when everything is soaked.
G’morning Chris ! Finally, you get some work done. I jest ! Looks great. My youngest would love this one, but we are away for the 15th anniversary. Keep chuckin ! GoodNightIrene
Do you get calls for a stove cord? We usually would use 12" instead of 16 for the old pot belly and kitchen stoves up in Ontario. That makes 4 rows in a bush/full cord.
Down south (in the Memphis region), we also call it a face cord. I have always been curious, but what is the most amount of wood you have delivered in a day?
Answering the age old question. How much wood could a beaver trapper stack if a beaver trapper could stack wood? Are all those pallets free bees ? Do you go get them or are they delivered ? Last question; How many thumbs ups do you have on all of your videos , combined ? 🤔 😮
@@InTheWoodyard Im 78 and just love putting in a good firewood session. I was still splitting all my wood by hand up until 72 but aches and pains slowly but surely catch up to me and now I cheat with a hydraulic splitter. Our Aussie hardwoods are both heavy and awfully hard!
In California Chris you can't even advertise legally a face "all measurements for firewood must be in fractions of a full cord such as 1 cord, 3/4, 2/3, 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/6, 1/8, 1/16, and anything under I forget What size has to be done in cubic feet Measurement. And it's a big time fine if they catch you on it.
Yea I always like to see that fast wood stacking. My favorite part. Is it still called a facecord if the wood if 24 inches long? I wouldn't think so. but I don't know. Thus the confusion of a face cord.
Yes, but in the midwest it is standard that the pieces are 16" so then it is the same however, a face cord does not define the length so in some states you go to jail for using the 'term" face cord.
Just came to my mind: since you plan on collecting the saw dust form the processor - keep walnut chips out, because people can't use them for animal bedding, the oils are kinda toxic for animals
That is exactly correct. In log form the wood does not fit tight and you also have cuts (sawdust) and some cut offs. So a pulp cord or log cord is less wood than a firewood cord! Good question!
I seem to remember in a previous video you were stacking at face cord height so you could know easily how much wood to load. Are you using the truck/trailer now instead to measure that so you're able to stack higher?
Fat guys do firewood a lot different than skinny guys. The only time my wood ends up on the ground is when I cut the tree down. Once it's in the truck it goes on the splitter then back into truck or a trailer then over to wood pile to be stacked. Bending over, not this fat boy. But if I worked as hard as you Chris, I wouldn't be fat.
He should offer a two week fat loser retreat For $1,700.00 , He offer me the opportunity to cut ,deliver, stack, split , load and unload his fire wood. Lodging extra but healthy low cal. Nutritional meals included. Talk about ancillary income ! I'd be there , once in the spring and again in the fall
It's interesting how you use the Pigsty method of alternate stacking to provide structural integrity to the pile at critical points. When we trained for road crash rescue, we were taught to do this with 4 x 4's underneath a vehicle to provide stability/no movement, in conjunction with a thick board on top and then an airbag on top of the pigsty to lift the vehicle.
...but as the buyer you're going to get shorted. A cord is a cord is a cord. ALL of the wood is stacked, tightly, in one direction, ends only facing out. This is a prime example of why customers get upset. I wouldn't buy from this guy.
@@InTheWoodyard Just seeing this video on 2/28/23. Why the 1 crisscross stack right in the middle on the one side ? Change your mind and then put down another pallet; or just for stability sake ? Just curious, not even close to a being a criticism 😎.
7:37??? Really?? I feel almost violated 😎. If you stack much higher, you will have to notify the airport so the pilots can adjust their altitude accordingly.
Want to know what is a tough pill to swallow? Having to stay in a normal job when all you want to do is firewood. Or at least do firewood most of the time with going part-time on the day job to rest the body. I'll have to be creative on packaging and marketing, Ohio Wood Burner has some great ideas on that to maximize profits, to be able to quit working the day job full-time. Campfire sales are down but that gives me a chsnce to build inventory to really bust things loose when sales go up!
So how long did it actually take you to stack that wood cris. 🪵 you are the man. The more I read it I'm not sure what it was that you said. I'm from south jersey. I call it a face cord to
@@InTheWoodyard do you know what.I don't give a shat either. All I know is that your giving us some real life experiences that should be nice to the people who listen to you . Life is to hard to worry about every little thing. That's right. Hardly anyone responds on these sites . We will say that you are a good woodsman and thanks for the replies.
