Chris the processor is a great tool for the right size wood. I think for what you do the Axis is a better splitter. You have complete control of the size and there is little to no wasted wood. Yes you will need to buck up your logs, but I think it’s a better choice.
Mount Shardmore :) Paul Harvey would love The Final Approach Woodyard No matter which direction you choose there is always THE REST OF THE STORY. It's good that you show us both perspectives of your operation. Not everyone does that in their woodyard videos.
Morning. Chris I’d suggest the extra debris may be due to the dryness of wood, fresh may result differently. The re-splits I’d say was due to thin logs and some ugly pieces. I was going to ask do you still need to remove trees from that property you where at before ( not the last tree removal) prior, you had to clean it up cut trees out. I know Tony does it next door. That axe and cleaver video would be nice to share on the “Tony Cool Tools” channel😀🇦🇺
Good morning Chris I noticed at the end of the video you had a lot of debris from the 12 way splitter I’ve had three different machines with box wedges and they all produce a lot of debris it seems they beat the water up too much that’s why I bought the axis let’s debris less work. Keep up the good work Chris I enjoy it with my tea in the morning
I suspect with more seat time on the MB22, you'll get a feel for where to position the wedge for each size of log to minimize odd sizes and debris. Either that or it's time to start saving your nickels for an Eastonmade Disc Cleaner. 😜
@@InTheWoodyard well we were talking about the length of bars having a good discussion. I use this size another guy says I use this size. One guy said I walked into the wall and I had a hard on and I broke my nose.
Hey Chris. If you speed up the conveyor it should toss the wood that extra two feet to hit the front of the trailer. Then you can dial it down to just fall off the end later.
That was my suggestion also. Any update on the beaver hats? I have been patiently waiting by my inbox and nothing as of yet. Did I miss an email from you? Thanks.
Not sure if you done this before, I see you just make huge piles and sell by trailer load etc etc, A guy like me who is small time has 3 one cord wood sheds, and 2 sheds at 1.25 cords ea. And then I have 10 racks out in the yard at 1/4 cord size with a wire tie at the 4 ft mark. Always split and overfill them in the winter to early spring and notice by August that the piles shrink quite a bit, (especially oak). Which ya know I make extra wood to refill em up to the top level again. What I'm getting at is maybe a guy like you that has many different species could make a video with the different species comparison for the pile shrinkage, percentage and all that. Have like a face cord of each split green, 4x8, all lined up and then after seasoning and settling measure and compare. Just an idea. Would be a cool experiment. Compare oak to pine to maple to cherry to ash. Could be some wood science class lol
What about lowering the front jack all the way down on the trailer so when the wood comes off the conveyor it slides forward a bit. Maybe this would help fill more of that front section.
Nice video Chris. I was sadly not prepared for the amount of debris in that load or the amount of re-splits. I can feel your frustration with automated processing, but do really like the stacking from the trailer. GNI
i like Easton made and Andrews seems to be a top bloke , but Multitech seems more polished with their hydraulic 8/16 way box , having said that the Easton made will still be almost as good as new in 20 years
The 6-way wedge on my processor still makes a lot of debris. Trying to get the wedge positioned just right for each log takes extra time and still you get debris. Better than doing it by hand though and I've found a use for my debris. It seems like most of the logs I get are full of knots. Knots are the bane of my life. Always getting jammed on the wedge and they will disintegrate into a huge mess of debris.
Please don't throw in towel on 12 way just yet. I noticed immediately when you started stacking just how much nicer the sizes were,when stacked on previously split wood. I would play with the height setting on processor some more and different species may do better also. I have also noticed that just 1 piece gets jammed or whopper jawed in the wedge and it really starts to making debris. The more ways a wedge is the better chance of this happening. I know you are trying to hurry when processing but maybe taking the time to unjamb as needed would help alot with debris? Have a great weekend and thanks for all 800 videos!👍
Hello Chris, when it comes to a wedge my go to is the basic 4-way understanding that works with a splitter as you can re-split till the desired piece is acquired. And not so for a processor. Not sure there is a solution for debris when it comes to fast processing equipment. 👌🏻🔥🇨🇦
Am sure you will figure it out Chris but as a lot of people have commented, there seems to be quite a bit more waste with the 12 way and also I think the processor doesn’t really handle splitting the small sticks very well as the bed design doesn’t help the stick to keep centred on the wedge. Stacking from the trailer is a big win. Great work as usual. When are the other cut piles scheduled to get stacked?
