Such HEROIC actions from that air hostess and the lives she saved by returning to that cabin, risking her own life over and over,finding the little girl, and saving her, physically pulling the little boy out from being jammed at the exit door, she is a hero, an understated one but definitely a HERO!!
I looked up this disaster in Wikipedia, then read about her and immediately thought: wow. She handled the 'traffic jam' caused by all the passengers trying to get through the narrow passageway in the plane. Without her, there would have been many more deaths. *note: her name was Joanna Toff but she married and in the documentary her name is Joanna Caston*
Captain Terrington comes across in this video as a really lovely caring man profoundly affected by this disaster, which was not his fault. He is so gently spoken, humble & reflective. I have just read that he died in 2016 & he was indeed deeply traumatised by the accident. He had survivor guilt & questioned every day whether he could have done more to save lives. He clearly had a big heart & a wounded conscience. His wife said (an article in Manchester Evening News on date of his death) he mentioned the disaster almost every day & went to the annual memorial service. When he retired he became a counsellor for lonely older people with depression. That seems to capture who he was; a caring, feeling human being. He also lived with Parkinson's disease which is obvious from this video. RIP Peter Terrington
I had the honour of bringing Peter and his wife back from holiday after he had retired. He came to the cockpit to thank me for the bottle of champagne I'd asked my cabin crew to offer to them. We had a pretty emotional chat, but he was such a lovely gentleman. For any pilot or any member of a crew to have to live through this experience is inexcusable. All the recommendations that were suggested by the AAIB were known problems, yet it needed people to die before anything was done ,for example, no extra leg room at the overwing exit... toxic materials used in the cabin ...while I have huge respect for the AAIB I do not believe smoke hoods for passengers would be a good idea. We had to practice putting them on once a year for our safety training and they are horrible. Such a sad event BUT at least safety recommendations were implemented.
Joanna (Toff) Caston… What a HEROINE! Going back into that Inferno must have been absolutely terrifying, but she did and saved a little girl. That's what I call being made of the Right Stuff! I Salute You, Joanna! She deserved a Polaris Prize for her actions!
I remember hearing about this disaster for the first time in 1985. To think how worse this could have been if the plane had left the ground. Hope all those who survived that day are well and may all those who lost their lives rest in peace.
It's notable though that they didn't list another major air crash that year. 200 people died on June 10th when Aeroflot Flight 5143 crashed in Siberia which was the deadliest air disaster in the history of the Soviet Union.
@@MrMarinus18 Yeah, the USSR was rather fond of covering stuff that didn't conform to the image of a wonderful socialist utopia. It was only a year or so before Chernobyl blew that approach out of the water. Had they come clean about it it maybe wouldn't be forgotten. (And yeah, Russia was terrible. If you saw a description of a western disaster on TV, you know something similar had happened in the USSR -- they played footage of Three Mile Island just after Chernobyl, for example, before they were forced to admit to the problem in their own state. One heartbreaking story is of a random family whose daughter left for Moscow on a trip and never came home again. They just had to assume she'd been hurt in an accident and carry on with no recognition that the tragedy had even occurred. I can't imagine what it would be like for that to happen at all, let alone regularly.) Also, fun fact -- 1985 was the single deadliest year for commercial aviation. My instinct is that it was basically the year when demand had got so high but regulations hadn't caught up with it, and also more people had access to media reports. Infrastructure was at capacity, studies needed to be done into safety measures to prevent recurrences, and in a lot of cases of non-aviation accidents the issues were solved by improving outdated and crumbling buildings. It was a pinch point where we couldn't go forward if we didn't radically improve things. (Even terrorist attacks like Air India could have been prevented if there had been more thorough inspections and reconciliation of baggage to passengers. Of course that assumes that terrorists didn't want to be on the doomed plane and not become suicide bombers, but it was a way of forcing terrorists to find another way of attacking airliners.)
@@louiseogden1296 Actually your theory is incorrect. There were good regulations but they were rolled back. The 1980's was a time of rampant deregulation and 1985 actually made governments back down from that policy somewhat. I also feel we today live in the same position as the USSR in that the establishment wants to keep convincing us that market magic is the perfect tool and we live in a utopia right now. Not allowing in any notion that capitalism isn't perfect and needs to be regulated and balanced by the state. Just like the USSR was unwilling to allow any notion that socialism isn't perfect and that people need to have the space to take initiative and do things outside the mandates of the government.
“There were good regulations but they were rolled back”. Good regulations which are rolled back create a situation where there are poor regulations, Einstein.
A four page check list after a fire? That's crazy. Set the brakes, shut down the engines and evacuate. Forget the plane. Passengers should come first, not last.
Surely they can come up with a 'kill switch' which will automatically shut down the systems and allow the pilots to deal with the evacuation. Isn't it possible to have rear facing cameras which allows the pilots to see what is happining around the engines and undercarriage? Passengers can now see a pilots view out front on the entertainment screen. More important the the pilot can see his engines and undercarriage both of which are involved in a high percentage of accidents.
Out of all of these shows that I have seen so far, this one ticked me off the most. SERIOUSLY.....the 4 page checklist before evacuation. OMG!!!! When does COMMON SENSE kick in?
They need to follow it to make sure the engine is not sticking people in or the fuel is not all around the hot red brakes or if it is simply possible to evacuate. Nowadays the evacuation checklist is about 2 pages
@@tarafficstory" Simply possible to evacuate?" You say? I guess you are one of those people who will justify ignorance? It makes more sense to take your chances of getting burned a bit outside, than to for sure burn alive inside. But then again what do we expect when we have a nation of sheep who FEAR everything. They fear things that don't even exist. Ex: Aliens and a flu that doesn't exist. To the extent that they will have a mercury filled concoction injected into their veins which is a guarantee that they will get sick. To make matters worse we have to deal with people who are so used to texting that they forgot how to use punctuation. Your message makes no sense at all.
Still a miracle. Many aircraft would not have survived hitting a regional jet on landing, especially not come to a stop with everyone alive. A350 is a tough bird. I remember when they doubted the strength of composites in airliners. Still the evacuation was too slow. It was 20 minutes before the flight crew left the liner, the captain being last. How it held together that long while engulfed in flames is beyond me and it adds to the A350s credibility as well built aircraft. Still 90 s after coming to a stop it should have been evacuated. It took 13 times longer than that. Fortunately no one brought their luggage, it wouldn't be the first case of a liner coming to a stop on fire with everyone alive but people slowing everything down by taking luggage end up costing many their lives. How anyone survived in the Q400 is also a miracle. Of course it's the guy who caused it... but that thing was obliterated. Nothing remotely aircraft-like was left. And everyone has been saying it will happen, what was it 40 serious runway incursions in the US last year alone? It was bound to happen. When you have close call after close call eventually it will happen and some of the systems being proposed now, would have prevented this. They spent a long time on the runway, hearing the A350 get landing clearance on that same runway.