I will be at the firewood frenzy in Eau Clarie tomorrow with Ken and Tony! Hopefully we will see you all there! I WILL HAVE T-SHIRTS FOR SALE AND KEN WILL HAVE SOME BEAVER HATS TOO!!!!
At 60 I bought myself a splitter. This old lady split and sold quite a few cords of wood. Now 74 I still split but have switched to using a chop saw for edger waste for my personal firewood. I have a small stove so don't need to cut/split 12" rounds...There is something about stacking wood. It's fun. I made a courtyard around my cannibal tub. All the odd waste is consumed heating it. I cut pallets in half for 2 rows wide. Cover with recycled banners, recycled portable carport tarp, even 6mil skin off a greenhouse. then a strip of used carpet for weight. A well placed rock or 2 and for an old lady it's a done deal. I'm 4 years ahead now but aiming at more before I quit. Somebody will have to take my place eventually...
It sounds like you have a great system!!
Congratulations
High speed firewood stacking is kinda like watching Nile crocs snatching wildebeest.
Never gets old. 😂🤘🏻
Thanks!
Nice job Chris. Sometimes it does just feel good to work alone in your kingdom/woodyard. At the end of the day you are tired and can see the results of your creation. GNI
Very true!
Chris I've spent the last few days up at our cabin cutting old deadfall. Best job I ever had. Dog running around chasing off the cows and me dragging and cutting wood. Throw it in the back of the SXS and take it to another part of the property to dump. Even giving it most of it away because it needs to be off the ground for fire mitigation.I have several cords already for stove use. This is all aspen wood nothing else on our property.
Sounds like you are having fun! All wood burns!
Pennies From Heaven Today
I scored a pick up truckload of black walnut I found on Craigslist Free. On the way home I drove down a street a block away from our place where I have heard a chain saw running for a week. My husband talked to the homeowner and I am the new owner of limb and trunk wood from a huuuuuge locust tree.. The tree service is coming back tomorrow to buck everything to 16 inches. Already starting on 2023.
Chris and the gang have fun at the show.
Sounds like a great score, cut to size is awesome!
the other day you started to make bundles and you said you were going to give them away with full cords. great idea. I think you should attach a price to them and let less than cord purchasers buy them and that would give true value to the spiff.
Great idea then the customer can see how much you are giving away free.
Yup!
That was therapeutic, thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You and Brad at Firewood at the Furnace are absolute stacking guru's. I can't get a strait stack to save my life Chris. Lmao.
Off of the ground is all that matters, it all turns to ashes anyway!
Nothing finer than finishing work cracking open a couple of buds,and watching in the wood yard, can't wait to get cutting and splitting, my tree surgeon is taking couple of cherry trees down at the school I work at in six weeks time, 👍👍👍👍
That sounds good, are you getting the trees??
Good morning Chris. Now I will say one thing when you set your mind to stack wood you do it fast !!!! Lol Until next time have a great day!!
Yup, I like to get it done!
Good explanation of a face cord, and certainly a more desirable term than a rick, which by definition is just a pile of wood, no connotation of how much wood it is!
Yes every region has it's own ways!
I had never heard it called a face cord until I started watching TH-cam. In my area of the south we call it a “Rick”.
Yup, a RICK is common I the south, I never heard of it untill I started doing videos on youtube and people used the word rick.
Great show Chris. Thank you.
It's hard to beat the white cedar we have in Maine for a nice romantic (crackling - noisy) fire in the fire pit. Me and the ex-wife use to burn quite a bit of that over the years. I got the fire pit in the divorce. 😂 LoL.
Thanks so much for watching, sounds like you can out ahead on the deal!
1 Cord = 128 cu ft (4x4x8). Typically each cord of firewood is stacked in three rows of 16 inch logs. A face (of a) cord is one of those rows as you look at the stack from the cut side, or the "Face" of the cord. Hence, a face cord... or 1/3rd of a cord!
Yup, exactly!
The only thing I have planned Tomorrow is to be Watching the the Firewood Frenzy..So Have fun and most importantly Travel safely..
I will be there with Tony and Ken, it will be fun!
@@InTheWoodyard : I have no doubt it will be fun., too bad I couldn't afford it this year. Oh well I can start planning for next year now.