Good morning Chris. Looking at all the debris makes me think there must be a market for it. There looks like some decent stuff still in there that's not worth your while and time sorting it out. Would it burn in an outdoor wood boiler, after all it's wood chips, not much different to biomass we use in the UK. 80 dollars a trailer load (collected not delivered of course) You'd then be making a few bucks on what is essentially a waste product. Sure in these cash strapped times, someone's going to be looking for a budget fuel source to heat their home through the winter. Keep safe, keep cutting. Paul
I like all that debris. I keep all that and use it for kindling. I have some 50 gallon barrels I fill up wit at the splitter. At least the better stuff the rest gets dumped on my burn pile.
Nice job stacking and video👏🏻. Unfortunately bigger is not the most efficient sometimes and from this old viewers eyes the single blade splitting is entertaining, that’s easy for me to say from side of the lens? Keep up the great videos🇺🇸👍🏻👏🏻.
The 12 way likes consistent size wood like 12-16 inches. When you have small wood you will have a lot of debris. There’s a reason Multitek has a patent on 16 way wedge. I just got my new 2040 electric and you get a little more debris but zero resplits
If you speed up the elevator it may throw the wood clear to the front. A straight back in is easier on your trailer tires plus you can see all the wood in the load.
You should get ahold of the folks at Easton made and see if they make a turbo conveyor. You can take the trailer right out of the equation and just launch the wood right to where you want to stack it. And you can have ken catching the pieces and he can stack as you go 🤣
Disappointment in your voice of the 12 way was noticeable. I believe you keep working with it, debri may decrease. Who tried to sabotage the trailer with a Stihl hat???🤣🤣🤣 Have a Safe Day
Awesome videos you produce Chris. Seeing your video on the 12 way wedge I seen immediately your issue with the increased debris. There were moments showing a log going through the splitter that was was just the right size that the middle of the wedge was taking 1/2 to 1 inch off the top of the logs. That would amount to alot of extra debris. Possibly try lifting the wedge up a few inches for the medium logs, and back down for the largest
@@InTheWoodyard absolutely! I had just watched eastonmades video the other day with their 12 way and the moster beech logs. Definitely larger and straighter helps. Look forward to more videos
I wonder whether that debris would be suitable to make charcoal. The Chinese make some decent charcoal production machines for $5-10k, cheaper ones for $3k. Did you ever considered that as a possible sales channel?
When I split a 14ft trailer load I only get half a wheelbarrow load of debris left at the end after I get everything stacked. Processor just crushes more wood than splitting rounds with a single wedge. But time is $. Whatever is faster usually is better. Gotta split the wood faster than u sell it so u have dry inventory
Hey. Doesn't Eastonmade have a size/ junk drum style sorting machine to separate the small stuff? Other manufacturers have a size deflector at the top of the conveyor. It sorts out the small stuff and drops it in to a different pile rather than the trailer. See: Mike at Outdoor with the Morgans
I wonder if Andrew is going to make a trash pan for the elevator. For sorting out of the trailer. I don't know how you would use it yourself or sell it. I think woldridge has a trash gate
Yeah Chris if you did want to go that way you could just feed your outfeed elevator up a little bit and it would throw it off the elevator a little bit rather than just drop it at the end and then when you're the way that you do by pushing it the man sideways want to get so high you could just do that to push it frontwards to all the personal preference and you're the guy that's doing it
Great video, was surprised how much you had to split again , would a box type wedge work better or just bigger logs. Keep going to get your stock up for winter.
If you’re gonna have to resplit then toss the splits into the trusty rusty wheelbarrow. Keep those splits off the ground! You might have to get another wheelbarrow! I would fill four wheelbarrows before I started pickin ‘‘em up off the ground.
Are you sure you had a trailer without debris when you started? I thought in the previous video of stacking (few video's ago) you left the debris in and parked the trailer under the processor, so it would explain twice the debris. No doubt you have already used the 12 way again, was the amount of debris just as big as this load? At around 3:50 it also looks like there is already a pile of debris while there's little wood gone from the trailer
There was a little but I have run it a few time since this video and with small wood there is even more debris, so the answer is better and bigger wood.