@@REBECCA12341 The only fatalities aboard JAL516, the Airbus was in fact a dog and a cat. Unfortunately they were checked in so you couldn't just open the cages and at leasr let them have a chance. When we moved continents, we had two cats and a dog in the cabin (in cages of course and mildly sedated). It wasn't fun and I'm sure it annoyed people but I'm glad. Gets cold down there. And if there is an accident a loose cat or two is not going to slow things down. But pets often don't fare well in disasters. I believe 12 dogs were aboard RMS Titanic. A passenger did ask for the key and go down to free the dogs from the kennel. It's why in some Titanic movies you see dogs running around. Two made it off, both small lapdogs, hidden in purses or under a coat. One first class passenger refused to leave her great dane behind and died after going below to look for the dog. Jenny, the ship's cat of Titanic had herself previously served aboard the older sister RMS Olympic, like much of the crew, including the Captain and were promoted to Titanic once she sailed. As both ships were identical the crew was already intimately familiar with the vessel having operated Olympic for a year (and almost sunk once after colliding with HMS Hawk). Anyway Jenny had kittens and jumped ship at Southampton, carrying her kittens one by one. It is typical for ship's cats to raise the kittens on land and return to the ship after that. One fireman saw Jenny leave and took it as a bad omen so he too left the ship. Of course had he stayed he would likely have died as of the 300 crew on the boiler rooms only 60 or so made it out.
Very informative. Not mentioned: that all 4 of the cabin-crew were awarded the Queen's Gallantry medal. Two of these awards were posthumous. Two firefighters were also honoured with QGMs.
I heard about this disaster and my family watched it all on the news. I was born in 1989 and i asked my brother how did this happened. I heard the captain who was on the plane started suffering from PTSD after what happened.
It’s a surprise to me, since full episodes aren’t free to watch and therefore aren’t allowed to be uploaded to TH-cam. I’ve seen lots of full episodes on TH-cam getting taken down due to copyright.
My father, Samuel Lyttle, received a QGM (Queens Galantry Medal) for bravery in this disaster. (Fire Fighter based at Manchester Airport) Never forget the trip to Buckingham Palace 🏅 👑
I get this is sarcasm, but the sad truth is that many people probably believe this statement and think that the cameraman really does survive these accidents instead of understanding that is a reenactment.
I remember the day well. I was in Lanzarote & our flight back to the UK was delayed for most of the day owing to MCR airport being shut down because of the accident. A couple of years later I took part in the evacuation trials at Cranfield where we given different positions on a plane & told to get off as quickly as possible. It wasn’t a perfect representation of what would have happened but it gave pointers. I still believe that the disaster was worse on the day because this was a holiday flight with families on board who would have tried to leave in a group rather than as individuals escaping. It was a privilege to take part though, to try & help anyone affected to find out why so many lost their lives when they could maybe have escaped the fire.
I remember this being on the news -- we were driving on a holiday. We'd just started flying quite a bit to get to my grandparents in Ireland, so at almost 6 it was not the best thing for a kid to hear about! Besides that, I really like when American documentaries cover British disasters etc. I like seeing the different perspectives etc.
What s really interesting is, to watch British docus in comparison to US docus. The British are not hysterical and they are not trying to present everything as the biggest/worst a s o
Read comments from American plane accidents in America and you'll find many comments from people claiming they'd sooner die helping others out first than live with the guilt of knowing they lived and someone else died.. But that's easy to say on TH-cam, but when your lungs start to burn and eyes start streaming it's a survival instinct to rush for fresh air, it really is the case of the first out stand the best chance... I mean it's hardly like in a battlefield when faced with gunfire, reality there is you may or may not get shot, you might get captured, you might get Injured.. Here there's no might about it, it's a case of you will die if you don't get out
Actually its a Canadian documentary series, titled Mayday . Several countries including the UK broadcast it as well ,but using a different narrator and title . In the UK ,it's called Aircrash Investigation . Jonathan Aris is the narrator
@@Shujaa24 You do realise that this is an animation right? And passengers cannot evacuate while the engines are running unless you want human soup at the rear of the plane.
My hands are "up" I totally agree,I love these full episodes! I do think on this particular plane,that escape exits should be added to the centre of the passenger cabin. It is quite a long plane & the 4 exits,in an emergency are too far apart. Does anybody else agree?
They didn't mention that another thing that was done was to use materials which didn't give off such poisonous smoke. And using materials that are less prone to combust so rapidly (or at all) in the first place. Overall, the measures taken pretty much made smoke hoods unnecessary. Though it wouldn't hurt to pass them out to disabled and elderly passengers as they come on board.
Yeah there’s a few things they didn’t mention. This was another. I have commented about how it is now standard for aircraft to stay on the runway not turn off if they have a fire. Tbf handing smoke hoods to the elderly would slow things down even more than just handing them out to everyone. They’re probably the main reason for not having them as they’re more likely to take longer putting it on and then moving out of the plane.
Honestly that seems a much better solution. You really think panicking people who weren’t paying attention to the safety briefing (because you know people don’t) are going to both remember to get their smoke hood and successfully put it on when the first breath already left them disoriented?
I have watched all least 50 Air disaster documentaries. I recommend, everyone who flies should do the same. You can learn alot from others failures and success.
The graphic on exits failed to mention the over-wing exits. Clearly, the left exit was unusable because of the fire, but the right exit was serviceable. It not near the front, I always aim for the over-wing exit row.
For such a massive airline with such a huge fleet of aircraft British Airways has comparatively had a very small number of accidents.very safe airline & one you can fly in confidence
No one on a stopped and burning plane is going to remain seated until the flight crew reaches a decision point in some procedure to allow an evac. People will immediately move on their own to get off the plane, and if the crew isn't helping them do that, the crew becomes the problem. Even requiring smoke hoods is a time-costing step than no passenger will observe - all procedures must focus on immediate evacuation because that's what the passengers will be attempting regardless of the rules.