I live in Maine and for many seasons over the years I harvested a very large amount of standing dead wood - mostly oak - silver wood - nearly petrified on the stump - AMAZING firewood - and I sold it by the facecord
Most folks knew what that meant and were very happy someone would sell them a relatively small amount of wood
I made 50/75% more per cord by selling a smaller/drier/measured stack of wood than the going rate at a 2 cord minimum of unseasoned wood
Small trucks and facecords 😂
Good days
Nice Stacking
Yup, most of my customers want 1-2 face cords and they want it dry and they want it small.
Good Day Chris for all you cord size question folks you have to make a maple stack do a full cord a half cord and a face cord stack so they can see what it is a picture is worth a 100,000 time you having to explain it
now im not sure where i was going when i typed maple. but i guess that worls. lol
That would be nice for about 2 days then new people would come to the channel and I would need to do it all over again, I have said it thousands of times yet it is confusing to a lot of people.
Face cord, fireplace cord, stove cord, rick..... it's all the same just depends where ya come from!
Yup, pretty much!
Good morning Chris!!
That's definitely a thing of beauty!!
Another session like that and you should have it licked.
Keep up the great work!!😀😀👍👍
Logger Al
Yes it is! I have a lot more stacking to do!
Hey Chris, Sorry we didn’t get together for a video, you were kind of swamped and we were getting tired, Take Care my Friend, It was great meeting you and Kenny. Blessings to you both🚜🪵👍🏼🇺🇸
I understand Thanks Larry!
Great piece of music ! Well done!!!
I put it in there just for you Cynthia!
“A thing of beauty” for sure! Nice job on the stackin Chris. 👍🏻👍🏻GNI
Thanks 👍
Loved the way you had that ray of sunshine coming through the middle of the screen. And then just watched it slowly disappear. Great photography work.
Thanks for watching Brian!
Sounds like this should be on a t shirt “I can feel myself getting fat” Time to get outside and chuck some wood! 🔥 🪵
Yup, it would be a little too true most of the time!
I have a cord en route this week and debating both where and how I want to stack it.
I used some Amazon points to purchase two metal frames for a 2x4 firewood rack. Debating on if I want to do 10foot by 5 foot or 8 foot by 5 foot I know I can fit a cord either way and then some.
Ahhh decisions decisions.
Stacking high can get tippy and wide can take up a lot of space, good luck.
@@InTheWoodyard. Thanks for the tips! Goodnight Irene!
a buck a split is par with natural gas but when its piped in you should use it, and keep building your wood pile.
one day it wont be. and dont forget kindling. pizza boxes only last so long when everything is soaked.
ok
G’morning Chris ! Finally, you get some work done. I jest ! Looks great. My youngest would love this one, but we are away for the 15th anniversary. Keep chuckin !
GoodNightIrene
Morning! Have a good time with your wife, congrats on 15 years, you only need 22 more to catch up to us!
That is awesome ! Congrats
Have a great time this weekend and be safe!👍👍
Thanks!
Do you get calls for a stove cord? We usually would use 12" instead of 16 for the old pot belly and kitchen stoves up in Ontario. That makes 4 rows in a bush/full cord.
Not much but I have had a few over the years.
Good Morning Sir!! Great stacking. Learning more from your channel each day. Have a Safe Day
Good morning! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing Chris 👍
My pleasure!!
Today is a good day to let some wood dry
Yes it is! Every day in the wood yard is a good day!
really such a nice guitar song too wow gotta shazam that
Thanks for watching!
Two quick questions Chris,
1 will you be at Firewood Frenzy ?
2 will it be running on Sunday as well or just Saturday ?
Yes I will, just Saturday.
Down south (in the Memphis region), we also call it a face cord. I have always been curious, but what is the most amount of wood you have delivered in a day?
18 FACE CORDS!!!
Good morning Chris it's a great day.
It sure is, just like every other day in the wood yard!
Nice stacks Christopher
Thanks Noah!
Answering the age old question.
How much wood could a beaver trapper stack if a beaver trapper could stack wood?
Are all those pallets free bees ? Do you go get them or are they delivered ?
Last question;
How many thumbs ups do you have on all of your videos , combined ? 🤔
😮
all of it.