So the giant loaded question is... Does the processor do enough to justify itself, by itself? Without piling the wood with a huge conveyor it looks like it's a save some time to loose a little product, compared to your usual setup. Would the quality go up if you just used processor to buck and quarter and hit everything with the splitter as a main plan? Or, is there a box wedge for the processor?
Is wedge height easy enough to adjust when you start a new log? There has to be a way to minimize the re-splits. re-work with such an expensive machine is crazy.
Can you increase your conveyor belt speed to fill the very front of the trailer then reduce speed to fill the middle? You'd only need to pull fwd once doing it that way.
That amount of junk reminds me of running a box wedge type splitter. But could also be related to type of tree species and/or age since fallen, and less the 12 way. 0.01c
Nice stacking of the Maple and Respiting can be a pain in the arse, it cost you time and money, what matters you your fire wood collection is increasing day by day, the processor saved you using 3 saws cutting logs in the heat,
I think it's hard to have the perfect wedge set up From what I have seen and have learned from running a timberwolf TW6 splitter with a 6, 4, or a single wedge. I've never own or ran a processor so I'm just going off my opinion which means nothing I think it's just too many variables with the wood on size, how many knots are in it to pick a perfect wedge.
Hi. I just wanted to say that I'm fairly surprised at the size of the pieces and that your customers want or will accept. Watching you resplit the "bigger ones" into basically kindling almost seems counterproductive. Some of it needed to be split, but overall the pieces look small to me, you're splitting nice pieces twice and three times. The more you split, the more volume there, is, but people don't want to buy air in New England and are fairly aware of the tiny split wood deliveries. Your stacking method with the trailer is a great idea for sure. But again, all those tiny pieces of wood need to be stacked and handled. It's all a lot of work. Nice job though and I guess you know your customers. Maybe the customers don't know any better, because everybody does it that way? Not sure.
My customers are NOT buying wood for heating in a boiler or big wood stove, most people burn wood in a fireplace or high efficiency wood stove and they do not fit big wood plus they like flames to watch while drinking beer. They are a different customer NOT heating people.
@@InTheWoodyard Understood, however the same applies. There's a difference between match stick firewood and giant unwieldy 1/2 split logs. Somewhere in the middle is where you want to be. Tiny pieces requires more fire maintenance as well. JMO. Have a great day!
I know the processer is easier for your back but I think you get more wood and better pieces with regular splitter all in all its hard work and one day your gonna give out lol I just watched joes premium firewood he’s all battered up and pretty lazy lol compared to you lol keep up the good work your like family to me now I watch your videos every day lol
I am still surprised that your customers prefer wood that small. To me that is just one step above kindling, you get a sharp edge on one of those little pieces you could light that with two matches directly. I am not in any way suggesting you don't know your customers, not at all.
They are burning in a fire place for fun not heating for 90% of them and the 10% that are heating have high efficiency small stoves and fireplace inserts. I have only a few boiler people.
Hi Chris. That is very disappointing. How did so many about 30% of the smaller ones get through without being touched.? Have You compared the performance of the Eastonmade with the same sized Japa. There is a market for yours if You decided to swap to one of those if they make more wood and less rubbish. I would be VERY disappointed with that result. Perhaps look at the video and see where the problem lies. Best Wishes. David in Oz. Edit. I just saw the end of this vid, Chris. isn`t there a speed control on the conveyor. bump the speed and it may land the wood in the front of the trailer, otherwise raise the end of the conveyor and get under further. regards. David.
Hey Chris Another AWESOME video! When I was watching you split with the 12 way the other day I didn't leave a comment! So today my comment is more for that day. I am surprised at how much wood you had to re-split. I thought the 12 way was splitting alot of smaller stuff, which you found out today with all the debris in the trailer. My main comment is about the processor! It seems o me that your chair is too low, you are always craning your neck to see into the wedge area & your legs don't look comfortable! Can the control table be raised up so that you can raise your seat up more?? Maybe a redesign by Eastonmade is possible? Again Chris keep up with the great work ethic and awesome videos! GNI
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I noticed a Stihl hat proudly displayed on your trailer at one point!
That was a rag. Haaaa!
🤘 I have never bought logs before, but some guy on TH-cam told me this is the way! 2 truckloads delivered this week! Time to do work!..
Congrats! Have fun!!!!
Why am I watching this?! 😁 That splitter was mesmerising! Watching from Australia (for some reason!) 👍
Thanks, you are now part of the firewood cult!