@@cessnacitation-x What happened here?! I’m so sorry, I had no idea that all those hands had ended up in my comment 😳. I kept dozing off while I typed it - I would *never* have deliberately added a load of spam like that. How embarrassing!
I think when the situation was so bad and they were. Suffocating from smoke and there was just one way out they could use the windows of cockpit as the captain and co pilot used ,to accelerate the evacuation because there were a lot of people (sorry for my bad english grammar)
"1985 the deadliest year in aviation history". I believe it. It seemed like every morning just before my parents would drop me off at summer camp, the morning news was reporting some air crash. TWA getting hijacked and Air India blown up in June. Then August with Delta 191 in Dallas, JAL 123, and the Manchester fire. Then later as a 5th grader the Newfoundland crash in December just before Christmas break to bookend it.
How could you leave a little girl on an aircraft? These are the real people of the world. What a courageous stewardess all those people and the little girl was sitting in her seat
I can't think of a more horrific and depressing job than investigating a severe airplane fire with many fatalities. The last, agonizing minutes of the victims' lives are tragically written in the remains of the crash. The investigations are crucial in reducing future accidents. Many thanks to those who conduct these inquiries: you are better men (or women) than I.
I mean, it's an exiciting job too. A particular one. What about a rescuer/first aid responder, not sure about the name, people who are called on accident places and rescue people who will most probably not even survive. There are many really important jobs and I'm sure yours is important too, maybe not in the same way but I bet you are a great person. 😍❤️
I mean, it's an exiciting job too. A particular one. What about a rescuer/first aid responder, not sure about the name, people who are called on accident places and rescue people who will most probably not even survive. There are many really important jobs and I'm sure yours is important too, maybe not in the same way but I bet you are a great person. 😍❤️
@@saralampret9694 Thanks for the reply, sara. You're right, just about any job has some importance and nobility to it, at least if you perform it with diligence and honor. I was about to say passion, but that's probably a bit much if you're a janitor or a factory worker! (Both jobs I have held briefly but with distinct lack of passion! ) Bottom line, we're all humans, so you have to respect anyone who works hard for his pay, yes? Sorry, sara, I'm rambling here, so cheers and thanks for the comment. Bye. PS: You said you bet I am a great person. We-e-ll, I have to say you are spot-on there, I truly am a fine human being: wildly handsome, super-kind, intellectually superior and...darn it, I ran out of adjectives! Sorry, it's 3 AM and I am spinning. Apologies for rambling.
Yeah, if that one lady hadn't lost her sh*t and tried to get off the plane, things probably would have gone better. She started a panic in my opinion and probably should have at least been reprimanded. I think if they had forced her to stay in her seat, things would have gone differently.
The air accident investigators say this shouldn't have happened as the aircraft didn't even make it into the air or run off the runway - but let's face it, there have been buses and trains caught fire with similar fatality numbers. A plane on the ground is just a higher up version of those (and one with far more flammable fuel) with the same bottle neck difficulty when it comes to evacuating passengers in a fire.
It does say, Max right at the end; the emergency chute deployed too early and caused the door to jam. Boeing have subsequently redesigned it so that can't happen.
Please translate these wonderful docs into Portuguese and subtitle them and make them available here on YT. Brazil no longer has a Smithsonian Channel. I'm orphan of your good docs.
its totally situational, you cant blame her. we can all say what we "would have done" but we can never really know until we are in that situation, which hopefully noone ever is again
I doubt it because no one pointed it out. Other things like this flight attendants have gotten aggressive over it. 'Stay seated until we tell you to get up' and this is probably why. People died and as awful as it is, she's partially responsible whether it was an accident, reflex etc.
Oh. My. God. Despte it being 38 years on this year from it. This disaster still haunts us in Manchester. So many died when they could so easily have survived.
@@sexynelson100 more or less. Im actually a born and bred Mancunian so i know just how hard this tragedy hit. It was as bad as the 1967 Stockport Air Disaster which was actually even deadlier.
Technically they've been around for years. Just the Canadian version though. Only difference is it's called Mayday Air Disasters and the narrator is British.
Poor passengers! First the plane on fire and then a visit from Margaret Thatcher 😕 Now they're really traumatized! (Sorry, I couldn't help it🤷🏻♀️ In all seriousness though, I can't imagine what these poor people went through. I'd be hiding under the covers 24/7 for years!)
china airlines 120 is another example of how these people changed aviation safety so much-the plane exploded after everyone got off after an engine fire
Likely not, since the airflow would have kept the fire off the fuel age and they’d have shit it down and come back. It’s very likely it would have been a very minor incident.
Was wondering - the flight attendant with no mask on goes inside the fuming plane to save more people, yet the firefighters with masks on continued adamantly to spritz the plane
They have something similar in the cockpit but it only works in the air because to do that the plane needs to be pressurised and then depressurised. But if the plane is already depressurised before activated it has the opposite effect and spreads the fire faster due to the oxygen introduced.
Abdulrahman - That sounds very reasonable and - more importantly- achievable without major expense. I agree you would need the exhaust adjustments to deploy automatically, you don't want to rely on someone making manual adjustments in the middle of a chaotic emergency.
Yeah, I saw all of these in 2014 after the MH370 flight disappeared. Must have been uploaded by somebody else though. I can't find these episodes that were uploaded back then now.
13:35 I love the shot of the fireman with the respirator and fire suit, standing at the bottom of the chute, waving for the flight attendant to get off, as she goes back to rescue the girl! How many people could HE have saved? I guess he didn't have a ladder!😒
yeah, he could have saved so many people! it's not like he was already controlling a powerful blaze with no quick way up to the plane, right? oh wait. and you say this like you yourself wouldn't get off the plane the first chance you got and never look back.
although bucket reversers were cool, they were a lot more dangerous due to debris flying into/onto the wing, possibly getting jammed/stuck and lowering lift, and also causing backfire to effectively be deflected straight into the aircraft body
It's a first responder and other healthcare professionals first semester of fundamentals teaches that fire is not what ends lives whether alone or in a crowded situation of fire consuming everything and everyone. Smoke inhalation triggers instinctive mechanism that closes and blocks airway as if you had swallowed a towel. Smoke is as toxic as the fue it is burning. So wood or plant material just the smoke can trigger the closing of the airways. THis wasn't just smke but actually gaseous poison inhalants. It acts like acid in gas form that one breath in would begin to melt the delicate sponge-like tissues of lung lobes. I remember when this happened. We were an AirForce Family and all things aircraft was on our radar. That research showing the toxicity of the plastics and foams etc began the overhaul of materials approved for EVRYTHING ie baby loths, kid pj's, mattresses LR furniture even. RIP all the ones lost so abruptly.