100% free
picked up by me.
same as the first, all of them...I have no idea.
love your vid cant wait for more
Thanks, then go to my channel there is over 700 videos there waiting for you to watch!
mornin Chris good job on the stacking
Good morning Tom! Thanks!
Hey Chris, been meaning to ask you if you have had any trouble with the middle row drying/ seasoning when you go 3 rows wide .
No, not at all, I have even gone as wide as 5 rows and everything has dried fine.
Good morning everyone
Hello Mr. Bentwedge
It really is mind blowing how much physical labor our bodies can accomplish in our lifetime.
Yup, just keep moving!
@@InTheWoodyard Im 78 and just love putting in a good firewood session. I was still splitting all my wood by hand up until 72 but aches and pains slowly but surely catch up to me and now I cheat with a hydraulic splitter. Our Aussie hardwoods are both heavy and awfully hard!
In California Chris you can't even advertise legally a face "all measurements for firewood must be in fractions of a full cord such as 1 cord, 3/4, 2/3, 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/6, 1/8, 1/16, and anything under I forget What size has to be done in cubic feet Measurement. And it's a big time fine if they catch you on it.
Yet another reason to not live in the Kalifornication communist country!
@@InTheWoodyard that's for sure
Hello from Chicago! Are you worried that stacking that high will lead to the stacks falling in high wind situations? Definitely a space savor!
No, wind will not bother them at all. They are solid.
Yea I always like to see that fast wood stacking. My favorite part. Is it still called a facecord if the wood if 24 inches long? I wouldn't think so. but I don't know. Thus the confusion of a face cord.
Yes, but in the midwest it is standard that the pieces are 16" so then it is the same however, a face cord does not define the length so in some states you go to jail for using the 'term" face cord.
as a beginner i was looking for a how to stack and i think i got the jist but holler if you got any tips :)
It is a 3D jig saw puzzle...just do it! Make sure your base is solid (off the ground of course) and not to high!
Just came to my mind: since you plan on collecting the saw dust form the processor - keep walnut chips out, because people can't use them for animal bedding, the oils are kinda toxic for animals
Really I did know that.. that's nice to know, Thanks for the tip..
Yup, that will not be a problem, no walnut here!
Don't want it in compost either.
Congrats on 20 K subscribers. Cheers
Thank you very much!
Nice job.
The keyboard can really get monotanous at times.
Sometimes I wish I had never heard of Pro Tools or Sony Final Cut Pro. Lol
Very true!
There’s more to stack tomorrow 😀🇦🇺
Yup, always!
I got some White Oak wood today for free today from a tree service...Score ! Time to start cutting
Nice, yup, get busy!
U’ll really screw some people up if you call a facecord a rick lol
Yup, maybe I'll just call it wood.
If 4'X8'X16" is a face cord or 1/3 of a cord, how is it if I start out with a truck cord 4X4X8 I end up with closer to 2 1/2 face cords? LOL
That is exactly correct. In log form the wood does not fit tight and you also have cuts (sawdust) and some cut offs. So a pulp cord or log cord is less wood than a firewood cord! Good question!
@@InTheWoodyard I have not logged in 30 years but back in the day 4X4X8 was not 8' or 96 inches pulpwood was cut at 100"
I seem to remember in a previous video you were stacking at face cord height so you could know easily how much wood to load. Are you using the truck/trailer now instead to measure that so you're able to stack higher?
and immediately after typing this you explained your measurement process lol!
Yes, some times that is what I do! Good question!
No worries!
Fat guys do firewood a lot different than skinny guys. The only time my wood ends up on the ground is when I cut the tree down. Once it's in the truck it goes on the splitter then back into truck or a trailer then over to wood pile to be stacked. Bending over, not this fat boy. But if I worked as hard as you Chris, I wouldn't be fat.
He should offer a two week fat loser retreat
For $1,700.00 , He offer me the opportunity to cut ,deliver, stack, split , load and unload his fire wood. Lodging extra but healthy low cal. Nutritional meals included.
Talk about ancillary income !
I'd be there , once in the spring and again in the fall
Yup, firewood for me is my gym, kinda like yoga!
Shouldn't you lv room between rows, for air
Some space does help but ot will still dry. sun and wind still work.
If you weren't mucking around you probably could have got that done in under 5 minutes ;)
I didn't think that you were stacking high any longer.