@@InTheWoodyard Oh no! They all start off so innocently…! 🤣🤣!!
Chris the processor is a great tool for the right size wood. I think for what you do the Axis is a better splitter. You have complete control of the size and there is little to no wasted wood. Yes you will need to buck up your logs, but I think it’s a better choice.
Yes but my body and my production manager likes the processor!
Great content and flow. Stihl hat keeping sun off of camera is multifunctional.
GREAT effort. The stacks look beautiful.
Thanks!!
Mount Shardmore
:)
Paul Harvey would love The Final Approach Woodyard
No matter which direction you choose there is always
THE REST OF THE STORY.
It's good that you show us both perspectives of your operation.
Not everyone does that in their woodyard videos.
Yup, REAL wood yards are messy sometimes and everything is not perfect , especially ....ME!
Since watching your channel this is how i now unload after splitting!!! Huge back and time saver than stacking from a pile!!!
Great to hear!
Chris wouldn’t it be easier if you were sitting in a lawn chair, eating a brat, watching someone else stack it?🤣 Good stuff as always Sir Chris!👊🏻GNI
Yup, come on up and I'll watch you to be sure it works good!
Morning. Chris
I’d suggest the extra debris may be due to the dryness of wood, fresh may result differently.
The re-splits I’d say was due to thin logs and some ugly pieces.
I was going to ask do you still need to remove trees from that property you where at before ( not the last tree removal) prior, you had to clean it up cut trees out.
I know Tony does it next door.
That axe and cleaver video would be nice to share on the “Tony Cool Tools” channel😀🇦🇺
Maybe so on the dryish wood???
Good morning Chris I noticed at the end of the video you had a lot of debris from the 12 way splitter I’ve had three different machines with box wedges and they all produce a lot of debris it seems they beat the water up too much that’s why I bought the axis let’s debris less work. Keep up the good work Chris I enjoy it with my tea in the morning
Thanks for sharing!
I suspect with more seat time on the MB22, you'll get a feel for where to position the wedge for each size of log to minimize odd sizes and debris. Either that or it's time to start saving your nickels for an Eastonmade Disc Cleaner. 😜
Yup, maybe so!
Good morning everyone
Hello Sir Stanley!
@@InTheWoodyard well we were talking about the length of bars having a good discussion. I use this size another guy says I use this size. One guy said I walked into the wall and I had a hard on and I broke my nose.
Hey Chris. If you speed up the conveyor it should toss the wood that extra two feet to hit the front of the trailer. Then you can dial it down to just fall off the end later.
Maybe so!
That was my suggestion also. Any update on the beaver hats? I have been patiently waiting by my inbox and nothing as of yet. Did I miss an email from you? Thanks.
Not sure if you done this before, I see you just make huge piles and sell by trailer load etc etc,
A guy like me who is small time has 3 one cord wood sheds, and 2 sheds at 1.25 cords ea. And then I have 10 racks out in the yard at 1/4 cord size with a wire tie at the 4 ft mark.
Always split and overfill them in the winter to early spring and notice by August that the piles shrink quite a bit, (especially oak). Which ya know I make extra wood to refill em up to the top level again.
What I'm getting at is maybe a guy like you that has many different species could make a video with the different species comparison for the pile shrinkage, percentage and all that. Have like a face cord of each split green, 4x8, all lined up and then after seasoning and settling measure and compare.
Just an idea. Would be a cool experiment. Compare oak to pine to maple to cherry to ash.
Could be some wood science class lol
I usually stack the wood to 52" to allow for shrinkage.
Seems like for every advantage there's a disadvantage . True for everything in life !😁
Yup, unintended consequences.
I'm mentally ready to get to work today, coffee in hand. LOL! I said, "Mentally."
Ha! Get after it!
Super ace driver like you could back the trailer down and dump it in the landfill?
Nope too tight and corners.
What about lowering the front jack all the way down on the trailer so when the wood comes off the conveyor it slides forward a bit. Maybe this would help fill more of that front section.
Nope, that would not make the wood slide, it is not that steep.
Nice video Chris. I was sadly not prepared for the amount of debris in that load or the amount of re-splits. I can feel your frustration with automated processing, but do really like the stacking from the trailer. GNI
Great point, Thanks Larry!!!!!
i like Easton made and Andrews seems to be a top bloke , but Multitech seems more polished with their hydraulic 8/16 way box , having said that the Easton made will still be almost as good as new in 20 years
Maybe so!