1985 was a bad year, I graduated from high school, we were so woefully unprepared for university, even our class #1 and 2 had a hard time, we didn't have Google, it takes so much less time for the same things
4 air disaster in the year 1985 16:14 Air India Flight 182 16:24 Delta Airlines Flight 191 16:36 Japan Airlines Flight 123 16:54 British Airtour Flight 28
But can you imagine if he’d turned left and the wind had blown the fire around the front of the plane, where the only two working doors were? They might have lost almost everyone on board.
What about someone like myself that’s in a wheelchair every time I travel they always put me way in the middle it would’ve been smart put me at the front close to the exit
External cameras (as are fitted in limited numbers on some aircraft) would have helped the pilot identify what caused the bang. I watch a lot of these, the time it takes the flight crew to identify damage very often makes situations much worse. A set of cameras on the under carriage, on the engines, tail and along the hull and roof.
I always think... what about retractable and extendable side view mirrors! Cameras everywhere are a great idea because most of the time, the pilots have no clue what they're dealing with
This is why I hate to be crammed in with other people . What could have been a straight line out becomes a free-for-all ... I know they can't help it but damn it all I hate it ....
Such HEROIC actions from that air hostess and the lives she saved by returning to that cabin, risking her own life over and over,finding the little girl, and saving her, physically pulling the little boy out from being jammed at the exit door, she is a hero, an understated one but definitely a HERO!!
I looked up this disaster in Wikipedia, then read about her and immediately thought: wow. She handled the 'traffic jam' caused by all the passengers trying to get through the narrow passageway in the plane. Without her, there would have been many more deaths.
*note: her name was Joanna Toff but she married and in the documentary her name is Joanna Caston*
@@AudieHolland thanks for the wikipedia
Heroes don't always wear capes. Hats off to her.
🥹🥹 she is indeed a hero 😍
Brave woman!
Captain Terrington comes across in this video as a really lovely caring man profoundly affected by this disaster, which was not his fault. He is so gently spoken, humble & reflective. I have just read that he died in 2016 & he was indeed deeply traumatised by the accident. He had survivor guilt & questioned every day whether he could have done more to save lives. He clearly had a big heart & a wounded conscience. His wife said (an article in Manchester Evening News on date of his death) he mentioned the disaster almost every day & went to the annual memorial service. When he retired he became a counsellor for lonely older people with depression. That seems to capture who he was; a caring, feeling human being. He also lived with Parkinson's disease which is obvious from this video. RIP Peter Terrington
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Aww poor fella sometimes we just have no control sad he struggled for the rest of his life
I had the honour of bringing Peter and his wife back from holiday after he had retired. He came to the cockpit to thank me for the bottle of champagne I'd asked my cabin crew to offer to them. We had a pretty emotional chat, but he was such a lovely gentleman. For any pilot or any member of a crew to have to live through this experience is inexcusable. All the recommendations that were suggested by the AAIB were known problems, yet it needed people to die before anything was done ,for example, no extra leg room at the overwing exit... toxic materials used in the cabin ...while I have huge respect for the AAIB I do not believe smoke hoods for passengers would be a good idea. We had to practice putting them on once a year for our safety training and they are horrible. Such a sad event BUT at least safety recommendations were implemented.
RIP captain
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Joanna (Toff) Caston… What a HEROINE! Going back into that Inferno must have been absolutely terrifying, but she did and saved a little girl. That's what I call being made of the Right Stuff! I Salute You, Joanna! She deserved a Polaris Prize for her actions!
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My heartfelt condolences to those who experienced loss
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I remember hearing about this disaster for the first time in 1985. To think how worse this could have been if the plane had left the ground. Hope all those who survived that day are well and may all those who lost their lives rest in peace.
Amen to that.
It's notable though that they didn't list another major air crash that year. 200 people died on June 10th when Aeroflot Flight 5143 crashed in Siberia which was the deadliest air disaster in the history of the Soviet Union.
@@MrMarinus18 Yeah, the USSR was rather fond of covering stuff that didn't conform to the image of a wonderful socialist utopia. It was only a year or so before Chernobyl blew that approach out of the water. Had they come clean about it it maybe wouldn't be forgotten. (And yeah, Russia was terrible. If you saw a description of a western disaster on TV, you know something similar had happened in the USSR -- they played footage of Three Mile Island just after Chernobyl, for example, before they were forced to admit to the problem in their own state. One heartbreaking story is of a random family whose daughter left for Moscow on a trip and never came home again. They just had to assume she'd been hurt in an accident and carry on with no recognition that the tragedy had even occurred. I can't imagine what it would be like for that to happen at all, let alone regularly.)
Also, fun fact -- 1985 was the single deadliest year for commercial aviation. My instinct is that it was basically the year when demand had got so high but regulations hadn't caught up with it, and also more people had access to media reports. Infrastructure was at capacity, studies needed to be done into safety measures to prevent recurrences, and in a lot of cases of non-aviation accidents the issues were solved by improving outdated and crumbling buildings. It was a pinch point where we couldn't go forward if we didn't radically improve things.
(Even terrorist attacks like Air India could have been prevented if there had been more thorough inspections and reconciliation of baggage to passengers. Of course that assumes that terrorists didn't want to be on the doomed plane and not become suicide bombers, but it was a way of forcing terrorists to find another way of attacking airliners.)
@@louiseogden1296 Actually your theory is incorrect. There were good regulations but they were rolled back. The 1980's was a time of rampant deregulation and 1985 actually made governments back down from that policy somewhat.
I also feel we today live in the same position as the USSR in that the establishment wants to keep convincing us that market magic is the perfect tool and we live in a utopia right now. Not allowing in any notion that capitalism isn't perfect and needs to be regulated and balanced by the state. Just like the USSR was unwilling to allow any notion that socialism isn't perfect and that people need to have the space to take initiative and do things outside the mandates of the government.
“There were good regulations but they were rolled back”. Good regulations which are rolled back create a situation where there are poor regulations, Einstein.
A four page check list after a fire? That's crazy. Set the brakes, shut down the engines and evacuate. Forget the plane. Passengers should come first, not last.