I do in some areas to save space.
Your a titan wow!!!!!!
Thanks for watching!
Hey Chris you got to get with Eastman and make a wedge design for the m22 so you dont have to resplit
They make a 12 and a 16 way wedge.
@@InTheWoodyard I have often wondered if a box wedge could be incorporated into it?
@@InTheWoodyard
A one level box wedge 4 wide making sticks 2" x 3" would be perfect
It's interesting how you use the Pigsty method of alternate stacking to provide structural integrity to the pile at critical points. When we trained for road crash rescue, we were taught to do this with 4 x 4's underneath a vehicle to provide stability/no movement, in conjunction with a thick board on top and then an airbag on top of the pigsty to lift the vehicle.
Thanks. It works.
...but as the buyer you're going to get shorted. A cord is a cord is a cord. ALL of the wood is stacked, tightly, in one direction, ends only facing out. This is a prime example of why customers get upset. I wouldn't buy from this guy.
That's pretty tall pyle ! Hope it stays up .
It will, I built it like a brick turd shack.
@@InTheWoodyard Just seeing this video on 2/28/23. Why the 1 crisscross stack right in the middle on the one side ?
Change your mind and then put down another pallet; or just for stability sake ? Just curious, not even close to a being a criticism 😎.
good stuff! thanks. I subscribed
Thanks Boat man!
Bet you’re glad you don’t stack wood like that anymore!👍👍🇺🇸
Yup!!!
That sure was more than 5min.Maybe 5 in fast foreward.
Yup, that is correct.
Getter done ✔
Yup, done is good!
Nice music
Thanks!
7:37??? Really?? I feel almost violated 😎. If you stack much higher, you will have to notify the airport so the pilots can adjust their altitude accordingly.
They can't all be long others will get jealous!
@@InTheWoodyard 😂
Two more weeks of stacking you'll have it all done! GNI
Come on Mike, you know very well the stacking will NEVER be done!
👍👍👍👍👍 твой друг из России 🤝
Thanks for watching Arni!
It’s as if you’re building a new covenant with God.
Yup, every day!
👍👍👍
Thanks again Larry!
Can’t we just leave in a pile? 🤔
Yup, now I put it in big bins, that was almost 2 years ago.
👍👍
Thanks Bill!
Chris just think, if you could go that fast in real time, you would be a machine. Keep on cutting
That WAS real time! HA!
The man Chris must have one of the best backs of all time.
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Thanks Tony!
What a short one😉
Yup they can't all be long others would get jealous!
🤘
Thanks Mr. B!
Want to know what is a tough pill to swallow? Having to stay in a normal job when all you want to do is firewood. Or at least do firewood most of the time with going part-time on the day job to rest the body. I'll have to be creative on packaging and marketing, Ohio Wood Burner has some great ideas on that to maximize profits, to be able to quit working the day job full-time. Campfire sales are down but that gives me a chsnce to build inventory to really bust things loose when sales go up!
Keep your day job, it's steady pay with insurance.
Then you 5 year grand son / daughter can be crushed while playing on it when you are not watching !
Maybe don't let them out and on it???
How is this instructive?
I am sorry, did I say this was instructive?? Entertaining?? Just fun maybe.
👍🇺🇸
Thanks!
your poor back, PT can help you lift correctly!
My back is great. I lift just fine doc.
😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Thanks Cody!
Joes permium firewood in michagian calls 6 foot pick up truck load Joe Cord
Yes he does.
In metric, a cord would be 1.2 m x 1.2 m x 2.4 m
3.456 m³
🇨🇦🏒🇨🇦
Okay, if you say so!
@@InTheWoodyard Yea this guy must not be from around hear? LOL Thank you Jim. Where everyever your from.
So how long did it actually take you to stack that wood cris. 🪵 you are the man. The more I read it I'm not sure what it was that you said. I'm from south jersey. I call it a face cord to
Sorry, but I do not remember that was a while ago but I would guess 2-3 hours or so??
@@InTheWoodyard do you know what.I don't give a shat either. All I know is that your giving us some real life experiences that should be nice to the people who listen to you . Life is to hard to worry about every little thing. That's right. Hardly anyone responds on these sites . We will say that you are a good woodsman and thanks for the replies.