Good morning Chris!!😀😀
Morning Sir Al!
The 6-way wedge on my processor still makes a lot of debris. Trying to get the wedge positioned just right for each log takes extra time and still you get debris. Better than doing it by hand though and I've found a use for my debris. It seems like most of the logs I get are full of knots. Knots are the bane of my life. Always getting jammed on the wedge and they will disintegrate into a huge mess of debris.
Yup, I agree...knots are bad juju!
Can you adjust the speed of the conveyor or is it just one speed?
It is very adjustable!
Please don't throw in towel on 12 way just yet. I noticed immediately when you started stacking just how much nicer the sizes were,when stacked on previously split wood. I would play with the height setting on processor some more and different species may do better also. I have also noticed that just 1 piece gets jammed or whopper jawed in the wedge and it really starts to making debris. The more ways a wedge is the better chance of this happening. I know you are trying to hurry when processing but maybe taking the time to unjamb as needed would help alot with debris? Have a great weekend and thanks for all 800 videos!👍
Yup, good size mostly but the debris needs to be sold some how.
Hello Chris, when it comes to a wedge my go to is the basic 4-way understanding that works with a splitter as you can re-split till the desired piece is acquired. And not so for a processor. Not sure there is a solution for debris when it comes to fast processing equipment. 👌🏻🔥🇨🇦
Yup, I agree!
Am sure you will figure it out Chris but as a lot of people have commented, there seems to be quite a bit more waste with the 12 way and also I think the processor doesn’t really handle splitting the small sticks very well as the bed design doesn’t help the stick to keep centred on the wedge. Stacking from the trailer is a big win. Great work as usual. When are the other cut piles scheduled to get stacked?
As soon as possible!
Good morning Chris.
Looking at all the debris makes me think there must be a market for it. There looks like some decent stuff still in there that's not worth your while and time sorting it out.
Would it burn in an outdoor wood boiler, after all it's wood chips, not much different to biomass we use in the UK.
80 dollars a trailer load (collected not delivered of course)
You'd then be making a few bucks on what is essentially a waste product.
Sure in these cash strapped times, someone's going to be looking for a budget fuel source to heat their home through the winter.
Keep safe, keep cutting. Paul
I might bag it up for selling???
I like all that debris. I keep all that and use it for kindling. I have some 50 gallon barrels I fill up wit at the splitter. At least the better stuff the rest gets dumped on my burn pile.
I plan on getting some bags for it soon!
Would really like to see some monster rounds go through the 12 way. Another great video!
Coming soon!
Nice job stacking and video👏🏻. Unfortunately bigger is not the most efficient sometimes and from this old viewers eyes the single blade splitting is entertaining, that’s easy for me to say from side of the lens? Keep up the great videos🇺🇸👍🏻👏🏻.
I need better wood!
The 12 way likes consistent size wood like 12-16 inches. When you have small wood you will have a lot of debris. There’s a reason Multitek has a patent on 16 way wedge. I just got my new 2040 electric and you get a little more debris but zero resplits
Yup, better wood is the key!
If you speed up the elevator it may throw the wood clear to the front. A straight back in is easier on your trailer tires plus you can see all the wood in the load.
Yup, maybe so.
You should get ahold of the folks at Easton made and see if they make a turbo conveyor. You can take the trailer right out of the equation and just launch the wood right to where you want to stack it. And you can have ken catching the pieces and he can stack as you go 🤣
HA! I like it!
Disappointment in your voice of the 12 way was noticeable. I believe you keep working with it, debri may decrease. Who tried to sabotage the trailer with a Stihl hat???🤣🤣🤣 Have a Safe Day
That Stihl hat was a rag for spilled oil. Ha!
Chris what brand are the camera tripods?? one of them looks to be an older sprinkler style that you modified..
The main I use 90% of the time is a Gitzo, Italian, very expensive but fantastic.
Looks like you should Crank up the speed of the processors ( wood chucker ) & it could ( Chuck-it ) as far as a wood chucker could . 😊
Great idea!
Awesome videos you produce Chris. Seeing your video on the 12 way wedge I seen immediately your issue with the increased debris. There were moments showing a log going through the splitter that was was just the right size that the middle of the wedge was taking 1/2 to 1 inch off the top of the logs. That would amount to alot of extra debris. Possibly try lifting the wedge up a few inches for the medium logs, and back down for the largest
Yup, that is a part of it and better wood is the main thing I think....straighter and uniform size which is had to come by!