Surely they can come up with a 'kill switch' which will automatically shut down the systems and allow the pilots to deal with the evacuation.
Isn't it possible to have rear facing cameras which allows the pilots to see what is happining around the engines and undercarriage? Passengers can now see a pilots view out front on the entertainment screen. More important the the pilot can see his engines and undercarriage both of which are involved in a high percentage of accidents.
Who tf decided it was a good idea for the pilots to go through a 4 page emergency checklist during an evacuation 💀
A Person who had no concern for human life 😢
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My question is why WHEN THE PLANE IS ON FIRE!!!
Out of all of these shows that I have seen so far, this one ticked me off the most. SERIOUSLY.....the 4 page checklist before evacuation. OMG!!!! When does COMMON SENSE kick in?
They need to follow it to make sure the engine is not sticking people in or the fuel is not all around the hot red brakes or if it is simply possible to evacuate. Nowadays the evacuation checklist is about 2 pages
@@tarafficstory" Simply possible to evacuate?" You say? I guess you are one of those people who will justify ignorance? It makes more sense to take your chances of getting burned a bit outside, than to for sure burn alive inside. But then again what do we expect when we have a nation of sheep who FEAR everything. They fear things that don't even exist. Ex: Aliens and a flu that doesn't exist. To the extent that they will have a mercury filled concoction injected into their veins which is a guarantee that they will get sick. To make matters worse we have to deal with people who are so used to texting that they forgot how to use punctuation. Your message makes no sense at all.
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Come to re-watch after witnessing the JL516 escape at Haneda. Glad that lessons were learned from past disasters.
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Still a miracle. Many aircraft would not have survived hitting a regional jet on landing, especially not come to a stop with everyone alive. A350 is a tough bird. I remember when they doubted the strength of composites in airliners. Still the evacuation was too slow. It was 20 minutes before the flight crew left the liner, the captain being last. How it held together that long while engulfed in flames is beyond me and it adds to the A350s credibility as well built aircraft. Still 90 s after coming to a stop it should have been evacuated. It took 13 times longer than that. Fortunately no one brought their luggage, it wouldn't be the first case of a liner coming to a stop on fire with everyone alive but people slowing everything down by taking luggage end up costing many their lives.
How anyone survived in the Q400 is also a miracle. Of course it's the guy who caused it... but that thing was obliterated. Nothing remotely aircraft-like was left.
And everyone has been saying it will happen, what was it 40 serious runway incursions in the US last year alone? It was bound to happen. When you have close call after close call eventually it will happen and some of the systems being proposed now, would have prevented this. They spent a long time on the runway, hearing the A350 get landing clearance on that same runway.
@@REBECCA12341 The only fatalities aboard JAL516, the Airbus was in fact a dog and a cat. Unfortunately they were checked in so you couldn't just open the cages and at leasr let them have a chance. When we moved continents, we had two cats and a dog in the cabin (in cages of course and mildly sedated). It wasn't fun and I'm sure it annoyed people but I'm glad. Gets cold down there. And if there is an accident a loose cat or two is not going to slow things down.
But pets often don't fare well in disasters. I believe 12 dogs were aboard RMS Titanic. A passenger did ask for the key and go down to free the dogs from the kennel. It's why in some Titanic movies you see dogs running around.
Two made it off, both small lapdogs, hidden in purses or under a coat.
One first class passenger refused to leave her great dane behind and died after going below to look for the dog.
Jenny, the ship's cat of Titanic had herself previously served aboard the older sister RMS Olympic, like much of the crew, including the Captain and were promoted to Titanic once she sailed. As both ships were identical the crew was already intimately familiar with the vessel having operated Olympic for a year (and almost sunk once after colliding with HMS Hawk).
Anyway Jenny had kittens and jumped ship at Southampton, carrying her kittens one by one. It is typical for ship's cats to raise the kittens on land and return to the ship after that.
One fireman saw Jenny leave and took it as a bad omen so he too left the ship. Of course had he stayed he would likely have died as of the 300 crew on the boiler rooms only 60 or so made it out.
Very informative. Not mentioned: that all 4 of the cabin-crew were awarded the Queen's Gallantry medal. Two of these awards were posthumous. Two firefighters were also honoured with QGMs.
Very heroic flight crew - so brave.
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I heard about this disaster and my family watched it all on the news. I was born in 1989 and i asked my brother how did this happened. I heard the captain who was on the plane started suffering from PTSD after what happened.
Pretty sure everyone on the flight has PTSD…
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You have truly made my day with sending full episodes my boi!
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You know it’s a good a day when they upload a full episode
Edit: thanks for 200 likes
It’s a surprise to me, since full episodes aren’t free to watch and therefore aren’t allowed to be uploaded to TH-cam. I’ve seen lots of full episodes on TH-cam getting taken down due to copyright.
So true
@@sunnyfon9065 ummmm....who gave you this information??? Because that's not how that works
Yesssss sir
@@TylerGutwein it is true
My father, Samuel Lyttle, received a QGM (Queens Galantry Medal) for bravery in this disaster. (Fire Fighter based at Manchester Airport) Never forget the trip to Buckingham Palace 🏅 👑
That is awesome. I hope your father is very proud! Fire fighters too often go unnoticed for their bravery.
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@@rmelin13231don't die as a disbeliever
It shows how every second means a large percentage of your survival
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Props to the cameraman who survived all of these crashes
You think he'd be banned from flying at this point, every plane he boards seems to crash.
@@BunkerFox the cameraman crashes the planes for views :skull:
@@IronRation1231 nah he just finds it extremely funny and he wants to share it with the world
Thank you for the giggle
I get this is sarcasm, but the sad truth is that many people probably believe this statement and think that the cameraman really does survive these accidents instead of understanding that is a reenactment.
I remember the day well. I was in Lanzarote & our flight back to the UK was delayed for most of the day owing to MCR airport being shut down because of the accident. A couple of years later I took part in the evacuation trials at Cranfield where we given different positions on a plane & told to get off as quickly as possible. It wasn’t a perfect representation of what would have happened but it gave pointers. I still believe that the disaster was worse on the day because this was a holiday flight with families on board who would have tried to leave in a group rather than as individuals escaping. It was a privilege to take part though, to try & help anyone affected to find out why so many lost their lives when they could maybe have escaped the fire.
Notice how the pilot shakes when he talks about this. As you would expect, he is clearly highly affected by this.
Yes. Poor man.
He suffered from Parkinson's in his later years.
Probably haunted by abiding by the 4 page exit checklist IN AN EMERGENCY!
tell me you don't know what Parkinson's is without telling me you don't know what Parkinson's is.
@@5GreenAcres Yeah thats BS, has boeing updated this so that getting the people out is item one on the checklist?
Sincere condolences on those families who suffered great loss
Mainly a bunch of white people, so no big loss.
I remember this being on the news -- we were driving on a holiday. We'd just started flying quite a bit to get to my grandparents in Ireland, so at almost 6 it was not the best thing for a kid to hear about!
Besides that, I really like when American documentaries cover British disasters etc. I like seeing the different perspectives etc.
What s really interesting is, to watch British docus in comparison to US docus. The British are not hysterical and they are not trying to present everything as the biggest/worst a s o
@@peterborg3340 they have to dumb it down for people who absolutely nothing about aircraft, and still manage to get simple facts wrong.
Read comments from American plane accidents in America and you'll find many comments from people claiming they'd sooner die helping others out first than live with the guilt of knowing they lived and someone else died..
But that's easy to say on TH-cam, but when your lungs start to burn and eyes start streaming it's a survival instinct to rush for fresh air, it really is the case of the first out stand the best chance...
I mean it's hardly like in a battlefield when faced with gunfire, reality there is you may or may not get shot, you might get captured, you might get Injured..
Here there's no might about it, it's a case of you will die if you don't get out
Actually its a Canadian documentary series, titled Mayday . Several countries including the UK broadcast it as well ,but using a different narrator and title . In the UK ,it's called Aircrash Investigation . Jonathan Aris is the narrator
@@MaidenCanada Thanks for the correction -- yes, you're totally right. It's still interesting seeing these things from the outside perspective.
This is one of the few times I can recall an abandoned take off, most of the time it's always too late
Yup. Like the Concorde crash of 2000.
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A FOUR page evacuation check-list? Are you kidding me?
Yeah how ridiculous
Evacuate means get out now,4 pages is just ridiculous!!
You guys seem to really want to see passengers try to evacuate while the engines are still spinning and the plane is still rolling.
@@cessnacitation-x Did you not watch? The plane had already stopped!
@@Shujaa24 You do realise that this is an animation right? And passengers cannot evacuate while the engines are running unless you want human soup at the rear of the plane.
Fire is the one thing that people will panic over more than any other.
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My hands are "up" I totally agree,I love these full episodes! I do think on this particular plane,that escape exits should be added to the centre of the passenger cabin. It is quite a long plane & the 4 exits,in an emergency are too far apart. Does anybody else agree?
They do have over wing exits but the ons on the port side could not be used in this case due to the engine fire.
The planes of today are a perfection due to lessons learnt from the past. We are very lucky people
Nothing's perfect njoro,God tu!!!
Change of wind direction did this. I remember it very well
The stewardess did an exellent job and saved as many lifes as she can.
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They didn't mention that another thing that was done was to use materials which didn't give off such poisonous smoke. And using materials that are less prone to combust so rapidly (or at all) in the first place. Overall, the measures taken pretty much made smoke hoods unnecessary. Though it wouldn't hurt to pass them out to disabled and elderly passengers as they come on board.
Yeah there’s a few things they didn’t mention. This was another. I have commented about how it is now standard for aircraft to stay on the runway not turn off if they have a fire.
Tbf handing smoke hoods to the elderly would slow things down even more than just handing them out to everyone. They’re probably the main reason for not having them as they’re more likely to take longer putting it on and then moving out of the plane.
Honestly that seems a much better solution. You really think panicking people who weren’t paying attention to the safety briefing (because you know people don’t) are going to both remember to get their smoke hood and successfully put it on when the first breath already left them disoriented?
"Welcome aboard sir, here's your smoke hood"..... Ryanair maybe?
If both doors had been opened people would have made it out.
@@larrybe2900 What a shame boeing didn't design the doors better in the first place, bad design in aeroplanes costs lives.
I have watched all least 50 Air disaster documentaries. I recommend, everyone who flies should do the same. You can learn alot from others failures and success.
The graphic on exits failed to mention the over-wing exits. Clearly, the left exit was unusable because of the fire, but the right exit was serviceable. It not near the front, I always aim for the over-wing exit row.
It's what I do. I always look to see my exits. I've watched a lot of these. Seconds count.
For such a massive airline with such a huge fleet of aircraft British Airways has comparatively had a very small number of accidents.very safe airline & one you can fly in confidence
Am I the only one who is so deathly afraid of flying, but continues to watch these
Same here
@@Shujaa24 LOL
I seem to do so even more right before a trip😂
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If the "wool" in the carpets and upholstery had been actual wool, rather than petroleum-based synthetics, passengers would be FAR better off.
I love watching these right before going on a flight
OMG...LMAO
OMG!!!!I HOPE THATS SARCASM 😮
No one on a stopped and burning plane is going to remain seated until the flight crew reaches a decision point in some procedure to allow an evac. People will immediately move on their own to get off the plane, and if the crew isn't helping them do that, the crew becomes the problem. Even requiring smoke hoods is a time-costing step than no passenger will observe - all procedures must focus on immediate evacuation because that's what the passengers will be attempting regardless of the rules.
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Love finding these episodes which really examine one accident for 45 minutes. 🤲✋🙋♀️🤚🖐️🖖👋🙌
🤝👐🙌🙏🙌👐🤌👈👇👆🤞🖕🖐️☝️🤘✌️✊👉👉🤲🫰🖖🤚🤟🤙🤙🤙🤟🤲🤟🤲👉👌👉👌👉👌👉👌👈👈🤘👇✊👈?
@@cessnacitation-x What happened here?! I’m so sorry, I had no idea that all those hands had ended up in my comment 😳. I kept dozing off while I typed it - I would *never* have deliberately added a load of spam like that. How embarrassing!
@@moiraatkinson ☝️✌️🙌🤞🤝🤌✋👆👌👏👌👐✊👇✍️👈✋✌️👆👈👈👌👉👌👉👌👉✊👉🤚🤲✌️! ✋👆🙌🤝?? 🤞👏👉👆🖖.
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I think when the situation was so bad and they were. Suffocating from smoke and there was just one way out they could use the windows of cockpit as the captain and co pilot used ,to accelerate the evacuation because there were a lot of people (sorry for my bad english grammar)
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Holding an evacuation exercise and offering money to the first people off shows me how so many people can get hurt in a real emergency.