@@InTheWoodyard absolutely! I had just watched eastonmades video the other day with their 12 way and the moster beech logs. Definitely larger and straighter helps. Look forward to more videos
G’morning Chris ! The youshoulda’s will be crying. You shoulda worked a little harder. HAHA. Jolly good show today Mate !
GoodNightIrene
I shoulda been better looking and stronger too!
speed the conveyor up so it throws it a bit further away to start with.
Yup!
I wonder whether that debris would be suitable to make charcoal. The Chinese make some decent charcoal production machines for $5-10k, cheaper ones for $3k. Did you ever considered that as a possible sales channel?
Only is God gives me another hand full of hours every day, mine are all used up!
When I split a 14ft trailer load I only get half a wheelbarrow load of debris left at the end after I get everything stacked. Processor just crushes more wood than splitting rounds with a single wedge. But time is $. Whatever is faster usually is better. Gotta split the wood faster than u sell it so u have dry inventory
Yup, all good points!
Hey. Doesn't Eastonmade have a size/ junk drum style sorting machine to separate the small stuff?
Other manufacturers have a size deflector at the top of the conveyor. It sorts out the small stuff and drops it in to a different pile rather than the trailer.
See: Mike at Outdoor with the Morgans
Yes they do make one.
from my obsevation , sitting 12,000 miles away i think the 8 way is the go hehe cheers
Yup, maybe so!
I wonder if Andrew is going to make a trash pan for the elevator. For sorting out of the trailer. I don't know how you would use it yourself or sell it. I think woldridge has a trash gate
Yup, they make disc cleaners.
Yeah Chris if you did want to go that way you could just feed your outfeed elevator up a little bit and it would throw it off the elevator a little bit rather than just drop it at the end and then when you're the way that you do by pushing it the man sideways want to get so high you could just do that to push it frontwards to all the personal preference and you're the guy that's doing it
Yup.
Great video, was surprised how much you had to split again , would a box type wedge work better or just bigger logs. Keep going to get your stock up for winter.
Box wedges tend to shred wood too, the right size wood...bigger ... is the key I think.
You look like aragorn when you shave!
Wow, thanks, Vigo is one of my favorite actors, wait till my wife hears this!!! HA!!!!
More debris - - measure that against the time it saves to not have to split a second time half the pieces
Yup.
If you’re gonna have to resplit then toss the splits into the trusty rusty wheelbarrow. Keep those splits off the ground! You might have to get another wheelbarrow! I would fill four wheelbarrows before I started pickin ‘‘em up off the ground.
Good call!
So many suggestions.
So little time. Lol
And now...Up, up and awaaay to the Woodyard! Have a great day everyone and...KEEP PUSHING!!!
Have a good one!
Are you sure you had a trailer without debris when you started? I thought in the previous video of stacking (few video's ago) you left the debris in and parked the trailer under the processor, so it would explain twice the debris. No doubt you have already used the 12 way again, was the amount of debris just as big as this load? At around 3:50 it also looks like there is already a pile of debris while there's little wood gone from the trailer
There was a little but I have run it a few time since this video and with small wood there is even more debris, so the answer is better and bigger wood.
Definitely a ton of scrap. Looks like half face cord. I put mine on bucket and bags for fire starting. Have good day.
Yup, that is the plan going forward!
Chris is the area that you put the debris in a water basin if it rains a lot does it flood?
No, just woods.
I bet some of those wood boiler guys would love to have that debris from the processor for their stove.
Yup!
So the giant loaded question is... Does the processor do enough to justify itself, by itself? Without piling the wood with a huge conveyor it looks like it's a save some time to loose a little product, compared to your usual setup.
Would the quality go up if you just used processor to buck and quarter and hit everything with the splitter as a main plan?
Or, is there a box wedge for the processor?
Better wood is the better answer.
do you do anything with the debris or do you just let it rot away in that pile ?
It will be put in a low area on the farm to decompose.
Congrats ITW/Chris on getting the Stacking done. How much can a Wood Chuck Stack Wood? ASK CHRIS...
All of it!!! Thanks!
Too bad about the debris that 12 way makes nice splits👍👍
Yup, more knives makes more debris.
Is wedge height easy enough to adjust when you start a new log? There has to be a way to minimize the re-splits. re-work with such an expensive machine is crazy.