The stress the pilot is showing recounting this all these years later......
Wowww..
Smithsonian have treated us all with a free episode!
"1985 the deadliest year in aviation history". I believe it. It seemed like every morning just before my parents would drop me off at summer camp, the morning news was reporting some air crash. TWA getting hijacked and Air India blown up in June. Then August with Delta 191 in Dallas, JAL 123, and the Manchester fire. Then later as a 5th grader the Newfoundland crash in December just before Christmas break to bookend it.
You can stick your 4 page checklist right where the sun doesn’t shine.
Step 1 - Passengers Out
Step 2 - Crew Out
Step 3 - Who Cares
How could you leave a little girl on an aircraft? These are the real people of the world. What a courageous stewardess all those people and the little girl was sitting in her seat
It is the voice that keeps me coming back
I can't think of a more horrific and depressing job than investigating a severe airplane fire with many fatalities. The last, agonizing minutes of the victims' lives are tragically written in the remains of the crash.
The investigations are crucial in reducing future accidents. Many thanks to those who conduct these inquiries: you are better men (or women) than I.
I can , been one of the passengers 🤔
I mean, it's an exiciting job too. A particular one. What about a rescuer/first aid responder, not sure about the name, people who are called on accident places and rescue people who will most probably not even survive. There are many really important jobs and I'm sure yours is important too, maybe not in the same way but I bet you are a great person. 😍❤️
I mean, it's an exiciting job too. A particular one. What about a rescuer/first aid responder, not sure about the name, people who are called on accident places and rescue people who will most probably not even survive. There are many really important jobs and I'm sure yours is important too, maybe not in the same way but I bet you are a great person. 😍❤️
@@saralampret9694 Thanks for the reply, sara. You're right, just about any job has some importance and nobility to it, at least if you perform it with diligence and honor.
I was about to say passion, but that's probably a bit much if you're a janitor or a factory worker! (Both jobs I have held briefly but with distinct lack of passion! )
Bottom line, we're all humans, so you have to respect anyone who works hard for his pay, yes?
Sorry, sara, I'm rambling here, so cheers and thanks for the comment. Bye.
PS: You said you bet I am a great person. We-e-ll, I have to say you are spot-on there, I truly am a fine human being: wildly handsome, super-kind, intellectually superior and...darn it, I ran out of adjectives!
Sorry, it's 3 AM and I am spinning. Apologies for rambling.
Well according to the video it was mainly white people who were killed so who cares? This is a picnic!!
I would say the backword brake thrusters is what made it spread to the plane, it was forcing flames backwords
This made me just don't want to go to crowded places. We could literally kill each other by just having too many of us panicking.
Yeah, if that one lady hadn't lost her sh*t and tried to get off the plane, things probably would have gone better. She started a panic in my opinion and probably should have at least been reprimanded. I think if they had forced her to stay in her seat, things would have gone differently.
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The air accident investigators say this shouldn't have happened as the aircraft didn't even make it into the air or run off the runway - but let's face it, there have been buses and trains caught fire with similar fatality numbers. A plane on the ground is just a higher up version of those (and one with far more flammable fuel) with the same bottle neck difficulty when it comes to evacuating passengers in a fire.
What a terrifying experience! 😔✈️
I'm addicted to it and I don't know why
I would like to know what caused the cabin door to jam, it seemed unrelated to the accident and caused a lot of unnecessary deaths.
It does say, Max right at the end; the emergency chute deployed too early and caused the door to jam. Boeing have subsequently redesigned it so that can't happen.
@@johnvonhorn2942 What a shame it wasn't designed properly in the first place! Some design needs to be failsafe.
@@chatteyjpeople aren’t perfect hence designs arent
Yeeeeeeesssssssssssss I need these full length uploads
Look up Mayday Air Disasters
It's the Canadian version of the same show. Only difference really is the narrator.
0:53 I love the hawker siddley
I shouldn't watch these things because I hate flying but I like going on holiday 😂 especially Corfu ❤️😁
Please translate these wonderful docs into Portuguese and subtitle them and make them available here on YT. Brazil no longer has a Smithsonian Channel. I'm orphan of your good docs.
So basically, by bolting out of her seat, this lady started the panic, which is completely contagious. I wonder if she even realizes this?
i think i'd have done the same had i been sat over the wing that was blazing with fire
Even if she did, she isn't to blame. Most people don't think logically in an emergency. Self-preservation is a strong psychological response.
Yup. Also developing better evacuation procedures was one result of this crash IIRC.
its totally situational, you cant blame her. we can all say what we "would have done" but we can never really know until we are in that situation, which hopefully noone ever is again
I doubt it because no one pointed it out. Other things like this flight attendants have gotten aggressive over it. 'Stay seated until we tell you to get up' and this is probably why. People died and as awful as it is, she's partially responsible whether it was an accident, reflex etc.
Oh.
My.
God.
Despte it being 38 years on this year from it. This disaster still haunts us in Manchester. So many died when they could so easily have survived.
an eerie similarity to hillsborough.. which also happened around that time..
just like the Vietnam war
Hillsborough was 4 years later, 1989. The Heysel disaster was 3 months before this disaster though.
@@sexynelson100 more or less. Im actually a born and bred Mancunian so i know just how hard this tragedy hit. It was as bad as the 1967 Stockport Air Disaster which was actually even deadlier.
So sorry Tom
Flight attendants really aren’t paid enough to deal with situations like that.
Lots of accidents happened on august 1985 like JAL 123 and more
No investigator wanted to mention the very narrow alleys and cramped seats.
Funny how the evacuation test passengers are ALL fit, able-bodied adults--unlike EVERY flight in the whole world ever. 🙄
Funny how:
1. The test takes account of that.
2. That’s good crews can evacuate aircraft in real emergencies within the time.
This disaster had profound lasting effects on airline & airport operations, airport fire services and of course aircraft design and maintenance
It’s a surprise that Smithsonian Channel started uploading full modern episodes
Just enjoy the ride 😉
These episodes are not modern lol
Technically they've been around for years. Just the Canadian version though. Only difference is it's called Mayday Air Disasters and the narrator is British.
And also, no need for a VPN.
And no need to stay up very late to watch it on national geographic
Poor passengers! First the plane on fire and then a visit from Margaret Thatcher 😕 Now they're really traumatized!