I Some yes but it would be better with good wood.
Better, your labor is more cost effective. Stay with that plan. Move back to the 8 way
Remember: time is money. Lost or gained
Yup, very good points!!!!
I’m sure you have a good reason, but why don’t you just drive the dump trailer to the debris field and dump it?
Yup, to narrow and tight corners, no where to turn either...tried it ....once!
A+ for trying
Thanks!
Can you increase your conveyor belt speed to fill the very front of the trailer then reduce speed to fill the middle? You'd only need to pull fwd once doing it that way.
Maybe so??
Are you making more wood this year than in previous years? If so how much? Love the channel, watch everyday. Really appreciate new video everyday.
He answered your question in yesterdays vid! LOL
So far about the same but that will change soon.
@@baitammo4652 yup
I have sold more but I am also behind a bit.
Could you throw the debris and little pieces into a pelletizer? Seems a waste just to dump them.
Maybe if I had one, send it and I will use it! Thanks!
Turn the trailer the other way and you can load it better. Keep tractor hook to it and you can dump it more easily. Have a great day be safe
It would probably make it more difficult to load the log deck with the tractor if it was connected to the trailer.😉
Nope, tried it and I can not get close enough to the front.
@@iffykidmn8170 I know that but what I ment was it be easier to used tractor when needing to dump trailer.
Is it really worth using a big machine to cut and split with all of the debris you have left over?
Yes, it save me a lot of work and saves time too, I will figure it out!
Maybe backing your trailer to your debris pile & dumping it?
Can't yet to tight and crooked to get to it!
You use plastic pallets? I think I have some buried in my warehouse at work if you want I'll check and drop them off some day!
Not the light weight blue ones they just bust up in the cold, but the heavy duty black ones yes, that would be great!
@@InTheWoodyard I've got a stack of black skids I'll drop em off probably next week some time! If your not there they will be in your parking lot!
@@travisarndt2330 Awesome! you can just dump them in the space in front of the processor...THANKS!
Hey! Thanks for the pallets!
No problem put them to use! Nice to meet you!
How does your tractor-mounted camera not make bumpy videos when you drive?
Technology! It is a gopro.
So it stabilizes the image?
@@mottmusic101 yes it sure does!
More dabre means less profit I would try one more load with the 12 way an then make your decision. D
Ont give up so easy
We will see!
That amount of junk reminds me of running a box wedge type splitter.
But could also be related to type of tree species and/or age since fallen, and less the 12 way.
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Yup, all good points!
Nice stacking of the Maple and Respiting can be a pain in the arse, it cost you time and money, what matters you your fire wood collection is increasing day by day, the processor saved you using 3 saws cutting logs in the heat,
Yup, it is way faster and much easier with the processor.
pretty good for 9 fingers
ha! Thanks!
I think it's hard to have the perfect wedge set up From what I have seen and have learned from running a timberwolf TW6 splitter with a 6, 4, or a single wedge. I've never own or ran a processor so I'm just going off my opinion which means nothing I think it's just too many variables with the wood on size, how many knots are in it to pick a perfect wedge.
You are correct, more knives means more debris, perfect size would help a lot but that is hard and expensive to come by.
Ever thought about getting a bunch of ibc totes? Have the wood come off the conveyor into bins so a lot less labor?
For the amount of wood he does in a year it would take over 800 IBC totes.
@@brandonpaul5712 maybe so but that much labor will catch up to you after a while? Also how much more time is spent hand loading and unloading?
Yup for about 1 minute. I would need 800 and at $30 @ that would be $24,000 just to get them and then how do I unload them at the delivery????
Yup
To fill the totes they need to be hand stacked or the y don't hold much...still handling and then how do they get unloaded at delivery????
Hi. I just wanted to say that I'm fairly surprised at the size of the pieces and that your customers want or will accept. Watching you resplit the "bigger ones" into basically kindling almost seems counterproductive. Some of it needed to be split, but overall the pieces look small to me, you're splitting nice pieces twice and three times. The more you split, the more volume there, is, but people don't want to buy air in New England and are fairly aware of the tiny split wood deliveries.
Your stacking method with the trailer is a great idea for sure. But again, all those tiny pieces of wood need to be stacked and handled. It's all a lot of work. Nice job though and I guess you know your customers. Maybe the customers don't know any better, because everybody does it that way? Not sure.