(Sorry, I couldn't help it🤷🏻♀️ In all seriousness though, I can't imagine what these poor people went through. I'd be hiding under the covers 24/7 for years!)
Despicable! Keep your politics to yourself. Shame on you
Agree. Like some of the other heroes are awarded metals from Puppet presidents too.
china airlines 120 is another example of how these people changed aviation safety so much-the plane exploded after everyone got off after an engine fire
It'd crazy to think if they passed their decision speed, when it happened this could've been so much worse.
Likely not, since the airflow would have kept the fire off the fuel age and they’d have shit it down and come back. It’s very likely it would have been a very minor incident.
@@peteconrad2077 True
MORAL OF THE STUDY- CHECKLIST IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PASSENGERS LIFE
Was wondering - the flight attendant with no mask on goes inside the fuming plane to save more people, yet the firefighters with masks on continued adamantly to spritz the plane
Flying becomes much safer after each accident.
I think it is a good idea if aircrafts are fitted with isolated exhausts that activate when smoke is detected and get's it sucked out of the plane.
They have something similar in the cockpit but it only works in the air because to do that the plane needs to be pressurised and then depressurised. But if the plane is already depressurised before activated it has the opposite effect and spreads the fire faster due to the oxygen introduced.
Abdulrahman - That sounds very reasonable and - more importantly- achievable without major expense. I agree you would need the exhaust adjustments to deploy automatically, you don't want to rely on someone making manual adjustments in the middle of a chaotic emergency.
@@MrBsbotto Sounds good but would it have some unforeseen negative consequence in some situation ?
How stressfull that some boeingplanes have a door opening issue. Too crazy in case of emergency
How often are emergency exits doors checked as we saw a lady struggled with the door
💯 … that’s exactly why I pray and pay attention be alert and vigilant…
That 15mins. Completion of the check list is a damn. It is standard but there's a fire. And why the rear middle of the plane dont have exit door?
I can't remember what channel this was on before, maybe Mayday Air Disasters, but they had this full episode here on TH-cam long ago.
Wait a second, what?
Yeah, I saw all of these in 2014 after the MH370 flight disappeared. Must have been uploaded by somebody else though. I can't find these episodes that were uploaded back then now.
13:35 I love the shot of the fireman with the respirator and fire suit, standing at the bottom of the chute, waving for the flight attendant to get off, as she goes back to rescue the girl!
How many people could HE have saved? I guess he didn't have a ladder!😒
yeah, he could have saved so many people! it's not like he was already controlling a powerful blaze with no quick way up to the plane, right?
oh wait.
and you say this like you yourself wouldn't get off the plane the first chance you got and never look back.
although bucket reversers were cool, they were a lot more dangerous due to debris flying into/onto the wing, possibly getting jammed/stuck and lowering lift, and also causing backfire to effectively be deflected straight into the aircraft body
Most likely the passengers were completely out of hand,,,,panic kills !
Why no episode Made till this day upon PAN AM 73 Flight , story of Neerja Bhanot and IC 814!
it wouldn't make a particularly good episode, seeing as the incident didn't involve a plane crash or similar accident
20:02 is that a final destination scene?
Maybe
No, it’s old footage of the episode of Air Canada Flight 797z
I don't understand how a 3 minute evacuation can take so long and cause death the true meaning of when it's your time is your time
The problem was they were already panicking and climbing over seats before the evacuation was initiated.
Only ONE EXIT initially then later TWO out of FOUR plus Panic.
Interesting - they changed the narrator but not the script. Feels weird hearing the exact same words from a different narrator
Play dueling narrators. Make every other line be said by the other narrator.
@Raised Letter LOL that would be hilarious
It's a first responder and other healthcare professionals first semester of fundamentals teaches that fire is not what ends lives whether alone or in a crowded situation of fire consuming everything and everyone. Smoke inhalation triggers instinctive mechanism that closes and blocks airway as if you had swallowed a towel. Smoke is as toxic as the fue it is burning. So wood or plant material just the smoke can trigger the closing of the airways. THis wasn't just smke but actually gaseous poison inhalants. It acts like acid in gas form that one breath in would begin to melt the delicate sponge-like tissues of lung lobes. I remember when this happened. We were an AirForce Family and all things aircraft was on our radar. That research showing the toxicity of the plastics and foams etc began the overhaul of materials approved for EVRYTHING ie baby loths, kid pj's, mattresses LR furniture even. RIP all the ones lost so abruptly.
Was there a reason why the over wing exits wernt used? Not mensioned in the video or i missed it
Thank you so much
1985 was a bad year, I graduated from high school, we were so woefully unprepared for university, even our class #1 and 2 had a hard time, we didn't have Google, it takes so much less time for the same things
One of the problems was that the aircrat stopped with the burning engine upwind of the aircraft. Didn't help.
4 air disaster in the year 1985
16:14 Air India Flight 182
16:24 Delta Airlines Flight 191
16:36 Japan Airlines Flight 123
16:54 British Airtour Flight 28
It was a genuine pleasure when the narrator said vacation and not holiday. 🎉
"When we get a terrible air crash of this kind" when it never got into the air :D
But can you imagine if he’d turned left and the wind had blown the fire around the front of the plane, where the only two working doors were? They might have lost almost everyone on board.
...the rear doors were inoperative *because* of the fire, so no
What about someone like myself that’s in a wheelchair every time I travel they always put me way in the middle it would’ve been smart put me at the front close to the exit
Because chances are your wheelchair would block the exit and the death toll would be catastrophic as a result
Tha air hostess is a pure angel
next full episode is gonna be good i can feel it
1:45 I too check a flashlight by looking directly into it lol
Kudos to the Pilots 🙌👍
Its sad to know that accidents have to happen for improvements to be made.
External cameras (as are fitted in limited numbers on some aircraft) would have helped the pilot identify what caused the bang.
I watch a lot of these, the time it takes the flight crew to identify damage very often makes situations much worse.
A set of cameras on the under carriage, on the engines, tail and along the hull and roof.
I always think... what about retractable and extendable side view mirrors! Cameras everywhere are a great idea because most of the time, the pilots have no clue what they're dealing with
Sod the Check List!
Ridiculous that the pilots can't see the engines, when small cameras are ubiquitous!
devastating. rest in peace to the 55.
the flight attendant is a hero.
This is why I hate to be crammed in with other people . What could have been a straight line out becomes a free-for-all ... I know they can't help it but damn it all I hate it ....
Me too.....