My customers are NOT buying wood for heating in a boiler or big wood stove, most people burn wood in a fireplace or high efficiency wood stove and they do not fit big wood plus they like flames to watch while drinking beer. They are a different customer NOT heating people.
@@InTheWoodyard Understood, however the same applies. There's a difference between match stick firewood and giant unwieldy 1/2 split logs. Somewhere in the middle is where you want to be. Tiny pieces requires more fire maintenance as well. JMO. Have a great day!
Send back the 12 way splitter
I might use it again on the right wood.
The easy way, I thought you had someone else doing it.
That would be the easiest!
I know the processer is easier for your back but I think you get more wood and better pieces with regular splitter all in all its hard work and one day your gonna give out lol I just watched joes premium firewood he’s all battered up and pretty lazy lol compared to you lol keep up the good work your like family to me now I watch your videos every day lol
Thanks for watching brother Gary!
think you should go back to the 8 way. more debri means less money. not saving time still resplitting same amount so no improvement there.
Maybe so!
What size bar do you run on that saw
All my chain saws have 24", to me it is the best all around length for the trees I cut.
I am still surprised that your customers prefer wood that small. To me that is just one step above kindling, you get a sharp edge on one of those little pieces you could light that with two matches directly. I am not in any way suggesting you don't know your customers, not at all.
They are burning in a fire place for fun not heating for 90% of them and the 10% that are heating have high efficiency small stoves and fireplace inserts. I have only a few boiler people.
Almost worth getting a chipper and turning that stuff into something sellable
Yup.
The price of easy and the benefits of free should pay for the extra bucket of debris.
Yup, I will find a way to use the debris.
Chip the debris into mulch
Small wood does that I need better wood.
Hi Chris.
That is very disappointing. How did so many about 30% of the smaller ones get through without being touched.?
Have You compared the performance of the Eastonmade with the same sized Japa. There is a market for yours if You decided to swap to one of those if they make more wood and less rubbish.
I would be VERY disappointed with that result. Perhaps look at the video and see where the problem lies.
Best Wishes.
David in Oz.
Edit. I just saw the end of this vid, Chris. isn`t there a speed control on the conveyor. bump the speed and it may land the wood in the front of the trailer, otherwise raise the end of the conveyor and get under further.
regards. David.
Yup, the speed could be increased.
why not just take the trailer back and dump it in the back of the yard? for the debris
It is to tight to get in and out around the corners.
I put a zip tie on my chainsaw thankyou for the tip . Works great
Sounds great!
Where was Tony?
I saw his hat. LOL
Does he have his micrometer there measuring your wood.
Ha! He was cutting his own wood!
At Speedway getting gum.
@@InTheWoodyard oh so he is using his micrometer oh his wood…..
LOL
@@annmariekowalski7505 HA!!!1
@@leovogelgesang4398 Probably so!
It is NOT debris..... It is small kindling.....
Yup, good point!
All that debris. Too bad the work of shredding and mixing with manure is so high. A cubic yard of garden soil is $55 in my town right now.
I am going to bag it soon.
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Thanks Bill!
Maybe it was because you were doing small stuff that almost didn't need split and it just shaved the edges
Seems that I noticed that also! More tiny logs on that run?!?!
Yup, I need better wood for sure!
Hey Chris Another AWESOME video! When I was watching you split with the 12 way the other day I didn't leave a comment! So today my comment is more for that day. I am surprised at how much wood you had to re-split. I thought the 12 way was splitting alot of smaller stuff, which you found out today with all the debris in the trailer. My main comment is about the processor! It seems o me that your chair is too low, you are always craning your neck to see into the wedge area & your legs don't look comfortable! Can the control table be raised up so that you can raise your seat up more?? Maybe a redesign by Eastonmade is possible? Again Chris keep up with the great work ethic and awesome videos! GNI
Yup, I need better wood and the chair is to low! I am going to use a boat cussion!
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Thanks Tony!
I do not believe the randomness 4-16"in the size of the wood is helping.🤔
EXACTLY! I need 10-20" wood no small crap!!!!
That is certainly a lot of waste with the 12 way. Always seems to be a trade off, faster but more waste.
Yup, I need to figure it out!
You can't speed up the elevator to throw it far enough? Give it a try 😉
Yup, I will!
Yep, that 12-way is gonna make a lot of waste.
I need bigger wood!